Re: [Declude.Virus] hmmm... F-prot error 8?

2002-11-13 Thread Mike Nice
I've seen this with F-prot on:

  1.  New viruses in which F-prot spots suspicious characteristics but
doesn't match any signature because the definition file is not yet updated.

  2.)  An impotent KAK signature  - the object ID is in the HTML message,
but no payload.  The sender removed most, but not all the KAK infection on
the computer.   The message has no virus and can be released  and/or the
sender notified.

  3.)  Known "Joke programs" which large company network admins don't want
in their network - after all, who wants their users in the habit of running
.EXEs they receive from others?   They are considered safe, and residential
class  internet users may expect to receive these.


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> What types of files would get identified as "suspicious" with this option?


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Re: [Declude.Virus] hmmm... F-prot error 8?

2002-11-13 Thread R. Scott Perry


What types of files would get identified as "suspicious" with this option?


You would have to check with F-Prot to be sure.  The only case I know about 
was actually a mistake, where there was a new virus that they added to the 
virus definitions, but it was marked as a suspicious file instead of a 
virus.  With a suspicious file, F-Prot doesn't know the name of it, so it 
must look for patterns that are common in other viruses.

   -Scott
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Re: [Declude.Virus] hmmm... F-prot error 8?

2002-11-13 Thread Bill B
What types of files would get identified as "suspicious" with this option?

Bill


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Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] hmmm... F-prot error 8?



>After setting my Log to MID, I was going through it to see what is being
>caught, here is a piece of the log, what does this mean?

>11/13/2002 13:10:34 Q92091be000fa9508 Could not find parse string 
>Infection: in report.txt
>11/13/2002 13:10:34 Q92091be000fa9508 Error 8 in virus scanner.
>11/13/2002 13:10:34 Q92091be000fa9508 Scanned: Error in virus scanner. 
>[MIME: 2 9829]

That actually isn't related to the LOGLEVEL MID.

It means that your virus scanner returned an exit code of 8, which doesn't 
mean that the E-mail has a virus, and doesn't mean that it is virus 
free.  Declude Virus will deliver such E-mails, assuming that the virus 
scanner reported an unknown error.  In the case of F-Prot, this is a 
"suspicious file".  If you want to treat suspicious files as viruses (and 
are using F-Prot), you can add a line "VIRUSCODE 8" to the 
\IMail\Declude\virus.cfg file.
 -Scott

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Re: [Declude.Virus] Current Version of Declude

2002-11-13 Thread Webmaster Oilfield Directory
LOL! you kill me. i think he got the pointhopefully

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>
> >Not to beat a dead horse to death but what is the current version?
>
> The dead horse can be found at http://www.declude.com/virus/manual.htm
> .  You may want to bookmark that URL.  :)
>
> >What changes have been made since 1.53 ...
>
> http://www.declude.com/virus/manual.htm has a link to the release notes,
at
> http://www.declude.com/relnotes.htm .
>
>  >and where can I get it?
>
> http://www.declude.com/virus/manual.htm.
>
> >Is there a magic link?
>
> Yes -- http://www.declude.com/virus/manual.htm .  :)
>  -Scott
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Current Version of Declude

2002-11-13 Thread Rick Leske
Scott you are Awesome! One of the many reasons why our company enjoys doing
business with you and Declude.

Thanks!

~Rick

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>
> >Not to beat a dead horse to death but what is the current version?
>
> The dead horse can be found at http://www.declude.com/virus/manual.htm
> .  You may want to bookmark that URL.  :)
>
> >What changes have been made since 1.53 ...
>
> http://www.declude.com/virus/manual.htm has a link to the release
> notes, at
> http://www.declude.com/relnotes.htm .
>
>  >and where can I get it?
>
> http://www.declude.com/virus/manual.htm.
>
> >Is there a magic link?
>
> Yes -- http://www.declude.com/virus/manual.htm .  :)
>  -Scott
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Computer hackers mass-mailing trojans

2002-11-13 Thread R. Scott Perry


Also, I started catching "Outlook 'MIME segment in MIME Preamble'
Vulnerability" messages overnight, so this trojan may be getting caught by
that also.

Scott, yes/no?


It's quite possible.  I haven't seen any samples of these yet, so I can't 
say for certain.

If you want, you can send one of the messages that was caught to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED], and I can take a look at it.
-Scott

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Re: [Declude.Virus] F-prot question

2002-11-13 Thread R. Scott Perry


Is the ability there for F-prot to give you the NAME of the virus in the
log? instead of "Infected with a virus."? We have the Windows version
running.


If you use "LOGLEVEL MID" (in the \IMail\Declude\virus.cfg file), Declude 
will report the virus name in the log file.

Does F-Prot keep a log of useage by Declude with infections? I'd like to
get some feel for what is coming in.


Unfortunately, that isn't possible.  The problem is that F-Prot does record 
a log file, but Declude Virus needs the information from it, which means 
that it has to be saved in the temporary directory that Declude scans 
in.  Once Declude is finished scanning the E-mail, the temporary files are 
deleted.
 -Scott

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RE: [Declude.Virus] Computer hackers mass-mailing trojans

2002-11-13 Thread John Tolmachoff
Also, I started catching "Outlook 'MIME segment in MIME Preamble'
Vulnerability" messages overnight, so this trojan may be getting caught by
that also.

Scott, yes/no?

This is also known as Troj/Dloader-BO.

http://www.sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/trojdloaderbo.html


John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Computer hackers mass-mailing trojans

2002-11-13 Thread John Tolmachoff
It was posted on the Imail list also.

The payload is in an .exe attachment.

Thus, every one is safe until all the AV companies come out with updated
definitions because we all block unsafe attachments, right?

John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
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[Declude.Virus] Computer hackers mass-mailing trojans

2002-11-13 Thread Kami Razvan
Title: Message



Hi;
Has anyone seen 
this?
 
http://www.messagelabs.com/viewNewsPR.asp?id=109&cmd=PR
 


MessageLabs is currently intercepting hackers who 
are mass-mailing trojans to unsuspecting users.  The spread of this new 
threat suggests that infected machines could potentially be used in some kind of 
large-scale coordinated Internet hacking activity
The details of the trojan are as follows:
 

  
  

  
Trojan name: Maz 
Aliases:  W32/Maz.A, 
Downloader-BO 
Number of copies seen so far: 615 

Time & Date first Captured: 10 
Nov 2002, 14:58 GMT 
Origin of first intercepted copy: UK 

Number of countries seen active: 32 

Top five most active countries: 
United States   60.7%Canada   9.3%Korea (South)5.0%Great Britain3.2%Mexico   2.1%
=
 
Regards,
Kami
 


RE: [Declude.Virus] Current Version of Declude

2002-11-13 Thread John Tolmachoff
Running 1.62i beta interm here.

John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
www.reliancesoft.com



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[Declude.Virus] F-prot question

2002-11-13 Thread paul
Scott,
Is the ability there for F-prot to give you the NAME of the virus in the
log? instead of "Infected with a virus."? We have the Windows version
running.

Does F-Prot keep a log of useage by Declude with infections? I'd like to
get some feel for what is coming in.

Thanks!

Paul



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RE: [Declude.Virus] Log Files

2002-11-13 Thread Doug McKee
Great tip Scott.
Thanks,
Doug

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>I have my logging set to LOW but my log files are still about 40-50Mb
>per day. We do process about 100K emails.
>What is the appropriate way to handle such a volume of info and not
>spend all day doing it?

One option would be to use the "LOG_OK NONE" option -- if you add that
line 
to the \IMail\Declude\virus.cfg file, it will prevent log file entries
from 
occurring on E-mail that is virus-free.
 -Scott

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Re: [Declude.Virus] Log Files

2002-11-13 Thread R. Scott Perry


I have my logging set to LOW but my log files are still about 40-50Mb
per day. We do process about 100K emails.
What is the appropriate way to handle such a volume of info and not
spend all day doing it?


One option would be to use the "LOG_OK NONE" option -- if you add that line 
to the \IMail\Declude\virus.cfg file, it will prevent log file entries from 
occurring on E-mail that is virus-free.
-Scott

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[Declude.Virus] Log Files

2002-11-13 Thread Doug McKee


I have my logging set to LOW but my log files are still about 40-50Mb
per day. We do process about 100K emails.
What is the appropriate way to handle such a volume of info and not
spend all day doing it?
Thanks,
Doug


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