Re: [libreoffice-design] Topic for design team to investigate: Content hosting consolidation on ask.libreoffice.org
Hello, Am 05.11.18 um 09:58 schrieb Bjoern Michaelsen: > Hello Andreas, > > Thanks for joining the discussion. first of all, I didn't join the discussion and currently I'm out. > > On Sat, Nov 03, 2018 at 10:56:56PM +0100, Andreas Mantke wrote: >> FYI: because I felt this way of communication inside the project lacked >> the necessary respect for the volunteer work done for about seven years >> during spare time, I stopped my work for the project and the website >> with immidiate effect. I was never included in any discussion about the >> site before this thread (or better threat) was started. I think this is >> a behavior that is not appropriate to an open source project that define >> itself as open and transparent. > Im sorry that you feel that way. However, the Board and -- I am sure the > community too -- are deeply grateful for your work here; and as you've been a > member of the Board from the start, you were included in all discussions -- > both internal and external -- about the struggle around that site though. Sorry, that I didn't share your view here. There were no real internal discussions with the board about issues. The last discussion about the topic extensions website happened during the board call at 27 Feb. 2017. The summary was 'everyone happy - good work'. > > The Good Thing is, this thread did yield at least three volunteers from the > LibreOffice community wanting to help out with the extension website now that > they are aware: Maarten, Ilmari and Andreas Kainz. From what I heard, some > have > tried to contact you on how to get involved or proceed, but unfortunately were > unable to succeed. > Andreas was not unable. He got an Plone test instance, that I already created for him. I don't know, if he used it already. But afterwards I was kicked out by this thread. I'm not used to be pilloried for my work during my spare time. And maybe others too. Kind regards, Andreas -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-design] Topic for design team to investigate: Content hosting consolidation on ask.libreoffice.org
Hello all, FYI: because I felt this way of communication inside the project lacked the necessary respect for the volunteer work done for about seven years during spare time, I stopped my work for the project and the website with immidiate effect. I was never included in any discussion about the site before this thread (or better threat) was started. I think this is a behavior that is not appropriate to an open source project that define itself as open and transparent. Thus the extensions and templates website is not maintained since three weeks yet. I will only spend my spare time for tasks where I get in return respectful treatment and honest feedback. Kind regards, Andreas Am 11.10.18 um 14:58 schrieb Bjoern Michaelsen: > Hello Design Team, > > as you might be aware, the user experience of our extension and template > website causes users a lot of concern[1]. This is despite volunteer efforts > trying to move this forward, but stalling due to limited resources, which led > to TDF even attempting to get commercial support for Plone[2] to augment the > the limited volunteer ressources available. The latter did not help to > meaningfully improve the situation either. > > So as all current efforts there are stalled, I looked around for alternative > solutions to our usecase -- which is hosting auxiliary content for LibreOffice > consumers. We already have a platform that does that, which is > ask.libreoffice.org. > > ask.libreoffice.org already allows uploading of templates as attachments to > questions, so it can already be used for templates. Doing so (e.g. by posting > a > self-answered question) is possible, but not exactly intuitive. However, > askbot > also provides: > > - various logins including OAuth etc. (which currently is a hassle on Plone) > - distributed moderation and gamification (which currently is a bottleneck on > Plone) > - better discoveribility, tagging and social media integration > - markdown, mini-wiki and discussion of content > - multi-language support > > That is, the experience for template creators and consumers is already much > better > on askbot than it is on the current extension and templates website, which is > stalled and currently has no clear path to even get to a experience comparable > with askbot -- let alone beyond. > > As such, I would like to suggest the design team to investigate, if it is > feasable: > > - to extend askbots existing UI to offer uploading of templates > (well, technically that is already possible: This is just about making the > usecase more obvious to users, e.g. with a guided "templates upload wizard") > - to extend askbots configuration to also allow .oxt files as uploads and > offer > the same for extensions > - finally, use e.g. tags to provide a "template" or "extension" view of > ask.libreoffice.org > > Unlike the rather limited successes we had with Plone, TDF sucessfully > triggered > improvements of askbot in the past[3], so given some well-scoped choices and > selections made by the design team wrt askbot could help guide the same in the > future. > > Best, > > Bjoern > > > [1] Seen e.g. by: > a/ repeated cries for help on twitter, some examples: >https://twitter.com/nimbleslides/status/1020899933161848832 >https://twitter.com/FloraCanou/status/1020517686453735424 > b/ currently no presentation templates being offered there, despite this >being the most common use case: > > https://extensions.libreoffice.org/templates?getCategories=Presentation&getCompatibility=any >and massive template collections actually being hosted elsewhere e.g.: >https://github.com/dohliam/libreoffice-impress-templates > [2] see entry for 2016-02-18 on > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/BoD_Decisions > [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Askbot > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-design] Re: Extension webpage layout update
Hi Andreas, Am 10.08.2018 um 07:02 schrieb kainz.a: > Morning > > That's a good plan. I would go with 2-3 people (hopefully). But 3 > playgrounds should be enough. > > The design team discussion is ordinary at #libreoffice-design > I created a new instance in my TDF-Development-Environment. I don't know which content you need on the site(s). Could you please explain, if you need the current content of the extensions and the templates folder of extensions.libreoffice.org? Once I create the parallel site(s) I need a set of username and email-addresses. I'll give the user siteadmin-access for their sites. I think you'll need some advise how to work on the theming of the site(s), woudn't you? Kind regards, Andreas -- Andreas Mantke Twitter: @andreaslibo Skype: andreaslibo The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, Germany Rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-design] Re: Extension webpage layout update
Hi Andreas, it's not recommend to do this on / inside the productive site, but we could set up a playground, where you could play live with the website design. Could you please explain how many team members want to work on this topic? Maybe we / I could create a seperate playground for each of them, this you could compare different approaches. Cheers, Andreas Am 9. August 2018 22:59:08 MESZ schrieb "kainz.a" : >Hi Mantke, > >is it possible that the LibreOffice design team can play around with >the >css files of the extension webpage? I'm thinking of a subfolder where >we >can have write access and play around with the extension webpage theme. >So >something like a live design playground. > >thanks for your feedback >Andreas Kainz > >2018-04-13 15:34 GMT+02:00 Andreas Mantke < >andreas.man...@documentfoundation.org>: > >> Hi Andreas, >> >> Am 11.04.2018 um 09:03 schrieb hostmas...@documentfoundation.org: >> > Hi, >> > >> > I'm a LibreOffice designer and want to ask if it's possible to make >some >> small changes in the layout (no bold text, ...) I'm not interested >into a >> redesign, only update the css file. >> > >> > Cheers >> > Andreas Kainz >> >> it's possible to make (small) changes in the theming of the >LibreOffice >> extensions and templates website. The source code of the site is >here: >> https://github.com/tdf/extensions.libreoffice.org >> >> There is also a description about the theme development and how you >> could change the css. >> >> Kind regards, >> Andreas >> >> -- >> Andreas Mantke >> Twitter: @andreaslibo Skype: andreaslibo >> The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, Germany >> Rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts >> Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint >> -- Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Mobiltelefon mit K-9 Mail gesendet. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: Fwd: [libreoffice-design] Share 3D models in the new web site for templates and extensions
Hi, Am 16.12.2016 um 08:08 schrieb Heiko Tietze: > Hi all, > > this email was waiting for a long time in my inbox. But since we have a new > extensions site now I'd ask you, Andreas, to make this possible. > > Cheers, > Heiko > > Forwarded Message > Subject: [libreoffice-design] Share 3D models in the new web site for > templates and extensions > Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2015 14:00:26 -0300 > From: Bastián Díaz > To: design@global.libreoffice.org > > Hello, I have understood that the design team has been working on a > redesign for the website of extensions and templates for LibreOffice. > > I wonder if it is possible to add a section to share 3D models for use > in Impress. This feature has been added since LO 4.3, and from my point > of view has great potential in education. > > Unfortunately, it is not easy to get 3D models and not all have the > ability to create our own. With a section so the community could > exchange and improve available 3D models. > > Cheers > I wonder, whether this 3D models are templates or extensions. And if they are some sort of them (which one?), do they have a special file format and a file extension? Kind regards, Andreas -- ## Infrastructure Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Sorry Urgent: Logo For New LibreOffice Extensions and Templates Website
Hello Klaus-Jürgen, thanks for the logo. I forwarded the link to the theme developer. Kind regards, Andreas Am 29. September 2016 20:12:57 MESZ, schrieb K-J LibreOffice : >Sorry, >wrong link: > >https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:K-j/Drafts/Design#Extensions_and_Templates > >Am 29.09.2016 um 20:11 schrieb K-J LibreOffice: >> Hi Andreas, >> here is a first placeholder for the banner [1]. Naturally without >green >> background but white on white won't be so visible. >> >> As the banner isn't really big it will be a problem to get more infos >on >> it. >> >> [1] >> >https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/WikiAction/submit/User:K-j/Drafts/Design#Extensions_and_Templates >> >> >> >> Am 28.09.2016 um 09:52 schrieb Andreas Mantke: >>> Hello Klaus-Jürgen, >>> >>> the size should 215 * 56 pixel. The theme will adapt the color >scheme >>> of the LibreOffice website. >>> >>> Am 28. September 2016 09:37:28 MESZ, schrieb "klaus-jürgen weghorn >ol" >>> : >>>> Hi Andreas, >>>> uuurgh, until FRIDAY?! >>>> >>>> Can you give a screenshot of the webpage itself so that we can see >the >>>> colour sheme etc.? >>>> What size do you need? >>>> >>>> >>>> Am 27.09.2016 um 21:57 schrieb Andreas Mantke: >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> we will have soon a new LibreOffice extensions and templates >website >>>> and >>>>> we need a new logo for the site. The new logo had to reflect both: >>>>> >>>>> LibreOffice extensions and templates >>>>> >>>>> because there will be only one (united) website for both. >>>> >>>> Will have a try. >>>> >>>>> It would be great if the design team could make a first version of >a >>>> new >>>>> shiny logo up to Friday thus I could forward it to the theme >>>> developer. >>>> >>>> Friday 30.09.2016? 23:59? >>>> The timeline is really jokey. >>>> Why don't you give us the weekend to work for it? >>>> There is no way to design such things and discuss it in such a >short >>>> time. >>>> >>> >>> If you need more time, I'd go with a first scetch/alpha and replace >it >>> with the final version later. But I need something from our side for >>> the theme developer this he and we could see, if everything works AS >>> expected in different screensizes and with the our color schema. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Andreas >>> >> >> > > >-- >Grüße >k-j > >Member of TheDocumentFoundation >https://www.documentfoundation.org/governance/members/ >https://de.libreoffice.org >https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ > >-- >To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >Problems? >http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >Posting guidelines + more: >http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ >All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be >deleted -- Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Mobiltelefon mit K-9 Mail gesendet. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Sorry Urgent: Logo For New LibreOffice Extensions and Templates Website
Hello Klaus-Jürgen, the size should 215 * 56 pixel. The theme will adapt the color scheme of the LibreOffice website. Am 28. September 2016 09:37:28 MESZ, schrieb "klaus-jürgen weghorn ol" : >Hi Andreas, >uuurgh, until FRIDAY?! > >Can you give a screenshot of the webpage itself so that we can see the >colour sheme etc.? >What size do you need? > > >Am 27.09.2016 um 21:57 schrieb Andreas Mantke: >> Hello, >> >> we will have soon a new LibreOffice extensions and templates website >and >> we need a new logo for the site. The new logo had to reflect both: >> >> LibreOffice extensions and templates >> >> because there will be only one (united) website for both. > >Will have a try. > >> It would be great if the design team could make a first version of a >new >> shiny logo up to Friday thus I could forward it to the theme >developer. > >Friday 30.09.2016? 23:59? >The timeline is really jokey. >Why don't you give us the weekend to work for it? >There is no way to design such things and discuss it in such a short >time. > If you need more time, I'd go with a first scetch/alpha and replace it with the final version later. But I need something from our side for the theme developer this he and we could see, if everything works AS expected in different screensizes and with the our color schema. Regards, Andreas -- Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Mobiltelefon mit K-9 Mail gesendet. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-design] Sorry Urgent: Logo For New LibreOffice Extensions and Templates Website
Hello, we will have soon a new LibreOffice extensions and templates website and we need a new logo for the site. The new logo had to reflect both: LibreOffice extensions and templates because there will be only one (united) website for both. It would be great if the design team could make a first version of a new shiny logo up to Friday thus I could forward it to the theme developer. Thanks in advance, Andreas -- ## Infrastructure Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Integrating the new template website into the template manager
Hello Jay, Am 04.04.2016 um 21:57 schrieb Andreas Mantke: > (...) > I had to search a bit about a possible solution and run some tests. I > got plone.jsonapi.routes running with Plone 5.0.3 and created an > instance on my TDF-VM. It's up and running at > http://vm141.documentfoundation.org:9201/liboexttempsite/ now. > It's possible to create a search within the site using the URL: > http://vm141.documentfoundation.org:9201/liboexttempsite/@@API/plone/api/1.0/search. > But you'll need permissions to do so. > There is a documentation for jsonapi.routes available at > https://plonejsonapiroutes.readthedocs.org/en/latest/index.html short additional information: The search works without a special account. You could get everything in the jsonview that is public available. Regards, Andreas -- ## Infrastructure Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-design] Re: Integrating the new template website into the template manager
Hi Jay, Am 01.04.2016 um 13:24 schrieb Yousuf 'Jay' Philips: > Hi Andreas, > > Thanks for all the ongoing hard work that you are doing for the new > extension/template website. > > I'm not sure if you remember, but in late 2014 I create a bug > report[1] with the intent of integrating the template website into the > start center and template manager. This idea has been included as a > GSoC (Google Summer of Code) project[2] and one of the students this > year is looking into implement it. What would be ideal to make this > possible is a search api that could be queried for search results and > output either in xml or json format. This would be more ideal than the > alternative of parsing the html code for the same information. I've > also created a mockup for what this integration may look like for the > template manager[3]. Your input in this matter would be appreciated. > > [1] https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85420 > [2] > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/Ideas#Integration_of_the_Templates_Repository > [3] > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MHN-PctRP2O9gQop74612xObBeuuww83BhPU8t7cdGs/edit?usp=sharing > > Yousuf > I had to search a bit about a possible solution and run some tests. I got plone.jsonapi.routes running with Plone 5.0.3 and created an instance on my TDF-VM. It's up and running at http://vm141.documentfoundation.org:9201/liboexttempsite/ now. It's possible to create a search within the site using the URL: http://vm141.documentfoundation.org:9201/liboexttempsite/@@API/plone/api/1.0/search. But you'll need permissions to do so. There is a documentation for jsonapi.routes available at https://plonejsonapiroutes.readthedocs.org/en/latest/index.html I could create an account on the new instance for you. Please ping me. FYI: the extensions part of the site got already an event message tool that could send emails with information about new extension releases. This could be used to implement an update service for extensions in LibreOffice. Regards, Andreas -- ## Infrastructure Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-website] Development of new LibreOffice Extensions and Templates Website - Current Status
Hello, Am 25.01.2016 um 19:38 schrieb Heiko Tietze: > On Monday, 25 January 2016 19:30:32 CET Charles-H. Schulz wrote: >> Some use Google despite repeated complaints of others. We have pads then, if >> the wiki is not deemed to be the right place > Sharing a document on two places is worse than everything else. But here it > is: http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/Extensions_Templates_Website thanks for the feedback. I added already some comments. Some points in your feedback are a bit difficult to solve, because they are part of the Plone-Core. I have also some questions about some of your comments. I try to add some further comments. Kind regards, Andreas -- ## Infrastructure Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-website] Development of new LibreOffice Extensions and Templates Website - Current Status
Hello Sophie, Am 25.01.2016 um 15:56 schrieb Sophie: > Hi Andreas, > Le 24/01/2016 17:21, Andreas Mantke a écrit : >> Hello Heiko, >> >> Am 24.01.2016 um 11:59 schrieb Heiko Tietze: >>> On Sunday, 24 January 2016 11:42:44 CET Andreas Mantke wrote: >>>> although we cannot force people to test, we need some tests from >>>> possible contributors and not from migration professionals first. We >>>> need to know, if there is nothing wrong in the work flow from a users >>>> perspective and if there are no (minor) bugs. >>> What specifically do you want to know? I guess you have tested well that >>> registration works, if stuff can get uploaded etc. I see some UX confusions >>> but those are likely to be solved during the migration. In other words, as >>> a >>> non-contributor in this field I feel overwhelmed by the amount of functions. >> I tested the add-on myself, but that's not the same as a test with the >> eyes and the work flow of a non-developer (of this add-on). Thus I think >> fresh and independent eyes would be of great help. >> >> About the UX issues: maybe you could draft a list and we could discuss >> and could sort them out. I think that would be a necessary step before >> the web-designer starts working. > I went to the site and here is my feedback: > - on the Home page, only English is listed, will the other available > languages be listed here? > - it is said "A place to upload your extensions" but most of the users > will want to download them > - then I clicked on Extensions, there is only one available for the tests? > - Clicking on Danger signs, there is a mix of languages listed at the > top but if you don't read English, there is no way to head here on the > previous pages. > - If there is more that 10 languages, you have to scroll down a long way > before you arrive to the download part, much too long, isn't it possible > to have a direct link to download? > - once clicked on the version to download, another page open, which is > very long for just one extension, you should be able to download from > the top of the previous page. thanks for your first feedback. - The different languages will be provided. - The text is a placeholder and could be extended/edited. Suggestions welcome. - I created only one Extension (copy and paste from the current site) to provide an example project. - I copied the current state of the extension from the current site. The description was a complete copy. If there would be a translation (different languages of the extension project) the description text would be shorter (only one language for each). - It's possible to rearrange the project page to get the direct download link (the green arrow) more prominent for the user (would be easy because it's like hacking on HTML structure). - The versions table is for all versions. The newest version is on top of that table and the download link is the green arrow. > Here is a first feedback, if you need me to upload an extension, let me > know. Please try to register an account, create a new project and add an extension release to the project. I'm curious of your further feedback then. I should create a Redmine ticket to collect all feedback / tasks I had to work on. Kind regards, Andreas -- ## Infrastructure Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-website] Development of new LibreOffice Extensions and Templates Website - Current Status
Hello Heiko, Am 24.01.2016 um 11:59 schrieb Heiko Tietze: > On Sunday, 24 January 2016 11:42:44 CET Andreas Mantke wrote: >> although we cannot force people to test, we need some tests from >> possible contributors and not from migration professionals first. We >> need to know, if there is nothing wrong in the work flow from a users >> perspective and if there are no (minor) bugs. > What specifically do you want to know? I guess you have tested well that > registration works, if stuff can get uploaded etc. I see some UX confusions > but those are likely to be solved during the migration. In other words, as a > non-contributor in this field I feel overwhelmed by the amount of functions. I tested the add-on myself, but that's not the same as a test with the eyes and the work flow of a non-developer (of this add-on). Thus I think fresh and independent eyes would be of great help. About the UX issues: maybe you could draft a list and we could discuss and could sort them out. I think that would be a necessary step before the web-designer starts working. Regards, Andreas -- ## Infrastructure Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-website] Development of new LibreOffice Extensions and Templates Website - Current Status
Hello Charles, Am 23.01.2016 um 21:47 schrieb Charles-H. Schulz: > Hello Andreas, > > Andreas Mantke @ 2016-01-23 11:05 CET: > >> Hello, >> >> () >> I'm afraid we could only start with further steps once we got enough >> volunteers to test the current development status. >> >> There is self-registration opened since some weeks. It's also possible >> to create and play with content on the test website, but nobody has >> given the new site a try up to now. > We cannot force people to test the platform :-) So we may want to go ahead > with the tendering process and make sure tests are included in the migration > tender. Does it make sense? although we cannot force people to test, we need some tests from possible contributors and not from migration professionals first. We need to know, if there is nothing wrong in the work flow from a users perspective and if there are no (minor) bugs. It's important to have a qa of the current forms and work flow before we go ahead. If there is no interest to work on such tests I have some issues with the conclusion of a huge demand in website improvements. Once we made the necessary tests we could tender the migration, because we know the connection of the old and the new content objects (and their fields) then. The tests shouldn't take too much time. If we have a few volunteers we could manage this maybe in a week or so. It's not a huge effort. It's not like testing an office application ;-) Regards, Andreas -- ## Infrastructure Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-website] Development of new LibreOffice Extensions and Templates Website - Current Status
Hello, Am 10.01.2016 um 22:33 schrieb Charles-H. Schulz: > Hello Andreas, Cor, > > Andreas Mantke @ 2016-01-10 20:03 CET: > >> Hi, >> >> Am 10.01.2016 um 19:47 schrieb Cor Nouws: >>> Andreas Mantke wrote on 10-01-16 18:45: >>>> Hi Cor, >>>> the development of the add-ons for the new site (in the revision) is >>>> nearly finished. I had to fix some smaller issues. >>>> >>>> But there are some further steps, that had to be done by payed developer: >>>> >>>> -- design of the new site >>>> -- content transfer from the current site to the new one >>>> -- adaption of one or two important external add-ons for Plone 5 >>> Will be great if there is progress on that part too! >>> It's already budgetted for? >> we could tender that after we got some volunteer testers of the current >> status. The tester need only to work with the forms. > For the design of the new site, I would strongly suggest to rely on the > designer of the main web site, so that we remain coherent and consistent with > the same design (small variations are of course possible). > > When could we start the tendering process (knowing there are two items here, > one being related to design, the other one to the platform development and > migration)? I'm afraid we could only start with further steps once we got enough volunteers to test the current development status. There is self-registration opened since some weeks. It's also possible to create and play with content on the test website, but nobody has given the new site a try up to now. Regards, Andreas -- ## Infrastructure Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-website] Development of new LibreOffice Extensions and Templates Website - Current Status
Hi, Am 10.01.2016 um 19:47 schrieb Cor Nouws: > Andreas Mantke wrote on 10-01-16 18:45: >> Hi Cor, > >> the development of the add-ons for the new site (in the revision) is >> nearly finished. I had to fix some smaller issues. >> >> But there are some further steps, that had to be done by payed developer: >> >> -- design of the new site >> -- content transfer from the current site to the new one >> -- adaption of one or two important external add-ons for Plone 5 > Will be great if there is progress on that part too! > It's already budgetted for? we could tender that after we got some volunteer testers of the current status. The tester need only to work with the forms. It's always possible to change the view of the content objects (center, project, release, linked release). We could discuss this display/view in parallel. >>> Few remarks: > Thanks for the explanation! > >> Could you provide a link to that page. Maybe I lost track. > I'm not sure if there ever was a wiki, but I found what we worked on here: > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:ExtensionsSite_IdeasOnContent_CorNouws_20140210.ods > The elements of your draft are all there (the ordering is a bit different, but it's possible to rearrange them easily). The views are created with TAL (Template Attribution Language), which is a bit different from plain HTML. (you could find the page templates in the github repository, e.g for the center.: https://github.com/tdf/tdf.extensionuploadcenter/blob/master/tdf/extensionuploadcenter/eupcenter_templates/view.pt I got some hints for the current arrangement of the elements from the de-Community-Meeting last year. But I'm open for other proposals. Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-website] Development of new LibreOffice Extensions and Templates Website - Current Status
Hi Cor, Am 10.01.2016 um 17:43 schrieb Cor Nouws: > Hi Andreas, > > Andreas Mantke wrote on 12-12-15 19:16: > >> Due to some issues with the usability of the current website I decided >> to work on two new add-ons for the website to solve this issues a time >> ago. I worked on that add-ons a lot in my spare time and finished a >> version for Plone 4.3 around the LibreOffice conference in Aarhus. This >> add-on versions used five.grok. But this add-on package will not be >> actively supported with the current version of Plone, Plone 5.0. Thus I >> decided to review my add-ons and drop the five.grok dependency. This >> made it necessary to create a lot of changes to the add-ons and nearly >> start from scratch. I got a new beta-version of them out now (after some >> weeks of work during my spare time). > Looking at these issues, and the fact that you repeatedly emphasize that > you do the work in your free time, I would suggest you to ask the board > to support the work, so that the most can be done in a project by > someone having normal time to do it. And that your, of course fully > understandable limited availability, is no longer a bottle neck. The > site is important enough for such a move, IMO. the development of the add-ons for the new site (in the revision) is nearly finished. I had to fix some smaller issues. But there are some further steps, that had to be done by payed developer: -- design of the new site -- content transfer from the current site to the new one -- adaption of one or two important external add-ons for Plone 5 > >> I created a new test website, that runs on a new shiny Plone 5.0: >> http://vm141.documentfoundation.org:9103/loexttem5/en/extensions > Thanks for that, of course :) > Few remarks: > 1) I was thinking about advantage when the split > Home | Extensions | Templates > is removed. Extensions are the landing page, for what the very vast > majority comes to the site. > A clear Instructions somewhere will be OK for people. I have not created a default view (page) for the home of the new site. If we want to go with a website with translated content, I fear that the home had to stay (with a default page [translated] with some information for users). > > 2) The search top-right is fine, but it is not clear that that is the > way to search for an extension. This Plone live search will be disabled in the productive state. I have not done this in the test site yet. Every part of the site (extensions and templates) will have a search form for products: extensions or templates. That is already implemented. You will see the form once you click on one of the entries in by category. > > 3) Nearly two years ago we made a functional design for some pages. > Can you give an update (wiki?) on the status of the current work in > relation to that design? Could you provide a link to that page. Maybe I lost track. Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-design] Development of new LibreOffice Extensions and Templates Website - Current Status
Hello, for those who are interested in the current status of the new LibreOffice extensions and templates website: The current extensions and templates website is running on Plone 4.3 with some add-ons. I contributed to two of this add-ons in the past. Due to some issues with the usability of the current website I decided to work on two new add-ons for the website to solve this issues a time ago. I worked on that add-ons a lot in my spare time and finished a version for Plone 4.3 around the LibreOffice conference in Aarhus. This add-on versions used five.grok. But this add-on package will not be actively supported with the current version of Plone, Plone 5.0. Thus I decided to review my add-ons and drop the five.grok dependency. This made it necessary to create a lot of changes to the add-ons and nearly start from scratch. I got a new beta-version of them out now (after some weeks of work during my spare time). I created a new test website, that runs on a new shiny Plone 5.0: http://vm141.documentfoundation.org:9103/loexttem5/en/extensions There is not much content yet and it is work in progress. The theming is the Plone default. It's planned to work on this theming next time. Currently the structure and the desired fields (of the content objects) are in the focus. If you want to give feedback on that, I'm happy to hear your ideas and proposals. Kind regards, Andreas -- ## Infrastructure developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] New Theme for new Extensions-Template-Site: Current Status
Hi Heiko, I got a very few replies. Am 15.06.2015 um 15:08 schrieb Heiko Tietze: > Hi Andreas, > > not sure if you got replies. So a few thoughts on my part: I don't > like it. There are too many colors, fonts (size and style), areas that > I get a clue what it stands for. Sorry for the harsh criticism, but > I'm German :-). Seriously, it might be a good start point for discussions. You are invited to propose some concrete improvements. I wrote that it is in a pre-pre-alpha status. > > * I guess this page is intended to provide extensions, but templates > as well? Yes, mentioned this already on the mailinglists. I'll create two Plone addons (currently only the one for extensions is developed to usable state / not finished). > * Is it supposed to be opened primarily from LO start center? Currently I don't plan to change the link from the extension manager of LibreOffice to the start center. That's not the focus of my project but maybe a topic of the design/UX team and the LibreOffice developer. > * What use case do people follow? (You provide so far 1. Filter (app, > version, rating) 2. Submit and 3. Browse sort of inspiration (most > recent, most popular...). In this respect, where do users start? > (Navigation through your page should start top left and go tho bottom > right) We have different users of the website: a) contributors b) 'consumer' If you like you could provide a screendesign (image) or work directly with HTML/CSS. Happy to get some input here. > * Is there access to different sites? (Home tab, Search input). It will be one website (not two like in the current state) with one user base and two areas (side by side) with different search results etc. > * Do you want to be international? The site and the addons support internationalization by design. It's also possible to translate every content item in different languages. Plone supports a lot of them (and the addons could do so too). > * Are there different tasks/use-cases and if so which is there a > preference? Yes, see my explanation above. > > Starting with a vision, scenario, and requirements makes the creation > of a layout easy later. For instance, if <5% of the users do not know > what log-in is good for this function could be hidden by moving it > into a menu. Having a consistent layout and branding (libreoffice.org) > makes the page familar and feel users at home. I'm not sure if our users don't know about the log-in feature. But you could draw a sketch and we could discuss and get some steps further. > > Hope that helps, > Heiko. > > PS: White on (toxic) green is not easy to read. Green (background) and > blue (links) bites each other. > We doesn't have this green/white combination on libreoffice.org, do we? The blue links are only a pre-pree-alpha state. It's very easy to change colors in CSS. Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-design] New Theme for new Extensions-Template-Site: Current Status
Hello, sorry for cross posting, but I want to provide information to the design team too and look for support from both teams (website and design) ;-) I worked on a new theme for the extensions and templates website in the meantime. The theme is based on the Diazo framework. It contains especially a rules file (xslt rules) and a static HTML site template with the additional CSS file(s) and images. I created a site only for the theming work. You could find it at: http://vm141.documentfoundation.org:9096/LibOExt-Theming/en. It shows always the current state of the theme work. This is work in progress and I'm looking for some volunteers to join and e.g. create some artwork (e.g. logo etc.). I'm looking also for some feedback and some ideas how to improve the current state (I created only the CSS for the startpage of the extensions center and the forms yet. The project and release sites are still in a pre-pre-alpha status.). Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] New Design for LibreOffice Extensions and Templates Site
Hello Charles, Cor, Am 12.02.2015 um 10:15 schrieb Charles-H. Schulz: > Le 11.02.2015 23:05, Cor Nouws a écrit : >> Andreas Mantke wrote on 05-02-15 20:38: >>> Am 05.02.2015 um 17:38 schrieb Charles-H. Schulz: >> >>>> Thanks! I have an idea: what if we spread this proposal (share it over >>>> the internet) and call for a competition for the best CSS?r >>> >>> I think to write an email first to the website list first. If we >>> find no >>> further volunteers by the end the next week we should go with your >>> proposal above. >> >> I would suggest to ask for detailed necessary tech support too at the >> same time, Andreas. Will really help you to finish this before FOSDEM >> 201x without working night&day ;) > > +1 to both ;-) > > Thanks Andreas, thanks for your support. And excuse me for the late answer but I was ill and could not work on PC. I'm working through my backlog now. I made some additional to the theming product. The changes are all committed to the TDF github repository and could be checked out from there. And I want to finish the project really before the next FOSDEM ;-) I would like to see the new site in place before or during the LibreOffice conference 2015 (September) and maybe we could press the red button there ;-) @Charles: do you want to run the design/theming contest? Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] New Design for LibreOffice Extensions and Templates Site
Hello Charles, Am 05.02.2015 um 17:38 schrieb Charles-H. Schulz: > Hello Andreas, > > Le 03.02.2015 16:29, Andreas Mantke a écrit : >> Hello, >> >> I finished my work on a static HTML-/CSS-template for the new >> LibreOffice extensions and templates site during the UX-Hackfest 2015 in >> Brussels. This static template will be applied with some rules to the >> new website. I wrote already some of the rules in the rules.xml file. >> >> You could find the HTML- and CSS-files in the TDF-repo on github: >> https://github.com/tdf >> >> I created a test site on a TDF-resource: >> http://vm141.documentfoundation.org:9096/LibOExt-Theming/en >> >> It would be great, if a volunteer with better knowledge about plain HTML >> and CSS could have a look at the files in the github-repository and add >> some improvements and help making a new fresh and awesome design of the >> site. >> >> There are only good HTML and CSS knowledge needed for this work. You >> need no knowledge about the CMS Plone that powers the site. >> >> You can directly work with the HTML- and CSS-files from github. > > Thanks! I have an idea: what if we spread this proposal (share it over > the internet) and call for a competition for the best CSS? > I think to write an email first to the website list first. If we find no further volunteers by the end the next week we should go with your proposal above. Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] New Design for LibreOffice Extensions and Templates Site
Hi Christophe Am 03.02.2015 um 18:58 schrieb Christophe Strobbe: > Hi Andreas, > > On 3/02/2015 16:29, Andreas Mantke wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I finished my work on a static HTML-/CSS-template for the new >> LibreOffice extensions and templates site during the UX-Hackfest 2015 in >> Brussels. This static template will be applied with some rules to the >> new website. I wrote already some of the rules in the rules.xml file. >> >> You could find the HTML- and CSS-files in the TDF-repo on github: >> https://github.com/tdf > And here's my pull request: > <https://github.com/tdf/libreoffice-ext-templ-website/pull/1>. Hope this > helps :-) thanks for your pull request. I merged it today. Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-design] New Design for LibreOffice Extensions and Templates Site
Hello, I finished my work on a static HTML-/CSS-template for the new LibreOffice extensions and templates site during the UX-Hackfest 2015 in Brussels. This static template will be applied with some rules to the new website. I wrote already some of the rules in the rules.xml file. You could find the HTML- and CSS-files in the TDF-repo on github: https://github.com/tdf I created a test site on a TDF-resource: http://vm141.documentfoundation.org:9096/LibOExt-Theming/en It would be great, if a volunteer with better knowledge about plain HTML and CSS could have a look at the files in the github-repository and add some improvements and help making a new fresh and awesome design of the site. There are only good HTML and CSS knowledge needed for this work. You need no knowledge about the CMS Plone that powers the site. You can directly work with the HTML- and CSS-files from github. Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de m -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] LibreOffice Extensions-Template-Site - Work on a new Design
Hi Jay, it's a bit difficult for me to answer your question. The new start page of extensions and templates will get a search form like in the current sites. There will also be search links for all categories (without the search for a specific version of LibreOffice). We could create different collections of content: http://docs.plone.org/develop/plone/functionality/collections.html I didn't create a search api yet. I didn't investigate yet, if there is already such api in default Plone. Kind regards, Andreas Am 21.01.2015 um 18:07 schrieb Jay Philips: > Hi Andreas, > > I had proposed in a bug report that we find a means of integrating the > templates on the template website into start center/template manager ( > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85420 ). The issue was also > brought up in the weekly design meeting and we wondered if there was a > search api that could plugged into when the new site would be ready. > > Regards, > Jay > > On 01/04/2015 08:48 PM, Andreas Mantke wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I worked on the structure of a new LibreOffice extensions and templates >> site last time. The site runs on Plone. I worked on a new Plone addon >> that should make the contribution to the site much easier. >> >> I explained a bit about my work on the website-list already. I created >> three content types for the new site (instead of five in the current >> one). The contributor needs only take care of a project and a release >> content type. The release content type contains also the released files. >> >> I'm looking now for volunteers that want to look at the structure >> (design) of the content types. >> >> Because I want to start with the creation of a new theme for the site >> I'm also looking for volunteers with deeper knowledge on HTML and >> especially CSS. >> >> Although the Content Management System is Plone there is no need for >> knowledge about that CMS. >> >> If you are volunteering for both or one of the tasks please ping me. >> >> Regards, >> Andreas >> -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-website] LibreOffice Extensions-Template-Site - Work on a new Design
Hello, Am 04.01.2015 um 17:48 schrieb Andreas Mantke: > Hello, > (...) > > Because I want to start with the creation of a new theme for the site > I'm also looking for volunteers with deeper knowledge on HTML and > especially CSS. > > Although the Content Management System is Plone there is no need for > knowledge about that CMS. I worked on the files for a new Diazo theme for the extensions and templates site in the meantime. I made a draft template. This contains an index.html file, a css directory with two files and a images directory with currently two images. I have not added anything special to the css-file yet. If you want to work with me on a new theming for the site you don't need to know about Plone. It's pure webdevelopment/theming work with html and css. I created a github repository for the work: https://github.com/tdf/libreoffice-ext-templ-website You can download the files from there and work on the files local. Don't wonder about the manifest and the rules.xml files. You could ignore them for the moment. They wil take place in the game later when the theme will be applied to the new site. I created also a new Plone site for this purpose where we could show the current state of the theming work (first with a static site). It's located at: http://vm141.documentfoundation.org:9096/LibOExt-Theming/en (currently not connected with a new theme). Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-design] LibreOffice Extensions-Template-Site - Work on a new Design
Hello, I worked on the structure of a new LibreOffice extensions and templates site last time. The site runs on Plone. I worked on a new Plone addon that should make the contribution to the site much easier. I explained a bit about my work on the website-list already. I created three content types for the new site (instead of five in the current one). The contributor needs only take care of a project and a release content type. The release content type contains also the released files. I'm looking now for volunteers that want to look at the structure (design) of the content types. Because I want to start with the creation of a new theme for the site I'm also looking for volunteers with deeper knowledge on HTML and especially CSS. Although the Content Management System is Plone there is no need for knowledge about that CMS. If you are volunteering for both or one of the tasks please ping me. Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-design] LibreOffice Extensions-Site: Renovation
Hello, first sorry for crossposting, but I want to reach as many project members as possible. The further discussion should take place at the website-list. The LibreOffice extensions website is currently running on Plone with an add-on called Plone Software Center. There were a discussion to renovate the extensions site some weeks ago. I started my work on new content types in the mean time. I created this new types in a new add-on for Plone that is based on Dexterity content types. This types are more future-proof because Dexterity creates smaller files, less overhead and will be the future of Plone. I created the following hierarchical structure of content types (current naming): * ExtCenter * ExtProject * ExtReleasesSection * ExtRelease * Downloadablefile The first four types are of the container class. The general configuration is done in the ExtCenter (e.g. LibreOffice versions, platforms etc.). Independent from the CMS, that we use for the reimplementation/renovation I would like to discuss with you the structure of the new extensions site, the fields that are displayed in the different pages (e.g. a project page, a release page, a downloadable file page) and the information (fields) we would like to fill in the contributors. I published already two screenshots of the new types on my blog (http://amantke.de/blog/2014/02/libreoffice-extensions-repository-draft-of-new-views-part-1/). They are pure Plone default layout. If we choose to go further with Plone a new layout will be added once the content add-on is finished. But I would like to discuss the structure of the new extensions site and the information (fields) - in the edit-form and in the public page of each content type on the website-list. My current work is only a first draft. Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-design] Icons for LIbreOffice conference site - organizing add-on
Hi all, I'm working on the site for the upcomming LibreOffice conference. I created for this site a special add-on to manage the conference program from the call for papers to the published program. You could find the current status of the source on my github.com repository: https://github.com/andreasma/collective.conference I have already some icons for the different moduls of this add-on. You can find them here: https://github.com/andreasma/collective.conference/tree/master/src/collective/conference/static But there are some moduls missing: room, roomfolder, speakerfolder, track, workshop. If it would be easier to create a complete icon set and replace the current icons I'm also fine with that. The icons should be under the license GPL. Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Logo for the LibreOffice Conference 2012 in Berlin
Hi Klaus-Jürgen, Am 29.04.2012 18:15, schrieb klaus-jürgen weghorn ol: > Hi all, > Am 29.04.2012 13:47, schrieb Andreas Mantke: >> Hi all, >> >> the LibreOffice conference will be held this autumn in Berlin. We need a >> logo for this conference, that could be used on the website and other >> marketing material. The proposals for our first LibreOffice conference >> in Paris could be found here: >> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_conference_logo >> >> Maybe it is a bit more difficult to create a logo for Berlin because >> there is no Eiffel Tower ;-) > > There is a page for all of it: > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/Berlin2012_Conference > > And my draft (2012-03-02): > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibO_Conference_Logo_2012Berlin_color.png > > sorry, ooh, I missed that. Then we have a good starting point. Buddhika asked for a deadline: as usual: long time ago ;-) (but I'm kidding) We need the logo in the next two weeks, because we need to create a website for the conference soon. Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-design] Logo for the LibreOffice Conference 2012 in Berlin
Hi all, the LibreOffice conference will be held this autumn in Berlin. We need a logo for this conference, that could be used on the website and other marketing material. The proposals for our first LibreOffice conference in Paris could be found here: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_conference_logo Maybe it is a bit more difficult to create a logo for Berlin because there is no Eiffel Tower ;-) Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: Logo for Templates Site (was: Re: [libreoffice-design] Discussion about Extensions-Site-Layout)
Hi, Am Sonntag, 23. Oktober 2011, 04:31:34 schrieb Nik: (...) > - Andreas: attention is a funny thing in Graphic Design, when trying to > balance "size" with "empty-space" you have to remember that there is an > inverse-bell-curve, where too much or too little empty space /attracts/ > attention and a "balanced" compromise makes people feel comfortable, but > uninterested. For the logo I think we should go with this "boring" > balance because like you say, the logo isn't the major player on that > page, the Navigation is. But interesting to note in that principle, is > that something SMALL, when surrounded by luxuriant empty space, catches > attention. While I've never formalised that in any discussion on-list so > far, I think that is the method LibO should employ in its branding > language. It should become our mantra. Empty space (not necessarily > /white/, but /negative/) is our friend. because I made some changes to the proposals and maybe the logo is not in the same style like the one for the extensions site, I ask for new logo for the templates site. I will use that for the step by step update of the site layout. Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Discussion about Extensions-Site-Layout
Hi Christoph, *, Am Montag, 24. Oktober 2011, 21:23:54 schrieb Christoph Noack: (...) > Am Sonntag, den 23.10.2011, 17:16 +0200 schrieb Andreas Mantke: > > Hi Christoph, *, > > > > Am Sonntag, 23. Oktober 2011, 15:58:07 schrieb Christoph Noack: > > > Am Sonntag, den 23.10.2011, 13:31 +1100 schrieb Nik: > [...] > > > but that is not a discussion task only for designer. I created the > > Donation-Portlet because there was a discussion and request on other > > lists (If I remember correctly the website list). > > Thus the discussion had to take place on the Website- or the > > Foundation-Discuss-List, because otherwise we'll discuss this topic > > again and again on different lists. > > Absolutely! Discussions will take place ... and this was the reason for > me to start the "what is important for users and us"-list. I think that > hasn't been clear from my side (sorry). Once we defined the "user tasks" > with the highest priority (or things we really need to avoid, like e.g. > advertising), it will be much easier to decide. > but that is not a design-only-thing. It should in my opinion be discussed on the lists, I suggest above. I created the donation portlet, because there was a strong request for it. If we would go in another direction or will change the focus, it should discussed on the international discuss list or the website list. And it is no fun for a developer, if he had to do everything again and again (You know groundhog day ;-) > > > So, refining the tasks list ... open for discussion, of course. > > > > > > Interest of the people approaching the page: > > > 1. Getting extensions / templates ... so users should get an > > > > > > initial idea (so showing e.g. the most recent or best rated > > > items -> from here, people should be able to get further > > > collections) > > > > > > 2. Getting help how to install Extensions (currently it is still > > > > > > manual work, so we have to help here) > > > > Yes. But there is a link to a howto, that Gustavo and others wrote about > > this topic, on every extension project page. I worked on the code of > > Plone Software Center to make it posible that there is a hyperlink (and > > not only a text-link) to the howto. If it helps, I can put the link also > > on the homepage. > > Okay, thanks. But, I propose to wait a bit longer until we have the full > list (I assume that people who never used a wiki will be confused when > forwarded to another page that looks different). > But the howto is on our main LibreOffice webpage. Currently it could not be stored in binary file format on the extensions-site, because there is an issue with the blobstorrage (where all binary files go) (only for files from the website outside the Plone Software Center). > > > 3. Making it possible to "forward" information / templates to > > > other > > > > > > people (use case: advanced user "helps" less experienced person > > > to find what he might need) > > > > Do you think about sending mails with links to other people? > > May be one solution, yes. But do the other think that this might be > helpful / desired for such a page? > If you have a description and maybe a mockup, you can post it to the wikipage (see below). > > > 4. Upload their own content (this needs refinement as well ...) > > > > I need your proposals. Then I could look into the code of Plone Software > > Center (PSC) and Plone, what could be done / changed. > > Yep. > > By the way, is there any page that covers the Extension/Template-Center > development (something like our Whiteboard pages)? Yes, started longer time ago: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/index.php?title=Exitensions-website Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] LibreOffice Conference 2011, Personal Summary
Hi Nik, Am Montag, 24. Oktober 2011, 16:41:06 schrieb Nik: > Hi all, > > I've noticed mention in a couple of places here of the need for us to > make it clearer how we operate. > While I don't have a complete solution, there is an aspect that affects > me (and I imagine, quite a few others) that I'd like to propose a simple > solution to; > > Our "tasks/work items" page. It is too long, unkept and badly-sectioned > to be useful as a tool for knowing what needs to be done. > While I realise it isn't going to become an amazing productivity tool > overnight, there are some small improvements that we could make to make > it more useful. > > I've created a quick copy on my own wiki user-page to run past you > before making any changes to the actual task-list. > Please check this link; > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Nik#Proposed_rearrange_of_Design_Wo > rk_items does that mean that nobody will work on the Design / UX of the Extensions-/Templates- Website anymore? The project highly needs an Extensions- and Templates-Site, because we be addicted to website in this sector, that we have no control over and that is weak and we and our users could not rely on that site. Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Discussion about Extensions-Site-Layout
Hi Christoph, *, Am Sonntag, 23. Oktober 2011, 15:58:07 schrieb Christoph Noack: > Hi Nik, all! > > Am Sonntag, den 23.10.2011, 13:31 +1100 schrieb Nik: > > And on a personal note, all of this constant emphasis on donation is > > really starting to change my impression of LibO. A LOT! We went from > > a > > philosophy-driven endeavour which emphasised its focus on freedom > > (both > > speech AND expense) which rarely requested money to a seemingly > > money-hungry enterprise that wants more donations - more donations - > > MORE DONATIONS! > > Ah, very good point ... thanks for the reminder. Of course, the > donations are currently "just" required to pay for the infrastructure > etc. So yes, it might make more sense to explain people what the overall > project is about and how they can contribute to support us. From OOo > experience we know, that some people chose it because they want to > contribute, but don't know how / don't want to spend time. > but that is not a discussion task only for designer. I created the Donation-Portlet because there was a discussion and request on other lists (If I remember correctly the website list). Thus the discussion had to take place on the Website- or the Foundation-Discuss-List, because otherwise we'll discuss this topic again and again on different lists. > So, refining the tasks list ... open for discussion, of course. > > Interest of the people approaching the page: > 1. Getting extensions / templates ... so users should get an > initial idea (so showing e.g. the most recent or best rated > items -> from here, people should be able to get further > collections) > 2. Getting help how to install Extensions (currently it is still > manual work, so we have to help here) Yes. But there is a link to a howto, that Gustavo and others wrote about this topic, on every extension project page. I worked on the code of Plone Software Center to make it posible that there is a hyperlink (and not only a text-link) to the howto. If it helps, I can put the link also on the homepage. > 3. Making it possible to "forward" information / templates to other > people (use case: advanced user "helps" less experienced person > to find what he might need) Do you think about sending mails with links to other people? > 4. Upload their own content (this needs refinement as well ...) > I need your proposals. Then I could look into the code of Plone Software Center (PSC) and Plone, what could be done / changed. Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Discussion about Extensions-Site-Layout
Hi Nik, *, to fast, forgot to insert the link to a screenshot from my local playground. Am Sonntag, 23. Oktober 2011, 11:50:44 schrieb Andreas Mantke: > Hi Nik, *, > > Am Sonntag, 23. Oktober 2011, 04:31:34 schrieb Nik: > (...) > > > - Andreas: attention is a funny thing in Graphic Design, when trying to > > balance "size" with "empty-space" you have to remember that there is an > > inverse-bell-curve, where too much or too little empty space /attracts/ > > attention and a "balanced" compromise makes people feel comfortable, but > > uninterested. For the logo I think we should go with this "boring" > > balance because like you say, the logo isn't the major player on that > > page, the Navigation is. But interesting to note in that principle, is > > that something SMALL, when surrounded by luxuriant empty space, catches > > attention. While I've never formalised that in any discussion on-list so > > far, I think that is the method LibO should employ in its branding > > language. It should become our mantra. Empty space (not necessarily > > /white/, but /negative/) is our friend. > > I played a bit around on my local box and made some changes to the css. I > also changed the logo to - hopefully - the original. The search-bar is > placed now right to the top-main-navbar. I changed the color of the > heading to green. > > The logo walked up the hill a bit to the top of the site. The height of the > top-main- navbar is smaller now. Here is the link to the screenshot: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Liboextensionscenterchangesheader01.png Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Discussion about Extensions-Site-Layout
Hi Nik, *, Am Sonntag, 23. Oktober 2011, 04:31:34 schrieb Nik: (...) > - Andreas: attention is a funny thing in Graphic Design, when trying to > balance "size" with "empty-space" you have to remember that there is an > inverse-bell-curve, where too much or too little empty space /attracts/ > attention and a "balanced" compromise makes people feel comfortable, but > uninterested. For the logo I think we should go with this "boring" > balance because like you say, the logo isn't the major player on that > page, the Navigation is. But interesting to note in that principle, is > that something SMALL, when surrounded by luxuriant empty space, catches > attention. While I've never formalised that in any discussion on-list so > far, I think that is the method LibO should employ in its branding > language. It should become our mantra. Empty space (not necessarily > /white/, but /negative/) is our friend. > I played a bit around on my local box and made some changes to the css. I also changed the logo to - hopefully - the original. The search-bar is placed now right to the top-main-navbar. I changed the color of the heading to green. The logo walked up the hill a bit to the top of the site. The height of the top-main- navbar is smaller now. > ... > > Personally, if you don't mind my opinion, I would actually change the > landing page quite a bit. An explanation IS essential, but if I were to > land on an exentsions site, the MOST Important thing I'd like to see is > a big fat search box or categorised index. Maybe some of the best-rated > / most-popular / newest-addition extensions. I would like to see a > prominent "add an extension" and information/interview with Extension > developers. > Hmm. If we want to get such search into the landing page, we had to make the Extension-Center (Plone Software Center) the default page (not tried it out yet) and add some content to it (special fields with some content: our current text; or text with links to longer explanations). > And on a personal note, all of this constant emphasis on donation is > really starting to change my impression of LibO. A LOT! We went from a > philosophy-driven endeavour which emphasised its focus on freedom (both > speech AND expense) which rarely requested money to a seemingly > money-hungry enterprise that wants more donations - more donations - > MORE DONATIONS! > > I know donations are our lifeblood, so don't get me wrong, but I think > we should be doing this in a much more elegant way than banner-ads / > home-page-hugging mentions of donations and never-ending mentions of > money. Firefox does quite well by emphasising it's "community of > volunteers" which makes you feel like supporting them, rather than > all-consuming "donate NOW" instructions. Again, just my humble, and > always controversial, opinions and nothing more. That's an issue that should be discussed on the website-list or on Foundation- discuss-list. We need donations to run the services, because they eat up a lot of money (and not-payed time of volunteers: but therefor we need no money). Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Discussion about Extensions-Site-Layout
Hi Nik, *, Am Samstag, 22. Oktober 2011, 17:01:18 schrieb Nik: > Hi Andreas, all, > > as promised, a mockup; > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:PROP_ExtensionsSite_111022NS.jpg > nice shot. I'm already thinking about the header and the logo. See my reply to your previous mail. > I've kept it realistic and in-line with the current site format/contents > so that it would be easier to implement. I need for the implementation your set of colours. Then I could look what's posible. It would be easy to change the colour of the header. The header colour of the donation portlet could be hard coded. I don't know yet, if it is posible to change the colour of the button (will see). The explanation inside the donation portlet could be moved to the top. But I placed it to the bottom, because I want to bring the ways of donation more in foreground. > The search box could always be moved back outside the Navbar if it > causes hassles to implement. I have no idea yet. I had to try out, what is currently posible. > I envisage that the "only in current section" and other search options > (categories) would pop up upon clicking the "plus" alongside the search > field. Similarly, the full list of languages be made visible upon > clicking the down-arrow next to the current language. Hmm, I think that would cause greater changes in the code of Plone itself. > I have more adventurous ideas, but they can wait. > > That gets the ball rolling. Let me know what you think. I had to look, how much efford it is to implement the footer of the site in your ordering. To try it out, I need first the code of the grey that you used in your mockup. Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Discussion about Extensions-Site-Layout
Hi Nik, Am Freitag, 21. Oktober 2011, 16:12:29 schrieb Nik: > Hi Andreas, > > On 11.10.08 05:24, Andreas Mantke wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > the new extensions-site is in a test-mode since some weeks now. We have > > already worked on a header graphic for the site. This is online now. But > > maybe there are some ideas for improvements of the sites layout. I hope > > to get some proposals / mockups from the "design-experts" here ;-) > > > > You can find the site here at the moment: > > http://extensions-test.libreoffice.org > > > > Regards, > > Andreas > > I'd be happy to chip in a mock-up soon, but could you do me one favour > in advance; > > (I'm sorry to sound like a stubborn and difficult Designer, even though > I am, but ...) > could you reinstate the original extensions logo? > ...this one: > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/cgi_img_auth.php/7/7e/ExtensionsLogo_110 > 712NS.png > hmm. It's easy to replace the current logo. But in my opinion the header of the site need an eyecatcher, doesn't he? I think the visitor of the site should get very fast an idea what the site is for. I'm not a designer and thus I'm asking here to get some deeper insights. (...) > I'm being nit-picky. I'm sorry. I'll be quiet now. I got your explanation and it's not nit-picking for me. But my question above remains. Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Discussion about Extensions-Site-Layout
Hi Alexander, *, Am Montag, 10. Oktober 2011, 18:52:46 schrieb Andreas Mantke: > Hi Alexander, > > Am Montag, 10. Oktober 2011, 16:04:37 schrieb alexander.wi...@zoho.com: > > Hi, > > > > I did another mockup, I hope it wouldn't be too hard to make it real: > > > > http://ubuntuone.com/031AWeVXE6uLsDe9TFLnyf > > > > I added the motif similar to nik's design, replaced the logo and changed > > to color of the navigation bar. > > > > Would it be possible to have links to both repositories on each site? > > could you please upload your proposals to our wiki? I can't reach your > resource at the moment. Thus I couldn't comment on it. the resource is available again now. But it would be nice, if the proposal would be on the site for design improvements of the extensions-site, that I created some days ago. Then everyone could make comments on your proposal and they get not lost. It's currently not posible to put the extensions and templates in one repository together. I explained that a long time ago on the websites-list and maybe on this list. That would cause trouble with the search engine, because you get a mix of extensions and templates if you search for all categories in one of the parts (templates / extensions). Thus both currently had to be in different Plone sites. It is no issue to change the logo in the header, but Olivier commented that the header is too high. Thus the height of the logo should be smaller. Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Discussion about Extensions-Site-Layout
Hi Alexander, Am Montag, 10. Oktober 2011, 16:04:37 schrieb alexander.wi...@zoho.com: > Hi, > > I did another mockup, I hope it wouldn't be too hard to make it real: > > http://ubuntuone.com/031AWeVXE6uLsDe9TFLnyf > > I added the motif similar to nik's design, replaced the logo and changed > to color of the navigation bar. > > Would it be possible to have links to both repositories on each site? could you please upload your proposals to our wiki? I can't reach your resource at the moment. Thus I couldn't comment on it. Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Discussion about Extensions-Site-Layout
Hi, Am Samstag, 8. Oktober 2011, 21:53:18 schrieb Andreas Mantke: (...) > about your comment, that the first lines (entry) of the homepage are to > wide, there is only the solution, that we create or activate a portlet on > the right side of the homepage. There are already portlets for events and > news available. But this means, that we had to add news and events to the > site. > We can also think about a portlet that points to the newest or highest > rated extensions. We then need to create such a portlet. I had then to > investigate, how difficult that would be. or we can add a donate portlet. I did such thing for PayPal for the German association. Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Discussion about Extensions-Site-Layout
Hi Olivier, *, Am Freitag, 7. Oktober 2011, 21:32:09 schrieb Olivier R.: > Hello all, > > Speaking as the new co-administrator of the extensions website, here are my > remarks about the current layout. > And as a picture is worth a thousand words… > > http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n3403858/extensions-website-sugge > stions.png about your comment, that the first lines (entry) of the homepage are to wide, there is only the solution, that we create or activate a portlet on the right side of the homepage. There are already portlets for events and news available. But this means, that we had to add news and events to the site. We can also think about a portlet that points to the newest or highest rated extensions. We then need to create such a portlet. I had then to investigate, how difficult that would be. Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Discussion about Extensions-Site-Layout
Hi Olivier, *, Am Freitag, 7. Oktober 2011, 21:32:09 schrieb Olivier R.: > Hello all, > > Speaking as the new co-administrator of the extensions website, here are my > remarks about the current layout. > And as a picture is worth a thousand words… > > http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n3403858/extensions-website-sugge > stions.png I looked over it. There are a fast to solve issue: the unused space in the header. The logo is currently to wide and to high. I can shrink it to 452 x 59 px and the unused space will be much smaller. I created a new site in the wiki for the design-proposals: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Extensions-website-design-improvements You can see a screenshot of the site with the smaller logo in this section: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Extensions-website-design-improvements#Logo Please add your comments also there. Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-design] Discussion about Extensions-Site-Layout
Hi all, the new extensions-site is in a test-mode since some weeks now. We have already worked on a header graphic for the site. This is online now. But maybe there are some ideas for improvements of the sites layout. I hope to get some proposals / mockups from the "design-experts" here ;-) You can find the site here at the moment: http://extensions-test.libreoffice.org Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] LibreOffice Presentation Templates
Hi Christoph, *, Am Montag, 19. September 2011, 21:13:09 schrieb Christoph Noack: (...) > By the way, does anybody know how long to wait if I request approval for > the "project" in the Template Center? I've clicked on it yesterday, but > still no approval ... thus no chance to upload anything. Maybe I did it > wrong, but I was also unable to locate documentation for that. it depends on my available spare time at the moment. There are place for some more reviewer volunteers. I changed the metadata of the project from English to language neutral, because that is currently the needed setting, thus user with all language setting could see your project and the releases. You can go ahead now with creating a release and uploading the file. Please check the metadata of the release-site and the downloadable file, that they are language neutral (not English or another language). This is an issue with Lingua Plone, that I'm aware of. I had to file a bug report for this in the next days ;-) Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-design] Logo for extension-website changed
Hi all, for technical reason the extension and the template repository had to split of. I changed the logo of the extension site now back to point only to extensions. I changed the extension string (graphic) a bit, thus the X is more prominent. The string is vertical in an another position yet. Any comments, suggestions for improvements? Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Logo for Extension and Template Repository Site
Hi Bernhard, *, Am Freitag, 5. August 2011, 00:40:35 schrieb Bernhard Dippold: > Hi Andreas, all, > > Andreas Mantke schrieb: (...) > Thanks for your explanation. Even if this is more a topic for the > website list: Does this mean that sub-categories are not possible with > the PloneSoftwareCenter? > > There are already some sub-categories listed on the wiki page: > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Extensions-website#Categories_for_templa > tes > they don't display as subcategories in the drop down box. But if you are an author of an extension / template you can mark more than one category. Fullfill this your needs? > If it would be possible to have Extensions and Templates as main > categories (I'd add Galleries as third one in future), all the present > categories could be moved to sub-categories. > We can have Galleries as an own PloneSoftwareCenter but with the same limits about the search routine. The search by all categories will display every product inside the whole instance. > Depending on plone several level of sub-categories might be possible and > searchable, but I don't have any idea of the background. > > > Thus I need to different logo (one for the extension-repo and > > > > another one for the template part). > > Understood - at least for the moment there is no other possibility. > So it is. (...) > > What about stressing more the x in extension like a big green X > > (Xtension) in the mode of an eyecatcher? > > Something like I did in my first proposal? > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibO_Extensions_Templates_Logo.png > > > We could do the same with the T for templates in the other site. > > Andrew already created a combined logo with (modified) triangles: > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/cgi_img_auth.php/1/1e/Templates_logo.svg > I like the dottet T more than the rectangle. Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: General thoughts about the Extension handling (was: Re: [libreoffice-design] Logo for Extension and Template Repository Site)
Hi Christoph, Am Mittwoch, 3. August 2011, 23:36:42 schrieb Christoph Noack: (...) > The issue is - what is an "extension"? It could be a software feature, > some dictionaries, cliparts or even templates (or collections of > templates). But, templates will also be provided separately ... > for me it is every thing that is handled from the Extension Manager, thus *.oxt. > So, basically, we can ship everything packed in an extension - that's up > to the developers. Furthermore, something I thought about when working > on the download page, I don't know why we currently separate the > downloads for e.g. the basic LibO package, the DVDs, the LibO-Box, ... > > Mmh (attention: pure brainstorming ahead), how about a "LibreOffice > Download Center" (or LibreOffice Software Center) that consists of: > * LibreOffice > * Extension (Packs) (categorized: features, templates, > clipart, ...) > * Individual items: > * Templates > * Clipart > * ... > That would be a goal for the future, but that needs a feature request for the Plone Software Center and a developer that implements it. > The "straighforward" download should still be available via the normal > LibreOffice page, but all specific downloads could be handled via such a > portal. > > Would that be something for a long term goal? Yes. Maybe we can speak about that in Paris ;-) Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Logo for Extension and Template Repository Site
Hi Christoph, *, Am Dienstag, 2. August 2011, 15:52:00 schrieb Christoph Noack: > Hi all, > > I'm currently sitting in the garden (without Internet access and thus no > chance to access the graphics at the moment) and would like to add some > thoughts to this discussion. > > Am Sonntag, den 31.07.2011, 23:12 +0200 schrieb Astron: > > Hi Andreas, Bernhard, everyone else following this, > > > > as I said in my last mail, I have found Nik's SVG and now based my new > > logo proposal on it. Here is the outcome, still certainly not perfect > > and still using the metaphor with the slash-dotted lines for > > templates. > because of technical issues with the searching in the PloneSoftwareCenter, which searches through the whole Extension-Template-Repository-Site and display under "any category" all extensions and templates, I decided to create a second site to split off the two parts. Thus I need to different logo (one for the extension-repo and another one for the template part). The two sites inside one zeoserver are currently up and runnig (but not under the final URL). > [...] > > Mmh, I've thought a bit about the slash-dotted line - how to combine > what we currently have, or what we can do about the recent template > icons, the old icons (still used in some places) and the template > repository logo. So, here are some ideas open for discussion (if you > like). > > Idea 1: How about turning the characters for "Extensions & Templates" > into the known items puzzle piece (='X') and spiral binding (=left side > of 'E'). This would match the recent LibO styling. > What about stressing more the x in extension like a big green X (Xtension) in the mode of an eyecatcher? We could do the same with the T for templates in the other site. Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Logo for Extension and Template Repository Site
Hi, first thank you for feedback. Am Mittwoch, 27. Juli 2011, 14:37:52 schrieb Astron: > Hi. > > That was quick and it looks quite good (for now). > > I don't know, how much of this is already on your to do, but I thought > I'd give some feedback for the page: > * Privacy Policy and Imprint should not be in the main menu (only in the > footer) * Can you make the main menu font a bit larger? > * The "Center" in "Extension Center"/"Template Center" seems to be > unnecessary to me, I think it would be cleaner as just "Extensions" > and "Templates" > * The search function is structured like an advanced search, I think > most users will want to try free search first (I know there is a > search bar up top, just duplicate its functionality in a part of the > UI that is more easily visible) > * You have to login to "Like" things, logging in is vital for reviews, > but shouldn't necessary here > * Clicking on "Extension Center" should show all available extensions > (not come up with an empty view) > * every Extension should have an icon—where there is nothing we should > have a standard icon (for now, the X and the T from the logo could be > enough) > > Sorry that this list got long... No issue. Can you please add your ideas to the wiki: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Extensions- website#Todos_.2F_Proposals_for_Improvements Then other contributors can comment and add their ideas. Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Logo for Extension and Template Repository Site
Hi, Am Dienstag, 26. Juli 2011, 11:04:19 schrieb Astron: > Hi Andreas, > > I have uploaded a logo based on Nikash's with "Templates" added. Take > a look here: > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Exttemplogo.png > > Source file is here: > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Exttemplogo.svg > > Since I had to recreate it from the PNG Nikash uploaded, > refinement-wise it is quite a bit behind the Nikash's original. I am > also not as good with graphical tools as Nikash is. And also, please > note that I will not try to make this logo any better. So if you use > this at all, you might want to make it a temporary solution. many thanks for the new cool logo. I inserted it into the layout of the extension and template site. You can find it here: http://extensions2.libreoffice.org/ Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-design] Logo for Extension and Template Repository Site
Hi all, I'm working on the layout for the new extension and template repository of LibreOffice / TDF. I worked currently with a logo that only covers the extension part of the site. I need a final logo, that covers the whole content of the site (exentsions _and_ templates). Please extend the current work and create a new logo. I posted my current draft of the site on my blog: http://andreasmaooo.blogger.de/stories/1859209/ (It's a screenshot from my development site with nearly no configuration of the Plone product that I used for the repository). In my opinion the idea behind the logo is fine. It needs only an extension for the template content. Any volunteers for this work? Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Logo for the Extension and Template Repository Website
Hi Marc, *, Am Donnerstag, 14. Juli 2011, 23:34:03 schrieb Marc Paré: (...) > > Looks great and works really well from a user point of view. > thanks. > 1. I was just wondering, when someone submits an extension or template, > they will obviously need to supply an email address or URL. How are > these managed? I don't see any public display of extension/template > author's email or website on the site. Would it make any sense to have > the website URL showing somewhere in the description (if there is one > attached to the extension/template)? This would allow users a way of > communicating with the extension/template author, should users have a > need to speak to them. I do notice that the submitters do need to add > their email address and URL on the submission form. > The author of a extension / template had to provide a mail address. It is currently not shown. But there is a comment function available that gives the user a way for feedback. > 2. I like the amount of information given to the user as well as the > "Self-Certification" section. > We had to decide, if we should change the categories for certification. We can delete the current ones (or some of them) and add new ones. > 3. Another question is the "Likes and dislikes" section (top right) > where it says to "log-in". Are your plans are to allow people to > register to the Externsions site in order to place their "Like" or > "Dislike". Is there any other advantage to have people register? > Otherwise, people will wonder why we are collecting names for this. > Yes. But if we find a way that there is no registration necessary we need something like captcha to get valuable results. > Nice to have the site to finally start the "official" repository of > extensions/templates. Great work! Thanks again and good to have your above feedback here. Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-design] Logo for the Extension and Template Repository Website
Hi all, I have set up the new repository for LibreOffice extensions and templates with a blobstorage, where the binary files are stored. I had to create two new directories for this purpose. Now every thing works. The site is at http://extensions2.libreoffice.org/ I'll going to create a new layout for the site and therefor I need the logo for the site. I know a mockup from Bernhard http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibO_Extensions_Templates_Logo.png and now a design from Nik: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/cgi_img_auth.php/8/8e/ExtensionsLogo_Cleaned_110712NS.svg I looked over the last one and missed the template part of the website. Is there a chance to get a design of the last one that covers both (extensions and templates)? Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Logo for the new extension-template-repository?
Hi, Am Montag, 20. Juni 2011, 23:47:53 schrieb Vamsi Kodali: (...) > @Andreas - Your website design is nice and clean. What do you think > about changing the colors of tabbed links bar to green so that it > becomes more consistent with the website design of other LibO sites? that's the Plone Sunburst layout. The green is in my mind ;-) Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Logo for the new extension-template-repository?
Hi all, a short update: Am Sonntag, 19. Juni 2011, 20:56:45 schrieb Andreas Mantke: > Hi all, > > in the last days I get a new environment for a extension and template > repository for LibreOffice working. You can find the new site currently at > http://kermit.documentfoundation.org:9089/LibreOffice-Extensions-and-Templa > tes/ > the site is now located at http://extension2.libreoffice.org > There is only a placeholder for a logo on the site at the moment. A short > time ago there was a proposal for a logo for the new repo but the > discussion stops. Maybe with the new site at the doors a discussion how > the logo of the new site should look like is easier ;-) > Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-design] Logo for the new extension-template-repository?
Hi all, in the last days I get a new environment for a extension and template repository for LibreOffice working. You can find the new site currently at http://kermit.documentfoundation.org:9089/LibreOffice-Extensions-and-Templates/ There is only a placeholder for a logo on the site at the moment. A short time ago there was a proposal for a logo for the new repo but the discussion stops. Maybe with the new site at the doors a discussion how the logo of the new site should look like is easier ;-) Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Fw: Re: [libreoffice-design] Request: Design of a Logo for Extension-site
Hi Christoph, Vamsi, *, Am Montag, 6. Juni 2011, 22:58:25 schrieb christ...@dogmatux.com: (...) > > Just a quick thought - do we really need an additional logo for the site? > > Wouldn't it be better to make the LibO main branding a bit stronger? By > > the way, how will the site itself be called? > > it mustn't be a different logo at all. I think it had to be something that make it clear for the user that it is the repository site and that it belongs to the LibreOffice-/TDF-Family. > > Instead of a site logo, how about putting emphasis on the single items? > > For example: at OOo we made the fault to confuse the users how > > extensions are visualized. On the extension site, we had some kind of > > yellow Sputnik, all the icons within LibreOffice/OOo feature a jigsaw > > puzzle piece. > > > > Concerning the latter, I think the metaphor is okay. So my proposal is to > > use a blue (LibO blue) puzzle piece for this sub-section. Anything > > different would be inconsistent with our software. Or, the other way > > round, we have the great chance to correct a mistake from the past :-) > > > > Same for the templates ... will omit that. Still, it is a phone keyboard In my opinion it is important that the logo and the layout of the site (colors etc.) shows the user, that he is on a resorce of TDF and that there is the repository for extensions and templates. I posted a request for a layout on the website-list. There seemed currently no reply to my posting. Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Request: Design of a Logo for Extension-site
Hi Vamsi, *, Am Sonntag, 5. Juni 2011, 21:02:39 schrieb Vamsi Kodali: > What do you think about this: > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibO_Extensions_v1.png > I made it in LibO Draw. Source file is here: > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibO_Extensions_v1.odg that's a nice proposal. I'm looking for some comments / discussions of your proposal on this list. Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Request: Design of a Logo for Extension-site
Hi Klaus-Jürgen, *, Am Samstag, 4. Juni 2011, 10:40:39 schrieb ol klaus-jürgen weghorn: > Hi Andreas, > > Am 04.06.2011 10:09, schrieb Andreas Mantke: > > Hi all, > > > > I have worked (with the support of one of the core developers of Plone) > > on a new environment for LibreOffice-Extensions, that we can setup on > > one of the servers of The Document Foundation. The new environment is > > currently on my local PC but will be soon available online. > > > > I need for the further work on this new environment a logo for the > > LibreOffice- Extension-Center. In my opion this new environment could > > also host a repository for templates. Thus the logo should represent > > both - extensions and templates. > > Can you give us a short expected time plan of this? > Of course: yesterday, but be realistic I'm realistic: last weekend ;-) > : > We need mindst one week for the proposals, three days for voting > But realistic: as much time as you need. I hope to get it asap, but we can run the new site first without a final logo (like http://frodev.org). It would good to know the size of the logo (because I had to customize the header of the site). > And on your issue it will be better to have a little bit more time > because it is really important to get a good symbol for the outsiders. > +1 (that's the reason why I ask on this list). > > There is also a need for a first design scheme of the new site. But that > > should be another thread. Where should I upload some pictures of the > > current site (without customisation). > > What do you think about making a new wiki page for "Extensions" to work > on the whole stuff? Or ask someone on the website-ml? I can't do it today. I can ask there. But I think the wiki page should named Extensions-Site, because I don't want to see any extension there. Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-design] Request: Design of a Logo for Extension-site
Hi all, I have worked (with the support of one of the core developers of Plone) on a new environment for LibreOffice-Extensions, that we can setup on one of the servers of The Document Foundation. The new environment is currently on my local PC but will be soon available online. I need for the further work on this new environment a logo for the LibreOffice- Extension-Center. In my opion this new environment could also host a repository for templates. Thus the logo should represent both - extensions and templates. There is also a need for a first design scheme of the new site. But that should be another thread. Where should I upload some pictures of the current site (without customisation). Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] "Tool like "SmartArt" (was: Re: [libreoffice-design] "SmartArt" into libreoffice? - sorry this time without html)
Hi Christoph, *, Am Mittwoch, 16. März 2011, 22:38:52 schrieb Christoph Noack: > Hi Andreas, > > that's cool ... thanks for the research! > > Am Mittwoch, den 16.03.2011, 22:12 +0100 schrieb Andreas Mantke: > [...] > > > All material should have been on this site: > > http://www.ooocon.org/index.php/ooocon/index/schedConfs/archive > > > > But I know that there was a misconfiguration and all the old material was > > invisible (or deleted). Maybe the organisers of the OOoCon in Orvieto > > can point us to another resource, where we can view the videos and > > presentations. > > It seems that the presentation itself hasn't been deleted, I was able to > retrieve it via: > http://conference.services.openoffice.org/index.php/ooocon/2009/paper/view/ > 34/91 > nice to know that not every thing is lost yet ;-) > Unfortunately, I was unable to find the videos (which should reside at > [1]) - maybe the room wasn't equipped that well. > > Cheers, > Christoph > > [1] http://media.lscube.org/oooconf I was in that room and sat direct aside the camaraman. Thus I hope we can get that material somewhere. Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] "Tool like "SmartArt" (was: Re: [libreoffice-design] "SmartArt" into libreoffice? - sorry this time without html)
Hi Christopher, *, Am Mittwoch, 16. März 2011, 11:33:41 schrieb Christopher Stark: > This sounds good. If somebody already invested time in this. > Is there a link or something to that Orvieto-presentation? > > I also had a closer look at the smartart-functionality now and think > it's really a great tool. Not that I normally adore M$ products - but I > think this makes working with diagrams much, much easier especially for > less sophisticated users and supposedly also increases productivity for > all users. I don't know currently where we can get the presentation about this (not finished) work in Orvieto but you can checkout the source code from the subversion repo: svn checkout svn://svn.services.openoffice.org/ooo/cws/impressintelligentgroup01 The code is written on the basic of an old milestone so that it had to be adapted to the current codeline. You can find a description of the concept on a wiki page: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/IntelligentGroup If I remember correctly the presentation didn't covers more than this explanation. I think it was mostly a click and run presentation. Maybe there is a video available about this slot. All material should have been on this site: http://www.ooocon.org/index.php/ooocon/index/schedConfs/archive But I know that there was a misconfiguration and all the old material was invisible (or deleted). Maybe the organisers of the OOoCon in Orvieto can point us to another resource, where we can view the videos and presentations. Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] "SmartArt" into libreoffice? - sorry this time without html
Hi Christoph, *, Am Montag, 14. März 2011, 22:15:06 schrieb Christoph Noack: (...) > I don't know whether/how to ask the developers for that. It's a huge > task ... It seems that we are not even able to provide this via the > Gallery, since the gallery doesn't support ODGs. Sigh. > > But, what we currently miss, are high quality templates - some guys here > started to create some. Maybe they need some help. And this would be as > important as having SmartArt capabilities. > > What do the others think? I know that there was already a old childworkspace in the CVS of OOo. It was a Chinese developer that started the work with a smartart implementation for OOo. He presented his work in Orvieto. I can search for the data of this childworkspace and the explanation in the OOo-Wiki, if that helps. Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] Motif draft
Hi Daniel, *, Am Freitag, 11. März 2011, 15:05:34 schrieb Daniel Merker: > Hi all, > > > > I have posted my submission to the wiki: > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Daniel%27s_Motif_-_Attempt_2.png > I think it is an interesting proposal but I'm afraid if I look on it a bit closer I get some eye issue. It seemed to me if I see the text twice and so it is not very eye friendly for me. I can't look longer onto the graphic. Just my 2 € cent Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-design] Artwork (button) for a TDF-Donation-slide in a presentation
Hi all, I'll attend the Cebit 2011 from Thursday to Saturday and give there a presentation about LibreOffice Portable. I want to incorporate a special slide with artwork (button) for our TDF donation challenge. Is there currently something available that I can use for this purpose? Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
