Re: ncurses3.4
Þann 18-Nov-97 skrifar Scott Ellis: Maybe if you'd tell us what is unstable for you it could be fixed. I've only experienced neglegable problems using hamm. Ok, here is my system (Just for an overview, the latest in hamm). kernel2.0.30 xbase 3.3.1 xlib6g3.3.1 xaw3dg1.3-6 ncurses3.41.9.9g libc 5.4.33 libc 2.0.5c xpm xpm4g jpeg libjpegg6a gcc 2.7.2.3 libg++272 2.7.2.8 libpaperg 1.0.3 ghostview 1.5-16 gs3.33-6 xfig 3.2.0 netbase 3.00 netstd3.00 ppp 2.3.1 Now, I can use pppd to manually put up my network... but diald (which I normally use) doesn't work, it will fail with 'sl0: transmit timeout, bad line quality?'... And now lets see, here is ghostview... (gdb) run Starting program: /usr/bin/X11/ghostview Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x804df70 in _start () (gdb) bt #0 0x804df70 in _start () #1 0x80c2588 in ?? () #2 0x804c9fe in _start () (gdb) And then there is xfig... (gdb) run Starting program: /usr/bin/X11/xfig xfig: this input-method don't support OffTheSpot input style xfig: using ROOT input style instead. (no debugging symbols found)... Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x4020d8a4 in free () (gdb) bt #0 0x4020d8a4 in free () #1 0x4020d841 in free () #2 0x400c49ad in XtFree () #3 0x4006a543 in _XawMultiSaveAsFile () #4 0x40069f7d in XawListShowCurrent () #5 0x400e4837 in XtSetSensitive () #6 0x400e4daf in XtSetValues () #7 0x40079e5e in _XawTextExecuteUpdate () #8 0x400e4837 in XtSetSensitive () #9 0x400e47f8 in XtSetSensitive () #10 0x400e4daf in XtSetValues () #11 0x80b31c5 in _start () #12 0x80adb92 in _start () #13 0x809a85d in _start () #14 0x80a9d52 in _start () #15 0x80765bc in _start () (gdb) These two programs are well known and function fully on normal Unix systems, that is also why I list them here. The problem, at least in the case of xfig, is a clash between libc5 and libc6. A library will establish a pointer through libc5, and then X will try to free it through libc6... or in other cases this is vice versa. This case is interresting, because the backtrace shows that this is the fault of the Xaw3d... this is because Xaw3d library is listed before /usr/X11R6/lib in ld.so.conf, removing the reference to Xaw3d will allow xfig to function normally... similar SIGSEGV are called in many programs, even that I compile here, and usually the fault is found inside malloc() or free()... All these problems have to do with collition between libraries, either at the maintainers' or at the users end. Orn Einar Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] voice+fax; +46 035 217194 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ncurses3.4
Þann 18-Nov-97 skrifar Scott Ellis: The problem is that linking a program with both libc6 and librarys linked with libc5 will produce problems. Programs that are linked this way should have bugs filed against them if they haven't been already. Yes you need to purge and reconstruct your development environment, but it isn't impossible or even difficult to live with both c librarys. That is most likely true... but as a user, who want's to have a libc6 system. Wouldn't it me more normal, to have the packages all developed and linked to libc6 libraries, and provide libc5-compat libraries as an extra (in hamm, that is), just to be able to run old programs? The blended environment that has been there for a while, is a little problematic IMHO. Orn Einar Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] voice+fax; +46 035 217194 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ncurses3.4
On Wed, 19 Nov 1997, Orn E. Hansen wrote: Now, I can use pppd to manually put up my network... but diald (which I normally use) doesn't work, it will fail with 'sl0: transmit timeout, bad line quality?'... Okay, to be fair I never use diald, so I don't know what could be wrong here. And now lets see, here is ghostview... (gdb) run Starting program: /usr/bin/X11/ghostview Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x804df70 in _start () (gdb) bt #0 0x804df70 in _start () #1 0x80c2588 in ?? () #2 0x804c9fe in _start () (gdb) And then there is xfig... (gdb) run Starting program: /usr/bin/X11/xfig xfig: this input-method don't support OffTheSpot input style xfig: using ROOT input style instead. (no debugging symbols found)... Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x4020d8a4 in free () (gdb) bt #0 0x4020d8a4 in free () #1 0x4020d841 in free () #2 0x400c49ad in XtFree () #3 0x4006a543 in _XawMultiSaveAsFile () #4 0x40069f7d in XawListShowCurrent () #5 0x400e4837 in XtSetSensitive () #6 0x400e4daf in XtSetValues () #7 0x40079e5e in _XawTextExecuteUpdate () #8 0x400e4837 in XtSetSensitive () #9 0x400e47f8 in XtSetSensitive () #10 0x400e4daf in XtSetValues () #11 0x80b31c5 in _start () #12 0x80adb92 in _start () #13 0x809a85d in _start () #14 0x80a9d52 in _start () #15 0x80765bc in _start () (gdb) These two programs are well known and function fully on normal Unix systems, that is also why I list them here. The problem, at least in the case of xfig, is a clash between libc5 and libc6. A library will establish a pointer through libc5, and then X will try to free it through libc6... or in other cases this is vice versa. This case is interresting, because the backtrace shows that this is the fault of the Xaw3d... this is because Xaw3d library is listed before /usr/X11R6/lib in ld.so.conf, removing the reference to Xaw3d will allow xfig to function normally... similar SIGSEGV are called in many programs, even that I compile here, and usually the fault is found inside malloc() or free()... See, you've pointed out the problem and even there is a solution. Remove xaw3d or update it to the version that is compiled correctly. Its a bug with the old xaw3d, the new version was uploaded recently (IIRC). All these problems have to do with collition between libraries, either at the maintainers' or at the users end. Yep, it's a bug in xaw3d. Not exactly making your system unusable, since it is easilly fixed. -- Scott K. Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gate.net/~storm/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ncurses3.4
On Wed, 19 Nov 1997, Orn E. Hansen wrote: Þann 18-Nov-97 skrifar Scott Ellis: The problem is that linking a program with both libc6 and librarys linked with libc5 will produce problems. Programs that are linked this way should have bugs filed against them if they haven't been already. Yes you need to purge and reconstruct your development environment, but it isn't impossible or even difficult to live with both c librarys. That is most likely true... but as a user, who want's to have a libc6 system. Wouldn't it me more normal, to have the packages all developed and linked to libc6 libraries, and provide libc5-compat libraries as an extra (in hamm, that is), just to be able to run old programs? The blended environment that has been there for a while, is a little problematic IMHO. That's exactly what we're working on doing. The problem is that we aren't finished with it quite yet, it is time consuming to recompile over 1000 different packages. Hamm will be as close to fully libc6 if we can make it, but we aren't there yet. -- Scott K. Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gate.net/~storm/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ncurses3.4
On Wed, 19 Nov 1997 13:34:52 EST Scott Ellis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Wed, 19 Nov 1997, Orn E. Hansen wrote: Now, I can use pppd to manually put up my network... but diald (which I normally use) doesn't work, it will fail with 'sl0: transmit timeout, bad line quality?'... Okay, to be fair I never use diald, so I don't know what could be wrong here. Change the network: line of /etc/nsswitch.conf from files dns to files. That should make it. Phil. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ncurses3.4
Þann 19-Nov-97 skrifar Scott Ellis: Yep, it's a bug in xaw3d. Not exactly making your system unusable, since it is easilly fixed. Nor was I saying that it was unusable... I was saying, that if one intends to upgrade to a libc6 system, one needs to upgrade the entire base system. Purgeing the old libc5 stuff... if you don't, you may very well end up in a situation where your system becomes unusable... and if it does, that *that* was the problem... conflict between the two libraries. Orn Einar Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] voice+fax; +46 035 217194 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ncurses3.4
Þann 19-Nov-97 skrifar Philippe Troin: Change the network: line of /etc/nsswitch.conf from files dns to files. That should make it. Now this is what I call a useful pointer! Thanks!, that did the trick... thanks a million! Orn Einar Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] voice+fax; +46 035 217194 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ncurses3.4
Hi Galen, Here is what 'dpkg -l' gives me as an answer: ii libc5 5.4.33-7 The Linux C library version 5 (run-time ii libc6 2.0.5c-0.1 The GNU C library version 2 (run-time ii ldso1.9.2-3The Linux dynamic linker, library and utilit On Mon, 17 Nov 1997, Galen Hazelwood wrote: Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 14:26:07 -0700 From: Galen Hazelwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Daniel Doro Ferrante [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: ncurses3.4 The only thing that the ncurses3.4 postinst script does is run ldconfig. If your system is so messed up that ldconfig always seg faults, then god help you, because I can't. :) What versions of ld.so, libc5, and libc6 do you have installed? --Galen After that email, I tried to upgrade 'tetex-bin' but I also got the same message: seg fault in the pre-inst AND pos-inst scripts !!! I can't figure out what is happening. I tried to use libc6 and libc5 in different ways in order to find out if it were the problem - no problem; besides everything else is working fine - so I think that libc's are not the problem (but I am not sure yet). Daniel. __ Daniel Doro Ferranteemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] System Manager http://www.cecm.usp.br/~danieldf CECM - Curso de Ciencias Moleculares - USP Course of Molecular Sciences - University of Sao Paulo -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ncurses3.4
Þann 18-Nov-97 skrifar Daniel Doro Ferrante: After that email, I tried to upgrade 'tetex-bin' but I also got the same message: seg fault in the pre-inst AND pos-inst scripts !!! I can't figure out what is happening. I tried to use libc6 and libc5 in different ways in order to find out if it were the problem - no problem; besides everything else is working fine - so I think that libc's are not the problem (but I am not sure yet). Downgrade libc6 to 2.0.4-1... libc6 2.0.5c is close to unusable yet. and if you intend to use libc6 for future use and development, then purge libc5 and all its remnants, as there *is* and will remain a conflict between the two. Orn Einar Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] voice+fax; +46 035 217194 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ncurses3.4
On Tue, 18 Nov 1997, Orn E. Hansen wrote: and if you intend to use libc6 for future use and development, then purge libc5 and all its remnants, as there *is* and will remain a conflict between the two. NO! ABSOLUTLY POSITIVLY DO *NOT* PURGE LIBC5! YOU WILL TRASH YOUR SYSTEM BEYOND ALL HOPE OF REPAIR! What you do need to do if you're upgrading to a full hamm (unstable) system is to use dpkg to purge the existing '-dev' packages on your system. The existing librarys only need updated. -- Scott K. Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gate.net/~storm/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ncurses3.4
Þann 18-Nov-97 skrifar Scott Ellis: On Tue, 18 Nov 1997, Orn E. Hansen wrote: NO! ABSOLUTLY POSITIVLY DO *NOT* PURGE LIBC5! YOU WILL TRASH YOUR SYSTEM BEYOND ALL HOPE OF REPAIR! What you do need to do if you're upgrading to a full hamm (unstable) system is to use dpkg to purge the existing '-dev' packages on your system. The existing librarys only need updated. You can purge all libc5 programs, takes a trick or two though... and it's the ONLY way to get a stable libc6 system. Orn Einar Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] voice+fax; +46 035 217194 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ncurses3.4
On Tue, 18 Nov 1997, Orn E. Hansen wrote: Þann 18-Nov-97 skrifar Scott Ellis: On Tue, 18 Nov 1997, Orn E. Hansen wrote: NO! ABSOLUTLY POSITIVLY DO *NOT* PURGE LIBC5! YOU WILL TRASH YOUR SYSTEM BEYOND ALL HOPE OF REPAIR! What you do need to do if you're upgrading to a full hamm (unstable) system is to use dpkg to purge the existing '-dev' packages on your system. The existing librarys only need updated. You can purge all libc5 programs, takes a trick or two though... and it's the ONLY way to get a stable libc6 system. I beg to differ here. My machine runs sync'd to hamm, but I still use several programs that are only libc5 (including netscape). Everything works fine, although with Netscrape running my memory useage is a bit on the cramped side. -- Scott K. Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gate.net/~storm/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ncurses3.4
Orn E. Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You can purge all libc5 programs, takes a trick or two though... and it's the ONLY way to get a stable libc6 system. Absolute rubbish. I've been running two systems and have access to a third which have been tracking hamm since it became hamm, all three have always had libc5 and all three are stable. -- James -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ncurses3.4
Þann 18-Nov-97 skrifar James Troup: Orn E. Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You can purge all libc5 programs, takes a trick or two though... and it's the ONLY way to get a stable libc6 system. I've been tracking hamm on several systems, ever since libc6 came out... and there is NOTHING stable about it(period) Orn Einar Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] voice+fax; +46 035 217194 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ncurses3.4
Þann 18-Nov-97 skrifar Scott Ellis: I beg to differ here. My machine runs sync'd to hamm, but I still use several programs that are only libc5 (including netscape). Everything works fine, although with Netscrape running my memory useage is a bit on the cramped side. The reason I say, that you need to purge them (especially if you are doing development), is because of... 0x401c6230 in malloc () (gdb) bt #0 0x401c6230 in malloc () #1 0x401c6145 in malloc () #2 0x401c12cc in fopen () #3 0x80ab65b in getline () #4 0x80abb5c in getline () #5 0x80ada67 in getline () #6 0x80afcb9 in getline () #7 0x8051b25 in _start () #8 0x805330d in _start () #9 0x40038bfc in fl_object_qread () #10 0x40046ef5 in fl_do_forms () #11 0x80570fd in _start () Programs like xfig, and ghostview will produce similar results... SIGSEGV in malloc() or free(). The reason here, appears to be that libc5 and libc6 use two different malloc routines and algorithms... and CAN'T be used side by side. Orn Einar Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] voice+fax; +46 035 217194 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ncurses3.4
On Tue, 18 Nov 1997, Orn E. Hansen wrote: Þann 18-Nov-97 skrifar James Troup: Orn E. Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You can purge all libc5 programs, takes a trick or two though... and it's the ONLY way to get a stable libc6 system. I've been tracking hamm on several systems, ever since libc6 came out... and there is NOTHING stable about it(period) Maybe if you'd tell us what is unstable for you it could be fixed. I've only experienced neglegable problems using hamm. -- Scott K. Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gate.net/~storm/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ncurses3.4
On Tue, 18 Nov 1997, Orn E. Hansen wrote: The reason I say, that you need to purge them (especially if you are doing development), is because of... 0x401c6230 in malloc () (gdb) bt #0 0x401c6230 in malloc () #1 0x401c6145 in malloc () #2 0x401c12cc in fopen () #3 0x80ab65b in getline () #4 0x80abb5c in getline () #5 0x80ada67 in getline () #6 0x80afcb9 in getline () #7 0x8051b25 in _start () #8 0x805330d in _start () #9 0x40038bfc in fl_object_qread () #10 0x40046ef5 in fl_do_forms () #11 0x80570fd in _start () Programs like xfig, and ghostview will produce similar results... SIGSEGV in malloc() or free(). The reason here, appears to be that libc5 and libc6 use two different malloc routines and algorithms... and CAN'T be used side by side. The problem is that linking a program with both libc6 and librarys linked with libc5 will produce problems. Programs that are linked this way should have bugs filed against them if they haven't been already. Yes you need to purge and reconstruct your development environment, but it isn't impossible or even difficult to live with both c librarys. -- Scott K. Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gate.net/~storm/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
ncurses3.4
Hi All ! I have just tried to install ncurses3.4 (from unstable - hamm/base) and when it gets to the post-installation script it gives me a segmentation fault. Any ideas? Thanks, Daniel. __ Daniel Doro Ferranteemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] System Manager http://www.cecm.usp.br/~danieldf CECM - Curso de Ciencias Moleculares - USP Course of Molecular Sciences - University of Sao Paulo -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ncurses3.4
The only thing that the ncurses3.4 postinst script does is run ldconfig. If your system is so messed up that ldconfig always seg faults, then god help you, because I can't. :) What versions of ld.so, libc5, and libc6 do you have installed? --Galen -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
fixing a machine without ncurses3.4
I wanted the Gimp so I did some updating from unstable. I missed libncurses3.4 though. My machine was left in an crippled state (couldn't ftp out) so I thought I'd boot into windoze to get the .deb. Unfortunately when booting back into Linux, even in single user mode, I get 'sh: can't load libncurses.so.3.4' and can't log in. Tried a known good rescue disk and that gives me the same problem. Anyone got any ideas how to fix this? - Sue -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: fixing a machine without ncurses3.4
On Sun, 10 Aug 1997, Sue Campbell wrote: I wanted the Gimp so I did some updating from unstable. I missed libncurses3.4 though. My machine was left in an crippled state (couldn't ftp out) so I thought I'd boot into windoze to get the .deb. Unfortunately when booting back into Linux, even in single user mode, I get 'sh: can't load libncurses.so.3.4' and can't log in. Tried a known good rescue disk and that gives me the same problem. The rescue disk should work. Make sure your's isn't trying to boot from or mount any partitions from your hard disk. If it does, you should recreate the rescue disk from the Debian installation disk set. Once the rescue disk is working, mount the hard disk and simple copy libncurses to /lib. -- Jean Pierre -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
ncurses3.4 deb file
I have installed the unstable version in hamm and now have several packages that do not configure properly because ncurses3.4 is not available. The most important such package for me is gdb. Hamish Moffatt wrote to me earlier that ncurses3.4 was available in the Incoming section on master.debian.org but I can't get an ftp connection to it. I have tried for 3 days to get an anonymous ftp connection but always get rejected because of the limit on anonymous ftp logins. Can anyone suggest an alternative location? I would really like to be able to use gdb. Putting if (debug 0) printf(...); statements in code is not nearly as much fun as it used to be. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ncurses3.4 deb file
Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler kindly pointed out to me that ncurses3.4 is now in ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/hamm/hamm/binary-i386/base so I have solved that problem. Many of you know what the next question will be. Where do I find libreadlineg2? I don't see it in the ls-lR.gz file from ftp.debian.org. Douglas Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have installed the unstable version in hamm and now have several packages that do not configure properly because ncurses3.4 is not available. The most important such package for me is gdb. Can anyone suggest an alternative location? I would really like to be able to use gdb. Putting if (debug 0) printf(...); statements in code is not nearly as much fun as it used to be. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
ncurses3.4 not found
the ncurses3.4 package is not available in the hamm version of Debian. Where can I get this package? -Paul -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ncurses3.4 not found
the ncurses3.4 package is not available in the hamm version of Debian. Where can I get this package? In master's incoming, or it's mirror: ftp://cfni.com/pub/linux/debian/Incoming -Paul -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- joost witteveen, [EMAIL PROTECTED] #!/usr/bin/perl -sp0777iX+d*lMLa^*lN%0]dsXx++lMlN/dsM0j]dsj $/=unpack('H*',$_);$_=`echo 16dio\U$kSK$/SM$n\EsN0p[lN*1 lK[d2%Sa2/d0$^Ixp|dc`;s/\W//g;$_=pack('H*',/((..)*)$/) #what's this? see http://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ncurses3.4 not found
On Wed, 16 Jul 1997, Paul Miller wrote: the ncurses3.4 package is not available in the hamm version of Debian. Where can I get this package? It's still in Incoming on master. Shaya -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ncurses3.4
Carey Evans wrote: Kevin M. Bealer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (clip) So you _do_ need the /lib/libreadline.so.2 link. bc in unstable is a libc6 program, so it shouldn't be concerned with what is in the libc5-compat directories. % dpkg -S libreadline.so.2 libreadline2: /lib/libc5-compat/libreadline.so.2 libreadlineg2: /lib/libreadline.so.2.1 libreadline2: /lib/libc5-compat/libreadline.so.2.0 libreadline2: /lib/libc5-compat/libreadline.so.2.1 libreadlineg2: /lib/libreadline.so.2 Is libreadlineg2 still installed properly after your problems with it? -- Carey Evans * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Our mail program accidentally deleted our remove list. - Real quote from UCE Thanks for the help, all. bc works now. I don't understand how it determined what libs it needed, i.e. why it refuses to link with same-named libs in the same place, or where any of that is configured. However, the appropriate libs now seem to be installed and work ok. It would be nice if packages didn't leave Incoming until the packages they depend on leave incoming, but I imagine the people who do that stuff have enough complexity without worrying about that. [ offtopic: ] My new computer parts are in the mail today. Cyrix 200+ (6x86L), Gigabyte MB, full tower case, 32 MB EDO, and a Matrox Mystique w/ 4 MB SDRAM for $535. [EMAIL PROTECTED]/GNU--1.3---Linux--2.0.30--- Programming is always harder than doing the same task manually. It's hard because you must completely understand the problem, take everything into consideration, and protect against every possible flaw. Then you never have to do it manually again. The great driving force behind programming is the fervent devotion to laziness: you wage a war to save typing later. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ncurses3.4
On Fri, 4 Jul 1997, Peter Mutsaers wrote: I see a lot of packages appearing in unstable that depend on ncurses3.4. But no packages providing it is available (only ncurses3.0). Can anyone tell me where I can get ncurses3.4? It still appears to be in Incoming on master.debian.org, last I checked. Developers, like me, are downloading it from there, because we need it if we want our apps to be libc6. Shaya -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ncurses3.4
Carey Evans wrote: Kevin M. Bealer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [snip] Also, installing this packages causes dselect to get really excited about dependencies, since everything wants the old libreadline, and the new one doesn't want to coexist. What is the solution to this sort of thing? For now, I have left the new one installed, deselected it, and stopped upgrading for a bit, but bc doesn't run yet. Get the new, old libreadline2 from the same place as libreadlineg2: (clip) Thanks, I don't know why I didn't see that before. However there is still a problem : $ bc bc: error in loading shared libraries libreadline.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory $ ldd -v `which bc` ldd: version 1.9.2 libreadline.so.2 = not found libncurses.so.3.4 = /lib/libncurses.so.3.4 (0x4000f000) libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40054000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000) $ ls -la /lib/libc5-compat total 132 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 1024 Jul 6 01:36 . drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 3072 Jul 6 01:36 .. lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 Jul 6 01:36 libreadline.so.2 - libreadline.so.2.1 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 Jul 6 01:36 libreadline.so.2.0 - libreadline.so.2.1 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 129716 Jun 23 17:44 libreadline.so.2.1 I have, several times, run ldconfig -v as root. The directories /usr/lib/libc5-compat /lib/libc5-compat are both in /etc/ld.so.conf So why is it doing this? If I do an $ strace -f ldd -v `which bc` It doesn't seem to try to open /usr/lib/libc5-compat Also note that there were spurious links to libhistory.so and libreadline.so in the regular directories, i.e. /usr/lib and /lib, presumably from the last version. Removing these did not help. The /etc/ld.so.cache had a modification date from the last time I run ldconfig -v. [EMAIL PROTECTED]/GNU--1.3---Linux--2.0.30--- ACHTUNG! Das machine is nicht fur gefingerpoken und mittengrabben. Ist easyschnappen der springenwerk, blowenfusen und corkenpoppen mitspitzensparken. Ist nicht fur gewerken by das dummkopfen. Dasrubbernecken sightseeren keepen hands in das pockets. Relaxen undvatch das blinkenlights!!! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ncurses3.4
Kevin M. Bealer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [snip] $ bc bc: error in loading shared libraries libreadline.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory $ ldd -v `which bc` ldd: version 1.9.2 libreadline.so.2 = not found libncurses.so.3.4 = /lib/libncurses.so.3.4 (0x4000f000) libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40054000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000) [snip] Also note that there were spurious links to libhistory.so and libreadline.so in the regular directories, i.e. /usr/lib and /lib, presumably from the last version. Removing these did not help. % ldd -v =bc ldd: version 1.9.2 libreadline.so.2 = /lib/libreadline.so.2 (0x4000f000) libncurses.so.3.4 = /lib/libncurses.so.3.4 (0x4003) libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40075000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000) So you _do_ need the /lib/libreadline.so.2 link. bc in unstable is a libc6 program, so it shouldn't be concerned with what is in the libc5-compat directories. % dpkg -S libreadline.so.2 libreadline2: /lib/libc5-compat/libreadline.so.2 libreadlineg2: /lib/libreadline.so.2.1 libreadline2: /lib/libc5-compat/libreadline.so.2.0 libreadline2: /lib/libc5-compat/libreadline.so.2.1 libreadlineg2: /lib/libreadline.so.2 Is libreadlineg2 still installed properly after your problems with it? -- Carey Evans * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Our mail program accidentally deleted our remove list. - Real quote from UCE -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
ncurses3.4
I see a lot of packages appearing in unstable that depend on ncurses3.4. But no packages providing it is available (only ncurses3.0). Can anyone tell me where I can get ncurses3.4? -- /\_/\ ( o.o ) Peter Mutsaers | Abcoude (Utrecht), | Trust is a good quality ) ^ ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] | the Netherlands| for other people to have -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ncurses3.4
Peter Mutsaers wrote: I see a lot of packages appearing in unstable that depend on ncurses3.4. But no packages providing it is available (only ncurses3.0). Can anyone tell me where I can get ncurses3.4? -- /\_/\ ( o.o ) Peter Mutsaers | Abcoude (Utrecht), | Trust is a good quality ) ^ ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] | the Netherlands| for other people to have -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . You can get it from ftp.i-connect.com, in Incoming, and info, et al will run again. On a similar note, the package libreadlineg2 is wanted by both bc and dc, and maybe others. I have installed the package (from i-connect) but the programs still seg-fault. Also, installing this packages causes dselect to get really excited about dependencies, since everything wants the old libreadline, and the new one doesn't want to coexist. What is the solution to this sort of thing? For now, I have left the new one installed, deselected it, and stopped upgrading for a bit, but bc doesn't run yet. (so I use python to do arithmetic.) [EMAIL PROTECTED]/GNU--1.3---Linux--2.0.30--- I see the eigenvalue in thine eye, I hear the tender tensor in thy sigh. Bernoulli would have been content to die Had he but known such _ a-squared cos 2(phi)! -- Stanislaw Lem, Cyberiad -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ncurses3.4
Kevin M. Bealer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [snip] Also, installing this packages causes dselect to get really excited about dependencies, since everything wants the old libreadline, and the new one doesn't want to coexist. What is the solution to this sort of thing? For now, I have left the new one installed, deselected it, and stopped upgrading for a bit, but bc doesn't run yet. Get the new, old libreadline2 from the same place as libreadlineg2: C-u M-! dpkg -l 'libreadline*' Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ NameVersionDescription +++-===-==- un libreadline none (no description available) un libreadline-dev none (no description available) ii libreadline22.1-2.1GNU readline and history libraries, run-time pn libreadline2-de none (no description available) ii libreadlineg2 2.1-2.1GNU readline and history libraries, run-time ii libreadlineg2-d 2.1-2.1GNU readline and history libraries, developm (so I use python to do arithmetic.) :-) I'd be using Perl, or maybe the XEmacs *scratch* buffer. One of these days I'll work out how to use metafont for this. -- Carey Evans * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Our mail program accidentally deleted our remove list. - Real quote from UCE -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ncurses3.4
On Sat, 5 Jul 1997, Kevin M. Bealer wrote: You can get it from ftp.i-connect.com, in Incoming, and info, et al will run again. That's ftp.i-connect.net I believe. -douglas -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ncurses3.4
I have a system with the 'hamm' hierarchy packages installed. Several of the packages, including important ones like 'gdb' depend on 'ncurses3.4' but I cannot find this anywhere. I wonder why 'ncurses3.4' is not included in 'hamm'. Any pointers or workarounds anyone? ncurses3.4 is in incoming, not in unstable yet (Guy's on vacation, that's why). I've put the .deb files in ftp://rulcmc.leidenuniv.nl/debian/incoming (for the time being, it's a moderately slow link). Warning: this is for the debian-devel type people only, who are following unstable. If you just have stable (or bo), don't bother going there! -- joost witteveen, [EMAIL PROTECTED] #!/usr/bin/perl -sp0777iX+d*lMLa^*lN%0]dsXx++lMlN/dsM0j]dsj $/=unpack('H*',$_);$_=`echo 16dio\U$kSK$/SM$n\EsN0p[lN*1 lK[d2%Sa2/d0$^Ixp|dc`;s/\W//g;$_=pack('H*',/((..)*)$/) #what's this? see http://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
ncurses3.4
I have a system with the 'hamm' hierarchy packages installed. Several of the packages, including important ones like 'gdb' depend on 'ncurses3.4' but I cannot find this anywhere. I wonder why 'ncurses3.4' is not included in 'hamm'. Any pointers or workarounds anyone? Roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .