Re: Using a Debian Stretch netinstaller image as a Rescue Disk

2018-08-17 Thread john doe

On 8/17/2018 4:05 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:

Yes, once language and keyboard get selected type the less than
character.  That should get you a numbered menu on the screen.  One of
those numbers will allow you to execute a shell.  When I do a debian
install, I like to get into this menu as soon as possible since I save
install logs to disk and like to set priority to low and then continue


You can also set the priority to low using boot kernel parameter or 
selecting "expert mode" which does that per default.


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Re: Using a Debian Stretch netinstaller image as a Rescue Disk

2018-08-17 Thread Jude DaShiell
Yes, once language and keyboard get selected type the less than
character.  That should get you a numbered menu on the screen.  One of
those numbers will allow you to execute a shell.  When I do a debian
install, I like to get into this menu as soon as possible since I save
install logs to disk and like to set priority to low and then continue
with the installation which then becomes pretty close to expert mode.

If doing a normal install with the numbered menu the default selection
will increase through the numbers as steps are completed, so if you have
normal installation going you just need to hit return to get the next
step going.
On Thu, 16 Aug 2018, Martin McCormick wrote:

> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2018 13:14:54
> From: Martin McCormick 
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Using a Debian Stretch netinstaller image as a Rescue Disk
> Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2018 17:15:34 + (UTC)
> Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>
>   I am familiar with using the debian netinstaller images
> for stretch and earlier versions and they boot up with
> installation of debian as their primary purpose but after the
> installation is complete, there is a rescue screen in which one
> can run a shell and a few utilities to mount the boot drive and
> maybe do fsck and so forth.
>
>   Maybe I am missing something obvious but is there a way
> to boot the CD, select language and keyboard and then skip
> directly to the rescue shell?
>
>   I actually downloaded a dedicated rescue disk and
> successfully used it for a few years but it doesn't understand
> the ext4 file system used in stretch.  The netinstall image puts
> that FS on the boot drive so it should be able to mount /dev/sda1
> if one so desires.
>
>   When booting the netinstall image, one is prompted to
> choose locale-specific settings for language and keyboard and
> then one appears to have no alternative but to format the boot
> drive and install the OS.
>
>   I might want to use dd to copy a boot image of another
> linux system from a usb drive to /dev/sda or I might just want to
> run fsck -f -y /dev/sda1 if that seems to be necessary.  It is
> always good if you can do things to the boot drive while it is
> unmounted with no active file system.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Martin McCormick
>
>

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Re: Using a Debian Stretch netinstaller image as a Rescue Disk

2018-08-16 Thread arne
On Thu, 16 Aug 2018 23:55:43 +0200
arne  wrote:

> On Thu, 16 Aug 2018 21:56:47 +0200
> john doe  wrote:
> 
> > On 8/16/2018 9:39 PM, Thomas Schmitt wrote:  
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > Martin McCormick wrote:
> > >> Ah, this sounds good.  Thank you.
> > > 
> > > I assume that the system is very limited.
> > > 
> > > If you need more, consider the Debian Live ISOs at
> > >https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/
> > >https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/i386/iso-hybrid/
> > > 
> > 
> > Or GRML:
> > 
> > https://grml.org/
> >   
> 
> grml has the advantage that it can be booted with grub on a debian
> system from an iso file.
> 
> apt-get install grml-rescueboot
> 
> For me no system without it.
> 

Although I can not remember I actually needed it (Debian rocks),
but I like to live on the safe side.

grml iso from local disc boots faster than debian from
netinstall image, and it gives you a load of tools more too.
It is nicely added to your grub menu.
 
Regards



Re: Using a Debian Stretch netinstaller image as a Rescue Disk

2018-08-16 Thread arne
On Thu, 16 Aug 2018 21:56:47 +0200
john doe  wrote:

> On 8/16/2018 9:39 PM, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Martin McCormick wrote:  
> >> Ah, this sounds good.  Thank you.  
> > 
> > I assume that the system is very limited.
> > 
> > If you need more, consider the Debian Live ISOs at
> >https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/
> >https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/i386/iso-hybrid/
> >   
> 
> Or GRML:
> 
> https://grml.org/
> 

grml has the advantage that it can be booted with grub on a debian
system from an iso file.

apt-get install grml-rescueboot

For me no system without it.

Have a nice day



Re: Using a Debian Stretch netinstaller image as a Rescue Disk

2018-08-16 Thread john doe

On 8/16/2018 9:39 PM, Thomas Schmitt wrote:

Hi,

Martin McCormick wrote:

Ah, this sounds good.  Thank you.


I assume that the system is very limited.

If you need more, consider the Debian Live ISOs at
   https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/
   https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/i386/iso-hybrid/



Or GRML:

https://grml.org/

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Re: Using a Debian Stretch netinstaller image as a Rescue Disk

2018-08-16 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi,

Martin McCormick wrote:
> Ah, this sounds good.  Thank you.

I assume that the system is very limited.

If you need more, consider the Debian Live ISOs at
  https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/
  https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/i386/iso-hybrid/


Have a nice day :)

Thomas



Re: Using a Debian Stretch netinstaller image as a Rescue Disk

2018-08-16 Thread Martin McCormick
"Thomas Schmitt"  writes:
> Hi,
> 

> 
> Trying it with
>   qemu-system-x86_64 -enable-kvm -m 512 -cdrom 
> debian-9.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso
> 
> I select menu item "Advanced options"
> and then menu item "Rescue mode".
> Now i get to choose by menus: Language, Country, Keymap.
> (Some internal retrieving installing and configuring happens.)
> I get asked for: Hostname, Domain name.
> I shall select time zone.
> (Now it is unhappily gnawing on the sparse virtual hardware ...)
> I shall select a driver because no disk was found. I select: "continue
> with no disk drive".
> It complains about no partitions. I use the "" button.
> 
> A menu "Rescue operations" appears, offering two items:
> Execute a shell in the installer environment.
> Reboot the system.
> I chose the first one and get a confirmation button about "Executing a
> shell". I use "".
> 
> A prompt "~#" appears. Input line "ls -l" produces what can be expected.
> "shutdown -h now" does not poweroff, though, but only brings me back to
> the first Debian installer menu.
> 
> 
> Have a nice day :)
> 
> Thomas

Ah, this sounds good.  Thank you.

Martin



Re: Using a Debian Stretch netinstaller image as a Rescue Disk

2018-08-16 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi,

Martin McCormick wrote:
> Maybe I am missing something obvious but is there a way
> to boot the CD, select language and keyboard and then skip
> directly to the rescue shell?

Trying it with
  qemu-system-x86_64 -enable-kvm -m 512 -cdrom debian-9.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso

I select menu item "Advanced options"
and then menu item "Rescue mode".
Now i get to choose by menus: Language, Country, Keymap.
(Some internal retrieving installing and configuring happens.)
I get asked for: Hostname, Domain name.
I shall select time zone.
(Now it is unhappily gnawing on the sparse virtual hardware ...)
I shall select a driver because no disk was found. I select: "continue
with no disk drive".
It complains about no partitions. I use the "" button.

A menu "Rescue operations" appears, offering two items:
Execute a shell in the installer environment.
Reboot the system.
I chose the first one and get a confirmation button about "Executing a
shell". I use "".

A prompt "~#" appears. Input line "ls -l" produces what can be expected.
"shutdown -h now" does not poweroff, though, but only brings me back to
the first Debian installer menu.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas



Using a Debian Stretch netinstaller image as a Rescue Disk

2018-08-16 Thread Martin McCormick
I am familiar with using the debian netinstaller images
for stretch and earlier versions and they boot up with
installation of debian as their primary purpose but after the
installation is complete, there is a rescue screen in which one
can run a shell and a few utilities to mount the boot drive and
maybe do fsck and so forth.

Maybe I am missing something obvious but is there a way
to boot the CD, select language and keyboard and then skip
directly to the rescue shell?

I actually downloaded a dedicated rescue disk and
successfully used it for a few years but it doesn't understand
the ext4 file system used in stretch.  The netinstall image puts
that FS on the boot drive so it should be able to mount /dev/sda1
if one so desires.

When booting the netinstall image, one is prompted to
choose locale-specific settings for language and keyboard and
then one appears to have no alternative but to format the boot
drive and install the OS.  

I might want to use dd to copy a boot image of another
linux system from a usb drive to /dev/sda or I might just want to
run fsck -f -y /dev/sda1 if that seems to be necessary.  It is
always good if you can do things to the boot drive while it is
unmounted with no active file system.

Thank you.

Martin McCormick



Re: What the proper way to create debian rescue disk (debian installed into qemu iso and dd'ed into some hard drive)

2008-07-16 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
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On 2008-07-16 16:54, Jabka Atu wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 4:04 PM, Jabka Atu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> I did not understand what you are trying to do. Are you installing
>>> Debian on qemu, and then intend to clone this qemu image to a real hard
>>> disk? That might work (Debian is not Windows), but is not ideal as the
>>> virtualized hardware of qemu is not the same as of the actual system.
>>>
>>> I'd recommend clonezilla for making images of disks and restoring them
>>> later. It has worked well for me.
>>>
>>
> 
> 
>> Yep , the idea is to copy the image into to hard drive.
>>
> What i meen is what do i need to do with the image to make suitable for
> harddisk copying (do i need to change it to raw format or anything ?

I also don't really understand what you intend to do. If you'd just like
to backup some (or all) files from your partition you can just copy them
to wherever you like. It doesn't matter if these are 'data files,
'system files' or qemu images.

(There are some funny OSs that distinguish between these types in order
to make it more difficult to clone an installation, but that's not the
case for linux)

You might consider keeping the file properties and/or to compress files,
in case you'd like to save disk space.

dd is capable of copying your disk / partition bit for bit. Read 'man
dd'. However, with current disk sizes this approach will probably be
highly inefficient as all the empty space is copied as well. For most
backup scenarios rsync or other backup tools are miles better. They are
also much more flexible (in case your replacement disk has different
specifications from the then dead one).

HTH, take care, YMMV,

Johannes


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Re: What the proper way to create debian rescue disk (debian installed into qemu iso and dd'ed into some hard drive)

2008-07-16 Thread Jabka Atu
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 4:04 PM, Jabka Atu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> I did not understand what you are trying to do. Are you installing
>> Debian on qemu, and then intend to clone this qemu image to a real hard
>> disk? That might work (Debian is not Windows), but is not ideal as the
>> virtualized hardware of qemu is not the same as of the actual system.
>>
>> I'd recommend clonezilla for making images of disks and restoring them
>> later. It has worked well for me.
>>
>
>


> Yep , the idea is to copy the image into to hard drive.
>
What i meen is what do i need to do with the image to make suitable for
harddisk copying (do i need to change it to raw format or anything ?


Re: What the proper way to create debian rescue disk (debian installed into qemu iso and dd'ed into some hard drive)

2008-07-16 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
Jabka Atu wrote:
> Howdy ,
>
> I wish to create a Debian an image that can be dd'ed into a hard drive.
> So for instance if i have a mulfunctioning hard drive i could put
> other disk and just use dd to put it on.
> I'm installing now (debian sid ) it now into a qemu image  build using
> qemu-img -f qcow filename size.
> and setting all what i need.
>
> What are the other steps that i need to do to be able achieving my task ?

I did not understand what you are trying to do. Are you installing
Debian on qemu, and then intend to clone this qemu image to a real hard
disk? That might work (Debian is not Windows), but is not ideal as the
virtualized hardware of qemu is not the same as of the actual system.

I'd recommend clonezilla for making images of disks and restoring them
later. It has worked well for me.


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What the proper way to create debian rescue disk (debian installed into qemu iso and dd'ed into some hard drive)

2008-07-16 Thread Jabka Atu
Howdy ,

I wish to create a Debian an image that can be dd'ed into a hard drive.
So for instance if i have a mulfunctioning hard drive i could put other disk
and just use dd to put it on.
I'm installing now (debian sid ) it now into a qemu image  build using
qemu-img -f qcow filename size.
and setting all what i need.

What are the other steps that i need to do to be able achieving my task ?


Re: trying to rescue disk

2006-08-22 Thread Steve Lamb
Alle Meije Wink wrote:
> Does anyone know of a Live CD that permits you to do things in a
> terminal and interact with your old linux system?

My rescue distro of choice is LNX-BBC:
http://www.lnx-bbc.org/

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trying to rescue disk

2006-08-22 Thread Alle Meije Wink

Hi,

I wrote some time ago about a my linux disk that had crashed. The 
contents could be saved and were put on another disk (same size 
different brand). The new disk was not accessable from Windows anymore 
(explore2fs), as the old one was. I also could not boot from it anymore, 
tried that and the screen was filled with an endless string of "GRUB 
GRUB GRUB..." which *was* my boot manager.


I tried the Live CD rescue option:


From:  "Mumia W." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 11:04:52 -0500
To: Debian User 

On 08/13/2006 08:32 AM, Alle Meije Wink wrote:
[...] It gives messages like ``Error: Access violation at address 
00097BD1 in module `explore2fs.exe'. Read of address 00921268''.


My guess is that the addressing on the Seagate is somehow different 
than on the Maxtor, which makes it less straightforward to transfer a 
whole disc image between the two. Is there a way to access the 
contents of the old disc on the new disc (e.g. by running a liveCD and 
then mounting the disc and re-installing Grub)?


Does anyone who's been in a similar situation know how to deal with this?

See if you can use a Knoppix disk or another Linux live CD to look at 
that partition.


The Live CD was Ubuntu in this case (as Knoppix, it's Debian-based). In 
the Live CD session, though, you're logged in as non-root, and the root 
pwd is not given. Does that mean exit Live CD?


I also tried Ubuntu alternate install, which contains text-based 
installation and rescue disk. These options all seem to want to interact 
with/write to the disk before you can log in, which is not something 
that makes me feel safe (without knowing what is actually written).


Does anyone know of a Live CD that permits you to do things in a 
terminal and interact with your old linux system?


Many thanks
Alle Meije


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Re: need a "Swiss Army Knife" rescue disk

2005-12-15 Thread Pablo Vanwoerkom

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote:


A bit late, but this has to be mentioned:


Am Sonntag, den 20.11.2005, 20:03 -0500 schrieb mikepolniak:


Now with these two CD's i have everything i need.




I use "R.I.P." - "Recovery is possible". 



http://www.tux.org/pub/people/kent-robotti/looplinux/rip/


OK




This thing is great. It


contains stuff like "reiser4" since a long time, comes in different
flavors (Linux, BSD, Netboot, CD), and, very important for me:
It asks which keyboard to use at startup, giving me the opportunity to
choose "german", where nearly every key is in a different place compared
to the typical default(=us) and even the often used y (="yes") nneds
that I press "z" here to get "y". RIP always asks for "1/n" and not for
"y/n".

Console only, grub, LVM on demand, very small download, never missed
anything. Hm, OK, I sometimes missed manpages. It does not contain them,
so I use the ones from the system I am repairing.

Bye, Ratti








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Re: need a "Swiss Army Knife" rescue disk

2005-12-06 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote:

A bit late, but this has to be mentioned:


Am Sonntag, den 20.11.2005, 20:03 -0500 schrieb mikepolniak:


Now with these two CD's i have everything i need.



I use "R.I.P." - "Recovery is possible". 


http://www.tux.org/pub/people/kent-robotti/looplinux/rip/


This thing is great. It

contains stuff like "reiser4" since a long time, comes in different
flavors (Linux, BSD, Netboot, CD), and, very important for me: 


It asks which keyboard to use at startup, giving me the opportunity to
choose "german", where nearly every key is in a different place compared
to the typical default(=us) and even the often used y (="yes") nneds
that I press "z" here to get "y". RIP always asks for "1/n" and not for
"y/n".

Console only, grub, LVM on demand, very small download, never missed
anything. Hm, OK, I sometimes missed manpages. It does not contain them,
so I use the ones from the system I am repairing.

Bye, Ratti





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Re: need a "Swiss Army Knife" rescue disk

2005-12-06 Thread Joerg Rossdeutscher
A bit late, but this has to be mentioned:


Am Sonntag, den 20.11.2005, 20:03 -0500 schrieb mikepolniak:
> Now with these two CD's i have everything i need.

I use "R.I.P." - "Recovery is possible". This thing is great. It
contains stuff like "reiser4" since a long time, comes in different
flavors (Linux, BSD, Netboot, CD), and, very important for me: 

It asks which keyboard to use at startup, giving me the opportunity to
choose "german", where nearly every key is in a different place compared
to the typical default(=us) and even the often used y (="yes") nneds
that I press "z" here to get "y". RIP always asks for "1/n" and not for
"y/n".

Console only, grub, LVM on demand, very small download, never missed
anything. Hm, OK, I sometimes missed manpages. It does not contain them,
so I use the ones from the system I am repairing.

Bye, Ratti


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Re: need a "Swiss Army Knife" rescue disk

2005-11-20 Thread mikepolniak
On 21:58 Sun 20 Nov , Joachim Fahnenmüller wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 19, 2005 at 03:21:41PM -0500, mikepolniak wrote:
> > I have used the Debian install cd as a rescue disk and in the past also
> > the 'BBC-business-card', 'System-Rescue-cd' and Knoppix.
> > 
> > Knoppix is OK for Debian rescue but a big d/l and the others seem a
> > little outdated. I need one that includes iproute, rsync, LVM and grub. 
> > 
> > Has anyone come across an up-to-date cd rescue disk that is small in size
> > and has all the essential admin and Debian tools in their latest versions?
> 
> Try
> http://www.inside-security.de/insert_en.html
> 
> HTH

Yes..that looks very nice. I have been trying it out loaded into ram and
it seems to have all the tools i need plus my favorite file manager- emelfm. 

The gui with firefox works fine also. I also found another rescue cd
called finnix http://www.finnix.org/

It is console based only and based on Debian with the latest Debian tools
and kernel-2.6.14.

Now with these two CD's i have everything i need.
 


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Re: need a "Swiss Army Knife" rescue disk

2005-11-20 Thread Joachim Fahnenmüller
On Sat, Nov 19, 2005 at 03:21:41PM -0500, mikepolniak wrote:
> I have used the Debian install cd as a rescue disk and in the past also
> the 'BBC-business-card', 'System-Rescue-cd' and Knoppix.
> 
> Knoppix is OK for Debian rescue but a big d/l and the others seem a
> little outdated. I need one that includes iproute, rsync, LVM and grub. 
> 
> Has anyone come across an up-to-date cd rescue disk that is small in size
> and has all the essential admin and Debian tools in their latest versions?

Try
http://www.inside-security.de/insert_en.html

HTH
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Re: need a "Swiss Army Knife" rescue disk

2005-11-20 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 19 Nov 2005, mikepolniak wrote:
> I have used the Debian install cd as a rescue disk and in the past also
> the 'BBC-business-card', 'System-Rescue-cd' and Knoppix.
> 
> Knoppix is OK for Debian rescue but a big d/l and the others seem a
> little outdated. I need one that includes iproute, rsync, LVM and grub. 
> 
> Has anyone come across an up-to-date cd rescue disk that is small in size
> and has all the essential admin and Debian tools in their latest versions?
> 

Worth noting that the most recent versions of both Knoppix and Ubuntu,
being Debian-based, contain the Unstable version of hotplug that causes
my wireless card (and probably others) to stop working.

Anthony


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need a "Swiss Army Knife" rescue disk

2005-11-19 Thread mikepolniak
I have used the Debian install cd as a rescue disk and in the past also
the 'BBC-business-card', 'System-Rescue-cd' and Knoppix.

Knoppix is OK for Debian rescue but a big d/l and the others seem a
little outdated. I need one that includes iproute, rsync, LVM and grub. 

Has anyone come across an up-to-date cd rescue disk that is small in size
and has all the essential admin and Debian tools in their latest versions?

  


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Re: How to make a rescue disk ?

2005-10-25 Thread Bill Thompson
On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 06:14:01 +
Bruno Costacurta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > > I'm looking for procedure / howto about creating rescue CD disk.

> Thanks Alvin for all these details.
> I decided to 'keep it simple' and will try a Knoppix.
> Bye,
> Bruno

If I may be so bold you may want to try a bootable disk specially
designed for recovery, even if it is not Debian based.

My all time favorite is LNX-BBC (http://www.lnx-bbc.org/) because it
fits on a small CD that is easy to carry around.

However, recently I have been using the System Rescue CD
(http://www.sysresccd.org/). It has many more tools than Knoppix
or LNX-BBC, including backup utilities and a bootable FreeDOS option. It
is a very handy tool for recovering all types of x86 operating systems.

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Re: How to make a rescue disk ?

2005-10-24 Thread Alvin Oga

hi ya bruno

On Tue, 25 Oct 2005, Bruno Costacurta wrote:

> On Sunday 23 October 2005 09:13, Alvin Oga wrote:

> Thanks Alvin for all these details.
> I decided to 'keep it simple' and will try a Knoppix.

simple is most always the best way to go

c ya
alvin


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Re: How to make a rescue disk ?

2005-10-24 Thread Bruno Costacurta
On Sunday 23 October 2005 09:13, Alvin Oga wrote:
> hi ya bruno
>
> On Sun, 23 Oct 2005, Bruno Costacurta wrote:
> > I'm looking for procedure / howto about creating rescue CD disk.
>
> proceedure .. "think" :-) ..
>   - find out what hardware chipset is in your pc
>   - find out what kernel you're using
>   - save the kernel and /lib/modules/
>   - save your partition info
>   - save your list of apps installed
>   - save your list of config files installed
>   - add dressing so that you can do something
>   ( bash, libc, networking, fs-check apps, ... )
>
>   - how much time will have you "rescue" the dead box ?
>
> 5min .. 5hrs .. 5 days .. would dictate how you implement
> your rescue cd
>
>   - depending on what you want to rescue .. existing
>   "rescue" cd's will not have your config files and setup
>
>   - or do you want rescue to save a corrupt fs vs
>   a backup of your /home and config changes which
>   is not the same as rescue
>
>   - booting the pc is not the same as rescue either
>
> how complicated do you want to get ...
>   - why start with the hardest way to rescue a system ?
>
> 0)  dd if=/boot/vmlinuz of=/dev/fd0
>   - as long as your kernel is 1.2MB and you have the network
>   modules you can always boot can get online
>
> 1)  do a fancier boot floppy with ( lilo or grub or syslinux ) menu
>   - lots of howto's
>
> 2)  stick a 2nd disk into the same system ... and mirror your boot info
> and may as well copy your /home/bruno directories too
>
> 3)  use raid ... in case hda dies ... your properly configured raid
> will boot off hdc instead
>
> 4)  make a bootable usb-stick ( more space than a floppy )
>   this is the simplest "1 minute change" but assumes your
>   system supports usb-hdd-boot and your system has the usb
>   driver modules
>
>   lilo -C /etc/lilo.hda.conf
>   --> change to boot=/dev/hda to boot=/dev/sda
>
>   more tweeking (2 min) of menu.lst for "grub-install /dev/sda"
>
> 4)  setup (pxe) network boot ... so that you always boot off the network
> as long as the pxe server is running
>
> 5)  use an existing "standalone" cdrom
>   - you're assuming the kernel on the cdrom supports your hw
>   or else it's worthless for rescuing your hardware
>
> 6) make your own standalone cdrom
>   - little more work ... but more fun
>
>   - rescue cd  needs initrd.gz  and rootfs 
>   and you'd need to make an iso of the whole thing
>
>   hacking a existing knoppix is easy but is too big
>   of a rescue disk
>
> 7) test and retest from different failures
>
> 8) endless list with more variances and differences of how to boot it
>
> c ya
> alvin

Thanks Alvin for all these details.
I decided to 'keep it simple' and will try a Knoppix.
Bye,
Bruno


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Re: How to make a rescue disk ?

2005-10-24 Thread Alan Ianson
On Mon October 24 2005 03:49 pm, Bruno Costacurta wrote:
> On Sunday 23 October 2005 10:51, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> > On Sun, Oct 23, 2005 at 10:07:31AM +, Bruno Costacurta wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > I'm looking for procedure / howto about creating rescue CD disk.
> > > Thanks.
> > > Bruno
> >
> > Download either the full CD1 or the net install CD from the Debian
> > installer page.  Alternatively, keep a Knoppix or other live CD around,
> > since if you boot one of those it will give you a fully functional
> > system to use with many tools to repair whatever damage has befallen
> > your system.
> >
> > -Roberto
>
> I downloaded the net install CD  from Debian but my feeling is that it
> don't contain 'rescue' but only 'installer'. Is it possible ?

It is, I don't know why but there is no rescue mode on the debian install cd 
anymore.


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Re: How to make a rescue disk ?

2005-10-24 Thread Angelina Carlton
Bruno Costacurta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


> I downloaded the net install CD  from Debian but my feeling is that it don't 
> contain 'rescue' but only 'installer'. Is it possible ?
>

The net installer doesn't have a rescue image, but there is a way.
http://wiki.debian.org/?DebianInstallerFAQ (look down the page some)

I rescued a broken grub on my desktop with this method, just be careful
about the naming of your partitions as they will be in /dev/discs 
I just mounted my partitions one by one and looked inside to find which
was /boot 


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Re: How to make a rescue disk ?

2005-10-24 Thread Bruno Costacurta
On Sunday 23 October 2005 10:51, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 23, 2005 at 10:07:31AM +, Bruno Costacurta wrote:
> > Hello,
> > I'm looking for procedure / howto about creating rescue CD disk.
> > Thanks.
> > Bruno
>
> Download either the full CD1 or the net install CD from the Debian
> installer page.  Alternatively, keep a Knoppix or other live CD around,
> since if you boot one of those it will give you a fully functional
> system to use with many tools to repair whatever damage has befallen
> your system.
>
> -Roberto

I downloaded the net install CD  from Debian but my feeling is that it don't 
contain 'rescue' but only 'installer'. Is it possible ?

Bye,
Bruno


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Re: How to make a rescue disk ?

2005-10-23 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, Oct 23, 2005 at 06:51:45AM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 23, 2005 at 10:07:31AM +, Bruno Costacurta wrote:
> > Hello,
> > I'm looking for procedure / howto about creating rescue CD disk.
> > Thanks.
> > Bruno
> > 
> 
> Download either the full CD1 or the net install CD from the Debian
> installer page.

When I tried this to rescue a system recently, and booted from
Sarge CD1, it tried to install me a system.  What would I have had to
do to get it to rescue one instead?

  Alternatively, keep a Knoppix or other live CD around,
> since if you boot one of those it will give you a fully functional
> system to use with many tools to repair whatever damage has befallen
> your system.

I succeeded with knoppix though.

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Re: How to make a rescue disk ?

2005-10-23 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Bruno Costacurta wrote:

Hello,
I'm looking for procedure / howto about creating rescue CD disk.
Thanks.
Bruno




With lilo comes mkrescue.

mkrescue --iso

puts rescue.iso in the dir.

Then you burn that with cdrecord and you boot from that.

mkrescue is a script.
I change it a little, to show the label of the image on the menu, 
instead of just "linux" so that I know from what partition I cut the 
rescue CD.


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Re: How to make a rescue disk ?

2005-10-23 Thread Alvin Oga


hi ya bruno

On Sun, 23 Oct 2005, Bruno Costacurta wrote:

> I'm looking for procedure / howto about creating rescue CD disk.

proceedure .. "think" :-) ..
- find out what hardware chipset is in your pc
- find out what kernel you're using
- save the kernel and /lib/modules/
- save your partition info
- save your list of apps installed
- save your list of config files installed
- add dressing so that you can do something
( bash, libc, networking, fs-check apps, ... )

- how much time will have you "rescue" the dead box ?

  5min .. 5hrs .. 5 days .. would dictate how you implement
  your rescue cd

- depending on what you want to rescue .. existing
"rescue" cd's will not have your config files and setup

- or do you want rescue to save a corrupt fs vs
a backup of your /home and config changes which
is not the same as rescue

- booting the pc is not the same as rescue either

how complicated do you want to get ...
- why start with the hardest way to rescue a system ?

0)  dd if=/boot/vmlinuz of=/dev/fd0
- as long as your kernel is 1.2MB and you have the network
modules you can always boot can get online 

1)  do a fancier boot floppy with ( lilo or grub or syslinux ) menu 
- lots of howto's

2)  stick a 2nd disk into the same system ... and mirror your boot info
and may as well copy your /home/bruno directories too

3)  use raid ... in case hda dies ... your properly configured raid
will boot off hdc instead

4)  make a bootable usb-stick ( more space than a floppy )
this is the simplest "1 minute change" but assumes your
system supports usb-hdd-boot and your system has the usb 
driver modules

lilo -C /etc/lilo.hda.conf  
--> change to boot=/dev/hda to boot=/dev/sda

more tweeking (2 min) of menu.lst for "grub-install /dev/sda"

4)  setup (pxe) network boot ... so that you always boot off the network
as long as the pxe server is running 

5)  use an existing "standalone" cdrom
- you're assuming the kernel on the cdrom supports your hw
or else it's worthless for rescuing your hardware

6) make your own standalone cdrom
- little more work ... but more fun

- rescue cd  needs initrd.gz  and rootfs 
and you'd need to make an iso of the whole thing

hacking a existing knoppix is easy but is too big
of a rescue disk

7) test and retest from different failures

8) endless list with more variances and differences of how to boot it

c ya
alvin


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Re: How to make a rescue disk ?

2005-10-23 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Oct 23, 2005 at 10:07:31AM +, Bruno Costacurta wrote:
> Hello,
> I'm looking for procedure / howto about creating rescue CD disk.
> Thanks.
> Bruno
> 

Download either the full CD1 or the net install CD from the Debian
installer page.  Alternatively, keep a Knoppix or other live CD around,
since if you boot one of those it will give you a fully functional
system to use with many tools to repair whatever damage has befallen
your system.

-Roberto

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How to make a rescue disk ?

2005-10-23 Thread Bruno Costacurta
Hello,
I'm looking for procedure / howto about creating rescue CD disk.
Thanks.
Bruno


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Re: Rescue disk?

2005-06-22 Thread Sylvain Briole
Hi Kent,

>>The problem : the new hard disk is too big to be correctly recognized by the
>>BIOS, so I disabled it in the BIOS configuration. I have burned Sarge 3.1
>>netinst CD, and ran the install without any problem, with Grub on /dev/hda
>>(the new hard disk). This computer has no floppy drive : only CD-ROM drive.
>>I booted the computer on the CD-ROM drive, using the well known (for me, under
>>Woody) commando by lilo prompt : rescue root=/dev/hda1
>>But this time, it does not function.
>>Is there any rescue possibility in Sarge?
>>I have read there about Tomsrbt or Damn Small Linux to repair problem with
>>MBR/Grub : but I am not looking for such a solution, but only a convenient
>>method to boot on a CD and then use /dev/hda1 as root.
> I'm confused by your description.

Sorry : my english knowledge is a little bit old : it is difficult for me to be
completely clear!

> First you say the problem is that your hard drive is not recognized by
> the BIOS.

Exactly.

> Then you imply that's not a problem, because the install proceeded
> without a problem.

Exactly : I boot from the Netinst Sarge CD, then install Sarge without any
problem till the first reboot (after Grub install on MBR).

> Then you indicate you're trying to boot via CD. Why? Is it because the
> machine can't find the hard drive and boot from it? What CD are you
> booting from? The Sarge installer?

The machine can not find the hard drive : I must boot from the CD (this is the
only other peripheral that I may use).
The CD I am booting from : the Netinst Sarge CD.

> What is not working about "rescue root=/dev/hda1"? What errors/symptoms
> are you getting? Does this CD use lilo, or Grub?

AFAIK, it uses Isolinux:
- when I try : rescue root=/dev/hda1
  I become : "Could not find kernel image: rescue"
- then, I have tried :
  linux root=/dev/hda1
  and also :
  linux root=0301 (that should be /dev/hda1)
  and the boot process functions till the error message :

  VFS : Cannot open root device "0301" or unknown block(3,1)
  Please append a correct "root=" boot option
  Kernel panic : VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown block(3,1)
  
Thanks,

Sylvain.


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Re: Rescue disk?

2005-06-21 Thread Kent West
Sylvain Briole wrote:

>Hi!
>
>I am facing a "little" problem with my Sarge install.
>I was an happy Woody user for a long time, and I need to do a fresh install of
>Sarge on a computer with BIOS problem. This computer ran Woody without any
>problem, but I have received a new hard disk for this one, on which I would 
>like
>to install Sarge.
>The problem : the new hard disk is too big to be correctly recognized by the
>BIOS, so I disabled it in the BIOS configuration. I have burned Sarge 3.1
>netinst CD, and ran the install without any problem, with Grub on /dev/hda (the
>new hard disk). This computer has no floppy drive : only CD-ROM drive.
>I booted the computer on the CD-ROM drive, using the well known (for me, under
>Woody) commando by lilo prompt : rescue root=/dev/hda1
>But this time, it does not function.
>
>Is there any rescue possibility in Sarge?
>I have read there about Tomsrbt or Damn Small Linux to repair problem with
>MBR/Grub : but I am not looking for such a solution, but only a convenient
>method to boot on a CD and then use /dev/hda1 as root.
>
>I thank you in advance for any tip,
>
>Sylvain.
>
>
>  
>
I'm confused by your description.

First you say the problem is that your hard drive is not recognized by
the BIOS.

Then you imply that's not a problem, because the install proceeded
without a problem.

Then you indicate you're trying to boot via CD. Why? Is it because the
machine can't find the hard drive and boot from it? What CD are you
booting from? The Sarge installer?

What is not working about "rescue root=/dev/hda1"? What errors/symptoms
are you getting? Does this CD use lilo, or Grub?

As I ask these questions, I think I've begun to fathom what you're
saying, but I'm not sure, so I'm asking for clarification.

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Rescue disk?

2005-06-21 Thread Sylvain Briole
Hi!

I am facing a "little" problem with my Sarge install.
I was an happy Woody user for a long time, and I need to do a fresh install of
Sarge on a computer with BIOS problem. This computer ran Woody without any
problem, but I have received a new hard disk for this one, on which I would like
to install Sarge.
The problem : the new hard disk is too big to be correctly recognized by the
BIOS, so I disabled it in the BIOS configuration. I have burned Sarge 3.1
netinst CD, and ran the install without any problem, with Grub on /dev/hda (the
new hard disk). This computer has no floppy drive : only CD-ROM drive.
I booted the computer on the CD-ROM drive, using the well known (for me, under
Woody) commando by lilo prompt : rescue root=/dev/hda1
But this time, it does not function.

Is there any rescue possibility in Sarge?
I have read there about Tomsrbt or Damn Small Linux to repair problem with
MBR/Grub : but I am not looking for such a solution, but only a convenient
method to boot on a CD and then use /dev/hda1 as root.

I thank you in advance for any tip,

Sylvain.


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Re: Fixing Mistake in grub config.lst; Need Rescue Disk

2005-06-18 Thread Mr Mike
On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 14:47:51 -0500
Martin McCormick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   I successfully installed Debian from a CDROM burned from the image
> 
> debian-31r0a-i386-binary-1.iso
> 
>   I then tried to install a 2.6.5 kernel on that system and must
> have incorrectly modified /boot/grub/menu.lst because the system
> doesn't boot.  I did think to make a backup of the original menu.lst
> file but then I discovered that if I boot from the Debian installation
> CDROM, I can't seem to use the shell one can spawn to mount any file
> systems.  Is it possible to use that disk as a repair disk?  If so,
> what am I missing?  The drive is already formatted and only needs to
> be mounted so I can do the 5-second mv operation that I now have spent
> about 6 hours trying to accomplish.
> 
>   If that disk isn't a good repair disk, is there an image I can
> download which understands the ext3 file system?
> 
>   One other thing that may complicate this request is that I
> need to do this via the serial console.  The installation CD I burned
> from the image indicated above lets one do this all right so what I
> need is something like that that will let me directly mount the root
> file system.  Thanks for any help.
> 


Look for this on lwn.net.. (pretty sure this is where I got my copy)
tomsrtbt-2.0.103.tar.gz
It's a floppy disk linux ...  boot from it, mount your /boot partition and 
restore your menu.lst..
I've had to do the same thing when it got trashed trying to get it to do a 
splashimage... :-(

Anyway..  it works great as a safe way to boot and do repairs without having to 
boot a full Live CD like Knoppix or something..  I keep the floppy in my top 
left desk drawer cause I'm always muckin with things and heaven knows I've 
screwed up on more than one occasion.. 


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Re: Fixing Mistake in grub config.lst; Need Rescue Disk

2005-06-18 Thread Jochen Schulz
Martin McCormick:
> 
>   I then tried to install a 2.6.5 kernel on that system and must
> have incorrectly modified /boot/grub/menu.lst because the system
> doesn't boot.

If you know the correct parameters (or know how to guess it), you can
edit the boot entries by pressing 'e' in the grub menu. I understand you
have no access to this menu, since you only have a serial console,
though.

In the future you can add some lines like this to your menu.lst, which
makes the grub menu available via serial line:

serial --unit=0 --speed=115200
terminal serial
terminal console

See the grub documentation for an explanation and how you might have to
adjust this to your environment.

>  I did think to make a backup of the original menu.lst
> file but then I discovered that if I boot from the Debian installation
> CDROM, I can't seem to use the shell one can spawn to mount any file
> systems.  Is it possible to use that disk as a repair disk?  If so,
> what am I missing?  The drive is already formatted and only needs to
> be mounted so I can do the 5-second mv operation that I now have spent
> about 6 hours trying to accomplish.

I am not sure how to do that over serial line, but when you boot the
disc normally, you can always change to another VT by pressing Alt-Fn
just like in any other Linux system. Maybe you are lucky with expert
mode?

>   If that disk isn't a good repair disk, is there an image I can
> download which understands the ext3 file system?

I do not know if any of the usual live CD-ROMs enable access via serial
console by default, but you may try Knoppix or "damn small linux".

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Fixing Mistake in grub config.lst; Need Rescue Disk

2005-06-18 Thread Martin McCormick
I successfully installed Debian from a CDROM burned from the image

debian-31r0a-i386-binary-1.iso

I then tried to install a 2.6.5 kernel on that system and must
have incorrectly modified /boot/grub/menu.lst because the system
doesn't boot.  I did think to make a backup of the original menu.lst
file but then I discovered that if I boot from the Debian installation
CDROM, I can't seem to use the shell one can spawn to mount any file
systems.  Is it possible to use that disk as a repair disk?  If so,
what am I missing?  The drive is already formatted and only needs to
be mounted so I can do the 5-second mv operation that I now have spent
about 6 hours trying to accomplish.

If that disk isn't a good repair disk, is there an image I can
download which understands the ext3 file system?

One other thing that may complicate this request is that I
need to do this via the serial console.  The installation CD I burned
from the image indicated above lets one do this all right so what I
need is something like that that will let me directly mount the root
file system.  Thanks for any help.

Martin McCormick WB5AGZ  Stillwater, OK 
OSU Information Technology Division Network Operations Group


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Re: rescue disk

2004-12-01 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Tony Godshall wrote:
According to Hugo Vanwoerkom,
George Iordanou wrote:
I want to create a rescue disk. I went to debian's official webpage
and i downloaded the unstable version which consists of the following
files:
boot.img
cd-drivers.img
net-drivers.img
root.img
How can i create a bootable rescue disk? I want to get into my system
using the floppy's kernel.
Is a bootable rescue CD OK? mkrescue is part of Lilo and creates either 
floppies or CD with "mkrescue --iso", which iso your burn with cdrecord.

I modified mkrescue --iso, which is a script, to come up with a menu 
that actually says which partition is going to boot, rather than "Linux".

Booting that CD gives you the option of using the partition you ran 
mkrescue from or what is on the MBR ("harddisk").

Sounds handy.
Can you post a patch?

=
--- mkrescue.orig   2004-09-13 14:14:15.0 -0500
+++ mkrescue2004-12-01 09:14:32.0 -0600
@@ -427,6 +427,10 @@
 echo " " >>$mountconfig
 echo "image=linux" >>$mountconfig
+if [ $isoimage = yes ]; then
+   echo "label=$image" >>$mountconfig
+fi
+
 if [ ! -z $initrd ]; then
echo "  initrd=initrd" >>$mountconfig
 fi
==
This refers to the current Sarge version of lilo (which contains mkrescue)
I want to make another change: to add all the images of the current 
partition. E.g. I have two images of the current partition that differ 
only in a string on the append: "network". Then in the boot I look for 
that string and if it exists I bring up PPP at boot. If not I don't. 
Many times I need a rescue boot (after failures of the d-i) but I don't 
want the internet. So both of those images should be on the rescue CD.

I'll advise when I got something.
HTH
H

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Re: rescue disk

2004-11-30 Thread Jason Rennie
On Tue, Nov 30, 2004 at 07:56:43PM +0200, George Iordanou wrote:
> Unfortunately i haven't exactly understood the procedure. Do i need
> knoppix? I have the installation cd of sarge.

Knoppix is a "live" Debian distribution on a CD.  I.e. you don't have
to install it, just put in the Knoppix CD, boot the computer and up
comes Knoppix.  Since everything is on the CD, it does not rely on
your hard drive being in working order.  If something is broken on
your HD, you can use Knoppix to fix it.  I.e. Knoppix is the ultimate
Linux rescue disk.

All you have to do is to burn the Knoppix distribution onto a CD.
Here's the image I used:

  http://csociety-ftp.ecn.purdue.edu/pub/knoppix/KNOPPIX_V3.6-2004-08-16-EN.iso

The full list of mirrors is here:

  http://www.knopper.net/knoppix-mirrors/index-en.html

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Re: rescue disk

2004-11-30 Thread Tony Godshall
According to Hugo Vanwoerkom,
> George Iordanou wrote:
> >I want to create a rescue disk. I went to debian's official webpage
> >and i downloaded the unstable version which consists of the following
> >files:
> >
> >boot.img
> >cd-drivers.img
> >net-drivers.img
> >root.img
> >
> >How can i create a bootable rescue disk? I want to get into my system
> >using the floppy's kernel.
> >
> 
> Is a bootable rescue CD OK? mkrescue is part of Lilo and creates either 
> floppies or CD with "mkrescue --iso", which iso your burn with cdrecord.
> 
> I modified mkrescue --iso, which is a script, to come up with a menu 
> that actually says which partition is going to boot, rather than "Linux".
> 
> Booting that CD gives you the option of using the partition you ran 
> mkrescue from or what is on the MBR ("harddisk").

Sounds handy.

Can you post a patch?


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Re: rescue disk

2004-11-30 Thread Wayne Topa
George Iordanou([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> Thanks a lot for your help.
> 
> 
> > if you have a bootable disk with chroot, you can run the mkrescue (or
> > maybe mkboot for a bootdisk). I usually use knoppix.
> Unfortunately i haven't exactly understood the procedure. Do i need
> knoppix? I have the installation cd of sarge.
> 
<- snip ->
> What is mkrescue?
> 
> Excuse me, i'm very confused and i'm trying to understand the
> procedure so that i fix the problem. Thanks a lot for your feedback

$ which mkrescue
/usr/sbin/mkrescue

$ dpkg -S /usr/sbin/mkrescue
lilo: /usr/sbin/mkrescue

$man mkrescue
MKRESCUE(8)

NAME
   mkrescue - make rescue floppy

SYNOPSIS
   /usr/sbin/mkrescue - make a bootable rescue floppy or CD using the
default kernel specified in lilo.conf.

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Re: rescue disk

2004-11-30 Thread Chris Lale
On Tue, 2004-11-30 at 16:29, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> George Iordanou wrote:
> > I want to create a rescue disk. I went to debian's official webpage
> > and i downloaded the unstable version which consists of the following
> > files:
> > 
> > boot.img
> > cd-drivers.img
> > net-drivers.img
> > root.img
> > 
> > How can i create a bootable rescue disk? I want to get into my system
> > using the floppy's kernel.
> > 
> 
> Is a bootable rescue CD OK? mkrescue is part of Lilo and creates either 
> floppies or CD with "mkrescue --iso", which iso your burn with cdrecord.
> 
> I modified mkrescue --iso, which is a script, to come up with a menu 
> that actually says which partition is going to boot, rather than "Linux".
> 
> Booting that CD gives you the option of using the partition you ran 
> mkrescue from or what is on the MBR ("harddisk").

dfsbuild is a Sarge package. I have not tried it, but it produces a
grub-booting CD ISO for you to burn:

Debian From Scratch (DFS) is a live bootable CD that is designed to
provide a fully-featured kernel and a fully-featured rescue environment.
The rescue environment contains filesystem tools, editors, C development
environment, etc.

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Re: rescue disk

2004-11-30 Thread George Iordanou
Thanks a lot for your help.


> if you have a bootable disk with chroot, you can run the mkrescue (or
> maybe mkboot for a bootdisk). I usually use knoppix.
Unfortunately i haven't exactly understood the procedure. Do i need
knoppix? I have the installation cd of sarge.


> Is a bootable rescue CD OK? mkrescue is part of Lilo and creates either
> floppies or CD with "mkrescue --iso", which iso your burn with cdrecord.
I am using Grub not Lilo

> I modified mkrescue --iso, which is a script, to come up with a menu
> that actually says which partition is going to boot, rather than "Linux".
> Booting that CD gives you the option of using the partition you ran
> mkrescue from or what is on the MBR ("harddisk").
What is mkrescue?

Excuse me, i'm very confused and i'm trying to understand the
procedure so that i fix the problem. Thanks a lot for your feedback


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Re: rescue disk

2004-11-30 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
George Iordanou wrote:
I want to create a rescue disk. I went to debian's official webpage
and i downloaded the unstable version which consists of the following
files:
boot.img
cd-drivers.img
net-drivers.img
root.img
How can i create a bootable rescue disk? I want to get into my system
using the floppy's kernel.
Is a bootable rescue CD OK? mkrescue is part of Lilo and creates either 
floppies or CD with "mkrescue --iso", which iso your burn with cdrecord.

I modified mkrescue --iso, which is a script, to come up with a menu 
that actually says which partition is going to boot, rather than "Linux".

Booting that CD gives you the option of using the partition you ran 
mkrescue from or what is on the MBR ("harddisk").

HTH
H



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Re: rescue disk

2004-11-29 Thread Kevin Mark
On Mon, Nov 29, 2004 at 08:47:41PM +0200, George Iordanou wrote:
> I want to create a rescue disk. I went to debian's official webpage
> and i downloaded the unstable version which consists of the following
> files:
> 
> boot.img
> cd-drivers.img
> net-drivers.img
> root.img
> 
> How can i create a bootable rescue disk? I want to get into my system
> using the floppy's kernel.
> 
> Thanks,
> George
> 
> 
Hi George,
if you have a bootable disk with chroot, you can run the mkrescue (or
maybe mkboot for a bootdisk). I usually use knoppix.
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Re: rescue disk

2004-11-29 Thread George Iordanou
I've actually managed to create a boot disk using dd command. I cannot
mount my / filesystem though

Partition table:
/dev/hda1 /boot
/dev/hda2 /home
/dev/hda3 /

boot: linux rescue root=/dev/hda3

Isn't this the right command to mount the / system using the CD/floppy's kernel?

Cheers,
George


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> On Mon, 2004-11-29 at 20:47 +0200, George Iordanou wrote:
> 
> 
> > I want to create a rescue disk. I went to debian's official webpage
> > and i downloaded the unstable version which consists of the following
> > files:
> >
> > boot.img
> > cd-drivers.img
> > net-drivers.img
> > root.img
> >
> > How can i create a bootable rescue disk? I want to get into my system
> > using the floppy's kernel.
> 
> Have you tried Knoppix?
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Re: rescue disk

2004-11-29 Thread Ron Johnson
On Mon, 2004-11-29 at 20:47 +0200, George Iordanou wrote:
> I want to create a rescue disk. I went to debian's official webpage
> and i downloaded the unstable version which consists of the following
> files:
> 
> boot.img
> cd-drivers.img
> net-drivers.img
> root.img
> 
> How can i create a bootable rescue disk? I want to get into my system
> using the floppy's kernel.

Have you tried Knoppix?

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rescue disk

2004-11-29 Thread George Iordanou
I want to create a rescue disk. I went to debian's official webpage
and i downloaded the unstable version which consists of the following
files:

boot.img
cd-drivers.img
net-drivers.img
root.img

How can i create a bootable rescue disk? I want to get into my system
using the floppy's kernel.

Thanks,
George


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how to use sarge boot disc as rescue disk?

2004-11-19 Thread Bruno Boettcher
Hello!

trying to get my server working again.. somehow is the MBR of the boot
disk corrupt, and i don't seem to get it repaired
(should have never thought about rebooting that damn machine... was
 running fine for 3 years)

thus i want to be at least able to boot the system from a cd
downloaded the sarge dvd iso (jigdo) and bootet giving the
root=/dev/sda1 option with it to let it find the correct root...

and that damn thing answers that it doesn't know sda 

how can i tell the kernel that it absolutely needs the scsi (aic7xxx)
  module?? otherwise i am really stuck... there are not a single ide hd
  in there


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Re: Booting From Rescue Disk To Begin Clean Install

2003-01-30 Thread Eric Nelson
sounds like a problem with either the bios on the boot machine, floppy
disk (I'd check this first. just recently bought a 20 pack of s h i t t y 
disks,  pardon my french),  or a bad drive possibly on either machine
and most likely the booting one.

Either way, you're on the right track with getting the rescue disk but
you need to grab root.bin and driver1-4.bin also. make sure you have
some good disks that dd cleanly, 14 in and 14 out. and some time for 
the install. It really sux you don't have a cdrom to run off of but 
I'm noone to talk. 

I'm so lazy that after putting together my newest server I used the same
two floppies throughout the install process. Lucky for me I had a couple
machines here to juggle with.


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Booting From Rescue Disk To Begin Clean Install

2003-01-30 Thread Joseph A Nagy Jr
I'm not sure if this is the right list, but I'm gonna try here (I'm also
subscribed to several other of the Debian lists, including debian-boot,
so if this question belongs there, please excuse my faux pas).

Currently I'm running RedHat 7.2 on my main machine. I want to install
Debian on a secondary machine (to possibly become a fulltime webserver).
Using the commdand:

dd if=rescue.bin of=/dev/fd0 bs=1024 conv=sync ; sync

Gives me a disk that I can boot the other machine with. At the boot
prompt, I hit enter and the boot sequence fails (I'm going to have to do
a network install as I don't have a CD-ROM for either machine). I retry,
using the same disk, and it prints "Loading." at the top of the
screen, then it just starts pringtin a letter and some numbers (e.g. A
3498), it does so with one combination per line for about 30 lines, then
restarts the machine. I have tried Debian before (on this machine, but
had problems with getting the Xwindows server up and running) and had no
problems with doing the install as I was able to make everything from
the ISO images to the install floppy here, but the other machine doesn't
even have a working OS on it atm (if any param's such as cpu, RAM, and
what not are needed, I'll gladly provide).

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What rescue disk with scsi drivers?

2002-12-14 Thread Robert L. Harris


  I need to rescue a system that doesn't seem to like grub.   My disks
are on an IBM MegaRaid controller.  The compact and normal boot methods
off CD1 aren't able to detect it...

Erf?


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Re: rescue disk for powerPC (beige G3)

2002-11-25 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 12:34:46PM -0800, Micha Feigin wrote:
> I am trying to run a beige G3 mac (powerpc) with only linux on it (no
> mac-os) which rools out bootX if I can.

I actually don't think this is possible.  The beige G3 seems to occupy
some strange space between NewWorld and OldWorld, and neither yaboot nor
qwik can boot it.  I struggled with this for some time before giving up
and using BootX on a really tiny MacOS 9 installation.  It sucks, but it
works.

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though I don't think they'll be able to help you get rid of BootX.

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rescue disk for powerPC (beige G3)

2002-11-25 Thread Micha Feigin
I am trying to run a beige G3 mac (powerpc) with only linux on it (no
mac-os) which rools out bootX if I can.
I was wondering what was the best way to boot the system (hda2).
I tried to make a rescue disk, but was unsuccesful thus far as I don't
have much installed and I can't boot into the system properly.
Since  quik won't work on these machines, is there any way to make it
boot of the harddisk, and/or create a rescure disk either from it or
from an intel based system, or if there is somewhere I can download an
image?
All I have installed on it is the basic instellation from floppys and
the base system.
I tryed booting of the rescue disk from the instellation set, but the
disket itself isn't bootable, I then tried first booting the
boot-floppy-hfs and instead of inserting the root disk to insert the
boot disk. It started up but I got the message the couldn't open
display, please enter kernel option init= (or something like that).
That happened right after the usb started up, and the machine doesn't
have usb.
Thanks.

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*thanks, will work on it* Re: ls120 (Howto make it a Bootable/Rescue Disk)

2002-11-01 Thread Michelle Storm
I'll figure it out... Eventually. Thanks for the help.

On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 12:19:43PM -0500, Jameson C. Burt wrote:
> I spent a several days trying to do this myself.
> This got me looking beyond LILO to trying GRUB, 
> which didn't do all I wanted either.
> I never could boot the $10 (U.S.) LS-120 diskettes, 
> but I could eventually boot a regular 25 cent 1.44MB diskettes 
> through my LS-120 drive.
> [I understand the LS-240 drive can extend a 1.44MB diskette to 32MB--wow]
> Using LS-120 diskettes, I could not get beyond "GRUB Geom Error". 
> 
> A couple months ago, I read that Linus uses no floppy drive,
> so that rather clinched that I should no longer try booting off the
> floppy, and I no longer seek any resolution about booting from diskettes.
> If I want to boot, I boot off my Debian CD.
> If I want to repair my Debian filesystem, after booting off the Debian CD,
> I believe I eventually do control-F1, then mount my problematic disk
> drives and repair them.
> One might consider further investigating booting from LS-120 diskettes
> ONLY on otherwise diskless computers that will be thin clients,
> or full-defense computers with no other disk drives and LS-120 diskettes 
> switched to "read-only".
> [The wonderful LS-120 is the only hardware besides diskettes 
> and some tape cassettes that can be truly switched to read-only]
> 
> TIME-SAVING-LINUX-RULE: 
> "If some administrative approach seems odd, 
> and takes much manipulation, you should try another approach 
> or abandon that task."
> 
> If you must make many file manipulations involving hours of thought,
> you can find that your next Debian upgrade requires 
> repeating your manipulations or manipulating a different way.
> I have decided that an administrative task that requires many file changes
> is best left with the Debian packagers (if possible), or abandoned.
> Over-specializing without benefitting others through mass-production 
> seems largely futile.
> The above time-saving rule has led me to abandon booting off diskettes,
> abandon using a mouse in console mode,
> and abandon all but trivial manipulations of a window manager.
> 
> 
> 
> ~~~Following is somewhat how I booted from a 1.44MB floppy on an LS-120 drive. 
> 
> These notes are somewhat chaotic, 
> probably reflecting the chaotic Linux support of the LS-120. 
> There is a command "grub-floppy", but I sought finer control 
> with this different LS-120. 
> For booting off a regular floppy on an LS-120 drive, here are some
> notes I wrote myself over a year ago about using grub.
> My LS-120 is on /dev/hdc.
> 
> ~~~ /boot/grub/device.map ~~~
> #I included no actual comments in this file.
> #The following seemed necessary and necessary that the file
> # device.map be in /boot/grub
> #on the full-system; 
> #no effect when on floppy itself since such a device.map 
> #on /dev/hdc is not used during boot.
> #THIS FIRST LINE WAS RATHER CRUCIAL, as I recall.
> (fd0)  /dev/hdc
> 
> #I have 2 scsi drives:
> (hd0)  /dev/sda 
> (hd1)  /dev/sdb
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I then prepared my 1.44MB floppy, which for my LS-120 
> is /dev/hdc (CAREFUL).
> and copied a kernel to it, using up most of its filespace of course.
>  mke2fs /dev/hdc   #makes block-size 1024 bytes.
>  mount /dev/hdc /mnt
>  rmdir /mnt/lost+found #This merely distracts when using grub.
>  mkdir /mnt/boot
>  mkdir /mnt/boot/grub
>  # Kernel images follow:
>  cp -p /boot/bzImage-2.4.2 /mnt/boot
>  # NOTE: THE "GRUB MANUAL: FAQ", APPENDIX A, FOR BOOT-FLOPPY SAYS
>  # "YOU MAY NOT COPY stage1.5".
>  cp -p /boot/grub/{menu.lst,stage1,stage2}  /mnt/boot/grub
>  #device.map probably needn't be copied;
>  #alter menu.lst to point to (fd0) rather than (hd1,0).
>  touch /mnt/THIS-IS-THE-FLOPPY-DEVICE #I kept getting lost.
>  umount /mnt
> 
> 
> 
> At one point, I entered the following "grub",
> needing a /boot/grub/device.map not on the floppy 
> to even recognize device (fd0).
> grub  --device-map=/boot/grub/device.map
>   grub> find ( 
> Possible disks are:  fd0 hd1 hd2
> #booting would give that choice also, I hope.
>   grub> find (fd0)/ #booting, I try  "find (fd0)/ "
>  Possible files are: grub bzImage-2.4.2 floppy-no-partitions boot
>   grub> root (fd0)
>  Filesystem type is ext2fs, using whole disk
>   grub> setup (fd0)
> Checking if "/boot/grub/stage1" exists... yes
> Checking if "/boot/grub/stage2" exists... yes
> Checking if "/boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5" exists... yes
> # Running "embed /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 (fd0)"... 
>   failed (this is not fatal)  
>   #because not enough space in MBR when I made no partitions?
> # Running "embed /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 (fd0)"... 
>   failed (this is not fatal)
> Checking if "/boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5" exists... no 
>#re

Re: ls120 (Howto make it a Bootable/Rescue Disk)

2002-10-31 Thread Jameson C. Burt
I spent a several days trying to do this myself.
This got me looking beyond LILO to trying GRUB, 
which didn't do all I wanted either.
I never could boot the $10 (U.S.) LS-120 diskettes, 
but I could eventually boot a regular 25 cent 1.44MB diskettes 
through my LS-120 drive.
[I understand the LS-240 drive can extend a 1.44MB diskette to 32MB--wow]
Using LS-120 diskettes, I could not get beyond "GRUB Geom Error". 

A couple months ago, I read that Linus uses no floppy drive,
so that rather clinched that I should no longer try booting off the
floppy, and I no longer seek any resolution about booting from diskettes.
If I want to boot, I boot off my Debian CD.
If I want to repair my Debian filesystem, after booting off the Debian CD,
I believe I eventually do control-F1, then mount my problematic disk
drives and repair them.
One might consider further investigating booting from LS-120 diskettes
ONLY on otherwise diskless computers that will be thin clients,
or full-defense computers with no other disk drives and LS-120 diskettes 
switched to "read-only".
[The wonderful LS-120 is the only hardware besides diskettes 
and some tape cassettes that can be truly switched to read-only]

TIME-SAVING-LINUX-RULE: 
"If some administrative approach seems odd, 
and takes much manipulation, you should try another approach 
or abandon that task."

If you must make many file manipulations involving hours of thought,
you can find that your next Debian upgrade requires 
repeating your manipulations or manipulating a different way.
I have decided that an administrative task that requires many file changes
is best left with the Debian packagers (if possible), or abandoned.
Over-specializing without benefitting others through mass-production 
seems largely futile.
The above time-saving rule has led me to abandon booting off diskettes,
abandon using a mouse in console mode,
and abandon all but trivial manipulations of a window manager.



~~~Following is somewhat how I booted from a 1.44MB floppy on an LS-120 drive. 

These notes are somewhat chaotic, 
probably reflecting the chaotic Linux support of the LS-120. 
There is a command "grub-floppy", but I sought finer control 
with this different LS-120. 
For booting off a regular floppy on an LS-120 drive, here are some
notes I wrote myself over a year ago about using grub.
My LS-120 is on /dev/hdc.

~~~ /boot/grub/device.map ~~~
#I included no actual comments in this file.
#The following seemed necessary and necessary that the file
# device.map be in /boot/grub
#on the full-system; 
#no effect when on floppy itself since such a device.map 
#on /dev/hdc is not used during boot.
#THIS FIRST LINE WAS RATHER CRUCIAL, as I recall.
(fd0)  /dev/hdc

#I have 2 scsi drives:
(hd0)  /dev/sda 
(hd1)  /dev/sdb




I then prepared my 1.44MB floppy, which for my LS-120 
is /dev/hdc (CAREFUL).
and copied a kernel to it, using up most of its filespace of course.
 mke2fs /dev/hdc   #makes block-size 1024 bytes.
 mount /dev/hdc /mnt
 rmdir /mnt/lost+found #This merely distracts when using grub.
 mkdir /mnt/boot
 mkdir /mnt/boot/grub
 # Kernel images follow:
 cp -p /boot/bzImage-2.4.2 /mnt/boot
 # NOTE: THE "GRUB MANUAL: FAQ", APPENDIX A, FOR BOOT-FLOPPY SAYS
 # "YOU MAY NOT COPY stage1.5".
 cp -p /boot/grub/{menu.lst,stage1,stage2}  /mnt/boot/grub
 #device.map probably needn't be copied;
 #alter menu.lst to point to (fd0) rather than (hd1,0).
 touch /mnt/THIS-IS-THE-FLOPPY-DEVICE   #I kept getting lost.
 umount /mnt



At one point, I entered the following "grub",
needing a /boot/grub/device.map not on the floppy 
to even recognize device (fd0).
grub  --device-map=/boot/grub/device.map
  grub> find ( 
Possible disks are:  fd0 hd1 hd2
#booting would give that choice also, I hope.
  grub> find (fd0)/ #booting, I try  "find (fd0)/ "
 Possible files are: grub bzImage-2.4.2 floppy-no-partitions boot
  grub> root (fd0)
 Filesystem type is ext2fs, using whole disk
  grub> setup (fd0)
Checking if "/boot/grub/stage1" exists... yes
Checking if "/boot/grub/stage2" exists... yes
Checking if "/boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5" exists... yes
# Running "embed /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 (fd0)"... 
  failed (this is not fatal)  
  #because not enough space in MBR when I made no partitions?
# Running "embed /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 (fd0)"... 
  failed (this is not fatal)
Checking if "/boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5" exists... no 
   #response when leave out e2fs_stage1_5 from floppy.
Running "install /boot/grub/stage1 d (fd0) /boot/grub/stage2 p 
   /boot/grub/menu.lst "... succeeded
Done.
  grub> quit

As I recall, I could then boot from this 1.44MB diskette on my LS-120 drive.


On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 03:06:20AM -0800, Michelle Storm wrote:
> I have an l

ls120 (Howto make it a Bootable/Rescue Disk)

2002-10-31 Thread Michelle Storm
I have an ls120 drive. I am still pretty new, and have looked all over,
but can't find a way to make an LS-120 bootable.

I have found a way to reformat it and all the partitions on it work.

It's like having a 120mb hd. (but slower)

What I want to do is get a copy of my current kernel (or a new one after
I customize it and set it up) and put it on the ls-120 and use the
ls-120 as a backup system disk (ie: rescue disks).

Any ideas? I've already tried all the things I could find for making
boot floppies, rescue disks.. etc.. I just don't know where to go from
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Re: Debian rescue disk replaced kernel

2001-11-20 Thread Michael Heldebrant
On Tue, 2001-11-20 at 11:38, Daniel Serodio wrote:
>   Heh, been there. After 2 days trying, I gave up, installed the base
> system using 2.2.17-reiserfs (from
> http://chao.ucsd.edu/debian/boot-floppies/), and upgraded to 2.4.x
> afterwards (add "deb http://people.debian.org/~bunk/debian potato main"
> to apt.sources, apt-get dist-upgrade).
>   I think maybe syslinux, init or something in the boot disks is not
> compatible with 2.4.x. If you do find a fix, please email me. Hope that
> helped.

Speaking of 2.4 bootdisks, has anyone ever gotten BOOTP or DHCP NFS root
to work?  I've had no luck, I've tried the rdev trickery on a raw floppy
as specified in the nfs-root in the docs, proper parameters for both
lilo and syslinux.  A 2.2 kernel created for the FAI package works fine.

--mike





Re: Debian rescue disk replaced kernel

2001-11-20 Thread Daniel Serodio
Heh, been there. After 2 days trying, I gave up, installed the base
system using 2.2.17-reiserfs (from
http://chao.ucsd.edu/debian/boot-floppies/), and upgraded to 2.4.x
afterwards (add "deb http://people.debian.org/~bunk/debian potato main"
to apt.sources, apt-get dist-upgrade).
I think maybe syslinux, init or something in the boot disks is not
compatible with 2.4.x. If you do find a fix, please email me. Hope that
helped.

On Tue, 2001-11-20 at 02:31, Roman Mitz wrote:
> Hi, I'm running into a problem here and wanted to see if anyone else saw
> something like it before.
> 
> I was following the instructions in "Technical information on the Boot
> Floppies"  to replace the Rescue Floppy Kernel, as I have a machine with a
> promise raid controller I want to use for the root.  I put 2.4.14 (with
> the loop.c modification) on the disk.
> 
> Bootup looks fine, it detects the controller and disks, etc.  Everything
> looks good until it goes to load the root ramdisk.  It finds the
> compressed image, says it mounts, and then gets "no init found".  I
> confirmed that this ramdisk works with a standard boot floppy.
> 
> I tried several combinations of init= parameters, though those didn't
> work, as expected.
> 
> So, what simple thing am I missing?  Thanks in advance for your input.
> 
> Roman.
> --
> Director of Computing Resources
> The Center for the Neural Basis of Cognition
> 
> 
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Debian rescue disk replaced kernel

2001-11-19 Thread Roman Mitz
Hi, I'm running into a problem here and wanted to see if anyone else saw
something like it before.

I was following the instructions in "Technical information on the Boot
Floppies"  to replace the Rescue Floppy Kernel, as I have a machine with a
promise raid controller I want to use for the root.  I put 2.4.14 (with
the loop.c modification) on the disk.

Bootup looks fine, it detects the controller and disks, etc.  Everything
looks good until it goes to load the root ramdisk.  It finds the
compressed image, says it mounts, and then gets "no init found".  I
confirmed that this ramdisk works with a standard boot floppy.

I tried several combinations of init= parameters, though those didn't
work, as expected.

So, what simple thing am I missing?  Thanks in advance for your input.

Roman.
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Re: How can I create /dev/st0, when booted from a rescue disk?

2001-10-21 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sat, Oct 20, 2001 at 05:32:01PM -0400, Stan Brown ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> I'm trying to restore to a new hard drive, because my root disk is dying.
> 
> I have a good backup on tape, and it looks like the rescue disk ssupports
> the SCSI card I have, and recognizes the tape drive. However I can't find
> /dev/st0.

Compile SCSI tape support.

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Re: How can I create /dev/st0, when booted from a rescue disk?

2001-10-21 Thread Shaul Karl
> I'm trying to restore to a new hard drive, because my root disk is dying.
> 
> I have a good backup on tape, and it looks like the rescue disk ssupports
> the SCSI card I have, and recognizes the tape drive. However I can't find
> /dev/st0.
> 
> How can I create this?
> 


Probably with /dev/MAKEDEV. 
MAKEDEV has a manpage you might be interested in.


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How can I create /dev/st0, when booted from a rescue disk?

2001-10-20 Thread Stan Brown
I'm trying to restore to a new hard drive, because my root disk is dying.

I have a good backup on tape, and it looks like the rescue disk ssupports
the SCSI card I have, and recognizes the tape drive. However I can't find
/dev/st0.

How can I create this?

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Re: creating debian rescue disk

2001-08-21 Thread Brian Lavender
I don't know if you noticed, but that disk is mountable. You can
actually copy a new kernel onto it which has reiserfs support. 
Compile your new kernel, mount the disk, and copy the new kernel
over the old one. It's in msdos file format, so you can even
copy over in Windows.

The disk is a syslinux disk. For details, check out the SYSLINUS
web page.

http://syslinux.zytor.com/

brian

On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 10:03:01PM +0200, Timo " BlazkoBoewing wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have quite trouble with my laptop: it will only boot with the ide 
> rescue disks (e.g. http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/dists/ 
> woody/main/disks-i386/3.0.9-2001-08-11/images-1.44/ide/),
> neither any other CD image neither floppy image works (not even idepci).
> The thing is that it locks the machine when probing for any SCSI 
> devices, I presume.
> 
> My problem is that I *strongly* intend to use reiserfs. But being 
> derived from idepci, the reiser floppies wont boot. Cos the ide flavour 
> does not support reiserfs, can anyone give me advice how to create a 
> debian rescue disk for woody???
> Of course I am not afraid of compiling my own kernel, but I dunno how to 
> bind it with the bootstrap menu things.
> 
> Any ideas???
> 
> Greetings & thanx,
> 
> Timo
> 
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USB Rescue Disk...?

2001-08-12 Thread Brad Pillatsch
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memory allocation, it causes the linux kernel to hang.  So basically
I just need a USB rescue disk to solve all my probs :)

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Re: rescue disk install

2001-07-05 Thread Osamu Aoki
As I see kernel configuration of recent 2.2.19, most of USB staffs are
compiled as modules.  That means you may eed to add those module names
to /etc/modules or manually do insmod/modprobe those modules to enable
USB functionality  Good luck :-)

(I do not have such a fancy PC so above are just specuration.)

On Wed, Jul 04, 2001 at 02:05:56PM -0600, Jeff Conder wrote:
> Thanks for the ideas Brian.
> 
> Luckily I had a 6 pin connector on the tower and another
> keyboard. It got me up an installed - now the moment
> of truth :o  I'm going to reboot and see if the system
> works. I installed the USB keyboard driver.
> 
> btw - this is my first install.
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Jeff
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Brian Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 9:56 AM
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: rescue disk install
> 
> On Wed, Jul 04, 2001 at 01:20:13AM -0600, Jeff Conder wrote:
> > Has anyone installed potato on a system with a USB keyboard?
> > I have a rescue and root disk, but when I'm asked to insert
> > the root disk and press return, nothing happens. I put the
> > root disk in but can't get the install to continue. It doesn't
> > seem to recognize my keboard.
> >
> > Thanks - Jeff
> 
> I haven't tried a USB-only keyboard with linux, but...
> 
> Did you try enabling USB keyboard support in the BIOS?  I'm not sure
> what that does, but it may work...
> 
> Do you have a USB/pin-6 or whatever adapter for it?  Or does it have
> both a USB and pin-6 connections on the same cable?  Mine does, and I
> simultaneously plug in both ends so I have normal keyboard support and
> can use the built-in USB hub.
> 
> Otherwise, you may have to make your own boot disk with USB keyboard
> support if there aren't any currently available.
> 
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RE: rescue disk install

2001-07-04 Thread Jeff Conder
Thanks for the ideas Brian.

Luckily I had a 6 pin connector on the tower and another
keyboard. It got me up an installed - now the moment
of truth :o  I'm going to reboot and see if the system
works. I installed the USB keyboard driver.

btw - this is my first install.


Thanks

Jeff

-Original Message-
From: Brian Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 9:56 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: rescue disk install

On Wed, Jul 04, 2001 at 01:20:13AM -0600, Jeff Conder wrote:
> Has anyone installed potato on a system with a USB keyboard?
> I have a rescue and root disk, but when I'm asked to insert
> the root disk and press return, nothing happens. I put the
> root disk in but can't get the install to continue. It doesn't
> seem to recognize my keboard.
>
> Thanks - Jeff

I haven't tried a USB-only keyboard with linux, but...

Did you try enabling USB keyboard support in the BIOS?  I'm not sure
what that does, but it may work...

Do you have a USB/pin-6 or whatever adapter for it?  Or does it have
both a USB and pin-6 connections on the same cable?  Mine does, and I
simultaneously plug in both ends so I have normal keyboard support and
can use the built-in USB hub.

Otherwise, you may have to make your own boot disk with USB keyboard
support if there aren't any currently available.

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RE: rescue disk install

2001-07-04 Thread Jeff Conder
Thanks for the ideas Brian.

Luckily I had a 6 pin connector on the tower and another
keyboard. It got me up an installed - now the moment
of truth :o  I'm going to reboot and see if the system
works. I installed the USB keyboard driver.

btw - this is my first install.


Thanks

Jeff

-Original Message-
From: Brian Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 9:56 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: rescue disk install

On Wed, Jul 04, 2001 at 01:20:13AM -0600, Jeff Conder wrote:
> Has anyone installed potato on a system with a USB keyboard?
> I have a rescue and root disk, but when I'm asked to insert
> the root disk and press return, nothing happens. I put the
> root disk in but can't get the install to continue. It doesn't
> seem to recognize my keboard.
>
> Thanks - Jeff

I haven't tried a USB-only keyboard with linux, but...

Did you try enabling USB keyboard support in the BIOS?  I'm not sure
what that does, but it may work...

Do you have a USB/pin-6 or whatever adapter for it?  Or does it have
both a USB and pin-6 connections on the same cable?  Mine does, and I
simultaneously plug in both ends so I have normal keyboard support and
can use the built-in USB hub.

Otherwise, you may have to make your own boot disk with USB keyboard
support if there aren't any currently available.

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Re: rescue disk install

2001-07-04 Thread Brian Nelson
On Wed, Jul 04, 2001 at 01:20:13AM -0600, Jeff Conder wrote:
> Has anyone installed potato on a system with a USB keyboard?
> I have a rescue and root disk, but when I'm asked to insert
> the root disk and press return, nothing happens. I put the
> root disk in but can't get the install to continue. It doesn't
> seem to recognize my keboard.
> 
> Thanks - Jeff

I haven't tried a USB-only keyboard with linux, but...

Did you try enabling USB keyboard support in the BIOS?  I'm not sure
what that does, but it may work...

Do you have a USB/pin-6 or whatever adapter for it?  Or does it have
both a USB and pin-6 connections on the same cable?  Mine does, and I
simultaneously plug in both ends so I have normal keyboard support and
can use the built-in USB hub.

Otherwise, you may have to make your own boot disk with USB keyboard
support if there aren't any currently available.

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RE: rescue disk install

2001-07-04 Thread Jeff Conder
Has anyone installed potato on a system with a USB keyboard?
I have a rescue and root disk, but when I'm asked to insert
the root disk and press return, nothing happens. I put the
root disk in but can't get the install to continue. It doesn't
seem to recognize my keboard.

Thanks - Jeff



Re: rescue disk install

2001-07-04 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi,

On Tue, Jul 03, 2001 at 09:17:40PM -0600, Jeff Conder wrote:
> Hi - I have not been able to get past the rescue disk install.

Which version potato/woody stable/testing?  I assume potato ;-)

> I've read and searched through the documents and haven't
> found anything that relates to what I perceive is the problem.
> 
> Any help on this would be appreciated:
> 
> My system is - 900MHz Athelon, 128M RAM, 60G IDE Hard
> drive, Adaptec SCSI PCI adapter, HP 10/100 Fast Ethernet
> PCI card, USB keyboard & mouse.

Nice.  I just installed potato to 486DX4 50MHz. (Here)

> I downloaded the i386 rescue binary for compact install
> and for basic install, same problems. Used rawrite2 to
> make a floppy. The floppy works fine, get the boot: prompt.

How about root and driver-? disks?

> I have tried normal boot (return), linux mem=128m, and
> linux mem=128m kbd-reset

That"s good but ... (W/o them can still boot with 64MB)

> My symptoms are - No major error messages, but can't
> stop the scroll. ATA keboard is not found during the
> process. I get to a prompt asking for the root disk
> to be inserted, then I'm suppose to press the ENTER
> key.

Only after you enter root disk into /dev/fd0

> But, my keyboard does not seem to work. I can't
> get past this point.
> 


See official install guide:
http://www.debian.org/doc/admin-manuals


Also this is helpful.
http://www.debian.org/doc/ddp

Also peek-into my experiences in my web page...  Good luck ;-)
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rescue disk install

2001-07-03 Thread Jeff Conder
Hi - I have not been able to get past the rescue disk install.

I've read and searched through the documents and haven't
found anything that relates to what I perceive is the problem.

Any help on this would be appreciated:

My system is - 900MHz Athelon, 128M RAM, 60G IDE Hard
drive, Adaptec SCSI PCI adapter, HP 10/100 Fast Ethernet
PCI card, USB keyboard & mouse.

I downloaded the i386 rescue binary for compact install
and for basic install, same problems. Used rawrite2 to
make a floppy. The floppy works fine, get the boot: prompt.

I have tried normal boot (return), linux mem=128m, and
linux mem=128m kbd-reset

My symptoms are - No major error messages, but can't
stop the scroll. ATA keboard is not found during the
process. I get to a prompt asking for the root disk
to be inserted, then I'm suppose to press the ENTER
key.

But, my keyboard does not seem to work. I can't
get past this point.

Help,

Jeff




patched rescue disk mount readonly / dell 2550

2001-05-23 Thread Emil Pedersen

Hello.

I've tried (and more or less suceded) in making a set of installation
disks that will function on Dell PowerEdge 2550 (perc3/di chip).

I started with the disk images for dell 2450 found on
http://www.merilus.com/~kevin/aacraid.html
compiled a new kernel (2.2.19 + aacraid + PERCID patch) and replaced the
original 'LINUX' on the rescue disk, run rdev and started installing.

Now the thing is, for some reason the root gets mounted read only while
using my new kernel (the first step when you set keyboard fails).  If I
remount the root read write, I can install as normal and everything
(seems like it) is working.  My question is; why does is mount the root
ro?  Using the original kernel mounts as it should (of course since I
didn't make it:-).

If anyone got any ideas, please share them with me.

Best regards,
Emil

Btw:
In case someone got a free tip how to get the Ge interface work it would
be appreceated to...



RE: Linux 2.4.2 rescue disk

2001-03-28 Thread Marius Moisescu
Thanks Ray,


I've found what I've been looking for.

So, if anyone would like to install potato using a 2.4.2 kernel/mkreiserfs
3.6.25, there are two sites that deal with this:

http://yokkunlinux.hypermart.net/, and
http://www.fh-furtwangen.de/~geiger/debian-reiserfs/

Again, thanks again for helping ;o)

Marius

-Original Message-
From: Ray Percival [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 4:34 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; Marius Moisescu
Cc: 'debian-user@lists.debian.org'
Subject: Re: Linux 2.4.2 rescue disk


Take a look at debianplanet.org they have a article that links to
some hacked boot disks for this. 
-- Original Message --
From: Marius Moisescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:48:43 -0500

>Hello,
>
>I've been looking for a 2.4.2 kernel rescue disk and haven't 

found any
>ready-made one yet.
>
>What I really need is kernel 2.4.x and mkreiserfs version 3.6.x 

(which
>supports files larger than 4GB) on a floppy. Then I would install 

Debian
>Potato, and finally dist-upgrade to unstable. 
>
>But I really need support for quite large files, so I have to use 

mkreiserfs
>version 3.6.x to initially format the ReiserFS partitions.
>
>Any ideas?
>
>Thanks,
>Marius
>
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Linux 2.4.2 rescue disk

2001-03-28 Thread Marius Moisescu
Hello,

I've been looking for a 2.4.2 kernel rescue disk and haven't found any
ready-made one yet.

What I really need is kernel 2.4.x and mkreiserfs version 3.6.x (which
supports files larger than 4GB) on a floppy. Then I would install Debian
Potato, and finally dist-upgrade to unstable. 

But I really need support for quite large files, so I have to use mkreiserfs
version 3.6.x to initially format the ReiserFS partitions.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Marius



booting a rescue disk

2001-02-22 Thread Michael P. Soulier

Hey people. I picked up an old Toshiba T4700CT laptop, and I'm trying to
replace win95 on it. I can't seem to get the rescue image to boot. I've tried
about 3 different boot disks, tested on my P-III, and they work, but on the
Toshiba I just get a "boot failed" error message. I've tried a win98 boot disk
and that works, but it doesn't seem to like the bootloader on the rescue disk. 

Any ideas?

Mike



rescue disk doesn't support soundblaster

2001-01-14 Thread Xucaen
Hi all..
I know this has come up before, but I'm really
confused. 
I have a soundblaster 16 CD ROM, but the rescue
disk doesn't support this. I have read all the
documentation that came with the debian distro
2.2r2 as well as the documentation on the
debian.org web site, and the CD ROM HOWTO at
linuxdoc.org and they all contradict each other.
(I assume because of different release versions)
They all give different procedures for installing
from CD using sbpcd.
I need to know if:
A) there is a rescue disk out there that supports
the sbpcd.
or
B) is there consistent documentation out there
that describes how to 1) install from CD using
the sbpcd or 2) make a new rescue disk that has
sbpcd compiled in or 3) how to load the sbpcd
module from the rescue disk

I'm sending this to the user list in the hopes
that a debian developer might have the answer.

thank you!!!

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Re: 2.4 kernel rescue disk?

2001-01-05 Thread Stephan Hachinger
Hello!

Hmm, I think the easiest way to create a boot floppy is to take an existing
bootfloppy with the syslinux loader on it (for example a debian rescue),
then compiling a kernel with the necessary drivers and patches (but no
modules!!!; also be sure that you have compiled in some things syslinux
requires - see readme files on the boot floppy), and putting this kernel on
the disk instead of the default kernel. I don't know if this works with the
2.4 ones, but it has worked with 2.2 and 2.0, so I don't think there will be
any problems...

Regards,

Stephan Hachinger

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To: "Mark Phillips" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: 2.4 kernel rescue disk?


> Mark Phillips wrote:
> >
> > Is there any way I can create my own custom rescue disk?  Is there a
> > package for doing this?  Is there a HOWTO?
>
> I'm pretty new to this list, but this has come up a lot.  Have a look
> at:
>
>  # man make-kpkg
>  # man mkboot
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Re: 2.4 kernel rescue disk?

2001-01-05 Thread Jon Pennington
Mark Phillips wrote:
> 
> Is there any way I can create my own custom rescue disk?  Is there a
> package for doing this?  Is there a HOWTO?

I'm pretty new to this list, but this has come up a lot.  Have a look
at:

 # man make-kpkg
 # man mkboot

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2.4 kernel rescue disk?

2001-01-05 Thread Mark Phillips
Now that kernel 2.4 is officially released, is there going to be a
kernel 2.4 based rescue disk produced?

I really need one with the ReiserFS support compiled in (ReiserFS
requires a patch).  My reason is that I am using LVM and ReiserFS ---
which means that if anything ever goes wrong, I won't be able to use a
2.2 based rescue disk to fix things up!

Is there any way I can create my own custom rescue disk?  Is there a
package for doing this?  Is there a HOWTO?

Thanks,

Mark.

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Rescue disk for kernel 2.4.0?

2000-11-27 Thread Mark Phillips
Is there a rescue disk for kernel 2.4.0 yet?  If not, is it possible to
"roll your own"?  How hard is it?

Thanks,

Mark.

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Re: Debian rescue-cd (instead of those spartanic rescue-disk)?

2000-09-23 Thread Seth Cohn
1) the Linuxcare Bootable Biz card CD will do some of this
(http://www.linuxcare.com/bootable_cd

it will install a Slink+1/2, among other things.

2) Lubbock, my own project spunoff from the Linuxcare one,  and a major
goal of Lubbock is to become much more Debian-ish, and can always use more
developers (I've been too busy lately, and it's languished)

http://lubbock.sourceforge.net

Feel free to contribute

On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Christian Hammers wrote:

> Hello
> 
> Last week my system was absolutely unusuable due to some foolish lilo 
> experiments and I had trouble getting it working right again as I use
> reiserfs which is sadly not supported by any rescue disc or installation
> CD I have floating around here. The only collegue whom I gave reiserfs,
> too sadly had no disc drive and only a CD-ROM.
> 
> In this situation I asked myself why there is no proper Debian rescue CD
> package available that installes one or better two/three different
> kernels and a "live" filesystem in ramdisc which contains enough stuff
> to even compile a specific kernel and has all necessary documentation
> like the lilo manual etc installed. 
> 
> I could even think of a ready base system so that you could boot with
> this rescue CD, copy it to an empty harddisc and continue installing
> Debian with apt (an alternative to the normal Debian CDs for profis).
> 
> 
> Any thoughts? Are there rescue-disks (yard, the debian boot-floppies) 
> which could easily expanded to this setup? 
> (Else I really play with the thought to make this rescue script
> myself, but why reinventing the wheel as there are so many rescue-disks...)
> 
> bye,
> 
>  -christian-
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Debian rescue-cd (instead of those spartanic rescue-disk)?

2000-09-23 Thread Christian Hammers
Hello

Last week my system was absolutely unusuable due to some foolish lilo 
experiments and I had trouble getting it working right again as I use
reiserfs which is sadly not supported by any rescue disc or installation
CD I have floating around here. The only collegue whom I gave reiserfs,
too sadly had no disc drive and only a CD-ROM.

In this situation I asked myself why there is no proper Debian rescue CD
package available that installes one or better two/three different
kernels and a "live" filesystem in ramdisc which contains enough stuff
to even compile a specific kernel and has all necessary documentation
like the lilo manual etc installed. 

I could even think of a ready base system so that you could boot with
this rescue CD, copy it to an empty harddisc and continue installing
Debian with apt (an alternative to the normal Debian CDs for profis).


Any thoughts? Are there rescue-disks (yard, the debian boot-floppies) 
which could easily expanded to this setup? 
(Else I really play with the thought to make this rescue script
myself, but why reinventing the wheel as there are so many rescue-disks...)

bye,

 -christian-

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Re: unpartitioning with rescue disk

2000-08-17 Thread Shaul Karl
You might want to check GNU parted boot disk. But do read closely its USER 
file, both in order to determine if it fits your needs and in order to find 
out how to use it.
I had good expreince with its repartition and resizing features, but bad one 
with its mkfs.ext2 feature.


> Quoting Ed Burton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > I tried to partition with the Rescue disk, then
> > lost my Win32 MBR. I am using EZ_Bios (installed from
> > floppy) from Western Digital (I have a new 10.2g WD
> > drive), so luckily I was able to restore the MBR. My
> > Award BIOS cannot read above 2gb I wanted a 2gig
> > partition for Debian (Potato, frozen, downloaded
> > 8/13/00), but ended up with a new drive under windows
> > (Drive D #2). Linux rescue still would not allow
> > me to partition, and says I have 4 partitions already.
> > Can I UNPARTITION it, then repartition it? The
> > instructions were not clear which one to partition;
> > The first primary listed, or the free space. I have
> > about 8gb free now (though windows98 says the second
> > HD (partition) is FAT, noncompressed, or FAT16). I
> > only have One hardrive installed. Should I use Win98
> > fdisk to fix the partition, then Re-run rescue from
> > dos?
> 
> I think you are in danger of losing the contents of your disk.
> I wouldn't do anything until you've received AND understood
> some expert advice. Unfortunately I don't have time to do this
> myself at the moment (and I'm no expert). Sorry.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
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Re: unpartitioning with rescue disk

2000-08-17 Thread David Wright
Quoting Ed Burton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> I tried to partition with the Rescue disk, then
> lost my Win32 MBR. I am using EZ_Bios (installed from
> floppy) from Western Digital (I have a new 10.2g WD
> drive), so luckily I was able to restore the MBR. My
> Award BIOS cannot read above 2gb I wanted a 2gig
> partition for Debian (Potato, frozen, downloaded
> 8/13/00), but ended up with a new drive under windows
> (Drive D #2). Linux rescue still would not allow
> me to partition, and says I have 4 partitions already.
> Can I UNPARTITION it, then repartition it? The
> instructions were not clear which one to partition;
> The first primary listed, or the free space. I have
> about 8gb free now (though windows98 says the second
> HD (partition) is FAT, noncompressed, or FAT16). I
> only have One hardrive installed. Should I use Win98
> fdisk to fix the partition, then Re-run rescue from
> dos?

I think you are in danger of losing the contents of your disk.
I wouldn't do anything until you've received AND understood
some expert advice. Unfortunately I don't have time to do this
myself at the moment (and I'm no expert). Sorry.

Cheers,

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unpartitioning with rescue disk

2000-08-16 Thread Ed Burton
I tried to partition with the Rescue disk, then
lost my Win32 MBR. I am using EZ_Bios (installed from
floppy) from Western Digital (I have a new 10.2g WD
drive), so luckily I was able to restore the MBR. My
Award BIOS cannot read above 2gb I wanted a 2gig
partition for Debian (Potato, frozen, downloaded
8/13/00), but ended up with a new drive under windows
(Drive D #2). Linux rescue still would not allow
me to partition, and says I have 4 partitions already.
Can I UNPARTITION it, then repartition it? The
instructions were not clear which one to partition;
The first primary listed, or the free space. I have
about 8gb free now (though windows98 says the second
HD (partition) is FAT, noncompressed, or FAT16). I
only have One hardrive installed. Should I use Win98
fdisk to fix the partition, then Re-run rescue from
dos?

Ed Burton,
Hopefully soon-to-be User


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Re: Install problem - Locks up during boot off of rescue disk

1999-09-16 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Thanks for the tip.  These disks didn't work, but there was another link to 
someone
else who had come up with the solution.  This one worked for me.  (I don't have 
the
link handy because I do not have web access from this system.

Doug

"Thomas R. Shemanske" wrote:

> The problem is a conflict between the aic7xxx driver for the 2940 card
> and the other SCSI drivers on the standard rescue disk.
>
> See http://www.debian.org/~adric/aic7xxx/slink/5.1.15/
> for a set of install rescue and driver disks which should get you over
> the hump.
>
> Best,
>
> T. R. Shemanske
>
> > Subject: Install problem - Locks up during boot off of rescue disk.
> > Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 09:55:38 -0700
> > From: Doug Thistlethwaite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "debian-user@lists.debian.org" 
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am trying to install debian onto a Dell Optiplex GXM5133 system with
> > 32 Meg of memory and a Adaptec AHA-2940 bios v1.16 PCI scsi controller.
> >
> > I am installing off of floppys with the intention finishing the install
> > via ftp.
> >
> > The rescue disk appears to boot fine and I get to the point where you
> > press  to boot for F1..F? for instructions.  When I press enter
> > everything looks normal until it gets to the scsi0 lines  The system
> > locks up at this point.  The last three lines are:
> >
> > (scsi0)  found at PCI 12/0
> > (scsi0) Narrow Channel, scsi ID=7, 16/255 SCBs
> > (scsi0) Downloading sequencer code...  412 instructions downloaded
> >
> > The system locks up at this point.  What should I do?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Doug Thistlethwaite
> >
>
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Re: Install problem - Locks up during boot off of rescue disk

1999-09-14 Thread Thomas R. Shemanske
The problem is a conflict between the aic7xxx driver for the 2940 card
and the other SCSI drivers on the standard rescue disk.

See http://www.debian.org/~adric/aic7xxx/slink/5.1.15/
for a set of install rescue and driver disks which should get you over
the hump.

Best,

T. R. Shemanske


> Subject: Install problem - Locks up during boot off of rescue disk.
> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 09:55:38 -0700
> From: Doug Thistlethwaite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "debian-user@lists.debian.org" 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I am trying to install debian onto a Dell Optiplex GXM5133 system with
> 32 Meg of memory and a Adaptec AHA-2940 bios v1.16 PCI scsi controller.
> 
> I am installing off of floppys with the intention finishing the install
> via ftp.
> 
> The rescue disk appears to boot fine and I get to the point where you
> press  to boot for F1..F? for instructions.  When I press enter
> everything looks normal until it gets to the scsi0 lines  The system
> locks up at this point.  The last three lines are:
> 
> (scsi0)  found at PCI 12/0
> (scsi0) Narrow Channel, scsi ID=7, 16/255 SCBs
> (scsi0) Downloading sequencer code...  412 instructions downloaded
> 
> The system locks up at this point.  What should I do?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Doug Thistlethwaite
>


Install problem - Locks up during boot off of rescue disk.

1999-09-14 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Hello,

I am trying to install debian onto a Dell Optiplex GXM5133 system with
32 Meg of memory and a Adaptec AHA-2940 bios v1.16 PCI scsi controller.

I am installing off of floppys with the intention finishing the install
via ftp.

The rescue disk appears to boot fine and I get to the point where you
press  to boot for F1..F? for instructions.  When I press enter
everything looks normal until it gets to the scsi0 lines  The system
locks up at this point.  The last three lines are:


(scsi0)  found at PCI 12/0
(scsi0) Narrow Channel, scsi ID=7, 16/255 SCBs
(scsi0) Downloading sequencer code...  412 instructions downloaded

The system locks up at this point.  What should I do?

Thanks,

Doug Thistlethwaite


newbie² in trouble: installation failshello there, ( please forgive my poor English)I've got an interesting case for you linux wizzkids...I tried to install Debian 2.1 and now i can't boot from hard disk andfloppy, or reinstall the system:I tried to install Debian 2.1 on a 486 with floppies.I managed to bootfrom hard disk, and started doing some linux. Soon i got tired ofdownloading the packages each time i wanted to try something new andordered the cdroms. First wanted to configure the cd-driver for mycreative labs CR-563 B in linux, it never worked out(also in dselect).After a while i convinced myself it would be better to reinstall (whatwould allow me to repartition as well). I still had a rescue and a bootdisk. I repartitioned, and wanted to continue with a cdrom-installation.I couldn't configure my cdrom-driver. I tried a few things, and gave it up. When i wanted to reboot, i found out my hard disk was empty(i partitioned it), and i tried to reboot with my boot disk. Linux stopped booting with an 'unable to open an initial console' message. Then i could only try to reinstall with floppies. When i started the whole installation once again everything seemed allright, till i came at 'install the OS kernel and modules' where you have to insert the rescue disk (it was already inserted). i got 'this is not the rescue floppy...'message. tried it again and again, nothing helped. I threw the floppy away, took another computer, rawrited2 resc1440.bin to it, this one didn't work either, nor did any other floppy.(all formatted 14.4 disks that allowed me to start the installation but stopped at the same point).So these are my questions: how can i get Linux to understand that i'musing the right floppies? how can i configure my CR-563 creative labs in the installation program? what is this message when i boot from a boot-floppy:'unable to open an initial console'?here are some technical details: MB: Sis85c47,BIOS: Award v 4.50G,12MBram, SB16 with CR-563B CDROM (proprietary), linuxver: Debian 2.1, kernel

1999-08-03 Thread Mike Bulmer
>hello there, (please forgive my poor English)

Hi Damiaan
No need, Your English is very good.  I don't know anything about your
cdrom, but I do have allot Of experience with bad disks.  Try A
different disk and redownload resc1440.bin and rawrite it again it may
have gotten corrupted ( considering where it was )

Mike Bulmer


Re: How to create rescue disk in Debian

1999-06-29 Thread ktb
Rian Fahrizal wrote:
> 
> I want to know how to create rescue disk in Debian, since I've a problem
> with my Debian which slow in startup
> 

Maybe I'm wrong but I'll make the assumption you are booting from a
floppy.  If so, set up your system to boot off the hard drive.  You can
use a program such as Lilo to do so.  After that you could compile the
kernel to get even more boot speed.  I hope this helps, if not post back
to the list.
kent


How to create rescue disk in Debian

1999-06-29 Thread Rian Fahrizal
I want to know how to create rescue disk in Debian, since I've a problem
with my Debian which slow in startup


 



Rescue disk changes from 2.0 to 2.1

1999-06-15 Thread Robert Rati
Why does the 2.1 rescue disk not allow you to install to a esdi drive when
the 2.0 rescue disk does?  At boot time, the kernel on the 2.1 rescue
disk sees the drives, so the kernel is basically the same as the 2.0
kernel, but there are no devices for esdi drives (eda, edb, etc) in /dev
once the rescue disk is booted.  Since the kernel is the same, this must
be an oversite right?  It doesn't make sense to be able to install to an
esdi drive in 20 and not 2.1.  Can anyone shead some light on why this has
happened?

Rob

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Re: rescue disk doesn't rescue me

1999-03-03 Thread Santiago Vila Doncel
On Tue, 2 Mar 1999, Werner Reisberger wrote:

> I am using Debian 2.0r4 and trying to boot my brand new PC since 4 days
> with several rescue disks I prepared with dd on my good old Linux PC.
> 
> I even tried to boot with a self prepared root.bin disk but a reader
> of this list told me that I don't need to do this with a fairly new dist
> (yes I have a 1.44 floppy drive).
> 
> The following happens when I insert the rescue disk in my brand new PC
> pressing enter at the boot prompt:
> 
> It recognizes the hardware (including the SCSI controller and the SCSI
> disk) but at the end it issues the following:
> 
> Partition check:
>  sda:Dev 08:00 Sun disklabel: bad magic 
>  unknown partition table
> 
>  # this line is probably caused because my HD is completely untouched

This is probably a bad advice :-), but anyway:

I would try to boot from a MS-DOS floppy and then try to fdisk
the disk from DOS first (only to have a consistent partition table).

> RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0
> VFS: Mounted root (minix filesystem)
> # until now it's looks good but the
> boot process hangs at this stage

This seems a bug in the Linux kernel.

As a workaround you could replace the "linux" file in the boot
floppy by a custom made one, by using the good old Linux PC.


rescue disk doesn't rescue me

1999-03-02 Thread Werner Reisberger
I am using Debian 2.0r4 and trying to boot my brand new PC since 4 days
with several rescue disks I prepared with dd on my good old Linux PC.

I even tried to boot with a self prepared root.bin disk but a reader
of this list told me that I don't need to do this with a fairly new dist
(yes I have a 1.44 floppy drive).

The following happens when I insert the rescue disk in my brand new PC
pressing enter at the boot prompt:

It recognizes the hardware (including the SCSI controller and the SCSI
disk) but at the end it issues the following:

Partition check:
 sda:Dev 08:00 Sun disklabel: bad magic 
 unknown partition table

 # this line is probably caused because my HD is completely untouched

RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0
VFS: Mounted root (minix filesystem)
# until now it's looks good but the
boot process hangs at this stage
 # if I reboot with the same floppy the additional two following lines are
 # displayed:

init: error in loading shared libraries
/lib/libc.so.6: undefined symbol: _nl_postload_ctype


I encountered this behaviour with some other floppies I prepared therefore
I don't think that this is a floppy problem.

Any help appreciated. If somebody could send me a working rescue disk
it would probably save me a lot of time.

Werner 
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Re: Rescue disk woe; floppy is OK !?

1999-02-24 Thread Kent West
At 10:04 AM 2/24/1999 -0600, Brendel, Rob wrote:
>
>> I'm trying to install debian's stable linux distribution from floppies on
>> an old 486 machine.  But it always stalls at the installation of the
>> kernel.  I'm prompted to insert the Rescue disk, but the system doesn't
>> recognize it.  I've tried many different disks from different machines,
>> but they all hang the same way at the same point.  I can boot from all of
>> them fine to start
>> the installation, but they _all_ hang at the kernel installation step.
>> 
>> I create the rescue disk using rawrite2.exe with this command:
>> rawrite2 -f resc1440.bin -d a:
>> 
>> This is the 'Rescue Disk', right?  From DOS I can list the files created,
>> among them:
>> 
>> ldlinux.sys
>> linux
>> root.bin
>> debian.txt
>> syslinux.cfg
>> rdev.sh
>> install.sh
>> 
>> Am I doing something wrong here?  Is this not the Rescue Disk?  If I'm
>> doing this right, any ideas about why I always hang at the same point?

Yes, this is the rescue disk. It sounds like you've tried different
physical floppies, but in case I'm misreading the info above and you're
using the same floppy, try a different one (and then another, and then
another); floppies are notorious for causing problems during a Debian install.

Another option might be to try some of the optional boot images, such as
the Tecra disks. As a general rule, the Tecra images aren't needed on
desktop PCs, but you might give it a try. I'm sure others on this list can
give you more and better suggestions than I have. 

>> Here are some questions for down the road, assuming I can get past this
>> problem:
>> 
>> My DOS partition is still my boot.  How do I switch to Linux from DOS? Do
>> I always have to boot in with the rescue disk?

You can:
 1) set up LILO to give you a multi-boot configuration
 2) if you have a recent DOS (5? 6.x), you can set up a multi-boot
configuration with the [menu]-type commands in config.sys in conjunction
with loadlin
 3) use loadlin to manually start Linux from a DOS prompt
 4) use a Linux boot disk; this is the method I'd start with, and then
"graduate" up to one of the other methods.


>> Any suggestions on installing the packages when the only way I can get
>> files onto this thing is on floppies?  I'll ftp them onto another machine
>> (WinNT); then do I rawrite2.exe each one onto floppies?  Or can I just
>> WinZIP them across several ones, or gz/tar under NT, or what?  I'm not
>> sure how I'll proceed here, so I have all these pre-newbie questions.  My
>> goal is just to use the machine for lyx, so I guess I'll need Xwindow and
>> lyx, and not much more.

Sorry; I can't speak to this. However, if you'll put a modem in it (even a
slow one), you can ftp the rest of the install to it pretty easily (but
slow means overnight for three or four nights probably, whereas fast means
half a night).

>Is there a resource similar to the install.txt for what to do once Linux is
>up and running, that might answer these types of questions?
>
>> Thanks for any help,
>> Rob Brendel


Rescue disk woe; floppy is OK !?

1999-02-24 Thread Brendel, Rob

> I'm trying to install debian's stable linux distribution from floppies on
> an old 486 machine.  But it always stalls at the installation of the
> kernel.  I'm prompted to insert the Rescue disk, but the system doesn't
> recognize it.  I've tried many different disks from different machines,
> but they all hang the same way at the same point.  I can boot from all of
> them fine to start
> the installation, but they _all_ hang at the kernel installation step.
> 
> I create the rescue disk using rawrite2.exe with this command:
> rawrite2 -f resc1440.bin -d a:
> 
> This is the 'Rescue Disk', right?  From DOS I can list the files created,
> among them:
> 
> ldlinux.sys
> linux
> root.bin
> debian.txt
> syslinux.cfg
> rdev.sh
> install.sh
> 
> Am I doing something wrong here?  Is this not the Rescue Disk?  If I'm
> doing this right, any ideas about why I always hang at the same point?
> 
> Here are some questions for down the road, assuming I can get past this
> problem:
> 
> My DOS partition is still my boot.  How do I switch to Linux from DOS? Do
> I always have to boot in with the rescue disk?
> 
> Any suggestions on installing the packages when the only way I can get
> files onto this thing is on floppies?  I'll ftp them onto another machine
> (WinNT); then do I rawrite2.exe each one onto floppies?  Or can I just
> WinZIP them across several ones, or gz/tar under NT, or what?  I'm not
> sure how I'll proceed here, so I have all these pre-newbie questions.  My
> goal is just to use the machine for lyx, so I guess I'll need Xwindow and
> lyx, and not much more.
> 
Is there a resource similar to the install.txt for what to do once Linux is
up and running, that might answer these types of questions?

> Thanks for any help,
> Rob Brendel


Re: error with rescue disk

1999-02-03 Thread M.C. Vernon
On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, Aaron Walker wrote:

> hello,
> 
> When I try to boot the rescue disk (to install debian 2.0),
> I get the following errors.
> Anyone know what the problem is?

Almost certainly the rescue disk is shot. Download a fresh copy, and write
it to a new floppy.

Matthew

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