Re: Help installing Debian 2.2r3 (formerly 2.2r17 - brain misfire )
Here's what I do, got it from some dual-boot HOWTO or something: 1. The Win2000 system is set up and installed, all OK. 2. Lilo is set up as follows: boot=/dev/hda5 # instead or boot=/dev/hda This is the option to install to the partition instead of the MBR. 3. After running lilo, I run the command dd bs=512 if=/dev/hda5 of= bootsect.lnx count=1 This copies the first 512 bytes of /dev/hda5 to the file bootsect.lnx. 4. Copy the file bootsect.lnx into the root of your Win2000 system. 5. Edit your Windows boot.ini file by adding the line: C:\bootsect.lnx="Debian Linux" 6. Now you're good to go. Each time you boot, the Windows boot menu will list Debian Linux as an option. On my system it's the default. The downside to this method is that you have to recreate the bootsect.lnx file every time you you run lilo, but I don't do that too often. HTH, Paul -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] <- Please note new email address
Re: Help installing Debian 2.2r3 (formerly 2.2r17 - brain misfire )
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 05:20:57PM -0600, LaGuardia, Kristofer S. wrote: > I would do that, but there is one main problem that i can't remember if i > mentioned way back in the beginning...I have my three hard drives on a > Promise UDMA66 card...and my DVD and CD burner are on the motherboard. > So...maybe that's the problem my BIOS is having. It could be conflicting > with my Promise card's BIOS and not knowing which drive to boot up, so the > BIOS overrides anything else. I might be stuck with trying GRUB...but not > much is going on there either...I made a GRUB boot disk...and when it boots, > it doesn't give me a menu or anything...just says "GRUB >". I'll get Linux > on this machine one way or another. Just don't know the best way to go > about doing it. I have a backup of Win2000, and the rest of the drive, so > that isn't a problem(not that I know of). Anyone out there have a Promise > card, and had Windows2000 installed first, then tried to install Debian? If > you did, please let me know how the heck you got it installed. The help > would be GREATLY appreciated!!! :)) I'm not giving up... A few years ago, when I was first learning linux, there was a rule that a pc operating system MUST boot off one of the first 2 IDE drives. I believe that wasn't a LILO thing so much as in IA (Intel Architecture) thing. Of course at that time, we had a 512 Mb booting rule too . . . Maybe the above doesn't apply any more, but it might. -- Thank you, Joe Bouchard Powered by Debian GNU/Linux
RE: Help installing Debian 2.2r3 (formerly 2.2r17 - brain misfire )
Title: RE: Help installing Debian 2.2r3 (formerly 2.2r17 - brain misfire ) I would do that, but there is one main problem that i can't remember if i mentioned way back in the beginning...I have my three hard drives on a Promise UDMA66 card...and my DVD and CD burner are on the motherboard. So...maybe that's the problem my BIOS is having. It could be conflicting with my Promise card's BIOS and not knowing which drive to boot up, so the BIOS overrides anything else. I might be stuck with trying GRUB...but not much is going on there either...I made a GRUB boot disk...and when it boots, it doesn't give me a menu or anything...just says "GRUB >". I'll get Linux on this machine one way or another. Just don't know the best way to go about doing it. I have a backup of Win2000, and the rest of the drive, so that isn't a problem(not that I know of). Anyone out there have a Promise card, and had Windows2000 installed first, then tried to install Debian? If you did, please let me know how the heck you got it installed. The help would be GREATLY appreciated!!! :)) I'm not giving up... > -Original Message- > From: csj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 3:24 PM > To: LaGuardia, Kristofer S. > Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Help installing Debian 2.2r3 (formerly 2.2r17 - brain > misfire ) > > > On Wed, 5 Sep 2001 10:32:13 -0600 > "LaGuardia, Kristofer S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Believe me, I don't want to give up on Debian. I would > really really > like > > to get it up and running. My biggest problem is Win2000 is > installed > on the > > C drive, or first drive, and Debian is installed on the D drive. I > would > > like to stay with LILO if possible. I'm about to break down and > install it > > onto the same drive as Win2000. I'll just make another partition on > it...I > > have 20 gigs free on it so I don't have a problem with installing > something > > else on it. Then some of the tutorials and the installation might > make > > sense. > > If you're that desperate, I suggest just going to the bios and > temporarily tagging drive C as "uninstalled." That way it won't boot > even if you can't get LILO to dual boot. Just install your > bootloader on > drive D (hdb), and forget that drive C exists. I once did that in my > dark Window$ days so I can get two different Window$ installations to > live in peace and harmony. Now if you want Bill back, just go to the > bios and do the reverse, tag D as "uninstalled" and C as "installed." >
Re: Help installing Debian 2.2r3 (formerly 2.2r17 - brain misfire )
On Wed, 5 Sep 2001 10:32:13 -0600 "LaGuardia, Kristofer S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Believe me, I don't want to give up on Debian. I would really really like > to get it up and running. My biggest problem is Win2000 is installed on the > C drive, or first drive, and Debian is installed on the D drive. I would > like to stay with LILO if possible. I'm about to break down and install it > onto the same drive as Win2000. I'll just make another partition on it...I > have 20 gigs free on it so I don't have a problem with installing something > else on it. Then some of the tutorials and the installation might make > sense. If you're that desperate, I suggest just going to the bios and temporarily tagging drive C as "uninstalled." That way it won't boot even if you can't get LILO to dual boot. Just install your bootloader on drive D (hdb), and forget that drive C exists. I once did that in my dark Window$ days so I can get two different Window$ installations to live in peace and harmony. Now if you want Bill back, just go to the bios and do the reverse, tag D as "uninstalled" and C as "installed."
Re: Help installing Debian 2.2r3 (formerly 2.2r17 - brain misfire )
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 10:32:13AM -0600, LaGuardia, Kristofer S. wrote: | Believe me, I don't want to give up on Debian. I would really really like | to get it up and running. My biggest problem is Win2000 is installed on the | C drive, or first drive, and Debian is installed on the D drive. I would | like to stay with LILO if possible. I'm about to break down and install it | onto the same drive as Win2000. I'll just make another partition on it...I | have 20 gigs free on it so I don't have a problem with installing something | else on it. Then some of the tutorials and the installation might make | sense. Go with GRUB! It works beautifully. There is a Dell machine at work that has win2k on the beginning of the (big) hard drive and RH on the end. LILO (that came with RH6.2 anyways) had trouble booting Linux because it was too far into the disk, and I couldn't get it to boot win2k at all. Then I tried grub and had no trouble with either OS. In addition, my home PC had win98 on the first hard disk (ide bus 0) and Debian on the second hard disk (ide bus 1). LILO couldn't boot linux because my BIOS was too crappy to boot from the second disk (it was a compaq machine). After my good experience with grub at work I tried it at home and it had no trouble dual-booting! IMO grub is much easier to configure and use than lilo too. http://www.gnu.org/software/grub HTH, -D
RE: Help installing Debian 2.2r3 (formerly 2.2r17 - brain misfire )
Title: RE: Help installing Debian 2.2r3 (formerly 2.2r17 - brain misfire) Believe me, I don't want to give up on Debian. I would really really like to get it up and running. My biggest problem is Win2000 is installed on the C drive, or first drive, and Debian is installed on the D drive. I would like to stay with LILO if possible. I'm about to break down and install it onto the same drive as Win2000. I'll just make another partition on it...I have 20 gigs free on it so I don't have a problem with installing something else on it. Then some of the tutorials and the installation might make sense. > -Original Message- > From: Timeboy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 9:46 AM > To: LaGuardia, Kristofer S. > Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Help installing Debian 2.2r3 (formerly 2.2r17 - brain > misfire) > > > On 2001.09.05 15:39 "LaGuardia, Kristofer S." wrote: > > Okay, I didn't install LILO to the MBR. I did install it > to the boot > > partition. However, nothing came up at boot time. Oh > well, i will try > > again tonight...maybe I'm just missing something. Where > would I find cd > > images of "Woody"? I am willing to give it a whirl. If I > can't find the > > images I might have to go back to Mandrake...shudder... > > Hey! > > Don't give up. Debian is a little bit harder to use for newbies, then > Mandrake or somthimg like else. But the best Linux i ever used. > > How i remember you have your Windows on a FAT32 partition? You can put > LILO into your MBR. And if you take my suggestion (Linux on the first > HD), there are no problems if you install LILO into MBR of this Linux > drive. > > I don't know whether there is a CD image for Woody. But do you have a > CD set from Potato? Then install first Potato. Best only the base > packages and that was is needed to get an connection to the internet. > Using the tool dselect is very good to get an easy upgrade to Woody. > And then you can install the other packages are needed of you. > > There is nothing while booting your new Debian Linux? Do you remember > my words that the BIOS only can boot from you first hard disk? If > Debian is on another disk you have to set your other disks to "none" > in your BIOS. Then you should be able to boot from your Linux drive. > After you have configured your LILO correct, you can put your other > drives again into the BIOS. > > Timo >
Re: Help installing Debian 2.2r3 (formerly 2.2r17 - brain misfire)
On 2001.09.05 15:39 "LaGuardia, Kristofer S." wrote: > Okay, I didn't install LILO to the MBR. I did install it to the boot > partition. However, nothing came up at boot time. Oh well, i will try > again tonight...maybe I'm just missing something. Where would I find cd > images of "Woody"? I am willing to give it a whirl. If I can't find the > images I might have to go back to Mandrake...shudder... Hey! Don't give up. Debian is a little bit harder to use for newbies, then Mandrake or somthimg like else. But the best Linux i ever used. How i remember you have your Windows on a FAT32 partition? You can put LILO into your MBR. And if you take my suggestion (Linux on the first HD), there are no problems if you install LILO into MBR of this Linux drive. I don't know whether there is a CD image for Woody. But do you have a CD set from Potato? Then install first Potato. Best only the base packages and that was is needed to get an connection to the internet. Using the tool dselect is very good to get an easy upgrade to Woody. And then you can install the other packages are needed of you. There is nothing while booting your new Debian Linux? Do you remember my words that the BIOS only can boot from you first hard disk? If Debian is on another disk you have to set your other disks to "none" in your BIOS. Then you should be able to boot from your Linux drive. After you have configured your LILO correct, you can put your other drives again into the BIOS. Timo
Re: Help installing Debian 2.2r3 (formerly 2.2r17 - brain misfire)
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 07:39:17AM -0600, LaGuardia, Kristofer S. wrote: | Okay, I didn't install LILO to the MBR. I did install it to the boot | partition. However, nothing came up at boot time. Oh well, i will try | again tonight...maybe I'm just missing something. Where would I find cd | images of "Woody"? I am willing to give it a whirl. If I can't find the | images I might have to go back to Mandrake...shudder... Grab ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/grub/grub-0.90-i386-pc.ext2fs and dump it to a floppy disk. Then you can boot with it. If you like grub then I can provide you with more details on configuring and installing it. When booting grub provides you with a preconfigured menu (that is, you configure it by ediing a file, this floppy image comes with a sample config) and a command line so that you can try out various options and see what works. If you installed Linux on /dev/hda1 then you want to have (hd0,0) as your root partition in grub's config. You can dump the image to a floppy using dd if=grub-0.90-i386-pc.ext2fs of=/dev/fd0 or you can use rawwritewin if you have a windows system (it's much better now since it has a gui). HTH, -D
