[SOLVED] Re: Currently on x11vnc, looking for reliable VNC solution?
On 07/09/2022 09:41, piorunz wrote: and the there's anydesk, with conditions just as nomachine. anydesk.com [1] https://www.nomachine.com/ Thanks for your replies guys. These solutions are overkill to my needs, I just need reliable LAN access from one machine to another, as for WAN access I already have ssh tunnel which tunnels all traffic I want if need be. So, I don't think I need external, commercial, not open source solution for my simple remote access. I'd rather fix VNC server I have right now, or switch to different VNC server. Anyone has experience with VNC, or similar LAN protocols, which work? Thanks in advance. Hi all, Just to let you know, I finally settled for commercial software - RealVNC Connect account. Registered to anonymous details, this account allows for up to three VNC servers within one account to be available for free, with optional cloud access as well, protected by password and 2FA. I don't need to resort to SSH tunnel any more, but I still can if I disable cloud access and tunnel a port through SSH instead. And what a difference has it been! It's so much more efficient than x11vnc I was using for last three years, I am very patient, I know haha. Before, I had anywhere from 1 fps to 10 fps on a good day, recently x11vnc was bugging even more and manipulating any window would slow it down from typical 10 fps to 0.5 fps. Restarting, tweaking options, even using all default options would not help, its just not mature enough and has many bugs. This is all on gigabit LAN connection. RealVNC server, for a change, is full 30 or 60 fps, I can't even tell, but watching a video (just for experiment purposes) is possible where previously it was a slideshow mess. I only ever used remote access to my home server, I never knew that nouveau-powered old Nvidia card, Xfce desktop, and the rest of the system, is actually so responsive! Everything is so smooth and well again, like I would sit in the front of it. Aside from cpu microcode, RealVNC Server is the only proprietary package on this machine. Compromise which I decided I had to do to regain control of my Debian server. Thanks for for participating in this thread! -- With kindest regards, Piotr. ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The universal operating system ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://www.debian.org/ ⠈⠳⣄
Re: Currently on x11vnc, looking for reliable VNC solution?
On 9/7/22 10:11 PM, David wrote: > On Thu, 8 Sept 2022 at 11:44, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > > On 9/7/22 7:45 PM, David wrote: > > > On Thu, 8 Sept 2022 at 02:49, Chuck Zmudzinski > > > wrote: > > > > On 9/7/2022 12:13 PM, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > > > > > > > > I use the tigervnc-standalone-server which is in the Debian packages > > > > > archives. I use it only on a trusted LAN network so I don't need an > > > > > encrypted vnc connection either, and I can access it remotely from the > > > > > Internet by connecting to the LAN using a VPN (I use strongswan/IKEv2 > > > > > for the VPN server). The main configuration files are at ~/.vnc, and > > > > > there are tools to configure it such as vncpasswd. The most important > > > > > configuration file is ~/.vnc/xstartup, where you launch your DE or > > > > > window manager of your choice. > > > > > > > > You can launch the server from a terminal logged in as an ordinary > > > > > user > > > > > and the server runs as an ordinary user in the background so after you > > > > > start the server in a terminal you can exit that terminal session. > > > > > > > Actually, you *should* exit that terminal session, especially if it is > > > > a terminal window running in the same kind of session (gnome, lxde, etc) > > > > and as the same user that you plan to run in the VNC server. This is > > > > another limitation of the tigervnc-standalone-server: it does not > > > > connect > > > > to an already running X11 session but instead launches a new session as > > > > an ordinary user as specified in ~/.vnc/xstartup. > > > > > > > I have found that if I try to run two sessions as the same user, one > > > > over > > > > VNC and one on the local desktop, it does not work too well, at least > > > > with the current version of gnome, probably because there is not good > > > > enough separation of the various user processes that gnome starts for > > > > each user session. > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Regarding your final sentence, I wonder if installing dbus-x11 instead of > > > dbus-user-session would improve that situation. > > > > > > Because of what I read in the 'Description' in the output of > > > 'apt show dbus-user-session'. > > > > > > > I have both dbus-user-session and dbus-x11 installed: > > > > chuckz@debian:~$ dpkg-query -l dbus* > > Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold > > | > > Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend > > |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) > > ||/ NameVersion Architecture Description > > +++-===---= > > ii dbus1.12.20-2amd64simple interprocess > > messaging system (daemon and utilities) > > un dbus-bin (no description > > available) > > un dbus-daemon (no description > > available) > > un dbus-session-bus (no description > > available) > > un dbus-session-bus-common (no description > > available) > > un dbus-system-bus (no description > > available) > > un dbus-system-bus-common(no description > > available) > > ii dbus-user-session 1.12.20-2amd64simple interprocess > > messaging system (systemd --user integration) > > ii dbus-x111.12.20-2amd64simple interprocess > > messaging system (X11 deps) > > > > I don't know how systemd handles the case when one user has two gnome > > sessions running at the same time or if it is possible to make it behave > > better in that case. I also don't know if installing dbus-session-bus or > > dbus-system-bus might help. If anyone has any tips to improve the way it > > runs in that case, I could try them out. > > The 'Description' to which I referred you says: > To retain dbus' traditional session semantics, in which login sessions > are artificially isolated from each other, remove this package and install > dbus-x11 instead > > Note: "remove this package". > I just tried my system with the dbus-user-session package removed, and it still does not run two gnome sessions of the same user very well. After removing the dbus-user-session package with the dbus-x11 package still installed, I started the tigervnc server which started a gnome user session, and then when I logged into another gnome session on the local display as the same user, the session on the local display started normally but in the process of starting the session on the local display the tigervnc server died. So I avoid running two gnome sessions as the same user at the same time on the same machine, and I don't think the feature of running two sessions at the same time as the same user on the same machine is a feature that is needed all that much, it is just a curiosity for me. Best regards, Chuck
Re: Currently on x11vnc, looking for reliable VNC solution?
On Thu, 8 Sept 2022 at 11:44, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > On 9/7/22 7:45 PM, David wrote: > > On Thu, 8 Sept 2022 at 02:49, Chuck Zmudzinski > > wrote: > > > On 9/7/2022 12:13 PM, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > > > > > > I use the tigervnc-standalone-server which is in the Debian packages > > > > archives. I use it only on a trusted LAN network so I don't need an > > > > encrypted vnc connection either, and I can access it remotely from the > > > > Internet by connecting to the LAN using a VPN (I use strongswan/IKEv2 > > > > for the VPN server). The main configuration files are at ~/.vnc, and > > > > there are tools to configure it such as vncpasswd. The most important > > > > configuration file is ~/.vnc/xstartup, where you launch your DE or > > > > window manager of your choice. > > > > > > You can launch the server from a terminal logged in as an ordinary user > > > > and the server runs as an ordinary user in the background so after you > > > > start the server in a terminal you can exit that terminal session. > > > > > Actually, you *should* exit that terminal session, especially if it is > > > a terminal window running in the same kind of session (gnome, lxde, etc) > > > and as the same user that you plan to run in the VNC server. This is > > > another limitation of the tigervnc-standalone-server: it does not connect > > > to an already running X11 session but instead launches a new session as > > > an ordinary user as specified in ~/.vnc/xstartup. > > > > > I have found that if I try to run two sessions as the same user, one over > > > VNC and one on the local desktop, it does not work too well, at least > > > with the current version of gnome, probably because there is not good > > > enough separation of the various user processes that gnome starts for > > > each user session. > > > > Hi, > > > > Regarding your final sentence, I wonder if installing dbus-x11 instead of > > dbus-user-session would improve that situation. > > > > Because of what I read in the 'Description' in the output of > > 'apt show dbus-user-session'. > > > > I have both dbus-user-session and dbus-x11 installed: > > chuckz@debian:~$ dpkg-query -l dbus* > Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold > | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend > |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) > ||/ NameVersion Architecture Description > +++-===---= > ii dbus1.12.20-2amd64simple interprocess > messaging system (daemon and utilities) > un dbus-bin (no description > available) > un dbus-daemon (no description > available) > un dbus-session-bus (no description > available) > un dbus-session-bus-common (no description > available) > un dbus-system-bus (no description > available) > un dbus-system-bus-common(no description > available) > ii dbus-user-session 1.12.20-2amd64simple interprocess > messaging system (systemd --user integration) > ii dbus-x111.12.20-2amd64simple interprocess > messaging system (X11 deps) > > I don't know how systemd handles the case when one user has two gnome > sessions running at the same time or if it is possible to make it behave > better in that case. I also don't know if installing dbus-session-bus or > dbus-system-bus might help. If anyone has any tips to improve the way it runs > in that case, I could try them out. The 'Description' to which I referred you says: To retain dbus' traditional session semantics, in which login sessions are artificially isolated from each other, remove this package and install dbus-x11 instead Note: "remove this package".
Re: Currently on x11vnc, looking for reliable VNC solution?
On 9/7/22 7:45 PM, David wrote: > On Thu, 8 Sept 2022 at 02:49, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > > On 9/7/2022 12:13 PM, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > > > > I use the tigervnc-standalone-server which is in the Debian packages > > > archives. I use it only on a trusted LAN network so I don't need an > > > encrypted vnc connection either, and I can access it remotely from the > > > Internet by connecting to the LAN using a VPN (I use strongswan/IKEv2 > > > for the VPN server). The main configuration files are at ~/.vnc, and > > > there are tools to configure it such as vncpasswd. The most important > > > configuration file is ~/.vnc/xstartup, where you launch your DE or > > > window manager of your choice. > > > > You can launch the server from a terminal logged in as an ordinary user > > > and the server runs as an ordinary user in the background so after you > > > start the server in a terminal you can exit that terminal session. > > > Actually, you *should* exit that terminal session, especially if it is > > a terminal window running in the same kind of session (gnome, lxde, etc) > > and as the same user that you plan to run in the VNC server. This is > > another limitation of the tigervnc-standalone-server: it does not connect > > to an already running X11 session but instead launches a new session as > > an ordinary user as specified in ~/.vnc/xstartup. > > > I have found that if I try to run two sessions as the same user, one over > > VNC and one on the local desktop, it does not work too well, at least > > with the current version of gnome, probably because there is not good > > enough separation of the various user processes that gnome starts for > > each user session. > > Hi, > > Regarding your final sentence, I wonder if installing dbus-x11 instead of > dbus-user-session would improve that situation. > > Because of what I read in the 'Description' in the output of > 'apt show dbus-user-session'. > I have both dbus-user-session and dbus-x11 installed: chuckz@debian:~$ dpkg-query -l dbus* Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ Name Version Architecture Description +++-===---= ii dbus 1.12.20-2 amd64 simple interprocess messaging system (daemon and utilities) un dbus-bin (no description available) un dbus-daemon (no description available) un dbus-session-bus (no description available) un dbus-session-bus-common (no description available) un dbus-system-bus (no description available) un dbus-system-bus-common (no description available) ii dbus-user-session 1.12.20-2 amd64 simple interprocess messaging system (systemd --user integration) ii dbus-x11 1.12.20-2 amd64 simple interprocess messaging system (X11 deps) I don't know how systemd handles the case when one user has two gnome sessions running at the same time or if it is possible to make it behave better in that case. I also don't know if installing dbus-session-bus or dbus-system-bus might help. If anyone has any tips to improve the way it runs in that case, I could try them out. Best regards, Chuck
Re: Currently on x11vnc, looking for reliable VNC solution?
On Thu, 8 Sept 2022 at 02:49, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > On 9/7/2022 12:13 PM, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > > I use the tigervnc-standalone-server which is in the Debian packages > > archives. I use it only on a trusted LAN network so I don't need an > > encrypted vnc connection either, and I can access it remotely from the > > Internet by connecting to the LAN using a VPN (I use strongswan/IKEv2 > > for the VPN server). The main configuration files are at ~/.vnc, and > > there are tools to configure it such as vncpasswd. The most important > > configuration file is ~/.vnc/xstartup, where you launch your DE or > > window manager of your choice. > > You can launch the server from a terminal logged in as an ordinary user > > and the server runs as an ordinary user in the background so after you > > start the server in a terminal you can exit that terminal session. > Actually, you *should* exit that terminal session, especially if it is > a terminal window running in the same kind of session (gnome, lxde, etc) > and as the same user that you plan to run in the VNC server. This is > another limitation of the tigervnc-standalone-server: it does not connect > to an already running X11 session but instead launches a new session as > an ordinary user as specified in ~/.vnc/xstartup. > I have found that if I try to run two sessions as the same user, one over > VNC and one on the local desktop, it does not work too well, at least > with the current version of gnome, probably because there is not good > enough separation of the various user processes that gnome starts for > each user session. Hi, Regarding your final sentence, I wonder if installing dbus-x11 instead of dbus-user-session would improve that situation. Because of what I read in the 'Description' in the output of 'apt show dbus-user-session'.
Re: Currently on x11vnc, looking for reliable VNC solution?
On 9/7/2022 12:13 PM, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > On 9/7/2022 4:41 AM, piorunz wrote: > > On 07/09/2022 05:58, notoneofmyseeds wrote: > > > On 07.09.22 06:19, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > > > > > >>> > > >> I've switched to NoMachine [1] a long time ago. > > >> It has all features I need, which are multi-platform and cross-OS > > >> support, public key authentication, reliable file transfer between > > >> hosts, and completely free no strings attached license for personal use. > > > > > > and the there's anydesk, with conditions just as nomachine. > > > > > > anydesk.com > > > > > >> > > >> > > >> [1] https://www.nomachine.com/ > > > > Thanks for your replies guys. These solutions are overkill to my needs, > > I just need reliable LAN access from one machine to another, as for WAN > > access I already have ssh tunnel which tunnels all traffic I want if > > need be. So, I don't think I need external, commercial, not open source > > solution for my simple remote access. I'd rather fix VNC server I have > > right now, or switch to different VNC server. Anyone has experience with > > VNC, or similar LAN protocols, which work? Thanks in advance. > > > > -- > > With kindest regards, Piotr. > > > > ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ > > ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The universal operating system > > ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://www.debian.org/ > > ⠈⠳⣄ > > > > I use the tigervnc-standalone-server which is in the Debian packages > archives. I use it only on a trusted LAN network so I don't need an encrypted > vnc connection either, and I can access it remotely from the Internet by > connecting to the LAN using a VPN (I use strongswan/IKEv2 for the VPN > server). The main configuration files are at ~/.vnc, and there are tools to > configure it such as vncpasswd. The most important configuration file is > ~/.vnc/xstartup, where you launch your DE or window manager of your choice. > > You can launch the server from a terminal logged in as an ordinary user and > the server runs as an ordinary user in the background so after you start the > server in a terminal you can exit that terminal session. Actually, you *should* exit that terminal session, especially if it is a terminal window running in the same kind of session (gnome, lxde, etc) and as the same user that you plan to run in the VNC server. This is another limitation of the tigervnc-standalone-server: it does not connect to an already running X11 session but instead launches a new session as an ordinary user as specified in ~/.vnc/xstartup. I have found that if I try to run two sessions as the same user, one over VNC and one on the local desktop, it does not work too well, at least with the current version of gnome, probably because there is not good enough separation of the various user processes that gnome starts for each user session. So when I use the tigervnc standalone VNC session, I log out of the session on the local desktop for the user that is running the VNC server, and if I am going to use the local desktop session as the same user that is using the VNC server, I kill the VNC server first, so there will not be two gnome sessions running as the same user. > With the vnc port (usually 5901) open in the firewall, you can connect to the > server and start your apps, and once you have apps running, it will keep them > running in the session until you kill the server. I use it with gnome-session > with Xorg (I tried wayland session a while back and Xorg seemed more stable), > and it works adequately for my needs on stable, testing, and sid. It works > with both VNC viewers I have tried: RealVNC on Windows, and tigervnc-viewer > on Debian. > > There is one slight annoyance that I live with: With the gnome-session > desktop, there are some apps and settings that will require me to enter my > password when I first use that setting or app, such as setting up a color > profile, using the keyring, and starting the Brave browser. This could > probably be fixed with appropriate commands in the ~/.vnc/xstartup file, but > I have not tried debugging it and I just enter the password when asked by the > gnome desktop and after the first time for each app or setting it won't ask > again until I kill the server and restart it. > > Best regards, > > Chuck >
Re: Currently on x11vnc, looking for reliable VNC solution?
On 9/7/2022 4:41 AM, piorunz wrote: > On 07/09/2022 05:58, notoneofmyseeds wrote: > > On 07.09.22 06:19, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > > > >>> > >> I've switched to NoMachine [1] a long time ago. > >> It has all features I need, which are multi-platform and cross-OS > >> support, public key authentication, reliable file transfer between > >> hosts, and completely free no strings attached license for personal use. > > > > and the there's anydesk, with conditions just as nomachine. > > > > anydesk.com > > > >> > >> > >> [1] https://www.nomachine.com/ > > Thanks for your replies guys. These solutions are overkill to my needs, > I just need reliable LAN access from one machine to another, as for WAN > access I already have ssh tunnel which tunnels all traffic I want if > need be. So, I don't think I need external, commercial, not open source > solution for my simple remote access. I'd rather fix VNC server I have > right now, or switch to different VNC server. Anyone has experience with > VNC, or similar LAN protocols, which work? Thanks in advance. > > -- > With kindest regards, Piotr. > > ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ > ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The universal operating system > ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://www.debian.org/ > ⠈⠳⣄ > I use the tigervnc-standalone-server which is in the Debian packages archives. I use it only on a trusted LAN network so I don't need an encrypted vnc connection either, and I can access it remotely from the Internet by connecting to the LAN using a VPN (I use strongswan/IKEv2 for the VPN server). The main configuration files are at ~/.vnc, and there are tools to configure it such as vncpasswd. The most important configuration file is ~/.vnc/xstartup, where you launch your DE or window manager of your choice. You can launch the server from a terminal logged in as an ordinary user and the server runs as an ordinary user in the background so after you start the server in a terminal you can exit that terminal session. With the vnc port (usually 5901) open in the firewall, you can connect to the server and start your apps, and once you have apps running, it will keep them running in the session until you kill the server. I use it with gnome-session with Xorg (I tried wayland session a while back and Xorg seemed more stable), and it works adequately for my needs on stable, testing, and sid. It works with both VNC viewers I have tried: RealVNC on Windows, and tigervnc-viewer on Debian. There is one slight annoyance that I live with: With the gnome-session desktop, there are some apps and settings that will require me to enter my password when I first use that setting or app, such as setting up a color profile, using the keyring, and starting the Brave browser. This could probably be fixed with appropriate commands in the ~/.vnc/xstartup file, but I have not tried debugging it and I just enter the password when asked by the gnome desktop and after the first time for each app or setting it won't ask again until I kill the server and restart it. Best regards, Chuck
Re: Currently on x11vnc, looking for reliable VNC solution?
On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 5:24 PM Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > > >>> [1] https://www.nomachine.com/ > > > > Thanks for your replies guys. These solutions are overkill to my needs, > > I just need reliable LAN access from one machine to another, > NoMachine does exactly that. > It seems to be very nice and easy (user friendly). The only downside is that it does not seem to be open source. Dashamir
Re: Currently on x11vnc, looking for reliable VNC solution?
On 07.09.2022 13:41, piorunz wrote: On 07/09/2022 05:58, notoneofmyseeds wrote: On 07.09.22 06:19, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: I've switched to NoMachine [1] a long time ago. It has all features I need, which are multi-platform and cross-OS support, public key authentication, reliable file transfer between hosts, and completely free no strings attached license for personal use. and the there's anydesk, with conditions just as nomachine. anydesk.com [1] https://www.nomachine.com/ Thanks for your replies guys. These solutions are overkill to my needs, I just need reliable LAN access from one machine to another, NoMachine does exactly that. as for WAN access I already have ssh tunnel which tunnels all traffic I want if need be. So, I don't think I need external, commercial, not open source solution for my simple remote access. NoMachine is not external service like anydesk or teamviewer. Doesn't nag you about license or anything. It is a completely self-hosted solution and doesn't require Internet access to work. You setup your own SSH keys and\or passwords, ports, settings, etc. For me at home NoMachine provides a physical-like-access experience to all my Linux and Windows hosts and IMO was a major step forward from slow, ancient and insecure VNC. I'd rather fix VNC server I have right now, or switch to different VNC server. Anyone has experience with VNC, or similar LAN protocols, which work? Thanks in advance. I was in search for a VNC replacement once too. Good luck. -- With kindest regards, Alexander. ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The universal operating system ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://www.debian.org ⠈⠳⣄
Re: Currently on x11vnc, looking for reliable VNC solution?
On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 10:41 AM piorunz wrote: > > Thanks for your replies guys. These solutions are overkill to my needs, > I just need reliable LAN access from one machine to another, as for WAN > access I already have ssh tunnel which tunnels all traffic I want if > need be. So, I don't think I need external, commercial, not open source > solution for my simple remote access. I'd rather fix VNC server I have > right now, or switch to different VNC server. Anyone has experience with > VNC, or similar LAN protocols, which work? Thanks in advance. > I remember trying TigerVNC, which seems to have a better performance compared to x11vnc: http://dashohoxha.fs.al/remote-desktop-access-with-vnc-and-sshtunnels/ Xpra may also be very good, but I have never tried it in a scenario like that: https://github.com/Xpra-org/xpra/issues/1009 xrdp might also work, but seems to be a bit tricky: https://github.com/neutrinolabs/xrdp/issues/960 x2go may also be a very good solution, as already mentioned. Regards, Dashamir
Re: Currently on x11vnc, looking for reliable VNC solution?
ср, 7 сент. 2022 г. в 13:41, piorunz : > > anydesk.com > >> [1] https://www.nomachine.com/ > > Thanks for your replies guys. These solutions are overkill to my needs, > I just need reliable LAN access from one machine to another, as for WAN > access I already have ssh tunnel which tunnels all traffic I want if > need be. So, I don't think I need external, commercial, not open source > solution for my simple remote access. I'd rather fix VNC server I have > right now, or switch to different VNC server. Anyone has experience with > VNC, or similar LAN protocols, which work? Thanks in advance. You can try x2go as opensource child of nomachine, if DE in compatibility list (https://wiki.x2go.org/doku.php/doc:de-compat) Work over ssh, can and do screen compression, forward sound (was try only in browser), printers (from local to remote) and partially clipboard (may be not partially, my instance outdated). May use LAN with excellent image quality and edge modem with very low bandwidth with low fps and jpeg aliases on image. I'm use it on remote desktop server, so have no info on connecting to normal session, but theirs wiki contain page https://wiki.x2go.org/doku.php/doc:usage:desktop-sharing Some colleagues use SPICE protocol, but i have no experience with it. -- Stanislav
Re: Currently on x11vnc, looking for reliable VNC solution?
On 07/09/2022 05:58, notoneofmyseeds wrote: On 07.09.22 06:19, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: I've switched to NoMachine [1] a long time ago. It has all features I need, which are multi-platform and cross-OS support, public key authentication, reliable file transfer between hosts, and completely free no strings attached license for personal use. and the there's anydesk, with conditions just as nomachine. anydesk.com [1] https://www.nomachine.com/ Thanks for your replies guys. These solutions are overkill to my needs, I just need reliable LAN access from one machine to another, as for WAN access I already have ssh tunnel which tunnels all traffic I want if need be. So, I don't think I need external, commercial, not open source solution for my simple remote access. I'd rather fix VNC server I have right now, or switch to different VNC server. Anyone has experience with VNC, or similar LAN protocols, which work? Thanks in advance. -- With kindest regards, Piotr. ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The universal operating system ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://www.debian.org/ ⠈⠳⣄
Re: Currently on x11vnc, looking for reliable VNC solution?
On 07.09.22 06:19, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: I've switched to NoMachine [1] a long time ago. It has all features I need, which are multi-platform and cross-OS support, public key authentication, reliable file transfer between hosts, and completely free no strings attached license for personal use. and the there's anydesk, with conditions just as nomachine. anydesk.com [1] https://www.nomachine.com/
Re: Currently on x11vnc, looking for reliable VNC solution?
On 07.09.2022 01:49, piorunz wrote: Hi all, ... Any suggestions welcome! I've switched to NoMachine [1] a long time ago. It has all features I need, which are multi-platform and cross-OS support, public key authentication, reliable file transfer between hosts, and completely free no strings attached license for personal use. [1] https://www.nomachine.com/ -- With kindest regards, Alexander. ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The universal operating system ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://www.debian.org ⠈⠳⣄
Re: Currently on x11vnc, looking for reliable VNC solution?
I thought of one more thing: This could be remote client causing this. I almost exclusively use KRDC client to log into this VNC server, so maybe something is there which cause this. But I am willing to change a VNC server rather than debug a client - simply because a server should never crash. -- With kindest regards, Piotr. ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The universal operating system ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://www.debian.org/ ⠈⠳⣄
Currently on x11vnc, looking for reliable VNC solution?
Hi all, For years, out of inertia, I have been using x11vnc in a screen session to provide remote desktop access to my local home server. So simply speaking I see my logged in X session, with my desktop and running programs, and I can manage it remotely from another machine. my x11vnc in screen is as follows: x11vnc -rfbauth ~/.vnc/passwd -shared -forever -loop -noipv6 -repeat -timeout 60 -ncache_cr -noxfixes -find This works all year round, but for last couple of months (or more?) its randomly dropping the connection and I have to start over. This is some bug in x11vnc, because otherwise server's reliability is excellent, and all other services are working very well. When it drops, screen session says: caught XIO error: 06/09/2022 21:31:50 deleted 60 tile_row polling images. And it just starts over because is has -repeat option. It happens every few minutes, very frequently when I am typing, and almost not at all when I am doing nothing apart from having remote session fired up. I'd like to finally fix it (anyone knows what's wrong?), or replace x11vnc with something else. Preferably some systemd service. And I want full desktop access to my machine, I know that some other remote clients are logging me in as a new user or something, with empty desktop, that's not what I want. Specs: Clean Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) x86_64 with x11vnc package installed. Xorg and LXQt as desktop environment, on NVIDIA GeForce GT 710 on nouveau driver. Everything is stable apart from this issue. Any suggestions welcome! -- With kindest regards, Piotr. ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The universal operating system ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://www.debian.org/ ⠈⠳⣄
