Re: [libreoffice-design] [approval request] Challenge banner proposals by Paulo
Hi, Am 25.02.2011 01:05, schrieb Bernhard Dippold: Hi Marc, Paulo, all 2nd topic: Approval of Paulo's skyscraper banner I would ask you to approve the skyscraper (160x600px) vertical banner as "official" design element to be used on external websites: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibreOffice-The-Challenge-Banner-Paulo-v2-dark.png This banner is perfect in my eyes: It is distinct from our branding (still don't know if can't create design following our branding, but showing clearly that the artwork doesn't want to pretend to be on a TDF site, but link to us), but keeps (even in the dark theme) the clear, friendly and open language of our branding. It contains elements dedicated to this special action item. Even on the dark theme the main tone is a lighter grey. The very distinct font in the middle part contrasts very well with the bold characters of the upper and lower part. Several people already posted their positive opinion on this proposal, so I ask all of you to vote by "+1" or "-1" if you want to present this vertical banner as part of the (still to be created) "official design/marketing material repository". My vote is: +1 +1 for the design but I think that the text "Help us fund the foundation!" is a little bit out of time for this banner. We have 96% of the money needed for the Stiftung itself. Maybe we write: "Help us encourage the foundation" or "Help us boost the foundation". Or something which shows the people outside that the foundation now needs money to do the work to stay with/against the others. -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] "SmartArt" into libreoffice?
Hi Christopher, Am 14.03.2011 16:04, schrieb Christopher Stark: Christopher Stark Straße yy z x-Stadt Tel +49 (0)xx xx xx xx xx Mobil +40 (0)xx xx xx xx It is better not to send such signatures to a mailing list. Please have a look here: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Local_Mailing_Lists/de#Mailinglisten -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] DFD banner for our website
Hi @, Am 23.02.2011 19:47, schrieb ol klaus-jürgen weghorn: Hi, Marc started a discussion on the website-ml about a banner for Document Freedom Day [1] on our website. Matt started the development of the banner [2] and I put it on a wikipage for discussions: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Donate_and_DFD_Banner Daniel gave one more banner [3]. I try to get it in the wiki later, if nobody else would put it right in. As Marc suggested we should do the discussion about the banner itself on the design-ml. So here we are. Work on. gr k-j [1] http://go.mail-archive.com/TanryhpE6kybhazWqcpUC4JuVko= [2] http://go.mail-archive.com/q9vtiHJMEAlCVtxLg5PEv4FH9qM= [3] http://go.mail-archive.com/A0P431xqWQbH5_PS8vrCk7xnINc= I want to remark this thread. March 30th will be soon. Do we want a DFD banner or not? The banner discussion is here [4]. [4] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Donate_and_DFD_Banner I'm CC'ing the website-ml for remembering the thread, but I think the discussion should be on the design-ml. -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] [VOTE] DFD banner for our website
Hi Bernhard, No vote is a vote too. So I would stop the voting. What do you (all) think about this: We only put the right banner for the next two days: My proposal number 2: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Donate_and_DFD_Banner The problem is: We should not decide about the banner in a fast way. This banner (without the DFD but with the text) should be our banner for the next time. We must/want to change the current banner and develop a new. So let us put this discussion to develop our new website banner. Am 29.03.2011 00:18, schrieb Bernhard Dippold: Hi all, based on the newest information (6 months TDF) I updated my last proposal. You have 31st as DFD-date. Should'nt it be 30th? Klaus-Jürgen added a new version to the wiki too. As DFD is tomorrow already, we need to come to an agreement. So please join this discussion / voting. -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-design] First adaption of the motif in "real life"
Hi Bernhard, Am 06.04.2011 10:10, schrieb Bernhard Dippold: Hi Helio, all, We should collect all these designs on the wiki. Anybody has time to do so? I will try do to it later the day if no one else will do it. I'd imagine a page like http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Existing_Designs Better would be: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Existing_Designs Including elements from these designs as well as ideas of our team members we should be able to create a consistent branding design for all areas of visual LibreOffice representation. With such a design we can approach the design teams of the different implementations with proposals leading to the chance of a broader adaption of the "official" design in future. Should we include this idea in the What-we-need page or is it not realistic at all? We will see a little bit later if it is necessary. -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-design] First adaption of the motif in "real life"
Hi Drew, Am 06.04.2011 11:54, schrieb drew: On Wed, 2011-04-06 at 10:18 +0200, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol wrote: Hi Bernhard, Am 06.04.2011 10:10, schrieb Bernhard Dippold: Hi Helio, all, We should collect all these designs on the wiki. Anybody has time to do so? I will try do to it later the day if no one else will do it. Greetings K-j A couple of pages I know of, with links to artwork: Thx for it. I will have a look. http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/LibOOnDVD (out of thread: Maybe we should rename this page to http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice-Box This is the starting page when you follow the wikimenu 'LibreOffice-Box'.) and the mis-named page: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Americas_LibreOffice_DVD (page will be renamed from Americas to North American soon ) also of interest perhaps: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Ideas/Distribution (already out of date...) and http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice-Box/pt-br I don't find content there for our thread which we don't have at all. [1,2] But it isn't so easy to read and understand a foreign language which I haven't learned. [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/cgi_img_auth.php/8/82/Capa_boxdvd_regular.png [2] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Etiqueta_boxdvd.png -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-design] First adaption of the motif in "real life"
Hi Bernhard, Am 06.04.2011 12:14, schrieb Bernhard Dippold: Hi Klaus-Jürgen, all Klaus-Jürgen Weghorn wrote: Hi Bernhard, Am 06.04.2011 10:10, schrieb Bernhard Dippold: Hi Helio, all, We should collect all these designs on the wiki. Anybody has time to do so? I will try do to it later the day if no one else will do it. Great! (but I still hope for somebody else as I konw about the time you spend on our wiki and website...) Of course. If someone wants to help me or if someone wants to take the whole page: I have started to develope the page under http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:K-j/lo-la I'd imagine a page like http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Existing_Designs Better would be: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Existing_Designs I thought of an internal design resource - but you're right, it should be on the main level. -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] North American Community DVD - cover art updated
Hi Drew, Am 11.04.2011 11:02, schrieb drew: Sorry, meant to send that mail to the Design list also..so Hi Design list, Find our latest iteration on the wiki, or the full print ready file referenced below. Again, this is a good time for any comments.. Will the DVD be a NorthAmerican "LibreOffice-Box"? Maybe I'm wrong but when I'm looking at the logo it may be different from the branding [1]. The logo should be only the Document symbol, only the text "LibreOffice" or the symbol with text "LibreOffice The DocumentFoundation". Or is the DVD an external DVD? Then the logo is right. [2] [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#Guidelines_and_Best_Practices [2] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#Resources_for_external_use -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Flisol Caracas 2011
Hi Daniel, Am 14.04.2011 05:45, schrieb Daniel Gonzalez: Hi Guys I wanted to share with you the material we did for the 2011 and Flisol Caracas as well as some photos LibreOffice stand and my person:) http://www.flickr.com/photos/back69/ Short question: Are you interested in putting the photo "Pendon LibreOffice" to our page "Existing_Designs" [1]? [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Existing_Designs#Event_Banners After there is a copyright on the photos on flickr, I'm not allowed to do that ;-). -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Design Team Kick-Off Step 4: What We Need - Review, Please
Hi Christoph, *, Am 26.04.2011 23:13, schrieb Christoph Noack: Hi all, a few weeks ago we talked about "What We Need" - everything that eases discussions, helps us to keeps the focus, and helps to provide what others expect (both users and developers *g*). Many people added their thoughts - and I'd like to say a big "thank you" for that. I tried to cluster the items during the last days , but, now I need your help ... @ Everyone: Please look thoroughly through the list and comment if anything is missing or plainly wrong. Please make active use of the "comments / proposed structure" column at the right side of the table. So if you have finished working on the table, please send a quick reply to this list ... even if you think its just fine. At "Other Teams's input" I sorted the list alphabetical and added the Website Team. I'm not sure where to put the items for the website team e.g.: My suggestion is to get a barrierfree web page like it is described here (only German and French): http://cocoate.com/de/barrierefreiheit-und-joomla Maybe this can help to make LibO barrierfree too (I don't know). Is it a item for this page? @ Björn, Thorsten: I've CCed you, since you have been active in some discussions here - could you please scan the table and provide some feedback, please? My hope is that you may have a look at the sections: * Deliverables and Work Results * Cooperation and Communication With Other Teams * LibreOffice Technical Basis Thanks! Some additional notes: * Please consider that this is a list which is based on individual thoughts ... so although I already perceive it to be quite mature, there is nothing "legally binding" at the moment. Quite the contrary, each of the items is meant to be a starting point to find a "works great" solution for our team. * I some cases, I found it very hard to cluster the issues - I did my best, believe me :-) Finally, it was much more important to list each item at all, instead of doing too much refinement what category it might belong to. Finally, it would be great if you could do a "quick check" if one of the items might be something for you - we'll need some people taking care of the issues. This is your chance to poke others for results ;-) To be honest, it means that you care about the progress ... you're not the only one working on it. So pre-pick something interesting for you! :-) Thank you all! Kind regards, Christoph PS: If you are new on this list and unsure what this is about, please have a look at our Design Team Kick-Off page: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Kick-Off -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Status of the Design Team Kick-Off, and a Personal Note
Hi Christoph, Am 05.05.2011 21:37, schrieb Marc Paré: Le 2011-05-05 12:24, Christoph Noack a écrit : Hi all, sorry (in advance) for sending personal stuff to this list. But I think it might be helpful to know that you can enjoy some weeks without my bothering mails :-))) Here are the details: http://luxate.blogspot.com/2011/05/status-of-design-team-kick-off-and.html Cheers, Christoph Congrats to both of you Christoph! It is always a blessing to have a growing family. Enjoy while they are in your care, they grow so quickly. Hope you are getting enough sleep! :-) 1 Congrats (and many good wishes to the mother and your son) even from me -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] designing a logo for the LibreOffice conference
Hi all, Am 09.05.2011 18:34, schrieb Charles-H. Schulz: Hello Design Team, As you know we will have our first LibreOffice conference in October 2011 in Paris. Do you think it would be possible to design a logo for the event? We may have either one specific logo, or a generic logo for all the future LibreOffice conference with only the name of the location changing or slightly amended graphically. I'm not designer myself, so feel free to jump in. I started a wiki page to collect the thoughts and proposals [1]. And I put in the thoughts of Bernhard and the first proposals of Tobias. [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_conference_logo Feel free to change and add. -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] 'adopt-o-meter' for the download page
Hi Bernhard, Am 18.05.2011 23:48, schrieb Bernhard Dippold: My idea goes the other way round: People interested in downloading should not be handled as part of a certain group (early adopters, home users, corporate users), but everybody should find his/her own position in the graphic and pick the version next to this position. +1 It's not at all a final design - not even a mockup. It's just a visual brainstorming: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Adapt-o-meter.png Please join in and post your thoughts and ideas! Your visual approach says ;-): "We have no functional version for standard users." 3.4.0 is very near to the beta and nightly builds. Comment for website usability of the a-o-m: If we do such a a-o-m we should think of easy and fast changing of the version text after getting up a new version. There should be only one/two click(s) or little textual changes. Will we have many pictures in the background which are enabled when necessary or will we have a changing text which the websities with publisher rights can change easily? The version will change nearly every month [1] or even quicklier. [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan We had for long time the bug on the website that there was only a screenshot with "Beta" on the main page although we have had a stable version because no one made a new screenshot. -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] [VI] designing a logo for the LibreOffice conference
Hi Drew, Am 19.05.2011 15:06, schrieb drew: On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 22:39 +0200, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol wrote: Hi all, Am 09.05.2011 18:34, schrieb Charles-H. Schulz: Hello Design Team, As you know we will have our first LibreOffice conference in October 2011 in Paris. Do you think it would be possible to design a logo for the event? We may have either one specific logo, or a generic logo for all the future LibreOffice conference with only the name of the location changing or slightly amended graphically. I'm not designer myself, so feel free to jump in. I started a wiki page to collect the thoughts and proposals [1]. And I put in the thoughts of Bernhard and the first proposals of Tobias. [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_conference_logo Feel free to change and add. Hi, I'm working on a web banner type graphic [1] - not really a logo - would you want that in the list there I think we should have only one wiki page for all graphics for the conference(s). So change the page (and the name of the page) as you think it is necessary. And - of course - put your banners on this page. So everybody can see and compare the whole work. (seems like this more a brainstorming list), I wanted to make a page like the motif page. First step: brainstorming and proposals Second step: votings Third step: showing the voted logos, banners etc. or just upload it someplace separate. Thanks Drew [1] quick prototypes, not ready to submit yet http://lo-portal.us/temp/banner-logo-people-2a.png http://lo-portal.us/temp/banner-logo-people-3a.png I don't think that this right: "Conférence Internationale Uno" Conférence Internationale" is french "Internationale Uno" is Italian Better (?): "Premiére Conférence Internationale" But I never learned Italian and my French is very terrible so don't I really know it. -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] [VI] designing a logo for the LibreOffice conference
Am 19.05.2011 16:11, schrieb drew: On Thu, 2011-05-19 at 16:03 +0200, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol wrote: I don't think that this right: "Conférence Internationale Uno" I have no doubt you are correct - but it was a good place holder. Ok then ;-). -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] [VI] designing a logo for the LibreOffice conference
Hi Drew, Am 19.05.2011 15:06, schrieb drew: [1] quick prototypes, not ready to submit yet http://lo-portal.us/temp/banner-logo-people-2a.png http://lo-portal.us/temp/banner-logo-people-3a.png Looks very nice, especially 3a. For me the text in 3a is better sorted and have better eye-catchers than in 2a. Another idea for your prototypes: Can you make the 3a without the green frame as 4a? -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [VI] designing a logo for the LibreOffice conference
Hi Marc, Am 20.05.2011 07:03, schrieb Marc Paré: Le 2011-05-19 10:51, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol a écrit : Am 19.05.2011 16:11, schrieb drew: On Thu, 2011-05-19 at 16:03 +0200, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol wrote: I don't think that this right: "Conférence Internationale Uno" I have no doubt you are correct - but it was a good place holder. Ok then ;-). We do have a "Conference Kit" wiki page[1] where we are trying to collect all items needed for a conference as well as a catalogue (links) of previously created LibreOffice materials. I will be going over it over the next couple of weeks and updating it. [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/ConferenceKit Thanks for the link. Should we put a link on this page to the logo page [2]? [2] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_conference_logo I put a link of your informations to the Conference page [3]. [3] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Paris_Conference -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] designing a logo for the LibreOffice conference
Hi Nik, *, Am 25.05.2011 16:53, schrieb Nik: And I think the location deserves it's own independent logo every year, otherwise we're just being lazy =) I've carried on the substituted-letter idea by replacing the letter "A" in "Paris" with the Eiffel tower. In our greens. There are 2 compositions to choose from (1A and 1B) but I'm leaning towards the latter. Let me know what you think. Hope all is well (I've been very absent lately, my apologies). I took your logo (because I like it) and added the Motif and changed some little things like "Paris" from green to grey. -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Flying the ship... [please everybody, post a short reply]
Hi, oh, I wouldn't call this job as a "lead" or "senior team member" but "second assistant facility manager" (2. Hilfshausmeister) who has to make the dirty jobs. ;-) I think you already do the job in absence of Christoph and you will do the job in the right way. So go on with The Flying Dutchman, we will follow and will mutiny if you want to get the plunder for your one. Maybe we should tell our decision to the steering commitee. -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] [VI] [Vote] Official LibreOffice conference logo
Hi all, Am 28.05.2011 01:10, schrieb Bernhard Dippold: So these are the proposals: 01 Tobias Bernard 02 Bernhard Dippold 03 Nikash Singh 1a (conference part below the logo) 04 Nikash Singh 1b (conference part at the right. 05 Klaus-Jürgen Weghorn 06 Helio S. Ferreira (07 Tobias Bernhard first draft not specific for the present conference) I know I'm really too late but I mixed a new logo with Bernhards, Niks and mine: 08 Klaus-Jürgen Weghorn 2 Best regards Bernhard PS: If I missed one of the proposals, please add it to the wiki page and mention it here too... Not missed but even late from me. -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] 'adopt-o-meter' for the download page
Hi all, Am 23.05.2011 15:49, schrieb Christoph Noack: Hi Jan, all! Just a short question ... Am Donnerstag, den 19.05.2011, 14:28 +0200 schrieb Jan Holesovsky: Hi Bernhard, On 2011-05-18 at 23:48 +0200, Bernhard Dippold wrote: It's not at all a final design - not even a mockup. It's just a visual brainstorming: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Adapt-o-meter.png This is great - serving a big different purpose than I originally thought, though :-) It is very well graphically explaining the overall picture, but I thought more of a tag that you 'see and know'. John's original idea was to have something easy, with high impact, that makes your decision in up to 5 seconds. Something like "I feel more like a corporate user; OK, I'll choose 3.3.2". That's what I hope the 'adopt-o-meter' could do. Mmh, the adopt-o-meter shows it nicely (which is good), but the decision itself has to be done by the user (how to select the desired LibO version, where do I find it, ...). Can this be somehow aligned with the download selector on the website? Something like: * "Official Release, for home and office use" --> default * "Highly stable, for corporate use" * "Newest Features, for early adopters" So, the users may decide - but don't need to. And the decision to go for (e.g.) stability is directly tied to a certain version - no additional lookups. We should force this thread for now. The version 3.4.0 will be ready early in time. And the website team decides wether they want to have one download page or two. So it can be important for them to have such a adapt-o-meter for their decision. My vote: Bernhard's because: it is the most reliable. -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] 'adopt-o-meter' for the download page
Hi Vamsi, all me again: I started a wiki page [1] for the stuff because I think such a a-o-m is necessary for the web page. If I have forgotten or overread something please add and change it. Maybe we should change the name "Adopt-o-meter". [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Adopt-o-meter Am 02.06.2011 00:37, schrieb Vamsi Kodali: In case there is any chance of considering other options, please take a look at these: http://flic.kr/p/9Pu51y and http://flic.kr/p/9PrteD I made those on LibO Draw. I can post the original files if there is any interest. Can you put them to the wiki page which I noted above? -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] 'adopt-o-meter' for the download page
Hi Jan, Am 02.06.2011 21:15, schrieb Jan Holesovsky: Hi Vamsi, On 2011-06-02 at 07:51 -0700, Vamsi Kodali wrote: Got it! Thank you. I will upload files and add them to the wiki page you created. Nice - I like your second one :-) http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Vk_aom2.jpg Would be great to use some more neutral color instead of the red (like eg. orange), and also 3.4 should be called "3.4.0", instead of "3.4 RC". Also - would be great to add a title like "Which LibreOffice version is the best for me?" Do you think you can have it today, or early tomorrow? To a clearer understanding: There wasn't any vote and isn't any decision yet from the design team to use this or any other proposal. So we shouldn't use any proposal on an official website to make facts. Also, some more reasonable size would be good, and .png, not .jpg (!) - so that it fits the download page: http://www.libreoffice.org/download/ -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Tabbed Documents
Hi, Am 10.06.2011 22:55, schrieb Patrick Scott: Hi all. What do people think about tabbed documents a la Lotus Symphony. I wouldn't have much use for it myself but I keep seeing the suggestion pop up in the comments on forums and articles etc so it's seems like it might be an important feature for some [and another means of differentiating ourselves from OO and MS Office]. I've looked a few pages back through the archives and couldn't see any mention of it and since I've only been on this list for a couple of days I thought I'd just ask if it was on the radar for LibreOffice. Tabbed Documents in Lotus Symphony: http://static.howtoforge.com/images/IBM_Lotus_Symphony_On_Ubuntu704/pic8.jpg It is an idea the user is familiar to use: Many programs uses such tabs either on the top (like all browsers) or the left (e.g. Notepad++). So there is no need to declare him what he has to do. It is a good idea for me. -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome
Hi Budislav, Am 14.06.2011 01:14, schrieb Budislav Stepanov: I am student of Graphic Designs on University of Novi Sad, part of European University Network, I found this place where I think that i can show my abilities. Primarly I am web designer, but this includes almost all kind of graphic on web or softwere, and the user interface in general.I am willing to help in the further development :) Welcome here. You can inform yourself at our wiki pages and here on ml. There are many open issues on the sectors you named above. As start page have a look: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design The work will come if you want some ;-). But if you want to do something now as a webdesigner please have a look at this threads belonging to our new Extension website: extension website: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/msg04991.html extension logo: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/msg02184.html -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] [VI] Logo for the new extension-template-repository?
Hi Bernhard, Am 25.06.2011 22:22, schrieb Bernhard Dippold: Hi Andreas, all, nobody has any opinion on this topic? Lack of time. Even a "I don't like it" would be a reaction... PS: I created another wiki page to collect the proposals: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Extensions_templates_site_logo using the gallery option of the wiki - quite easy to use, I think... I put two proposals for a logo on the wiki page. -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] [VI] Logo for the new extension-template-repository?
Hi Bernhard, Am 25.06.2011 22:22, schrieb Bernhard Dippold: Hi Andreas, all, nobody has any opinion on this topic? Only a little thing: It is more a web banner than a logo, but very good. -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] [VI] Logo for the new extension-template-repository?
Am 26.06.2011 02:23, schrieb Bernhard Dippold: hi Klaus-Jürgen, * klaus-jürgen weghorn ol schrieb: Hi Bernhard, Am 25.06.2011 22:22, schrieb Bernhard Dippold: Hi Andreas, all, nobody has any opinion on this topic? Only a little thing: It is more a web banner than a logo, but very good. Andreas' request has not been for a mimetype icon that represents the extension on the desktop, but for a logo at the extension / templates website: http://extensions2.libreoffice.org/ Ok, I thought it should be a single symbol like [1]. [1] http://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:OpenOfficeExtensions/List If we combine the "icon" and the "web banner" the page can look like: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Ext-web.PNG To stay consistent with the logo for the LibOCon already used on the website, I kept the same sizes. http://conference.libreoffice.org/ -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] [VI] Logo for the new extension-template-repository?
Hi Marc, Am 26.06.2011 20:57, schrieb Marc Paré: Hi Klaus-Jürgen Le 2011-06-26 11:14, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol a écrit : Am 26.06.2011 02:23, schrieb Bernhard Dippold: hi Klaus-Jürgen, * klaus-jürgen weghorn ol schrieb: Hi Bernhard, Am 25.06.2011 22:22, schrieb Bernhard Dippold: Hi Andreas, all, nobody has any opinion on this topic? Only a little thing: It is more a web banner than a logo, but very good. Andreas' request has not been for a mimetype icon that represents the extension on the desktop, but for a logo at the extension / templates website: http://extensions2.libreoffice.org/ Ok, I thought it should be a single symbol like [1]. [1] http://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:OpenOfficeExtensions/List If we combine the "icon" and the "web banner" the page can look like: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Ext-web.PNG To stay consistent with the logo for the LibOCon already used on the website, I kept the same sizes. http://conference.libreoffice.org/ I like the idea of the icon on the top-left with the "puzzle pieces logo". The colour should change though, it is too pale and difficult to see. Maybe pick a colour that is not already used by the other LibreOffice modules and from the LibreOffice colour set?[1] Christoph proposed a yellow when he talked about the puzzle piece. I fought with the brandings [1] and I didn't found a good colour. Maybe someone can tell me which colour we should try. [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#Colors -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-design] Style-Guide of LO Web-Applications
Hi Bernhard, Robert, all, Am 27.06.2011 12:07, schrieb Bernhard Dippold: Hi Robert, all, Robert Einlse wrote: Hi Design-List, we are working to create an small Web-Application to manage @libreoffice Mailforwarding-Adresses. Do we have an Style-Guide how such a Web-Application should look like? Unfortunately we haven't managed by now to create such a style guide. There are some design elements consistently used in the present website, wiki and derived pages, but they haven't been written down. I don't know if your application will use a header and top navigation, but these should look similar to the ones on the website. Most of the customization of the website is done by CSS, so the easiest way would be to use these CSS in your app (if possible).This would allow to adopt directly future changes to the styles. If this is not possible, you could get the colors and sizes used on the website from the CSS files. Perhaps the website team might be interested in assiting you. And for us it would be great if we could have a look at the design in an early state (or can contribute to it if you would tell us about the necessary fields, areas or features). Maybe we can use a logo like on the conference web page [1] (and the extension web page) [2]: [1] http://conference.libreoffice.org/ [2] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibO_Extensions_Templates_Logo.png Here is a first proposal: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibO-Mas.png -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-design] Style-Guide of LO Web-Applications
Am 28.06.2011 15:59, schrieb Robert Einsle: Hi Klaus-Jürgen, Am 27.06.2011 16:47, schrieb klaus-jürgen weghorn ol: [...] Maybe we can use a logo like on the conference web page [1] (and the extension web page) [2]: Who can create such Images? Because i think we need one for the Page. [1] http://conference.libreoffice.org/ [2] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibO_Extensions_Templates_Logo.png Here is a first proposal: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibO-Mas.png Mail Forwarding Service is NOT Mail Attachment Service *gg* this is for a different Project. Sorry for the mixing up. So let's change it: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibO-MFS.png -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-design] [VI] Documentation Fronts
Hi Drew, *, you made some nice fronts for the international documentation. I put them together in our gallery [1]. [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Gallery_DocumentationFronts Can you have a look upon it and extend it with some more proposals, if you have some? Can you give me/us the svg or an odt of your very pretty documentation fronts? I want to make proposals for the German documentation. -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] One banner and a template
Hi Charles-H, Am 06.07.2011 12:26, schrieb Charles-H. Schulz: Hello UX and Design team, I'm still in the conference preparation. :-) I would need -rather urgently- a banner to be put on our homepage, like we did with the fundraising one. Why don't we use the official banner like it is on the conference page [1]? Or only the right part of it? Otherwise: any definition of size or so? [1] http://conference.libreoffice.org/ I would need for the beginning of August a presentation template for our conference speakers. -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Screenshots for LibreOffice documentation
Hi David, *, Am 07.07.2011 06:59, schrieb David Nelson: Hi Jay, *, On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 4:26 AM, planas wrote: Unless someone is willing to spend the time and money to properly research the US legal issues, the safest course is avoid any chance of putting us into a possible legal crosshairs. I have neither. The problem is that no one has come forward who is US attorney and knowledgeable on software related issues to advise us. MS could consider LO as a direct competitor to MSO and thus would look for our legal blunders committed out of ignorance of US law. It may be more tedious for us to make sure our screenshots do not show anything that would imply a Windows OS but it is safer. I doubt any Linux distro would be upset if their desktop was identifiable in one of our screenshots. In fact a subtle plug could made by saying all the screenshots were made on various Linux distros. Many Windows users think we are command line using dinosaurs and would be surprised to see a vaguely familiar desktop. Well, if one *were* to accept that the risk might possibly exist in the US, I somehow *feel* that Microsoft would be much less likely to succeed in such hypothetical action in European courts. Also, certainly in Europe, Microsoft would be likely to attract loud criticism and incite hostile activism in doing so. But, even if one were to avoid Windows screenshots to the greatest extent possible (it being difficult to produce good Windows installation guides - for example - without taking screenshots under Windows), I still would not like to see the English docs team and website team taking its screenshots purely under Linux/Unix. What about the Macintosh platform? I'd certainly like to encourage more involvement from Mac users. Did someone know if it won't be the same problem with Mac as it is with MS? -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Packaging idea for LibreOffice software
Hi Nik, Am 09.07.2011 20:24, schrieb Nik: Hi all, I've been buried under research for the last few months and I've just returned to see that I'm buried under hundreds of Emails to get through. While I'll work through them in the next few days to catch up, there was something I wanted to show you guys before I left, but didn't... It is a packaging idea for people who distribute LibO on CD/DVD. Granted, it's not going to be everyone's idea of "practical" or "professional" but it does demonstrate a valuable link to our values and gives us a chance to really stand out. Why? Because the package is made entirely from paper. A4 paper and A3 paper, folded in on itself, to hide the edges and in a way that makes the packaging both a brochure, and a case. It fits two Discs neatly, can be printed on any printer (bleed is accounted for). It does not require any glueing or cutting (true to the values of Origami, from which it is inspired). If printed on 100% recycled paper (as intended) it would show our commitment to sustainability. More than traditional PVC cases at least. Above all else, it is actually just very nice to hold. Many people I gave it to said it reminded them of old 5.25inch floppy disks from "back in the day". Intrigued?... http://liberated.nikashsingh.org/html/papercase.html This might be more of an idea that sits well with us tree-hugging student-types, but I just thought it might be worth sharing. If you guys think it's worth exploring, I can upload the template so you can print one and fold it for yourself. It really has to be held to be appreciated I think. There is a big mistake on it: - no links to a svg or png to get it as soon as possible. ;-) And maybe a little: We need a version number because we have two versions of LibO on DVD (at least the Germans have two DVDs.) And it may be the best existing indication of how I imagine our "branding language" could look and feel. Simple, clean, honest, pure and vibrant. I think we can also take it as basis for cover design of our documentation. If you have some thoughts about that? Then we need a title on it. -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Fwd: [libreoffice-website] Mail Attachment Service
Hi Christoph, Am 10.07.2011 13:17, schrieb Christoph Noack: Hi all, just a friendly reminder to check out the Mail Attachment Service - it seems that nobody here found the time yet to check whether it runs stable and whether it fits our needs. The earlier the testing is finished, the earlier the service can be "switched on" for user and community lists. If you want to call me "Nemo" then I will agree. No activity at all. Besides the information in the previous mails (below), I've added a section to explain testing, expected behavior and feedback in the wiki: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website/LibreOffice_Mail_Attachment_Service#Testing I added my first design proposal and some issues. E.g. there is no remembering email when time is running out and the attachment will be deleted. See the fourth point of: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website/LibreOffice_Mail_Attachment_Service#Frequently_Asked_Questions Greetings from Nemo -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Packaging idea for LibreOffice software
Hi Nik, Am 11.07.2011 23:12, schrieb Nik: Hi Boss! =) I found something that I thought I could do quickly so I did that first; I've got a proposal for the Extensions logo, which I agree, shouldn't be a stand-alone logo, but a sub-brand of the LibO primary brand; I've uploaded a PNG to preview here; http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/cgi_img_auth.php/7/7e/ExtensionsLogo_110712NS.png If we do so we have two other logos to think about: Mail Forwarding Service http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibO-MFS.png Mail Attachment Service http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibO-Mas.png On this way: shouldn't we make some guidelines for such logos? and an SVG so you can tinker here; http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:ExtensionsLogo_Cleaned_110712NS.svg Doesn't work. Nominally 0 × 0 pixels It continues the consistency of the Conference logo by substituting characters for triangles. I think I prefer 1B because the fading-in effect suggest "extending/expanding" something more? Let me know what you think... -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Website buttons
Am 17.07.2011 03:12, schrieb Marc Paré: I think we discussed this at some point, but I can't seem to find the discussion thread. A user has asked if we had something similar to what was offered on the OOo site[1]. I think at the time there was a question as to whether the TDF was prepared to host any buttons on their servers for "href" use -- but I may be remembering it the wrong way. If we don't have any such page with buttons, could we have someone work out a few on a wiki page for user reference? IMO, I would prefer if these were offered up the same way as the OOo buttons. The sizes on the OOo page seem adequate. It would be nice if we even had some for the upcoming conference too! Here will be the place to work on: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Visual_Elements Especially on Electronical artwork - web buttons, a page I haven't had yet time to work on, so it doesn't exists up to now. Thanks for any information. Cheers, Marc [1]http://marketing.openoffice.org/art/galleries/marketing/web_buttons/ooo20buttons.html -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] New Conference and Challenge banners on libreoffice.org home page
Hi David, *, Am 17.07.2011 03:04, schrieb David Nelson: Hi Design guys, Charles Schulz recently requested a couple of links/banners on the libreoffice.org home page linking to the Challenge and Conference sites. After seeing that there were no proposals, I went ahead and produced a couple, which you might like to check out. I "only" see the banners on the web page: http://www.libreoffice.org/ Do you have some source on the wiki or so? So some one else can play it. Basically I hacked and re-invented some of that beautiful artwork produced from work by Paulo José and Nikash Singh for the original funding Challenge. A big thank you to you both, guys, for having made the .svg files available. I really loved your original work. A big thanks to you that you step in for this necessary work If anyone has something better to offer than what I've posted, or if you feel that any changes are needed, feel free to jump in and replace them, or to comment. My first thought,s when I saw it, were: Many black labels Can you try to inverse it to have a white background for comparison? -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Website buttons
Hi Drew, Am 19.07.2011 19:11, schrieb Drew Jensen: Number 2 - this time a 468x60 banner, with a link to the contribute page at TDF site: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Libreoffice468x60-donate.png The right text seems to be a little bit compressed. Maybe it is only my impression. -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Website buttons
Hi Drew, Am 19.07.2011 21:31, schrieb Drew Jensen: On Tue, 2011-07-19 at 21:10 +0200, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol wrote: Hi Drew, Am 19.07.2011 19:11, schrieb Drew Jensen: Number 2 - this time a 468x60 banner, with a link to the contribute page at TDF site: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Libreoffice468x60-donate.png The right text seems to be a little bit compressed. Maybe it is only my impression. OK - updated the file http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/cgi_img_auth.php/f/fc/Libreoffice468x60-donate.png Better? Too much? I think it is better. (I started both banners and switched them now like the eye doctors do: "Better or worse? Is this better or this?") -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Website buttons
Hi Drew, Am 19.07.2011 21:57, schrieb Drew Jensen: and added one more, same as above but with the green gradient backgound: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/cgi_img_auth.php/7/79/LibreOffice266x60_grn.png What do you think about inverting the font like it is described in the brandings: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#Guidelines_and_Best_Practices We, on the German list, have some people who have problems with red/green and one of them told me that he can't read the green on green like I do it on my cover proposal [1]. [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Front-33-es.png -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Logo for Extension and Template Repository Site
Hi Christoph, Am 02.08.2011 15:52, schrieb Christoph Noack: Idea 2: Why not defining a new extension icon based on Nik's design? Sometimes I've heard people complaining about the puzzle piece - maybe the triangles forming a "plug-in" would work okay (may be checked with Björn's icon test). Something like this [1]? [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibO-Ext02-1.png -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Download Button on Home Page
Hi Evan, *, Am Dienstag, 13. September 2011 22:51:04 schrieb Evan Janusziewicz: I do remember seeing an IRC web console on the wiki but I think it was just for one development section. I'm sure we can do something like that again, for the design mailing list. http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=libreoffice Maybe this helps too: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/ConfCalls#IRC_Channel Maybe you should ask Florian Effenberger for using it at a fixed time. The only time (as I know) where there is a fixed other programm is on every first tuesday of a month (for QA-bughunting): http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/IRCSessions -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] New web banners. Feedback?
Hi Aleksandar, Am 21.09.2011 23:52, schrieb Aleksandar Dev: As Christoph asked here : http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/msg03012.html I created new web banners. I posted them on my new (and only) wiki page: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:See As this is my first time to post new design here I would like to get feedback. So please feel free to write, any feedback is welcome. I like Spring Season 3 and Autumn Season 3 Some things to Autumn: Autumn Season 1 and 2: I won't put the Math icon on the top. Our top modules are Writer and Calc. So eventually put Writer, Calc and Impress on the line and Draw, Math and Base on the height. Autumn 3 (and 4): The text is hardly readable for me because of the motif in the back. I won't put the two grey icons math and normal side by side. Maybe test the following order: Base, Math, Draw, Normal, Writer, Calc, Impress or so. As you see through the reactions on this ml: great job. -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] LibreOffice Conference 2011, Personal Summary
Hi Andreas, Am 24.10.2011 19:19, schrieb Andreas Mantke: Hi Nik, Am Montag, 24. Oktober 2011, 16:41:06 schrieb Nik: Hi all, I've noticed mention in a couple of places here of the need for us to make it clearer how we operate. While I don't have a complete solution, there is an aspect that affects me (and I imagine, quite a few others) that I'd like to propose a simple solution to; Our "tasks/work items" page. It is too long, unkept and badly-sectioned to be useful as a tool for knowing what needs to be done. While I realise it isn't going to become an amazing productivity tool overnight, there are some small improvements that we could make to make it more useful. I've created a quick copy on my own wiki user-page to run past you before making any changes to the actual task-list. Please check this link; http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Nik#Proposed_rearrange_of_Design_Wo rk_items does that mean that nobody will work on the Design / UX of the Extensions-/Templates- Website anymore? I don't think that it is meant so by Nik. For me it is only a proposal with some examples. The lists must be filled in. IMHO the idea behind the proposal is to show clearlier where we stand and where to take the most power. -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] LibreOffice Conference 2011, Personal Summary
Hi Nik, *, Am 24.10.2011 16:41, schrieb Nik: Hi all, I've noticed mention in a couple of places here of the need for us to make it clearer how we operate. +1 While I don't have a complete solution, there is an aspect that affects me (and I imagine, quite a few others) that I'd like to propose a simple solution to; Our "tasks/work items" page. It is too long, unkept and badly-sectioned to be useful as a tool for knowing what needs to be done. While I realise it isn't going to become an amazing productivity tool overnight, there are some small improvements that we could make to make it more useful. I've created a quick copy on my own wiki user-page to run past you before making any changes to the actual task-list. Please check this link; http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Nik#Proposed_rearrange_of_Design_Work_items I would propose we; * Separate out items that are "ACTIVE", "ON-HOLD" and "COMPLETED" into three separate tables so that people interested in doing things only have to check the top table. * Keep the items in the tables short so that our members can more easily see what needs attention right now and what is going on that they would be interested in. Colour coding will help. More detailed information should just be linked to. * We need to have deadlines, whether we meet them or not (because we are all volunteers). Otherwise everything will end up as an incomplete task that lasts forever. * We need to have a client and a representative who speaks on their behalf. That will give us a point of reference rather than having endless internal communication. * We need to be organised and update this ourselves and move finished jobs out, or move jobs that are on-hold into that table. They shouldn't just stay in the active table. and most drastically; * *We should LIMIT the number of active tasks to just 3-4.* Anything else should not be added until something can be taken off and moved to the completed table. With fewer tasks, we can focus more, we can track them better, we can push them out faster, we can unify our fragmented efforts and we can be held accountable when we don't get things done, because it will show. What do you think? Good idea. Some first thoughts/questions about it: - Who will determine the priorities? I think mostly our lead(s). This should be noticed so we won't get some ugly discussion (as on the website/wiki). - Who will determine where to put an item (active - on-hold)? - As I understand your proposal, the items will be more different than the work-item-list [1]. Will you/we make a list to collect the different items before 1st of november? - The status "On hold" won't be necessary because then it will be in the "ON-HOLD" list - The status "Being finalised" won't be necessary because then it will be in the "completed archive" list or you must have a coloumn "Status" in this list, too. - What is the difference between "In proposal" an "In progress"? Maybe this should be described. - What will happen, if someone tells that he wants to work on a "ON-HOLD" item, but the list of active items is 'full' and the others don't think it is extremly neceassary to work on it? We won't prevent him to work on it. Example: Aleksander made some (great) design proposals "out of time". - Maybe this example can be a extra list: "GENERAL items" with no priority. - I'm not sure if we shouldn't colour the "On-HOLD" list, too Ok, let me stop here for now. [1]http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Work_Items -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Work Items Management
Hi Nik, Christoph, *, Am 25.10.2011 05:52, schrieb Nik: [...] *Klaus-jürgen mentioned;* [...] 3. As I understand your proposal, the items will be more different than the work-item-list [1]. Will you/we make a list to collect the different items before 1st of november? [...] *My suggestions regarding these very pertinent questions;* [...] 3. That is a good point I hadn't considered. Can someone help me establish the current status and contacts for each of the existing tasks. (just add it to the bottom of the current wiki task list page to avoid complicating this thread). I have started now such a list of collection [1]. Work on it, put things to the list, delete it. Mention also on our Whiteboards [2]. [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/work_items_collection [2] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Download page?
Am 08.11.2011 08:23, schrieb Christoph Noack: Hi Andrew! Thanks for the link ... indeed, the dowload page conceptl is available in the whiteboard section (wiki, sorry, no link now) http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Download_Page . It "just" needs implementation - afaik Ivan wanted to have a look at. Mabe anybody can help? Cheers, Christoph -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-design] Bernhard's departure
Hi all, something more off topic: What shall we do with former members of the design team who had done many value work for the design like Bernhard did. Should we put a special chapter on our design team list [1]? [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Team I commented out Bernhard on the design member list for now as he told us that he must leave the team for private reasons. But I think that he is worth to remember, but I don't know how. Any desicions? -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-design] [UX] Content for a Paper case for the LibOx
Hi all, maybe you have noticed that some times ago Nik showed a fine proposal for a LibOx-paper case [1] [2]. He also wrote: "I haven't put real content in my Design because I wanted to give Marketing and UX a chance to work out what they think would be best, that and localisation issues." Daniel Steyer and me are working on this subject. We made the instructions as odt and pdf in Englisch and German. Nik mentioned two passages (each max. 10 lines) with content: "Installation" (about 480 characters) and "Feature" (about 600 characters). And now we need this content. Maybe we can also put other information on it. Do you have any decisions or proposals? I made a wiki page for this: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Paper_case_for_LibOx#Need_for_content [1] http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/msg02686.html [2] http://liberated.nikashsingh.org/html/papercase.html -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] sticker design urgently needed
Hi Florian, Am 19.12.2011 13:39, schrieb Florian Effenberger: Hello, for a German magazine, we have a chance of adding LibreOffice stickers in their next issue, for 25.000-30.000 subscribers. For that, I would need the LibreOffice+TDF logo as printable PDF. The sticker itself will be 78x39 mm, the printable area has 74x35 mm. Since my graphical abilities are very limited, can someone create such a PDF for me soonish? Would be much appreciated. ;-) Last time when you need it? -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] sticker design urgently needed
Hi Florian, Am 19.12.2011 13:39, schrieb Florian Effenberger: Hello, for a German magazine, we have a chance of adding LibreOffice stickers in their next issue, for 25.000-30.000 subscribers. For that, I would need the LibreOffice+TDF logo as printable PDF. The sticker itself will be 78x39 mm, the printable area has 74x35 mm. It seems that no one can do something on it. So I started some simple proposals: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:K-j/Drafts#Sticker If you think it is the wrong theme at all, never mind. If you only need some internal changes you can send me (best in German) per PM. It is easier for me to understand ;-). -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: Website buttons, was: Re: [libreoffice-design] sticker design urgently needed
Hi Astron, Am 23.12.2011 14:46, schrieb Stefan Knorr (Astron): Hi Klaus-Jürgen, great job on number 3. (Also thanks for reminding me to work more on killoptions.) Are you maybe interested in doing the banner that Erich Christian asked for on the basis of number 3? I think the format should be something like this (not sure, though): http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Nik#Quick.27n.27dirty_banner I think it will be a more different work. There are some more banner proposals which I think are good to notice: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:See#Banners_:_Spread_the_word The logos are wrong for external websites but IMHO this is the way to go. These are on my Todo on number 4-5 ;-). Maybe I can start with the work at the beginning of the new year. (The thread is this one: [libreoffice-design] Fwd: Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice buttons for web site use) I realized it: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/msg03503.html The original thread is: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/msg08202.html If someone else will help, jump in. You are all on vacation and have nothing to do ;-). -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-design] [Banners and Buttons] External Banners and Buttons
Hi all, following the request from Astron [1] and from Erich [2] I have now started a Whiteboard for external banners [3] and started with proposals [4]. [1] http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/msg03546.html [2] http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/msg03503.html [3] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/External_web_banners [4] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/External_Banner_728x90 For now I want to open the discussion and - of course - the hunt for proposals ;-) -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] make proper design for T-shirt out of rough draft
Hi Cor, Am 16.01.2012 12:09, schrieb Cor Nouws: Hi *, There is an idea, rough draft, for a T-shirt print. Do you mean this draft: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:See#T-shirts:_LibreOffice_T-shirt_design or do you have a link? Anyone here that could help with making a proper design (suitable for the printer) out of that? Maybe you can tell the graphic's sizes. -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] [Banners and Buttons] External Banners and Buttons
Hi Astron, *, Am 06.01.2012 17:55, schrieb Stefan Knorr (Astron): sorry for the late reply. Hi Klaus-Jürgen, everyone reading, [schnipp] There are a few niggles, I have, mostly: * where you use the "flat"/"non-modern" logo, the word Office still looks "engraved," I think it shouldn't be Do you mean the inverted logo? * the green area around the arrow after "Download" should probably use the same colour as the background and it should also look sharper (?) I will have a look later. At some point we should decide for two or three official banners (a light one, a dark one, maybe something in between). And also, it might be handy if you did one of the smaller versions (150*150/250*250) earlier, I guess, these will be more needed (although I don't exactly know). When I find time in near future I will do some. I saw that you made the (R) in our logo optional in your SVG, I guess we shouldn't use that (our Branding page in the wiki at least doesn't mention anything about this). It'd be great though, if we had more insight here. Maybe Charles can help? I took the svg [1]. There is a Trademark. The pngs have none. So I made it optional. We should work on the Brandings for that. [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibreOffice_external_logo.svg -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] [info] design leads
Hi Michel, *, Am 25.01.2012 15:38, schrieb Michel RENON: Hi Christoph, Le 23/01/12 22:07, Christoph Noack a écrit : [...] Now, I see two "N.N." who need to be filled in the mid-term ... so what do you think? How to go on? Anybody there who might accept to guide the direction of this team? What actions/responsabilities are expected from the leader ? What is expected to apply ? I think it is a job like a facility manager/consierge or - if this sounds a little bit better - a mentor. The lead should have a look on the different work that come up on one of the two parts of the design team (vi (visual identity) and ux (user experience)), sometimes coordinate it a bit, give some advices. Would it be possible to have 2 people ? We have two parts so we need at least 2 people. Il would allow them to share the pressure, the decisions, the knowledge, and also one can take some rest without disturbing the project. Our design leads (Bernhard and Christoph) were not like chairmans. They don't make the decisions, they "only" start the votings and discussions if no one else do this. Of course they have had a look at our branding and other advices. They are one of the go-to persons if someone out of the design team has a question. Sometimes they turn the team's attention to a work, which we get out of sight, by asking one/two per PM or the whole team by ml. Currently, I hope to be much more helpful by working on the pile of issues assigned to me, helping on the ux-advise list ... and looking at some of the open discussions of the past weeks. For example, it would be nice to know how to continue with smaller and general (seriously developed) UI improvements people ask for regularly. This is IMHO the main part a ux design leader has to do. Some other part is what Astron made in the last time. Just my 2 Eurocent. -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Writer background image - contest! :-)
Hi Kendy, Am 19.04.2012 12:06, schrieb Jan Holesovsky: How does that sound? Can we together do something sexy for 3.6? Timeplan? -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Writer background image - contest! :-)
Hi Andrew, Am 20.04.2012 04:46, schrieb Andrew Pullins: I was wanting to do this not too long ago. I saw this a while back and really liked it [1]. but here is my version [2] [1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/DocumentBackground [2] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Motif.png IMHO your proposal seems a little bit restless and will divert from the text/work. -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Design-themed Hackfest
Hi Maggie, Am 20.04.2012 23:59, schrieb King Duck: Stefan, Where will this Hackfest be and when? was already written in the mail ;-): [...] On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 4:06 AM, Stefan Knorr (Astron)< heinzless...@googlemail.com> wrote: [3] The prospective location would be South Tyrol (Italy), I can't say anything about the date yet. [...] [3] It would most likely happen on a weekend, it will probably be possible to get reimbursed for travel costs. -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] [RFC] tweaked b/w TDF logo for letterheads, stamps etc.
Hi Astron, Thorsten, *, Am 21.04.2012 13:24, schrieb Stefan Knorr (Astron): Hello Thorsten, mostly, I thought it looked good. I've edited it a tiny bit, to make the logo as large as the text and also trying to enforce the 1/2 width of a document symbol distance everywhere. I've added a variant (the bottom one) that should work without the Vegur font being installed (i.e. letters as paths)... that's it. Accidentally, I also replaced your file in the wiki... sorry. I took Astron's (and Thorsten's) proposal and align it to get a rectangle (like a stamp is). Then I made a half space between 10 and 117 to make it in typography. Here is my proposal: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:K-j/Drafts#Stamp -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] [RFC] tweaked b/w TDF logo for letterheads, stamps etc.
Hi Thorsten, Am 23.04.2012 11:45, schrieb Thorsten Behrens: klaus-jürgen weghorn ol wrote: Am 21.04.2012 13:24, schrieb Stefan Knorr (Astron): Hello Thorsten, mostly, I thought it looked good. I've edited it a tiny bit, to make the logo as large as the text and also trying to enforce the 1/2 width of a document symbol distance everywhere. I've added a variant (the bottom one) that should work without the Vegur font being installed (i.e. letters as paths)... that's it. Accidentally, I also replaced your file in the wiki... sorry. I took Astron's (and Thorsten's) proposal and align it to get a rectangle (like a stamp is). Then I made a half space between 10 and 117 to make it in typography. Thanks guys, looks great You made the most of the work. - I'd go with k-j's version then, but w/o the half space I guess. No problem. I only followed the typographic for thousands seperator: e.g. http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leerzeichen#Breite_des_Leerzeichens http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thin_space -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Logo for the LibreOffice Conference 2012 in Berlin
Hi all, Am 29.04.2012 13:47, schrieb Andreas Mantke: Hi all, the LibreOffice conference will be held this autumn in Berlin. We need a logo for this conference, that could be used on the website and other marketing material. The proposals for our first LibreOffice conference in Paris could be found here: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_conference_logo Maybe it is a bit more difficult to create a logo for Berlin because there is no Eiffel Tower ;-) There is a page for all of it: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/Berlin2012_Conference And my draft (2012-03-02): http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibO_Conference_Logo_2012Berlin_color.png -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Logo for the LibreOffice Conference 2012 in Berlin
Am 29.04.2012 18:15, schrieb klaus-jürgen weghorn ol: Hi all, Am 29.04.2012 13:47, schrieb Andreas Mantke: Hi all, the LibreOffice conference will be held this autumn in Berlin. We need a logo for this conference, that could be used on the website and other marketing material. The proposals for our first LibreOffice conference in Paris could be found here: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_conference_logo Maybe it is a bit more difficult to create a logo for Berlin because there is no Eiffel Tower ;-) There is a page for all of it: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/Berlin2012_Conference And my draft (2012-03-02): http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibO_Conference_Logo_2012Berlin_color.png If someone else want to work with my proposal here is the svg: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:K-j/Drafts#Logo The text is made with TeXGyreHeros as it was in ParisLogo -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Design principles
Hi Mirek, Am 06.05.2012 17:29, schrieb Mirek M.: I thought it was about time to draft some design principles, so I put up a draft on my user page: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Mirek2#Design_Principles Tell me what you think. :) Your focus is rather on UI. But this is only one part of our design team. What about VI (Visual Identity, Graphical Design)? -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Redesigning the Design page
Hi all, Am 26.04.2012 13:55, schrieb Mirek M.: [...] I believe it's time to redesign it. [...] [1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design Only a short hint: The "Our current Endeavors" are all UI. There is no VI. Ok, VI isn't the most you all work on (even not your hobbyhorse ;-) ) but one point should be on the first page e.g. Marc's mentioned web banners/buttons. -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] [Buttons] Creating/Improving LibreOffice web banners/buttons for external website use
Hi Marc, Am 06.05.2012 10:09, schrieb Marc Paré: Would any members of the design team be interested in running up some buttons that would be used for external website use? It looks like we could offer these on the LibreOffice website as well as host the buttons so that website owners would only have to add the appropriate script on their site. I'm interested and I work(ed) on this subject for some time [1]. NN (not really sure, but I think this is Nick) created a whiteboard on N.N. = Nomen nescio or Nomen nominandum [1] There is no head of this subject. [1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomen_nescio) "External Banners" which holds valid information of parameters to constructing "web banners/buttons. For organizational purposes, this wiki page could be adjusted to include buttons: * http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/External_web_banners The first step is: Which size(s) are needed first? Here are some proposals for 728x90: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/External_Banner_728x90 But as I heard from different sides there is a urgent necessity for some smaller banners and buttons. -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Logo for the LibreOffice Conference 2012 in Berlin
Hi Stefan, Am 07.05.2012 18:33, schrieb Stefan Knorr (Astron): Hi Klaus-Jürgen, all, And my draft (2012-03-02): http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibO_Conference_Logo_2012Berlin_color.png Wonderful! I've had ~1 big complaint about it, namely that the Victory Column is higher than the 1px grey separator line (which seems like it should be the thing in the logo). Thanks for checking. That isn't a big problem. I have changed it and now it is on the same altitude. But there was a more awful mistake in it I changed for now. Thus, I've used your and Nik's great work as a basis... here is my proposal: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Liboconflogo2012-proposal-astron.png Source file: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Liboconflogo2012-proposal-astron.svg Superb. If we will not have this as logo we should put the theme on wallpapers. When I catch some time I will make a wiki page to show the proposals on one place. PS: I noticed that [for the victory column] you overlaid some green elements with white circles to make it look like a quarter-circle was cut off a rectangle. The better way to go about this, is to to convert both the circle and the rectangle to paths (Path> Object to Path) and then use the function Path> Difference to cut off the quarter-circle from the rectangle. Thanks for your hint. Changed it and found by the way the awful mistake. -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [Buttons] Creating/Improving LibreOffice web banners/buttons for external website use
Am 09.05.2012 19:37, schrieb Marc Paré: Hi Klaus Le 2012-05-06 12:50, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol a écrit : [...] Here are some proposals for 728x90: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/External_Banner_728x90 [...] The marketing team would also appreciate having the svg version also as the different language groups will want to modify with native text for their use. At the end of the tables there is the link to the svgs. E.g.: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/External_Banner_728x90#motif_1 -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [Buttons] Creating/Improving LibreOffice web banners/buttons for external website use
Hi Marc, Am 06.05.2012 20:40, schrieb Marc Paré: Hi Klaus (am I using the right name? I always wonder when I reply to one of your messages.) Oh, my first name is fully Klaus-Jürgen, but there is no problem when you call me "Klaus" (because the "ü" won't be on most of the keyboards). You can also call me "k-j" which is my nickname I got from a classmate when DALLAS (JR Greetings) and Dynasty were all the rage. -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Logo for the LibreOffice Conference 2012 in Berlin
Hi Marc, Am 29.05.2012 03:49, schrieb Marc Paré: I had some time today and created a wiki page for the upcoming LibreOffice Berlin Conference October 17-19 2012 (I just copied the wiki page structure that we had with the Paris Conference of last year)[1]. There are some existing and linked pages. See the starting page [5]. This page is e.g. linked from [6]. We should put the work together. [5] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/Berlin2012_Conference [6] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events#All The logo you show isn't yet the "official" logo. We are in process of finding a logo as you can see it in this thread. On that page there are some items that will need to be looked at: * conference presentation template (see the Paris Conference template for inspiration[2]) * full set of logo variants (see the Berlin conference page for information[1] * I could not find a development page of the Berlin Conference logo, if there is one, it should be linked on this page/ .png and .svg version of the logo have been linked on this page * will need some conference web buttons (will know more of this closer to the time of the conference). Look at the Paris web buttons page for inspiration[3] * will need an Official LibreOffice Website Conference Banner "Register now!". Look at the Paris conference banner for inspiration[4] [1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/SpecialEvents/LibreOffice_Conference_2012_Berlin#LibreOffice_Conference_2012_Berlin [2] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/SpecialEvents/LibreOffice_Conference_2011_Paris [3] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Gallery_Buttons/Conference [4] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibOWebsiteBanners_Conference_English.png This week I won't have time to work on this thread. So feel free to work on it. -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] easy proposals now in my page
Hi Michel, *, Am 29.05.2012 18:41, schrieb Michel RENON: Hi, To make it easier to read, I uploaded my 2 recents proposals in my wiki page : https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Michelr - enhancement for bullets and numbering icons Is it necessary to have the comment "default" (because this is a box of choice)? It will get smarter when we have no comment. - new insert menu in Writer 1 Why are there two points: "Page Break" and "Manual Break..."? And why are they not side by side? Finding the second is much more difficult when you see the first. (To insert a page break quickly you use . So this part won't be necessary for the profis.) 2 I would expect the "Footnote" in the section Footer, Indexes etc. 3 Is "Picture from Scan..." a less or a rarely used feature? I think that most people scan the picture with a graphic program. At least because there is no easy handle with this in Writer (e.g. turning 90°) 4 What to you expect with "Picture/movie/sound from Gallery..."? Is this item necessary? Please reply with any comments, questions, or concerns. Done -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] [Patch] Make new About dialogue a little nicer
Hi Astron, Am 04.06.2012 16:32, schrieb Stefan Knorr (Astron): Hi, Since I noticed, the beta is supposed to be tagged today or tomorrow already and we in the Design team had talked about our new About thing a little... and I also don't seem to have anything to do... I made this patch for About. It does the following: * it removes the bevel from the SVG background * it removes the hardcoded button colour for the Website button (and also changes it's text, so it looks less like a link) * it unhides the Close button * it moves the button row below the copyright text Requisite screenshots: Before: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Libreoffice-new-about-dialog.png After: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Modified-new-about-dialog.png I would be grateful if someone could take a look at this and commit it or well, not. It looks cool. Have you tried to do it with a darker green background and white writing and rectangles like these business cards [1] and some other artworks? [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:See#Business_cards:_Paris_2011_Conference -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Bug Submission Assistant page -- icon images?
Hi Marc, Am 27.06.2012 12:01, schrieb Marc Paré: There are 6 icons on the "Bug Submission Assistant" page[1] that have no images associated to them. It makes the page look unfinished. Are there any images that we could use for these? If not, could the design team create images for the missing icons (even if these are temporary)? Component 1: Localisation Component 2: Contrib Component 3: Linguistic Component 4: BASIC Component 5: UI Component 6: LibreOffice (It is the right icon) -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Looking for a new splash screen
Hi Stefan, *, Am 07.06.2012 11:42, schrieb Stefan Knorr (Astron): Hi everyone, For the 3.6 release, we'd like to have a new splash screen, thus, if you're feeling creative, please submit designs in here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Playground/Splash_screen Have I lost the voting (and the discussion) or has there never been a voting here on the ml? -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Looking for a new splash screen
Hi all, Am 11.07.2012 15:13, schrieb Stefan Knorr: Hi Klaus-Jürgen, seems like no one wanted to vote here on the list. So, you didn't really miss anything. It seems that we found the "problem": Stefan sent an email to this list but it never reached the list. So here for the protocol (and as test) > "Hi all, > > Today, I've posted a poll on the issue of which splash screen to pick > on > Google+. Naturally, not everyone is registered there and we don't want > to exclude anyone from voting. > > Soo, to vote, please have a look at > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Playground/Splash_screen > and then indicate your opinion as to which _one_ is your favourite in > a > reply. > > Thanks, > Astron. > > > PS: We'll discuss the issue of which one to take in the Chat tomorrow > as always you're invited to be there and help make the final decision. > PPS: Our Google+ page is here: > https://plus.google.com/u/0/102673546895803839652/posts"; -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Successes in the past year
Hi Björn, *, Am 16.07.2012 23:50, schrieb Björn Balazs: [...] I have prepared a section in the wiki for documentation: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design -> What we have done so far If you have any better place to put this, please take action. It is a really good thing to present the stuff we have done so people can get a feeling for our work. I think we should put it in the Gallery [1]. [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Visual_Elements -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Looking for a new splash screen
Hi everyone, Am 07.06.2012 11:42, schrieb Stefan Knorr (Astron): Hi everyone, For the 3.6 release, we'd like to have a new splash screen, thus, if you're feeling creative, please submit designs in here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Playground/Splash_screen There are a few constraints: * add your entry until June 29, 2012, 0:00 GMT * please upload both your SVG source image and your exported PNG image * when uploading to the wiki, please choose the license combination "CC-BY-SA/LGPL 3+/MPL 1.1," so we can immediately use the splash screen * use the official LibreOffice branding and colours [1] * if you make use of the full logo (document symbol + LibreOffice lettering), please make a submission with the official logo and another with the community logo [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding [2] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Motif [3] The new About dialogue in 3.6 uses a flat logo SVG, because LibreOffice's SVG code can't yet display the modern SVG logo right. It is not an option right now to use a PNG there in its stead. We have a big, big mistake with our Splash screen [4]: It don't follow our own branding [1] and guidelines because the "LibreOffice" without TDF isn't in one line with the logo. Andrea's will do [5]. It is even not the same logo as it is in the Start Center and the About dialog [6]. I don't think that we should do so (even kick off our own branding). So I vote for changing it for the final release of 3.6.0 and using the same logo every time a LibO-logo is there. [4] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibreOffice_3.6.0.1_Splash_screen.png [5] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Playground/Splash_screen [6] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/3.6#GUI I made a bug report: https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=52253 -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: New icons in Tango
Hi ape, Am 26.07.2012 11:27, schrieb ape: I was very disappointed when I saw in the "dev-LibO-3.6.1" this: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n3997824/capture_26-07-2012.png I guess I'm just losing my time. I had to correct Tango and other themes only to myself and my friends, because The Design Team don't needs to this work. I have icons (not text) on 3.6.0.2 (RC2) on WIN864bit, Tango theme. So have a try with this and then tell us if it isn't correct. But in general: I don't think that it is the right way to bash the design team. We are all volunteers here and spend our free time for this product to get better. We are working on many stuff and many stuff is getting in the 3.6. And sometimes things will happen a little bit later. But if they are worth to happen they will happen. So work with us but don't bash. -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: New icons in Tango
Hi ape, Am 29.07.2012 21:27, schrieb ape: Switch to large icons and you'll see that nothing has changed. (LibO-3.6.0.4; any operating system) Maybe I misunderstood the problem but see the two icons on the right side: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/1/15/Symbol.PNG -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Global options
Hi Mirek, *, Am 26.07.2012 08:11, schrieb Mirek M.: Hi everyone, As a first step toward redesigning the Options dialog, it's necessary to sort out the options that LibreOffice currently provides. As a start, I provided https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Analyses/Global_Options -- notably, it's still missing Language options. The whiteboard for designing the Global Options dialog would come after all options are sorted out. Options specific to individual modules should be handled separately, though we could always merge all the options into one Options dialog if we feel that's desired. Should we put all informations about the options in the following whiteboard and link to seperate pages as it is done for "killing options"? https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/OptionsRework For killing options: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Whiteboards/KillOptions -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] New gallery art
Hi Alexander, Am 08.08.2012 17:17, schrieb Alexander Wilms: Hi everyone, Björn just opened this bug about the very outdated looking gallery art: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53248 I assume we could be done with fixing this rather quickly and I think we should create artwork that either adheres to the tango guidelines or fits to our new design direction i.e. it'd use flat colors. Debate on principles: Is it necessary to deliver any gallery? Reason: At the same time when we release new galleries they are nearly outdated. Especially such things like rulers, web buttons, sounds. So we should put off all delivered galleries. Or even all except one little as example to describe the function of the gallery. -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] New gallery art
Hi all, Am 08.08.2012 21:12, schrieb Alexander Wilms: @ Mirek: Should we ask on G+ and maybe via the LibreOffice facebook page how many would actually use image bullets if they were appealing? I don't think that we will get a representative "voting" on G+ and Facebook. Even if you want to ask the companies. Maybe we should ask on discuss-ml too. But when we ask it will get as I said a debate of principles about the Gallery for itself. And I don't know if the Design team should do this. So maybe first ask the ux-ml? -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Font wishlist
Hi Stefan, Am 14.08.2012 11:45, schrieb Stefan Knorr: as you probably know, LibreOffice bundles a number of fonts with itself. On last week's ESC call, there were discussions of including more... So, here's an attempt to start a font wishlist to see what we'd like to include in the future. Feel free to add to: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Wishlists/Fonts Of course, there are no guarantees that any of these fonts will make it into the product, but hopefully some will. The LibO-Design team often uses two fonts: VEGUR (Branding!) and TeXGyreHeros Should we take them, too? -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Font wishlist
Hi Stefan, *, Am 14.08.2012 11:45, schrieb Stefan Knorr: Of course, there are no guarantees that any of these fonts will make it into the product, but hopefully some will. Some questions: Who decides about this fonts? Timeplan? Any criteria to put one in or not? Where to put the pros and cons of a font? -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] LibreOffice 2012 conference template needed - any takers?
Hi Thorsten, all, Am 18.09.2012 16:25, schrieb Thorsten Behrens: Hi design team, I just realize that http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/Berlin2012_Conference has a bit of a white spot wrt. conference Impress template - http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/ConferenceTemplates should have something to start off of, I wonder if one of you had the free cycles to draft something here quickly? I changed the page ConferenceTemplates to collect the proposals for 2012 and added a first proposal for discussion. I'm not really a Impress user so tell me if there is something wrong. Many thanks, and sorry for not noticing earlier, Was on my ToDo but "Lackoftime" ;-). -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] LibreOffice 2012 conference template needed - any takers?
Hi, Am 19.09.2012 08:36, schrieb Volker Merschmann: Hi, 2012/9/19 klaus-jürgen weghorn ol : Am 18.09.2012 16:25, schrieb Thorsten Behrens: I changed the page ConferenceTemplates to collect the proposals for 2012 and added a first proposal for discussion. I'm not really a Impress user so tell me if there is something wrong. Generally nice, but I would like to see a white background for better readability. Second proposal: "Paris Template", only changing the logo, location and time stamp -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Icon test about to start
Am 19.09.2012 21:13, schrieb Björn Balazs: Hi all, long announced and finally (almost) ready... We (Heiko and I - anyone else is invited) will start the first test of the standard icons we use in LO. We have decided to test the first row of icons in a normal (as we hope) installation of writer. You can find the preview of the study here: http://www.userweave.net/survey/a2d515d3e4054685929b9d05e0b3fa7f Of course data and everything will be open - you just have to register for free on www.userweave.net and look out for the LibreOffice project on there. There is no need to register. What we need now from you: Any kind of feedback for the english version. I didn't find a symbol for Gallery in term 22. What will happen with these informations? Maybe you should put in an icon (or a button): "no idea" and maybe put in some icons which are not available in LibO for testing. Once the english version is fixed, we need translations into as many languages as possible - we can only provide German next to English... -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Want to contribute
Hi Andreas, welcome to the design-ml. Nice to see you here. Am 03.10.2012 16:06, schrieb Andreas Hencke: Send some mails to me. I'll help if I can. Maybe you tell us something about you. What are your design skills, expectations etc.? We don't want to bore you with things you even know. Have a short look at: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design We make UX (User experience) and VI (Graphical design (Visual Identity). What is your favourite? Do you want to make web banners for LibO? Do you want to make icons? Or presentation material? Visual things? After that we can give you some more infos. -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: ideas for campaigns
Am 05.11.2012 11:44, schrieb Charles-H. Schulz: Thanks for passing this around. So essentially this is a call to design web buttons and banners for our future and present(?) donation campaigns. Interested people please upload your designs on our wiki in the design section. As Marc mentioned the discussions, here are some wiki links: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/External_web_banners Rather outdated: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Visual_Elements Always an inspiration: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Nik And: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:See#Banners_:_Spread_the_word Some of mine (not as good as from the profs above): http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:K-j/Drafts/Design#Several_Banners http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:K-j/Drafts -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-design] Where does the design-team go?
Hi all, seems to be a very aggressive title? My personal impressions are that the design team is loosing the sight for graphical elements, and only works on user experience. Let me tell what happened the last weeks: 1. Taking *all* VI from whiteboard list to playground list. 2. Talking about, that it isn't the design team's job for working on T-Shirts or other marketing material 3. Taking off all Playground lists. Where is the discussion to do this? So there is no way to find any work for visual identity. 4. There were no dialogs about buttons, banners, conference material etc. I know that some of you aren't work on VI but there is a huge call for banners, web buttons etc. Especially for 4.0. And that isn't the marketing team's job. It seems that I'm the only one working for this and this isn't good because I haven't the skills to do such things for 4.0. When we do a review we should do a view too: I have a simple problem with the whole design working process. The focus of all who worked here for the last year was only on [UX]. We have no [VI] in work. We don't give the marketing what they urgently need [2]. We as Design team didn't work on any stuff for the next Conference. Look and compare the Whiteboards and the Playgrounds to get a feeling about it. Marketing material is in Playground, no working point in Whiteboard. Maybe my words are a bit hard. I thought about all of it the last weeks. Then two questions appear to me and I gave them a name: 1 Nik as a great designer for the stuff here who was away for a longer time comes along and asks this question: Nik's question: "What stuff can I do for you now to get a really good movement in your design? Only one because I have no time to work on many things." What would we say? 2 Bernhard had the experience to get the stuff in a well-structured order, so the people can find and work with it easily. Bernhard's question: "Where can I find the material to work on next?" Let's have a look: "Wiki - Design - ? Aaah Whiteboard, but there is only UX and no graphical design. So they need no graphical design?" Let's do our next work with these two questions. The marketing team starts a discussion about their strategy [3] and of course there are some critics even the design team is concerned [4]. Do we get them? Do we work on it? If we don't do this the others made it for themselves without us. And we should do this too: Defining a strategy for design [VI] and [UX]. -- maybe an own discussion but part of strategy I don't think that the voting about the new design in 3.6 happened in a really good way no matter what happened with the announcement. We should not vote by Google+ or even by IRC. Especially not for the design which concerns to our presentation. Google+ can show us some direction, and IRC is not my/our tool for community and communication (I e.g. am not able to join these IRCs). There was no official discussion about the proposals here on the ml (or I missed it). And lack of time isn't an excuse for it. We need a time plan for such work. So I hope we can do it for 4 in a better way. Maybe we need a release plan. -- [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Visual_Elements [2] http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Buttons-Creating-Improving-LibreOffice-web-banners-buttons-for-external-website-use-td3965958.html [3] http://go.mail-archive.com/RKmdltCSiTUjAQdRekKqjvz1eXc= [4] http://go.mail-archive.com/edAtdbnJUBihTPviowGLB3sxoKc= Ok, that was many stuff for you, so I close here and I'm going back to work. -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Where does the design-team go?
Hi Mirek, design teamers, all, sorry for the late reply. But now I find some time to answer (a very long e-mail). I don't need an answer to this e-mail for the next, hard working time. But let us work on this stuff - let me say - in March/April 2013 after releasing 4.0.0. Am 12.11.2012 10:40, schrieb Mirek M.: Hi Klaus, On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 8:58 AM, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol mailto:o...@sophia-louise.de>> wrote: Hi all, seems to be a very aggressive title? My personal impressions are that the design team is loosing the sight for graphical elements, and only works on user experience. Let me tell what happened the last weeks: 1. Taking *all* VI from whiteboard list to playground list. Playgrounds were an experiment that didn't pan out. The idea was to have continuous iteration on the visual design of things, as, unlike interaction design, visual design proposals are easy and quick to implement. 2. Talking about, that it isn't the design team's job for working on T-Shirts or other marketing material We are doing the FOSDEM T-shirts (Astron should put up a whiteboard soon), but were wondering whether it's not a better fit for the marketing team. 3. Taking off all Playground lists. Where is the discussion to do this? So there is no way to find any work for visual identity. It's ok to do so, but how to find the stuff? The discussion is at http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Meetings/2012-11-10. It boils down to none of the playgrounds being maintained or active, and if people want to collaborate, we don't want them to waste time on projects that aren't very relevant anymore. We'll do whiteboards instead of playgrounds now. 4. There were no dialogs about buttons, banners, conference material etc. I know that some of you aren't work on VI but there is a huge call for banners, web buttons etc. Especially for 4.0. And that isn't the marketing team's job. It seems that I'm the only one working for this and this isn't good because I haven't the skills to do such things for 4.0. There should be a 4.0 rebranding whiteboard up soon. http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/4.0_Branding When we do a review we should do a view too: I have a simple problem with the whole design working process. The focus of all who worked here for the last year was only on [UX]. We have no [VI] in work. We don't give the marketing what they urgently need [2]. We as Design team didn't work on any stuff for the next Conference. I wouldn't say we've done no VI work, because we've done icons, templates, the 3.6 rebranding, and a new Windows look. It's true that many of the volunteers (me included) are more focused on the UX work, but you can't blame them for working on what they prefer. Oh, I don't want to blame anyone for working on what he prefers. I only want to focusing that - as it is my impression - the VI get lost in our design team. A while ago, I sent out an e-mail about project caretakers. Would you like to create a few VI whiteboards and become a caretaker? I'm taking care of some points, especially the web buttons, documentation design. But I'm not able to become a caretaker of this. Which whiteboards so you think we need? - Marketing material -- Web banners [1] -- Logos/Banners for events -- Giveaways, T-Shirt -- Documentation [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/External_web_banners Look and compare the Whiteboards and the Playgrounds to get a feeling about it. Marketing material is in Playground, no working point in Whiteboard. (See reasoning for playgrounds above.) Maybe my words are a bit hard. I thought about all of it the last weeks. Then two questions appear to me and I gave them a name: 1 Nik as a great designer for the stuff here who was away for a longer time comes along and asks this question: Nik's question: "What stuff can I do for you now to get a really good movement in your design? Only one because I have no time to work on many things." What would we say? 2 Bernhard had the experience to get the stuff in a well-structured order, so the people can find and work with it easily. Bernhard's question: "Where can I find the material to work on next?" Let's have a look: "Wiki - Design - ? Aaah Whiteboard, but there is only UX and no graphical design. So they need no graphical design?" Let's do our next work with these two questions. The marketing team starts a discussion about their strategy [3] and of course there are some critics even the design team is concerned [4]. Do we get them? Do we work on it? If we don't do this the others made it for themselves with
Re: [libreoffice-design] LibreOffice cover photo - Google+
Am 07.12.2012 13:23, schrieb Florian Monfort: Hi everyone! Could we have a LibreOffice cover photo for our official page on Google+ ? Right now we're using the default theme which is not so classy... If you are interested in an other cover photo: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:K-j/Drafts/Concept-GIn#Google.2B_cover_photo -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: A new old branding?
Hi Alex, Am 13.01.2013 21:34, schrieb Alexander Wilms: I changed the logo and added the progress bar: http://s1.directupload.net/images/130113/62ufarwr.png I'm trying to adapt this design for the start center Ähhh, are we "documentfoundation.org"? -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] 4.0 Branding
Hi Mirek, all, Am 01.01.2013 01:00, schrieb Mirek M.: Hi everyone, The 4.0 release is drawing closer and we need branding proposals. If you have a proposal, please upload it to https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/4.0_Branding before January 12th. January 12th is over. We should close it or tell a new date. But nevertheless we need a decision quite soon. There is to do some more marketing material [e.g. 1]. And this material should follow the new branding. [1] http://go.mail-archive.com/RHuxB6-c0idEVKmcjcB-cOCpBW8= -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: A new old branding?
Hi Mirek, all, Am 16.01.2013 12:45, schrieb Mirek M.: On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 9:18 PM, SteveBell wrote: Great news. So now that we have a deadline for contributions, what will the decision making process look like? We'll make the decision on our weekly IRC chat (hence the firm deadline) after careful deliberation. I don't think that this is a good decision in spirit of community. Even not about a new branding of our programme. I'm e.g. not able to follow the IRC chat so you expel me (and maybe some more) from this decision. A decision by voting of community, by BoD (our officials) or by the members of TDF will be ok. -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] IRC chat
Hi Mirek, Am 16.01.2013 23:09, schrieb Mirek M.: Hi everyone, Like every week, we will hold an IRC meeting on Saturday at 16:00 UTC. Everyone's welcome, details at wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Meetings. To be discussed: 4.0 branding Icon set Feel free to add topics (even if you won't attend). Maybe not for this IRC because 4.0 branding will be filling the time of this IRC but for one of the next. - Idea/Request from marketing [1] about a "VI design team attached to the marketing team" [1] http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/msg06997.html -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: Fwd: [libreoffice-design] Re: A new old branding?
Hi Mirek, all, Am 16.01.2013 20:26, schrieb Mirek M.: On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 6:30 PM, Pedro wrote: mirek2 wrote This time, it seems that, again, mostly splashes have been proposed, so it's likely that additional effort required. That means that, ultimately, the decision should rest with the people who can be counted on to do that work on time and in shippable quality. Those tend to be the regular IRC chat attendees, though if they don't attend, they'll be e-mailed. They'll also be responsible for getting a license statement and having the new branding included in LibreOffice. It should have been specified in the Summary that a full set was required :) It's not required, but it is a factor in our decisions. That's why it's listed under "Scope". Should we put a persona to "scope" too? Because it is a new feature for 4.0 and we should show the new branding with a persona. -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] 4.0 Branding and Out of Scope Designs
Hi all, Am 19.01.2013 23:00, schrieb Mirek M.: Next week is the deadline for submitting 4.0 branding proposals. We'll be discussing the proposals and making a decision at our next IRC chat [1] (feel free to tune in) and if you want to express satisfaction/dissatisfaction with any of them before the decision, write us a message on our mailing list, as outlined on our wiki [2]. (If you have trouble with that, drop us a note in the comments and we'll help.) Maybe we should change the wiki page to show which proposals are "In scope", can get "In scope" with a minimum of work, are completely "Out of scope". So we won't discuss about "Out scope". Unfortunately, many of the proposals submitted are out of scope, which eliminates them from the running. If you're one of the designers, here are the problems so you can fix them: [...] - k-j: logo not featured correctly [3], features an additional "Get involved" button Done a change. It seems to be interesting that none of the proposals uses the motif in any way [3]. [3] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Motif#Scatter_in-context_update [...] -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
