RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 4.3.x and 3.1.x planned release

2006-09-19 Thread David Barker
No,  NONSTANDARDHDR is only needed in the virus.cfg if you want to turn this
vulnerability test off.

David B
www.declude.com

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike
Wiegers
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 10:32 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 4.3.x and 3.1.x planned release

I didn't notice a reply to this. Do you need to add the NONSTANDARDHDR test
to the config file?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary
Steiner
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 12:11 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 4.3.x and 3.1.x planned release

David,

Is the NONSTANDARDHDR test on by default, or do you need to add it to your
virus.cfg file?  I've been running every version since 4.2.20, and I have
never seen a message with a broken header moved to my \virus folder.

Gary



 Original Message 
 From: David Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 11:42 AM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 4.3.x and 3.1.x planned release
 
 Dave,
 
 We had implemented a fix for the broken image spam, in 4.2.20 
 
 New NONSTANDARDHDR vulnerability test. Messages found to have broken
headers
 are moved to the \virus folder
 
 I do know of reports of broken headers still happening and we are 
 re-evaluating this test to see if we can make it better. If you are
running
 4.2.20 or later and are still having problems with the broken images 
 could you please send examples to support so we could look at them.
 
 Thanks
 David B.
 www.declude.com
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Dave Beckstrom
 Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 11:14 AM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 4.3.x and 3.1.x planned release
 
 Still no fix for the broken image spam? 
 
 
 
 
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  David Barker
  Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 7:59 AM
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com; declude.virus@declude.com
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] 4.3.x and 3.1.x planned release
  
  The following items are being tested for Target Date release: 27 
  September
  2006
  
  4.3.x
  --
  
  DEC FIX On occasion ZEROHOUR initialized two overlaping threads
  causing decludeproc crash
  
  JM  FIX IPBYPASS now takes place before WHITELIST
  
  JM  FIX X-COUNTRYCHAIN log entry no longer truncated
  
  JM  FIX DELETE_RECIPIENT removes the specified email address as
  per-user action only
  
  JM  FIX With HOLD if extra space after %DATE% incorrect behaviour
  was observed this is not been normalized
  
  HI  FIX CONCATENATELOGS with KEEPINDIVIDUALLOGS works correctly
  
  JM  ADD BANCHARSET defined in the declude.cfg quarentines listed
  character sets
  
  EVA ADD With AVAFTERJM ON the JM Log displays message moved to virus
  folder
  
  3.1.x
  --
  
  JM  FIX IPBYPASS now takes place before WHITELIST
  
  JM  FIX X-COUNTRYCHAIN log entry no longer truncated
  
  JM  FIX DELETE_RECIPIENT removes the specified email address as
  per-user action only
  
  JM  FIX With HOLD if extra space after %DATE% incorrect behaviour
  was observed this is not been normalized
  
  JM  FIX Declude crash fix. Buffer Overflow reading the From:
line in
  the Headers
  
  HI  FIX CONCATENATELOGS with KEEPINDIVIDUALLOGS works correctly
  
  SM  ADD Decludeproc will not start without a valid
domainlist.xml
  
  In addition to bug fixes we are also working on wishlist items that 
  we
 have
  received regarding new tests. If you have any ideas of new tests you 
  would like to see implemented please email your thoughts to me 
  directly [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  Thanks
  David B
  www.declude.com
  
  
  
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Way to filter bogus FRMOM domains ?

2006-09-19 Thread IS - Systems Eng. \(Karl Drugge\)
I was using a FROMFILE, subtracting a fairly large amount, and was
getting stuff past it with from the forging domains. Obviously, not the
best way to do it, but it worked well for the past few years.

I've got a two new files using the suggestions from yesterday, one for
GOOD-REVDNS adding a negative value, and one for BAD-REVDNS adding a
good amount of points. Makes for better readability in the headers.

Is there another test that compares the REVDNS and Sender's domain to
check for a match ? Like the SPAMDOMAINS test without having to make a
text file ? Not a killer test, but definitely worth a few points.

Karl Drugge
 
 
 
 
 
 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 5:18 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Way to filter bogus FRMOM domains ?

You didnt mention exactly on how you are letting in .gov, .us, .edu?
Are 
you just checking via a fromfile or whitelist?  If so I would shift that
to 
negative weighting on reverse dns. 

REVDNS -x  endswith .edu 

If you have to let it in - seem like the revdns might be a better fit. 

Darrell
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IS - Systems Eng. (Karl Drugge) writes: 

 I've been trying to filter some SPAM that is using a false FROM
domain.
 Stuff is coming from overseas ( spammachine.spamsite.spammer.pl
 [99.99.99.99] ), but is using a false from domain, such as (
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ).  
 
 This stuff would fail, except DECLUDE shows it as coming from a .edu,
 and clears it ( assigns the appropriate negative value, I should say
).
 Now, for reasons I won't go into here, I HAVE to allow all mail from
 .edu domains, as well as .gov, and .us... I can't bounce it, and I
have
 no other way to pre-allow email from some junior college in upper
 southern north Dakota... 
 
 Any help on this ? 
 
 Karl Drugge
  
  
  
  
  
  
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Colbeck, Andrew
 Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 12:33 PM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Disk pattern 0xDF in files -
 Microsoft confirms KB920958 bug! 
 
 And it made its appearance over at the SANS Internet Storm Center
 handler's log: 
 
 http://isc.sans.org/diary.php?storyid=1711 
 
 In short, Microsoft has admitted that there is a problem and updated
 their advisory and also provided a hotfix. 
 
 Andrew. 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of Heimir Eidskrem
 Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 7:16 AM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Disk pattern 0xDF in 
 files - Microsoft confirms KB920958 bug! 
 
 Andy, 
 
 Not sure if you saw it but this issue was brought up on 
 Slashdot yesterday, so it got some exposure. 
 
 Heimir 
 
 
 Andy Schmidt wrote:
   
  Hi,
 
  I finally was able to get a confirmation from Microsoft Support 
  yesterday afternoon (case: SRZ060911001854)
 
  We are aware the issue you are experiencing. A 
 corresponding bugcheck 
  request is currently open, and the develop team is working 
 on this issue.
  However, the hotfix for this issue is not ready.
 
  0xDF is the data pattern that NTFS returns when it has problem to 
  decompress the file (eg. the compression fragments are 
 corrupted and 
  can't be decompressed). Based on my research, the actual 
 raw data on 
  the disk is not changed, it shows as 0xDF because the system cannot

  decompress the file and display the data correctly. So the 
 corrupt is not permanent.
 
  Further more, the issue only occurs on files which containing 
  Hexadecimal codes.
 
  Apparently, Microsoft decided not to warn people about this 
 problem - 
  no comment has been added to KF920958 warning people which system 
  configurations will cause data loss (who cares if it's not 
 permanent 
  if you can't use your data for a few months).
 
  Best Regards
  Andy Schmidt
 
  Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
  Fax:+1 201 934-9206 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

  Heimir Eidskrem
  Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 03:21 PM
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Disk pattern 0xDF in files - 
  KB920958 may be bad!
 
  Answers below.
 
  Andy Schmidt wrote:

  Hi Heimir:
 
  I've been running a number of tests, am in contact with a third 
  Microsoft customer and some pattern seems to emerge. I also have a

  lead to a questionable Hotfix, but I'm trying to qualify 
 that first.
 
  Can we first compare your systems to see what's the same 
 (and may be
  relevant) and what's different:
 
  A) 

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] California Regional Intranet

2006-09-19 Thread Chuck Schick
Title: Message



We 
don't block there IPs but we do have them on a high weight.

I have 
seen nothing but spam come out of there.


Chuck SchickWarp 8, 
Inc.(303)-421-5140www.warp8.com 

  
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  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin 
  BilbeeSent: Monday, September 18, 2006 2:28 PMTo: 
  declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] California 
  Regional Intranet
  
  This IPS seems to be very friendly with the Spammers. 
  
  
  
  What are your thoughts about blocking their entire assigned 
  IP range??
  
  Kevin 
  BilbeeNetwork AdministratorStandard Abrasives, 
  Inc.[EMAIL PROTECTED]Changing 
  the way industry works. 
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[Declude.JunkMail] Spam Spike

2006-09-19 Thread Chris Anton
Hi All,
We have recently gone from processing 30,000 emails daily to 85,000 daily.  
75,000 are getting caught by Declude  Message Sniffer (I love this combo). 
There are a total of 300,000 attempted RCPT TOs daily.

1) Has anyone experienced recent spikes like this? How can I reasonably handle 
this?

I have run several analytics and found that these emails are not targeting a 
specific user or specific domain.  Additionally, there are no blocks of IPs 
that are responsible.

2) What are the realistic limits of Imail / Declude / Message Sniffer (I KNOW 
this is platform specific, just looking for ballpark).

3) What can I do to squeze out more juice from this server?

Software: IMail 8.22 (because we are still scared of 2006), Declude Virus and 
Junkmail 2.0.6, and Sniffer most recent version
Hardware: Windows Server 2003 box with a 3 ghz XEON, and 1 Gig ram.  

Thanks for the help! -Chris



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Web Solutions, Inc.
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] California Regional Intranet

2006-09-19 Thread Kim Premuda
-- Original Message --
From: Kevin Bilbee [EMAIL PROTECTED]

This IPS seems to be very friendly with the Spammers. 

What are your thoughts about blocking their entire assigned IP range??


California Regional Intranet, Inc. is a San Diego, CA based ISP (www.cari.net). 
We have received nothing but spam from their network within the following two 
CIDRs:

   CIDR: 71.6.128.0/19
   CIDR: 209.126.128.0/17

Consequently, we block these CIDRs in Imail (not Declude).

I hope this helps!

Kim W. Premuda
FastWave Internet Services
San Diego, CA


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam Spike

2006-09-19 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Comment's inline, 

Darrell 

Chris Anton writes: 


1) Has anyone experienced recent spikes like this? How can I reasonably handle 
this?


Yes, we have very often see signifigant swings in spam.  How to handle it is 
a good question.  That typically depends on what the spam campaign is.  We 
have found recipient address validation helps the most.  We than do analysis 
(using DLAnalyzer IP reports) and find the IP addresses who send the most 
spam and block those. 




I have run several analytics and found that these emails are not targeting  a 
specific user or specific domain.  Additionally, there are no blocks of  IPs that 
are responsible.


Is it spam going to valid users?  Or just your generic dictionary attacks? 




2) What are the realistic limits of Imail / Declude / Message Sniffer (I KNOW 
this is platform specific, just looking for ballpark).
3) What can I do to squeze out more juice from this server?
Software: IMail 8.22 (because we are still scared of 2006), Declude Virus and 
Junkmail 2.0.6, and Sniffer most recent version
Hardware: Windows Server 2003 box with a 3 ghz XEON, and 1 Gig ram.  


On some of the server I maintain we are doing 150K messages a day on a dual 
xeon 2.6ghz.  With no issues (invURIBL, Sniffer). 

What is your current CPU usage like? 

Darrell 


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam Spike

2006-09-19 Thread Craig Edmonds
 
Hi Chris,

You should also consider using declude hijack even though that only catches
spammers using the smtp server. It only takes 1 idiot client to make the
password easy to guess and bang, spammer sits and uses your server without
you really knowing until you get blacklisted. 

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
W: www.123marbella.com
E : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 7:36 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam Spike

Comment's inline, 

Darrell 

Chris Anton writes: 

 1) Has anyone experienced recent spikes like this? How can I reasonably
handle this?

Yes, we have very often see signifigant swings in spam.  How to handle it is
a good question.  That typically depends on what the spam campaign is.  We
have found recipient address validation helps the most.  We than do analysis
(using DLAnalyzer IP reports) and find the IP addresses who send the most
spam and block those. 


 I have run several analytics and found that these emails are not targeting
 a specific user or specific domain.  Additionally, there are no blocks of
 IPs that are responsible.

Is it spam going to valid users?  Or just your generic dictionary attacks? 


 2) What are the realistic limits of Imail / Declude / Message Sniffer (I
KNOW this is platform specific, just looking for ballpark).
 3) What can I do to squeze out more juice from this server?
 Software: IMail 8.22 (because we are still scared of 2006), Declude 
 Virus and Junkmail 2.0.6, and Sniffer most recent version
 Hardware: Windows Server 2003 box with a 3 ghz XEON, and 1 Gig ram.  

On some of the server I maintain we are doing 150K messages a day on a dual
xeon 2.6ghz.  With no issues (invURIBL, Sniffer). 

What is your current CPU usage like? 

Darrell 

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam Spike

2006-09-19 Thread Chris Anton
Darrell, We are averaging 40 to 50% on the processor.  I was just surprised 
because in 3 years we haven't seen a spike this large.  Most of them are 
dictionary style.  But since they aren't from the same IP, I don't think the 
imail 2006 dictionary feature would help us. Thoughts?


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam Spike

2006-09-19 Thread Scott Fisher

I say about 25% more spam yesterday than last Monday (9-11)

- Original Message - 
From: Chris Anton [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 11:31 AM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam Spike



Hi All,
We have recently gone from processing 30,000 emails daily to 85,000 daily. 
75,000 are getting caught by Declude  Message Sniffer (I love this 
combo). There are a total of 300,000 attempted RCPT TOs daily.


1) Has anyone experienced recent spikes like this? How can I reasonably 
handle this?


I have run several analytics and found that these emails are not targeting 
a specific user or specific domain.  Additionally, there are no blocks of 
IPs that are responsible.


2) What are the realistic limits of Imail / Declude / Message Sniffer (I 
KNOW this is platform specific, just looking for ballpark).


3) What can I do to squeze out more juice from this server?

Software: IMail 8.22 (because we are still scared of 2006), Declude Virus 
and Junkmail 2.0.6, and Sniffer most recent version

Hardware: Windows Server 2003 box with a 3 ghz XEON, and 1 Gig ram.

Thanks for the help! -Chris



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Web Solutions, Inc.
Tel: 203-235- x25
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] California Regional Intranet

2006-09-19 Thread xx-xx- --x--x
Declude's gateway software ships with an automated block list. Default is 3 mail from the same IP with a weight of 40 blocks the IP for 14 days. On 9/19/06, 
Kim Premuda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
-- Original Message --From: Kevin Bilbee [EMAIL PROTECTED]This IPS seems to be very friendly with the Spammers.
What are your thoughts about blocking their entire assigned IP range??California Regional Intranet, Inc. is a San Diego, CA based ISP (www.cari.net). We have received nothing but spam from their network within the following two CIDRs:
 CIDR: 71.6.128.0/19 CIDR: 209.126.128.0/17Consequently, we block these CIDRs in Imail (not Declude).I hope this helps!
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam Spike

2006-09-19 Thread IS - Systems Eng. \(Karl Drugge\)
Getting pelted here... Mostly from cinci.rr.com...

Karl Drugge
 
 
 
 
 
 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Scott Fisher
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 2:29 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam Spike

I say about 25% more spam yesterday than last Monday (9-11)

- Original Message - 
From: Chris Anton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 11:31 AM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam Spike


 Hi All,
 We have recently gone from processing 30,000 emails daily to 85,000
daily. 
 75,000 are getting caught by Declude  Message Sniffer (I love this 
 combo). There are a total of 300,000 attempted RCPT TOs daily.

 1) Has anyone experienced recent spikes like this? How can I
reasonably 
 handle this?

 I have run several analytics and found that these emails are not
targeting 
 a specific user or specific domain.  Additionally, there are no blocks
of 
 IPs that are responsible.

 2) What are the realistic limits of Imail / Declude / Message Sniffer
(I 
 KNOW this is platform specific, just looking for ballpark).

 3) What can I do to squeze out more juice from this server?

 Software: IMail 8.22 (because we are still scared of 2006), Declude
Virus 
 and Junkmail 2.0.6, and Sniffer most recent version
 Hardware: Windows Server 2003 box with a 3 ghz XEON, and 1 Gig ram.

 Thanks for the help! -Chris



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 Chris Anton
 Web Solutions, Inc.
 Tel: 203-235- x25
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam Spike

2006-09-19 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Chris, 

Are the bulk of your users local to the server or gatewayed? 


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Chris Anton writes: 

Darrell, We are averaging 40 to 50% on the processor.  I was just surprised because in 3 years we haven't seen a spike this large.  Most of them are dictionary style.  But since they aren't from the same IP, I don't think the imail 2006 dictionary feature would help us. Thoughts? 



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[Declude.JunkMail] ASSP

2006-09-19 Thread Don Brown
There were a couple of recent posts from folks who had recently
implemented ASSP. We have to do the same due to the vulnerability in
Imail 8.22.

I'd appreciate any comments, suggestions, etc.  OFF LIST, from those
who have already fell in the holes, etc.

Thanks,



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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam Spike

2006-09-19 Thread Chris Anton
Hi Darrell, 80% of our users are local, 10% are Gatewayed, 10% are remote. The 
85,000 daily are inbound. -Chris


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] ASSP

2006-09-19 Thread Harry Vanderzand
I am interested in this also.  Maybe it can be on list?

Harry Vanderzand 
inTown Internet  Computer Services 
519-741-1222


 

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 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] ASSP
 
 There were a couple of recent posts from folks who had 
 recently implemented ASSP. We have to do the same due to the 
 vulnerability in Imail 8.22.
 
 I'd appreciate any comments, suggestions, etc.  OFF LIST, 
 from those who have already fell in the holes, etc.
 
 Thanks,
 
 
 
 Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc.
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] ASSP

2006-09-19 Thread xx-xx- --x--x
Maybe you should run your assp gateway against the Declude interceptorOn 9/19/06, Harry Vanderzand [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 from those who have already fell in the holes, etc. Thanks,  Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] ASSP

2006-09-19 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])
To the best of my knowledge Declude Interceptor is really no different than 
the regular version of Declude packaged into a gateway.  The real benefit of 
Interceptor is that you are no longer coupled to Imail/Smartermail in the 
gateway environment. 

From my testing you had all of the same files under the Declude folder 
(global.cfg, virus.cfg, declude.cfg, etc).  They have a very nice web 
interface for managing the product.  Having the option to have Declude not 
bundled with Imail or Smartermail is nice.  However, I did not see any real 
difference with the products. 

David - What is new in Interceptor that I may have missed compared to the 
version of Declude we run under Imail\Smartermail. 


Darrell
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mxGuard, and ORF.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI 
integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. 




xx-xx- --x--x writes: 

Maybe you should run your assp gateway against the Declude interceptor 


On 9/19/06, Harry Vanderzand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I am interested in this also.  Maybe it can be on list? 


Harry Vanderzand
inTown Internet  Computer Services
519-741-1222 

 



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Don Brown
 Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 3:03 PM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] ASSP

 There were a couple of recent posts from folks who had
 recently implemented ASSP. We have to do the same due to the
 vulnerability in Imail 8.22.

 I'd appreciate any comments, suggestions, etc.  OFF LIST,
 from those who have already fell in the holes, etc.

 Thanks,


 
 Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.inetconcepts.net
 (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049
 



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[Declude.JunkMail] Spamcop blocked message but not blocked

2006-09-19 Thread Panda Consulting S.A. Luis Alberto Arango
 
Today I found this in a message (declude logs)

Msg failed SPAMCOP (Blocked - see
http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?216.9.248.51;

I verified why was this address blocked and found out that Spamcop site says
216.9.248.51 not listed in bl.spamcop.net Verification was done 5 hours
after the blocked message was received.

IP belongs to one of the Blackberry's smtp servers.

Any ideas? Could an address be removed within few hours?.

Any ideas? Is Spamcop failing or this is common?

Luis




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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] ASSP

2006-09-19 Thread Jay Sudowski - Handy Networks LLC
The only real difference is COST!!!  $12,500 for more than 5,000 users -
PER YEAR.  Wowza ... 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 5:27 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] ASSP

To the best of my knowledge Declude Interceptor is really no different
than 
the regular version of Declude packaged into a gateway.  The real
benefit of 
Interceptor is that you are no longer coupled to Imail/Smartermail in
the 
gateway environment. 

 From my testing you had all of the same files under the Declude folder 
(global.cfg, virus.cfg, declude.cfg, etc).  They have a very nice web 
interface for managing the product.  Having the option to have Declude
not 
bundled with Imail or Smartermail is nice.  However, I did not see any
real 
difference with the products. 

David - What is new in Interceptor that I may have missed compared to
the 
version of Declude we run under Imail\Smartermail. 

Darrell
 ---
Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude,
Imail, 
mxGuard, and ORF.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI 
integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. 

 

xx-xx- --x--x writes: 

 Maybe you should run your assp gateway against the Declude interceptor

 
 On 9/19/06, Harry Vanderzand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I am interested in this also.  Maybe it can be on list? 
 
 Harry Vanderzand
 inTown Internet  Computer Services
 519-741-1222 
 
  
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of Don Brown
  Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 3:03 PM
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] ASSP
 
  There were a couple of recent posts from folks who had
  recently implemented ASSP. We have to do the same due to the
  vulnerability in Imail 8.22.
 
  I'd appreciate any comments, suggestions, etc.  OFF LIST,
  from those who have already fell in the holes, etc.
 
  Thanks,
 
 
  
  Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc.
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.inetconcepts.net
  (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049
  
 
 
 
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