Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps

2024-06-01 Thread Larry Martell
On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 2:24 AM gene heskett  wrote:
> Well, since I'm alone, my wife passed 3.5 years back, and was not
> computer literate, its my show. And sshfs Just Works. I use this machine
> as the src for my output for some 3d printers, although the 4 linuxcnc
> machines are largely standalone in that the gcode I run on them was all
> written by me on that machine.. I often have more than one login session
> to a given machine because that machine may also be its own buildbot.
> Every machine has access to the world, but its all hidden behind a
> dd-wrt running router doing the NAT. I don't have to fight with
> samba/cifs and its daily updates to keep it working, permissions are
> 100% linux, nor do I fool with nfs and its weekly updates that always
> break it.
>
> But age is playing a role too, I have short term memory problems.
> Perhaps because of my age, I'll be 90 in October if I don't fall over first.
>
> The only dis to ssh and friends has been the local key files and keeping
> them up to date. That's very minor, its probably been a year since a new
> install on one of my pi clones had me hunting down an aging key file.
> Nothing like this broken bookworm install, its far more annoyance than
> any of the other problems. I'll miss morning roll call, and disappear
> soon enough and then it will be a bit more peaceful here.
>
> In the meantime, everybody take care and stay well.  You are my
> connection to the rest of the world.

Gene, you are an inspiration to me. I hope that I am half as lucid as
you when I am 90. But when you miss morning roll call how will we
know?



Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps

2024-06-01 Thread gene heskett

On 6/1/24 06:07, Michael Grant wrote:
I use sshfs, works great to let me drop files on my server from my 
desktop. But I wouldn't call that "file sharing".  I probably would call 
that a "network disk" or "remote mount".


There's probably some formal definition out there, but when I think of 
file sharing, I think of someone proffering up a single file (or folder) 
and sharing it point-to-point with one or some small group of people.


I have long been plagued by the problem if sitting in a room or on a 
boat with someone, 2 devices right next to one another, and no trivially 
easy way to send a file from one device to the other without say first 
uploading it to some mutual third party (e.g. whatsapp).


sshfs isn't going to let you share files between say 2 phones, at least, 
not very easily if at all.


By recommendation further up in this thread, I tried Google's Quick 
Share between my wife's phone and my phone.  Followed all the 
instructions, did not work.  Followed all the troubleshooting 
instructions.  Nope, my device doesn't appear on her phone when I share, 
and neither the other way around.  Searched the web, found a ton of 
people with same issue.  It's DoA I'm afraid.


Between family members, we have in the past shared files using a 
synology box and their Drive app.  It works just like Dropbox except 
file is on your own infra.  It's not open source though and I don't know 
how tied it actually is to Synology's infra.  One certainly needs to be 
on the net to use it.


To this day, I have yet ever to see an easy way to share a file between 
2 devices without full internet connectivity, except by say getting one 
to run an ftp or ssh server and ftp or ssh'ing over the file between 
local ip addrs (e.g. 192.168.x.y).  I'd love to know some well know 
good, not-evil, open source app that runs on all the platforms that I 
could tell people to install to send them a file without using the 
internet.  I can't really see any technical reason such an thing 
couldn't work, say over bluetooth or local IPs and maybe it does exist, 
I've just never run across such a thing.  The key word here is EASY.  I 
can't be hacking someone's phone for an hour just to transfer them a file.


Michael Grant


The keyword with a "phone" as you refer to that handheld computer, is 
locked in service. Just one of the reasons I only have an expired 
wallmart flip phone that hasn't been renewed in 4 or 5 years. If I'm 
going on a long trip where a vehicle problem might need a fone to yell 
for help, I'll go see what wally has today.  Until then its a nuisance, 
with every scammer on the planet calling you up at dinner time or in the 
middle of taking care of your horizontal homework. Amazons BIG red 
button has blocked 255 such scammers so far.


.


Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
--
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 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
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 - Louis D. Brandeis



Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps

2024-06-01 Thread Joe
On Sat, 01 Jun 2024 10:06:43 +
"Michael Grant"  wrote:


> 
> To this day, I have yet ever to see an easy way to share a file
> between 2 devices without full internet connectivity, except by say
> getting one to run an ftp or ssh server and ftp or ssh'ing over the
> file between local ip addrs (e.g. 192.168.x.y).  I'd love to know
> some well know good, not-evil, open source app that runs on all the
> platforms that I could tell people to install to send them a file
> without using the internet.  I can't really see any technical reason
> such an thing couldn't work, say over bluetooth or local IPs and
> maybe it does exist, I've just never run across such a thing.  The
> key word here is EASY.  I can't be hacking someone's phone for an
> hour just to transfer them a file.
> 
> Michael Grant
> 

a. I know nothing about iOS
b. I don't know if this will help

I have an Android phone. If I plug its micro USB charge/data connection
into my desktop's USB port, two entries appear on 'Device' in Thunar.
Pictures (only) can be transferred.

If I pull down the Android status menu and select the USB entry, then
tap for more options, then select file transfer. one of the Device
entries disappears and the other shows various directories. Files
of other kinds can be transferred to and from my workstation's
directories by copy and paste, and presumably by drag and drop. No
additional software is required on the phone.

Two Android devices plugged into something portable, such as a netbook
or Raspberry Pi could presumably transfer files fairly easily. I've
never needed to do it, so I haven't actually tried it between mobiles,
but I use one phone this way to transfer files to and from my network,
which is quicker than emailing them. I don't know what the earliest
version of Android with this ability is. Update: Google says Android 9.
There is a Mac app to do it, Windows and Linux machines including
Chromebook do it natively.

Maybe more ideas here:
https://www.grover.com/blog/en/7-ways-android-data-transfer
https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/iphone/iph3ea029318/17.0/ios/17.0


-- 
Joe



Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps

2024-06-01 Thread Dan Ritter
Michael Grant wrote: 
> I have long been plagued by the problem if sitting in a room or on a boat
> with someone, 2 devices right next to one another, and no trivially easy way
> to send a file from one device to the other without say first uploading it
> to some mutual third party (e.g. whatsapp).

...

> To this day, I have yet ever to see an easy way to share a file between 2
> devices without full internet connectivity, except by say getting one to run
> an ftp or ssh server and ftp or ssh'ing over the file between local ip addrs
> (e.g. 192.168.x.y).  I'd love to know some well know good, not-evil, open
> source app that runs on all the platforms that I could tell people to
> install to send them a file without using the internet.  I can't really see
> any technical reason such an thing couldn't work, say over bluetooth or
> local IPs and maybe it does exist, I've just never run across such a thing.
> The key word here is EASY.  I can't be hacking someone's phone for an hour
> just to transfer them a file.

The web browser technology called WebRTC does that quite well,
but for security reasons -- nobody wants a self-perpetuating
worm -- you need an intermediary device to introduce the two
participants but not to actually transfer the file.

And so there is snapdrop.net, which you can choose to trust or
you can run your own copy -- it's GPL3. Works between any two
devices that run modern web browsers, including iPhones,
Androids, Linux, Windows, Macs...

There are bluetooth solutions between Linux and Android and
Windows, but Apple does not allow bluetooth file transfer from
or to IOS with any operating systems they don't control.

-dsr-



Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps

2024-06-01 Thread gene heskett

On 5/31/24 22:37, David Wright wrote:

On Fri 31 May 2024 at 17:30:19 (+0100), mick.crane wrote:

On 2024-05-31 13:58, gene heskett wrote:

On 5/30/24 20:09, mick.crane wrote:

On 2024-05-29 15:07, Carter Zhang wrote:

Are there any free apps for GNU/Linux and Android to share files over
LAN? There have already been LocalSend, LanXchange, LANDrop,
NitroShare, Sharik, Warpinator, TrebleShot, but they have respective
problems.


   I don't know if sshfs would have issues with more than one
connection.


It does not, I have open sessions to 6 other machines here,
possability's of up to 10 if all are turned on.


AFAICT from your posts Gene, you are the sole user on your LAN,
so "sharing files" takes on a particular meaning.


I only drag stuff in and out of the directory in Thunar. Dragging from
the directory takes a copy. I wondered what would happen if somebody
deleted a file while you were half way through fetching it.


AIUI you get a race. So unless you elaborate on who the potential
agents are on your LAN (spouse, kids, kids mates), I don't think
sshfs would be an appropriate choice, and neither does an author
of the wikipedia page:

  "SSHFS is an alternative to those protocols [A(pple)FP, NFS, SMB]
   only in situations where users are confident that files and
   directories will not be targeted for writing by another user,
   at the same time."

Well, since I'm alone, my wife passed 3.5 years back, and was not 
computer literate, its my show. And sshfs Just Works. I use this machine 
as the src for my output for some 3d printers, although the 4 linuxcnc 
machines are largely standalone in that the gcode I run on them was all 
written by me on that machine.. I often have more than one login session 
to a given machine because that machine may also be its own buildbot. 
Every machine has access to the world, but its all hidden behind a 
dd-wrt running router doing the NAT. I don't have to fight with 
samba/cifs and its daily updates to keep it working, permissions are 
100% linux, nor do I fool with nfs and its weekly updates that always 
break it.


But age is playing a role too, I have short term memory problems. 
Perhaps because of my age, I'll be 90 in October if I don't fall over first.


The only dis to ssh and friends has been the local key files and keeping 
them up to date. That's very minor, its probably been a year since a new 
install on one of my pi clones had me hunting down an aging key file. 
Nothing like this broken bookworm install, its far more annoyance than 
any of the other problems. I'll miss morning roll call, and disappear 
soon enough and then it will be a bit more peaceful here.


In the meantime, everybody take care and stay well.  You are my 
connection to the rest of the world.



Cheers,
David.


Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis



Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps

2024-05-31 Thread David Wright
On Fri 31 May 2024 at 17:30:19 (+0100), mick.crane wrote:
> On 2024-05-31 13:58, gene heskett wrote:
> > On 5/30/24 20:09, mick.crane wrote:
> > > On 2024-05-29 15:07, Carter Zhang wrote:
> > > > Are there any free apps for GNU/Linux and Android to share files over
> > > > LAN? There have already been LocalSend, LanXchange, LANDrop,
> > > > NitroShare, Sharik, Warpinator, TrebleShot, but they have respective
> > > > problems.
> > > 
> > >   I don't know if sshfs would have issues with more than one
> > > connection.
> > > 
> > It does not, I have open sessions to 6 other machines here,
> > possability's of up to 10 if all are turned on.

AFAICT from your posts Gene, you are the sole user on your LAN,
so "sharing files" takes on a particular meaning.

> I only drag stuff in and out of the directory in Thunar. Dragging from
> the directory takes a copy. I wondered what would happen if somebody
> deleted a file while you were half way through fetching it.

AIUI you get a race. So unless you elaborate on who the potential
agents are on your LAN (spouse, kids, kids mates), I don't think
sshfs would be an appropriate choice, and neither does an author
of the wikipedia page:

 "SSHFS is an alternative to those protocols [A(pple)FP, NFS, SMB]
  only in situations where users are confident that files and
  directories will not be targeted for writing by another user,
  at the same time."

Cheers,
David.



Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps

2024-05-31 Thread tomas
On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 01:16:28PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 05:30:19PM +0100, mick.crane wrote:
> > I only drag stuff in and out of the directory in Thunar. Dragging from the
> > directory takes a copy. I wondered what would happen if somebody deleted a
> > file while you were half way through fetching it.
> 
> If you're copying a file, that means some process has the file opened.

(that's what I meant with "the meaning of fetch". Is it the drag
process by the user? Then the file is not yet open -- and nothing
will be copied. Is it the actual copy? Then your description is
the most accurate one)

> Removing (unlinking) a file that's opened causes it to vanish from the
> raw directory, but the inode and the blocks of data are left alone until
> all processes have closed it.  Only then will it be marked for recyling.
> 
> You'll just have to hope that the (remote) copy succeeds on the first
> try, because once the remote reader loses connection, if the file is
> closed on the server, it's gone.

Cheers
-- 
t


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Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps

2024-05-31 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 05:30:19PM +0100, mick.crane wrote:
> I only drag stuff in and out of the directory in Thunar. Dragging from the
> directory takes a copy. I wondered what would happen if somebody deleted a
> file while you were half way through fetching it.

If you're copying a file, that means some process has the file opened.

Removing (unlinking) a file that's opened causes it to vanish from the
raw directory, but the inode and the blocks of data are left alone until
all processes have closed it.  Only then will it be marked for recyling.

You'll just have to hope that the (remote) copy succeeds on the first
try, because once the remote reader loses connection, if the file is
closed on the server, it's gone.



Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps

2024-05-31 Thread tomas
On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 05:30:19PM +0100, mick.crane wrote:

[...]

> I only drag stuff in and out of the directory in Thunar. Dragging from the
> directory takes a copy. I wondered what would happen if somebody deleted a
> file while you were half way through fetching it.

This will depend on the precise values you assign to "you" and "fetch". And,
of course to "delete".

Cheers
-- 
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Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps

2024-05-31 Thread mick.crane

On 2024-05-31 13:58, gene heskett wrote:

On 5/30/24 20:09, mick.crane wrote:

On 2024-05-29 15:07, Carter Zhang wrote:

Are there any free apps for GNU/Linux and Android to share files over
LAN? There have already been LocalSend, LanXchange, LANDrop,
NitroShare, Sharik, Warpinator, TrebleShot, but they have respective
problems.


  I don't know if sshfs would have issues with more than one 
connection.

mick


It does not, I have open sessions to 6 other machines here,
possability's of up to 10 if all are turned on.


I only drag stuff in and out of the directory in Thunar. Dragging from 
the directory takes a copy. I wondered what would happen if somebody 
deleted a file while you were half way through fetching it.


mick



Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps

2024-05-31 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 08:58:34AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> On 5/30/24 20:09, mick.crane wrote:
> > On 2024-05-29 15:07, Carter Zhang wrote:
> > > Are there any free apps for GNU/Linux and Android to share files over
> > > LAN? There have already been LocalSend, LanXchange, LANDrop,
> > > NitroShare, Sharik, Warpinator, TrebleShot, but they have respective
> > > problems.
> > 
> >   I don't know if sshfs would have issues with more than one connection.
> > mick
> > 
> It does not, I have open sessions to 6 other machines here, possability's of
> up to 10 if all are turned on.
> > .

I interpreted mick's sentence to mean multiple connections between the
same two computers, or perhaps multiple clients all connecting to a
single server.  A single client connecting to multiple servers was never
in question, at least in my mind.



Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps

2024-05-31 Thread gene heskett

On 5/30/24 20:09, mick.crane wrote:

On 2024-05-29 15:07, Carter Zhang wrote:

Are there any free apps for GNU/Linux and Android to share files over
LAN? There have already been LocalSend, LanXchange, LANDrop,
NitroShare, Sharik, Warpinator, TrebleShot, but they have respective
problems.


  I don't know if sshfs would have issues with more than one connection.
mick

It does not, I have open sessions to 6 other machines here, 
possability's of up to 10 if all are turned on.

.


Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis



Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps

2024-05-30 Thread Carter Zhang
Dear Richard,

But I never use pre-complied packages since by doing this I won't know whether 
I will install proprietary binaries.

Yours,
Carter

On May 31, 2024 2:38:26 PM GMT+08:00, Richard  wrote:
>LocalSend and LanXchange are available as precompiled archives. Also,
>LocalSend is available as Flatpak.
>
>Am Fr., 31. Mai 2024 um 04:52 Uhr schrieb Carter Zhang <
>mcut17...@autistici.org>:
>
>> Dear Richard,
>>
>> Thank you for your reply. LocalSend, LanXchange, LANDrop, NitroShare,
>> Sharik, Warpinator, TrebleShot have their respective problems.
>>
>> LocalSend is not available in Debian's and Trisquel's official
>> repositories, and it is not so convenient to complie it from source using a
>> machine with a memory of 8GB.
>>
>> LanXchange is not available in Debian's and Trisquel's official
>> repositories, source as well, and its source complication on my machine
>> fails.
>>
>> The Android client for LANDrop is not libre.
>>
>> NitroShare, Sharik, Warpinator and TrebleShot are all no longer updated
>> and the latest version of them cannot be complied on modern GNU/Linux
>> environment.
>>
>> In addition, KDE Connect sometimes disconnects and cannot reconnect.
>>
>> Yours,
>> Carter
>>
>>
>> On May 29, 2024 10:56:02 PM GMT+08:00, Richard  wrote:
>>
>>> KDE connect? That has clients for many systems.
>>>
>>> But the question is, what's the issue with the existing solutions? It's
>>> quite a useless task to recommend file transfer apps when they all have the
>>> same issue you try to avoid.
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>


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Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps

2024-05-30 Thread eben

On 5/30/24 22:46, Carter Zhang wrote:

Dear Dan,

Thanks a lot for your reply but I am not clear how to use SFTP, SCP or
NFS on Android. Could you please show me how? Any help will be
appreciated.


(lines wrapped)

SFTP / SCP:

https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/pushpitha/50334853/1538653/1538653_800.jpg

NFS: it's not simple.

--
Answer: two spoonfuls in my cup, please.
Question: how much should I use?  (why top-posting is bad)
http://www.fscked.co.uk/writing/top-posting-cuss.html



Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps

2024-05-30 Thread Carter Zhang
Dear Richard,

Thank you for your reply. LocalSend, LanXchange, LANDrop, NitroShare, Sharik, 
Warpinator, TrebleShot have their respective problems.

LocalSend is not available in Debian's and Trisquel's official repositories, 
and it is not so convenient to complie it from source using a machine with a 
memory of 8GB.

LanXchange is not available in Debian's and Trisquel's official repositories, 
source as well, and its source complication on my machine fails.

The Android client for LANDrop is not libre.

NitroShare, Sharik, Warpinator and TrebleShot are all no longer updated and the 
latest version of them cannot be complied on modern GNU/Linux environment.

In addition, KDE Connect sometimes disconnects and cannot reconnect.

Yours,
Carter

On May 29, 2024 10:56:02 PM GMT+08:00, Richard  wrote:
>KDE connect? That has clients for many systems.
>
>But the question is, what's the issue with the existing solutions? It's
>quite a useless task to recommend file transfer apps when they all have the
>same issue you try to avoid.
>
>Richard


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Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps

2024-05-30 Thread Carter Zhang
Dear Dan,

Sorry I forgot an CC.

Thanks a lot for your reply but I am not clear how to use SFTP, SCP or NFS on 
Android. Could you please show me how? Any help will be appreciated. 

On May 29, 2024 11:37:55 PM GMT+08:00, Dan Ritter  wrote:
>Carter Zhang wrote: 
>> Dear Dan,
>> 
>> Thanks a lot for your reply but I am not clear how to use SFTP, SCP or NFS 
>> on Android. Could you please show me how? Any help will be appreciated. 
>> 
>
>Hi, Carter.
>
>The etiquette of the list is that everything goes in public, so
>that solutions can be shared and are searchable.
>
>The other side of it is that everyone is volunteering their own
>time, so discussions in public benefit everyone, whereas private 
>discussions are just unpaid consulting.
>
>
>-dsr-


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Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps

2024-05-30 Thread eben

On 5/30/24 20:08, mick.crane wrote:

On 2024-05-29 15:07, Carter Zhang wrote:

Are there any free apps for GNU/Linux and Android to share files over
LAN? There have already been LocalSend, LanXchange, LANDrop,
NitroShare, Sharik, Warpinator, TrebleShot, but they have respective
problems.


  I don't know if sshfs would have issues with more than one connection.


You mean two different machines using sshfs to the same server?  I don't see
why it would.  It's vanilla SSH to the outside world and ssh works just fine
when multiple users log in.

--
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That nothing comes from violence and nothing ever could
Fr all thse born bneath an angry star / Lest we frget hw fragile we are
   -- Sting, "Fragile" from _... Nothing Like the Sun_



Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps

2024-05-30 Thread mick.crane

On 2024-05-29 15:07, Carter Zhang wrote:

Are there any free apps for GNU/Linux and Android to share files over
LAN? There have already been LocalSend, LanXchange, LANDrop,
NitroShare, Sharik, Warpinator, TrebleShot, but they have respective
problems.


 I don't know if sshfs would have issues with more than one connection.
mick



Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps

2024-05-30 Thread Richard
A client that by your own words barely works, while fully functional
alternatives have been available for many years already. So what's your
point?

Am Do., 30. Mai 2024 um 14:23 Uhr schrieb Anssi Saari <
anssi.sa...@debian-user.mail.kapsi.fi>:

>
> Wow. I already mentioned an open source client? What's your point?
>
>


Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps

2024-05-30 Thread Anssi Saari
Richard  writes:

> There have already been many answers. And since it's highly unlikely any 
> third party will include support for such a
> closed down system, you might want to look at them. At least I don't think 
> Google will suddenly open source Nearby Share
> for everyone to write clients for it.

Wow. I already mentioned an open source client? What's your point?



Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps

2024-05-30 Thread Richard
There have already been many answers. And since it's highly unlikely any
third party will include support for such a closed down system, you might
want to look at them. At least I don't think Google will suddenly open
source Nearby Share for everyone to write clients for it.

Am Do., 30. Mai 2024 um 11:00 Uhr schrieb Anssi Saari <
anssi.sa...@debian-user.mail.kapsi.fi>:

> I'd like to know too, assuming you're asking for transferring files
> between Android and Linux.
>
> I'd like Quick Share support in Linux as it's built into Android and
> available for Windows. Someone has an early version at
> https://github.com/Martichou/rquickshare but I only got it working one
> way, Linux PC to phone and even that needed disabling the firewall on
> the PC. But maybe that'll improve.
>
>


Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps

2024-05-30 Thread Anssi Saari
Carter Zhang  writes:

> Are there any free apps for GNU/Linux and Android to share files over LAN? 
> There have already been LocalSend, LanXchange,
> LANDrop, NitroShare, Sharik, Warpinator, TrebleShot, but they have respective 
> problems. 

I'd like to know too, assuming you're asking for transferring files
between Android and Linux.

I'd like Quick Share support in Linux as it's built into Android and
available for Windows. Someone has an early version at
https://github.com/Martichou/rquickshare but I only got it working one
way, Linux PC to phone and even that needed disabling the firewall on
the PC. But maybe that'll improve.



Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps

2024-05-29 Thread gene heskett

On 5/29/24 13:34, Monte Milanuk wrote:

SyncThing

On 5/29/24 07:07, Carter Zhang wrote:
Are there any free apps for GNU/Linux and Android to share files over 
LAN? There have already been LocalSend, LanXchange, LANDrop, 
NitroShare, Sharik, Warpinator, TrebleShot, but they have respective 
problems.




So does sshfs, but  its free, and it just works. I regularly move <1 to 
60 gigabyte gcode files to my printers with it. The occasional 30 to 60 
gigger gets moved to a pi clone over cat5-6 in 2 to 4 seconds.  I don't 
know why folks think they have to have an ap for something so simple as 
moving a file. sshfs mounts the target device as if its a storage disk. 
But since its ssh based, its also encrypted, making it relatively safe 
from wifi snoopers.  rsync operates much the same but uses checksums to 
verify the copy is verbatum.


Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis



Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps

2024-05-29 Thread Andy Smith
Hi,

On Wed, May 29, 2024 at 10:07:17PM +0800, Carter Zhang wrote:
> Are there any free apps for GNU/Linux and Android to share files
> over LAN? There have already been LocalSend, LanXchange, LANDrop,
> NitroShare, Sharik, Warpinator, TrebleShot, but they have
> respective problems. 

Your post is woefully short of details.

Which of the above did you like best, despite it not being
sufficient? What was deficient about it?

No one can easily answer your question without knowing what your
requirements are and what problems you faced with the above
solutions.

Depending on what your needs are, the answer is possibly, "not that
we know of."

Thanks,
Andy

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Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps

2024-05-29 Thread Monte Milanuk



On 5/29/24 07:58, Curt wrote:

I travel to https://pairdrop.net/ on both devices on the LAN for
the occasional file transfer. There is an Android app, although you
don't need one (merely a browser).



Thanks for that... I may have to set that up with my wife's iPhone.  
Getting her to use SyncThing - or any app outside the Apple ecosystem - 
has been a struggle.  This should make it easier for us to share the 
occasional photo or video!




Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps

2024-05-29 Thread Monte Milanuk

SyncThing

On 5/29/24 07:07, Carter Zhang wrote:
Are there any free apps for GNU/Linux and Android to share files over 
LAN? There have already been LocalSend, LanXchange, LANDrop, 
NitroShare, Sharik, Warpinator, TrebleShot, but they have respective 
problems.




Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps

2024-05-29 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, 29 May 2024 22:07:17 +0800
Carter Zhang  wrote:

> but they have respective problems.

We can't advise you very well if we don't know what you think their
respective problems are.

A more important question: What problem would you like to solve?

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Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps

2024-05-29 Thread Curt
On 2024-05-29, Carter Zhang  wrote:
>
> Are there any free apps for GNU/Linux and Android to share files over LAN?
> There have already been LocalSend, LanXchange, LANDrop, NitroShare, Sharik
>  Warpinator, TrebleShot, but they have respective problems=2E 

I just go to https://pairdrop.net/ on the both devices on the land for
the occasional file transfer.

Newsgroups: gmane.linux.debian.user
From: Curt 
Subject: Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps
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Followup-To: 

On 2024-05-29, Carter Zhang  wrote:
>
> Are there any free apps for GNU/Linux and Android to share files over
> LAN?
> There have already been LocalSend, LanXchange, LANDrop, NitroShare,
> Sharik
>  Warpinator, TrebleShot, but they have respective problems=2E 

I travel to https://pairdrop.net/ on both devices on the LAN for
the occasional file transfer. There is an Android app, although you
don't need one (merely a browser).

https://github.com/schlagmichdoch/pairdrop/blob/master/docs/faq.md









Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps

2024-05-29 Thread Richard
KDE connect? That has clients for many systems.

But the question is, what's the issue with the existing solutions? It's
quite a useless task to recommend file transfer apps when they all have the
same issue you try to avoid.

Richard


Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps

2024-05-29 Thread Hans
rsync - which is biderectional and uses checksums for correct transfer.

Best

Hans





Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps

2024-05-29 Thread eben

On 5/29/24 10:07, Carter Zhang wrote:

Are there any free apps for GNU/Linux and Android to share files over LAN? 
There have already been LocalSend, LanXchange, LANDrop, NitroShare, Sharik, 
Warpinator, TrebleShot, but they have respective problems.


scp / sshd
nc, but you don't get authentication _or_ encryption

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that you are made of meat. After a while it will perhaps kill you.
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Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps

2024-05-29 Thread Dan Ritter
Carter Zhang wrote: 
> Are there any free apps for GNU/Linux and Android to share files over LAN? 
> There have already been LocalSend, LanXchange, LANDrop, NitroShare, Sharik, 
> Warpinator, TrebleShot, but they have respective problems. 


On the Debian side, options include:

- SFTP and SCP via SSH
- SMB via samba
- NFS v3 and v4
- various DAV implementations
- SyncThing
- and, although the server is not currently packaged, NextCloud
is reasonably easy to get up and running on Debian stable.

All of these have clients of various kinds on Android and other
systems.

-dsr-