Re: XFree86-4.0 screen resolution missmatched with monitor viewing area
Quoting John Foster ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > The virtual resolution is by default set to the maximum resolution > > for the display (I think). In the display section add the line: > > > > Virtual 1024 768 > > > > You might not be able to switch to a larger display, however. See > > man XF86Config. > That did it! It is not exactly what I wanted to achieve, but at least > it puts me back to where I was before the upgrade. But isn't this all that's happened (where I've used 1152 864 and a 3.3.6 server): (**) Mach64: Mode "1280x1024": mode clock = 135.000 (--) Mach64: Resolution 1280x1024 too large for virtual 1152x864 (--) Mach64: Removing mode "1280x1024" from list of valid modes. (**) Mach64: Mode "1152x864": mode clock = 110.000 (**) Mach64: Mode "1024x768": mode clock = 85.000 (**) Mach64: Virtual resolution: 1152x864 (--) Mach64: Video RAM: 2048k In other words, you could have merely removed your highest resolution from the list in /etc/X11/XF86Config, making sure of course that the resolution you want to first appear is first in the list. > Now if I can just > figure out how to coordinate a change in resolution with a corresponding > change in virtual screen size. Maybe a virtual display with each > resolution. Any ideas? BTW I did see the reference in the docs, but > did not understand how they applied. The examples were not clear.:-( A reference to your reference would help. I'm not going to plough through all the X docs on the off chance that I see something that I think might be what you don't understand! Cheers, -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 1908 653 739 Fax: +44 1908 655 151 Snail: David Wright, Earth Science Dept., Milton Keynes, England, MK7 6AA Disclaimer: These addresses are only for reaching me, and do not signify official stationery. Views expressed here are either my own or plagiarised.
Re: XFree86-4.0 screen resolution missmatched with monitor viewing area
On 8 Feb, John Foster wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> The virtual resolution is by default set to the maximum resolution >> for the display (I think). In the display section add the line: >> >> Virtual 1024 768 >> >> You might not be able to switch to a larger display, however. See >> man XF86Config. >> >> -Chris > -REPLY--- > That did it! It is not exactly what I wanted to achieve, but at least > it puts me back to where I was before the upgrade. Now if I can just > figure out how to coordinate a change in resolution with a corresponding > change in virtual screen size. Maybe a virtual display with each > resolution. Any ideas? BTW I did see the reference in the docs, but > did not understand how they applied. The examples were not clear.:-( I haven't got been able to do that, either. Anyone else know how to? -Chris | Christopher Judd, Ph. D. | | Research Scientist | | NYS Dept. of Health [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Wadsworth Center - ESP | | P. O. Box 509518 486-7829 | | Albany, NY 12201-0509 |
Re: XFree86-4.0 screen resolution missmatched with monitor viewing area
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > The virtual resolution is by default set to the maximum resolution > for the display (I think). In the display section add the line: > > Virtual 1024 768 > > You might not be able to switch to a larger display, however. See > man XF86Config. > > -Chris -REPLY--- That did it! It is not exactly what I wanted to achieve, but at least it puts me back to where I was before the upgrade. Now if I can just figure out how to coordinate a change in resolution with a corresponding change in virtual screen size. Maybe a virtual display with each resolution. Any ideas? BTW I did see the reference in the docs, but did not understand how they applied. The examples were not clear.:-( -- John Foster
Re: XFree86-4.0 screen resolution missmatched with monitor viewing area
On 7 Feb, John Foster wrote: > Damon Muller wrote: >> While I don't know anything much about X4 modelines, and for myself >> using the monitor's onscreen display was enough to fix it up, for your >> problem of starting in the wrong resolution there is an easy fix. >> >> Under section `screen', go to the line that represents the colour depth >> that you're using (which it probably the number next to `DefaultDepth' >> in that same section. Just put the prefered resolution at the start of >> the line, and Bob's your uncle. >> >> cheers, >> >> damon > > Thanks. I already did that. I'm a perfectionist and prefer to use > 1024x768 but the virtual screen is larger than the viewing area by about > 40%. In 1280x1024 they match but my eyesight is too poor for that > resolution without oversizing everything ...fonts @48, icons @ 120x120. > Other ideas? The virtual resolution is by default set to the maximum resolution for the display (I think). In the display section add the line: Virtual 1024 768 You might not be able to switch to a larger display, however. See man XF86Config. -Chris | Christopher Judd, Ph. D. | | Research Scientist | | NYS Dept. of Health [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Wadsworth Center - ESP | | P. O. Box 509518 486-7829 | | Albany, NY 12201-0509 |
Re: XFree86-4.0 screen resolution missmatched with monitor viewing area
I think I misunderstood your previous posting where you said "In the past I have been able to correct this" so I assumed you were trying to do something that was possible in V3. In fact, you didn't correct it, you just lived with it. > Thanks. I already did that. I'm a perfectionist and prefer to use > 1024x768 but the virtual screen is larger than the viewing area by about > 40%. In 1280x1024 they match but my eyesight is too poor for that > resolution without oversizing everything ...fonts @48, icons @ 120x120. > Other ideas? AFAICT the virtual screen has always been the same size. It slides around so that you can access all points on it. I don't think that has changed between V3 and V4. Viewport just sets the size of the virtual screen, with 0 0 copying the values from the maximum resolution. Have you tried messing with those values (e.g. setting them smaller than max res.); not that I'm saying this works. Cheers, -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 1908 653 739 Fax: +44 1908 655 151 Snail: David Wright, Earth Science Dept., Milton Keynes, England, MK7 6AA Disclaimer: These addresses are only for reaching me, and do not signify official stationery. Views expressed here are either my own or plagiarised.
Re: XFree86-4.0 screen resolution missmatched with monitor viewing area
Damon Muller wrote: > While I don't know anything much about X4 modelines, and for myself > using the monitor's onscreen display was enough to fix it up, for your > problem of starting in the wrong resolution there is an easy fix. > > Under section `screen', go to the line that represents the colour depth > that you're using (which it probably the number next to `DefaultDepth' > in that same section. Just put the prefered resolution at the start of > the line, and Bob's your uncle. > > cheers, > > damon Thanks. I already did that. I'm a perfectionist and prefer to use 1024x768 but the virtual screen is larger than the viewing area by about 40%. In 1280x1024 they match but my eyesight is too poor for that resolution without oversizing everything ...fonts @48, icons @ 120x120. Other ideas? -- John Foster
Re: XFree86-4.0 screen resolution missmatched with monitor viewing area
Quoth John Foster, > I recently upgraded to a full woody/testing installation. After a few > hours of reading & experimenting with "xf86configure" I got the new > XFree86 4.0 server to work well. I still have 1 problem. The > resolutions that are accepted on my monitor are "640x480" "800x600" > "1024x768" "1280x1024" 24bpp . When the server runs XF86Config-4; it > automatically loads the lower resolution first. I then have to manually > (CTRL+ALT +/-) change the resolutions. The problem is that when I select While I don't know anything much about X4 modelines, and for myself using the monitor's onscreen display was enough to fix it up, for your problem of starting in the wrong resolution there is an easy fix. Under section `screen', go to the line that represents the colour depth that you're using (which it probably the number next to `DefaultDepth' in that same section. Just put the prefered resolution at the start of the line, and Bob's your uncle. cheers, damon -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches Criminologist/Linux Geek | As my head fell in the basket, http://killfilter.com | And was everybody dancing on the casket... PGP (GnuPG): A136E829 | - TBMG, "Dead"
Re: XFree86-4.0 screen resolution missmatched with monitor viewing area
Quoting John Foster ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > I recently upgraded to a full woody/testing installation. After a few > hours of reading & experimenting with "xf86configure" I got the new > XFree86 4.0 server to work well. I still have 1 problem. The > resolutions that are accepted on my monitor are "640x480" "800x600" > "1024x768" "1280x1024" 24bpp . When the server runs XF86Config-4; it > automatically loads the lower resolution first. I then have to manually > (CTRL+ALT +/-) change the resolutions. The problem is that when I select > the one I want...the virtual screen/desktop is diffetent that the actual > edge of the monitor. In fact none of these modes match the screen. In > the past I have been able to correct this by selecting the startup > default with XF86Setup and using only that resolution. That does not > seem to work with "xf86config" or "XFree86 -configure" & xf86cfg > completely craps out. I think there is an option called viewport that > nees to be set, but the docs do not cover it well enough to try it. Any > Suggestions. It would be really cool to be able to switch screen > resolutions & have them all fit the actual 13.7" viewable area. I have > all of the monitor specs and the video card specs as well. I suspect that for most people this is a breeze. I just use the monitor controls to put the picture where I want it for each resolution. The monitor remembers each setting because it's in a different mode (i.e. it recognises the scan frequencies and fishes out the correct settings from an internal table). With old-fashioned monitors that can't do that, I set the controls using my preferred resolution, then switch to the other one (this would be just 800x600 to 640x480) and use xvidtune to scale the new picture. Then I copy the modeline from xvidtune into the XF86Config file at the appropriate place. (Thank goodness I no longer use those old monitors for X). The only problem is: I don't know how XFree86 4 does modelines. It may be different from 3. Cheers, -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 1908 653 739 Fax: +44 1908 655 151 Snail: David Wright, Earth Science Dept., Milton Keynes, England, MK7 6AA Disclaimer: These addresses are only for reaching me, and do not signify official stationery. Views expressed here are either my own or plagiarised.
