new fortune file: pep-talk
If you're looking for something interesting for cowsay to say or have an affinity for the motivational quotes provided on wrappers of Halls cough drops, I put together a fortune quote-file this morning here: https://github.com/garysweaver/pep-talk Had a bad cold this week and was going through a bunch of old cough drops from the pantry and they seemed like they would make good fortunes. The wrappers look like this, if you've not seen them: https://www.google.com/search?q=a+pep+talk+in+every+drop&biw=1440&bih=771&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAjgKahUKEwiFpaeI5vHHAhUMoIAKHeWAAWQ Let's hear your battle cry, Gary
Re: fortune not working
s. keeling wrote: Peter Daum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: # dpkg -l fortune*|grep ii ii fortune-mod1.99.1-3.1 provides fortune cookies on demand ii fortunes 1.99.1-3.1 Data files containing fortune cookies ii fortunes-min 1.99.1-3.1 Data files containing fortune cookies (0) phreaque /home/keeling_ pkgs fortune | egrep '^i' i fortune-mod - provides fortune cookies on demand i fortunes- Data files containing fortune cookies i fortunes-min- Data files containing fortune cookies fwiw, also etch. I can only guess charset clash (ASCII/utf-8), and it knows not to bother opening anything as it knows it can't translate? Guess. I normally use ISO8859-1, but the locale setting doesn't make a difference. The installed data files only use ASCII anyway. Actually, I really can't see much potential for something as simple as "fortune" to go wrong ;-) I just tried an ages old fortune program that I still had around, which (after adjusting the path of the data files with a symlink) works fine with the Debian data files ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fortune not working
Peter Daum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > # dpkg -l fortune*|grep ii > ii fortune-mod1.99.1-3.1 provides fortune cookies on demand > ii fortunes 1.99.1-3.1 Data files containing fortune cookies > ii fortunes-min 1.99.1-3.1 Data files containing fortune cookies (0) phreaque /home/keeling_ pkgs fortune | egrep '^i' i fortune-mod - provides fortune cookies on demand i fortunes- Data files containing fortune cookies i fortunes-min- Data files containing fortune cookies fwiw, also etch. I can only guess charset clash (ASCII/utf-8), and it knows not to bother opening anything as it knows it can't translate? Guess. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fortune not working
Peter Daum wrote: Mark Allums wrote: Peter Daum wrote: certainly not the most critical problem, but at least on my system (mainly Etch, I also tried the fortune package from Lenny) doesn't work. when I trace it, I can see that it reads a bunch of fortue data files but that is obviously just for its own pleasure - it just silently exits w/o any error. Any ideas? Peter I bet it is producing output *somewhere*, the question is *where*. That would be pretty amazing, because it isn't even trying to - as already said, when it strace what it does, I can see it opening and reading a whole bunch of date files, but it does not issue a single "write" syscall. There also should be al necessary packages installed (unless there is something essential missing in the dependencies): # dpkg -l fortune*|grep ii ii fortune-mod1.99.1-3.1 provides fortune cookies on demand ii fortunes 1.99.1-3.1 Data files containing fortune cookies ii fortunes-min 1.99.1-3.1 Data files containing fortune cookies Ahh, I should read more closely. My bad. Mark Allums -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fortune not working
Mark Allums wrote: Peter Daum wrote: certainly not the most critical problem, but at least on my system (mainly Etch, I also tried the fortune package from Lenny) doesn't work. when I trace it, I can see that it reads a bunch of fortue data files but that is obviously just for its own pleasure - it just silently exits w/o any error. Any ideas? Peter I bet it is producing output *somewhere*, the question is *where*. That would be pretty amazing, because it isn't even trying to - as already said, when it strace what it does, I can see it opening and reading a whole bunch of date files, but it does not issue a single "write" syscall. There also should be al necessary packages installed (unless there is something essential missing in the dependencies): # dpkg -l fortune*|grep ii ii fortune-mod1.99.1-3.1 provides fortune cookies on demand ii fortunes 1.99.1-3.1 Data files containing fortune cookies ii fortunes-min 1.99.1-3.1 Data files containing fortune cookies -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fortune not working
Peter Daum wrote: certainly not the most critical problem, but at least on my system (mainly Etch, I also tried the fortune package from Lenny) doesn't work. when I trace it, I can see that it reads a bunch of fortue data files but that is obviously just for its own pleasure - it just silently exits w/o any error. Any ideas? Peter Sorry, sent that last post before I was ready. Try redirecting the output to a file and the check the file. Maybe the problem is that the output is not going where you think it should. Mark Allums -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fortune not working
Peter Daum wrote: certainly not the most critical problem, but at least on my system (mainly Etch, I also tried the fortune package from Lenny) doesn't work. when I trace it, I can see that it reads a bunch of fortue data files but that is obviously just for its own pleasure - it just silently exits w/o any error. Any ideas? Peter I bet it is producing output *somewhere*, the question is *where*. Mark Allums -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fortune not working
Peter Daum wrote: > certainly not the most critical problem, but at least on my system > (mainly Etch, > I also tried the fortune package from Lenny) doesn't work. when I trace > it, I > can see that it reads a bunch of fortue data files but that is obviously > just > for its own pleasure - it just silently exits w/o any error. > > Any ideas? > Peter > > What fortunes-* package are installed? -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
fortune not working
certainly not the most critical problem, but at least on my system (mainly Etch, I also tried the fortune package from Lenny) doesn't work. when I trace it, I can see that it reads a bunch of fortue data files but that is obviously just for its own pleasure - it just silently exits w/o any error. Any ideas? Peter -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] How to add fortune output to terminal
Martin Schulze wrote: > Please always Cc to me when replying to me on the lists. > ... > Another way to do this is: > > if [ -n "$PS1" -a "$TERM" != "dumb" ]; then > # aliases and the like for interactive use > else > # non-intreactive > fi > > TERM=dumb is set by dumb terminal emulations such as M-x shell in Emacs, > in case you wonder. Colour definitions should be outside. Hmm... Almost. If it is an alias that I want for interactive use then I would want it in an emacs interactive shell too. Which means that I wouldn't want to key off of TERM=dumb in that case since it wouldn't be there in that interactive session. I just put anything that I always want loaded above the PS1 test line (shown as defaulted in /etc/skel/.bashrc): # always loaded [ -z "$PS1" ] && return # conditionally loaded And most of the time I am not really worried about if I have a version (old upstream or new patched) of bash which reads the file or not. Most of the time I won't notice. If I do notice then I will already know what is going on and deal with it on the fly. (shrug) Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] How to add fortune output to terminal
Bob Proulx wrote: > s. keeling wrote: > > Another common practice is to set PS1 in .bash_profile, then call > > .bashrc from .bash_profile. > > if [ ! -z "$PS1" ]; then > > The PS1 is set by default for interactive shells and not set for > non-interactive shells. So the test for $PS1 works without needing to > set it. This is in the default Debian /etc/skel/.bashrc too. > > > The intent being to not clutter up the environment any more than is > > necessary. > > Note: Some versions of bash read the .bashrc when it determines that > it is started over a remote shell. By splitting the .bashrc into an > interactive and non-interactive section then aliases can be loaded > over a remote shell and made available to the command while not > breaking things for a non-interactive environment. Not that I would > advocate doing that. The feature was removed from the bash upstream > due to various problems. Debian Etch has patches specifically for > this situation. See /usr/share/doc/bash/README.Debian.gz . Another way to do this is: if [ -n "$PS1" -a "$TERM" != "dumb" ]; then # aliases and the like for interactive use else # non-intreactive fi TERM=dumb is set by dumb terminal emulations such as M-x shell in Emacs, in case you wonder. Colour definitions should be outside. Regards, Joey -- Let's call it an accidental feature. -- Larry Wall Please always Cc to me when replying to me on the lists. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] How to add fortune output to terminal
Bob Proulx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > s. keeling wrote: > > Another common practice is to set PS1 in .bash_profile, then call > > .bashrc from .bash_profile. > > if [ ! -z "$PS1" ]; then > > The PS1 is set by default for interactive shells and not set for > non-interactive shells. So the test for $PS1 works without needing to > set it. This is in the default Debian /etc/skel/.bashrc too. Thanks, didn't know that. I've always clobbered PS1 first, not caring what it was set to. I guess I should instead test to see if it's set to what I set it to. > > The intent being to not clutter up the environment any more than is > > necessary. > > Note: Some versions of bash read the .bashrc when it determines that > it is started over a remote shell. By splitting the .bashrc into an > interactive and non-interactive section then aliases can be loaded > over a remote shell and made available to the command while not > breaking things for a non-interactive environment. Not that I would > advocate doing that. The feature was removed from the bash upstream > due to various problems. Debian Etch has patches specifically for > this situation. See /usr/share/doc/bash/README.Debian.gz . I distinctly remember this behaviour, and its subsequent disappearance. Thanks for explaining that. I wondered why it had disappeared. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] How to add fortune output to terminal
s. keeling wrote: > Another common practice is to set PS1 in .bash_profile, then call > .bashrc from .bash_profile. > if [ ! -z "$PS1" ]; then The PS1 is set by default for interactive shells and not set for non-interactive shells. So the test for $PS1 works without needing to set it. This is in the default Debian /etc/skel/.bashrc too. > The intent being to not clutter up the environment any more than is > necessary. Note: Some versions of bash read the .bashrc when it determines that it is started over a remote shell. By splitting the .bashrc into an interactive and non-interactive section then aliases can be loaded over a remote shell and made available to the command while not breaking things for a non-interactive environment. Not that I would advocate doing that. The feature was removed from the bash upstream due to various problems. Debian Etch has patches specifically for this situation. See /usr/share/doc/bash/README.Debian.gz . Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [OT] How to add fortune output to terminal
NN_il_Confusionario <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 02:08:02AM +0200, s. keeling wrote: > > .bash_profile is for setting up global env vars. .bashrc is for doing > > things for interactive ("login") sessions. > > this is completely different from what I understand by reading man bash > (section FILES, and also search for "INVOCATION" in all the man page). I've been fighting this stuff for so long, I'm convinced the manpage author never understood it. zsh seems to get it, but that's another level of complexity ... > A common pratice is to source .bashrc from .bash_profile , but it is not > a necessity so each one should check such files in $HOME Another common practice is to set PS1 in .bash_profile, then call .bashrc from .bash_profile. Then, in .bashrc you'll see: # Hopefully, /etc/profile didn't do this (also). If so, # .bash_profile should unset PS1 first. # if [ ! -z "$PS1" ]; then # interactive shell startup stuff. fi The intent being to not clutter up the environment any more than is necessary. Nowadays, this is pretty irrelevant stuff, until something gets confused and breaks. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] How to add fortune output to terminal
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 02:08:02AM +0200, s. keeling wrote: > .bash_profile is for setting up global env vars. .bashrc is for doing > things for interactive ("login") sessions. this is completely different from what I understand by reading man bash (section FILES, and also search for "INVOCATION" in all the man page). A common pratice is to source .bashrc from .bash_profile , but it is not a necessity so each one should check such files in $HOME -- Chi usa software non libero avvelena anche te. Digli di smettere. Informatica=arsenico: minime dosi in rari casi patologici, altrimenti letale. Informatica=bomba: intelligente solo per gli stupidi che ci credono. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] How to add fortune output to terminal
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 8:08 PM, s. keeling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Vikki Roemer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > In my experience, I've never had fortune break scp, but maybe I've > > just been lucky. > > > > But, if it does cause problems, just remove it and add it to > > .bash_profile instead. > > .bash_profile is for setting up global env vars. .bashrc is for doing > things for interactive ("login") sessions. Batch jobs are not login > sessions. xterm -ls is a login shell (runs your startup scripts). Oh, ok. I had them confused. Sorry. > Cf. "su" vs. "su -". The former gives user root privs with user's > env. The latter runs root's startup scripts and clobbers the > user's process environment (in that child proc). Ah. I always wondered what the difference was. (I always use 'su', my classmates use 'su -') -- Vikki Roemer Registered Linux user #280021 "Sometimes the lights all shinin' on me; Other times I can barely see. Lately it occurs to me what a long, strange trip its been." -- Grateful Dead, "Truckin'" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] How to add fortune output to terminal
Vikki Roemer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 2:27 AM, Bob Proulx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Angus Auld wrote: > > > Would someone be able to advise me as to what is a > > > safe method to add a fortune command to my .bashrc > > > file so as to have fortune output in my terminal @ > > > login? > > > I've googled this pretty extensively, and have found a > > > few methods, but also warnings that certain processes > > > can be broken by doing this. > > > > Your .bashrc should be completely silent. If it produces any output > > then it will break 'scp' and 'rsync' at the least. Probably other > > tools that use a remote shell such as cvs, git, etc. > > > > http://www.openssh.org/faq.html#2.9 > > In my experience, I've never had fortune break scp, but maybe I've > just been lucky. > > But, if it does cause problems, just remove it and add it to > .bash_profile instead. .bash_profile is for setting up global env vars. .bashrc is for doing things for interactive ("login") sessions. Batch jobs are not login sessions. xterm -ls is a login shell (runs your startup scripts). Cf. "su" vs. "su -". The former gives user root privs with user's env. The latter runs root's startup scripts and clobbers the user's process environment (in that child proc). -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] How to add fortune output to terminal
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 2:27 AM, Bob Proulx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Angus Auld wrote: > > Would someone be able to advise me as to what is a > > safe method to add a fortune command to my .bashrc > > file so as to have fortune output in my terminal @ > > login? > > I've googled this pretty extensively, and have found a > > few methods, but also warnings that certain processes > > can be broken by doing this. > > Your .bashrc should be completely silent. If it produces any output > then it will break 'scp' and 'rsync' at the least. Probably other > tools that use a remote shell such as cvs, git, etc. > > http://www.openssh.org/faq.html#2.9 In my experience, I've never had fortune break scp, but maybe I've just been lucky. But, if it does cause problems, just remove it and add it to .bash_profile instead. -- Vikki Roemer Registered Linux user #280021 "Sometimes the lights all shinin' on me; Other times I can barely see. Lately it occurs to me what a long, strange trip its been." -- Grateful Dead, "Truckin'" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] How to add fortune output to terminal
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 12:27:15AM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > Angus Auld wrote: > > Would someone be able to advise me as to what is a > > safe method to add a fortune command to my .bashrc > > file so as to have fortune output in my terminal @ > > login? > > I've googled this pretty extensively, and have found a > > few methods, but also warnings that certain processes > > can be broken by doing this. > > Your .bashrc should be completely silent. If it produces any output > then it will break 'scp' and 'rsync' at the least. Probably other > tools that use a remote shell such as cvs, git, etc. > > http://www.openssh.org/faq.html#2.9 "[...] for non-interactive sessions." [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ tail -7 .bashrc echo echo "Fortune cookie:" echo fortune -a echo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ssh localhost /bin/true [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [OT] How to add fortune output to terminal
Angus Auld wrote: > Would someone be able to advise me as to what is a > safe method to add a fortune command to my .bashrc > file so as to have fortune output in my terminal @ > login? > I've googled this pretty extensively, and have found a > few methods, but also warnings that certain processes > can be broken by doing this. Your .bashrc should be completely silent. If it produces any output then it will break 'scp' and 'rsync' at the least. Probably other tools that use a remote shell such as cvs, git, etc. http://www.openssh.org/faq.html#2.9 Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [OT] How to add fortune output to terminal
> > > And for real technicolor stuff, hunt for the kernelnewbies fortunes > file; selected quotes from lkml: > > - > "I want you guys to look at your computer screen, imagining the worst > monster you can (the cacodeamon from Quake will do, just make him > hairier > and bigger and more MEAN), and think of me. Think of me like I am when I > see a patch which isn't a pure bug-fix. > > If you're whimpering just _thinking_ about sending me a new feature, > you're in the right mindframe. Keep that mindframe." > > - Linus Torvalds > - > > What a freaking tyrant! :-O How the heck did > $any_feature_you_care_to_name survive development?!? This from the > guy who was once wondering why his newborn might need a tcp/ip stack? Hey, Tyrant maybe, but I can see his point. I'm sure he'd have been more aminable to you sending in two patches, one for the bugfix and another for a feature. That way he can apply the bugfix and then, if he feels like it, look at the feature. It's similar to the bad form of refactoring and changing functionality in the same patch. cheers, Owen. [just kidding, L.] > > -- > Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. > (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 > - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: [OT] How to add fortune output to terminal
Owen Townend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >An extract from my .bashrc > > if [ -x /usr/games/fortune ]; then >echo; /usr/games/fortune -a; echo > fi > >Also, IIRC, the default 'fortunes-mod' package includes only a single data > file which has no 'offensive' fortunes, so unless you add more (e.g. > fortunes-off) the '-a' is unnecessary. And for real technicolor stuff, hunt for the kernelnewbies fortunes file; selected quotes from lkml: - "I want you guys to look at your computer screen, imagining the worst monster you can (the cacodeamon from Quake will do, just make him hairier and bigger and more MEAN), and think of me. Think of me like I am when I see a patch which isn't a pure bug-fix. If you're whimpering just _thinking_ about sending me a new feature, you're in the right mindframe. Keep that mindframe." - Linus Torvalds - What a freaking tyrant! :-O How the heck did $any_feature_you_care_to_name survive development?!? This from the guy who was once wondering why his newborn might need a tcp/ip stack? [just kidding, L.] -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] How to add fortune output to terminal
> > > > Greetings, > > Would someone be able to advise me as to what is a > > safe method to add a fortune command to my .bashrc > > file so as to have fortune output in my terminal @ > > login? > > I've googled this pretty extensively, and have found > > a > > few methods, but also warnings that certain > > processes > > can be broken by doing this. > > Any insights would be appreciated. > > TIA. Best regards. > > Hey, An extract from my .bashrc if [ -x /usr/games/fortune ]; then echo; /usr/games/fortune -a; echo fi Also, IIRC, the default 'fortunes-mod' package includes only a single data file which has no 'offensive' fortunes, so unless you add more (e.g. fortunes-off) the '-a' is unnecessary. cheers, Owen.
Re: [OT] How to add fortune output to terminal
--- Angus Auld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Greetings, > Would someone be able to advise me as to what is a > safe method to add a fortune command to my .bashrc > file so as to have fortune output in my terminal @ > login? > I've googled this pretty extensively, and have found > a > few methods, but also warnings that certain > processes > can be broken by doing this. > Any insights would be appreciated. > TIA. Best regards. > > -- > AA Thank you for the replies...much appreciated indeed. Best regards. -- AA __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] How to add fortune output to terminal
On Fri April 11 2008, Angus Auld wrote: > Would someone be able to advise me as to what is a > safe method to add a fortune command to my .bashrc > file so as to have fortune output in my terminal @ > login? add these lines to your ~/.bashrc echo echo "fortune" echo fortune -a echo -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 Registered Ubuntu User #12459 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] How to add fortune output to terminal
Greetings, Would someone be able to advise me as to what is a safe method to add a fortune command to my .bashrc file so as to have fortune output in my terminal @ login? I've googled this pretty extensively, and have found a few methods, but also warnings that certain processes can be broken by doing this. Any insights would be appreciated. TIA. Best regards. -- AA __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting fortune to run when opening a terminal
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 11:17:21AM -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > andy wrote: >> Hi all >> >> Under Slackware, whenever I would open up konsole (a terminal app), so a >> fortune would be displayed before the typical Bash prompt. >> >> Is there a way of setting it up under Debian so that it can do the same >> thing? > > Just put a call to the fortune program in ~/.bash_profile . .bash_profile is run only on login shells. Use .bashrc is you want it for *every* console: ,[ from my .bashrc ] | echo | echo "Fortune cookie:" | echo | fortune -a | echo ` Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Getting fortune to run when opening a terminal
Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: andy wrote: Hi all Under Slackware, whenever I would open up konsole (a terminal app), so a fortune would be displayed before the typical Bash prompt. Is there a way of setting it up under Debian so that it can do the same thing? Just put a call to the fortune program in ~/.bash_profile . Thanks. Fixed with: # call fortune: if [ -x /usr/games/fortune ] ; then echo ; /usr/games/fortune ; echo fi A -- "If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about the answers." - Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting fortune to run when opening a terminal
andy wrote: Hi all Under Slackware, whenever I would open up konsole (a terminal app), so a fortune would be displayed before the typical Bash prompt. Is there a way of setting it up under Debian so that it can do the same thing? Just put a call to the fortune program in ~/.bash_profile . -- There is nothing wrong with abstinence, in moderation. Eduardo M KALINOWSKI [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://move.to/hpkb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Getting fortune to run when opening a terminal
Hi all Under Slackware, whenever I would open up konsole (a terminal app), so a fortune would be displayed before the typical Bash prompt. Is there a way of setting it up under Debian so that it can do the same thing? TIA Andy -- "If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about the answers." - Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fortune file!
Jude DaShiell writes: > Linux has its problems with packet sniffers certainly; I've got the logs > to prove it. Would you please explain what you mean by this? -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fortune file!
Linux has its problems with packet sniffers certainly; I've got the logs to prove it. I don't know that there's any solution to this problem either. You can reinstall the hacked software but without additional protection of the system the dhcp software just gets hacked again as soon as the original hacker notices what has happened. Seems to be Japanese hackers over here having their fun that's because doing a search for debian and sit0 on google only turned up a japanese page that was very poorly translated by google with this search string in it. On Sun, 23 Apr 2006, Paul Johnson wrote: On Saturday 22 April 2006 21:09, Michael M. wrote: The typical Aunt Matilda Windows User is someone who hears "virus" and opens a can of chicken soup. How do I submit this to the fortune file? Aunt Matilda is only vaguely aware of what an operating system is, and has no idea that any alternatives exist. Give Aunt Matilda some credit. Odds are if she watches Star Trek or pays any attention to the evening news, she knows it from Captain Sisco out of uniform pitching servers for IBM or from newsmodels talking about it on TV (ever since Linus moved to Beaverton, Linux makes the local news on a infrequent but regular basis, so my viewpoint may be skewed on this). Were that not the case, I have yet to be convinced that Linux OS's would be more protected from being p'wned than Windows OS's. Windows: I lost count for this year alone. Damn you Internet Explorer and your susceptibility to spyware at any speed... Linux in the last decade: Once, running bo. Thank you bind4. Lesson learned: Never sponsor a high school security competition at a technical magnet academy. Apt came out shortly later and solved the update problem, as did listening to the advice of the classmate that found the hole and knew the fix. I thought it was a little excessive for him to have dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda on finals week, but fortunately I had a backup, so other than having to pull a really painful double-all-nighter to get everything reinstalled, patched, user data restored from backup and finals projects finished. -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP & Google Talk): [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: Because it's time to move forward http://ursine.ca/Ursine:Jabber -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 17:54:14 -0700 Marc Shapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I, also, live in Aloha, only about 3 miles from the 'center of the > universe'. I frequently pass within site of OSDL when I am out > shopping. I wonder how many of us on this list are in the immediate local? Not me. Sunnyvale, CA. OTOH, my Father (who passed away in 2004) lived in Aloha, and I've been up that way a few times, so I kind of know the area. Still friends with the lady who roomed with my Father as well. Plus I got some cool pics of Haystack Rock (cannon beach, of course) ;) My immediate former managers where I werk were from Hillsboro, too. > Marc Shapiro -- David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Michael M. wrote: Beaverton: http://www.bluegroup.org/ (link is dead, at least for me, but I'm pretty sure the group is still active) This site didn't work before, but it is, now. - Marc Shapiro No boom today. Boom tomorrow. There's always a boom tomorrow. What?! Look, somebody's got to have some damn perspective around here. Boom. Sooner or later ... boom! - Susan Ivanova: B5 - Grail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Tue, Apr 25, 2006 at 03:17:52PM -0700, Michael M. wrote: > Kevin Mark wrote: > >On Mon, Apr 24, 2006 at 07:19:02PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > >>On Monday 24 April 2006 17:54, Marc Shapiro wrote: > >> > >> > >>>I, also, live in Aloha, only about 3 miles from the 'center of the > >>>universe'. I frequently pass within site of OSDL when I am out > >>>shopping. I wonder how many of us on this list are in the immediate > >>>local? > >>> > >>I don't know. It would be interesting to get a Portland-area Debianista > >>meet-up and key-signing party. > >> > > > >Hi Paul and others in OR, > >This link[0] is list of local debian meeting groups. I'm on the one for > >NYC. > >Cheers, > >Kev > > > >[0] http://wiki.debian.org/LocalGroups > > > I had joined the mailing list for the NYC group while I was still living > there, but then I moved back to Portland before I made it to any of the > get-togethers. I was under the impression that B.M. Hill, who I thought > started the group, had moved back to Boston, but he is still listed as > the contact for the NYC group. Hi Michael, Yes he is in list mom. Mako is in Boston but passes though on ocassion as do various and sundry debian folks who may stop over because of airport issues or car routes. All can join regardless. Cheers, Kev -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal | debian.home.pipeline.com | | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keysever: pgp.mit.edu | my NPO: cfsg.org | signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Fortune file!
Kevin Mark wrote: On Mon, Apr 24, 2006 at 07:19:02PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: On Monday 24 April 2006 17:54, Marc Shapiro wrote: I, also, live in Aloha, only about 3 miles from the 'center of the universe'. I frequently pass within site of OSDL when I am out shopping. I wonder how many of us on this list are in the immediate local? I don't know. It would be interesting to get a Portland-area Debianista meet-up and key-signing party. Hi Paul and others in OR, This link[0] is list of local debian meeting groups. I'm on the one for NYC. Cheers, Kev [0] http://wiki.debian.org/LocalGroups I had joined the mailing list for the NYC group while I was still living there, but then I moved back to Portland before I made it to any of the get-togethers. I was under the impression that B.M. Hill, who I thought started the group, had moved back to Boston, but he is still listed as the contact for the NYC group. -- Michael M. ++ Portland, OR ++ USA "No live organism can continue for long to exist sanely under conditions of absolute reality; even larks and katydids are supposed, by some, to dream." --S. Jackson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fortune file!
Paul Johnson wrote: On Monday 24 April 2006 17:54, Marc Shapiro wrote: I, also, live in Aloha, only about 3 miles from the 'center of the universe'. I frequently pass within site of OSDL when I am out shopping. I wonder how many of us on this list are in the immediate local? I don't know. It would be interesting to get a Portland-area Debianista meet-up and key-signing party. Don't know about Debianistas specifically, but there are a couple of LUGs in the area: Portland: http://www.pdxlinux.org/ http://www.pdxlug.org/ Beaverton: http://www.bluegroup.org/ (link is dead, at least for me, but I'm pretty sure the group is still active) And more elsewhere in Oregon (Eugene, Tillamook, Willamette Valley, etc.) and southern Washington. (Never mind those subversives in the Seattle area trying to undermine Microsoft on its home turf.) If we do get a meet-up going, please not in Aloha, that's too close to Beaverton, and I'm still not over the fact Beaverton Police gave me a speeding ticket on Allen Blvd by Beaverton Christian Church the same day they refused to investigate someone getting shot to death a few hours later on the same spot behind my house they cited me for going 31 in a 30 on a bicycle. They're also too spineless to stop the drug dealing in front of Beaverton High School when classes let out (they'll watch it happen in plain sight right in front of them in their siezed-from-a-drug-dealer DARE car and do nothing). Beaverton's not safe and there is no (useful) police in that city (and I used to live at MLK and Killingsworth Street in Portland!); I feel Linus may have moved there for the same reason he moved to California: Didn't realize it's not the part of the [country|state] you ever want to live for any income or length of time before he got there. And yet, according to today's Oregonian, Beaverton has the fastest-growing school district in the state, while enrollment in Portland's public schools continues to decline. -- Michael M. ++ Portland, OR ++ USA "No live organism can continue for long to exist sanely under conditions of absolute reality; even larks and katydids are supposed, by some, to dream." --S. Jackson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fortune file!
On Mon, Apr 24, 2006 at 07:19:02PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Monday 24 April 2006 17:54, Marc Shapiro wrote: > > > I, also, live in Aloha, only about 3 miles from the 'center of the > > universe'. I frequently pass within site of OSDL when I am out > > shopping. I wonder how many of us on this list are in the immediate local? > > I don't know. It would be interesting to get a Portland-area Debianista > meet-up and key-signing party. Hi Paul and others in OR, This link[0] is list of local debian meeting groups. I'm on the one for NYC. Cheers, Kev [0] http://wiki.debian.org/LocalGroups -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal | debian.home.pipeline.com | | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keysever: pgp.mit.edu | my NPO: cfsg.org | signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Fortune file!
On Monday 24 April 2006 17:54, Marc Shapiro wrote: > I, also, live in Aloha, only about 3 miles from the 'center of the > universe'. I frequently pass within site of OSDL when I am out > shopping. I wonder how many of us on this list are in the immediate local? I don't know. It would be interesting to get a Portland-area Debianista meet-up and key-signing party. If we do get a meet-up going, please not in Aloha, that's too close to Beaverton, and I'm still not over the fact Beaverton Police gave me a speeding ticket on Allen Blvd by Beaverton Christian Church the same day they refused to investigate someone getting shot to death a few hours later on the same spot behind my house they cited me for going 31 in a 30 on a bicycle. They're also too spineless to stop the drug dealing in front of Beaverton High School when classes let out (they'll watch it happen in plain sight right in front of them in their siezed-from-a-drug-dealer DARE car and do nothing). Beaverton's not safe and there is no (useful) police in that city (and I used to live at MLK and Killingsworth Street in Portland!); I feel Linus may have moved there for the same reason he moved to California: Didn't realize it's not the part of the [country|state] you ever want to live for any income or length of time before he got there. -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP & Google Talk): [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: Because it's time to move forward http://ursine.ca/Ursine:Jabber pgpDivFmvi8KK.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Fortune file!
On 4/24/06, Marc Shapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I, also, live in Aloha, only about 3 miles from the 'center of the > universe'. I frequently pass within site of OSDL when I am out > shopping. I wonder how many of us on this list are in the immediate local? > > -- > Marc Shapiro I feel the need to reply, although I am not exactly in the "immediate local". I live in Philomath, which is a fair distance (~90 mi) from OSDL, but I'm mere minutes from the OSU Open Source Lab ( http://osuosl.org/ ). Re: average users - Some of my family members know what Linux is, a couple of them would recognize it only as some "computer thing" I had mentioned before, and one uses it, but might be hard pressed to explain exactly what an OS is. I doubt anyone in my father's family has heard of Linux. My brother on the other hand has used it at school and may set up a Linux file server soon. (Gamer + in school learning .NET with VS means he is not likely to switch his desktop.) Cheers, Kelly
Re: Fortune file!
On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 20:34:05 -0500 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2006-04-24 at 18:21 -0700, Raquel Rice wrote: > > On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 17:54:14 -0700 > > Marc Shapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Michael M. wrote: > > > > [snip] > > > > I grew up in Hillsboro several years ago. I'm going back for > > our (mumble-mumble)-year high school reunion in August. I also > > have a son and a granddaughter who live in Hillsboro. > > That would make it your... 10 year reunion. Right? > > -- > - > Ron Johnson, Jr. U ... yeah! Right! ;-) -- Raquel If you think you're too small to make a difference, you've obviously never been in bed with a mosquito. --Michelle Walker -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Mon, 2006-04-24 at 18:21 -0700, Raquel Rice wrote: > On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 17:54:14 -0700 > Marc Shapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Michael M. wrote: > > [snip] > > I grew up in Hillsboro several years ago. I'm going back for our > (mumble-mumble)-year high school reunion in August. I also have a > son and a granddaughter who live in Hillsboro. That would make it your... 10 year reunion. Right? -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "If you disregard people's motives, it becomes much harder to foresee their actions." George Orwell -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 17:54:14 -0700 Marc Shapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael M. wrote: > > > > > Well, my mom asked me what a "blog" was a few months ago because > > she heard some newsmodels talking about blogs on TV. So I > > guess these things can filter down eventually. But she lived > > in Hillsboro, one town west of Beaverton, and I daresay she had > > not heard of Linux. My cousin, a Machead from way back, lives > > in Aloha (kind of wedged in between Hillsboro and Beaverton), > > and I don't think she's any more than vaguely aware of Linux. > > I'll have to ask her. I'm in Portland, on the other side of > > the center of the Linux universe from Hillsboro, so I guess you > > could say my family revolves around Linux, geographically > > speaking, like the planets around the sun (except that we don't > > actually change positions). I think I'm the only one who knows > > what it is, let alone uses it. > > > > Now Nike and Intel, on the other hand ... everyone here knows > > them! > > > I, also, live in Aloha, only about 3 miles from the 'center of the > > universe'. I frequently pass within site of OSDL when I am out > shopping. I wonder how many of us on this list are in the > immediate local? > > -- > Marc Shapiro > I grew up in Hillsboro several years ago. I'm going back for our (mumble-mumble)-year high school reunion in August. I also have a son and a granddaughter who live in Hillsboro. -- Raquel If you think you're too small to make a difference, you've obviously never been in bed with a mosquito. --Michelle Walker -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fortune file!
Michael M. wrote: Well, my mom asked me what a "blog" was a few months ago because she heard some newsmodels talking about blogs on TV. So I guess these things can filter down eventually. But she lived in Hillsboro, one town west of Beaverton, and I daresay she had not heard of Linux. My cousin, a Machead from way back, lives in Aloha (kind of wedged in between Hillsboro and Beaverton), and I don't think she's any more than vaguely aware of Linux. I'll have to ask her. I'm in Portland, on the other side of the center of the Linux universe from Hillsboro, so I guess you could say my family revolves around Linux, geographically speaking, like the planets around the sun (except that we don't actually change positions). I think I'm the only one who knows what it is, let alone uses it. Now Nike and Intel, on the other hand ... everyone here knows them! I, also, live in Aloha, only about 3 miles from the 'center of the universe'. I frequently pass within site of OSDL when I am out shopping. I wonder how many of us on this list are in the immediate local? -- Marc Shapiro No boom today. Boom tomorrow. There's always a boom tomorrow. What?! Look, somebody's got to have some damn perspective around here. Boom. Sooner or later ... boom! - Susan Ivanova: B5 - Grail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Monday 24 April 2006 15:42, Michael M. wrote: > Now Nike and Intel, on the other hand ... everyone here knows them! Now if both companies were forced to hire people locally instead of hiring people from out of state or on H1B's, we would be getting somewhere... -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP & Google Talk): [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: Because it's time to move forward http://ursine.ca/Ursine:Jabber pgp39VRmEGgyp.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Fortune file!
Paul Johnson wrote: On Saturday 22 April 2006 21:09, Michael M. wrote: Aunt Matilda is only vaguely aware of what an operating system is, and has no idea that any alternatives exist. Give Aunt Matilda some credit. Odds are if she watches Star Trek or pays any attention to the evening news, she knows it from Captain Sisco out of uniform pitching servers for IBM or from newsmodels talking about it on TV (ever since Linus moved to Beaverton, Linux makes the local news on a infrequent but regular basis, so my viewpoint may be skewed on this). Well, my mom asked me what a "blog" was a few months ago because she heard some newsmodels talking about blogs on TV. So I guess these things can filter down eventually. But she lived in Hillsboro, one town west of Beaverton, and I daresay she had not heard of Linux. My cousin, a Machead from way back, lives in Aloha (kind of wedged in between Hillsboro and Beaverton), and I don't think she's any more than vaguely aware of Linux. I'll have to ask her. I'm in Portland, on the other side of the center of the Linux universe from Hillsboro, so I guess you could say my family revolves around Linux, geographically speaking, like the planets around the sun (except that we don't actually change positions). I think I'm the only one who knows what it is, let alone uses it. Now Nike and Intel, on the other hand ... everyone here knows them! -- Michael M. ++ Portland, OR ++ USA "No live organism can continue for long to exist sanely under conditions of absolute reality; even larks and katydids are supposed, by some, to dream." --S. Jackson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Saturday 22 April 2006 21:09, Michael M. wrote: > The typical Aunt Matilda Windows User is someone who hears > "virus" and opens a can of chicken soup. How do I submit this to the fortune file? > Aunt Matilda is only vaguely aware of what an operating system is, and has > no idea that any alternatives exist. Give Aunt Matilda some credit. Odds are if she watches Star Trek or pays any attention to the evening news, she knows it from Captain Sisco out of uniform pitching servers for IBM or from newsmodels talking about it on TV (ever since Linus moved to Beaverton, Linux makes the local news on a infrequent but regular basis, so my viewpoint may be skewed on this). > Were that not the case, I have yet to be convinced that Linux OS's would be > more protected from being p'wned than Windows OS's. Windows: I lost count for this year alone. Damn you Internet Explorer and your susceptibility to spyware at any speed... Linux in the last decade: Once, running bo. Thank you bind4. Lesson learned: Never sponsor a high school security competition at a technical magnet academy. Apt came out shortly later and solved the update problem, as did listening to the advice of the classmate that found the hole and knew the fix. I thought it was a little excessive for him to have dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda on finals week, but fortunately I had a backup, so other than having to pull a really painful double-all-nighter to get everything reinstalled, patched, user data restored from backup and finals projects finished. -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP & Google Talk): [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: Because it's time to move forward http://ursine.ca/Ursine:Jabber pgpxniDmfmFlY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: fortune bug ?
Le mardi 31 mai 2005 à 23:38 -0400, Kevin Mark a écrit : > On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 08:15:52PM +0200, Aurélien Campéas wrote: > > Le mardi 31 mai 2005 à 16:09 +0200, Aurélien Campéas a écrit : > > [...] > > > a lot of crap here, but look at the last stat64 syscalls near the end : > > > it looks like a bug related to localisation (fortune tries to open a > > > file named "fr_FR.UTF ..." instead of a real file). Indeed for this > > > system I had the funny idea to ask for encoding of all files in UTF-8 > > > instead of iso-latin-1 as I usually do. > > > > > > So, am I the only one out there that uses UTF8-something as default > > encoding for filenames ? > > > > Aurélien. > > > > Hi, > maybe run the command prefixed with LANG= or LANGUAGE= or LC_ALL= > LC_ALL=en_US fortune > Indeed. Then, fortune tries to do that : stat64("/usr/local/share/games/fortunes/en_US", 0xbfffdb9c) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied) In fact, in a sarge box where fortune works, this also (almost) happens ... in facts fortune tries a lot of silly filenames before opening the right ones. Go figure. That's not important. fortune fails when trying to open a non-existant file with an EACCES return code (the working version does not get EACCES returns, only ENOENTs). However I checked the permissions and they are *apparently* the same (from /usr/share/games to .../fortunes). Even lsattr shows nothing. How can that be ??? Aurélien. ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.clearswift.com **
Re: fortune bug ?
On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 08:15:52PM +0200, Aurélien Campéas wrote: > Le mardi 31 mai 2005 à 16:09 +0200, Aurélien Campéas a écrit : > [...] > > a lot of crap here, but look at the last stat64 syscalls near the end : > > it looks like a bug related to localisation (fortune tries to open a > > file named "fr_FR.UTF ..." instead of a real file). Indeed for this > > system I had the funny idea to ask for encoding of all files in UTF-8 > > instead of iso-latin-1 as I usually do. > > > So, am I the only one out there that uses UTF8-something as default > encoding for filenames ? > > Aurélien. > Hi, maybe run the command prefixed with LANG= or LANGUAGE= or LC_ALL= LC_ALL=en_US fortune cheers, Kev -- counter.li.org #238656 -- goto counter.li.org and be counted! `$' $' $ $ _ ,d$$$g$ ,d$$$b. $,d$$$b`$' g$b $,d$$b ,$P' `$ ,$P' `Y$ $$' `$ $ "' `$ $$' `$ $$ $ $$g$ $ $ $ ,$P"" $ $$ `$g. ,$$ `$$._ _. $ _,g$P $ `$b. ,$$ $$ `Y$$P'$. `YP $$$P"' ,$. `Y$$P'$ $. ,$. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: fortune bug ?
Le mardi 31 mai 2005 à 16:09 +0200, Aurélien Campéas a écrit : [...] > a lot of crap here, but look at the last stat64 syscalls near the end : > it looks like a bug related to localisation (fortune tries to open a > file named "fr_FR.UTF ..." instead of a real file). Indeed for this > system I had the funny idea to ask for encoding of all files in UTF-8 > instead of iso-latin-1 as I usually do. So, am I the only one out there that uses UTF8-something as default encoding for filenames ? Aurélien. ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.clearswift.com **
Re: fortune bug ?
Le mardi 31 mai 2005 à 14:52 +0100, Lee Braiden a écrit : > On Tuesday 31 May 2005 14:41, Aurélien Campéas wrote: > > if (stat(file, &staat) == 0) > > default: > > perror("fortune: bad juju in is_existant"); > > exit(1); > > Do someone knows a tool to expose the call graph of a C program ? > > The easiest way might be to run it through strace (strace 2>log fortune), > find > (near the end of the log) where it writes that error message, then look for > the first stat() call before that in the same log. Hopefully it'll show what > it's trying to access. > good idea ! execve("/usr/games/fortune", ["fortune"], [/* 28 vars */]) = 0 uname({sys="Linux", node="eve", ...}) = 0 brk(0) = 0x805 old_mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xb7fe9000 access("/etc/ld.so.nohwcap", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/etc/ld.so.preload", O_RDONLY)= -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/etc/ld.so.cache", O_RDONLY) = 3 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=59815, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(NULL, 59815, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0xb7fda000 close(3)= 0 access("/etc/ld.so.nohwcap", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/usr/lib/librecode.so.0", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0p/\3\000"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=1279588, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(NULL, 1279048, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0xb7ea1000 old_mmap(0xb7fac000, 188416, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 0x10b000) = 0xb7fac000 close(3)= 0 access("/etc/ld.so.nohwcap", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/lib/tls/libc.so.6", O_RDONLY)= 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0`Z\1\000"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=1254468, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xb7ea old_mmap(NULL, 1264780, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0xb7d6b000 old_mmap(0xb7e95000, 36864, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 0x129000) = 0xb7e95000 old_mmap(0xb7e9e000, 7308, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xb7e9e000 close(3)= 0 set_thread_area({entry_number:-1 -> 6, base_addr:0xb7ea0800, limit:1048575, seg_32bit:1, contents:0, read_exec_only:0, limit_in_pages:1, seg_not_present:0, useable:1}) = 0 munmap(0xb7fda000, 59815) = 0 stat64("[EMAIL PROTECTED]", 0xbfffcc5c) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("[EMAIL PROTECTED]", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) brk(0) = 0x805 brk(0x8071000) = 0x8071000 brk(0) = 0x8071000 stat64("/usr/local/share/games/fortunes/[EMAIL PROTECTED]", 0xbfffc7ac) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied) dup(2) = 3 fcntl64(3, F_GETFL) = 0x2 (flags O_RDWR) fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFCHR|0620, st_rdev=makedev(136, 2), ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xb7fe8000 _llseek(3, 0, 0xbfffc6a8, SEEK_CUR) = -1 ESPIPE (Illegal seek) write(3, "fortune: bad juju in is_existant"..., 52fortune: bad juju in is_existant: Permission denied ) = 52 close(3)= 0 munmap(0xb7fe8000, 4096)= 0 exit_group(1) = ? a lot of crap here, but look at the last stat64 syscalls near the end : it looks like a bug related to localisation (fortune tries to open a file named "fr_FR.UTF ..." instead of a real file). Indeed for this system I had the funny idea to ask for encoding of all files in UTF-8 instead of iso-latin-1 as I usually do. ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.clearswift.com **
Re: fortune bug ?
On Tuesday 31 May 2005 14:41, Aurélien Campéas wrote: > if (stat(file, &staat) == 0) > default: > perror("fortune: bad juju in is_existant"); > exit(1); > Do someone knows a tool to expose the call graph of a C program ? The easiest way might be to run it through strace (strace 2>log fortune), find (near the end of the log) where it writes that error message, then look for the first stat() call before that in the same log. Hopefully it'll show what it's trying to access. -- Lee. Please do not CC replies directly to me. I'll read them on the list.
Re: fortune bug ?
Le mardi 31 mai 2005 à 19:54 +0700, Dave Patterson a écrit : > > > > I consider fortune to be the most important unix app ever written > > So do I (well, at least one of the most). Let us know what you did to fix it. > The crappy string is in fortune.c (stupid programmers !!) : /* * is_existant: * Return TRUE if the file exists, FALSE otherwise. */ int is_existant(char *file) { struct stat staat; if (stat(file, &staat) == 0) return TRUE; switch(errno) { case ENOENT: case ENOTDIR: return FALSE; default: perror("fortune: bad juju in is_existant"); exit(1); } } It is only called from add_file which add files ... I guess to the list of fortune files ... The whole source is an abomination btw :-/ Do someone knows a tool to expose the call graph of a C program ? Thanks, Aurélien. ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.clearswift.com **
Re: fortune bug ?
> > I consider fortune to be the most important unix app ever written So do I (well, at least one of the most). Let us know what you did to fix it. -- Regards, Dave try again signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: fortune bug ?
Le mardi 31 mai 2005 à 11:59 +0100, Lee Braiden a écrit : > On Tuesday 31 May 2005 11:50, Aurélien Campéas wrote: > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ fortune > > > > fortune: bad juju in is_existant: Permission denied > > It's a real error. > > > > It is not corrected even by purging/reinstalling the package. > > Ahh. Are you in the games group? If not, that's probably why. > > If so, check the permissions of fortune's data files (dpkg -L fortunes-data, > or something like that should help). If installing an older fortunes-data > file from debian's pool helps, the current package probably installs files > with incorrect permissions. > > Can't think of much else, sorry. I wasn't in the games group, but even if I put myself in (and, *yes* logging again) it remains unworking. I'll check the permissions later, when I have more time on my hands ... I consider fortune to be the most important unix app ever written but fortunately I can do my boring work without it. Aurélien. ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.clearswift.com **
Re: fortune bug ?
On Tuesday 31 May 2005 11:50, Aurélien Campéas wrote: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ fortune > > > fortune: bad juju in is_existant: Permission denied > It's a real error. > > It is not corrected even by purging/reinstalling the package. Ahh. Are you in the games group? If not, that's probably why. If so, check the permissions of fortune's data files (dpkg -L fortunes-data, or something like that should help). If installing an older fortunes-data file from debian's pool helps, the current package probably installs files with incorrect permissions. Can't think of much else, sorry. -- Lee. Please do not CC replies directly to me. I'll read them on the list.
Re: fortune bug ?
Le mardi 31 mai 2005 à 10:46 +0100, Lee Braiden a écrit : > On Tuesday 31 May 2005 10:42, Aurélien Campéas wrote: > > I realize that since a few days, fortune does not work any more. Like > > this: > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ fortune > > fortune: bad juju in is_existant: Permission denied > > Are you getting that continuously, every time you run it? Because fortune > does throw out "funny" error messages sometimes... It's a real error. It is not corrected even by purging/reinstalling the package. Aurélien. ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.clearswift.com **
Re: fortune bug ?
On 5/31/05, Lee Braiden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 31 May 2005 10:42, Aurélien Campéas wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ fortune > > fortune: bad juju in is_existant: Permission denied > > Are you getting that continuously, every time you run it? Because fortune > does throw out "funny" error messages sometimes... I think this is an actual error, fortune prints these fakes: $ fortune -m fortune: (computers) % fortune: cannot execute. Out of cookies. % fortune: cpu time/usefulness ratio too high -- core dumped. % fortune: No such file or directory % fortune: not found % My little brother got this fortune: nohup rm -fr /& So he did... % (definitions) % 3rd Law of Computing: Anything that can go wr fortune: Segmentation violation -- Core dumped % And there are no matches for the term 'juju'. Maybe try re-installing the various fortune packages, maybe one of the files has become corrupted.
Re: fortune bug ?
On Tuesday 31 May 2005 10:42, Aurélien Campéas wrote: > I realize that since a few days, fortune does not work any more. Like > this: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ fortune > fortune: bad juju in is_existant: Permission denied Are you getting that continuously, every time you run it? Because fortune does throw out "funny" error messages sometimes... -- Lee. Please do not CC replies directly to me. I'll read them on the list.
fortune bug ?
Dear list, I realize that since a few days, fortune does not work any more. Like this : [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ fortune fortune: bad juju in is_existant: Permission denied I am the only one affected ? Thanks. ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.clearswift.com ** -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
fortune database
Hi, I created a new database containing 12259 german epigrams/adages (Deutsche Sprichwoerter). It is based on the collection of Karl Simmrock " Die deutschen Sprichwoerter". Because I do not know where to put it else so you can get the tar archieve from: http://www.oliverfuchs.onlinehome.de/alterna1/simmrock.tar.gz Thanx Oliver -- ... don't touch the bang bang fruit -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Correction to installation errors of "fortune"
* Pascal Hakim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [040526 10:37]: > I'm the maintainer of fortune. The package with the binary is known as > fortune-mod. My hero! I get a fortune on every new terminal I'm opening ;) > Fortune has indeed been in /usr/games/ for ages for as long as I can > remember too. It sounds like it's a problem with the path not being the > same when you're logged in as root. Yes, /usr/games is not in the default PATH of root. And I don't know, why it should. Yours sincerely, Alexander signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Correction to installation errors of "fortune"
On Tue, May 25, 2004 at 05:45:16PM +0200, Alexander Schmehl wrote: > * Bob Tilley (AT&T) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [040525 14:17]: > > > It was now located "whereis fortune" at "/usr/games/fortune". > > "/usr/games" was added to my PATH system-variable by "PATH= > > $PATH:/usr/games" and normal functioning of fortune resumed. > > > > I've have been unable to learn the current maintainer > > of the fortune package to inform them of this problem. > > You can get the maintainer of the package by running "apt-cache show > $package", if you don't know, to which (installed) package a file > belongs run "dpkg -S /path/file". I'm the maintainer of fortune. The package with the binary is known as fortune-mod. > However: As far as I know, fortune has been in /usr/games as long as the > package exists, and /usr/games was in PATH-Variable for normal users as > long as I remember. Are you sure it isn't a knoppix related problem? Fortune has indeed been in /usr/games/ for ages for as long as I can remember too. It sounds like it's a problem with the path not being the same when you're logged in as root. Cheers, Pasc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Correction to installation errors of "fortune"
* Bob Tilley (AT&T) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [040525 14:17]: > It was now located "whereis fortune" at "/usr/games/fortune". > "/usr/games" was added to my PATH system-variable by "PATH= > $PATH:/usr/games" and normal functioning of fortune resumed. > > I've have been unable to learn the current maintainer > of the fortune package to inform them of this problem. You can get the maintainer of the package by running "apt-cache show $package", if you don't know, to which (installed) package a file belongs run "dpkg -S /path/file". However: As far as I know, fortune has been in /usr/games as long as the package exists, and /usr/games was in PATH-Variable for normal users as long as I remember. Are you sure it isn't a knoppix related problem? Yours sincerely, Alexander signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Correction to installation errors of "fortune"
On my Knoppix/Debian unstable system and using aptitude for installation, "fortune" functioned normally when installing only the basic packages. After installation of fortune-off, fortune-mod, and other collections of fortunes, fortune became unknown ("Unrecognized command: fortune"). Aptitude reported fortune as installed so I deduced that the location of the command had changed. It was now located "whereis fortune" at "/usr/games/fortune". "/usr/games" was added to my PATH system-variable by "PATH= $PATH:/usr/games" and normal functioning of fortune resumed. I've have been unable to learn the current maintainer of the fortune package to inform them of this problem. -- The content of the message is a reflection only of the writer and not of AT&T or Tybrin. Robert Tilley 321-785-2010 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fortune and KMail
On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 20:29:02 +0200, Mark Annandale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi Guys > > Could someone explain to me how to add 'fortune' onto the end of my > signature file. My signature is obtained from 'output of command > cat > sig', however adding && fortune to the end of cat sig produces and > error - > > Failed to execute signature script > cat sig && fortune: > Unknown error 127 > > But, if I just use 'cat sig' the output is correct. > > If I type 'fortune' in a terminal I receive correct output so I assume > fortune is installed correctly. > > I hope I have explained myself here. > > Regards > > Mark A ..try: # !/bin/sh /usr/games/fortune >.signature -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fortune and KMail
Hi Guys Could someone explain to me how to add 'fortune' onto the end of my signature file. My signature is obtained from 'output of command > cat sig', however adding && fortune to the end of cat sig produces and error - Failed to execute signature script cat sig && fortune: Unknown error 127 But, if I just use 'cat sig' the output is correct. If I type 'fortune' in a terminal I receive correct output so I assume fortune is installed correctly. I hope I have explained myself here. Regards Mark A -- Mark Annandale Debian Linux - KDE 3.1.3 - KMail 1.5.3 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bad fortune
On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 06:39:54PM -0500, David Turetsky wrote: > [/usr/games/fortune now works as expected] dpkg -L is a nice trick. also, try -S 'filename' if you want to know what package owns a particular file. > I looked before and did not see this directory. Neither did locate > fortune turn up any entries that's because locate is run once a day from cron, and probably hadn't been updated yet. something else you can do with programs in particular is $ which programname (if it's in your path), and alternatively $ whereis programname (which searches a few more places as well) sean msg30644/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Bad fortune
I don't know if this will help but fortune installs to /usr/games/fortune with apt-get. My only other thought is that you might do a updatedb before you try and locate fortune...but that is a long shot. Hope that helped On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 09:51, David Turetsky wrote: > I ran apt-get install fortune from the debian 3.0r1 (woody) CDs and a > bunch of relateds > > were installed. Meanwhile I cant find fortune anywhere, just a > bunch of related > > files (/usr fortunes, riddles, etc) > > > > -- > > David > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Bad fortune
Package 'fortune is not installed A list is directories is then rendered starting with /. /usr /usr/games /usr/games/fortune [/usr/games/fortune now works as expected] [more directory listings] Package 'fortune-min' is not installed Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files I looked before and did not see this directory. Neither did locate fortune turn up any entries -- David -Original Message- From: sean finney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 11:49 AM To: David Turetsky Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Bad fortune On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 09:51:32AM -0500, David Turetsky wrote: > I ran apt-get install fortune from the debian 3.0r1 (woody) CDs and a > bunch of relateds > > were installed. Meanwhile I can't find 'fortune' anywhere, just a bunch > of related you sure it's not in /usr/games? what does $ dpkg -L fortune fortune-mod fortunes-min say? sean -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bad fortune
On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 09:51:32AM -0500, David Turetsky wrote: > I ran apt-get install fortune from the debian 3.0r1 (woody) CDs and a > bunch of relateds > > were installed. Meanwhile I can't find 'fortune' anywhere, just a bunch > of related you sure it's not in /usr/games? what does $ dpkg -L fortune fortune-mod fortunes-min say? sean msg30539/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Bad fortune
I ran apt-get install fortune from the debian 3.0r1 (woody) CDs and a bunch of relateds were installed. Meanwhile I can’t find ‘fortune’ anywhere, just a bunch of related files (/usr… fortunes, riddles, etc) -- David
Re: fortune: "fortune: bad juju in is_existant: Permission denied"
On 31 Mar 2001 12:24:02 -0800, Joey Hess wrote: > Mario Vukelic wrote: > > I can't run fortune anymore: (...) > > Well according to the source this means that a stat() of some file did > not return true, and the errno was not ENOENT or ENOTDIR. stat(2) lists > some other possible error codes including ELOOP, EFAULT, EACCES, ENOMEM, > and ENAMETOOLONG. I'm betting it's EACCES -- some sort of local > permissions problem on your system. > > Stracing fortune and looking for the return code of the stat() call would > probably pinpoint your particular problem. Sigh, you were right about EACCES, and it seems I have a filesystem inconsisteny in my (reiserfs) /usr I conclude this from this output I get even when I'm root (but please correct me if I'm wrong): sonic:~# ls /usr/share/games/fortunes/ ls: /usr/share/games/fortunes/miscellaneous.dat: Permission denied ls: /usr/share/games/fortunes/men-women: Permission denied artdefinitions.dat fortunes law.dat medicine art.datdrugsfortunes.dat linuxcookie medicine.dat ascii-art drugs.datgoedel linuxcookie.dat men-women.dat ascii-art.dat educationgoedel.dat literature miscellaneous computers education.dathumorists literature.dat riddles computers.dat ethnic humorists.dat love riddles.dat cookie ethnic.dat kids love.dat cookie.dat food kids.dat magic definitionsfood.dat lawmagic.dat sonic:~# Also, reiserfsck -x (on umounted /usr) segfaults with a rather cryptic error message about some unexpected filesystem-internal value Well, seems I need to learn something about reiserfs and do a reiserfsck --rebuild-tree (shiver :) Thanks and kind regards, M. -- I did not vote for the Austrian government
Re: fortune: "fortune: bad juju in is_existant: Permission denied"
Mario Vukelic wrote: > I can't run fortune anymore: It's been like that for some weeks in > woody, but I guess it's happened only to me, since there are no > references to "juju" in the mailing list archive. If I run fortune on > the cmd line, I get the error given in this mail's subject, which isn't > very verbose. It does't matter if I run as root or regular user. > > Thanks for hints Well according to the source this means that a stat() of some file did not return true, and the errno was not ENOENT or ENOTDIR. stat(2) lists some other possible error codes including ELOOP, EFAULT, EACCES, ENOMEM, and ENAMETOOLONG. I'm betting it's EACCES -- some sort of local permissions problem on your system. Stracing fortune and looking for the return code of the stat() call would probably pinpoint your particular problem. -- see shy jo
fortune: "fortune: bad juju in is_existant: Permission denied"
Hi, I can't run fortune anymore: It's been like that for some weeks in woody, but I guess it's happened only to me, since there are no references to "juju" in the mailing list archive. If I run fortune on the cmd line, I get the error given in this mail's subject, which isn't very verbose. It does't matter if I run as root or regular user. Thanks for hints -- I did not vote for the Austrian government
Re: .signature and random fortune ?
Tolga KILICLI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Hi, > Do you know how to add random fortunes to the .signature file. (each mail > with different .signature ?) > One of the following packages may answer your needs: Package: signify Version: 1.06-1 Priority: optional Section: mail Maintainer: Brian White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Depends: perl5 Architecture: all Filename: dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/mail/signify_1.06-1.deb Size: 13518 MD5sum: affa7df0e5fe12f3d80eca7f2db57ce7 Description: Automatic, semi-random ".signature" rotator/generator Signify is a neat little program that allows a random signature to be generated from a set of rules. Each "section" can be one of an unlimited number of possibilities, each with its own weighting so those really cool quotes can appear more often than others. Sections can also be placed next to each other vertically to create columns. Each section can be formatted independently as left/right/center and top/bottom/vcenter. installed-size: 38 Package: sigrot Version: 1.1-2 Priority: optional Section: mail Maintainer: Christopher J. Morrone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Depends: libc6 Architecture: i386 Filename: dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/mail/sigrot_1.1-2.deb Size: 6604 MD5sum: 39883546ff3df1409f6a8386ffd3ddaf Description: Signature file rotation program. Rotates your signature file every time the sigrot is run. Includes an option for a non-rotating header and/or footer with a rotating middle. installed-size: 21 Bob -- _ |_) _ |_ Robert D. Hilliard<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> |_) (_) |_) Palm City, FL USAPGP Key ID: A8E40EB9
Re: .signature and random fortune ?
have a look at sigrot, afair it's avalaible debianized. hth, &rw On Fri, 07 Apr 2000 15:05:02 +0300, Tolga KILICLI writes: > >Hi, >Do you know how to add random fortunes to the .signature file. (each mail >with different .signature ?) -- / [EMAIL PROTECTED], 10.-13.4.2k, Hofburgkongresscentrum, Stand 14-15 \ / [EMAIL PROTECTED],12.-15.4.2k, Ifabo-Internet-Café,Halle 16 \ / Robert Waldner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | Phone: +43 1 89933 0 Fax x533 \ \KPNQwest/AT tech staff| Diefenbachg. 35 A-1150 Wien /
Re: .signature and random fortune ?
Quoting Tolga KILICLI ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > Do you know how to add random fortunes to the .signature file. (each mail > with different .signature ?) See the thread Help about Pine (yesterday?). Cheers, -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 1908 653 739 Fax: +44 1908 655 151 Snail: David Wright, Earth Science Dept., Milton Keynes, England, MK7 6AA Disclaimer: These addresses are only for reaching me, and do not signify official stationery. Views expressed here are either my own or plagiarised.
.signature and random fortune ?
Hi, Do you know how to add random fortunes to the .signature file. (each mail with different .signature ?) thanks, tk..
Re: Weird fortune problem...
On Thu, Oct 14, 1999 at 02:07:59PM -0500, Jon Marler wrote: > All of a sudden, my fortune "game" started saying this ... > > "fortune: no place to put residual probability (0%)" > > I am using fortune 9708-15 from potato. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Thanks! > > Jon > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - Please copy me as I am not a member of the list. Try deleting the following directory: /usr/local/share/games/fortune It worked for me. More information can be found in the bug report #47043. Dan -- Dan Everton -*- http://www.psynet.net/fada -*- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Welcome to Dan's fortune-O-rama Those who do things in a noble spirit of self-sacrifice are to be avoided at all costs. -- N. Alexander.
Weird fortune problem...
All of a sudden, my fortune "game" started saying this ... "fortune: no place to put residual probability (0%)" I am using fortune 9708-15 from potato. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! Jon [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please copy me as I am not a member of the list.
Re: fortune problems?
On Thu, 14 Oct 1999, Ingo Reimann wrote: > On Thu, Oct 14, 1999 at 12:01:41PM +1000, Dan Everton wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 13, 1999 at 05:02:44PM -0500, Robert Rati wrote: > > > For some reason, when I run fortune I get this message: > > > > > > fortune: no place to put residual probability (0%) > > > > > > This happened after I ran the newest wine which caused a kernel panic. I > > > had to do a hard reboot to get the syatem back. Does anyone know why this > > > is happening or how to fix it? > > > > I had the same problem after upgrading to the lates version of fortune. I > > fixed it by deleteing /usr/local/share/fortune. > > > Hi Dan, > > i don't have such a file... but the same symptoms... > > Ingo Reimann Sorry, I got the directory path wrong. Try removing /usr/local/share/games/fortunes instead. More details about what's actually going wrong can be found in the bug report #47043. Looks like a lot of people got hit by this one judging by the number of duplicate bugs. Dan
Re: fortune problems?
On Thu, Oct 14, 1999 at 12:01:41PM +1000, Dan Everton wrote: > On Wed, Oct 13, 1999 at 05:02:44PM -0500, Robert Rati wrote: > > For some reason, when I run fortune I get this message: > > > > fortune: no place to put residual probability (0%) > > > > This happened after I ran the newest wine which caused a kernel panic. I > > had to do a hard reboot to get the syatem back. Does anyone know why this > > is happening or how to fix it? > > I had the same problem after upgrading to the lates version of fortune. I > fixed it by deleteing /usr/local/share/fortune. > Hi Dan, i don't have such a file... but the same symptoms... Ingo Reimann
Re: fortune problems?
On Wed, Oct 13, 1999 at 05:02:44PM -0500, Robert Rati wrote: > For some reason, when I run fortune I get this message: > > fortune: no place to put residual probability (0%) > > This happened after I ran the newest wine which caused a kernel panic. I > had to do a hard reboot to get the syatem back. Does anyone know why this > is happening or how to fix it? I had the same problem after upgrading to the lates version of fortune. I fixed it by deleteing /usr/local/share/fortune. Odd I know but it worked for me. Dan -- Dan Everton -*- http://www.psynet.net/fada -*- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ------ Welcome to Dan's fortune-O-rama Culture is the habit of being pleased with the best and knowing why.
fortune problems?
For some reason, when I run fortune I get this message: fortune: no place to put residual probability (0%) This happened after I ran the newest wine which caused a kernel panic. I had to do a hard reboot to get the syatem back. Does anyone know why this is happening or how to fix it? Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1999-00 | Aka Khyron the Backstabber | LI NN N U U X X O ICQ# 2325055| LI N NN U U X | LLL I N N UUU X X O "Shackles cannot keep me bound | Those who can, do. forever. I'm outta here." |
Re: Still the less fortune problem...
On Mon, 14 Dec 1998, Stef Hoesli Wiederwald wrote: > > case $- in > > *i*) # interactive shell only > > echo "\n" > > fortune -a > > echo "" > > ;; > > esac > > Hm, this gives me an > Illegal variable name. > error... What about /etc/profile or whichever file is used by your shell as the system-wide profile file? Try to find lines with an odd number of single or double quotes. Remco
Still the less fortune problem...
> case $- in > *i*)# interactive shell only > echo "\n" > fortune -a > echo "" > ;; > esac Hm, this gives me an Illegal variable name. error... Stef
Re: less shows fortune
Stef Hoesli Wiederwald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > There probably a mismatched quote somewhere, or something similar. > > > > Post /etc/profile and /etc/csh.cshrc here, the error should be obvious > > to spot > > I don't think so: > > # /etc/profile: system-wide .profile file for bash(1). > > PATH="/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games" > PS1="\\$ " > > export PATH PS1 > > umask 002 > /usr/bin/check-sendfile > echo "\n" > fortune -a > echo "" try changing the above to: case $- in *i*) # interactive shell only /usr/bin/check-sendfile echo "\n" fortune -a echo "" ;; esac I think the problem is that your shell script is sourcing /etc/profile when it starts up, so the above change will allow it to execute in an interactive shell only. You really shouldn't have anything executable that has an output in your profile. The above does work in bash, but I don't know how tcsh is different, so you should check out the details first. -- Carl Johnson[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: less shows fortune
> There probably a mismatched quote somewhere, or something similar. > > Post /etc/profile and /etc/csh.cshrc here, the error should be obvious > to spot I don't think so: # /etc/profile: system-wide .profile file for bash(1). PATH="/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games" PS1="\\$ " export PATH PS1 umask 002 /usr/bin/check-sendfile echo "\n" fortune -a echo "" # /etc/csh.cshrc: system-wide .cshrc file for csh(1)/tcsh(1). # $Id: csh.cshrc,v 1.4 1998/06/05 21:04:02 luisgh Exp $ # Getting a consistent keyboard mapping if ($?tcsh ) then bindkey "\e[1~" beginning-of-line # Home bindkey "\e[7~" beginning-of-line # Home rxvt bindkey "\e[2~" overwrite-mode # Ins bindkey "\e[3~" delete-char# Delete bindkey "\e[4~" end-of-line# End bindkey "\e[8~" end-of-line# End rxvt endif if ( $?prompt ) then if ( "$TERM" == "linux" ) then set prompt = "%m:%B%~%b%# " else set prompt = "%U%m%u:%B%~%b%# " endif endif # inserted 14.9.98 by [EMAIL PROTECTED] setenv PATH /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games setenv EDITOR 'emacs -nw' #echo "\n" #fortune -a #echo ""
Re: less shows fortune
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Stef Hoesli Wiederwald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Since I put these lines > >echo "\n" >fortune -a >echo "" > >in /etc/profile and /etc/csh.cshrc, less gives me a fortune and the >newlines instead of the contents of a file: > >sos:~> less ei > > >The two party system ... is a triumph of the dialectic. It showed that >two could be one and one could be two and had probably been fabricated >by Hegel for the American market on a subcontract from General Dynamics. > -- I.F. Stone > >lesspipe.sh: Command not found. You made a typo. Somehow the "fortune" command, and the echos, got into the definitions of the LESSPIPE command. There probably a mismatched quote somewhere, or something similar. Post /etc/profile and /etc/csh.cshrc here, the error should be obvious to spot Mike. -- Indifference will certainly be the downfall of mankind, but who cares?
less still shows fortune...
> > When I take out the three lines from /etc/csh.cshrc, I still get this > > lesspipe.sh: Command not found. error message, but after that the > > contents of the file are displayed. > > > > What could that be? > ( -> man less ) > less tries to run lesspipe.sh. just remove the environment variables > $LESSOPEN from your /etc/profile and/or /etc/csh.cshrc . > > or create a lesspipe.sh anywhere in your $PATH like this: But why was there no lesspipe.sh already? Anyway: I did what you said, and I don't have the lesspipe.sh error message anymore. But less still shows me a fortune instead of the files contents. Stef
Re: less shows fortune
On Fri, Dec 11, 1998 at 02:45:26PM +0100, Stef Hoesli Wiederwald wrote: > lesspipe.sh: Command not found. > > > When I take out the three lines from /etc/csh.cshrc, I still get this > lesspipe.sh: Command not found. error message, but after that the > contents of the file are displayed. > > What could that be? ( -> man less ) less tries to run lesspipe.sh. just remove the environment variables $LESSOPEN from your /etc/profile and/or /etc/csh.cshrc . or create a lesspipe.sh anywhere in your $PATH like this: =-=-=-=-=- cut here =-=-=-=-=-= #!/bin/sh case "$1" in *.Z) uncompress -c $1 2>/dev/null ;; *.gz) gzip -cd $1 2>/dev/null ;; *.bz2) bzip2 -cd $1 2>/dev/null ;; esac =-=-=-=-=- cut here =-=-=-=-=-= now you're able to view compressed files without manually decompressing them. by(e) flo -- Graduate of the Darth Vader School of personel management
less shows fortune
Since I put these lines echo "\n" fortune -a echo "" in /etc/profile and /etc/csh.cshrc, less gives me a fortune and the newlines instead of the contents of a file: sos:~> less ei The two party system ... is a triumph of the dialectic. It showed that two could be one and one could be two and had probably been fabricated by Hegel for the American market on a subcontract from General Dynamics. -- I.F. Stone lesspipe.sh: Command not found. When I take out the three lines from /etc/csh.cshrc, I still get this lesspipe.sh: Command not found. error message, but after that the contents of the file are displayed. What could that be? Stef
Re: Pine Q. 2: Fortune in sig
On Wed, Nov 11, 1998 at 08:23:39AM -0600, J.L.M. wrote: > :-) In time, with much care and attention paid it, Linux MIGHT begin to > love you. Gee, all this talk about fortunes and we wind back up with a variation of... "Unix is user friendly... It is just picky about its friends." -- Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my http://www.calweb.com/~morpheus| employer's. They hired me for my ICQ: 5107343 | skills and labor, not my opinions! ---+- pgpIsfo2PJKwb.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Pine Q. 2: Fortune in sig
On Wed, 11 Nov 1998, Kent West wrote: > > #!/bin/sh > > makefortune .blahsig > > cp .blahsig .signature > > joe (or your favorite editor here) --.signature.sh-- #!/bin/bash echo " -- James http://ssdd.conservatory.com && fortune -s |fmt #&& fortune -s startrek linuxcookie computers riddles |fmt This selects a "short" function and gives it to fmt (so it's wrapped well). I have an editor macro for it. I tend to think of these things as editor issues, not Pine issues. > I *love* Linux! This is a great idea! I'll give it a shot tomorrow (it's > getting late). :-) In time, with much care and attention paid it, Linux MIGHT begin to love you.
Re: Pine Q. 2: Fortune in sig
Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Is there a[n easy] way to set up your signature file in Pine so that a > different fortune is sent with each signature? (I've come to realize that > with Linux, yes, it's possible, because you can do just about anything, > but is it _easily_ done?) Use "signify" with the fifo option. > If so, is it bad netiquette to do such a thing, or otherwise not > recommended? Well, emacs/gnus sometimes complains about my signature being to long. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] KeyID: 2048/E451C639 1998/01/28 Print: 5F 3D 43 1E 24 1E CC 48 1E 05 93 3A A7 10 73 37 The Unix way of drinking tea: cat /dev/boiler/water | tea | sieve > /cup mount -t hdev /dev/human/mouth01 /mouth ; cat /cup >/mouth/gulp
Re: Pine Q. 2: Fortune in sig
On Tue, 10 Nov 1998, Steve Lamb wrote: > On Wed, Nov 11, 1998 at 12:53:40AM -0600, Kent West wrote: > > I got to thinking There may be a way to concatenate the signature file > > and the output of fortune into a new (temporary) signature file so that > > the new temp sig file would be used by Pine. But I don't yet know enough > > about redirection/piping/etc to do this off the top of my head, and > > further, there may not be a way to get Pine to run that script between > > the time you press R for reply and the time the editor pops up on the > > screen with the signature in place. > > Sure there is... > > > Of course, I guess I could change my default Pine editor to something > > powerful enough to run macros when it starts and do just about anything. > > Just write a script to do what you want, then place a very simple script > as the editor. > > #!/bin/sh > makefortune .blahsig > cp .blahsig .signature > joe (or your favorite editor here) > > Sure, you'll be one "fortune" behind, but that way they do change each > time and you do see what gets imported. Also, as a nudge for Joe, small, > fast, and ^K/ is a godsend. Don't let the vi folks fool ya. ;) > > > I *love* Linux! This is a great idea! I'll give it a shot tomorrow (it's getting late). Thanks! -- Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] KC5ENO - Amateur Radio: When all else fails. Linux - Finally! A real OS for the Intel PC!
Re: Pine Q. 2: Fortune in sig
On Wed, Nov 11, 1998 at 12:53:40AM -0600, Kent West wrote: > I got to thinking There may be a way to concatenate the signature file > and the output of fortune into a new (temporary) signature file so that > the new temp sig file would be used by Pine. But I don't yet know enough > about redirection/piping/etc to do this off the top of my head, and > further, there may not be a way to get Pine to run that script between > the time you press R for reply and the time the editor pops up on the > screen with the signature in place. Sure there is... > Of course, I guess I could change my default Pine editor to something > powerful enough to run macros when it starts and do just about anything. Just write a script to do what you want, then place a very simple script as the editor. #!/bin/sh makefortune .blahsig cp .blahsig .signature joe (or your favorite editor here) Sure, you'll be one "fortune" behind, but that way they do change each time and you do see what gets imported. Also, as a nudge for Joe, small, fast, and ^K/ is a godsend. Don't let the vi folks fool ya. ;) -- Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my http://www.calweb.com/~morpheus| employer's. They hired me for my ICQ: 5107343 | skills and labor, not my opinions! ---+- pgp5FruCshvF8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Pine Q. 2: Fortune in sig
On Wed, 11 Nov 1998, Kent West wrote: > On Tue, 10 Nov 1998, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > > > On Tue, 10 Nov 1998, Kent West wrote: > > > > > 1) Does the filter run before I compose the message? In other words, > > > should I be able to see the fortune in my sig below right now as I'm > > > typing this, or does it get added when I actually send the message? > > > > It runs during the actual sending process, so you don't ever actually see > > the result of it. Check your sent-mail folder to see what it looks like. > > Bummer: I hate to send something unless I know what I'm sending. > Nonetheless, I will this time in order to demonstrate that your > instructions worked. Thanks! > I got to thinking There may be a way to concatenate the signature file and the output of fortune into a new (temporary) signature file so that the new temp sig file would be used by Pine. But I don't yet know enough about redirection/piping/etc to do this off the top of my head, and further, there may not be a way to get Pine to run that script between the time you press R for reply and the time the editor pops up on the screen with the signature in place. Of course, I guess I could change my default Pine editor to something powerful enough to run macros when it starts and do just about anything. Oh well, that's for another day. For now I'm content with having learned a new technique. Thanks! -- Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] KC5ENO - Amateur Radio: When all else fails. Linux - Finally! A real OS for the Intel PC!
Re: Pine Q. 2: Fortune in sig
On Tue, 10 Nov 1998, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > On Tue, 10 Nov 1998, Kent West wrote: > > > 1) Does the filter run before I compose the message? In other words, > > should I be able to see the fortune in my sig below right now as I'm > > typing this, or does it get added when I actually send the message? > > It runs during the actual sending process, so you don't ever actually see > the result of it. Check your sent-mail folder to see what it looks like. Bummer: I hate to send something unless I know what I'm sending. Nonetheless, I will this time in order to demonstrate that your instructions worked. Thanks! > > 2) I named the temp file sigfortune, and in Pine's config I specified the > > sending-filter to be "sigfortune _TMPFILE_" (without the quotes). I assume > > the _TMPFILE_ is a filename that Pine uses, or was that just a dummy name > > you invented and I'm supposed to use some other real file name? Also, do I > > need to specify more of the sigfortune path, such as "./sigfortune" or > > "%homedir%/sigfortune" (can I even use a variable such as "%homedir%" in > > Linux?)? Do I need to modify permissions on sigfortune? > > You should use _TMPFILE_. See the Pine docs (available from the main > menu) for info on what special names can be used. > > Be sure your script has the execute bit turned on (chmod u+x ). > I specify the absolute path to my script in my Pine config. I don't know > what's actually required. It didn't work when I just had the filename, and I didn't try the "./" relative method. It does work with the full pathname (u/staff/westk/sigfortune). > > noah > > PGP public key available at > http://lynx.dac.neu.edu/home/httpd/n/nmeyerha/mail.html > or by 'finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: 2.6.2 > > iQCVAwUBNkj/uYdCcpBjGWoFAQHmHAQAisdR/nVJtff+lzRDIDHadlZlZ/JfIx+q > LsJlcCQfuNn8v7yoZdQUoIkZe7xyZoHJBG/+VyG6NX+fsVT8T4++cyznVWw3ZYxR > G4q7SyJmEvfMAaKqZx44uqFRh3HTSwpCdG0w3JDv4Zk20KZ980qirTMxC6Hgq4A+ > dR0vzKR95oc= > =CqFK > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > Again, thanks! That's another success under my belt thanks to you. -- Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] KC5ENO - Amateur Radio: When all else fails. Linux - Finally! A real OS for the Intel PC! Acid -- better living through chemistry.