Re: [Declude.Virus] IpSwitch Collaboration Suite Yearly renewal costs up to $4995 per server per year
I got this in email today... Dear Customer: We are pleased to announce that IMail Service Agreements are available again. As an IMail Server customer, you may continue to purchase or renew IMail Service Agreements as you need them. Since IMail Server is at the core of our new Ipswitch Collaboration Suite, you can be confident that IMail Server will continue to be supported and developed. IMail Service Agreements are available immediately through Ipswitch (online or via phone at 781-676-5700) and through our worldwide reseller network. To purchase online, visit our Web site: IMail Professional Service Agreements: http://visit.ipswitch.com/renew01 IMail Small Business Service Agreements: http://visit.ipswitch.com/renew02 You may be asked for your serial number when you purchase. It is IP-00298227 Please note that the price of the stand-alone Service Agreements will increase on December 1, 2004. IMail Professional Service Agreements will be $695 and IMail Small Business Service Agreements will be $375. Until December 1, the prices remain unchanged. IMail Professional Service Agreements are $495 and IMail Small Business Service Agreements are $249. The offer to purchase Ipswitch Collaboration Suite at special IMail Server customer prices is still in force. Visit http://visit.ipswitch.com/ICSonline for details. With Ipswitch Collaboration Suite, you continue to receive the benefits of IMail Server and also add Secure Instant Messaging, Shared Calendars and Contacts, and Anti-Virus Protection. Best regards, David Karp Senior Marketing Manager Ipswitch, Inc. - Original Message - From: Don Hickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 2:06 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] IpSwitch Collaboration Suite Yearly renewal costs up to $4995 per server per year We heard the exact same thing from them. Don - Original Message - From: Avolve Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 12:08 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] IpSwitch Collaboration Suite Yearly renewal costs up to $4995 per server per year I replied back by email to them about the ICS and the discontinuance of Imail and they called me via phone and let me know that they were now not going to be doing away with Imail, due to the outcry from their client base. Although they didn't say what the support costs were going to be. ;) Avolve Support Get High Speed Internet - Go Wireless ! http://www.avolvewireless.net -- Original Message -- From: Douglas Cohn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 19:37:08 -0500 These are not maintenance fees but cross grade. It's only 10 TIMES the cost of the current renewal for an Unlimited version of Imail. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.Virus] IpSwitch Collaboration Suite Yearly renewal costs up to $4995 per server per year
These are not maintenance fees but cross grade. It's only 10 TIMES the cost of the current renewal for an Unlimited version of Imail. HAHAHAHA We are dumping IMAIL within the next year. It is mopre than Exchange as far as I'm concerned. About triple the price for small in house corporate deveopers that use MSDN versions for their in house stuff. For ISPs you would have to be insane to use their crap. I mean come on. Imail was always crap but with Declude it sufficed. For these prices it is simply insane. There are plenty of products priced like the old Imail (and cheaper) and I am sure declude will be supporting one of them shortly if not already. Plus the alternates I have seen are definitely better than Imail (but that is not saying much really) DC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Matuska Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 5:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] IpSwitch Collaboration Suite Yearly renewal costs up to $4995 per server per year FYI for anyone who is contemplating going to the new version of Ipswitch's collaboration suite it looks like their yearly renewal prices are going to be about as much as the initial upgrade costs, I received the below email from IPswitch. It has been a bit since IpSwitch made their announcements re the collaboration suite, what is everyone else doing in regard to this? I am still up in the air here, but leaning further and further away from IPswitch I think. Jim Matuska Jr. Computer Tech II CCNA Nez Perce Tribe Information Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 2:38 PM Subject: RE: Ipswitch Service Agreement Status Jim, I apologize for our delay in response. Mary is out of the office today and I wanted to get back to you. Below are the prices we have currently for subsequent renewals of ICS. The price depends on which level/version you cross grade to, for the ICS. Below are the current renewal prices. 25 User Standard Edition $ 375 Premium Edition $ 449 100 User Standard Edition $995 Premium Edition $ 1295 250 User Standard Edition $1495 Premium Edition $ 2695 Unlimited User Standard Edition $2995 Premium Edition $ 4995 Please let me know if I may further assist you. Thank you Traci Casparius Service Sales Coordinator Ipswitch, Inc. (P)781-676-5773 (F)781-676-5710 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.Virus] IpSwitch Collaboration Suite Yearly renewal costs up to $4995 per server per year
I just got off the phone with IPSwitch and they've done right by me. I was able to purchase/renew my SA at the normal $495 price. So I'm set for another year. They said that price might increase to $695, but that's not going to kill me. I asked if the product is the same: yes. Will I be eligible for 8.2+ 9.0 upgrades: yes. Is the product going to be killed in the future: no. By the product I mean the Imail server without any extras, unlimited users - much as we know it now. Of course I'm happy that I can continue to use declude as well. The price will be going up, so any one who wants to renew an SA, or has 6.0-8.0 might want to seriously think about giving up the $500 now, if for nothing else to have the latest updates and some time to work out what you are going to do. All new purchases must be of ICS, this is only for existing Imail customers. Robert -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Matuska Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 6:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] IpSwitch Collaboration Suite Yearly renewal costs up to $4995 per server per year :) no I've been monitoring the list, but I wasn't sure if everyone had jumped from the burning ship yet, I did know that Imail was still selling SA's to existing customers for Imail itself, but considering you are paying for support on an end of life product, it doesn't make much sense. Until that email today from Ipswitch I didn't know what the renewal costs were going to be for the new product (it took them a week to get that response to me too). I'll have to check out those other products you mentioned in your email. Jim Matuska Jr. Computer Tech II CCNA Nez Perce Tribe Information Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Matt Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 3:06 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] IpSwitch Collaboration Suite Yearly renewal costs up to $4995 per server per year Have you been hiding for the last couple of weeks? :-) Ipswitch first stood firm and refused to budge, then backpedaled when they realized how pissed everyone was. Now they say they will sell SA's for a mere $695 to existing users now. Such a deal. They might sell an Imail upgrade to someone who has Standard. Case-by-case. They want everyone to upgrade to ICS. The line looks pretty short. A significant portion of the Imail community is jumping ship, either out of protest over the pricing or a lack of trust in the company. Some are staying either as the path of least resistance or they are comfortable with the new pricing. New purchasers are buying other products (SmarterMail and Merak in that order seem to be the preference, with a few renegades going Linux/Postfix). Me I thought I was going to Merak but now I've gotten my current client to change his buy to SmarterMail. Heck an unlimited domain version is $199 via reseller so why not give it a shot. Unconfirmed rumors abound of a Declude product that works on SmarterMail. Check the archives :-) -- --Matt Robertson-- President, Janitor MSB Designs, Inc. mysecretbase.com --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.Virus] IpSwitch Collaboration Suite Yearly renewal costs up to $4995 per server per year
My advice: Get it in writing. Verbal communication can always be denied later on. It has happened to me way too many times in the past that I'm told something when I buy, then the company that sold it later denies that they told me that thing when I question changes. Darin. - Original Message - From: Robert Shubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 9:30 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] IpSwitch Collaboration Suite Yearly renewal costs up to $4995 per server per year I just got off the phone with IPSwitch and they've done right by me. I was able to purchase/renew my SA at the normal $495 price. So I'm set for another year. They said that price might increase to $695, but that's not going to kill me. I asked if the product is the same: yes. Will I be eligible for 8.2+ 9.0 upgrades: yes. Is the product going to be killed in the future: no. By the product I mean the Imail server without any extras, unlimited users - much as we know it now. Of course I'm happy that I can continue to use declude as well. The price will be going up, so any one who wants to renew an SA, or has 6.0-8.0 might want to seriously think about giving up the $500 now, if for nothing else to have the latest updates and some time to work out what you are going to do. All new purchases must be of ICS, this is only for existing Imail customers. Robert -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Matuska Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 6:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] IpSwitch Collaboration Suite Yearly renewal costs up to $4995 per server per year :) no I've been monitoring the list, but I wasn't sure if everyone had jumped from the burning ship yet, I did know that Imail was still selling SA's to existing customers for Imail itself, but considering you are paying for support on an end of life product, it doesn't make much sense. Until that email today from Ipswitch I didn't know what the renewal costs were going to be for the new product (it took them a week to get that response to me too). I'll have to check out those other products you mentioned in your email. Jim Matuska Jr. Computer Tech II CCNA Nez Perce Tribe Information Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Matt Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 3:06 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] IpSwitch Collaboration Suite Yearly renewal costs up to $4995 per server per year Have you been hiding for the last couple of weeks? :-) Ipswitch first stood firm and refused to budge, then backpedaled when they realized how pissed everyone was. Now they say they will sell SA's for a mere $695 to existing users now. Such a deal. They might sell an Imail upgrade to someone who has Standard. Case-by-case. They want everyone to upgrade to ICS. The line looks pretty short. A significant portion of the Imail community is jumping ship, either out of protest over the pricing or a lack of trust in the company. Some are staying either as the path of least resistance or they are comfortable with the new pricing. New purchasers are buying other products (SmarterMail and Merak in that order seem to be the preference, with a few renegades going Linux/Postfix). Me I thought I was going to Merak but now I've gotten my current client to change his buy to SmarterMail. Heck an unlimited domain version is $199 via reseller so why not give it a shot. Unconfirmed rumors abound of a Declude product that works on SmarterMail. Check the archives :-) -- --Matt Robertson-- President, Janitor MSB Designs, Inc. mysecretbase.com --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.Virus] IpSwitch Collaboration Suite Yearly renewal costs up to $4995 per server per year
FYI for anyone who is contemplating going to the new version of Ipswitch's collaboration suite it looks like their yearly renewal prices are going to be about as much as the initial upgrade costs, I received the below email from IPswitch. It has been a bit since IpSwitch made their announcements re the collaboration suite, what is everyone else doing in regard to this? I am still up in the air here, but leaning further and further away from IPswitch I think. Jim Matuska Jr. Computer Tech II CCNA Nez Perce Tribe Information Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 2:38 PM Subject: RE: Ipswitch Service Agreement Status Jim, I apologize for our delay in response. Mary is out of the office today and I wanted to get back to you. Below are the prices we have currently for subsequent renewals of ICS. The price depends on which level/version you cross grade to, for the ICS. Below are the current renewal prices. 25 User Standard Edition $ 375 Premium Edition $ 449 100 User Standard Edition $995 Premium Edition $ 1295 250 User Standard Edition $1495 Premium Edition $ 2695 Unlimited User Standard Edition $2995 Premium Edition $ 4995 Please let me know if I may further assist you. Thank you Traci Casparius Service Sales Coordinator Ipswitch, Inc. (P)781-676-5773 (F)781-676-5710 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.Virus] IpSwitch Collaboration Suite Yearly renewal costs up to $4995 per server per year
Have you been hiding for the last couple of weeks? :-) Ipswitch first stood firm and refused to budge, then backpedaled when they realized how pissed everyone was. Now they say they will sell SA's for a mere $695 to existing users now. Such a deal. They might sell an Imail upgrade to someone who has Standard. Case-by-case. They want everyone to upgrade to ICS. The line looks pretty short. A significant portion of the Imail community is jumping ship, either out of protest over the pricing or a lack of trust in the company. Some are staying either as the path of least resistance or they are comfortable with the new pricing. New purchasers are buying other products (SmarterMail and Merak in that order seem to be the preference, with a few renegades going Linux/Postfix). Me I thought I was going to Merak but now I've gotten my current client to change his buy to SmarterMail. Heck an unlimited domain version is $199 via reseller so why not give it a shot. Unconfirmed rumors abound of a Declude product that works on SmarterMail. Check the archives :-) -- --Matt Robertson-- President, Janitor MSB Designs, Inc. mysecretbase.com --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.Virus] IpSwitch Collaboration Suite Yearly renewal costs up to $4995 per server per year
:) no I've been monitoring the list, but I wasn't sure if everyone had jumped from the burning ship yet, I did know that Imail was still selling SA's to existing customers for Imail itself, but considering you are paying for support on an end of life product, it doesn't make much sense. Until that email today from Ipswitch I didn't know what the renewal costs were going to be for the new product (it took them a week to get that response to me too). I'll have to check out those other products you mentioned in your email. Jim Matuska Jr. Computer Tech II CCNA Nez Perce Tribe Information Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Matt Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 3:06 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] IpSwitch Collaboration Suite Yearly renewal costs up to $4995 per server per year Have you been hiding for the last couple of weeks? :-) Ipswitch first stood firm and refused to budge, then backpedaled when they realized how pissed everyone was. Now they say they will sell SA's for a mere $695 to existing users now. Such a deal. They might sell an Imail upgrade to someone who has Standard. Case-by-case. They want everyone to upgrade to ICS. The line looks pretty short. A significant portion of the Imail community is jumping ship, either out of protest over the pricing or a lack of trust in the company. Some are staying either as the path of least resistance or they are comfortable with the new pricing. New purchasers are buying other products (SmarterMail and Merak in that order seem to be the preference, with a few renegades going Linux/Postfix). Me I thought I was going to Merak but now I've gotten my current client to change his buy to SmarterMail. Heck an unlimited domain version is $199 via reseller so why not give it a shot. Unconfirmed rumors abound of a Declude product that works on SmarterMail. Check the archives :-) -- --Matt Robertson-- President, Janitor MSB Designs, Inc. mysecretbase.com --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
