Re: help please

[Michael Fothergill]

On 22 April 2017 at 10:32, CoreyL  wrote:

> this is my account and yet someone else is controlling it. I know for a
> fact .
>
> coreylendo
>

​What sort of account are you referring to (e.g. bank account?)

Regards

MF​

Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver

[Helmut Wollmersdorfer]

Am 03.03.2013 um 22:20 schrieb Joe:


Network manager is not actually necessary to do anything, and until
recently it had a rather poor reputation, usually being known as  
Notwork

Manager. It's quite big and overbearing, and has many plug-ins, for
OpenVPN, wi-fi, 3G dongles and other things. It does seem to work  
these

days, or at least the Sid version does. I don't have it on my
workstation, which is a purely wired-Ethernet machine, but both my
laptop and netbook have it.


In my standard installation [1] of squeeze + Gnome WiFi and 3G works  
out of the box.


[1] Bootet netinstall from WinXP, DHCP over ethernet-cable. Booting  
from Win was convenient, because this netbook (Acer one) has no CD- 
drive, and I had no empty USB stick available.


Helmut Wollmersdorfer


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Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver

[Darac Marjal]

On Tue, Mar 05, 2013 at 06:49:34PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
 On Sun, Mar 03, 2013 at 11:23:49PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
  From the directory that the deb is in:
  dpkg -i wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_all.deb
  
  If it complains that there are missing dependencies, curse, wish you had 
  used 
  aptitude, and install them. 
 
 Get the dependencies the same way you got
 wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_all.deb rinse and repeat
 
 Watch out for circular dependencies, for that you need
 
 dpkg -i package1.deb package2.deb where package1 and package2 are the
 two packages involved. Adjust if necessary for more than two packages
 involved.

It's a lot easier to do this with apt-zip.



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Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver

[Chris Bannister]

On Tue, Mar 05, 2013 at 10:17:11AM +, Darac Marjal wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 05, 2013 at 06:49:34PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
  On Sun, Mar 03, 2013 at 11:23:49PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
   From the directory that the deb is in:
   dpkg -i wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_all.deb
   
   If it complains that there are missing dependencies, curse, wish you had 
   used 
   aptitude, and install them. 
  
  Get the dependencies the same way you got
  wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_all.deb rinse and repeat
  
  Watch out for circular dependencies, for that you need
  
  dpkg -i package1.deb package2.deb where package1 and package2 are the
  two packages involved. Adjust if necessary for more than two packages
  involved.
 
 It's a lot easier to do this with apt-zip.

or apt-offline. But in this case, for the sake of half a dozen or so
packages it might be too much bother.

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Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver

[lina]

I have not went through all the replies.

Regardless those questions, one basic question is that

What is your wireless card.

try $ lspci

If your laptop is not so new, basically it has very well support.
check the kernel support first. If none, then look for the further
solutions.


On Monday 04,March,2013 03:53 AM, Mark Filipak wrote:
 My objective:
 Install WiFi driver into Debian+LXDE so that I can connect to the Internet.
 
 My problem:
 All the help I can find covers installing packages over the Internet.
 But I can't install packages over the Internet because I can't reach the
 Internet until I've installed the driver (not part of Debian because
 it's non-free) and a Network Manager (apparently, not part of
 Debian+LXDE ...or at least I can't find it under System Tools ...I think
 that's what the menu item is named).
 
 Packages I have:
 aptitude_0.6.3-3.2+squeeze1_amd64.deb// Debian - Package Manager
 firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb   // Debian - WiFi Drivers
 synaptic_0.70~pre1+b1_amd64.deb  // Debian - Package Manager
 wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_all.deb// Debian (all but Gnome) -
 Network Manager
 wireless-tools_30~pre9-5_amd64.deb   // Debian - WiFi Tools
 
 Documentation I have:
 (copied off the Internet and saved where I can get to them when I'm in
 Debian+LXDE...)
 How to use a WiFi interface (http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse)
 Intel PRO-Wireless 3945 and WiFi Link 4965 devices
 (http://wiki.debian.org/iwlegacy)
 WiFi Ad-hoc Network (http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/AdHoc)
 iwconfig (http://wiki.debian.org/iwconfig)
 iwconfig man page as a text file.
 
 BTW, before I go on, I already tried opening a file manager (in
 Debian+LXDE) and simply double-clicking one of the .deb files. Nothing
 happened.
 
 I don't know what to do or what I'll need once I'm booted back into
 Debian+LXDE ...remember: I won't have Internet. Assuming that I'll need
 to know how to run a Package Manager, I've looked at the following
 (http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/index.en.html#contents):
 
 (Before listing the contents of the appropriate section of debian-faq
 below, I need to say that I really, really tried to read this stuff. My
 eyes glazed over. I looked for something like how to install a deb
 binary but couldn't find it. As I read the details of what I couldn't
 relate to and what I didn't understand and what I don't really care
 about - God created the Earth in 6 days so that we could argue over it
 forever after - I had my hands full simply trying to stay awake. Forgive
 me but I don't want to know the excruciating details of Linux and how it
 works. I'm not going to stand back after a year of study saying, My,
 that's wonderful!. I... don't... care. I'm here to use Linux, not to
 praise it. My objective is to copy stuff I *might* need for offline use.)
 
 7 Basics of the Debian package management system
 7.1 What is a Debian package?
 7.2 What is the format of a Debian binary package?
 7.3 Why are Debian package file names so long?
 7.4 What is a Debian control file?
 7.5 What is a Debian conffile?
 7.6 What is a Debian preinst, postinst, prerm, and postrm script?
 7.7 What is an Essential, Required, Important, Standard, Optional, or
 Extra package?
 7.8 What is a Virtual Package?
 7.9 What is meant by saying that a package Depends, Recommends,
 Suggests, Conflicts, Replaces, Breaks or Provides another package?
 7.10 What is meant by Pre-Depends?
 7.11 What is meant by unknown, install, remove, purge and hold in the
 package status?
 7.12 How do I put a package on hold?
 7.13 How do I install a source package?
 7.14 How do I build binary packages from a source package?
 7.15 How do I create Debian packages myself?
 8 The Debian package management tools
 8.1 What programs does Debian provide for managing its packages?
 8.1.1 dpkg
 8.1.2 APT
 8.1.3 aptitude
 8.1.4 synaptic
 8.1.5 tasksel
 8.1.6 Other package management tools
 8.2 Debian claims to be able to update a running program; how is this
 accomplished?
 8.3 How can I tell what packages are already installed on a Debian system?
 8.4 How to display the files of a package installed?
 8.5 How can I find out what package produced a particular file?
 8.6 Why doesn't get `foo-data' removed when I uninstall `foo'? How do I
 make sure old unused library-packages get purged?
 9 Keeping your Debian system up-to-date
 9.1 How can I keep my Debian system current?
 9.1.1 aptitude
 9.1.2 apt-get, dselect and apt-cdrom
 9.1.3 aptitude
 9.1.4 mirror
 9.1.5 dpkg-mountable
 9.2 Must I go into single user mode in order to upgrade a package?
 9.3 Do I have to keep all those .deb archive files on my disk?
 9.4 How can I keep a log of the packages I added to the system? I'd like
 to know when which package upgrades and removals have occured!
 9.5 Can I automatically update the system?
 9.6 I have several machines how can I download the updates only one time?
 
 You guys know the stuff above. I'd be willing to *try* to read it if you

Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver

[Roman V.Leon.]

On 04.03.2013 03:04, Mark Filipak wrote:

On 2013/3/3 4:34 PM, Roman V.Leon. wrote:
-big snip-

Why do you think you need a special driver?
Please type /sbin/ifconfig -a in your terminal to check whether you
have wlan0 device or not in the list.


mark@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages$
/sbin/ifconfig -a
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:18:8b:dc:30:fd
BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
Interrupt:18

lo Link encap:Local Loopback
inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1
RX packets:24 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:24 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
RX bytes:1696 (1.6 KiB) TX bytes:1696 (1.6 KiB)

pan0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr ba:3e:86:e1:5a:91
BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)

wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:1b:77:80:2d:b9
BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)

Well, 00:1b:77:80:2d:b9 is indeed the WiFi's NIC. So why can't I get to
the Ethernet, and why does everything I see on the Internet (when I'm in
Windows of course) say that I must obtain an Intel 3945ABG driver
because it's non-free? ...Come to me and fall on thy knees, and I will
set thee free!




Hi again Mark,
I'm not sure why all the articles you've found require you a special 
driver(though it can be a serious reason for this). But i think that if 
you have wlan0 interface you do not need anything else on your system. 
There are a lot of software with GUI(NetworkManager, Wicd, ...)which 
could help you to manage your wifi interface, but I think you can read 
about it later when you find some time. To get internet working you can 
use wpa_supplicant tool, it is a CLI tool, but it is very easy. At first 
you should create a config-file with such content:

---
network={
ssid=home
scan_ssid=1
key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
psk=very secret passphrase
}
---
Rename this file as wpa_supplicant.conf. I think that content is more or 
less clear and you can adjust these parameters according your own needs. 
Then you can start your wi-fi card by command:


sudo /sbin/wpa_supplicant -cwpa_supplicant.conf -iwlan0

I think the command is also easy to understand. I hope that after these 
actions you'll get your wifi working till next reboot. Probably you will 
need to assign an IP-address manually to your NIC.


I'd recommend you to read the man pages:
1) man wpa_supplicant
2) man wpa_supplicant.conf
And download an excellent book which you'll find here:
http://debian-handbook.info/
You can read it from time to time when you are in a public transport and 
I think it will be a kind of an eye-opener for you.


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Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver

[Joe]

On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 21:14:32 -0500
Mark Filipak markfilipak.li...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 2013/3/3 8:16 PM, Mr G wrote:
 -snip-
  $ id
 -snip-
  $ sudo updatedb
 -snip-
  $ mlocate firmware-iwlwfi.deb
 -snip-
  $ pwd
 
 Look at the terminal session below
 
 =
 mark@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages$ su
 Password:
 
 root@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages# dpkg
 -i firmware-iwlwifi.deb dpkg: error processing firmware-iwlwifi.deb
 (--install): cannot access archive: No such file or directory
 Errors were encountered while processing:
   firmware-iwlwifi.deb
 
 root@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages# dpkg
 -i firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb Selecting previously
 deselected package firmware-iwlwifi. (Reading database ... 68697
 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking
 firmware-iwlwifi (from firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb) ...
 Setting up firmware-iwlwifi (0.28+squeeze1) ... =
 
 I don't think it's necessary for me to 'mlocate' or 'pwd', do you?
 'firmware-iwlwifi.deb' is not right. It has to be
 'firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb'
 
 This is the first real progress I've made since the installation
 succeeded. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Now, regarding a network
 manager, the terminal session below is from about 2 hours ago. Can
 you help with it?
 
 =
 root@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages# dpkg
 -i wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_all.deb Selecting previously deselected
 package wicd. (Reading database ... 68689 files and directories
 currently installed.) Unpacking wicd (from
 wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_all.deb) ... dpkg: dependency problems
 prevent configuration of wicd: wicd depends on wicd-daemon (=
 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3); however: Package wicd-daemon is not installed.
   wicd depends on wicd-gtk (= 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3) | wicd-curses (=
 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3) | wicd-cli (= 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3) |
 wicd-client; however: Package wicd-gtk is not installed. Package
 wicd-curses is not installed. Package wicd-cli is not installed.
Package wicd-client is not installed.
 dpkg: error processing wicd (--install):
   dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
 Errors were encountered while processing:
   wicd
 =
 
 There are uninstalled dependencies:
 wicd-daemon (= 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3)
 wicd-gtk (= 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3)
 wicd-curses (= 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3)
 wicd-cli (= 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3)
 wicd-client
 
 When I do a google search for 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3 I find lots of
 stuff (too much stuff), including Python - gee, I've written Python
 server code - is that needed for this? Python aside, I don't know
 what to do next, so I'll wait for a push in a particular direction
 (and hope that it's not towards a cliff).
 

No, it means the 1.7 version of each package named. Dependencies are
usually of the form 'needs this or later version', so you don't know
for sure if you don't have those packages at all, or just that your
installed version is too old. Since wicd wasn't installed, the former
is more likely.

This is why we don't use dpkg unless we have to, and at the moment, you
have to. The apt tools all work on complete Debian repositories, and
mostly can work out and load all the dependencies of something you ask
for. dpkg can only install the file you give it, so it just tells you
when there are missing dependencies.

The Debian website can tell you full details of each package, and what
its dependencies are, but it's hard work doing it that way, one file
at a time. Do you still have the install medium, and can you access
that from the Debian system? If so, most of what you want will be on
there. 

The most important file in the apt system is /etc/apt/sources.list. It
should contain lines showing which repositories are in use, mostly in
pairs, beginning 'deb' and 'deb-src' for compiled and source code
packages. At the top of the list should be two commented lines that
refer to the installation medium, they get commented out when the
installation is complete, and working Internet repositories added. Try
uncommenting those two lines, plugging in the install medium and seeing
if the apt tools give you what you need. If it was a CD, there would be
no doubt, but the uncertainties of USB mounting and naming may still
give you a bit of trouble.

There was once just a Debian CD1, which contained nearly everything a
standard installation would need, but as software got bigger, and fewer
people wanted Gnome or KDE, the ISOs have changed in nature. So I'm not
certain that your installation medium does contain wicd and its
dependencies, but that is the way I would bet.

*  *  *

OK, I've looked, wicd-daemon (server) and wicd-gtk (the GUI client) are
on the CD image, and they are the only actual dependencies (wicd is
itself a virtual package, containing no code itself, and brings in the
daemon and one of the clients, -gtk in this case as -cli and -curses
aren't on the 

Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver

[João Luis Meloni Assirati]

Em 04-03-2013 05:39, Roman V.Leon. escreveu:

On 04.03.2013 03:04, Mark Filipak wrote:

On 2013/3/3 4:34 PM, Roman V.Leon. wrote:
-big snip-

Why do you think you need a special driver?
Please type /sbin/ifconfig -a in your terminal to check whether you
have wlan0 device or not in the list.


mark@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages$
/sbin/ifconfig -a
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:18:8b:dc:30:fd
BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
Interrupt:18

lo Link encap:Local Loopback
inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1
RX packets:24 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:24 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
RX bytes:1696 (1.6 KiB) TX bytes:1696 (1.6 KiB)

pan0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr ba:3e:86:e1:5a:91
BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)

wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:1b:77:80:2d:b9
BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)

Well, 00:1b:77:80:2d:b9 is indeed the WiFi's NIC. So why can't I get to
the Ethernet, and why does everything I see on the Internet (when I'm in
Windows of course) say that I must obtain an Intel 3945ABG driver
because it's non-free? ...Come to me and fall on thy knees, and I will
set thee free!




Hi again Mark,
I'm not sure why all the articles you've found require you a special 
driver(though it can be a serious reason for this). But i think that 
if you have wlan0 interface you do not need anything else on your 
system. There are a lot of software with GUI(NetworkManager, Wicd, 
...)which could help you to manage your wifi interface, but I think 
you can read about it later when you find some time. To get internet 
working you can use wpa_supplicant tool, it is a CLI tool, but it is 
very easy. At first you should create a config-file with such content:

---
network={
ssid=home
scan_ssid=1
key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
psk=very secret passphrase
}
---
Rename this file as wpa_supplicant.conf. I think that content is more 
or less clear and you can adjust these parameters according your own 
needs. Then you can start your wi-fi card by command:


sudo /sbin/wpa_supplicant -cwpa_supplicant.conf -iwlan0

I think the command is also easy to understand. I hope that after 
these actions you'll get your wifi working till next reboot. Probably 
you will need to assign an IP-address manually to your NIC.


I'd recommend you to read the man pages:
1) man wpa_supplicant
2) man wpa_supplicant.conf
And download an excellent book which you'll find here:
http://debian-handbook.info/
You can read it from time to time when you are in a public transport 
and I think it will be a kind of an eye-opener for you.




Just to be recorded on the list:

There is no evidence that wireless did not work out of the box. Probably 
the firmware package was not required. The network interface wlan0 was 
already present and only a GUI for the wireless connection was missing. 
The need to install a GUI for wireless network was probably due to the 
user option to a non-standard desktop (LXDE) instead of the better 
supported and more featureful Gnome and KDE. However, wireless 
configuration was possible out of the box with the standard text mode 
utility wpa_supplicant.



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Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver

[Chris Bannister]

On Sun, Mar 03, 2013 at 11:23:49PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
 From the directory that the deb is in:
 dpkg -i wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_all.deb
 
 If it complains that there are missing dependencies, curse, wish you had used 
 aptitude, and install them. 

Get the dependencies the same way you got
wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_all.deb rinse and repeat

Watch out for circular dependencies, for that you need

dpkg -i package1.deb package2.deb where package1 and package2 are the
two packages involved. Adjust if necessary for more than two packages
involved.

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who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the 
oppressing. --- Malcolm X


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Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver

[Chris Bannister]

On Sun, Mar 03, 2013 at 02:53:37PM -0500, Mark Filipak wrote:
 My objective:
 Install WiFi driver into Debian+LXDE so that I can connect to the Internet.

To be more exact, the wifi driver is installed so the kernel can talk to
the wireless hardware. IOW, the procedure is the same whether you have
Gnome, XFCE, LXDE, KDE or even no X environment at all.


 My problem:
 All the help I can find covers installing packages over the Internet.

First step:
Determine the chipset of your wireless card, then you'll be able to
determine the driver necessary so the kernel can talk to that chipset.

There are various ways, but the usual way which I use is the lspci
command:

e.g. 
lspci -k

Please don't post the whole output, obviously information about your
graphics chipset, or your northbridge chipset, is not relevant to this
issue.

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Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver

[Chris Bannister]

On Sun, Mar 03, 2013 at 07:06:13PM -0500, Mark Filipak wrote:
 I tried to install  wicd.
[...] 
 I see that there are uninstalled dependencies:
 wicd-daemon (= 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3)
 wicd-gtk (= 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3)
 wicd-curses (= 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3)
 wicd-cli (= 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3)
 wicd-client
 
 I don't know what to do, so I'll wait for some nice person to give me
 a push in a particular direction (and hope that it's not towards a
 cliff).

The best way, IMHO, is visit:
http://packages.debian.org/packagename

e.g. 
http://packages.debian.org/wicd-daemon

Just remember to choose/click the stable/squeeze choice(s)

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Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver

[Joe]

On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 14:53:37 -0500
Mark Filipak markfilipak.li...@gmail.com wrote:

 My objective:
 Install WiFi driver into Debian+LXDE so that I can connect to the
 Internet.
 
 My problem:
 All the help I can find covers installing packages over the Internet.
 But I can't install packages over the Internet because I can't reach
 the Internet until I've installed the driver (not part of Debian
 because it's non-free) and a Network Manager (apparently, not part of
 Debian+LXDE ...or at least I can't find it under System Tools ...I
 think that's what the menu item is named).
 
Network manager is not actually necessary to do anything, and until
recently it had a rather poor reputation, usually being known as Notwork
Manager. It's quite big and overbearing, and has many plug-ins, for
OpenVPN, wi-fi, 3G dongles and other things. It does seem to work these
days, or at least the Sid version does. I don't have it on my
workstation, which is a purely wired-Ethernet machine, but both my
laptop and netbook have it.

 Packages I have:
 aptitude_0.6.3-3.2+squeeze1_amd64.deb// Debian - Package Manager
 firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb   // Debian - WiFi Drivers
 synaptic_0.70~pre1+b1_amd64.deb  // Debian - Package Manager
 wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_all.deb// Debian (all but Gnome) -
 Network Manager wireless-tools_30~pre9-5_amd64.deb   // Debian -
 WiFi Tools
 
 Documentation I have:
 (copied off the Internet and saved where I can get to them when I'm
 in Debian+LXDE...) How to use a WiFi
 interface (http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse) Intel PRO-Wireless
 3945 and WiFi Link 4965 devices (http://wiki.debian.org/iwlegacy)
 WiFi Ad-hoc Network (http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/AdHoc)
 iwconfig (http://wiki.debian.org/iwconfig) iwconfig man page as a
 text file.
 
 BTW, before I go on, I already tried opening a file manager (in
 Debian+LXDE) and simply double-clicking one of the .deb files.
 Nothing happened.
 
There are packages which will install .deb files in this way, having
set up the right file association, but they are not installed by default
in LXDE. Anyway, the missing link here is that you use dpkg:

dpkg -i full-name-of-.deb-file

Assuming you have the right driver, you shouldn't have a problem. I've
never used wicd, but no doubt someone else will tell you if you need to
do anything with it. I'm not a big wireless fan. Network Manager Just
Works, or at least it does for me.

 I don't know what to do or what I'll need once I'm booted back into
 Debian+LXDE ...remember: I won't have Internet. Assuming that I'll
 need to know how to run a Package Manager, I've looked at the
 following
 (http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/index.en.html#contents):

When you have Net access, there's a vast number of apt-get and aptitude
tutorials, or Synaptic is fairly intuitive to use without much help.

 
 (Before listing the contents of the appropriate section of debian-faq
 below, I need to say that I really, really tried to read this stuff.
 My eyes glazed over.

You must know, from long experience, that theory is almost useless
until you've done a bit of practice, by rote if necessary.

 
 You guys know the stuff above. I'd be willing to *try* to read it if
 you think I'll need it, 

No. I don't know most of that and, with three somewhat different Sid
installations, I probably do more upgrades than most people. I look
things up as and when I need them. I can't say offhand how to export an
Exchange mailbox, either, but I know how to find out how to do it, and
I have done it a few times.

Aptitude and apt-get will be installed by default, they both drive dpkg
which is the low-level package manager and is part of the Debian core.
Synaptic is a GUI program and I use it when Sid has issues with
upgrades, as it does occasionally, I find it faster than aptitude in
identifying things that are currently uninstallable. Some people never
use it, and my server doesn't have a GUI, so I obviously don't use it
there. Debian Stable is much better-behaved than Sid.

All three apt tools will install everything in the repositories they are
configured for, you only need dpkg for .deb files obtained elsewhere. I
use it for that maybe twice a year. A lot of Linux software has a .deb
available even if Debian has not yet included it in a distribution.

dpkg does have many other uses, but not for the beginner. Among other
things, it will pretty much copy a Debian installation, complete with
all software installed from the repositories. You can migrate from 32
bit to 64 bit hardware that way. Let's see you do that with Windows.

There is also a GUI Update Manager, but either apt-get or aptitude will
do updates from the command line with minimal effort.

 However, one thing's for certain: If I
 don't succeed with this, a year from now I will not be running Linux.

You think we care? It will be your loss.

You do realise, yet again, you are in an unusual situation? I can't
remember ever being stuck with a single 

Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver

[Roman V.Leon.]

On 03.03.2013 23:53, Mark Filipak wrote:

My objective:
Install WiFi driver into Debian+LXDE so that I can connect to the Internet.

My problem:
All the help I can find covers installing packages over the Internet.
But I can't install packages over the Internet because I can't reach the
Internet until I've installed the driver (not part of Debian because
it's non-free) and a Network Manager (apparently, not part of
Debian+LXDE ...or at least I can't find it under System Tools ...I think
that's what the menu item is named).

Packages I have:
aptitude_0.6.3-3.2+squeeze1_amd64.deb // Debian - Package Manager
firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb // Debian - WiFi Drivers
synaptic_0.70~pre1+b1_amd64.deb // Debian - Package Manager
wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_all.deb // Debian (all but Gnome) - Network
Manager
wireless-tools_30~pre9-5_amd64.deb // Debian - WiFi Tools

Documentation I have:
(copied off the Internet and saved where I can get to them when I'm in
Debian+LXDE...)
How to use a WiFi interface (http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse)
Intel PRO-Wireless 3945 and WiFi Link 4965 devices
(http://wiki.debian.org/iwlegacy)
WiFi Ad-hoc Network (http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/AdHoc)
iwconfig (http://wiki.debian.org/iwconfig)
iwconfig man page as a text file.

BTW, before I go on, I already tried opening a file manager (in
Debian+LXDE) and simply double-clicking one of the .deb files. Nothing
happened.

I don't know what to do or what I'll need once I'm booted back into
Debian+LXDE ...remember: I won't have Internet. Assuming that I'll need
to know how to run a Package Manager, I've looked at the following
(http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/index.en.html#contents):

(Before listing the contents of the appropriate section of debian-faq
below, I need to say that I really, really tried to read this stuff. My
eyes glazed over. I looked for something like how to install a deb
binary but couldn't find it. As I read the details of what I couldn't
relate to and what I didn't understand and what I don't really care
about - God created the Earth in 6 days so that we could argue over it
forever after - I had my hands full simply trying to stay awake. Forgive
me but I don't want to know the excruciating details of Linux and how it
works. I'm not going to stand back after a year of study saying, My,
that's wonderful!. I... don't... care. I'm here to use Linux, not to
praise it. My objective is to copy stuff I *might* need for offline use.)

7 Basics of the Debian package management system
7.1 What is a Debian package?
7.2 What is the format of a Debian binary package?
7.3 Why are Debian package file names so long?
7.4 What is a Debian control file?
7.5 What is a Debian conffile?
7.6 What is a Debian preinst, postinst, prerm, and postrm script?
7.7 What is an Essential, Required, Important, Standard, Optional, or
Extra package?
7.8 What is a Virtual Package?
7.9 What is meant by saying that a package Depends, Recommends,
Suggests, Conflicts, Replaces, Breaks or Provides another package?
7.10 What is meant by Pre-Depends?
7.11 What is meant by unknown, install, remove, purge and hold in the
package status?
7.12 How do I put a package on hold?
7.13 How do I install a source package?
7.14 How do I build binary packages from a source package?
7.15 How do I create Debian packages myself?
8 The Debian package management tools
8.1 What programs does Debian provide for managing its packages?
8.1.1 dpkg
8.1.2 APT
8.1.3 aptitude
8.1.4 synaptic
8.1.5 tasksel
8.1.6 Other package management tools
8.2 Debian claims to be able to update a running program; how is this
accomplished?
8.3 How can I tell what packages are already installed on a Debian system?
8.4 How to display the files of a package installed?
8.5 How can I find out what package produced a particular file?
8.6 Why doesn't get `foo-data' removed when I uninstall `foo'? How do I
make sure old unused library-packages get purged?
9 Keeping your Debian system up-to-date
9.1 How can I keep my Debian system current?
9.1.1 aptitude
9.1.2 apt-get, dselect and apt-cdrom
9.1.3 aptitude
9.1.4 mirror
9.1.5 dpkg-mountable
9.2 Must I go into single user mode in order to upgrade a package?
9.3 Do I have to keep all those .deb archive files on my disk?
9.4 How can I keep a log of the packages I added to the system? I'd like
to know when which package upgrades and removals have occured!
9.5 Can I automatically update the system?
9.6 I have several machines how can I download the updates only one time?

You guys know the stuff above. I'd be willing to *try* to read it if you
think I'll need it, but please remember: all I want is to install the
WiFi driver, firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb. Perhaps a year from
now I'll step back and look at Linux and say, That's wonderful! but I
doubt it. However, one thing's for certain: If I don't succeed with
this, a year from now I will not be running Linux.

Any help gratefully appreciated!

Thanks, and Ciao.



Hi Mark.
Why do you think you need 

Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver

[Mark Filipak]

On 2013/3/3 4:20 PM, Joe wrote:

On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 14:53:37 -0500
Mark Filipak markfilipak.li...@gmail.com wrote:

-snip-

BTW, before I go on, I already tried opening a file manager (in
Debian+LXDE) and simply double-clicking one of the .deb files.
Nothing happened.


There are packages which will install .deb files in this way, having
set up the right file association, but they are not installed by default
in LXDE. Anyway, the missing link here is that you use dpkg:

dpkg -i full-name-of-.deb-file


May I make a few comments here?
First, Thanks Joe!
Second, I just returned from Debian-land. I discovered Aptitude *was* installed. The reason I 
didn't think it was installed was because it wasn't listed in LXDE's System Tools menu. 
But when I opened a terminal session and typed in aptitude, there it was.
Third, the rest of your very good information is getting snipped, but I promise 
that I will use it.

For now, I need help interpreting what I found in Debian-land.

=
mark@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages$ su
Password:
root@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages# aptitude update
Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.6 _Squeeze_ - Official Snapshot amd64 
LIVE/INSTALL Binary 20121214-16:56] squeeze Release.gpg
Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.6 _Squeeze_ - Official Snapshot amd64 
LIVE/INSTALL Binary 20121214-16:56]/ squeeze/main Translation-en
Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.6 _Squeeze_ - Official Snapshot amd64 
LIVE/INSTALL Binary 20121214-16:56]/ squeeze/main Translation-en_US
Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.6 _Squeeze_ - Official Snapshot amd64 
LIVE/INSTALL Binary 20121214-16:56] squeeze Release
Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.6 _Squeeze_ - Official Snapshot amd64 
LIVE/INSTALL Binary 20121214-16:56] squeeze/main amd64 Packages/DiffIndex

root@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages# aptitude 
install wicd
Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched wicd
Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched wicd
No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 0 B will be used.

root@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages# aptitude 
install wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_all.deb
Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched 
wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_all.deb
Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched 
wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_all.deb
No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 0 B will be used.

root@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages#
=

What I did:
The packages resided in a FAT-32 partition that I prepared in Windows.
I opened the FAT-32 (./media/usb8) in a file browser.
I browsed to the folder that contained the packages (./Setup/Debian 6.0.6 
64-bit/Packages).
From the file browser's menu, I opened a terminal window in the current folder.
My session dialog is above.
I copied the session dialog to a text file and saved it in the FAT-32 partition.
I booted Windows and copied the session dialog into this message.

Questions/comments (in no particular order):
Comment: I submitted 'aptitude update' because it was part of the example I 
followed.
Comment: I submitted 'aptitude install wicd' because it was part of the example 
I followed. Obviously, 'wicd' is not sufficient.
Question: Why didn't 'aptitude install wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_all.deb' work?
Question (your response is optional): Why is there a redundant failure line for 
each failure?
Question (your response is optional): Why, following the redundant failure 
line, are 3 additional lines written? This is the sort of behavior that 
confuses people and makes them think that Linux is unfriendly.

Oh, one last thing: 'wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_all.deb' is correct and is in 
the correct folder. Why 'aptitude' couldn't find it is a mystery to me.

Thanks  Ciao - Mark.



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Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver

[Mark Filipak]

On 2013/3/3 4:34 PM, Roman V.Leon. wrote:
-big snip-

Why do you think you need a special driver?
Please type /sbin/ifconfig -a in your terminal to check whether you have 
wlan0 device or not in the list.


mark@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages$ /sbin/ifconfig 
-a
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:18:8b:dc:30:fd
  BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
  RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
  Interrupt:18

loLink encap:Local Loopback
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
  inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
  RX packets:24 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:24 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
  RX bytes:1696 (1.6 KiB)  TX bytes:1696 (1.6 KiB)

pan0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr ba:3e:86:e1:5a:91
  BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
  RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)

wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1b:77:80:2d:b9
  BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
  RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)

Well, 00:1b:77:80:2d:b9 is indeed the WiFi's NIC. So why can't I get to the Ethernet, and 
why does everything I see on the Internet (when I'm in Windows of course) say that I must 
obtain an Intel 3945ABG driver because it's non-free? ...Come to me and fall on thy 
knees, and I will set thee free!


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Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver

[Mr G]

You need the firmware-iwlwifi package.

# dpkg -s firmware-iwlwifi

will tell you if the package is installed. It probably wont be on the
install disk as it is the nonfree repository. You may have to adjust
/etc/apt/sources.list depending on how you answered the questions when you
installed.

And lastly I apologize to everyone on the list on behalf of my phone. Now I
have gotten on the computer and find that google has changed their entire
interface for replies and am not sure how this is going to turn out either.


On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Mark Filipak markfilipak.li...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 2013/3/3 4:20 PM, Joe wrote:

 On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 14:53:37 -0500
 Mark Filipak markfilipak.li...@gmail.com wrote:

 -snip-

 BTW, before I go on, I already tried opening a file manager (in
 Debian+LXDE) and simply double-clicking one of the .deb files.
 Nothing happened.

  There are packages which will install .deb files in this way, having
 set up the right file association, but they are not installed by default
 in LXDE. Anyway, the missing link here is that you use dpkg:

 dpkg -i full-name-of-.deb-file


 May I make a few comments here?
 First, Thanks Joe!
 Second, I just returned from Debian-land. I discovered Aptitude *was*
 installed. The reason I didn't think it was installed was because it wasn't
 listed in LXDE's System Tools menu. But when I opened a terminal session
 and typed in aptitude, there it was.
 Third, the rest of your very good information is getting snipped, but I
 promise that I will use it.

 For now, I need help interpreting what I found in Debian-land.

 =
 mark@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/**Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages$ su
 Password:
 root@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/**Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages#
 aptitude update
 Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.6 _Squeeze_ - Official Snapshot amd64
 LIVE/INSTALL Binary 20121214-16:56] squeeze Release.gpg
 Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.6 _Squeeze_ - Official Snapshot amd64
 LIVE/INSTALL Binary 20121214-16:56]/ squeeze/main Translation-en
 Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.6 _Squeeze_ - Official Snapshot amd64
 LIVE/INSTALL Binary 20121214-16:56]/ squeeze/main Translation-en_US
 Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.6 _Squeeze_ - Official Snapshot amd64
 LIVE/INSTALL Binary 20121214-16:56] squeeze Release
 Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.6 _Squeeze_ - Official Snapshot amd64
 LIVE/INSTALL Binary 20121214-16:56] squeeze/main amd64 Packages/DiffIndex

 root@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/**Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages#
 aptitude install wicd
 Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched wicd
 Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched wicd
 No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
 Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 0 B will be used.

 root@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/**Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages#
 aptitude install wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_all.**deb
 Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched
 wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_**all.deb
 Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched
 wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_**all.deb
 No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
 Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 0 B will be used.

 root@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/**Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages#
 =

 What I did:
 The packages resided in a FAT-32 partition that I prepared in Windows.
 I opened the FAT-32 (./media/usb8) in a file browser.
 I browsed to the folder that contained the packages (./Setup/Debian 6.0.6
 64-bit/Packages).
 From the file browser's menu, I opened a terminal window in the current
 folder.
 My session dialog is above.
 I copied the session dialog to a text file and saved it in the FAT-32
 partition.
 I booted Windows and copied the session dialog into this message.

 Questions/comments (in no particular order):
 Comment: I submitted 'aptitude update' because it was part of the example
 I followed.
 Comment: I submitted 'aptitude install wicd' because it was part of the
 example I followed. Obviously, 'wicd' is not sufficient.
 Question: Why didn't 'aptitude install wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_all.**deb'
 work?
 Question (your response is optional): Why is there a redundant failure
 line for each failure?
 Question (your response is optional): Why, following the redundant failure
 line, are 3 additional lines written? This is the sort of behavior that
 confuses people and makes them think that Linux is unfriendly.

 Oh, one last thing: 'wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_**all.deb' is correct and
 is in the correct folder. Why 'aptitude' couldn't find it is a mystery to
 me.

 Thanks  Ciao - Mark.




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Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver

[Lisi Reisz]

On Sunday 03 March 2013 22:40:22 Mark Filipak wrote:
 Comment: I submitted 'aptitude install wicd' because it was part of the
 example I followed. Obviously, 'wicd' is not sufficient.

Why is it obviously not sufficient?  I would have said that it was.  But you 
would need the right repositories and a connection to the net. On my box:

root@Tux-II:/home/lisi# aptitude install wicd
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libnl1{a} libpcsclite1{a} python-glade2{a} python-iniparse{a} 
python-notify{a}
  python-wicd{a} wicd wicd-daemon{a} wicd-gtk{a} wpasupplicant{a}
0 packages upgraded, 10 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 1,180 kB of archives. After unpacking 4,212 kB will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] n
Abort.
root@Tux-II:/home/lisi#

As you see, just wicd would be fine.  I aborted because I have no wireless 
on this box and so don't actually want it installed.

 Question: Why 
 didn't 'aptitude install wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_all.deb' work?

If you want to install a .deb in that way, you need to use dpkg, as mentioned 
by Joe:

From the directory that the deb is in:
dpkg -i wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_all.deb

If it complains that there are missing dependencies, curse, wish you had used 
aptitude, and install them.  Someone else will need to tell you how to manage 
that from a box without internet access.  I, when faced with this problem, 
always temporarily install an old network card so that I have got internet 
access to sort things out.

HTH
Lisi



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Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver

[Mark Filipak]

On 2013/3/3 6:10 PM, Mr G wrote:

You need the firmware-iwlwifi package.

# dpkg -s firmware-iwlwifi

will tell you if the package is installed. It probably wont be on the
install disk as it is the nonfree repository. You may have to adjust
/etc/apt/sources.list depending on how you answered the questions when you
installed.


Reminder: I don't have Internet in Debian+LXDE yet.
Comment: I have the iwlwifi package. It's 
firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb.
Remark: There were no questions when I installed (Thank doG!), so 
/etc/apt/sources.list may not need adjustment.
Question: What is /etc/apt/sources.list?

Ciao - Mark.



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Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver

[Mark Filipak]

On 2013/3/3 6:10 PM, Mr G wrote:

You need the firmware-iwlwifi package.

# dpkg -s firmware-iwlwifi


You mean this one:
firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb   // Debian - WiFi Drivers

It's on my list.

Do I really install it with this:

dpkg -s firmware-iwlwifi

or this:

dpkg -s firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all

or this:

dpkg -s firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb

?

Oh, never mind. I'll try all 3.


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Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver

[Mark Filipak]

On 2013/3/3 6:48 PM, Mark Filipak wrote:

On 2013/3/3 6:10 PM, Mr G wrote:

You need the firmware-iwlwifi package.

# dpkg -s firmware-iwlwifi


You mean this one:
firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb   // Debian - WiFi Drivers

It's on my list.

Do I really install it with this:

dpkg -s firmware-iwlwifi

or this:

dpkg -s firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all

or this:

dpkg -s firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb

?

Oh, never mind. I'll try all 3.


I don't quite know what to make of the results, but I did as you asked (I 
think).
=
mark@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages$ dpkg -s 
firmware-iwlwifi
Package `firmware-iwlwifi' is not installed and no info is available.
Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.
mark@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages$ dpkg -s 
firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all
Package `firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all' is not installed and no info is 
available.
Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.
mark@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages$ dpkg -s 
firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb
Package `firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb' is not installed and no info 
is available.
Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.
mark@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages$
=

Can you suggest anything else?

Ciao - Mark (mystified).


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Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver

[Mark Filipak]

I tried to install  wicd.

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mark@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages$ dpkg -i 
wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_all.deb
dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege
mark@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages$ su
Password:
root@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages# dpkg -i 
wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_all.deb
Selecting previously deselected package wicd.
(Reading database ... 68689 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking wicd (from wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_all.deb) ...
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of wicd:
 wicd depends on wicd-daemon (= 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3); however:
  Package wicd-daemon is not installed.
 wicd depends on wicd-gtk (= 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3) | wicd-curses (= 
1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3) | wicd-cli (= 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3) | wicd-client; 
however:
  Package wicd-gtk is not installed.
  Package wicd-curses is not installed.
  Package wicd-cli is not installed.
  Package wicd-client is not installed.
dpkg: error processing wicd (--install):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
 wicd
root@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages#
=

I see that there are uninstalled dependencies:
wicd-daemon (= 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3)
wicd-gtk (= 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3)
wicd-curses (= 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3)
wicd-cli (= 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3)
wicd-client

When I do a google search for 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3 I find lots of stuff, 
including Python - gee, I've written Python server code - is that needed for this?

I don't know what to do, so I'll wait for some nice person to give me a push in 
a particular direction (and hope that it's not towards a cliff).

Ciao - Mark.


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Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver

[Mr G]

No, dpkg -s just simply tells you if it is installed.  If it's not then:

$ cd directory where firmware-iwlwifi.deb

is then:

$ sudo dpkg -i firmware-iwlwifi.deb

or

# dpkg -i firmware-iwlwifi.deb

There should have been one installed by default. If it is installed then
you can move onto the next step which would be configuring your network.
That works exactly the same as any other desktop. Find the icon and click
or right click and pick your network or adjust settings. I can't remember,
it's been several years since I used a network manager.

Also for future reference, you may want to install the gdebi package or
check your menu to see if it is installed. It will do the same thing as
dpkg -i except it is a graphical program like you are used to and you will
be able to install .deb packages from your file manager by clicking on them
like you are used to using. I find such things to just simply get in my way
but to each their own.


On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Mark Filipak markfilipak.li...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 2013/3/3 6:10 PM, Mr G wrote:

 You need the firmware-iwlwifi package.

 # dpkg -s firmware-iwlwifi


 You mean this one:

 firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+**squeeze1_all.deb   // Debian - WiFi Drivers

 It's on my list.

 Do I really install it with this:

 dpkg -s firmware-iwlwifi

 or this:

 dpkg -s firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+**squeeze1_all

 or this:

 dpkg -s firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+**squeeze1_all.deb

 ?

 Oh, never mind. I'll try all 3.




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Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver

[Mr G]

Good. You found the problem.

 Package `firmware-iwlwifi' is not installed and no info is available.

So now you need to get you and firmware-iwlwifi.deb in the same directory.
Really you don't -- but let's keep it simple ;)

If you don't know how do:

$ man cd

Once you and the package are together then do the

$ sudo dpkg -i firmware-iwlwifi.deb

as a regular user or:

# dpkg -i firmware-iwlwifi.deb

as root. Again I don't know how you answered the questions when you
installed. You can type

$ id

and it will tell you what groups you are in. To execute the command as
normal user using sudo
you will need to be in the group named sudo.



On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Mr G persistence2succ...@gmail.com wrote:

 No, dpkg -s just simply tells you if it is installed.  If it's not then:

 $ cd directory where firmware-iwlwifi.deb

 is then:

 $ sudo dpkg -i firmware-iwlwifi.deb

 or

 # dpkg -i firmware-iwlwifi.deb

 There should have been one installed by default. If it is installed then
 you can move onto the next step which would be configuring your network.
 That works exactly the same as any other desktop. Find the icon and click
 or right click and pick your network or adjust settings. I can't remember,
 it's been several years since I used a network manager.

 Also for future reference, you may want to install the gdebi package or
 check your menu to see if it is installed. It will do the same thing as
 dpkg -i except it is a graphical program like you are used to and you will
 be able to install .deb packages from your file manager by clicking on them
 like you are used to using. I find such things to just simply get in my way
 but to each their own.


 On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Mark Filipak 
 markfilipak.li...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 2013/3/3 6:10 PM, Mr G wrote:

 You need the firmware-iwlwifi package.

 # dpkg -s firmware-iwlwifi


 You mean this one:

 firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+**squeeze1_all.deb   // Debian - WiFi Drivers

 It's on my list.

 Do I really install it with this:

 dpkg -s firmware-iwlwifi

 or this:

 dpkg -s firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+**squeeze1_all

 or this:

 dpkg -s firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+**squeeze1_all.deb

 ?

 Oh, never mind. I'll try all 3.




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Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver

[Mark Filipak]

On 2013/3/3 7:22 PM, Mr G wrote:

Good. You found the problem.

 Package `firmware-iwlwifi' is not installed and no info is available.

So now you need to get you and firmware-iwlwifi.deb in the same directory.


=
mark@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages$ dpkg -s 
firmware-iwlwifi
Package `firmware-iwlwifi' is not installed and no info is available.
Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.
mark@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages$ dpkg -s 
firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all
Package `firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all' is not installed and no info is 
available.
Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.
mark@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages$ dpkg -s 
firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb
Package `firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb' is not installed and no info 
is available.
Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.
mark@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages$
=

Yes, as you can see from the terminal session above, the CWD is
   'mark@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages'.
I guess that's really
   '/home/mark/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages'
but I'm not really sure.

-snip-

$ sudo dpkg -i firmware-iwlwifi.deb

as a regular user or:

# dpkg -i firmware-iwlwifi.deb

as root. Again I don't know how you answered the questions when you
installed.


Aside from my name, password, and time zone, the installer didn't ask any 
questions (Thank doG!).
In my previous encounters with Linux, the installer asked a million questions as though I 
knew what the stuff was and disk space was incredibly expensive. I just answered 'Yes' to 
everything, and then I wound up with a non-working system. That's why I wrote I've 
never successfully installed Linux last week. That brought the wrath of the 
Linux-stuffedshirtkingdom down on me and I had to run for the hills.

As you can see from the terminal session above, I was not alerted to run as 
root. When I tried 'Aptitude' a hour or so ago, I was alerted to run as root, 
but this time, no.

I'll go back and try running 'dpkg' as root, but you said that 'dpkg' is not an 
installer, so I'm confused regarding why I'm doing it. I'll be back in a few 
minutes.

Ciao - Mark.


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Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver

[Mark Filipak]

On 2013/3/3 8:16 PM, Mr G wrote:
-snip-

$ id

-snip-

$ sudo updatedb

-snip-

$ mlocate firmware-iwlwfi.deb

-snip-

$ pwd


Look at the terminal session below

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mark@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages$ su
Password:

root@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages# dpkg -i 
firmware-iwlwifi.deb
dpkg: error processing firmware-iwlwifi.deb (--install):
 cannot access archive: No such file or directory
Errors were encountered while processing:
 firmware-iwlwifi.deb

root@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages# dpkg -i 
firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb
Selecting previously deselected package firmware-iwlwifi.
(Reading database ... 68697 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking firmware-iwlwifi (from firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb) ...
Setting up firmware-iwlwifi (0.28+squeeze1) ...
=

I don't think it's necessary for me to 'mlocate' or 'pwd', do you?
'firmware-iwlwifi.deb' is not right. It has to be 
'firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb'

This is the first real progress I've made since the installation succeeded. 
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!
Now, regarding a network manager, the terminal session below is from about 2 
hours ago. Can you help with it?

=
root@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages# dpkg -i 
wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_all.deb
Selecting previously deselected package wicd.
(Reading database ... 68689 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking wicd (from wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_all.deb) ...
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of wicd:
 wicd depends on wicd-daemon (= 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3); however:
  Package wicd-daemon is not installed.
 wicd depends on wicd-gtk (= 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3) | wicd-curses (= 
1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3) | wicd-cli (= 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3) | wicd-client; 
however:
  Package wicd-gtk is not installed.
  Package wicd-curses is not installed.
  Package wicd-cli is not installed.
  Package wicd-client is not installed.
dpkg: error processing wicd (--install):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
 wicd
=

There are uninstalled dependencies:
wicd-daemon (= 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3)
wicd-gtk (= 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3)
wicd-curses (= 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3)
wicd-cli (= 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3)
wicd-client

When I do a google search for 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3 I find lots of stuff (too 
much stuff), including Python - gee, I've written Python server code - is that needed for 
this? Python aside, I don't know what to do next, so I'll wait for a push in a particular 
direction (and hope that it's not towards a cliff).

Ciao - Mark (who's going to go out and catch some food for a little while).


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Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver

[Mr G]

root@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/S
etup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages# dpkg -i
firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb
Selecting previously deselected package firmware-iwlwifi.
(Reading database ... 68697 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking firmware-iwlwifi (from firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb) ...
Setting up firmware-iwlwifi (0.28+squeeze1) ...
=


That means it is installed and this thread is solved. You should now be
able to use the network software that can with the install. If you other
problems, start a new thread. That way other users with your problem will
be able to search the archives.


On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 9:51 PM, Mark Filipak markfilipak.li...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 2013/3/3 9:21 PM, Mr G wrote:

 If I didn't think it was necessary I wouldn't have asked you to run the
 commands.


 Quite right. My error. For convenience, I've added blank lines between
 commands and I added one command.

 =
 mark@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/**Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages$ id
 uid=1000(mark) gid=1000(mark) groups=1000(mark),24(cdrom),**
 25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),**44(video),46(plugdev),108(**
 netdev),115(powerdev),116(**scanner),119(bluetooth)

 mark@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/**Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages$ sudo
 updatedb
 [sudo] password for mark:
 mark is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.

 mark@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/**Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages$
 mlocate firmware-iwlwifi.deb

 mark@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/**Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages$
 mlocate firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+**squeeze1_all.deb

 mark@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/**Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages$ pwd
 /media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages
 =

 Is this what you expected?

 Ciao - Mark.




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Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver [SOLVED]

[Mark Filipak]

Get the WiFi driver.
- Go to http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi and look for a link related to your WiFi 
device.
  My WiFi device is an Intel PRO/Wireless 3945 and the link is labeled 
'ipw3945'.
  Yours will probably be different.
- Taking the device-related link takes you to the Debian Wiki page for your 
desired
  driver. For the ipw3945 that page is http://wiki.debian.org/ipw3945.
  On that page is a notice: Non-free firmware is required, which can be 
provided
   by the link package.
- If you encounter such a notice, take link to get to a search results page
  (identifiable by the phrase Exact hits) and select yet one more link for the
  codename of your Debian (in my case, this codename is Squeeze).
- The final page contains the download link for the driver. Save the driver to a
  folder where it will be available while running Debian. In my case, the 
driver is
  named firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb.

Install the WiFi driver.
- In the target Debian system, browse to the folder where you saved the driver.
- Open a terminal window and enter this command:
 su
  Note: you will be prompted for the root user's password - the installer needs 
to
  run with root privilege and this is how to elevate your privilege to root 
level.
- Then enter this command:
 dpkg -i firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb
  Note: replace firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb with the actual name of
  your driver. If the system responds with something like this:
 Selecting previously deselected package firmware-iwlwifi.
 (Reading database ... 68697 files and directories currently installed.)
 Unpacking firmware-iwlwifi (from firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb) 
...
 Setting up firmware-iwlwifi (0.28+squeeze1) ...
  your driver is installed.


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Re: Help Please !

[Zhang Weiwu]

Kwaku Obeng 写道:
  I therefore wish to make an appeal to any of you who can send me a
 copy of the Debian 5.0 DVD Pack.
I can imagine somewhere went wrong during the burning process. However
instead of fighting the burning problem it may be easier to skip the
problem by just starting with a well-made CD. So I took it as a
reasonable request.

However Africa is too far away from me. Do you know if you have a Linux
user group locally? Just try google Linux user group together with the
name of the city you live in. They might have plenty Debian CD in stock.
Here in Beijing Linux user group distribute a lot of CDs to other people
if you just ask them. They don't have it in stock, they just burn it on
the sight, but most burns in the right way:)


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Re: Help Please !

[evenso]

On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 08:22:12PM +, Kwaku Obeng wrote:
Hi folks,
 
My name is Kwaku Obeng and a Ghanaian by birth. I read about Debian a few
months ago on website and I have been trying to download the DVD packs so
I can practice the tutorials on the site but always end up with a corrupt
copy which I am unable to boot from. I therefore wish to make an appeal to
any of you who can send me a copy of the Debian 5.0 DVD Pack.
Thank you.
 
My postal address is:

An ISO file is an archive. You can't just transfer the archive to a CD. Use
a CD burner with an option to a create disk from an ISO image.  If you are
doing this with Windows, CDburnerXP will work, it is easy and free,
http://cdburnerxp.se/ .

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Re: Help Please !

[Lisi]

On Saturday 26 December 2009 08:04:47 Zhang Weiwu wrote:
 However Africa is too far away from me. Do you know if you have a Linux
 user group locally?

http://linuxaccra.com/

Lisi


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Re: Help Please !

[Brian Ryans]

Quoting Kwaku Obeng on 2009-12-25 14:22:12:
 I have been trying to download the DVD packs ... but always end up
 with a corrupt copy which I am unable to boot from. I therefore wish
 to make an appeal to any of you who can send me a copy of the Debian
 5.0 DVD Pack.

Welcome to Debian, Kwaku. I unfortunately do not know of any Debian
distributors in Ghana, but the site listed at [1] should help.

[1] http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/
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Re: Help Please !

[s. keeling]

Kwaku Obeng kwakb...@gmail.com:
 
  My name is Kwaku Obeng and a Ghanaian by birth. I read about Debian a few
  months ago on website and I have been trying to download the DVD packs so I
  can practice the tutorials on the site but always end up with a corrupt copy
  which I am unable to boot from. I therefore wish to make an appeal to any of
  you who can send me a copy of the Debian 5.0 DVD Pack.

Most often, all you need is a CD #1 of the current stable/testing
release.  Even better is the net boot image, less than 50 Mb last time
I looked.  It gets the rest for you.

DSL (among others) is small too.  See distrowatch.com


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Burning install DVDs was: Re: Help Please !

[Lisi]

On Friday 25 December 2009 20:22:12 Kwaku Obeng wrote:
 I have been trying to download the DVD packs so I
 can practice the tutorials on the site but always end up with a corrupt
 copy which I am unable to boot from

Are you burning them correctly?  Incorrect burning is the most usual reason 
for failures such as you describe. The files need to be burnt as an image and 
not as an audio or a data disc.

But, as has already been suggested, if you have a decent download speed it is 
easier and quicker to download the net install CD and install from there.

Lisi


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Re: Help Please

[Florian Kulzer]

On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 01:09:25 +0200, s. keeling wrote:
 Florian Kulzer:
 
   (I can only confirm that the 2.6.22 version of sc92031.c has the text
   Rsltek 8139D PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter driver in the source code.)
 ^^
 
 Is that a typo, or is a wishlist bug in order?

I copy/pasted directly, and I don't think that it is a typo in the
source either. My guess is that Silan actually uses the name Rsltek
8139D, obviously to confuse people and to trick them into buying this
card. Looking at the complaints on the web, I get the impression that
they are selling this card mainly in India; maybe the Indian trademark
laws allow them to ride on the coattails of Realtek like that. (In other
places they seem to use the more appropriate name Silan Fast Ethernet
Netcard.)

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Re: Help Please

[Nigel Henry]

On Sunday 30 September 2007 15:27, ankit . wrote:
 Sir

 Please help me to install intex RTL 8139d nic on debian 4.0. Debain is
 unable to detect the nic on it's own. What should I do to install the nic.

 The technical specification of the nic I am using:

 http://www.intextechnologies.com/computerperi1.aspx?cat=Computer%20Peripher
alssub=Ethernet%20Card\Switchpro=Card%2010/%20100%20Mbps

 Thanking You

 Ankit

My 8139 card may be a bit earlier that yours, but I found that I had to load 
the 8139too module to get the card to work. try as root.
modprobe 8139too

If it works you can add it to /etc/modules on one line as below, and it will 
be loaded when you boot up.
8139too


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Re: Help Please

[Florian Kulzer]

On Sun, Sep 30, 2007 at 16:13:59 +0200, Nigel Henry wrote:
 On Sunday 30 September 2007 15:27, ankit . wrote:
  Sir
 
  Please help me to install intex RTL 8139d nic on debian 4.0. Debain is
  unable to detect the nic on it's own. What should I do to install the nic.
 
  The technical specification of the nic I am using:
 
  http://www.intextechnologies.com/computerperi1.aspx?cat=Computer%20Peripher
 alssub=Ethernet%20Card\Switchpro=Card%2010/%20100%20Mbps
 
  Thanking You
 
  Ankit
 
 My 8139 card may be a bit earlier that yours, but I found that I had to load 
 the 8139too module to get the card to work. try as root.
 modprobe 8139too

If you google for intex ethernet card linux then you find a number of
complaints, stating that this card does not actually use the Realtek
8139 chipset. It seems to be a cheap knock-off chipset from Silan
Microelectronics; the confusing model number has almost certainly been
chosen on purpose.
 
The people in this discussion thread

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=441115

conclude that you need the sc92031 driver for Intex NICs. This module
came into the mainline kernel at version 2.6.21, while Etch has 2.6.18.
(I can only confirm that the 2.6.22 version of sc92031.c has the text
Rsltek 8139D PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter driver in the source code.)

The best procedure for someone who is relatively new to Linux and Debian
might be to download one of Kenshi Muto's custom Etch installer images,
because they have the 2.6.21 kernel. ISOs for i386 and amd64 are
available here:

http://mirror.home-dn.net/d-i/

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Florian Kulzer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  (I can only confirm that the 2.6.22 version of sc92031.c has the text
  Rsltek 8139D PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter driver in the source code.)
^^

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Re: help please! Error with apt-get, dpkg and aptitude

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On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 04:55:18AM -0700, Freddy Freeloader wrote:
 Joe Hart wrote:
 David Primero Segundo wrote:
   
 Hello friends, i am very sad because my system debian is instable. When
 i run: apt-get upgrade or when i run aptitude to install or remove or
 upgrade a package, or when i use dpkg, debia answer me the next:
 http://pastebin.ca/392151, please i don't know to do i need help you.
 
 
 Sorry to say this:  That error is an i/o error.  It looks to me like you
 may have a hard disk problem.
 
 
 
   
 As very little information is given by the original poster it could also 
 be that both apt-get and dpkg are choking on a single package that has 
 become corrupted too. 
 
 In the link below there is a very similar problem and how the guy fixed 
 it on his machine, but it is rather involved. 
 
 http://www.eskimo.com/~c/blog/archive/2003-05.html
 
 Scroll down to the entry for May 8, 2003 to find the problem defined and 
 solution found. 

I was installing a coupla pkgs on a Sid machine in last coupla days when
for some unknown reason the '/var/lib/dpkg/status' file got corrupted.
Somehow a package name had a ')' character instead of an 'i' character.

The error msgs were reasonably helpful. I can't remember the command
(sorry) which basically said ... parse error for file
/var/lib/dpkg/status ')' character illegal in package name at line
31645

I don't know if the above links, I haven't looked, are relative to this
anonomolly.

I haven't reported a bug but if it happens again I may consider it.

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Re: help please! Error with apt-get, dpkg and aptitude

[Freddy Freeloader]

Joe Hart wrote:

David Primero Segundo wrote:
  

Hello friends, i am very sad because my system debian is instable. When
i run: apt-get upgrade or when i run aptitude to install or remove or
upgrade a package, or when i use dpkg, debia answer me the next:
http://pastebin.ca/392151, please i don't know to do i need help you.



Sorry to say this:  That error is an i/o error.  It looks to me like you
may have a hard disk problem.



  
As very little information is given by the original poster it could also 
be that both apt-get and dpkg are choking on a single package that has 
become corrupted too. 

In the link below there is a very similar problem and how the guy fixed 
it on his machine, but it is rather involved. 


http://www.eskimo.com/~c/blog/archive/2003-05.html

Scroll down to the entry for May 8, 2003 to find the problem defined and 
solution found. 



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Re: help please! Error with apt-get, dpkg and aptitude

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David Primero Segundo wrote:
 Hello friends, i am very sad because my system debian is instable. When
 i run: apt-get upgrade or when i run aptitude to install or remove or
 upgrade a package, or when i use dpkg, debia answer me the next:
 http://pastebin.ca/392151, please i don't know to do i need help you.

Sorry to say this:  That error is an i/o error.  It looks to me like you
may have a hard disk problem.



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Re: help please

[Michael Gregg]

On Wed, 2005-10-19 at 20:55 -0700, Ryan Thompson wrote:
 i want to get debian but i need to know,
 does it have a media player

There are many media players. 
I prefer mplayer. Mplayer is not in the main tree for political reasons
but if you google for mplayer on debian you can get instructions on
howto get it.

 and will my wireless internet cable connection work
 off of it?

Probably. It depends on what type of wireless connection you have. What
kind of modem. If your internet comes to you down a ethernet cable, you
probably won't have problems. If it's through a pcmcia card, you can
google for linux and the card to see if anybody has had success with it.
If it's down a usb cable your in a problem territory. Most ofter your
only going to be able to use that device if someone has taken the time
to write drivers for linux. Again, google for linux and the usb device
for more info.

wireless internet connection can mean many things. Can you specify?

 
 plz respond asap plz
 
 remember Jesus loves you
 

oh my. Please, not in this forum.

 much thx,
  Ryan

Hope this helps.


 
 
   
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[j j]

vlc is my media player of choice. as far as wireless connection,
it depends on your setup and your router. google the name+model#
of your router and linux, to see what comes up. And report more
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Re: help please

[Alan Ianson]

On Wed October 19 2005 08:55 pm, Ryan Thompson wrote:
 i want to get debian but i need to know,
 does it have a media player

There are many media players for linux, debian ships with most of them. I like 
amaroK.

 and will my wireless internet cable connection work
 off of it?

It works with mine, your mileage may vary. You will probably have to build a 
kernel module for your card.

 plz respond asap plz

 remember Jesus loves you

No more please, the warm fuzzies are gonna kill me!


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Re: help please

[Craig Jackson]

On Mon, 6 Sep 2004 10:40:59 +0200
ENRICO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello, my name is Enrico.
 My problem is that a strange thing append when I reboot the system
 using a new kernel I've configured. 

This new kernel, was it configured the debian way or from kernel.org?

Craig Jackson


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Re: help, please

[franky]

Le Jeudi 20 Novembre 2003 15:56, Alex Gren a écrit :

 p.s. sorry for my English

Sur une liste francophone, ce n'est pas très grave ;-)
Celà dit, pour Corel Draw, aucune idée. sur le site de Corel il n'est 
question que de Windows et Mac OS X. Est-ce que la version Linux existe 
toujours ?

A+
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Re : help, please

[Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh)]

Bonjour,

Il n'y a plus de version récente sous linux.
je ne me souviens plus de la dernière disponible mais elle tournait  
en fait sous l'émulateur wine.
De plsu; la reprise de Corel par Microsoft ne devrait pas faire  
évoluer les choses dnas le bon sens.


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| Le Jeudi 20 Novembre 2003 15:56, Alex Gren a écrit :
|
|  p.s. sorry for my English
|
| Sur une liste francophone, ce n'est pas très grave ;-)
| Celà dit, pour Corel Draw, aucune idée. sur le site de Corel il
| n'est
| question que de Windows et Mac OS X. Est-ce que la version Linux
| existe
| toujours ?
|
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Re: Help Please.....

[Erik Steffl]

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***Hey, I'm about to buy *VIA C3M266 Mainboard *for Linux Debian 
Woody.   Like you said all VIA motherboards, well almost all, should 
work fine. if you have any thing you wanna add to help me install debian 
on this  motherboard please do, Little things can help too you know. *
***Thanks you so much for your help
  not sure what's the relationship, the MB with following via chipset 
wasn't able to do audio cd ripping (everything else worked)

ABIT VH6-II (with VT82C693A/694x chipset)

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Re: help please

[Scott C. Linnenbringer]

On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:49:07 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

 I sent out same e-mail before if you read it then don't bother
 yourself with this one
 
 Hey, I'm about to buy VIA C3M266 Mainboard  Or  VIA P4MA Pro 533
 Mainboard for Linux Debian Woody.   Like you said all VIA
 motherboards, well almost all, should work fine. if you have any thing
 you wanna add to help me install debian on this  motherboard please
 do, Little things can help too you know. Thanks you so much for
 your help

We *already* responded to your 8+ messages sent to this mailing list.

Please, send only *one* message to a mailing list, instead of 8+ copies
of the *same* message, and please, strip out all HTML from your mail. ;)

As for now ... check out http://lists.debian.org

Your thread will be in the archives, which can be searched, since this
mailing list traffics about 200-300 messages per day.

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Re: help please

[Martin Jungowski]

Dude, you're so close *holding up two fingers* to get on my blacklist
forever if you're gonna send one more HTML mail to this list you're
about to get ignored 'till the end of the universe.

And please please please, we're not stupid. Writing one single message
is enough, no need to send the same message over and over again. We're
smart people, we'll figure it out.

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 Mainboard for Linux Debian Woody.   Like you said all VIA
 motherboards, well almost all, should work fine. if you have any thing
 you wanna add to help me install debian on this  motherboard please
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Re: Help Please!!

[William Bradley]

On Tuesday 26 August 2003 01:08 pm, Arnt Karlsen wrote:

 ..ah, you just need to start the gpm service on bootup, 'man update-rc.d
 ' for the gory details.  ;-)

 ..and with X reading /dev/gpmdata, you don't need to restart
 X, only gpm.  ;-)

Thank you Amt, finally I am up and running. Changed the mouse again and 
configured it gpmconfig and now it is stable and working.

Bill.

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Re: Help Please!!

[William Bradley]

On Tuesday 26 August 2003 12:28 pm, Kent West wrote:

 Whoo-hoo!

WHOO-HOO

 To see if gpm is running, do a ps ax | grep [g]pm; you should get back
 a line similar to:
   371 ?S  1:11 /usr/sbin/gpm -m /dev/psaux -t imps2 -r 25 -Rraw

On the above got:

199 ? S 0:00 gpm start

 If not, your gpm script is either not running or is failing. Try
 /etc/init.d/gpm start to start gpm, and then either move the mouse or
 do the above ps command again. If this works, that means the script is
 not running for some reason on boot-up.

Did the /etc/init.d/gpm start

The mouse did not move. So I put the Logitech mouse on and nothing would drive 
it at all in gpmconfig. 

Then I got my two-button ps/2 mouse that I carry with my laptop. In 
gpmconfig it ran with fups2. Restarted Debian and it still worked. Shut 
Debian right down and restarted and it still worked.

Then I hit startx, Window Maker came up and the mouse moved all over the 
screen. Whoooeee!!

Deleted the exit 0 on XDM and it booted graphically and the mouse has 
command of the screen.

Thank you again Kent for all of your patient help. Debian would have been gone 
by now without it.

Bill.


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Re: Help Please!!

[Pigeon]

On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 10:51:15AM -0400, William Bradley wrote:
 On Tuesday 26 August 2003 02:58 am, Kent West wrote:
 
  Whoo-hoo!
 
  bit premature it seems. (Sigh!)
 
  Okay, make sure that gpm is configured to repeat raw (either edit
  /etc/gpm.conf, or better, re-run gpmconfig).
 
 When I set up gpmconfig with fuimps the mouse moves when I test it. When I 
 get out of gpmconfig it still works.
 
 However when I shutdown -r now when it reboots the mouse is dead again. 
 Thinking the gpm server is not working,

In this apparently dead state, what does 'ps ax | grep gpm' report?

 I entered #gpm but that did not change anything.

No, I don't think it will - see (a) below

 Then I go back to gpmconfig and get it going again. Sometimes it doesn't 
 take on the first configuration and has to be done again and then it will 
 work.

Is it actually configured to start gpm on boot? gpmconfig defaults to
(re)starting gpm when you run it, but it won't configure gpm to start
on boot.

a) Does '/etc/init.d/gpm start' (instead of running gpmconfig again) get 
   it going?
b) Does 'ls -l /etc/rc?.d/*gpm*' show anything?

If (a) is 'yes' and (b) is 'no', the solution is to install a link to
start gpm on boot:

  ln -s /etc/init.d/gpm /etc/rc2.d/S20gpm
  
(there's also a 'Debian way' to do this which I don't know, never
having used it :-) ) (It would be nice if gpmconfig offered the option
to install/remove this link.)

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Re: Help Please!!

[Johann Spies]

On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 10:51:15AM -0400, William Bradley wrote:
 On Tuesday 26 August 2003 02:58 am, Kent West wrote:
 
  Whoo-hoo!
 
  bit premature it seems. (Sigh!)
 
  Okay, make sure that gpm is configured to repeat raw (either edit
  /etc/gpm.conf, or better, re-run gpmconfig).
 
 When I set up gpmconfig with fuimps the mouse moves when I test it. When I 
 get out of gpmconfig it still works.
 
 However when I shutdown -r now when it reboots the mouse is dead again. 
 Thinking the gpm server is not working, I entered #gpm but that did not 
 change anything.

Make sure that gpmconfig actually wrote the file /etc/gpm.conf .  I
have found on more than one Debian machine that gpmconfig did not
write that file or wrote an empty file.  So I created /etc/gpm.conf by
hand.

Regards
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Re: Help Please!!

[William Bradley]

On Wednesday 27 August 2003 03:15 am, Johann Spies wrote:

 Make sure that gpmconfig actually wrote the file /etc/gpm.conf .  I
 have found on more than one Debian machine that gpmconfig did not
 write that file or wrote an empty file.  So I created  by
 hand.

Thank you Johann, I did check the /etc/gpm.conf. I finally got the mouse 
working with gpmconfig. It was a curious situation in that gpmconfig would 
not recognize the Logitech PS/2 (with wheel) that I was using. Another three 
button mouse (PS/2) only worked haphazardly. Finally I put a two button PS/2 
mouse on and gpmcongfig accepted it fups2 in a stable fashion and has been 
stable ever since. Go figure!!

Bill.

 
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Re: Help Please!!

[William Bradley]

On Monday 25 August 2003 06:10 pm, Kent West wrote:

 Sorry; I guess I didn't make myself clear. Forget completely about X for
 now; in fact, you might want to even disable the graphical login screen
 (add exit 0 as the first non-comment line in the appropriate script:
 /etc/init.d/gdm or kdm or xdm or wdm and then reboot). Get the mouse
 working in the non-X console first via gpm. Once that's working, then
 you can worry about X.

Did the above, X is now disabled and boots to the command line.

 If I remember correctly, you said this mouse works fine in Windows on
 the same box. I guess that means the mouse has not been
 unplugged/replugged, with the attendant possibilities of broken/bent
 pins, bad connection, etc?

I turned off both of my machines, and took the PS/2 scroll mouse off the 
Mandrake unit, and installed it on the dual boot Debian unit. Then booted 
them both up again. The one that I took off the Debian unit, that was not 
working there, worked fine on the Mandrake unit. The one I took off the 
Mandrake machine is stationary on the Debian unit.

 In the text console, using gpm, you should see a white rectangle as your
 mouse pointer. It should function just as a pointer should, only it'll
 be rectangular instead of pointy. Do not try to configure gpm from
 within X! Get out of X completely to do this. Kill X. Exit X. Do not
 start X. Forget X. Ex X.

I now have a white rectangle but it is stationary on the screen.

Thank you for this help, I appreciate it very much and I would like to get 
Debian going.

Bill.



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Re: Help Please!!

[Kent West]

William Bradley wrote:

On Monday 25 August 2003 06:10 pm, Kent West wrote:

 

Sorry; I guess I didn't make myself clear. Forget completely about X for
now; in fact, you might want to even disable the graphical login screen
(add exit 0 as the first non-comment line in the appropriate script:
/etc/init.d/gdm or kdm or xdm or wdm and then reboot). Get the mouse
working in the non-X console first via gpm. Once that's working, then
you can worry about X.
   

Did the above, X is now disabled and boots to the command line.

 

If I remember correctly, you said this mouse works fine in Windows on
the same box. I guess that means the mouse has not been
unplugged/replugged, with the attendant possibilities of broken/bent
pins, bad connection, etc?
   

I turned off both of my machines, and took the PS/2 scroll mouse off the 
Mandrake unit, and installed it on the dual boot Debian unit. Then booted 
them both up again. The one that I took off the Debian unit, that was not 
working there, worked fine on the Mandrake unit. The one I took off the 
Mandrake machine is stationary on the Debian unit.

 

In the text console, using gpm, you should see a white rectangle as your
mouse pointer. It should function just as a pointer should, only it'll
be rectangular instead of pointy. Do not try to configure gpm from
within X! Get out of X completely to do this. Kill X. Exit X. Do not
start X. Forget X. Ex X.
   

I now have a white rectangle but it is stationary on the screen.

Thank you for this help, I appreciate it very much and I would like to get 
Debian going.

Bill.
 

Okay, so we know for sure the mouse is okay. And if either mouse works 
on Windows on the Debian box, we can assume the ps/2 port is okay. 
Which leaves software.

I see two basic possibilities:
1) kernel issues
2) gpm issues
I believe you said earlier that cat /dev/psaux generated garbage as 
expected, which pretty much eliminates kernel issues. Still, you might 
be interested in upgrading the kernel (assuming you have 2.2.20 - uname 
-a will report it for you).

More likely, your problem is with gpm (or X, when we get there). Again, 
I see two basic possibilities:
1) older version of gpm not working right with that particular mouse
2) wrong settings in gpm.

The older version issue is probably not the case; ps/2 mice have been 
around quite a while. However, you might consider upgrading to unstable 
if this isn't a box that needs 24x7 uptime (or five 9s - 99.999%).

Mostly likely the protocol is wrong. I don't remember; is this a wheel 
mouse? If so, try fuimps2. You can also type help when asked for the 
type during gpmconfig for a list of other protocols to try. Experiment 
and see if you get any motion.

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Re: Help Please!!

[Pigeon]

On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 08:26:28PM -0400, William Bradley wrote:
 On Monday 25 August 2003 06:10 pm, Kent West wrote:
 
  Sorry; I guess I didn't make myself clear. Forget completely about X for
  now; in fact, you might want to even disable the graphical login screen
  (add exit 0 as the first non-comment line in the appropriate script:
  /etc/init.d/gdm or kdm or xdm or wdm and then reboot). Get the mouse
  working in the non-X console first via gpm. Once that's working, then
  you can worry about X.
 
 Did the above, X is now disabled and boots to the command line.
 
  If I remember correctly, you said this mouse works fine in Windows on
  the same box. I guess that means the mouse has not been
  unplugged/replugged, with the attendant possibilities of broken/bent
  pins, bad connection, etc?
 
 I turned off both of my machines, and took the PS/2 scroll mouse off the 
 Mandrake unit, and installed it on the dual boot Debian unit. Then booted 
 them both up again. The one that I took off the Debian unit, that was not 
 working there, worked fine on the Mandrake unit. The one I took off the 
 Mandrake machine is stationary on the Debian unit.

Are the mice the same make/model?

  In the text console, using gpm, you should see a white rectangle as your
  mouse pointer. It should function just as a pointer should, only it'll
  be rectangular instead of pointy. Do not try to configure gpm from
  within X! Get out of X completely to do this. Kill X. Exit X. Do not
  start X. Forget X. Ex X.
 
 I now have a white rectangle but it is stationary on the screen.

This is a bit of a long shot, and I would expect it to be resulting in
uncontrollable rather than zero pointer movement, but perhaps your
mouse has a weird protocol... though I still don't see why Mandrake
would be OK and Debian not, but still... Can you send me a sample of
your mouse's raw output and I'll have a look to see if it looks like a
recognised protocol? Do this...

1) Be in console mode, with gpm stopped (I don't use gpm myself, but
   I'd guess '/etc/init.d/gpm stop' as root should stop it)
2) Do the 'cat /dev/psaux' trick to make sure the hardware's working
3) Take the mouse ball out, so you can move the little rollers that it
   runs against with your finger
4) Issue the command: cat /dev/psaux  /tmp/mousedata 
   - you'll get a number in square brackets and a longer number
   without brackets
5) Move the mouse's horizontal roller with your finger, first one way
   then the other
6) Move the mouse's vertical roller with your finger, first one way
   then the other
7) Click the buttons twice each, in the order left, right, middle
8) Move the scroll wheel first one way then the other
9) Issue the command: echo -ne '\377'  /dev/psaux
10) Issue the command: echo -ne '\364'  /dev/psaux
11) Repeat steps 5 to 8
12) Kill the cat - kill number where number is the number 
without the brackets from step 4 - you should get a 'Terminated'
message
13) Email me the file /tmp/mousedata


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Re: Help Please!!

[William Bradley]

On Monday 25 August 2003 11:09 pm, Kent West wrote:

 Okay, so we know for sure the mouse is okay. And if either mouse works
 on Windows on the Debian box, we can assume the ps/2 port is okay.
 Which leaves software.

 I see two basic possibilities:
  1) kernel issues
  2) gpm issues

 I believe you said earlier that cat /dev/psaux generated garbage as
 expected, which pretty much eliminates kernel issues. Still, you might
 be interested in upgrading the kernel (assuming you have 2.2.20 - uname
 -a will report it for you).

 More likely, your problem is with gpm (or X, when we get there). Again,
 I see two basic possibilities:
  1) older version of gpm not working right with that particular mouse
  2) wrong settings in gpm.

 The older version issue is probably not the case; ps/2 mice have been
 around quite a while. However, you might consider upgrading to unstable
 if this isn't a box that needs 24x7 uptime (or five 9s - 99.999%).

 Mostly likely the protocol is wrong. I don't remember; is this a wheel
 mouse? If so, try fuimps2. You can also type help when asked for the
 type during gpmconfig for a list of other protocols to try. Experiment
 and see if you get any motion.

If we had web cams you could see an old geezer dancing a slightly arthritic 
jig. Clicked on help as you suggested. Tried one, forget which, did not 
work, and then I tried fuimps2 and tested it. Bumped the mouse accidentally 
and it moved. Nearly fell off my chair!! After five days, there finally is 
movement. 

What is next, restart X windows?

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Re: Help Please!!

[William Bradley]

On Tuesday 26 August 2003 12:08 am, you wrote:

 1) Be in console mode, with gpm stopped (I don't use gpm myself, but
I'd guess '/etc/init.d/gpm stop' as root should stop it)
 2) Do the 'cat /dev/psaux' trick to make sure the hardware's working
 3) Take the mouse ball out, so you can move the little rollers that it
runs against with your finger
 4) Issue the command: cat /dev/psaux  /tmp/mousedata 
- you'll get a number in square brackets and a longer number
without brackets
 5) Move the mouse's horizontal roller with your finger, first one way
then the other
 6) Move the mouse's vertical roller with your finger, first one way
then the other
 7) Click the buttons twice each, in the order left, right, middle
 8) Move the scroll wheel first one way then the other
 9) Issue the command: echo -ne '\377'  /dev/psaux
 10) Issue the command: echo -ne '\364'  /dev/psaux
 11) Repeat steps 5 to 8
 12) Kill the cat - kill number where number is the number
 without the brackets from step 4 - you should get a 'Terminated'
   message
 13) Email me the file /tmp/mousedata

Thank you for taking so much trouble Kent West got my playing with gmpconfig 
and when I got to fuimps2 under type, the mouse moved. This was done with X 
completely shut down.

Best wishes,

Bill.

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Re: Help Please!!

[Kent West]

William Bradley wrote:

On Monday 25 August 2003 11:09 pm, Kent West wrote:
 

Mostly likely the protocol is wrong. I don't remember; is this a wheel
mouse? If so, try fuimps2. You can also type help when asked for the
type during gpmconfig for a list of other protocols to try. Experiment
and see if you get any motion.
   

If we had web cams you could see an old geezer dancing a slightly arthritic 
jig. Clicked on help as you suggested. Tried one, forget which, did not 
work, and then I tried fuimps2 and tested it. Bumped the mouse accidentally 
and it moved. Nearly fell off my chair!! After five days, there finally is 
movement. 

What is next, restart X windows?
 

Whoo-hoo!

Okay, make sure that gpm is configured to repeat raw (either edit 
/etc/gpm.conf, or better, re-run gpmconfig).

Then run dpkg-reconfigure xfree86-server (or is it xfree86-common? I 
can never remember) and when you get to the mouse location section, set 
it to /etc/gpmdata instead of /etc/psaux. (You'd leave it at /etc/psaux 
if you weren't running gpm.)

That should fix your mouse issue in X. Now you can remove the exit 0 
from /etc/init.d/[xwgk]dm and either reboot or run 
/etc/init.d/[xwgk]dm start to take you back to your graphical login 
screen.

Hopefully you're all set to go now.

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Re: Help Please!!

[William Bradley]

On Tuesday 26 August 2003 02:58 am, Kent West wrote:

 Whoo-hoo!

 bit premature it seems. (Sigh!)

 Okay, make sure that gpm is configured to repeat raw (either edit
 /etc/gpm.conf, or better, re-run gpmconfig).

When I set up gpmconfig with fuimps the mouse moves when I test it. When I 
get out of gpmconfig it still works.

However when I shutdown -r now when it reboots the mouse is dead again. 
Thinking the gpm server is not working, I entered #gpm but that did not 
change anything.

Then I go back to gpmconfig and get it going again. Sometimes it doesn't 
take on the first configuration and has to be done again and then it will 
work.

Thanks, Bill.


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Re: Help Please!!

[Kent West]

William Bradley wrote:

On Tuesday 26 August 2003 02:58 am, Kent West wrote:

 

Whoo-hoo!
   

 bit premature it seems. (Sigh!)

 

Okay, make sure that gpm is configured to repeat raw (either edit
/etc/gpm.conf, or better, re-run gpmconfig).
   

When I set up gpmconfig with fuimps the mouse moves when I test it. When I 
get out of gpmconfig it still works.

However when I shutdown -r now when it reboots the mouse is dead again. 
Thinking the gpm server is not working, I entered #gpm but that did not 
change anything.

To see if gpm is running, do a ps ax | grep [g]pm; you should get back 
a line similar to:
 371 ?S  1:11 /usr/sbin/gpm -m /dev/psaux -t imps2 -r 25 -Rraw

If not, your gpm script is either not running or is failing. Try 
/etc/init.d/gpm start to start gpm, and then either move the mouse or 
do the above ps command again. If this works, that means the script is 
not running for some reason on boot-up.

Then I go back to gpmconfig and get it going again. Sometimes it doesn't 
take on the first configuration and has to be done again and then it will 
work.
 

This is just weird.

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Re: Help Please!!

[Arnt Karlsen]

On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 10:51:15 -0400, 
William Bradley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Tuesday 26 August 2003 02:58 am, Kent West wrote:
 
  Whoo-hoo!
 
  bit premature it seems. (Sigh!)
 
  Okay, make sure that gpm is configured to repeat raw (either edit
  /etc/gpm.conf, or better, re-run gpmconfig).
 
 When I set up gpmconfig with fuimps the mouse moves when I test
 it. When I get out of gpmconfig it still works.
 
 However when I shutdown -r now when it reboots the mouse is dead
 again. Thinking the gpm server is not working, I entered #gpm but
 that did not change anything.
 
 Then I go back to gpmconfig and get it going again. Sometimes it
 doesn't take on the first configuration and has to be done again and
 then it will work.

..ah, you just need to start the gpm service on bootup, 'man update-rc.d
' for the gory details.  ;-)

..and with X reading /dev/gpmdata, you don't need to restart 
X, only gpm.  ;-)


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Re: Help Please!! Mouse Dead.

[William Bradley]

 On Sunday 24 August 2003 05:09 pm, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
 
   Following is my XF86Config-4 set up for the mouse:
  
   Section InputDevice
Identifier  Configured Mouse
Driver  mouse
Option  CorePointer
Option  Device/dev/psaux
 
  ..use /dev/gpmdata...(or was it gpm-data?)...
 
Option  Protocol  ImPS/2
Option  Emulate3Buttons   true
Option  ZAxisMapping  4 5
   End Section
 
 Thanks Arnt, tried the above and it did not work. The correct one was
 the first, /dev/gpmdata. I had uninstalled gpm but re-installed it
 when you made the above suggestion.

..now get gpm working right in the console first, when it works, 
it's time to restart X.  

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Re: Help Please!!

[William Bradley]

On Sunday 24 August 2003 05:17 pm, you wrote:

  Section InputDevice
   Identifier  Configured Mouse
   Driver  mouse
   Option  CorePointer
   Option  Device/dev/psaux
   Option  Protocol  ImPS/2
   Option  Emulate3Buttons   true
   Option  ZAxisMapping  4 5
  End Section
 
  Section ServerLayout
  [... more blah ...]
  InputDevice Configured Mouse CorePointer
  [... more blah ...]
  EndSection
 My XF86Config-4 has a line in the Configured Mouse Input Device section
 that yours doesn't:

Option  SendCoreEventstrue

 I don't know if that's significant or not.

Thanks Kevin, tried it but it didn't work.

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Re: Help Please!!

[Kent West]

William Bradley wrote:

I have installed Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 rl Woody Official i386.

snip
The mouse did not work. It is an off the
shelf Logitech PS/2 mouse with a wheel. There is nothing wrong with the
mouse, I tested it on the Windows, which will dual boot on the same 
machine.

snip

Following is my XF86Config-4 set up for the mouse:

Section InputDevice
 Identifier  Configured Mouse
 Driver  mouse
 Option  CorePointer
 Option  Device/dev/psaux
 Option  Protocol  ImPS/2
 Option  Emulate3Buttons   true
 Option  ZAxisMapping  4 5
End Section

Section ServerLayout
[... more blah ...]
InputDevice Configured Mouse CorePointer
[... more blah ...]
EndSection

gpm was installed by me but has since been removed. The result either 
way was
the same.

If I enter at the command line: cat /dev/psaux enter then move the 
mouse, it
will write garbage to the screen with the movement of the mouse.


I'd recommend getting the mouse to work with gpm first, as it's simpler 
to diagnose. So, first apt-get install gpm. As part of the install, 
that'll run gpmconfig, and you'll need to specify the mouse location 
to be /dev/psaux, the type to be imps2, and the repeat type to be 
raw (assuming you keep gpm, so it'll repeat the raw data to the X 
mouse driver, which will also entail configuring X to look to 
/dev/gpmdata instead of /dev/psaux).

I know you said the result either way [with gpm or not] was the same, 
but let us know the results again after doing this.

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Re: Help Please!!

[William Bradley]

On Monday 25 August 2003 10:06 am, Kent West wrote:

 I'd recommend getting the mouse to work with gpm first, as it's simpler
 to diagnose. So, first apt-get install gpm. As part of the install,
 that'll run gpmconfig, and you'll need to specify the mouse location
 to be /dev/psaux, the type to be imps2, and the repeat type to be
 raw (assuming you keep gpm, so it'll repeat the raw data to the X
 mouse driver, which will also entail configuring X to look to
 /dev/gpmdata instead of /dev/psaux).

Hello Kent,

I was just about to remove Debian. I have been trying to get this off the 
shelf PS/2 wheel mouse working for five days. Your suggestion was a new 
direction, so I made a completely new install and tried it. The answer was 
still the same. The arrow sits in the middle of the screen immobile.

Frankly I find this astonishing, from all that I have heard about Debian. 
Searching the internet I came across another fellow having the same problem 
in an earlier Debian system. On another list that I read, someone else was 
going through the same problem.

I'm not an expert by any means but I have installed a variety of linux systems 
from Dragon Linux, early Slackware, Corel Linux, three versions of Red Hat 
and then three versions of Mandrake, the latest, 9.2, is what I am using 
here, and Suse 8.1. Never once, in all of these, have I had a mouse problem. 
Had a printer problem in the early stuff until I went to a postscript 
printer, but never the mouse.

It does leave me a bit perplexed.

Thank you  for your response and I will follow any further advice you might 
have to see if I can get this mouse moving.

Bill.


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Re: Help Please!!

[Kent West]

William Bradley wrote:

On Monday 25 August 2003 10:06 am, Kent West wrote:

 

I'd recommend getting the mouse to work with gpm first, as it's simpler
to diagnose. So, first apt-get install gpm. As part of the install,
that'll run gpmconfig, and you'll need to specify the mouse location
to be /dev/psaux, the type to be imps2, and the repeat type to be
raw (assuming you keep gpm, so it'll repeat the raw data to the X
mouse driver, which will also entail configuring X to look to
/dev/gpmdata instead of /dev/psaux).
   

Hello Kent,

I was just about to remove Debian. I have been trying to get this off the 
shelf PS/2 wheel mouse working for five days. Your suggestion was a new 
direction, so I made a completely new install and tried it. The answer was 
still the same. The arrow sits in the middle of the screen immobile.

 

Sorry; I guess I didn't make myself clear. Forget completely about X for 
now; in fact, you might want to even disable the graphical login screen 
(add exit 0 as the first non-comment line in the appropriate script: 
/etc/init.d/gdm or kdm or xdm or wdm and then reboot). Get the mouse 
working in the non-X console first via gpm. Once that's working, then 
you can worry about X.

If I remember correctly, you said this mouse works fine in Windows on 
the same box. I guess that means the mouse has not been 
unplugged/replugged, with the attendant possibilities of broken/bent 
pins, bad connection, etc?

In the text console, using gpm, you should see a white rectangle as your 
mouse pointer. It should function just as a pointer should, only it'll 
be rectangular instead of pointy. Do not try to configure gpm from 
within X! Get out of X completely to do this. Kill X. Exit X. Do not 
start X. Forget X. Ex X.

Let us know what the result of that is and we'll go from there.

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Re: Help, please! telnet down, smtp not available, pam screwy

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 Exim's panic logfile shows TCP service smtp not found

...that suggests that /etc/services is corrupt...

 daddy:~# telnet localhost
 telnet: could not resolve localhost/telnet: Servname not supported for
 ai_socktype

...as does this.  You probably need to reinstall the netbase package,
using --force-confnew or --force-confmiss to force dpkg to reinstall
the configuration file.  (--force-confnew will overwrite
/etc/protocols, /etc/rpc, /etc/services, and /etc/init.d/networking,
but it seems unlikely that you'd manually edit these; enough things
depend on netbase that purging and reinstalling it won't work.)

/etc/services contains a mapping from a service name to a TCP or UDP
port number, so things can use names rather than well-known port
numbers.  I'd expect programs to contain fallbacks -- even if
/etc/services doesn't contain an entry for smtp, port 25 is fairly
well-known -- but apparently neither exim nor telnet do.

 Last, but quite annoying, I get log messages about cron(pam_unix) going
 every 15 minutes.  I didn't realize this was a normal job, but now knoww it
 for sure with the messages and the persistent --MARK-- messages.

I get that too; I haven't figured out a good way to disable it yet
(though I haven't looked hard); I'd be happier making logcheck not
send me mail about it, which should be easier to fix.  It does seem to
be normal, and an artifact of exim setting up a cron job to
periodically run its outgoing mail queue.

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Re: Help, please! telnet down, smtp not available, pam screwy

[Kenward Vaughan]

My thanks to all who responded (including Thomas Shemanske via private
notes) to my messages (the first one appears to have arrived after the
second, at least here) about the RPC services.  The notes came from
different accounts as I scrambled about trying to get outside my LAN.

As mentioned by several, the problem turned out to be /etc/services, which
was overwritten somehow by /lib/security/pam_userdb.so (identical
sizes/dates and diff gave a blank, but different inodes).  A backup copy of
services worked, but I am going to look at the suggestion that other
critical files may be overwritten.

The first note I tried to send on this included a description about the
overwriting of /etc/issue as well.  This I also fixed, but I wonder if the
problems involve a rogue script somewhere in a .deb package.  I'd like to
file a bug against it, but don't know what eveidence to look for if this is
indeed the problem.  I'm still suspicious of pam.  Does anyone have a
suggestion about that?

Again, I appreciate the fast help!


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Re: Help please, apt-get update failing

[Rob Weir]

On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 02:17:23PM -0500, stan wrote:
 I'm getting the following error sequence:
 
 Get:1 ftp://ftp.tux.org woody/non-free Release
 Ign ftp://ftp.tux.org woody/non-free Release
 Reading Package Lists... Error!
 E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room
 E: Error occured while processing eboard-extras-pack1 (NewFileVer1)
 E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/dpkg/status
 E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
 
 What should I do to correct this?

Search the list archives on lists.debian.org.  This has come up at least
half a dozen times in the last month.

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Re: Help-please: sunffb

[sean finney]

i've gotten debian to run in X on ultrasparcs, but unfortunately the
ones i have use a different graphics card.  i have a couple questions
for you though.

- does your kernel support your graphics card / fb?
- did you try installing with the appropriate debian package?

if yes to both of those, try installing the discover, mdetect, and
read-edid packages, and then re-installing your xserver and reconfiguring
it.

hth, good luck,
sean

On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 03:01:24PM -0800, Tom Huggett wrote:
 I am trying to install x-win for woody on a Sun Ultra 5 with sunffb video.
 tasksel allows sunffb selection but not configuration.
 dselect did not show sunffb.
 Executing XFreeConfig did not show the drivers.
 XFree86  4.1.0, 4.2.0  4.2.1 'Xinstall.sh -check' returns
 No Linux binaries available for this architecture...sparc64...
 Forcing Xinstall.sh causes extract, extract.exe  extract.save to fail
 And be appended as .bad
 During boot
 xdm reports
 (EE) no devices found
 fatal server error
 no screen found
 after blinking two times  displaying character mode,
 I suspect I forgot something
 But I do not know what.
 My apologies if this is already documented.
 
 I am targeting this for a home controller gateway.
 Initially I wish to configure the rs-232c port to HVAC system
 And later specializing in devices for elder in-home care.
 
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Re: HELP, PLEASE!! Apt-Get update Errors

[Jerome Acks Jr]

On Sun, Dec 01, 2002 at 05:23:09PM -0800, Xavian-Anderson Macpherson wrote:
 I think I read somewhere that there is a problem with one of the libraries
 causing APT-GET UPDATE to fial.  I keep getting the same error; UNABLE TO
 PARSE PACKAGE FILE  /VAR/LIB/DPKG/STATUS (1).  I would really appreciate
 someone telling me how to resolve this.  I am running the testing (with some
 packages from the unstable) branch of Debian 3.0.  Everything else works just
 fine.

mv /var/lib/dpkg/status to_another_name
cp /var/lib/dpkg/status-old /var/lib/dpkg/status

If that does not correct the problem, you can find previous backups of
/var/lib/dpkg/status in /var/backups.

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Re: Help please, getting lird working

[Romuald DELAVERGNE]

Le 2002.01.10 19:07, Stan Brown a écrit :
 Can someone please tell me what it takes to get the IR remote working on
 my
 WinTV card. It plays TV fine, but even after installing the lird, and
 lird
 modules package, I can't get it to work in fbtv.
 
 

I checked this url http://www.lirc.org/tv_cards.html
and your TV card is not mentionned. But that's don't mean that your card is
not supported.
I suggested you to post your question in the lirc mailling list if you
can't get information in archives.

Re: HELP! please, the packaging system has a package stuck in it's craw!

[dman]

On Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 11:20:26AM -0500, Stan Brown wrote:
| I'm trying to upgrade a machine from progeny, to woody.
| 
| At the moment my main problem is that the packaging system has the package
| trafstats stuck in it's craw, and I cna't seem to get it out!
| 
| dselect shows it as status C, and I'v tried removing it wiht various
| invocations of dselect dpkg, and apt-get. but i have not gotten it out.
| 
| At this point, I just want to forcibly remove all traces of this programs.
| 
| Whan can I do to acomplish this?

dpkg -r --force-something trafstats

Check the manpage for the proper --force-* option.

What is the message given as to why dpkg won't remove the package?
There may be a better way to get rid of it.

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Re: Help please, setting up lm-sensors

[Michael Heldebrant]

On Fri, 2001-12-14 at 21:20, Stan Brown wrote:
 I;ve got a new machine with a custom 2.4.16 kernel. I have managed to get
 lm-sensors built, and the modules load. However sensor-detect does not give
 me enough info to get the rest set up.
 
 The machine is a Epox EP-8KTA3PRO  with a VIA KT133A chipset.
 
 Here is a typescript of the sensors detect run:
 
 
 Script started on Fri Dec 14 21:35:36 2001
 progeny:~# sensors-detect
  This program will help you to determine which I2C/SMBus modules you need to
  load to use lm_sensors most effectively.
  You need to have installed lm-sensors modules
  before you can use some functions of this utility.
  Also, you need to be root', or at least have access to
  the /dev/i2c* files for some things. If you have patched your kernel and 
 have some drivers built-in you can
  safely answer NO if asked to load some modules. In this case, things may
  seem a bit confusing, but they will still work.
 
  We can start with probing for (PCI) I2C or SMBus adapters.
  You do not need any special privileges for this.
  Do you want to probe now? (YES/no): 
 Probing for PCI bus adapters...
 Use driver `i2c-viapro' for device 00:07.4: VIA Technologies VT 82C686 Apollo 
 ACPI
 Probe succesfully concluded.
 
  We will now try to load each adapter module in turn.
 Load `i2c-viapro' (say NO if built into your kernel)? (YES/no): 
 Module loaded succesfully.
  Do you now want to be prompted for non-detectable adapters? (yes/NO): 
  To continue, we need module `i2c-dev' to be loaded.
  If it is built-in into your kernel, you can safely skip this.
  i2c-dev is not loaded. Do you want to load it now? (YES/no): 
  Module loaded succesfully.
 
  We are now going to do the adapter probings. Some adapters may hang halfway
  through; we can't really help that. Also, some chips will be double detected;
  we choose the one with the highest confidence value in that case.
  If you found that the adapter hung after probing a certain address, you can
  specify that address to remain unprobed. If you have a PIIX4, that often
  includes addresses 0x69 and/or 0x6a.
 
 Next adapter: SMBus vt82c596 adapter at 5000 (Non-I2C SMBus adapter)
 Do you want to scan it? (YES/no/selectively): 
 Can't open /dev/i2c0 (No such file or directory)
  
Do you have this file in your /dev directory?  If not, MAKEDEV i2c will
make the device nodes for you.  If you are using devfs you're going to
have some fun trying to debug why they don't show up.  Once you get the
dev files you should be able to get the right chips detected and
proceed.

--mike

Re: Help please, setting up lm-sensors

[Marc Wilson]

On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 10:20:14PM -0500, Stan Brown wrote:
 Can't open /dev/i2c0 (No such file or directory)

The module loads successfully (so the hardware is there), but you can't
talk to it, which seems to say to me that the entry in /dev is missing.

Check that first.

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Re: Help please, setting up lm-sensors

[David Z Maze]

Stan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
SB I;ve got a new machine with a custom 2.4.16 kernel. I have managed to get
SB lm-sensors built, and the modules load. However sensor-detect does not give
SB me enough info to get the rest set up.

SB Next adapter: SMBus vt82c596 adapter at 5000 (Non-I2C SMBus adapter)
SB Do you want to scan it? (YES/no/selectively): 
SB Can't open /dev/i2c0 (No such file or directory)

This looks wrong (either /dev/i2c/0 or /dev/i2c-0 would be
plausible).  Looking through the sensors-detect source, though (it's
just a Perl script), it tries all three of i2c-0, i2c0, and i2c/0.

What version of lm-sensors are you using?  Of i2c?

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Re: Help please, setting up lm-sensors

[Stan Brown]

On Sat Dec 15 11:03:05 2001 David Z Maze wrote...

Stan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
SB I;ve got a new machine with a custom 2.4.16 kernel. I have managed to get
SB lm-sensors built, and the modules load. However sensor-detect does not give
SB me enough info to get the rest set up.

SB Next adapter: SMBus vt82c596 adapter at 5000 (Non-I2C SMBus adapter)
SB Do you want to scan it? (YES/no/selectively): 
SB Can't open /dev/i2c0 (No such file or directory)

This looks wrong (either /dev/i2c/0 or /dev/i2c-0 would be
plausible).  Looking through the sensors-detect source, though (it's
just a Perl script), it tries all three of i2c-0, i2c0, and i2c/0.

What version of lm-sensors are you using?  Of i2c?


Im really not certain how to tell. Both are the version form the Debain
-source package for testing. Looking in the CHANGES file, the latest
version mentioned in both is 2.6.1

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Re: Help please, setting up lm-sensors

[David Z Maze]

Stan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
SB On Sat Dec 15 11:03:05 2001 David Z Maze wrote...
 DZM Stan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  SB I;ve got a new machine with a custom 2.4.16 kernel. I have
  SB managed to get lm-sensors built, and the modules load. However
  SB sensor-detect does not give me enough info to get the rest set
  SB up.
 DZM 
  SB Next adapter: SMBus vt82c596 adapter at 5000 (Non-I2C SMBus adapter)
  SB Do you want to scan it? (YES/no/selectively): 
  SB Can't open /dev/i2c0 (No such file or directory)
 DZM 
 DZM This looks wrong (either /dev/i2c/0 or /dev/i2c-0 would be
 DZM plausible).  Looking through the sensors-detect source, though
 DZM (it's just a Perl script), it tries all three of i2c-0, i2c0,
 DZM and i2c/0.
 DZM 
 DZM What version of lm-sensors are you using?  Of i2c?
SB 
SB Im really not certain how to tell. Both are the version form the
SB Debain -source package for testing. Looking in the CHANGES file,
SB the latest version mentioned in both is 2.6.1

The right way to check is to do 'dpkg -s lm-sensors-2.4.16' and 'dpkg
-s i2c-2.4.16', and look for the Version there.  The reported versions
should be something like '2.6.1-1+2.4.16', depending on the version of
the source you built and the --revision you built your kernel with.

Other things that come to mind: 'modprobe i2c-dev' as root.  Do you
have a /dev/i2c directory then?  Does your new kernel use devfs?  Did
your old one?  (If you do, /dev will show up in /proc/mounts, and
you'll probably have a /dev/.devfsd special device.)  If you're not
using devfs, you need to make sure that the i2c devices exist in /dev,
doing (as someone else suggested) '/sbin/MAKEDEV i2c'.

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Re: Help please, setting up lm-sensors

[Stan Brown]

On Sat Dec 15 11:58:04 2001 David Z Maze wrote...

Stan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
SB On Sat Dec 15 11:03:05 2001 David Z Maze wrote...
 DZM Stan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  SB I;ve got a new machine with a custom 2.4.16 kernel. I have
  SB managed to get lm-sensors built, and the modules load. However
  SB sensor-detect does not give me enough info to get the rest set
  SB up.
 DZM 
  SB Next adapter: SMBus vt82c596 adapter at 5000 (Non-I2C SMBus adapter)
  SB Do you want to scan it? (YES/no/selectively): 
  SB Can't open /dev/i2c0 (No such file or directory)
 DZM 
 DZM This looks wrong (either /dev/i2c/0 or /dev/i2c-0 would be
 DZM plausible).  Looking through the sensors-detect source, though
 DZM (it's just a Perl script), it tries all three of i2c-0, i2c0,
 DZM and i2c/0.
 DZM 
 DZM What version of lm-sensors are you using?  Of i2c?
SB 
SB Im really not certain how to tell. Both are the version form the
SB Debain -source package for testing. Looking in the CHANGES file,
SB the latest version mentioned in both is 2.6.1

The right way to check is to do 'dpkg -s lm-sensors-2.4.16' and 'dpkg
-s i2c-2.4.16', and look for the Version there.  The reported versions
should be something like '2.6.1-1+2.4.16', depending on the version of
the source you built and the --revision you built your kernel with.

OK,

Source: lm-sensors (2.6.1-3)
Source: i2c (2.6.1-1)


Other things that come to mind: 'modprobe i2c-dev' as root.  Do you
have a /dev/i2c directory then?  Does your new kernel use devfs?  Did
your old one?  (If you do, /dev will show up in /proc/mounts, and
you'll probably have a /dev/.devfsd special device.)  If you're not
using devfs, you need to make sure that the i2c devices exist in /dev,
doing (as someone else suggested) '/sbin/MAKEDEV i2c'.

progeny:~# modprobe i2c-dev
progeny:~# lsmod
Module  Size  Used by
i2c-dev 3968   0  (unused)
i2c-core   13200   0  [i2c-dev]
mousedev4432   1 
input   3584   0  [mousedev]
emu10k155696   0  (unused)
sound  54992   0  [emu10k1]
ide-scsi7616   0 


progeny:~# ls /dev/i2*
/dev/i2c-0   /dev/i2c-14  /dev/i2c-2   /dev/i2c-25  /dev/i2c-30  /dev/i2c-8
/dev/i2c-1   /dev/i2c-15  /dev/i2c-20  /dev/i2c-26  /dev/i2c-31  /dev/i2c-9
/dev/i2c-10  /dev/i2c-16  /dev/i2c-21  /dev/i2c-27  /dev/i2c-4
/dev/i2c-11  /dev/i2c-17  /dev/i2c-22  /dev/i2c-28  /dev/i2c-5
/dev/i2c-12  /dev/i2c-18  /dev/i2c-23  /dev/i2c-29  /dev/i2c-6
/dev/i2c-13  /dev/i2c-19  /dev/i2c-24  /dev/i2c-3   /dev/i2c-7

The machien has never had /dev/fsd on it.

I ran /sbin/MAKEDEV 12c (when did it move there from /devg ?) with no
complaints, but even after all of this, I wind up with this:

#cut here
# I2C adapter drivers
# I2C chip drivers
#cut here

To make the sensors modules behave correctly, add these lines to 
/etc/modutils/local and run update-modules:

#cut here
# I2C module options
alias char-major-89 i2c-dev
#cut here

When I run sensors-detect.

What else can I try?

Thanks for the help.

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Re: Help please, geting framebuffer working

[Cameron Matheson]

Hi,

try changing your vga param (not in append, but it has it's own line in
lilo.conf to 'vga=794' instead of 'vga=normal'

Cameron Matheson


On Wed, 2001-12-12 at 15:34, Stan Brown wrote:
 On Wed Dec 12 00:20:27 2001 dman wrote...
 
 | Adding video=vesa made lilo fail to run, I also tried it in an
 | append statment, still no framebuffer.
 
 For lilo both vga= and video= should be in append.  I've also read
 for older versions of lilo that it didn't handle hex numbers correctly
 so you would need to translate that vga= into decimal for it.
 
 OK, so I added:
 append=video-vesa vga=0x31a
 
 Re-ran lilom and rebooted, still nof cute little Penguin
 
 
 Any more ideas?
 
 
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Re: Help please, geting framebuffer working

[briand]

 dman == dman  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  dman | NO, joy there either. I assume you mean append=video=vesa vga=794,
  dman | right?

  dman Yeah.  I copy-n-pasted from above, but didn't look closely at that
  dman part.

  dman Have you tried a lower resolution?  The whole table of mode numbers is
  dman given in .../Documentation/fb/vesa.txt.gz.

I think you can also use vga=ask, in which case you will get a choice
of modes.

Brian

Re: Help please, geting framebuffer working

[Stan Brown]

On Thu Dec 13 01:59:04 2001 wrote...

 dman == dman  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  dman | NO, joy there either. I assume you mean append=video=vesa vga=794,
  dman | right?

  dman Yeah.  I copy-n-pasted from above, but didn't look closely at that
  dman part.

  dman Have you tried a lower resolution?  The whole table of mode numbers is
  dman given in .../Documentation/fb/vesa.txt.gz.

I think you can also use vga=ask, in which case you will get a choice
of modes.


Well, I tried that (along with about a hundred other coombinations), and it
allowed me to choose a higher resolutin, but did not get the vesa
frambufffer working.

This is getting to be _very) frustrtating. I've been trying to get
frambuffer working corectly for about 3 days now :-(

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Re: Help please, geting framebuffer working

[Josh McKinney]

On approximately Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 06:46:19PM -0500, Stan Brown wrote:
 I've just installed wood on a machine with an ATI Radeon LE video card. The
 I built a new kernel (2.4.16) using kernel-package.
 
 First I tried enabling the framebuffer Radeon support in the kernel, but
 the results were not so good. The first console gets messed up during the
 boot up messages, and winds up unuasble to log in on (lookes like it might
 get left in raw tty mode). Then if I run fbi, the colors of the displayed
 images are all wrong.
 
I have vga=792 set in lilo.conf, not in the append section!

Then in the append section you need something like this:

for vesa : append=video=vesa:mtrr:pmipal:pro:ywrap

or for radeon : append=video=radeonfb:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

I use rivafb with the above line, but from looking at the source it uses modedb 
also.  There is
also Documentation in the kernel source that tells you how to do all of this.  
8)

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Re: Help please, geting framebuffer working

[Stan Brown]

On Wed Dec 12 00:20:27 2001 dman wrote...

| Adding video=vesa made lilo fail to run, I also tried it in an
| append statment, still no framebuffer.

For lilo both vga= and video= should be in append.  I've also read
for older versions of lilo that it didn't handle hex numbers correctly
so you would need to translate that vga= into decimal for it.

OK, so I added:
append=video-vesa vga=0x31a

Re-ran lilom and rebooted, still nof cute little Penguin


Any more ideas?


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Re: Help please, geting framebuffer working

[dman]

On Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 05:34:11PM -0500, Stan Brown wrote:
| On Wed Dec 12 00:20:27 2001 dman wrote...
| 
| | Adding video=vesa made lilo fail to run, I also tried it in an
| | append statment, still no framebuffer.
| 
| For lilo both vga= and video= should be in append.  I've also read
| for older versions of lilo that it didn't handle hex numbers correctly
| so you would need to translate that vga= into decimal for it.
| 
| OK, so I added:
| append=video-vesa vga=0x31a
| 
| Re-ran lilom and rebooted, still nof cute little Penguin
| 
| Any more ideas?

How about

append=video-vesa vga=794

?

How about trying a lower resolution (I tried 1600x1200 once, and got
nothing because (I think) the vid. card can't get that high).

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Re: Help please, geting framebuffer working

[Stan Brown]

On Wed Dec 12 22:39:50 2001 dman wrote...

On Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 05:34:11PM -0500, Stan Brown wrote:
| On Wed Dec 12 00:20:27 2001 dman wrote...
| 
| | Adding video=vesa made lilo fail to run, I also tried it in an
| | append statment, still no framebuffer.
| 
| For lilo both vga= and video= should be in append.  I've also read
| for older versions of lilo that it didn't handle hex numbers correctly
| so you would need to translate that vga= into decimal for it.
| 
| OK, so I added:
| append=video-vesa vga=0x31a
| 
| Re-ran lilom and rebooted, still nof cute little Penguin
| 
| Any more ideas?

How about

append=video-vesa vga=794


NO, joy there either. I assume you mean append=video=vesa vga=794,
right?

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Re: Help please, geting framebuffer working

[dman]

On Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 11:10:42PM -0500, Stan Brown wrote:
| On Wed Dec 12 22:39:50 2001 dman wrote...
| On Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 05:34:11PM -0500, Stan Brown wrote:
| | On Wed Dec 12 00:20:27 2001 dman wrote...
| | 
| | For lilo both vga= and video= should be in append.  I've also read
| | for older versions of lilo that it didn't handle hex numbers correctly
| | so you would need to translate that vga= into decimal for it.
| | 
| | OK, so I added:
| | append=video-vesa vga=0x31a
| | 
| | Re-ran lilom and rebooted, still nof cute little Penguin
| | 
| | Any more ideas?
| 
| How about
| 
| append=video-vesa vga=794
| 
| 
| NO, joy there either. I assume you mean append=video=vesa vga=794,
| right?

Yeah.  I copy-n-pasted from above, but didn't look closely at that
part.

Have you tried a lower resolution?  The whole table of mode numbers is
given in .../Documentation/fb/vesa.txt.gz.

-D

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Re: Help please, geting framebuffer working

[dman]

On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 06:46:19PM -0500, Stan Brown wrote:
| I've just installed wood on a machine with an ATI Radeon LE video card. The
| I built a new kernel (2.4.16) using kernel-package.
| 
| First I tried enabling the framebuffer Radeon support in the kernel, but
| the results were not so good. The first console gets messed up during the
| boot up messages, and winds up unuasble to log in on (lookes like it might
| get left in raw tty mode). Then if I run fbi, the colors of the displayed
| images are all wrong.
| 
| Soem kind soul on this list advised me the thet the ATI Radeon framebuffer
| support is very imature, so I decided to try the VESA framebuffer mode.

I tried the 'atyfb' driver with an ATI Rage P/M Mobility, but didn't
get anything.

| I enabled it in the kernel, and rebooted, but I did not get a frambuffer,
| juts plain old console.
| 
| I've read the framebuffer HOWTO, but it seems a bit too old to help me.

It's not too old, mainly.

| What am I doing wrong?

# grep ^kernel /boot/grub/menu.list
kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.16-custom.1 root=/dev/hda4 read-only video=vesa 
vga=0x31A

notice the 'vga' argument (and the 'video' argument, but I don't think
it is necessary for VESA).  Some of the modes are :

   Video modes :
640 x  480 x 16 = 0x311
800 x  600 x 16 = 0x314
   1024 x  768 x 16 = 0x317
   1280 x  960 x 16 = 0x???
   1280 x 1024 x 16 = 0x31A
   1600 x 1200 x 16 = 0x31E

800 x  600 x 24 = 0x315
   1024 x  768 x 24 = 0x318
   1280 x 1024 x 24 = 0x31B

HTH,
-D

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Re: Help please, geting framebuffer working

[Stan Brown]

On Tue Dec 11 19:41:19 2001 dman wrote...

On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 06:46:19PM -0500, Stan Brown wrote:
| I've just installed wood on a machine with an ATI Radeon LE video card. The
| I built a new kernel (2.4.16) using kernel-package.
| 
| First I tried enabling the framebuffer Radeon support in the kernel, but
| the results were not so good. The first console gets messed up during the
| boot up messages, and winds up unuasble to log in on (lookes like it might
| get left in raw tty mode). Then if I run fbi, the colors of the displayed
| images are all wrong.
| 
| Soem kind soul on this list advised me the thet the ATI Radeon framebuffer
| support is very imature, so I decided to try the VESA framebuffer mode.

I tried the 'atyfb' driver with an ATI Rage P/M Mobility, but didn't
get anything.

| I enabled it in the kernel, and rebooted, but I did not get a frambuffer,
| juts plain old console.
| 
| I've read the framebuffer HOWTO, but it seems a bit too old to help me.

It's not too old, mainly.

| What am I doing wrong?

# grep ^kernel /boot/grub/menu.list
kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.16-custom.1 root=/dev/hda4 read-only video=vesa 
vga=0x31A

If I do vag=ask in lilo.conf, than it does stop and prompt me for a
resolutin, however, I still don;t get framebuffer. Adding video=vesa made
lilo fail to run, I also tried it in an append statment, still no
framebuffer.

Is it possible that my Radeon cards aren't VESA 2.0 compliant? 

If so, can anyone point me to a place to talk to the Radeon frambuffer
developers?

I've got 6 of these cards, and i don't want to have to buy 6 more cards :-(


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Re: Help please, geting framebuffer working

[dman]

On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 11:58:05PM -0500, Stan Brown wrote:
| On Tue Dec 11 19:41:19 2001 dman wrote...
| On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 06:46:19PM -0500, Stan Brown wrote:
...
| | I enabled it in the kernel, and rebooted, but I did not get a frambuffer,
| | juts plain old console.
| | 
| | I've read the framebuffer HOWTO, but it seems a bit too old to help me.
| 
| It's not too old, mainly.
| 
| | What am I doing wrong?
| 
| # grep ^kernel /boot/grub/menu.list
| kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.16-custom.1 root=/dev/hda4 read-only 
video=vesa vga=0x31A
| 
| If I do vag=ask in lilo.conf, than it does stop and prompt me for a
| resolutin, however, I still don;t get framebuffer.

Right.  If you check the docs
(/usr/share/doc/kernel-doc-version/Documentation/fb/vesa.txt.gz)
you'll see that the ask only shows VGA modes (text console) in the
list.  You need to choose a number not in the list (like 0x31A) to get
the framebuffer.

| Adding video=vesa made lilo fail to run, I also tried it in an
| append statment, still no framebuffer.

For lilo both vga= and video= should be in append.  I've also read
for older versions of lilo that it didn't handle hex numbers correctly
so you would need to translate that vga= into decimal for it.

| Is it possible that my Radeon cards aren't VESA 2.0 compliant? 

Anything is possible, but I would expect every current card to be
compliant.

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Re: Help Please! end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00 (flopp), sector 0

[Oki DZ]

On Tue, 4 Dec 2001, Stan Brown wrote:
 adding a buynch of packages, which unfortunatley I don't remeber all of, it
 started giving the error in the subject line every 5 minutes or so. 
 
 This makes this machine almost unusable on the local console!
 
 Has anyone else seen this, can they tell me what package to delete to stop
 this?

Did you take out your floppy from the drive without unmounted it?

Oki

Re: help please

[Colin Watson]

On Sun, Nov 25, 2001 at 04:07:05PM -, Clive Leonard wrote:
 I have now installed Debian, and it boots up from HHD and leaves me in
 a text only mode. All I can seem to do is log in and out as root (or
 user) and do nothing else!
 
 I don't know, but surely debian has some form of GUI?

Of course - just 'apt-get install task-x-window-system', which among
other things will install a display manager so you won't boot into
text-only mode. There are many, many GUI-related packages available, but
see the installation manual for how to use the packaging system to
acquire them. You might like, for example, to install
task-gnome-desktop, which will install the basic desktop from the GNOME
project.

(Further followups should probably go to debian-user only;
Mail-Followup-To: set.)

Regards,

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Re: Help Please.

[Dmitriy Kropivnitskiy]

Generic advice.

1. Get a set of small screw drivers, grounding strip and a set of small 
stickers, the kind you can write on.
2. Clear some large table space.
3. Put laptop on table space, ground yourself and start taking it apart.
4. Every part you take lable with a sticker and write a number on it, so that 
you are sure what order you took parts out in. Also if a part is affixed with 
screwes, put screwes together with the part itself ( like on top or right 
beside ).
5. When you see the battery - replace.
6. Reverse things you did in step 4.

On Thursday 15 November 2001 09:20 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi
I am pretty handy when it comes to fixing PC type products, But I
 recently purchased a bios battery for my thinkpad 755c and I need some help
 t o replace it.
  Are you the right person? Or Can you point me in the right direction.

 Thanks In Advance
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Re: Help Please, reinstalling grub boot blocks

[A.R. \(Tom\) Peters]

On Sun, 21 Oct 2001, Stan Brown wrote:

 I'm in the process of tyring to to recover from a failed root disk.
 
 I have managed to get all the files copied over to the new drive sucesfully
 (I believe). The root disk consists of 2 filesystem partitons.
 
 / and /boot which are /dev/hde4 and /dev/hde1 respectivly.
 
 I can now boot using the rescue floppy wiht rescue root=/dev/hde4.
 I have been using grub for a boot loader on this system, so I know that
 it's configuration files are correct. However, I can't seem to get it to
 reinstall the boot blocks. 
 
 Can anyone give me some advice on how to do this, or pointers to a
 tutorial, or other docs?

There was a useful article on grub in the Linux Journal of May 2001.

When grub comes up, you can go to command mode with 'c'.

I must admit that, since your /boot/ is on another partition than / , I
don't know how to tell grub about that.

Some caveats:

* grub counts disks and partitions from 0, not from 1
* if you moved disks, their identity changed and the grub menu.lst will
have improper names for them
* only master IDE disks are bootable; hde sounds far down the chain.

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Re: Help Please, reinstalling grub boot blocks

[Stan Brown]

On Sun Oct 21 18:05:36 2001 A.R. (Tom) Peters wrote...

There was a useful article on grub in the Linux Journal of May 2001.

Mmm, I'll look that up thanks.

When grub comes up, you can go to command mode with 'c'.

I must admit that, since your /boot/ is on another partition than / , I
don't know how to tell grub about that.

Some caveats:

* grub counts disks and partitions from 0, not from 1
* if you moved disks, their identity changed and the grub menu.lst will
have improper names for them
* only master IDE disks are bootable; hde sounds far down the chain.


It's a Compaq proliant, and the _real_ controlers on are an add in PCI
card, not the motehrboard. The BISo can boot from them.

First controler
---
Priary HDA Slave HDB

Second controler
---
Priary HDC Slave HDD

Third controler
---
Priary HDE Slave HDF

Fourth controler
---
Priary HDG Slave HDH

The trick turns out to be hat if you want to put the boot block in the MBR
of the hard disk, you have to first make a grub boot floppy, then boot from
it. Then you can setip the hard drive. 

I had fought this a couple of weeks agao, and acidently stumbled upon a
working combination, but I did not understand why. Today I found a tiny
note in the Grub docs that sort of aludes to this.

Thanks for the help.
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Re: Help PLEASE, Can't rlogin to myslef!

[Vineet Kumar]

* Stan Brown ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [011010 07:54]:
 I'm trying to get a Debian stable box set up to be a Amanda tapehiots.
 
 It's _almost_ working. The only serious remaining problem is that it can't
 see it self! This can be exhibited by atempteing to rlogi8n or rsh from
 itself to itself. if I try to rlogin, I get:
 
 debuan.xxx.com: Invalid argument
 
 If I try to rsh, I get:
 
 Rhe same thing.
 
 The amanda debug file says:
 
 send req failed: invalid argument
 
 The machine is a potato machine, with the Progeny upgrades, and the 2.4.9
 kernel.
 
 It's name is in /etc/hosts both as the simple, and FQDN formates. It;s
 resovable in the DNS, bith foward, and reverse. I tride changing
 /etc/nsswitch.conf so that it checks dns before the local files.
 
 No change in the failuer. 
 
 What;s _reallY- wierd, is I have a similarly setup machine at home, and it
 works fine!
 
 Sugetstions, Testing methodlogyies?

Try it by IP address

Try it by 127.0.0.1

can you ping 127.0.0.1? Is your lo interface configured?

If all of that checks out, see if you acutually have (shudder) rsh and
rlogin daemons running. For that you could try netstat, lsof, or nmap.

good times,

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Re: help please - kppp connection wont work

[Brian Potkin]

On Sat, Sep 22, 2001 at 05:38:29AM +, todd mansill wrote:

 Hi All,
 
 I have an urgent problem and I need some help please:
 
 I can't get kppp to work - when I try to connect I get the following
 error message in the log window:
 
 The remote server is required to authenticate itself but I couldn't
 find any suitable secret(password) for it to use to do so.  (None of
 the available passwords would let it use an IP address.)
 
 How do I fix this problem - I am very new to this please help.
 
 Thanks heaps Todd

You are asking the remote server to login (authenticate itself) to your
system.  It won't.

Not being familiar with kppp I am unable to point you to which tab you
click on but you should be able to achieve what you want by editing
/etc/ppp/peers/provider.  You may have given your own name for
`provider'.

The option you want is noauth.  Put this in the file.  The default in
/etc/ppp/options is auth but you do not want to alter this.

Read man pppd and search the Debian mailing lists for more information.
If you haven't already done so investigate using pppconfig as an
alternative to kppp to set up a dialup connection.  Personally, it is
what I would use.

Brian.

Re: help please - kppp connection wont work

[John Hasler]

Todd writes:
 I can't get kppp to work -

Forget kppp.  Run pppconfig as root to configure ppp, and then use pon to
start ppp and poff to stop it.  If you must have a GUI install gpppon,
which is a GUI wrapper around pon and poff.
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