RE: [Declude.JunkMail] External Tests

2004-09-01 Thread Kevin Bilbee
Here is alos another test for Ip addresses in the HELO but it should use
less resources it has declude pass the helo string as it see it so it will
honor you hop settings

http://www.ssc-isp.net/HoldAnalyzer/containsip.aspx


Kevin Bilbee

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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Scott Fisher
> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 3:12 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] External Tests
>
>
> HeloISIP look at this link:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg17874.html
>
> I use:
> HELOCONTAINSIPexternalnonzero
> "D:\imail\declude\heloisip\heloisip.exe"  30 0
>
>
> Scott Fisher
> Director of IT
> Farm Progress Companies
>
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/01/04 04:53PM >>>
> I see on the spamchk public site that there is an external test listed
> as sniffer-snake. I am assuming that the sniffer portion is the message
> sniffer from Sort Monster (if I am wrong let me know), but I don't know
> what the snake part is.  I also saw a test called HELOISIP.  Does anyone
> have any info on these tests?
>
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] External Tests

2004-09-01 Thread Pete McNeil
On Wednesday, September 1, 2004, 5:53:07 PM, Danny wrote:

DS> I see on the spamchk public site that there is an
DS> externaltest listed as sniffer-snake. I am assuming that the
DS> sniffer portion is themessage sniffer from Sort Monster (if I am
DS> wrong let me know), but I don’tknow what the snake part is.  I

I think that SNIFFER-SNAKE captures the specific result code from
SNIFFER for "Snake-Oil".

All of the SNIFFER- tests are set up to capture specific result
codes. These graphs should be considered a subset of the general
SNIFFER graph which indicates the overall (nonzero) performance of
SNIFFER.

A reference to the SNIFFER result codes can be found here:

http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/ResultCodesHelp.html

DS> alsosaw a test called HELOISIP.  Doesanyone have any info on these
DS> tests?

I don't know a good answer for this at top of mind.
It's not the same as HELOBOGUS though.

_M



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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] External Tests

2004-09-01 Thread Scott Fisher
HeloISIP look at this link:
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg17874.html

I use:
HELOCONTAINSIP  externalnonzero "D:\imail\declude\heloisip\heloisip.exe"   
 30 0


Scott Fisher
Director of IT
Farm Progress Companies

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/01/04 04:53PM >>>
I see on the spamchk public site that there is an external test listed
as sniffer-snake. I am assuming that the sniffer portion is the message
sniffer from Sort Monster (if I am wrong let me know), but I don't know
what the snake part is.  I also saw a test called HELOISIP.  Does anyone
have any info on these tests?
 
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[Declude.JunkMail] External Tests

2004-09-01 Thread Danny Spence








I see on the spamchk public site that there is an external
test listed as sniffer-snake. I am assuming that the sniffer portion is the
message sniffer from Sort Monster (if I am wrong let me know), but I don’t
know what the snake part is.  I also
saw a test called HELOISIP.  Does
anyone have any info on these tests?

 

---

Danny Spence

 








RE: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS

2004-09-01 Thread R. Scott Perry

My DNS server is set up as a cashing server but non-local DNS requests
have to be forwarded somewhere, don't they?
No.  Forwarding is a feature that should normally be off by default.
The way that a caching DNS server works, it connects to the root servers 
and "drills down" until it reaches the DNS servers for a record that is 
being looked up.

Forwarding bypasses that, and instead goes to someone else's DNS 
server.  The advantage to this is that the lookup can be slightly quicker 
if the information is already cached.  But at about 500 bytes and 2 round 
trips per DNS lookup, it doesn't save that much time -- and can increase 
the amount of time (if the forwarding DNS server is slow) or lost packets 
or incorrect results (if the forwarding DNS server is flaky, or has oddball 
policies like Sprint/AT&T do).

One of the tabs in the DNS
server properties is "Forwards" to resolve non-local requests.  What do
I use instead of my T-1 provider for this?
You just leave it blank.  :)
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] [OT] .local domains

2004-09-01 Thread R. Scott Perry

As I was lurking on this list I noticed a thread "Question about
Exchange2Aliases" where .local was suggested as an example TLD.
.local should not be used.
RFC2606 specifies that aside from TLDs that have already been allocated 
(.com, .net, .museum, .info, .uk, etc.), it is also OK to use .test, 
.example, .invalid, and .localhost.  Also, 
example.com/example.net/example.org are OK to use.

If you have Mac OS X boxes on your network and you want to have them as 
members of a
Microsoft Active Directory Domain then you cannot use .local as this
extension is used by some OS X service (Rendezvous discovery service I
believe).  The TLD ".lan" seems to work and also connotes a "local" area
network.  We use .lan for our local DNS services required for Active
Directory.  This allows us to manage our local DNS zone "commarts.lan"
without affecting our internet DNS records (on our ISP's DNS servers).
FYI, both ".local" and ".lan" are invalid (and could cause problems now or 
in the future).  If they leak (appearing in E-mail headers, for example), 
there could be problems.  Or, if a TLD you choose becomes allocated in the 
future, you're going to encounter big problems.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS

2004-09-01 Thread Bill
Scott, 

My DNS server is set up as a cashing server but non-local DNS requests
have to be forwarded somewhere, don't they?  One of the tabs in the DNS
server properties is "Forwards" to resolve non-local requests.  What do
I use instead of my T-1 provider for this?

P.S. I tried turning off forwards and then only local DNS requests were
resolved.  

Thank,
Bill

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> 
> 
> >I am having a problem with my upstream DNS provider.  I have my own 
> >in-house DNS server but for non-local host DNS requests, they are 
> >forwarded to my T1 provider's DNS server
> >
> >What I was wondering is if there is a free or fee based outbound DNS 
> >provider?  Or is there a master DNS server that I should already be 
> >pointing to?
> 
> Why not just stop the forwarding to your T1 provider's DNS 
> server?  If your 
> DNS server has the option of acting as a caching DNS server, 
> you might as 
> well just use your own -- that way you don't have to rely on 
> someone else's.
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[Declude.JunkMail] [OT] .local domains

2004-09-01 Thread Michael Hoyt
As I was lurking on this list I noticed a thread "Question about
Exchange2Aliases" where .local was suggested as an example TLD.  If you have
Mac OS X boxes on your network and you want to have them as members of a
Microsoft Active Directory Domain then you cannot use .local as this
extension is used by some OS X service (Rendezvous discovery service I
believe).  The TLD ".lan" seems to work and also connotes a "local" area
network.  We use .lan for our local DNS services required for Active
Directory.  This allows us to manage our local DNS zone "commarts.lan"
without affecting our internet DNS records (on our ISP's DNS servers).

Also if anyone out there is attempting to join Mac OS X computers to a
Microsoft Active Directory Domain then check out ADMitMac from
www.thursby.com - it works well in our small office environment and is worth
the $ if you do not have the time to figure out the ins and outs of Active
Directory (which didn't work in the early releases of OS X but may work fine
now).

Michael Hoyt
Communication Arts
110 Constitution Drive
Menlo Park, CA  94025
(650) 326-6040  fax:(650) 326-1648

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SENDERDB oddity

2004-09-01 Thread Dave Doherty
duh...
You diagnosed it perfectly. Sorry!
-d

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Just looked at this again.  When I check this manually, it only comes back
with a single response: 127.0.0.2, which is the blacklist response code.
Dave, are you sure that you do not have 127.0.0.2 as the response code for
both the blacklist and the whitelist?  The whitelist should be looking for
127.0.0.3, and the suspicious list as 127.0.0.4.
Bill
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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SENDERDB oddity


Found on the same message:
X-RBL-Warning: SENDERDB-BLOCK: "Blocked - Please see
http://www.senderdb.com/lookup/lookupResults.asp?ipAddress=69.59.150.150";
X-RBL-Warning: SENDERDB-ALLOW: "Blocked - Please see
http://www.senderdb.com/lookup/lookupResults.asp?ipAddress=69.59.150.150";
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SENDERDB oddity

2004-09-01 Thread Dave Doherty
Thanks, Rick
-d
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Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 1:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SENDERDB oddity


not so odd
ServPath is large hosting company that would send alot of legit mail but 
also allows bulk mailing outfits, mostly "legit lists" but with bad 
databases.

I block their IP assignments outright, nothing but advertisement and junk 
email comes from these addresses. Have not seen any false positives from 
blacklisting these ranges but I admin a private company. You would be 
surprised how much junk comes from these two ranges.

REMOTEIP 0 CIDR 64.151.64.0/19
REMOTEIP 0 CIDR 69.59.128.0/18
Rick Davidson
National Systems Manager
North American Title Group
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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SENDERDB oddity


Found on the same message:
X-RBL-Warning: SENDERDB-BLOCK: "Blocked - Please see 
http://www.senderdb.com/lookup/lookupResults.asp?ipAddress=69.59.150.150";
X-RBL-Warning: SENDERDB-ALLOW: "Blocked - Please see 
http://www.senderdb.com/lookup/lookupResults.asp?ipAddress=69.59.150.150";

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SENDERDB oddity

2004-09-01 Thread Bill Landry
It is not listed on both, see my previous response to Dave about this.

Bill
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Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 10:54 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SENDERDB oddity


> I do find it odd that the SAME IP would be whitelisted AND blacklisted -
> which is it!?
>
> They need to tie the various databases against each other and eliminate
> duplicate/triplicate listings.
>
> Best Regards
> Andy Schmidt
>
> H&M Systems Software, Inc.
> 600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
> Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846
>
> Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
> Fax:+1 201 934-9206
>
> http://www.HM-Software.com/
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Davidson
> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 01:38 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SENDERDB oddity
>
>
> not so odd
>
> ServPath is large hosting company that would send alot of legit mail but
> also allows bulk mailing outfits, mostly "legit lists" but with bad
> databases.
>
> I block their IP assignments outright, nothing but advertisement and junk
> email comes from these addresses. Have not seen any false positives from
> blacklisting these ranges but I admin a private company. You would be
> surprised how much junk comes from these two ranges.
>
> REMOTEIP 0 CIDR 64.151.64.0/19
> REMOTEIP 0 CIDR 69.59.128.0/18
>
> Rick Davidson
> National Systems Manager
> North American Title Group
> -
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Dave Doherty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 1:05 PM
> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SENDERDB oddity
>
>
> > Found on the same message:
> >
> > X-RBL-Warning: SENDERDB-BLOCK: "Blocked - Please see
> >
http://www.senderdb.com/lookup/lookupResults.asp?ipAddress=69.59.150.150";
> > X-RBL-Warning: SENDERDB-ALLOW: "Blocked - Please see
> >
http://www.senderdb.com/lookup/lookupResults.asp?ipAddress=69.59.150.150";
> >
> > -d
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SENDERDB oddity

2004-09-01 Thread Bill Landry
Just looked at this again.  When I check this manually, it only comes back
with a single response: 127.0.0.2, which is the blacklist response code.
Dave, are you sure that you do not have 127.0.0.2 as the response code for
both the blacklist and the whitelist?  The whitelist should be looking for
127.0.0.3, and the suspicious list as 127.0.0.4.

Bill
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From: "Dave Doherty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 10:05 AM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SENDERDB oddity


> Found on the same message:
>
> X-RBL-Warning: SENDERDB-BLOCK: "Blocked - Please see
> http://www.senderdb.com/lookup/lookupResults.asp?ipAddress=69.59.150.150";
> X-RBL-Warning: SENDERDB-ALLOW: "Blocked - Please see
> http://www.senderdb.com/lookup/lookupResults.asp?ipAddress=69.59.150.150";
>
> -d
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SENDERDB oddity

2004-09-01 Thread Andy Schmidt
I do find it odd that the SAME IP would be whitelisted AND blacklisted -
which is it!?

They need to tie the various databases against each other and eliminate
duplicate/triplicate listings.

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

H&M Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Davidson
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 01:38 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SENDERDB oddity


not so odd

ServPath is large hosting company that would send alot of legit mail but 
also allows bulk mailing outfits, mostly "legit lists" but with bad 
databases.

I block their IP assignments outright, nothing but advertisement and junk 
email comes from these addresses. Have not seen any false positives from 
blacklisting these ranges but I admin a private company. You would be 
surprised how much junk comes from these two ranges.

REMOTEIP 0 CIDR 64.151.64.0/19
REMOTEIP 0 CIDR 69.59.128.0/18

Rick Davidson
National Systems Manager
North American Title Group
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From: "Dave Doherty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 1:05 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SENDERDB oddity


> Found on the same message:
>
> X-RBL-Warning: SENDERDB-BLOCK: "Blocked - Please see
> http://www.senderdb.com/lookup/lookupResults.asp?ipAddress=69.59.150.150";
> X-RBL-Warning: SENDERDB-ALLOW: "Blocked - Please see 
> http://www.senderdb.com/lookup/lookupResults.asp?ipAddress=69.59.150.150";
>
> -d
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SENDERDB oddity

2004-09-01 Thread Bill Landry
I forwarded this onto Solid Oak for review.

Bill
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From: "Dave Doherty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 10:05 AM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SENDERDB oddity


> Found on the same message:
>
> X-RBL-Warning: SENDERDB-BLOCK: "Blocked - Please see
> http://www.senderdb.com/lookup/lookupResults.asp?ipAddress=69.59.150.150";
> X-RBL-Warning: SENDERDB-ALLOW: "Blocked - Please see
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SENDERDB oddity

2004-09-01 Thread Rick Davidson
not so odd
ServPath is large hosting company that would send alot of legit mail but 
also allows bulk mailing outfits, mostly "legit lists" but with bad 
databases.

I block their IP assignments outright, nothing but advertisement and junk 
email comes from these addresses. Have not seen any false positives from 
blacklisting these ranges but I admin a private company. You would be 
surprised how much junk comes from these two ranges.

REMOTEIP 0 CIDR 64.151.64.0/19
REMOTEIP 0 CIDR 69.59.128.0/18
Rick Davidson
National Systems Manager
North American Title Group
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Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 1:05 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SENDERDB oddity


Found on the same message:
X-RBL-Warning: SENDERDB-BLOCK: "Blocked - Please see 
http://www.senderdb.com/lookup/lookupResults.asp?ipAddress=69.59.150.150";
X-RBL-Warning: SENDERDB-ALLOW: "Blocked - Please see 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hitting the CPU Wall

2004-09-01 Thread Goran Jovanovic
Yes the server also hosts mail and provides POP and Web mail access. Is
IMail efficient with these services or not?

I am using my own DNS server (ie the one in Windows on the same box).

 
 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe

 

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of support
> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 12:44 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hitting the CPU Wall
> 
> Do any of these servers provide pop/imap/webmail services.  We have a
> couple
> identical servers, but the ones that provide ancillary services tend
to
> consume more CPU.
> 
> For your type of volume it should be rare to see 25+ declude processes
> running at one time.  From my experience when I have seen this it
always
> pointed to a flaky or malfunctioning DNS server.  The other caveat is
> depending on how many and the type of body filters you have could
cause
> this.
> 
> Something does seem wrong if your driving the cpu at 100% with a
message
> volume of 2000 messages per hour with that type of box.   Again,
depending
> on your configuration of Declude this type of performance could be
> normal..
> 
>

> Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude
And
> Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, MRTG Integration, and
Log
> Parsers.
> 
> 
> Darrell
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Goran Jovanovic writes:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > I know that the answer to this question is a big "it depends" but I
am
> > trying to get a feel if I have the server mostly configured
correctly or
> > am I missing things.
> >
> > I have a 1.4 GHz Celeron CPU with 512MB RAM and a RAID 1 hard drive
> > system. We are pushing the CPU to 100% and close to 100% a lot of
the
> > time during core business hours. Declude log files report that we
are
> > processing 12 to 15 thousand messages a day. Based on a quick script
I
> > created I am seeing some hours where we are dealing with 2000
messages
> > in that hour. I have also looked at Task Manager and at times I see
20
> > to 25 Declude processes running concurrently.
> >
> > I have a number of BODY search filters that I am skipping if a
bypass
> > filter was triggered (for things like PDF attachments etc). I also
have
> > two AV scanners F-Prot and McAfee.
> >
> > So the question is: With this setup should I be able to a lot more
> > messages per hour/day or am I lucky that I am doing as many as I am.
> >
> > I would appreciate any thoughts/speculation etc
> >
> > Thanx
> >
> >
> >  Goran Jovanovic
> >  The LAN Shoppe
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hitting the CPU Wall

2004-09-01 Thread Goran Jovanovic
> That said, I've got an NT4, P2/450/256MRam box running F-Prot and
> Message Sniffer with software RAID1 that is holding it's own against
> 1000+ Messages Per hour... This makes it look like your 1.4Ghz/512MB
> system should be able to handle more.

Does your box provide Web and POP services as well or just store and
forward?


 
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 The LAN Shoppe

 


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[Declude.JunkMail] SENDERDB oddity

2004-09-01 Thread Dave Doherty
Found on the same message:
X-RBL-Warning: SENDERDB-BLOCK: "Blocked - Please see 
http://www.senderdb.com/lookup/lookupResults.asp?ipAddress=69.59.150.150";
X-RBL-Warning: SENDERDB-ALLOW: "Blocked - Please see 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hitting the CPU Wall

2004-09-01 Thread support
Do any of these servers provide pop/imap/webmail services.  We have a couple 
identical servers, but the ones that provide ancillary services tend to 
consume more CPU. 

For your type of volume it should be rare to see 25+ declude processes 
running at one time.  From my experience when I have seen this it always 
pointed to a flaky or malfunctioning DNS server.  The other caveat is 
depending on how many and the type of body filters you have could cause 
this. 

Something does seem wrong if your driving the cpu at 100% with a message 
volume of 2000 messages per hour with that type of box.   Again, depending 
on your configuration of Declude this type of performance could be normal.. 


Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And 
Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, MRTG Integration, and Log 
Parsers. 

Darrell 



Goran Jovanovic writes: 

Hi, 

I know that the answer to this question is a big "it depends" but I am
trying to get a feel if I have the server mostly configured correctly or
am I missing things. 

I have a 1.4 GHz Celeron CPU with 512MB RAM and a RAID 1 hard drive
system. We are pushing the CPU to 100% and close to 100% a lot of the
time during core business hours. Declude log files report that we are
processing 12 to 15 thousand messages a day. Based on a quick script I
created I am seeing some hours where we are dealing with 2000 messages
in that hour. I have also looked at Task Manager and at times I see 20
to 25 Declude processes running concurrently. 

I have a number of BODY search filters that I am skipping if a bypass
filter was triggered (for things like PDF attachments etc). I also have
two AV scanners F-Prot and McAfee. 

So the question is: With this setup should I be able to a lot more
messages per hour/day or am I lucky that I am doing as many as I am. 

I would appreciate any thoughts/speculation etc 

Thanx 

 
 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe 

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hitting the CPU Wall

2004-09-01 Thread Pete McNeil
On Wednesday, September 1, 2004, 11:30:56 AM, Goran wrote:



GJ> I have a 1.4 GHz Celeron CPU with 512MB RAM and a RAID 1 hard drive
GJ> system. We are pushing the CPU to 100% and close to 100% a lot of the
GJ> time during core business hours. Declude log files report that we are



GJ> So the question is: With this setup should I be able to a lot more
GJ> messages per hour/day or am I lucky that I am doing as many as I am.

Based on bouncing off of 100% cpu usage frequently, and with the
qualified "it depends" I think you might not want to push this much
further.

That said, I've got an NT4, P2/450/256MRam box running F-Prot and
Message Sniffer with software RAID1 that is holding it's own against
1000+ Messages Per hour... This makes it look like your 1.4Ghz/512MB
system should be able to handle more.

-- hrm... be careful what you wish for, you might get it: thoughts and
speculation ;-)

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[Declude.JunkMail] Hitting the CPU Wall

2004-09-01 Thread Goran Jovanovic
Hi,

I know that the answer to this question is a big "it depends" but I am
trying to get a feel if I have the server mostly configured correctly or
am I missing things.

I have a 1.4 GHz Celeron CPU with 512MB RAM and a RAID 1 hard drive
system. We are pushing the CPU to 100% and close to 100% a lot of the
time during core business hours. Declude log files report that we are
processing 12 to 15 thousand messages a day. Based on a quick script I
created I am seeing some hours where we are dealing with 2000 messages
in that hour. I have also looked at Task Manager and at times I see 20
to 25 Declude processes running concurrently.

I have a number of BODY search filters that I am skipping if a bypass
filter was triggered (for things like PDF attachments etc). I also have
two AV scanners F-Prot and McAfee.

So the question is: With this setup should I be able to a lot more
messages per hour/day or am I lucky that I am doing as many as I am.

I would appreciate any thoughts/speculation etc

Thanx

 
 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS

2004-09-01 Thread Goran Jovanovic
I have heard that getting a Windows DNS to look to the root servers is
not the smartest thing to do since it does not work well. I do not know
if this is true so I have always used forwarders.

Are there any special tricks or setup rules you use to get the server to
go to the root servers or do you just use the MS defaults?

Thanx


 
 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe

 

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fritz Squib
> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 7:57 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS
> 
> Set up your own caching DNS server, don't rely on your upstream
provider.
> 
> I made the mistake of using forwarders back before I new better,
Sprint
> shut
> me down one time because I was hammering on them with spam database
> lookups.
> 
> Fritz
> 
> Frederick P. Squib, Jr.
> Network Operations/Mail Administrator
> Citizens Telephone Company of Kecksburg
> http://www.wpa.net
> 
> ()  ascii ribbon campaign - against html mail
> /\- against microsoft attachments
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Morgan
(by
> way
> of "R. Scott Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 6:51 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I am having a problem with my upstream DNS provider.  I have my own
in-
> house
> DNS server but for non-local host DNS requests, they are forwarded to
my
> T1
> provider's DNS server.  The problem is that their server has become
> unreliable.  Their server usually does not go down completely but just
> slows
> down.  Most of the time I don't know there is a problem until someone
> calls
> me to complain about delayed or returned e-mail (and then I may find
> several
> thousand messaged in my overflow folder).
> 
> What I was wondering is if there is a free or fee based outbound DNS
> provider?  Or is there a master DNS server that I should already be
> pointing
> to?
> 
> Thanks for any advise that you can provide.
> 
> Bill
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