potato install and module 3c59x.c

2002-01-08 Thread Marcelo Chiapparini
Hello to all!

I am installing potato 2.2r2 from the distribution CDs in a new machine which 
has the 3c905c NIC. After selected the 3c59cx module and complete a minimal 
installation, I can't put the NIC to work. I searched in the archives and I 
found that this was already a problem with other people in the past. All of 
them compiled the last version of the module and apparently this fixed the 
problem. I have the las version of the module now, the 3c59x.c. The problem is 
that I have no idea what to do in order to install this module together with 
potato. Perhaps this should enter as a third part driver during the 
installation, but I don't know how. Any help regarding this problem will be 
very appreciated.

Thanks ins advance,

Marcelo
 
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Re: potato install and module 3c59x.c

2002-01-08 Thread Marcelo Chiapparini
Hello! its me again!

On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 08:50:41AM -0200, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
 Hello to all!
 
 I am installing potato 2.2r2 from the distribution CDs in a new machine which 
 has the 3c905c NIC. After selected the 3c59cx module and complete a minimal 
 installation, I can't put the NIC to work. I searched in the archives and I 
 found that this was already a problem with other people in the past. All of 
 them compiled the last version of the module and apparently this fixed the 
 problem. I have the las version of the module now, the 3c59x.c. The problem 
 is 
 that I have no idea what to do in order to install this module together with 
 potato. Perhaps this should enter as a third part driver during the 
 installation, but I don't know how. Any help regarding this problem will be 
 very appreciated.
 
 Thanks ins advance,
 
 Marcelo

I was thinking that it may be a matter of compiling the 3c59x.c in order to 
transform it into the 3c59x.o and copy this module into the 
/lib/modules/2.2.18pre21/net directory in order to replace the old module. 
Is this correct? if so, how can I compile the module?
Thanks again for the help!

Regards,
Marcelo


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Re: potato install and module 3c59x.c

2002-01-08 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 08:50:41AM -0200, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
 Hello to all!
 
 I am installing potato 2.2r2 from the distribution CDs in a new machine which 
 has the 3c905c NIC. After selected the 3c59cx module and complete a minimal 
 installation, I can't put the NIC to work. I searched in the archives and I 
 found that this was already a problem with other people in the past. All of 
 them compiled the last version of the module and apparently this fixed the 
 problem. I have the las version of the module now, the 3c59x.c. The problem 
 is 
 that I have no idea what to do in order to install this module together with 
 potato. Perhaps this should enter as a third part driver during the 
 installation, but I don't know how. Any help regarding this problem will be 
 very appreciated.

The 3x905c is not supported by the 3c59x module that ships with 2.2r2
- I believe that version of potato shipped with kernel
2.2.18presomething.  IIRC the 3c905c was supported by the 3c59x module
in kernel 2.2.19.

So, your options are

1) grab 2.2.19 kernel sources (no, they won't be on the cd :) and
build a custom kernel including the 3c59x module.

2) get the 3c59x module from http://www.scyld.com/network/vortex.html,
install the 2.2.18pre kernel source (should be on the cd), install
kernel-package, and compile a kernel.

If you do step 2, you should followup with step 1 once you have
network access.  The 2.2.18pre kernel that shipped with 2.2r2 sucks.

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Missing GLIBC2.2 on potato install

2002-01-08 Thread Dougie Nisbet
I've installed potato a few times on this particular PC, and for various 
reasons, I wanted to do a clean re-install. I repartitioned and off we went. 
Everything went smoothly and I soon had a working system. 

I wanted to access reiser filesystems (version 2) created by another linux 
distro, so I added the Adrian Bunk lines to my /etc/apt/sources.list, and 
downloaded the kernel packages and 2.4.14 sources. I recompiled the kernel 
with reiser support, rebooted, and all was well. 

So far so good. I've done this process a few times with no problems.

Then I decided to try postfix for a change, and did an apt-get install 
postfix, and allowed it to do its stuff. I read the postfix config file, 
hacked it with a bit of trial and error, and managed to get things working. I 
was pleasantly surprised.

I made a few other hacks around the system, all of which I've done on 
previous occasions.  I restored my woody partition which I'd zapped because 
of the repartiotioning, modified my lilo, and rebooted to check that I could 
still get into woody. Yes. Fine.

Rebooted to get back to potato - and now big problems.

Most things I try say that the GLIBC 2.2 package library or whatever is not 
installed. I try various permitations of apt-cache search and apt-get install 
and reinstall and fix to try get things working again, but most things, such 
as perl, need glibc2.2. I don't know where things went wrong, but presumably 
I messed up somewhere, and don't know where I did it.

Question 1: Is the system salvagable? I suspect not. Is it possible to 
install the GLIBC_2.2 (I can't recall the exact error) - or is it needed by 
everything, including the install routines?

Question 2: Assuming I'm looking at a clean rebuild, is there anything I can 
salvage from the current install that will save me another long download. I'm 
thinking mostly of the 2.2.14 Bunk kernel and docs. They took a long time to 
download, and if I can copy them out of the way until I've reinstalled, then 
copy them back, that would save me a lot of time. I can see them in 
/var/cache/apt/archives - is it just a question of backing that directory up 
then restoring, or is there more involved?

Thanks,

Dougie



Re: Missing GLIBC2.2 on potato install

2002-01-08 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 11:03:01PM +, Dougie Nisbet wrote:
 
 Most things I try say that the GLIBC 2.2 package library or whatever is not 
 installed. I try various permitations of apt-cache search and apt-get install 
 and reinstall and fix to try get things working again, but most things, such 
 as perl, need glibc2.2. I don't know where things went wrong, but presumably 
 I messed up somewhere, and don't know where I did it.

Nothing in potato should need glibc 2.2.  Potato uses glibc 2.1.  How
did you manage to get woody/sid packages installed on your potato
system?

 Question 1: Is the system salvagable? I suspect not. Is it possible to 
 install the GLIBC_2.2 (I can't recall the exact error) - or is it needed by 
 everything, including the install routines?

They're always salvagable, it's just not always worth the effort.  In
this case, it should be pretty easy to salvage since you've got another
working OS on the system.  Boot to your other OS and copy glibc 2.2 over
to the potato system.

 Question 2: Assuming I'm looking at a clean rebuild, is there anything I can 
 salvage from the current install that will save me another long download. I'm 

Assuming you've got /home on a separate partition, copy everything there
while you re-install.  The .debs from /var/cache/apt/archives is fine to
copy over.  Apt on the new system will be smart enough to see them and
not download them again.  But of course, you don't necessarily have to
re-install.

noah

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Please help! New Potato install

2001-11-07 Thread Jason Machacek
I just finished installing Potato v. 2.2r3.  My motherboard is the Intel
815EEA, and X recognizes neither the onboard video nor my ATI Radeon 64MB
DDR AGP.  Am I correct in saying that I have to upgrade to Woody in order to
take advantage of my video card, or can I simply install xFree86 4.1/4.2?
Also, should I upgrade my kernel to 2.4, or should that even matter?
(Please bear with me; I'm from the Windows world, where the newest is the
least unreliable)

Also, I understand that my modem(Creative Modem Blaster 56K PCI model
DI5630) doesn't function under Linux because it's just another Winmodem.
Has anyone heard of any ways to get this device to function under Linux?  If
not, that's alright because I've got a 33.6 external in the mail.

Thanks for your help!

Jason Machacek



Re: Please help! New Potato install

2001-11-07 Thread ben
check your logs, everything you find in the directory /var/log, for
system info on what might be wrong. also, check your bios settings
regarding onboard or AGP video. apropos the modem, if it's truly a
winmodem, dump it. it's not your fault. it has to do with proprietary
issues being held back from developers. the main thing is, don't give
up. the thing to remember is that if it's a computer, it will eventually
run some version of linux. the psychological advantage of escaping bill
is worth all the frustration. post your logs, particularly dmesg and any
X logs, to make it easier for others to understand the problem.


Jason Machacek wrote:
 
 I just finished installing Potato v. 2.2r3.  My motherboard is the Intel
 815EEA, and X recognizes neither the onboard video nor my ATI Radeon 64MB
 DDR AGP.  Am I correct in saying that I have to upgrade to Woody in order to
 take advantage of my video card, or can I simply install xFree86 4.1/4.2?
 Also, should I upgrade my kernel to 2.4, or should that even matter?
 (Please bear with me; I'm from the Windows world, where the newest is the
 least unreliable)
 
 Also, I understand that my modem(Creative Modem Blaster 56K PCI model
 DI5630) doesn't function under Linux because it's just another Winmodem.
 Has anyone heard of any ways to get this device to function under Linux?  If
 not, that's alright because I've got a 33.6 external in the mail.
 
 Thanks for your help!
 
 Jason Machacek
 
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Re: Please help! New Potato install

2001-11-07 Thread Frank Zimmermann

I just finished installing Potato v. 2.2r3.  My motherboard is the Intel
815EEA, and X recognizes neither the onboard video nor my ATI Radeon 64MB
DDR AGP.  Am I correct in saying that I have to upgrade to Woody in order to
take advantage of my video card, or can I simply install xFree86 4.1/4.2?


Jason,
you should be able to get X working at least with an svga server, but 
I guess that an ATI server will work as well. Try XF86Setup to create 
a working XF86Config file.




Also, should I upgrade my kernel to 2.4, or should that even matter?
(Please bear with me; I'm from the Windows world, where the newest is the
least unreliable)


This should not be necessary although kernel 2.4 is reliable.




Also, I understand that my modem(Creative Modem Blaster 56K PCI model
DI5630) doesn't function under Linux because it's just another Winmodem.
Has anyone heard of any ways to get this device to function under Linux?  If
not, that's alright because I've got a 33.6 external in the mail.


Search Google for your modem or have a look at www.linmodems.org. 
Plenty of people had the same problems like you and they managed to 
solve them.





Thanks for your help!

Jason Machacek


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Successful Debian Potato install on Compaq Proliant 2500 (was RE: Floppy Install - Need drivers for scsi raid controller)

2001-07-25 Thread Shaun Crossley
I'm a week or three late replying to this message, but I just thought I'd
put in my two bits on the issue.  I don't know if my experience will be of
any help to anyone but I'll do a brain dump nonetheless.

I successfully installed Debian Potato on a Proliant 2500 with a pair of
Compaq Smart 2/P PCI RAID controllers.  The primary controller is attached
to an external RAID tower, and the secondary controller is attached to the
internal RAID bay.  In addition, it has another onboard scsi controller for
the tape drive.  Not sure of the chipset on that because it's at home and
I'm at work right now.

I had previously succesfully installed RH7 on this box, so I knew that it
was possible to run the controllers under Linux.

After a bit of experimentation and reading, I discovered that the compact
series of boot floppies include smart-2 drivers. Once I built those
floppies, though, the battle wasn't over -- the compact boot kernel only has
/dev/ entries for a single controller; I had to manually mknod the entries
for the second controller (/dev/ida/c0p0... and so on).

It wouldn't have been an issue to get this running during the install
process, but I wanted to install such that the system booted off the
internal drive array instead of the external, and the internal array was on
the secondary controller... so I had to create the /dev/ida/c1d0p... nodes
for the secondary controller on the ramdisk during the first-stage install,
so that it would see and install to the correct array.

Then I was able to install to the secondary controller and internal array;
root went on /dev/c1d0p0 or something.

Anyways... I was actually surprised at how easy it was, once I figured out
that I needed the Compact boot floppies and that I  also needed to manually
create a series of /dev/ida/c1d0p... nodes for the install to find.

So, hopefully this info will be of use to someone... I'd be happy to fill in
more details if anyone has any questions.  

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To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Floppy Install - Need drivers for scsi raid controller


Hi,

I'm trying to do a vanilla Debian floppy install (rescue + root +
driver-1,2,3,4).

The system boots ok from the rescue disk and I get the boot: prompt, to
which I hit return.  Linux loads and I am prompted to insert the root
floppy, which I do and hit return, the setup program loads and I get as far
as the first step to select the keyboard layout.  Everything ok so far,
AFAICT.

The next step is to Preload essential modules from a floppy.  It seems,
the scsi controller is not recognised.  So I must follow this step, and
insert the driver-1 floppy.  After selecting yes, I get a dialog: Critical
Error - Cannot mount the floppy. Stop

I'm guessing that is isn't the correct install sequence, but after reading
the install manual (specifically chapters 5, 6  7) I still can't see what I
did wrong.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

The system I am trying to install to is a Compaq Proliant 4500.  It has a
5-disk scsi array controlled by a SMART raid controller in slot 1 of the
EISA bus.  There is also a NCR scsi controller embedded on the motherboard,
this is used for the CD-ROM and DAT drive.  If anyone has done an install to
similar hardware, I would be interested to hear about any other problems I
might expect.

Thanks.



IDE kernel messages after potato install

2001-07-17 Thread Brian P. Flaherty
Hello,

I have had two messages in kern.log since installing potato 2.2-r3
yesterday.  First, brief background: Gateway Solo 9300 with a 450 Mhz
Pentium, 288 MB RAM, 12 GB IDE hd and IDE CDROM.  Phoenix BIOS 16.53.
Windows 98 currently resides on /dev/hda1, but I haven't added it back
to lilo yet.  I have been running RH 6.2 and then 7.0 on it without
any obvious problems.  The first problem occurred when I was
un'tarring a pretty big file, my old /usr/local/ directory:

Jul 16 04:33:55 wenho kernel: hda: read_intr: status=0x59 
{ DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
Jul 16 04:33:55 wenho kernel: hda: read_intr: error=0x40 
{ UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=16490098, sector=3188215
Jul 16 04:33:55 wenho kernel: end_request: I/O error, 
dev 03:06 (hda), sector 3188215

In looking on the web, it looks like people have said that this is a
hardware error, but it seems strange that a hd error would just pop up
the day after I install Debian.

The second one is a clock time error that occurred when installing
software from a CDROM:

Jul 16 15:18:36 wenho kernel: probable hardware bug: clock timer 
configuration lost - probably a VIA686a.
Jul 16 15:18:36 wenho kernel: probable hardware bug: restoring 
chip configuration.

So, my question is are these really hardware problems that Debian is
showing me and other OS's hide or don't notice?  Or could these errors
be due to the fact that I am using the kernel off the Debian CD?
Might they disappear if I build my own kernel?  Finally, are these
significant?  Do they occur and then the system tries again and then
it works, or are these serious errors that should be corrected?

Thanks for your time and any suggestions.

Brian Flaherty

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Potato Install, Modconf, and a SMC (Western Digital 8013 ISA) NIC

2001-05-11 Thread Scott Fraser
Afternoon folks,

I am in the process of configuring a new Debian server, and have been
informed that I have to use a SMC (Western Digital 8013 ISA) NIC. We do
have these NICs running under Red-Hat Linux in-house, but I have
convinced the powers that be, to let me migrate from RedHat to Debian.

Here's a low-down on the box
P-166MMX
Microstar MS-5156 mainboard
128 MB of RAM
Adaptec 29160 SCSI adapter
Quantum Hard Drive - Atlas
USR ISA Internal Modem
Cirrus Logic 1MB Video Card
Western Digital 8013, ISA (SMC Chipset)

The NIC is jumpered to IRQ-10, IO=0X300 

modconf fails no matter what I try and do with this NIC, and yes, I have
tried a second NIC I know works forsure.

Thanks in advance all,



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Re: Potato Install, Modconf, and a SMC (Western Digital 8013 ISA) NIC

2001-05-11 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 01:17:22PM -0700, Scott Fraser wrote:
 Afternoon folks,
 
 I am in the process of configuring a new Debian server, and have been
 informed that I have to use a SMC (Western Digital 8013 ISA) NIC. We do
 have these NICs running under Red-Hat Linux in-house, but I have
 convinced the powers that be, to let me migrate from RedHat to Debian.
 
 Here's a low-down on the box
 P-166MMX
 Microstar MS-5156 mainboard
 128 MB of RAM
 Adaptec 29160 SCSI adapter
 Quantum Hard Drive - Atlas
 USR ISA Internal Modem
 Cirrus Logic 1MB Video Card
 Western Digital 8013, ISA (SMC Chipset)
 
 The NIC is jumpered to IRQ-10, IO=0X300 
 
 modconf fails no matter what I try and do with this NIC, and yes, I have
 tried a second NIC I know works forsure.

Fails how?  What module are you trying to load?  The WD8013 series is
supported by the wd.o module.

Adaptec cards like irq 10 ... make sure it's not stealing it.

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Re: Potato Install, Modconf, and a SMC (Western Digital 8013 ISA) NIC

2001-05-11 Thread Mike Fedyk
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 01:17:22PM -0700, Scott Fraser wrote:
 Afternoon folks,
 
 I am in the process of configuring a new Debian server, and have been
 informed that I have to use a SMC (Western Digital 8013 ISA) NIC. We do
 have these NICs running under Red-Hat Linux in-house, but I have
 convinced the powers that be, to let me migrate from RedHat to Debian.
 
 Here's a low-down on the box
 P-166MMX
 Microstar MS-5156 mainboard
 128 MB of RAM
 Adaptec 29160 SCSI adapter
 Quantum Hard Drive - Atlas
 USR ISA Internal Modem
 Cirrus Logic 1MB Video Card
 Western Digital 8013, ISA (SMC Chipset)
 
 The NIC is jumpered to IRQ-10, IO=0X300 
 
 modconf fails no matter what I try and do with this NIC, and yes, I have
 tried a second NIC I know works forsure.
 
How was it setup under redhat?  

Did they use isapnp?  

Is pnp (os = winxxx) on in the bios?



Potato install termwrap problem

2001-04-19 Thread Synaptic Chaos
I also had the problem listed below.
I tracked the problem to /etc/inittab
there was a temp /etc/inittab tring to run /sbin/termwrap
but I found the real  inittab at   /etc/inittab.real

just,cp /etc/inittab.real /etc/inittab






I just installed the base system of potato from the binary-i386 iso
image disk 1. Once it goes through the install of the base system,
I get the following error on boot.

/bin/sh: /sbin/termwrap: No such file or directory
/bin/sh: exec: /sbin/termwrap: cannot execute: No such file or directory

INIT: Id 1 respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes

What is wrong here? I looked in /sbin and there is no
termwrap program there.

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After potato install, why does 1st dselect install so much?

2001-04-09 Thread Robert Cymbala

AFTER SEARCHING through about 18 months of debian-user archives and
not finding a related thread, here's a question that's been on my mind
looking for a high-level answer.

Just now I did a fresh install of potato (2.2r2) from CD and chose
these tasks:
[*] Dialup  Dialup utilities
[*] Laptop  A selection of tools for laptop users
[*] Newbie Help New user documentation
[*] Python  Python script development environment
[*] Python Bundle   Full distribution of Python
[*] Python Dev  Full Python development environment
[*] Python Web  Python web application development environm
[*] SgmlSGML and XML authoring and editing
[*] Sgml DevSGML and XML development environment

Everything seemed OK, judging from having installed slink/potato about
a dozen times before (sometimes just for practice).

After a reboot, I launched dselect and:
 - [S]elect
 - upon entering Select screen, pressed ENTER (- All packages -)
 - [I]nstall

It said:
  ... 65 newly installed; 89.8MB will be used ...

I don't get it.  Why does dselect want to install so much, whereas
the operating-system install (from Rescue Disk boot to the Have Fun!
message) did not?  The main installation routine didn't install such
basic packages as ispell and finger, but somehow those two (and 63
others) were in dselect's queue of packages to be installed.

Running dselect a second time doesn't install or delete anything. Is
flushing dselect a normal part of installing Debian?

If so, is there a design reason why it's meant to be that way, or did
it evolve (in the negative sense of evolve), sort of like some
packages use Debian Configuration and others don't?

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Re: After potato install, why does 1st dselect install so much?

2001-04-09 Thread Joey Hess
Robert Cymbala wrote:
 I don't get it.  Why does dselect want to install so much, whereas
 the operating-system install (from Rescue Disk boot to the Have Fun!
 message) did not?

Dselect installs all standard priority packages by default. The task
system does not (in the version of debian you use; this was an
oversight, and it does/will in all later versions).

 If so, is there a design reason why it's meant to be that way, or did
 it evolve (in the negative sense of evolve), sort of like some
 packages use Debian Configuration and others don't?

That is not an evolution, that is the fact that potato shipped with us
50% through the transition to debconf (and woody will probably ship with
us 90% through).

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Re: After potato install, why does 1st dselect install so much?

2001-04-09 Thread David Wright
Quoting Robert Cymbala ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 
 AFTER SEARCHING through about 18 months of debian-user archives and
 not finding a related thread, here's a question that's been on my mind
 looking for a high-level answer.

I don't know about high-level; I can only make some observations.

 Just now I did a fresh install of potato (2.2r2) from CD and chose
 these tasks:
 [*] Dialup  Dialup utilities
 [*] Laptop  A selection of tools for laptop users
 [*] Newbie Help New user documentation
 [*] Python  Python script development environment
 [*] Python Bundle   Full distribution of Python
 [*] Python Dev  Full Python development environment
 [*] Python Web  Python web application development environm
 [*] SgmlSGML and XML authoring and editing
 [*] Sgml DevSGML and XML development environment

I don't normally select any tasks, but just move on to the 1st dselect.

 Everything seemed OK, judging from having installed slink/potato about
 a dozen times before (sometimes just for practice).
 
 After a reboot, I launched dselect and:
  - [S]elect
  - upon entering Select screen, pressed ENTER (- All packages -)
  - [I]nstall
 
 It said:
   ... 65 newly installed; 89.8MB will be used ...
 
 I don't get it.  Why does dselect want to install so much, whereas
 the operating-system install (from Rescue Disk boot to the Have Fun!
 message) did not?  The main installation routine didn't install such
 basic packages as ispell and finger, but somehow those two (and 63
 others) were in dselect's queue of packages to be installed.

What do you mean by operating-system install? If you mean the
part of the installation prior to the reboot, well you wouldn't
expect that part to install much. 89.8MB, let's see, what's that
in floppies, sixty? No, that part of the installation only includes
the packages that are needed to install more packages, i.e. it's a
classic bootstrap process.

Looking back at the size of dselect's appetite in the past, the
figures I have are:

bo35MB
hamm  45MB
slink 37MB

potato installed August 2000 with May's boot disks, dselect
upgraded 25 and installed 91 packages.

 Running dselect a second time doesn't install or delete anything. Is
 flushing dselect a normal part of installing Debian?

Yes, unless you know and specify exactly what you want to apt-get
(which also only satisfies Depends, and does not bother with Recommends
or Suggests). Dselect will give you everything that's Required,
Important or Standard, IIRC.

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Re: After potato install, why does 1st dselect install so much?

2001-04-09 Thread Robert Cymbala

David Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 14:45:40 +0100
 [...]
 Quoting Robert Cymbala ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 [...]
  Just now I did a fresh install of potato (2.2r2) from CD and chose
  these tasks:
  [*] Dialup  Dialup utilities
  [*] Laptop  A selection of tools for laptop users
  [*] Newbie Help New user documentation
  [*] Python  Python script development environment
  [*] Python Bundle   Full distribution of Python
  [*] Python Dev  Full Python development environment
  [*] Python Web  Python web application development environm
  [*] SgmlSGML and XML authoring and editing
  [*] Sgml DevSGML and XML development environment
 [...]
  After a reboot, I launched dselect and:
   - [S]elect
   - upon entering Select screen, pressed ENTER (- All packages -)
   - [I]nstall
  
  It said:
... 65 newly installed; 89.8MB will be used ...
  
  I don't get it.  Why does dselect want to install so much, whereas
  the operating-system install (from Rescue Disk boot to the Have Fun!
  message) did not?  The main installation routine didn't install such
  basic packages as ispell and finger, but somehow those two (and 63
  others) were in dselect's queue of packages to be installed.
 
 What do you mean by operating-system install? If you mean the
 part of the installation prior to the reboot, well you wouldn't
 expect that part to install much. 89.8MB, let's see, what's that
 in floppies, sixty? No, that part of the installation only includes
 the packages that are needed to install more packages, i.e. it's a
 classic bootstrap process.


Thank you for the feedback.  It has prompted me to dig deeper into the
install documentation; in fact, I've been able to answer my own
question upon further reading!


My CD set has (where M: is CD-ROM in Windows Explorer):
  ---
  file:///M:/install/doc/ch-init-config.en.html#s-preselections
  7.24 Select and Install Profiles
  version 2.2.20.0.1, 30 November, 2000

That section says:
So, you have the ability to choose tasks or profiles instead.


The latest install documentation version has:
  ---
  http://www.debian.org/releases/2.2/i386/ch-init-config.en.html#s-preselections
  7.29 Simple Package Selection -- The Task Installer 
  version 2.2.21, 21 March, 2001

That newer section says:
So, you have the ability to choose tasks instead.


Section 7.29 (version on-line) ends with a caveat:
  The second caveat is that some so-called ``standard'' packages are
  not installed by default. Thus, some software, which we consider
  basic to any Linux system, may not be installed.[6] In order to
  install that software, simply run tasksel -s, without selecting any
  packages, then select ``Finish''.

Footnote #6 reads:
  http://www.debian.org/releases/2.2/i386/footnotes.en.html#6
  This is due to a bug in base-config which we have fixed for the
  next release. We decided not to change this after Potato release,
  since it was a rather large change, and too likely to cause
  problems.

So, until next release, I need to do ``tasksel -s'' as the final step
of what I called operating-system install (better to have said,
Debian install).  It turns out that I noticed the bug in practice,
and sure enough the latest install documentation addresses it and what
to do about it.

Thank you,
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Re: printing broken in potato install

2001-01-18 Thread Bob Underwood
On my system, to get around this situation, I installed the paraport modules
during the initial install and used modconf later to add lp.  

bob

On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, Doug Hespe wrote:
 
 I have just installed potato on a machine which happily
 ran slink before.  During the install it refused to
 load the lp module---
 Error installing lp module
 /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/lp.o:init_module:Device or resource busy
 Hint: this error can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including 
 invalid IO or IRQ parameters
 /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/lp.o:insmod /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/lp.o failed
 /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/lp.o:insmod lp failed
 ---so I put in parport which someone mentioned some time ago.
 
 At bootup, if the printer is on, parport detects the
 printer correctly-- see attatched dmesg log-- but when
 I try to cat testfile  /dev/lp0 or lp1, bash complains
 that no such devices exist.
 
 If someone can tell me where in the fine manual to look
 for help, I should be most grateful.
 
 TIA,
 Doug.
 


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Re: printing broken in potato install

2001-01-18 Thread Doug Hespe
Thanks Sebastiaan and Mike: insmod lp.o did the trick.
My next task will be to work out a way of getting this to happen
automatically on boot-up, probably in one of the rc scripts.

regards, 
Doug.



Re: printing broken in potato install

2001-01-18 Thread mike polniak
Doug Hespe wrote:
 Thanks Sebastiaan and Mike: insmod lp.o did the trick.
 My next task will be to work out a way of getting this to happen
 automatically on boot-up, probably in one of the rc scripts.
  
For kernel modules to load at boot time check out /etc/modules in
man modules. And for auto-loading modules with alias see man modules.conf.
-- 

~~~



Re: printing broken in potato install

2001-01-18 Thread Doug Hespe
Thanks, Bob.

When I looked at modconf it indicated that the lp module was now
in the kernel--probably because I followed Sebastiaan and Mike's
suggestions.  My next task will be to reboot and see if it stays
there.

Regards, 

Doug.

On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 11:39:38AM -0500, Bob Underwood wrote:
 On my system, to get around this situation, I installed the paraport modules
 during the initial install and used modconf later to add lp.  
 
 bob



printing broken in potato install

2001-01-17 Thread Doug Hespe
I have just installed potato on a machine which happily
ran slink before.  During the install it refused to
load the lp module---
Error installing lp module
/lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/lp.o:init_module:Device or resource busy
Hint: this error can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including 
invalid IO or IRQ parameters
/lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/lp.o:insmod /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/lp.o failed
/lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/lp.o:insmod lp failed
---so I put in parport which someone mentioned some time ago.

At bootup, if the printer is on, parport detects the
printer correctly-- see attatched dmesg log-- but when
I try to cat testfile  /dev/lp0 or lp1, bash complains
that no such devices exist.

If someone can tell me where in the fine manual to look
for help, I should be most grateful.

TIA,
Doug.
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GNU/Linux)) #1 Sun Jun 25 09:24:41 EST 2000
Detected 400917 kHz processor.
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3w-: tw_findcards(): No cards found.
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Partition check:
 hda: hda1 hda2  hda5 hda6 hda7 hda8 
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
Freeing unused kernel memory: 140k freed
NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0 for Linux NET4.0.
Adding Swap: 64224k swap-space (priority -1)
AWE32: not detected
parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778) [SPP,ECP,ECPEPP,ECPPS2]
parport0: detected irq 7; use procfs to enable interrupt-driven operation.
parport_probe: succeeded
parport0: Printer, Kyocera FS-680
CSLIP: code copyright 1989 Regents of the University of California
PPP: version 2.3.7 (demand dialling)
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SLIP: version 0.8.4-NET3.019-NEWTTY-MODULAR (dynamic channels, max=256).
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Re: printing broken in potato install

2001-01-17 Thread Sebastiaan
Hi,

perhaps lp.o is compiled in the kernel. In order to print you need (on an
ordinary i386): parport.o parport_pc.o lp.o
Try insmodding there three (in this order) and see what it does.

Hope it helps,
Sebastiaan


On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Doug Hespe wrote:

 I have just installed potato on a machine which happily
 ran slink before.  During the install it refused to
 load the lp module---
 Error installing lp module
 /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/lp.o:init_module:Device or resource busy
 Hint: this error can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including 
 invalid IO or IRQ parameters
 /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/lp.o:insmod /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/lp.o failed
 /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/lp.o:insmod lp failed
 ---so I put in parport which someone mentioned some time ago.
 
 At bootup, if the printer is on, parport detects the
 printer correctly-- see attatched dmesg log-- but when
 I try to cat testfile  /dev/lp0 or lp1, bash complains
 that no such devices exist.
 
 If someone can tell me where in the fine manual to look
 for help, I should be most grateful.
 
 TIA,
 Doug.
 



Re: printing broken in potato install

2001-01-17 Thread mike polniak
 
 At bootup, if the printer is on, parport detects the
 printer correctly-- see attatched dmesg log-- but when
 I try to cat testfile  /dev/lp0 or lp1, bash complains
 that no such devices exist.

You need the lp module. Do lsmod to see if its loaded. If not try
modprobe. I am assuming the standard lpr program is installed. If so you
can setup /etc/printcap with a pkg like printtool.
-- 

~~~



dropped out of potato install sequence

2001-01-17 Thread Ken Irving

This is probably not a bug, but my careless fingers caused the 2.2r2
installation sequence to bail, leaving me at a login prompt.  I'm 
sending this note in the interest of maybe improving the installation
sequence for other clumsy new* users. (* new to Debian; I've used SuSE 
and RedHat for a few years.)

This was just after going through the package select, then anXious
dialogs, at a prompt which said I'd chosen 49 MB of packages which would
take 100 MB disk space, and ended with the prompt (Yn)?. I typed y,
then saw that Y was in caps; hit Y, so now had yY; tried backspace
which did nothing; tried Ctl-H, which landed me at a login prompt.

I'm not sure how to recover/restart the install, and don't see a
troubleshooting section in the fine manual that covers this contingency.
Running dselect shows a much more detailed package listing than was 
displayed during the install dialogs. Is it possible to run a command
to run through the install profiles (tasks) from the command line?

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Re: dropped out of potato install sequence

2001-01-17 Thread David B . Harris
To quote Ken Irving [EMAIL PROTECTED],
# I'm not sure how to recover/restart the install, and don't see a
# troubleshooting section in the fine manual that covers this
contingency.
# Running dselect shows a much more detailed package listing than was 
# displayed during the install dialogs. Is it possible to run a command
# to run through the install profiles (tasks) from the command line?

Yeah, try 'tasksel'.

David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay
Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)



Re: dropped out of potato install sequence

2001-01-17 Thread Andrew Wettstein
 I'm not sure how to recover/restart the install, and don't see a
 troubleshooting section in the fine manual that covers this contingency.
 Running dselect shows a much more detailed package listing than was 
 displayed during the install dialogs. Is it possible to run a command
 to run through the install profiles (tasks) from the command line?

yes,  try
apt-cache search ^task

and apt-get install task-package after that.

if you already have the stuff selected you can type dselect
and go to install and just press enter a few times and it should
start installing the stuff you selected

later

 
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Straight to woody after fresh potato install?

2001-01-03 Thread csj
The first of two questions: Is it OK to specify woody as the apt source after 
a fresh potato installation (I just grabbed, as someone suggested, the 2.88mb 
floppy install image)? I want to have woody with the least number of 
downloaded packages.

Second question: where is the best place to get the latest gnome packages? 
I'm planning to do some gtk compiling. Which gnome and what (virtual?) 
package do I specify to get a complete development environment. This query 
has been prompted by my inability to compile the lastest xcdroast (0.98?) 
under potato.

TIA



Re: Straight to woody after fresh potato install?

2001-01-03 Thread Jon Pennington
csj wrote:
 
 The first of two questions: Is it OK to specify woody as the apt source after
 a fresh potato installation (I just grabbed, as someone suggested, the 2.88mb
 floppy install image)? I want to have woody with the least number of
 downloaded packages.

Sure.  I'd recommend changing your sources.list, apt-get update, then
install debconf, then apt-get dist-upgrade.

 Second question: where is the best place to get the latest gnome packages?
 I'm planning to do some gtk compiling. Which gnome and what (virtual?)
 package do I specify to get a complete development environment. This query
 has been prompted by my inability to compile the lastest xcdroast (0.98?)
 under potato.

I just use the packages at Helixcode.  I don't even use the Debian GNOME
packages if I can help it.

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Re: Straight to woody after fresh potato install?

2001-01-03 Thread Hall Stevenson
 The first of two questions: Is it OK to specify woody
 as the apt source after a fresh potato installation

I did and it worked fine. The commands (after specifying Woody in
/etc/apt/sources.list) are apt-get update and then apt-get upgrade.
This will only upgrade the packages you currently have, along with any
new dependencies.


 Second question: where is the best place to get the
 latest gnome packages? I'm planning to do some gtk
 compiling. Which gnome and what (virtual?) package
 do I specify to get a complete development environment.
 This query has been prompted by my inability to
 compile the lastest xcdroast (0.98?) under potato.

I believe the most actively developed would be HelixCode's site. I don't
remember the exact URL, but do have it at home. Someone else will likely
post it, but I did find this entry by searching the lists archives:

deb http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com/distributions/debian unstable main

Good luck
Hall Stevenson




Re: Straight to woody after fresh potato install?

2001-01-03 Thread David B . Harris
To quote Jon Pennington [EMAIL PROTECTED],
# csj wrote:
#  
#  The first of two questions: Is it OK to specify woody as the apt
source after
#  a fresh potato installation (I just grabbed, as someone suggested,
the 2.88mb
#  floppy install image)? I want to have woody with the least number of
#  downloaded packages.
# 
# Sure.  I'd recommend changing your sources.list, apt-get update, then
# install debconf, then apt-get dist-upgrade.
# 
#  Second question: where is the best place to get the latest gnome
packages?
#  I'm planning to do some gtk compiling. Which gnome and what
(virtual?)
#  package do I specify to get a complete development environment. This
query
#  has been prompted by my inability to compile the lastest xcdroast
(0.98?)
#  under potato.
# 
# I just use the packages at Helixcode.  I don't even use the Debian
GNOME
# packages if I can help it.

I would just like to point out that it is really quite difficult to get
rid of Helix GNOME in favour of the regular Debian packages if at some
point in the future you decide Helix is too buggy.

I installed Helix without difficulty; and it ran just fine. However, I
have a rather spartan desktop, without even the GNOME panel. I long ago
got rid of GNOME's session manager(sort of slow and bloated, that one),
so really all I'm running is Sawfish and some 'gkrellm' monitors. So, I
decided to get rid of Helix and switch to the Debian packages. I did it,
but it wasn't fun at all.

Dave



Re: Potato install termwrap problem

2000-12-02 Thread USM Bish

I have faced the same problem with a fresh installation
with Linux Central binary CD distribution.  Downloading
a fresh base system and installing from  hard disk made
no difference.

Secondly, the lp module is also not being configured on
doing a Configure of the Installed kernel.

No clues on this termwrap issue !

Need some help in this regard.

Thanks.

USM Bish


On Thu, 30 Nov 2000, Brian Lavender wrote:

 I just installed the base system of potato from the binary-i386 iso
 image disk 1. Once it goes through the install of the base system,
 I get the following error on boot.
 
 /bin/sh: /sbin/termwrap: No such file or directory
 /bin/sh: exec: /sbin/termwrap: cannot execute: No such file or directory
 
 INIT: Id 1 respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
 
 What is wrong here? I looked in /sbin and there is no
 termwrap program there.
 
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Potato install termwrap problem

2000-12-01 Thread Brian Lavender
I just installed the base system of potato from the binary-i386 iso
image disk 1. Once it goes through the install of the base system,
I get the following error on boot.

/bin/sh: /sbin/termwrap: No such file or directory
/bin/sh: exec: /sbin/termwrap: cannot execute: No such file or directory

INIT: Id 1 respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes

What is wrong here? I looked in /sbin and there is no
termwrap program there.

brian
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Re: potato install

2000-10-29 Thread ralbright5
 VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd

Known problem of linux 2.2.16 and some 2.2.17pre's.
Update linux to 2.2.17 or even 2.2.18pre.
this newbie wants to know whats name of what I need. have browsed
metallab's potato
list but can't locate the kernels ]
TIA
robert

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potato install

2000-10-28 Thread ralbright5
Have installed deb2.2 twice trying to correct the following error:
VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd
This is after the base2.2.gz is loaded and being installed. Have tried
using install from cd 
and install from floppys

tia
robert


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Re: potato install

2000-10-28 Thread Moritz Schulte
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 VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd

Known problem of linux 2.2.16 and some 2.2.17pre's.
Update linux to 2.2.17 or even 2.2.18pre.

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potato install - unmet mysql dependency?

2000-09-17 Thread will trillich
i did a fresh format/partition/install of potato from iso/cd install;
after poking around a bit* i found that mysql needed zlib1g-dev
(zlib.h i think) and even though
apt-get check
reported all was lovely, i had to manually
apt-get install zlib1g-dev
anyhow.

is it a bug? is it me?*

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Re: Potato install fails to load ROOT image

2000-09-14 Thread Julio Merino
On Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 04:41:33PM -0400, Stuart Ballard wrote:

 Sorry to reply to myself, but I've come to the conclusion after further
 testing that my floppy drive is 100% busted and I'm not going to be able
 to do anything useful off it. I also can't (practically) replace it. I
 do have a fully functioning RedHat 5.2 installation on the machine and a
 fast network connection, but it's one big partition plus swap. Is there
 any way I can get debian onto this puppy?

I had problems with my floppy drive... cleaning it worked fine for
me.

Look below for more tips...

 I'm thinking of things along the lines of
 # cd /
 # mkdir redhat
 # mv * redhat
 # /redhat/usr/bin/tar zxvf redhat/base_2.2.tar.gz

First, note that this won't work. You will move the libraries off the
root directory so the system won't find them and it will simply crash.
You won't be able to run tar or anything other.

 
 But then...
 - How do I get a kernel?
 - How do I make the system bootable (is LILO in the default install?)
 [Possible answer: mv /redhat/boot /boot, and just boot off the old
 kernel - how much else would have to be preserved, though?]
 - How do I get into the installation system? (presumably base_2.2
 doesn't extract to a fully functional distribution, or we wouldn't have
 an installation program at all...)
 
 Note that due to the aforementioned fast network connection, there is no
 problem getting stuff onto this machine, and it already has linux on an
 ext2 filesystem, so it should be among the easier cases of this kind of
 installation. On the other hand, the absence of a working floppy is
 going to make life hard.

Do other machines on the network have linux installed?

First, compile a kernel in them so you have a properly one to go with
debian.

Then, INSTALL the debian base system in any other machine that has a
good floppy drive. After the base system has been properly installed
and configured, tar it and then untar it in the laptop machine in the
root directory.

Once you have done this, the system will be able to boot up after you
install LILO.

I managed to acquire something like this to get debian installed in a
raid device.

Hope this helps.

PD: It could be interesting that debian could be
network-cross-installed, I mean, remotely installed or installed from
any other linux system.

 
 One *possible* workaround would be that, since the floppy drive is more
 temperamental than 100% broken, I might be able to get the rescue
 floppy, at least, to boot. If I can do this, I can of course enter
 rescue mode and mount my existing / partition as root, but (at least
 according to the installation guide) you can't install from a partition
 onto the same partition.
 
 What I'm trying to say is, Er, help?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 Stuart.
 
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RE: Potato install fails to load ROOT image

2000-09-14 Thread Anderson, Tim TL33E


Sorry to reply to myself, but I've come to the conclusion after
further
testing that my floppy drive is 100% busted and I'm not going to be
able
to do anything useful off it. I also can't (practically) replace it.
I

Floppy drives are about $10 now aren't they?

do have a fully functioning RedHat 5.2 installation on the machine
and a
fast network connection, but it's one big partition plus swap. Is
there
any way I can get debian onto this puppy?

Shrink your big partition and add one for /home. Move your stuff on
there, then you can blow out the main one and do a fresh install from the
CDs ( I assume they're around somewhere)

tim




RE: Potato install fails to load ROOT image

2000-09-14 Thread Anderson, Tim TL33E
How depressing.  The only thing I can think of is to install a very basic
potato on  another machine and copy that over, then install the rest from
the network.
But that maybe completely stupid, and if it is then I'm sure the list will
say so..

tim

-Original Message-
From:   Stuart Ballard [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   Thursday, September 14, 2000 10:20 AM
To: Anderson, Tim TL33E
Subject:Re: Potato install fails to load ROOT image

Anderson, Tim TL33E wrote:
 
 Floppy drives are about $10 now aren't they?

Try $139. It's an old laptop requiring a specially made floppy
drive,
and it has no access to anywhere I could plug a standard floppy
into...

I'm screwed.

Stuart.



RE: Potato install fails to load ROOT image

2000-09-14 Thread C. Falconer

At 09:45 AM 9/14/00 -0400, you wrote:
Sorry to reply to myself, but I've come to the conclusion after 
further
testing that my floppy drive is 100% busted and I'm not going to 
be able

to do anything useful off it. I also can't (practically) replace it.


Bugger!

Go buy a new floppy drive - standard PC ones are $40 NZ (probably no more 
than $15 US)


However if this machine is a laptop a floppy will be expensive.  I paid 
$450 NZ for a TI floppy drive last year.  If this is the case, have you got 
a CD Rom drive that can boot?  Or perhaps you can borrow a floppy drive for 
long enough to get things going.  A friend here has a Toshiba Libretto with 
a PCMCIA floppy drive, perhaps that will boot in your machine.


Or as a last resort - use a 2.5 to 3.5 IDE adapter, take out the hard 
drive and boot it on a normal workstation.


Good luck !  (down with laptops)

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Re: Potato install fails to load ROOT image

2000-09-14 Thread Adam Di Carlo
Stuart Ballard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Sorry to reply to myself, but I've come to the conclusion after further
 testing that my floppy drive is 100% busted and I'm not going to be able
 to do anything useful off it. I also can't (practically) replace it. I
 do have a fully functioning RedHat 5.2 installation on the machine and a
 fast network connection, but it's one big partition plus swap. Is there
 any way I can get debian onto this puppy?

CD?  Install from DOS? Those would be easiest. But I'll assume those
won't work.

 I'm thinking of things along the lines of
 # cd /
 # mkdir redhat
 # mv * redhat
 # /redhat/usr/bin/tar zxvf redhat/base_2.2.tar.gz

Ouch. Do you have a free partition to play with?  YOu only need, uh,
150MB or so.

 But then...
 - How do I get a kernel?

Install from harddisk option, is documented.

The problem is going to be starting the system.  I don't know what to
say about this.  Hmm.  It might be possible to gunzip and loop mount
root.bin and then chroot into it, invoking the busybox init.  Never
tried it though.

 - How do I make the system bootable (is LILO in the default
 install?)

Yup, sure.

 [Possible answer: mv /redhat/boot /boot, and just boot off the old
 kernel - how much else would have to be preserved, though?]

doesn't much matter...

 - How do I get into the installation system? (presumably base_2.2
 doesn't extract to a fully functional distribution, or we wouldn't have
 an installation program at all...)

See above.

 Note that due to the aforementioned fast network connection, there is no
 problem getting stuff onto this machine, and it already has linux on an
 ext2 filesystem, so it should be among the easier cases of this kind of
 installation. On the other hand, the absence of a working floppy is
 going to make life hard.

Yeah, that's why non-sucky arches like powerpc/sparc etc have
openfirmware and better support for fully network installation.

 One *possible* workaround would be that, since the floppy drive is more
 temperamental than 100% broken, I might be able to get the rescue
 floppy, at least, to boot. If I can do this, I can of course enter
 rescue mode and mount my existing / partition as root, but (at least
 according to the installation guide) you can't install from a partition
 onto the same partition.

Or, again, if you have disk space to play with, make a little dos
partition, then boot from a dos disk and run the loadlin option...

 What I'm trying to say is, Er, help?

Good luck!

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Potato install fails to load ROOT image

2000-09-13 Thread Stuart Ballard
I'm trying to install potato from floppies (onto a laptop that doesn't
have a CD drive). 100% reliably and repeatably, I get the following
messages when I insert the ROOT floppy:

end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00 (floppy), sector 799
end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00 (floppy), sector 799
invalid compressed format (err=1)5VFS: Insert root floppy and press
ENTER

(pressing enter at this point appears to try to mount the disk as the
root filesystem itself, rather than copying it to the ramdisk, so I get
a bunch of other error messages...)

I've obtained this exact same error across 3 different root floppies
(the third one I actually re-downloaded the image, to make sure) and two
different rescue floppies. I'm out of ideas. Anyone?

Thanks very much in advance,

Stuart.

PS in case it helps, I'm trying to install on an AST Ascentia 800N
laptop, which I believe is 486-based.



Re: Potato install fails to load ROOT image

2000-09-13 Thread Julio Merino
Maybe all your floppies have phisical errors... hey, that could
happen, it happened to me. Try to buy new floppy disks.

If this don't work, try to clean the floppy drive; get it out of the
laptop and clean it internally (BE CAREFUL). If this doesn't solve the
problem, I could say yo to buy a new one...

Do any other disks work fine?

Bye!

On Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 11:17:40AM -0400, Stuart Ballard wrote:

 I'm trying to install potato from floppies (onto a laptop that doesn't
 have a CD drive). 100% reliably and repeatably, I get the following
 messages when I insert the ROOT floppy:
 
 end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00 (floppy), sector 799
 end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00 (floppy), sector 799
 invalid compressed format (err=1)5VFS: Insert root floppy and press
 ENTER
 
 (pressing enter at this point appears to try to mount the disk as the
 root filesystem itself, rather than copying it to the ramdisk, so I get
 a bunch of other error messages...)
 
 I've obtained this exact same error across 3 different root floppies
 (the third one I actually re-downloaded the image, to make sure) and two
 different rescue floppies. I'm out of ideas. Anyone?
 
 Thanks very much in advance,
 
 Stuart.
 
 PS in case it helps, I'm trying to install on an AST Ascentia 800N
 laptop, which I believe is 486-based.
 
 
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Re: Potato install fails to load ROOT image

2000-09-13 Thread Stuart Ballard
Julio Merino wrote:
 
 Maybe all your floppies have phisical errors... hey, that could
 happen, it happened to me. Try to buy new floppy disks.
 
 If this don't work, try to clean the floppy drive; get it out of the
 laptop and clean it internally (BE CAREFUL). If this doesn't solve the
 problem, I could say yo to buy a new one...
 
 Do any other disks work fine?

Well, the rescue disk works fine, and the 3 floppies I tried were all
from different sources.

Actually the first rescue disk I tried failed the second time I tried to
use it (and every time after that), but the second rescue disk seems to
repeatably succeed.

It seems unlikely that the 3 completely separate floppies would fail in
the same place without it being a symptom of something bigger...

Stuart.



Re: Potato install fails to load ROOT image

2000-09-13 Thread Stuart Ballard
Stuart Ballard wrote:
 
 I'm trying to install potato from floppies (onto a laptop that doesn't
 have a CD drive). 100% reliably and repeatably, I get the following
 messages when I insert the ROOT floppy:
[snip]
 I've obtained this exact same error across 3 different root floppies
 (the third one I actually re-downloaded the image, to make sure) and two
 different rescue floppies. I'm out of ideas. Anyone?

Sorry to reply to myself, but I've come to the conclusion after further
testing that my floppy drive is 100% busted and I'm not going to be able
to do anything useful off it. I also can't (practically) replace it. I
do have a fully functioning RedHat 5.2 installation on the machine and a
fast network connection, but it's one big partition plus swap. Is there
any way I can get debian onto this puppy?

I'm thinking of things along the lines of
# cd /
# mkdir redhat
# mv * redhat
# /redhat/usr/bin/tar zxvf redhat/base_2.2.tar.gz

But then...
- How do I get a kernel?
- How do I make the system bootable (is LILO in the default install?)
[Possible answer: mv /redhat/boot /boot, and just boot off the old
kernel - how much else would have to be preserved, though?]
- How do I get into the installation system? (presumably base_2.2
doesn't extract to a fully functional distribution, or we wouldn't have
an installation program at all...)

Note that due to the aforementioned fast network connection, there is no
problem getting stuff onto this machine, and it already has linux on an
ext2 filesystem, so it should be among the easier cases of this kind of
installation. On the other hand, the absence of a working floppy is
going to make life hard.

One *possible* workaround would be that, since the floppy drive is more
temperamental than 100% broken, I might be able to get the rescue
floppy, at least, to boot. If I can do this, I can of course enter
rescue mode and mount my existing / partition as root, but (at least
according to the installation guide) you can't install from a partition
onto the same partition.

What I'm trying to say is, Er, help?

Thanks in advance,
Stuart.

PS please keep -user (or myself personally) cc:d, I'm not subscribed to
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Re: Debian 2.2 Potato install

2000-08-26 Thread Shaul Karl
 Does the simple install as described in Debians HOWTO actually work, or
 wasn't it included in this distribution?
 


I am not sure what exactly do you mean by Debians HOWTO, but the 
installation process that is described on www.debian.org and on the 
documentation section of the Debian CDs is supposed to be working. Of course, 
as you can see in this mailing list, there are problems for some users. Why 
won't you try it out?


 I have ready every mail in this subscription, I have seen questions on
 Zope, apache, squid answered promptly, but this simple question on Debian
 has been ignored.
 
 Is this some sort of snobery because I am a complete newby?
 
 
 
 
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Debian 2.2 Potato install

2000-08-25 Thread Reg
Does the simple install as described in Debians HOWTO actually work, or
wasn't it included in this distribution?

I have ready every mail in this subscription, I have seen questions on
Zope, apache, squid answered promptly, but this simple question on Debian
has been ignored.

Is this some sort of snobery because I am a complete newby?





Re: Debian 2.2 Potato install

2000-08-25 Thread Wayne Topa

Subject: Debian 2.2 Potato install
Date: Fri, Aug 25, 2000 at 09:58:46PM +1000

In reply to:Reg

Quoting Reg([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
reg Does the simple install as described in Debians HOWTO actually work, or
reg wasn't it included in this distribution?
reg 
reg I have ready every mail in this subscription, I have seen questions on
reg Zope, apache, squid answered promptly, but this simple question on Debian
reg has been ignored.
reg 
reg Is this some sort of snobery because I am a complete newby?

1st lesson a newbie has to learn.

Start a NEW thread if you have a question, don't reply to a different
subject.  You don't get many answers that way.

What problems are you having installing Debian?
Put the problem in the subject and you will get more help then you
ever saw on the Microsloth Help line.

I haven't installed Debian, fresh, in 5-6 years so if you ask a
specific question, i, or someone could be of help.


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Re: ppp trouble on clean potato install [-v]

2000-08-21 Thread Ross Hamilton

At 8:01 AM -0500 20/8/00, John Hasler kindly responded:


Exactly what happens when you start pppd with 'noauth'?


Excuse the laborious detail, I'm feeling my way fairly blindly here...

I have a couple of xterms up for the exercise, su'd as root on both, 
with minicom running in the first.


I dial in as described, manually entering my username and password, 
which seem to be acceptable to the remote machine (from the 
com-terminal at least).


From the supplied menu, I choose start ppp (ie, on the remote 
side). The host responds with with my session IP  MTU numbers, then 
a string of around 100 chars, none of it human-readable save for the 
word melbourne embedded twice (fair enough - that's our locale).


I hurry over to the other terminal and issue pppd noauth. Echoed 
now to the same term is a string of around 50 chars (all 
cyber-greek-to-me), repeated perhaps ten times in fairly rapid 
succession before we return to the bash prompt.


Back in the minicom session, nothing much visible is happening in 
response. A message online appears momentarily, then reverts to 
offline. The line drops finally with NO CARRIER in less than one 
minute - or else immediately I try to initiate an http request.



After performing this rite, 'plog' gives this:

 Aug 21 19:11:29 proli pppd[7921]: pppd 2.3.11 started by rossh, uid 0
 Aug 21 19:11:29 proli pppd[7921]: Using interface ppp0
Aug 21 
19:11:29 proli pppd[7921]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/pts/2

 Aug 21 19:11:59 proli pppd[7921]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
 Aug 21 19:11:59 proli pppd[7921]: Connection terminated.
 Aug 21 19:11:59 proli pppd[7921]: Exit.


...whereas, after a simple 'pon', it's output is as follows:

 Aug 21 19:16:56 proli pppd[7933]: sent [PAP AuthReq id=0x1 
user=rossh password=hidden]

 Aug 21 19:16:56 proli pppd[7933]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x0 magic=0x0]
 Aug 21 19:16:56 proli pppd[7933]: rcvd [PAP AuthNak id=0x1 Request 
DeniedBad Encrypted-Password]
 Aug 21 19:16:56 proli pppd[7933]: Remote message: Request DeniedBad 
Encrypted-Password

 Aug 21 19:16:56 proli pppd[7933]: PAP authentication failed
 Aug 21 19:16:56 proli pppd[7933]: sent [LCP TermReq id=0x2 Failed 
to authenticate ourselves to peer]

 Aug 21 19:16:57 proli pppd[7933]: rcvd [LCP TermAck id=0x2]
 Aug 21 19:16:57 proli pppd[7933]: Connection terminated.
 Aug 21 19:16:57 proli pppd[7933]: Hangup (SIGHUP)
 Aug 21 19:16:57 proli pppd[7933]: Exit.


Curiouser and curiouser, eh?. Running 'pppconfig' shows the password 
identical to the one which works from the com-terminal as well as 
from my mac. I'm starting to think there's some more fundamental 
misconfiguration issue causing this (remember it's a fresh install, 
hardly road-tested yet). I do have shadow-passwords installed this 
time around (and not formerly under slink), but I really can't 
believe that could be the root of the problem. I'm certainly not 
having any trouble with shell log-in.



Oh yeah, here is /etc/chatscripts/provider:

 # This chatfile was generated by pppconfig 2.0.5.
 # Please do not delete any of the comments.  Pppconfig needs them.
 #
 # ispauth PAP
 # abortstring
 ABORT BUSY ABORT 'NO CARRIER' ABORT VOICE ABORT 'NO DIALTONE' ABORT 
'NO DIAL  TONE' ABORT 'NO ANSWER'

 # modeminit
 '' ATZ
 # ispnumber
 OK-AT-OK ATDT92501700
 # ispconnect
 CONNECT \d\c
 # prelogin
 # ispname
 # isppassword
 # postlogin
 # end of pppconfig stuff


Thanks very much for your attention so far. Any further ideas very 
much appreciated.


Regards,

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ppp trouble on clean potato install [-v]

2000-08-20 Thread Ross Hamilton

Hi people,

I decided to repartition my drives and install potato from scratch 
using my hot-off-the-press CD set, but am now having problems 
negotiating a PPP connection with my ISP under the new configuration.


Issuing pon, the modem dials out, I/O LEDs flash briefly, then 
nothing. Attempts to make an http connection fail with lynx giving 
the standard message: Alert: unable to connect to remote host.


So I installed minicom and tried walking through a terminal 
connection. As expected, dial out and initial connection seem to 
proceed well. The remote system requests and accepts my user id and 
password and I am presented with the expected menu of remote-hosted 
services. I can log in to the UNIX server, access my home directory, 
run a pine session, etc.


The troubles surface when I choose the option to start PPP. 
Everything seems OK at the other end - I get a message: Entering PP 
session, then notification of my assigned assigned dynamic IP and 
MTU numbers, followed by an encouraging-looking stream of garbage... 
but after a short time the connection drops with a NO CARRIER 
signal.


Here are the settings from /etc/ppp/options [egrep -v '#|^ *$' 
/etc/ppp/options]:


 asyncmap 0
 auth
 crtscts
 lock
 hide-password
 modem
 proxyarp
 lcp-echo-interval 30
 lcp-echo-failure 4
 noipx


...and here is my /etc/ppp/peers/provider:

 # This optionfile was generated by pppconfig 2.0.5.
 #
 #
 hide-password
 noauth
 connect /usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/chatscripts/provider
 debug
 /dev/ttyS0
 115200
 defaultroute
 noipdefault
 user rossh
 remotename provider
 ipparam provider


Possibly it's some kind of authentication problem I don't understand. 
I don't know whether or not this is relevant, but if I try to 
manually start pppd during the interval before the line drops, then I 
get the following message:


 pppd: The remote system is required to authenticate itself
 pppd: but I couldn't find any suitable secret (password) for it to 
use to do so.

 pppd: (None of the available passwords would let it use an IP address.)


Anyway, the connection drops whether I try to start pppd with no 
argument, or with noauth or with call provider.


Sorry about the length but I have no idea what's wrong or where to 
look further to troubleshoot this. Under my old slink install it all 
just worked. Any thoughts or pointers anyone?


TIA

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Re: ppp trouble on clean potato install [-v]

2000-08-20 Thread John Hasler
Ross Hamilton writes:
 Everything seems OK at the other end - I get a message: Entering PP
 session, then notification of my assigned assigned dynamic IP and MTU
 numbers, followed by an encouraging-looking stream of garbage...  but
 after a short time the connection drops with a NO CARRIER signal.

That sounds normal: the pppd at the other end gives up when it gets no
response to its lcp packets.

 I don't know whether or not this is relevant, but if I try to 
 manually start pppd during the interval before the line drops, then I 
 get the following message:

   pppd: The remote system is required to authenticate itself

Normal: you didn't start pppd with 'noauth' so it defaulted to 'auth'.

 Anyway, the connection drops whether I try to start pppd with no
 argument, or with noauth or with call provider.

Exactly what happens when you start pppd with 'noauth'?

 Any thoughts or pointers anyone?

Please post the output of the 'plog' command after doing 'pon' and
/etc/chatscripts/provider.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI



Potato Install Problem (Base System Step)

2000-07-19 Thread jpglutting
Hi,

I have been trying to install a copy of Potato, from last Sunday 
(July . The install is causing problems - first it gave me a bad 
lenght error when unzipping and installing the kernel and drivers 
(drivers.tgz). I solved this by copying the CD to a linux partition on 
another hard drive (not really sure why this worked...). But it will not 
install the Base System. I have tried from the hard drive and the 
CD, and each time it seems to be loading and reading information, 
and then it returns to the install menu with Install Base System 
selected again. If I select Configure Base System, it says that 
the Base system has not been installed.

I know that at least one other person on thi slist has had this 
problem. Anyone else? Any suggestions? Would it help to update 
the Base2_2.tgz file? Is this a problem with the installer?

Thanks,

JP



Montse Rue
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Re: Potato install won't let me set root password.

2000-07-15 Thread Joey Hess
Well you're the second person to report seeing this problem.

Stephen Starling wrote:
 Had to use potato because I have an Athlon (tried
 slink, it hangs, did research here and found that the
 kernal was too old). So Potato installs fine up to and
 including The Moment of Truth
 
 Then it asks to set MD5? then Shadow? then root
 password? 
 
 That's where I set it, it asks to confirm by retyping.
  then it sends me back to set root password again.
 
 I've tried all kinds of passwords, long, short, Caps
 and lower and punctuation.  I've tried this without
 MD5 and without Shadow.
 
 Can anyone help me out?

Please boot the system up. Use alt-f2 to switch to the next VC. Log in
as root. If it asks you for a login password, something is really strange
-- mail me back for other instructions.

If it does not ask you for a password, run the following command at the
prompt:

script

Then at the prompt, run the following command:

DEBCONF_DEBUG=2 dpkg-reconfigure base-config

Proceed through the dialogs exactly as you did before. Once you have
entered a root password twice and (presumably) been sent back to the
root password prompt again, use alt-f3 to switch to the next VC. Log in
as root.

There should be a file named typescript in your current directory.
Mail me that file.

-- 
see shy jo



Potato install won't let me set root password.

2000-07-12 Thread Stephen Starling
Had to use potato because I have an Athlon (tried
slink, it hangs, did research here and found that the
kernal was too old). So Potato installs fine up to and
including The Moment of Truth

Then it asks to set MD5? then Shadow? then root
password? 

That's where I set it, it asks to confirm by retyping.
 then it sends me back to set root password again.

I've tried all kinds of passwords, long, short, Caps
and lower and punctuation.  I've tried this without
MD5 and without Shadow.

Can anyone help me out?
Stephen

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Ping and traceroute not working on new potato install

2000-06-28 Thread Michael Janssen \(CS/MATH stud.\)

Hi --

  I recently installed a machine with debian.  I only have one problem
with the install.. I can't ping.. whenever I try to ping:

3 bleh:~ ping 127.1
ping: socket: Protocol not supported

traceroute has this error also:

bleh:~# traceroute 127.1
traceroute: icmp socket: Protocol not supported

All other networking on this machine works fine. I can telnet, ssh,
web browse, etc.  I just can't ping or traceroute.  I'm baffled.  

Thanks, 

Michael Janssen



Re: potato install w/ aic7880

2000-05-31 Thread t.bedlam
On Tue, May 30, 2000 at 12:45:47PM -0700, Chris Baker was only 
   escaped alone to tell thee:

 sjk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  I am having a terrible time trying to get potato to install on a machine
  with an aic7880 scsi controller. The current rescue.bin hangs at loading
  sym53c416 - just after the aic78xxx mods. I have tried compiling a new
  kernel with the options listed in the install doc - and the install
  begins, but 1) it can't write the tmp keyboard config, and 2) the driver
  script fails. I can't seem to mount any of the driver disks to update
  the modules.tgz file - what file system do these disks use?? I have
  tried re-writing them several times.
 
 Have you tried passing
 
 aic7xxx=noprobe
 
 as a parameter to the kernel?

No good, methinks.

The default slink kernel was so loaded with SCSI drivers that the Adaptec
2940 in my machine choked and couldn't write to the drives. Two versions of
aic7xxx-only kernels were announced on the Debian webpage to fix this. Does 
potato suffer from this problem as well?

And may I compile a potato kernel on my slink machine BEFORE I upgrade,
assuming I update glibc and gcc?

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Potato install question--Configure Device Driver Modules step

2000-05-30 Thread Ron Stordahl
When doing 'Configure Device Driver Modules' under 'misc' I find

serial- ( no description available)

Is this likely to be the typical 2 serial ports???  If so seems like it
should say soas it is it leaves me wondering.


Ron





Potato install question--Configure Device Driver Modules

2000-05-30 Thread Ron Stordahl
When doing 'Configure Device Driver Modules' under 'misc' I find

parport  - (No description available)
parport_pc   - PC-style hardware


Seems likely the later would be the typical parallel port at x'0378' irq 7.
If so it would not be so hard to say so seems to me.

But what is 'parport' (No description available)?

A little more information at this point would be very helpful.

Ron





Re: Potato install question--Configure Device Driver Modules

2000-05-30 Thread Bruce Sass
On Tue, 30 May 2000, Ron Stordahl wrote:

 When doing 'Configure Device Driver Modules' under 'misc' I find
 
 parport  - (No description available)
 parport_pc   - PC-style hardware
 
 
 Seems likely the later would be the typical parallel port at x'0378' irq 7.
 If so it would not be so hard to say so seems to me.
 
 But what is 'parport' (No description available)?
 
 A little more information at this point would be very helpful.

parport gives you basic parallel port support, everyone with a
parallel port in their box probably wants this.

parport_pc should also be selected if you are running an Intel based
box (or some SPARCs, IIRC), presumably it will handle any quirks
specific to those hardware architectures.

serial is the standard serial port driver.

Yes, it would be nice if there were better docs available.
Unfortunately, the best way to get the info you want is by downloading
the kernel source and reading the docs and comments in the code for the 
drivers.


later,

Bruce



Re: potato install w/ aic7880

2000-05-30 Thread Chris Baker
sjk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I am having a terrible time trying to get potato to install on a
 machine with an aic7880 scsi controller. The current rescue.bin hangs
 at loading sym53c416 - just after the aic78xxx mods. I have tried
 compiling a new kernel with the options listed in the install doc -
 and the install begins, but 1) it can't write the tmp keyboard config, 
 and 2) the driver script fails. I can't seem to mount any of the
 driver disks to update the modules.tgz file - what file system do
 these disks use?? I have tried re-writing them several times.

Have you tried passing

aic7xxx=noprobe

as a parameter to the kernel?

HTH,

cbb



potato install

2000-05-28 Thread Harry ten Berge
I've downloaded a cd-image of the potato 1st test cycle. Installation goes
ok, but with potato there are tasks instead of profiles. The manual claims
it's still possible to select a profile. I can't find it. Is it a glitch in
the manual or am I doing something wrong?


Harry ten Berge

==
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an option - it's a standard component.
Choose your life. Choose your future.
Choose Linux.



potato install w/ aic7880

2000-05-20 Thread sjk

I am having a terrible time trying to get potato to install on a
machine with an aic7880 scsi controller. The current rescue.bin hangs
at loading sym53c416 - just after the aic78xxx mods. I have tried
compiling a new kernel with the options listed in the install doc -
and the install begins, but 1) it can't write the tmp keyboard config, 
and 2) the driver script fails. I can't seem to mount any of the
driver disks to update the modules.tgz file - what file system do
these disks use?? I have tried re-writing them several times.

Any help would be much appreciated - Thanks



Re: Q: Potato install tool to config X is?

2000-05-14 Thread Brad
On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 03:11:56AM -0700, Ed Slocomb wrote:
 
 If I run out of ways to kill time at work, I'll do what other debian users
 do when they want a thorough X config-- I'll go out on the net and beg users
 of other distros and similar hardware for relevant snippets of their 
 XF86Config files.

i can't speak for all Debian users, but when i want a thorough X config i
use xf86config, then check the docs and tweak things manually.


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Q: Potato install tool to config X is?

2000-05-12 Thread Jonathan Gift
Hi,

Does the install procedure on Potato require you dig up the monitor's
frequency rate, etc, or can you just select the resolution an bitmap mode as
in 1152x864 and 24 bit?

Thanks;
Jonathan



Re: Q: Potato install tool to config X is?

2000-05-12 Thread Ed Slocomb
On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 10:00:47AM +0200, Jonathan Gift wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Does the install procedure on Potato require you dig up the monitor's
 frequency rate, etc, or can you just select the resolution an bitmap mode as
 in 1152x864 and 24 bit?
 

I just installed the frozen potato, and the cold spud tried to make me use
xf86config to generate my XF86Config file.  I outsmarted the icy tuber by
hitting ctl-C and then saying no every time it asked me again, and then
I used the bronze tool known as XF86Setup to get a suboptimal but perfectly
functional XF86Config file in place.  On the way, I had to get rid of the 
electric yo-yo known as gpm, because it was hijacking my mouse.  If I were
in charge, I'd drop gpm's priority to optional before releasing 2.2, but
then I always purge the dratted package anyway.

If I run out of ways to kill time at work, I'll do what other debian users
do when they want a thorough X config-- I'll go out on the net and beg users
of other distros and similar hardware for relevant snippets of their 
XF86Config files.



Re: Q: Potato install tool to config X is?

2000-05-12 Thread Mental
On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 03:11:56AM -0700, Ed Slocomb wrote:
 I just installed the frozen potato, and the cold spud tried to make me use
 xf86config to generate my XF86Config file.  I outsmarted the icy tuber by
 hitting ctl-C and then saying no every time it asked me again, and then
 I used the bronze tool known as XF86Setup to get a suboptimal but perfectly
 functional XF86Config file in place.  On the way, I had to get rid of the 
 electric yo-yo known as gpm, because it was hijacking my mouse.  If I were
 in charge, I'd drop gpm's priority to optional before releasing 2.2, but
 then I always purge the dratted package anyway.
 
 If I run out of ways to kill time at work, I'll do what other debian users
 do when they want a thorough X config-- I'll go out on the net and beg users
 of other distros and similar hardware for relevant snippets of their 
 XF86Config files.


You know, you CAN use gpm and have it work quite nicely with X. This
issue has come up and been answered several times while I've been on 
this list (about 3 weeks).

Hint: use /dev/gpmdata as your Pointer for X.

Or just dig back a few threads and see the full writeup.

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Re: Q: Potato install tool to config X is?

2000-05-12 Thread Daniel Reuter
Hello Jonathan,

On Fri, 12 May 2000, Jonathan Gift wrote:
 
 Does the install procedure on Potato require you dig up the monitor's
 frequency rate, etc, 

Yes it does. You can of course always choose one of the least demanding
modes for the hardware (640x480, 16 colours (in fact this is what
XF86Setup does. Uses this mode with the VGA16 server to throw you directly
into X for a graphical configuration and later on switches to the
better settings you supplied)). 
But if you want to get the best out of your hardware, you should know the
capabilities of your monitor/graphics card. Most modern monitors have
protection circuits against a dotclock which is too high, so at least you
can't damage anything anymore (But be careful! Older monitors (and
perhaps also some of the newer ones, I don't know) don't have
this feature). So it would not be bad, if you could get the information
(as you have to enter it in XF86Setup anyway).

Regards,
Daniel





Re: Q: Potato install tool to config X is?

2000-05-12 Thread Mike Werner
On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 10:23:07AM -0400, Mental wrote:
 On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 03:11:56AM -0700, Ed Slocomb wrote:
  I just installed the frozen potato, and the cold spud tried to make me use
  xf86config to generate my XF86Config file.  I outsmarted the icy tuber by
  hitting ctl-C and then saying no every time it asked me again, and then
  I used the bronze tool known as XF86Setup to get a suboptimal but perfectly
  functional XF86Config file in place.  On the way, I had to get rid of the 
  electric yo-yo known as gpm, because it was hijacking my mouse.  If I were
  in charge, I'd drop gpm's priority to optional before releasing 2.2, but
  then I always purge the dratted package anyway.
  
  If I run out of ways to kill time at work, I'll do what other debian users
  do when they want a thorough X config-- I'll go out on the net and beg users
  of other distros and similar hardware for relevant snippets of their 
  XF86Config files.
 
 
 You know, you CAN use gpm and have it work quite nicely with X. This
 issue has come up and been answered several times while I've been on 
 this list (about 3 weeks).
 
 Hint: use /dev/gpmdata as your Pointer for X.

Why?  I've got gpm running to use the mouse on the console, and in
my XF86Config the pointer section uses /dev/mouse, which is linked
to /dev/psaux.  And everything works just fine.  Worked just fine
when I was running slink, worked just fine when I was running potato,
and still works just fine running woody.
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Re: Q: Potato install tool to config X is?

2000-05-12 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
  Hint: use /dev/gpmdata as your Pointer for X.
 
 Why?  I've got gpm running to use the mouse on the console, and in
 my XF86Config the pointer section uses /dev/mouse, which is linked
 to /dev/psaux.  And everything works just fine.  Worked just fine
 when I was running slink, worked just fine when I was running potato,
 and still works just fine running woody.
 
because MY system tends to hang upon every third console switch with this
configuration. YMMV.

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Re: Q: Potato install tool to config X is?

2000-05-12 Thread Mental
On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 08:09:41PM +0200, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote:
   Hint: use /dev/gpmdata as your Pointer for X.
  
  Why?  I've got gpm running to use the mouse on the console, and in
  my XF86Config the pointer section uses /dev/mouse, which is linked
  to /dev/psaux.  And everything works just fine.  Worked just fine
  when I was running slink, worked just fine when I was running potato,
  and still works just fine running woody.
  
 because MY system tends to hang upon every third console switch with this
 configuration. YMMV.

It depends on your hardware. I've had varying degrees of success with
different mice. Currently I'm using XFree4 and that 7 button optical 
USB mouse that MS makes. I like it. It doesnt get gummed up, and was
easy to setup. I had a mouse that whenever I setup as an IMPS2 pointer,
refused to work if gpm was running. Its just good to know alternatives
if you have issues with gpm/X. There's usually a work around.

If you dont care, thats valid too. I was just pointing out an option.

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Potato install glitches....

2000-04-28 Thread Ron Stordahl
I am doing a CD boot install of potato and finding a few problems.

First as to what version this is, about all I can tell you is that it says:
kernel-image 2.2.14_2.2.14-2 and a little later it says debian rescue floppy
ver 2.2.9 2000-03-28.  I downloaded the entire CD image of disc 1
potato-i386-1.raw 04/16/00 03:14pm so I am guessing its pretty fresh.

Now the glitches:

When the install program asks me to select the medium used to install the
system I choose cdrom and it responds:  You have more than one CD-ROM
drive.  Please select the drive from which you want to install Debian

But I only have one CD-ROM drive and in addition it presents me with just
this to choose from:

/dev/hdc: ATAPI (IDE), first drive on the secondary controller.

Now I want to point out I am not at all puzzled, I can just select this as
its the only one anyway, but does this represent a problem in the install
software which should be corrected before potato is released?  Maybe that
too late but I want to report this in case there is time.

Or is this the wrong place to report this?

By the way this potato install has many of the slink install querks fixed.

Ron



Potato INSTALL on LAPTOP (NEC Versa 4050H): pcmcia modules unresolved

2000-04-21 Thread Rick Macdonald

Trying to install potato from scratch on a NEC Versa 4050H (P90MHz),
depmod reports unresolved symbols for all the pcmcia modules. I have
zircom and 3com pcmcia NICs, but I can't get the modules for either to
load because of this unresolved symbol problem. Without the NIC, I can't
get past the base install.

What can I do to fix this?

...RickM...


Re: Potato INSTALL on LAPTOP (NEC Versa 4050H): pcmcia modules unresolved

2000-04-21 Thread Bruce Sass
On Thu, 20 Apr 2000, Rick Macdonald wrote:

 
 Trying to install potato from scratch on a NEC Versa 4050H (P90MHz),
 depmod reports unresolved symbols for all the pcmcia modules. I have
 zircom and 3com pcmcia NICs, but I can't get the modules for either to
 load because of this unresolved symbol problem. Without the NIC, I can't
 get past the base install.
 
 What can I do to fix this?

This is a known problem with the Potato installation system.  Check the
debian-boot mailing list archives for a manual work around; that
failing, subscribe to debian-boot and ask.


later,

Bruce


Re: Potato INSTALL on LAPTOP (NEC Versa 4050H): pcmcia modules unresolved

2000-04-21 Thread Rick Macdonald
On Fri, 21 Apr 2000, Bruce Sass wrote:

 On Thu, 20 Apr 2000, Rick Macdonald wrote:
 
  
  Trying to install potato from scratch on a NEC Versa 4050H (P90MHz),
  depmod reports unresolved symbols for all the pcmcia modules. I have
  zircom and 3com pcmcia NICs, but I can't get the modules for either to
  load because of this unresolved symbol problem. Without the NIC, I can't
  get past the base install.
  
  What can I do to fix this?
 
 This is a known problem with the Potato installation system.  Check the
 debian-boot mailing list archives for a manual work around; that
 failing, subscribe to debian-boot and ask.

Ah, so it is -- thanks.

I couldn't find any work-around so I've just asked on the boot list. I may
have to load slink, then just upgrade to potato (and build my own 2.2.14
kernel). That should work, shouldn't it? It looks like just the boot
floppies are mismatched, which wouldn't affect a slink-potato upgrade, I
figure.

...RickM...


Re: Potato INSTALL on LAPTOP (NEC Versa 4050H): pcmcia modules unresolved

2000-04-21 Thread Bruce Sass
On Fri, 21 Apr 2000, Rick Macdonald wrote:
 On Fri, 21 Apr 2000, Bruce Sass wrote:
  On Thu, 20 Apr 2000, Rick Macdonald wrote:
   Trying to install potato from scratch on a NEC Versa 4050H (P90MHz),
   depmod reports unresolved symbols for all the pcmcia modules. I have
   zircom and 3com pcmcia NICs, but I can't get the modules for either to
   load because of this unresolved symbol problem. Without the NIC, I can't
   get past the base install.
   
   What can I do to fix this?
  
  This is a known problem with the Potato installation system.  Check the
  debian-boot mailing list archives for a manual work around; that
  failing, subscribe to debian-boot and ask.
 
 Ah, so it is -- thanks.
 
 I couldn't find any work-around so I've just asked on the boot list. I may
 have to load slink, then just upgrade to potato (and build my own 2.2.14
 kernel). That should work, shouldn't it? It looks like just the boot
 floppies are mismatched, which wouldn't affect a slink-potato upgrade, I
 figure.

Well, the pcmcia stuff is separate from the kernel so you would need to
build both (that is the impression I get from monitoring debian-boot).
If by load slink you mean re-install slink, then it may be best to try
the latest Potato boot floppies release.  2.2.11 was just released (last
night) and fixes some (all?) of the modconf related problems.  There was
also an upload of new pcmcia packages a day or two ago (check
incoming.debian.org if they are not in the ftp archive yet).  I'd give
bf-2.2.11 a try.


later,

Bruce


Re: Potato INSTALL on LAPTOP (NEC Versa 4050H): pcmcia modules unresolved

2000-04-21 Thread Rick Macdonald
On Fri, 21 Apr 2000, Bruce Sass wrote:

  I couldn't find any work-around so I've just asked on the boot list. I may
  have to load slink, then just upgrade to potato (and build my own 2.2.14
  kernel). That should work, shouldn't it? It looks like just the boot
  floppies are mismatched, which wouldn't affect a slink-potato upgrade, I
  figure.

 If by load slink you mean re-install slink, then it may be best to try

Yes, I meant to start fresh and install slink.

 the latest Potato boot floppies release.  2.2.11 was just released (last
 night) and fixes some (all?) of the modconf related problems.  There was
 also an upload of new pcmcia packages a day or two ago (check
 incoming.debian.org if they are not in the ftp archive yet).  I'd give
 bf-2.2.11 a try.

Sure, this is better!

I assume that you mean:

http://incoming.debian.org/boot-floppies_2.2.11_all.deb

and not the bf-*-* stuff?

...RickM...


Re: Potato INSTALL on LAPTOP (NEC Versa 4050H): pcmcia modules unresolved

2000-04-21 Thread Rick Macdonald
On Fri, 21 Apr 2000, Bruce Sass wrote:

 2.2.11 was just released (last night) and fixes some (all?) of the
 modconf related problems.  There was also an upload of new pcmcia
 packages a day or two ago (check incoming.debian.org if they are not
 in the ftp archive yet).  I'd give bf-2.2.11 a try.

I'm downloading the boot-floppies, pcmcia-modules and pcmcia-cs
packages now, but I would have thought that a new kernel-image package
would have to come at the same time?

...RickM...


Re: Potato INSTALL on LAPTOP (NEC Versa 4050H): pcmcia modules unresolved

2000-04-21 Thread Bruce Sass
On Fri, 21 Apr 2000, Rick Macdonald wrote:
 On Fri, 21 Apr 2000, Bruce Sass wrote:
  the latest Potato boot floppies release.  2.2.11 was just released (last
  night) and fixes some (all?) of the modconf related problems.  There was
  also an upload of new pcmcia packages a day or two ago (check
  incoming.debian.org if they are not in the ftp archive yet).  I'd give
  bf-2.2.11 a try.
 
 Sure, this is better!
 
 I assume that you mean:
 
 http://incoming.debian.org/boot-floppies_2.2.11_all.deb
 
 and not the bf-*-* stuff?

I'd wait until it hits the ftp archive
(.../debian/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/2.2.11*).

The boot-floppies .deb is the package that provides the bits you need to
build your own boot floppies; good if you are creating custom boot
floppies or are working with the boot floppies team.  I think you need
to have potato installed to use them.

The stuff uploaded to incoming gets processed into what you see in the 
ftp archive automatically.


- Bruce


Potato install: pcmcia broken?

2000-04-07 Thread Tony Crawford
Boy, I sure do pick loser subject lines! (was: Order of installation -
 potato/pcmcia.) Second try:

Hi gang!

What am I doing wrong? I copied linux, install.bat, base2_2.tgz, 
driver2_2.tgz, loadlin.exe etc. etc. to a DOS partition on my Toshiba 
4080 XCDT, then booted from a DOS floppy and ran install.bat.

The installation looks great (congratulations, team!) up to reboot 
the system: the boot hangs in /etc/init.d/pcmcia, right after it 
echoes modules to the screen. The pcmcia modules all show 
unresolved symbols. Don't they fit the 2.2.14 kernel that comes with 
the installation? Is something broken, or is there an operator error 
here?

(I can Alt+Ctrl+F2 out of the dbootstrap routine and disable the 
init.d/pcmcia script before rebooting, but then what--go to dpkg and 
install kernel and pcmcia module sources and recompile before 
finishing the installation? That can't be the intended behavior.)

Tony

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Re: Potato install: pcmcia broken?

2000-04-07 Thread Germano Leichsenring
Hi, did you try this?

update-modules ; depmod -a ; /etc/init.d/pcmcia start

This might solve -- or might not.
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Re: Potato install: pcmcia broken?

2000-04-07 Thread Tony Crawford
Germano Leichsenring wrote (on 7 Apr 00, at 16:52):

 Hi, did you try this?
 
 update-modules ; depmod -a ; /etc/init.d/pcmcia start

I did the depmod and start--didn't know about update-modules (why 
update them? they're brand new) but I'll try it, thanks!

Tony

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Re: Potato install

2000-03-28 Thread kmself
It's not clear to me where you are in the installation process.  Given
that your post has been sitting here all day without response, I'd
suggest it would be quicker and easier to restart the installation.
Until you start installing and configuring packages on your system, you
really haven't invested much effort.  

You can skip partitioning and badblocks checking steps, naturally,
if you're satisfied with your current settings.

On Mon, Mar 27, 2000 at 04:53:16PM +0200, Nico De Ranter wrote:
 
 Howdy,
 
 I'm installing a new PC with Debian potato.  Unfortunately when
 I was asked to choose between Simple and Advanced installation
 I choose Advanced but after seeing the list of possible packages
 I changed my mind :-). How can I rerun the installation without 
 having to reinstall the whole system?
 
 Nico
 
 
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Potato install

2000-03-27 Thread Nico De Ranter

Howdy,

I'm installing a new PC with Debian potato.  Unfortunately when
I was asked to choose between Simple and Advanced installation
I choose Advanced but after seeing the list of possible packages
I changed my mind :-). How can I rerun the installation without 
having to reinstall the whole system?

Nico


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  refer to customers as users: illegal drug trade and
   the computer industry. 

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How to do a clean Potato install?

2000-03-24 Thread Christian Pernegger
Hello everyone!

I haven't been subscribed to this list for a long time (and I didn't post a
lot even then because I was new to Linux at the same time...)

Anyway, here I am. I've had surprisingly much success with setting up my Slink
box, but the included X-Free doesn't support my new Matrox, SMP doesn't run
all that smoothly...

Question is, how do I best go about doing a clean install of Potato if I want
to boot from the (2.1r4) CD and need the dhcpcd package to connect to the net?
(Download quantities are no problem at all.)

Best whishes

Christian


Re: How to do a clean Potato install?

2000-03-24 Thread Aaron Solochek
I don't know about the cd, but I had to make a couple of boot disks, a
rescue, boot image, and three driver disks, and the potato install
process used dhcp to configure my network, and did everything else over
the net, it was great.

-Aaron Solochek
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Christian Pernegger wrote:
 
 Hello everyone!
 
 I haven't been subscribed to this list for a long time (and I didn't post a
 lot even then because I was new to Linux at the same time...)
 
 Anyway, here I am. I've had surprisingly much success with setting up my Slink
 box, but the included X-Free doesn't support my new Matrox, SMP doesn't run
 all that smoothly...
 
 Question is, how do I best go about doing a clean install of Potato if I want
 to boot from the (2.1r4) CD and need the dhcpcd package to connect to the net?
 (Download quantities are no problem at all.)
 
 Best whishes
 
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Re: /etc/rc?.d directories missing on potato install

2000-03-23 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Wed, Mar 22, 2000 at 03:25:33PM -0500, Jameson Burt wrote:
 Last week I installed potato on a new computer.
 Before the first reboot, I selected one of the category of packages.
 After the first reboot, install let me select more packages, but exited 
 prematurely.  One possible reason would be that /var was limited to the
 size of /, 128MB, so apt-get may have crashed trying to pull down 700MB
 into 128MB of space [I had 10GB of space on /usr/local, which I later 
 linked /var/cache into].

Bad juju that lack of disk space!

 
 I reinstalled sysvinit to get the /etc/rc?.d directories;
 however, reinstalling other packages like apache are not
 creating the links from /etc/rc?.d into /etc/init.d .
 I could make the links myself, but they have a certain number sequence,
 so I had best let the Debian installation create this links.

The first thing that comes to mind, is you have at least one link to the
packages in question in one of the /etc/rc?.d directories. The
update-rc.d won't muck with your links unless there are none.  This way,
every time you do an upgrade, your links don't get screwed with.  If you
want the defaults do update-rc.d -f package remove ; update-rc.d
package defaults.  That should do the trick.


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/etc/rc?.d directories missing on potato install

2000-03-22 Thread Jameson Burt
Last week I installed potato on a new computer.
Before the first reboot, I selected one of the category of packages.
After the first reboot, install let me select more packages, but exited 
prematurely.  One possible reason would be that /var was limited to the
size of /, 128MB, so apt-get may have crashed trying to pull down 700MB
into 128MB of space [I had 10GB of space on /usr/local, which I later 
linked /var/cache into].

I reinstalled sysvinit to get the /etc/rc?.d directories;
however, reinstalling other packages like apache are not
creating the links from /etc/rc?.d into /etc/init.d .
I could make the links myself, but they have a certain number sequence,
so I had best let the Debian installation create this links.

Does anyone have an idea how to get proper links back into /etc/rc?.d

Thank you, 
Jameson Burt


Re: fresh potato install dpkg problem

2000-03-11 Thread Jonathan Nieder

I found it... the link is below.

ftp://ftp.iteso.mx/.1/debian/dists/potato/main/binary-i386/base/dpkg_1.6.9.deb


Note that the problem goes away on upgrade to 1.6.11...

So this information isn't really relavent anymore.

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Re: fresh potato install dpkg problem

2000-03-10 Thread Aaron Solochek
Oh... I manually dpkg'ed the perl debs and that fixed it.  but worth
noting as a bug.  

But, where can I get the older dpkg packaes so that I don't hit that wall?


On Fri, 10 Mar 2000, Aaron Solochek wrote:

 I just got to the point of first dselect on a fresh potato installation.
 I get the following errors:
 
 debconf: Perl may be unconfigured (It then lists files it can't find and
 such)
 
 E: Write error - write (32 Broken Pipe)
 E: Failure running script dpkg-preconfigure --apt
 
 Then it runs the standard I'll try to configure the other packages and
 dies with code 100.
 
 How can I fix this?
 
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Re: fresh potato install dpkg problem

2000-03-10 Thread Aaron S. Hawley
On Fri, 10 Mar 2000, Aaron Solochek wrote:

 Oh... I manually dpkg'ed the perl debs and that fixed it.  but worth
 noting as a bug.  

has this bug been reported?  it really sucks.

i've looked, and looked and can't find a related bug report

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Re: fresh potato install dpkg problem

2000-03-10 Thread Aaron Solochek
I found it... the link is below.

ftp://ftp.iteso.mx/.1/debian/dists/potato/main/binary-i386/base/dpkg_1.6.9.deb

-Aaron Solochek

On Fri, 10 Mar 2000, Aaron S. Hawley wrote:

 On Fri, 10 Mar 2000, Aaron Solochek wrote:
 
  Oh... I manually dpkg'ed the perl debs and that fixed it.  but worth
  noting as a bug.  
 
 has this bug been reported?  it really sucks.
 
 i've looked, and looked and can't find a related bug report
 
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problem with new potato install

2000-03-04 Thread Jason Wright
I'm having odd problems with a fresh potato install.  I installed from
the 2.2.7-2000-02-13 floppies yesterday (03/02/2000) and this is not an
upgraded from Slink. 

System info:

HP Vectra XA6 Series 5xx
Via Rhine NIC (working fine, this doesn't appear to be a NIC problem)
Custom kernel, not the stock Potato 2.2.14

synergy:~ ] uname -a
Linux synergy 2.2.14 #2 Fri Mar 3 12:53:28 PST 2000 i686 unknown
synergy:~ ] lsmod
Module  Size  Used by
sb 34708   0 (unused)
uart401 6352   0 [sb]
sound  58284   0 [sb uart401]
soundcore   2788   6 [sb sound]
nfs29408   1 (autoclean)
lockd  32200   0 (autoclean) [nfs]
sunrpc 54628   1 (autoclean) [nfs lockd]
autofs  9440   1 (autoclean)
via-rhine   9232   1
synergy:~ ] sudo ipchains -L
Chain input (policy ACCEPT):
Chain forward (policy ACCEPT):
Chain output (policy ACCEPT):

Telnet is not the only application exhibiting these symptoms, it just
happens to illustrate them:

synergy:~ ] telnet synergy 
Trying xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx...
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: No buffer space available
synergy:~ ] telnet localhost 
Trying 127.0.0.1...
[hangs untill I ^C out...]

But, from another host:

caliber:~ ] telnet synergy 
Trying xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx...
Connected to synergy
Escape character is '^]'.
Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 (frozen) synergy
synergy login:

Or:

synergy:~ ] rpcinfo -p synergy
rpcinfo: can't contact portmapper: RPC: Remote system error - No buffer space 
available

But from another host:

caliber:~ ] rpcinfo -p synergy
   program vers proto   port  service
102   tcp111  rpcbind
102   udp111  rpcbind

Of course, this means that lockd, statd and other RPC friends have been
unable to register on synergy so my NFS is erratic at best.

I'm also getting a lot of these:

Mar  3 19:22:49 synergy kernel: neighbour table overflow
Mar  3 19:23:02 synergy kernel: neighbour table overflow
Mar  3 19:27:17 synergy kernel: neighbour table overflow

Any ideas?  Thanks in advance!

PeeWee

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potato install woes

2000-03-02 Thread Robert Waldner

Hi!

I tried to install potato on a Compaq Armada M700 notebook and experienced some 
problems (I think I solved them, this is just for documentation purposes):

- When installing base2_2.tgz there is a broken pipe:
  zcat base2_2.tgz | tar x
which hangs almost instantly, according to tar, the proper incantation
to read from stdin would be
  zcat base2_2.tgz | tar x -
I extracted base by hand on the second console, rebooted and went 
straight to the configure base system option in the installer
- the pcmcia-cs-package adds a wrong line to /etc/inittab:
  S:12345:respawn:/sbin/getty ttyS3
which should read
  S:12345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 ttyS3
Since I don´t need this, I commented it out in the pcmcia-script.

Should I file bugs, and if yes, against which packages?

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potato install issues

2000-03-01 Thread Kevin Conover
I'm trying to install potato to a new machine to be used as a squid
box.  (I know potato is beta/frozen).  I'm having the following issues:

1) during the install, after the first reboot, I'm getting an error with
init.  Specifically, the install process puts a line in inittab that says
to respawn /root/.bash_profile (or was it rc, I forget, I'm home now) at
run level 1.  The file doesn't exist so the respawn gets cranky.  Who is
supposed to put down this file?  I've tried touching the file and/or
commenting out the line (using another virtual console).  Anyone know what
is supposed to be the contents of this file or why I'm not getting it?

2) I'm not getting the dselect section that lets me select
workstation or server or ...  I'm trying to be lazy and just select
server but I'm not getting this dialog.  Where does this dialog come
from?  Is this supposed to be what's in /root/.bash_profile?

3) I have 1 SCSI drive and 4 ide drives and the lilo docs are unclear as
to how to set up /etc/lilo.conf for this arrangement so that I can boot
from the scsi drive and use the 4 ide drives for raiding for the cache.  
I've tried what the docs imply:

disk=/dev/sda
bios=0x80
disk=/dev/hda
bios=0x81 (I've also tried 0x30, which is what lilo -v -v -v tells me)

but I'm still dying at LI.  According to the manual for lilo, this is a
geometry mismatch, lilo can't find the data it needs, it's getting
confused by the multiple hard drives.  

thanks.

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smb not working since POTATO install

2000-02-08 Thread Rick Macdonald

I upgraded my slink system to potato and the 2.2.14 kernel. All is well so
far except for smb serving files to a Win95 box. I can access the Win95
shares, bit Win95 can't access my Linux box. This happened after the
potato install before I switched to the new kernel from 2.0.34.

I get this at the command line of the potato machine (I have 3 NICs on the
box):

timshel:~/Tcl/TKSETI$ smbclient -L timshel
added interface ip=1.1.1.1 bcast=1.1.1.255 nmask=255.255.255.0
added interface ip=2.2.2.2 bcast=2.2.2.255 nmask=255.255.255.0
added interface ip=3.3.3.3 bcast=192.168.49.255 nmask=255.255.255.0
Password:
Domain=[WORKGROUP] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 2.0.6]
tree connect failed: code 0

And this is in /var/log/smb:

[2000/02/07 17:16:25, 1] smbd/server.c:main(643)
  smbd version 2.0.6 started.
  Copyright Andrew Tridgell 1992-1998
[2000/02/07 17:16:25, 1] smbd/files.c:file_init(216)
  file_init: Information only: requested 1 open files, 246 are
available.
[2000/02/07 17:16:26, 0] lib/util_sec.c:assert_gid(72)
  Failed to set gid privileges to (-1,65534) now set to (0,0) uid=(0,0)
[2000/02/07 17:16:26, 0] lib/util.c:smb_panic(2456)
  PANIC: failed to set gid
  
Any ideas?

...RickM...



RE: Cannot mount cdrom in new potato install

2000-01-20 Thread Irving Frederick
Thanks for all the replies. The problem was as
described and subsequently solve.

FRED

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Cannot mount cdrom in new potato install

2000-01-18 Thread Irving Frederick

Hello Debian Users:
I just installed a base potato system using the
current disk downloads
from the Debian FTP site. All went well until I
tried to mount my cdrom
drive. I was given an error message to the effect
that the cdrom device
does not exist. I then went to my /dev directory
and discovered that
there was no /dev/cdrom . . . .hmmm. I tried to
run MAKEDEV but
unfortunately was not clever enough to get it to
do anything. Can anyone
tell me how to fix this problem so that I can access
my cdrom drive and
install X windows and some other good stuff from
my slink cdrom (until I
can get a potato cdrom). Thanks in advance.

FRED




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RE: Cannot mount cdrom in new potato install

2000-01-18 Thread Paulo J. da Silva e Silva
By any chance do you know to what device is your CD-ROM attached?

For exemple, my cd-rom is the slave drive of the first IDE, therefore it is
/dev/hdb.  The usual IDE device are:

/dev/hda: Master of first IDE slot;
/dev/hdb: Slave of first IDE slot;
/dev/hdc: Master of second IDE slot;
/dev/hdd: Slave of second IDE slot.

If you know this (that I believe so, since you could install Debian). You may
try to mount your cd-rom by using the device name, as in

mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdb /mnt/cdrom

This mounts my cdrom on the /mnt/cdrom directory.

If you can do this you may create a link /dev/cdrom to the real device using
the ls command.

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