Re: File roller extracting with double click, bug/feature ?
This wasn't mentioned yet. But this feature is optional. You can configure this in nautilus settings. or via gsettings set org.gnome.nautilus.preferences automatic-decompression false 2016-11-13 0:14 GMT+01:00 Bastien Nocera : > On Sat, 2016-11-12 at 16:58 -0500, Baptiste Saleil wrote: >> Thanks for the link to the blog post (thus the explanation to disable >> the feature). >> >> So you mentioned that "Extract here" should not be available. > > The "Extract here" from file-roller, further down the menu, shouldn't > be there. The "Extract here" from nautilus at the top of the menu > should be there. > >> Actually it is available only if I enable the "Extract when opening" >> option in nautilus and is not available when I uncheck it. >> Is it not supposed to be the opposite ? > > No, that's about correct. > >> You said that it could be caused by a version mismatch, but my system >> reports that version 3.22.1 of nautilus and 3.22.2 of file-roller are >> installed. Should I report this as a bug ? > > Doesn't seem like a bug to me. > ___ > desktop-devel-list mailing list > desktop-devel-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth? ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: File roller extracting with double click, bug/feature ?
On Sat, 2016-11-12 at 16:58 -0500, Baptiste Saleil wrote: > Thanks for the link to the blog post (thus the explanation to disable > the feature). > > So you mentioned that "Extract here" should not be available. The "Extract here" from file-roller, further down the menu, shouldn't be there. The "Extract here" from nautilus at the top of the menu should be there. > Actually it is available only if I enable the "Extract when opening" > option in nautilus and is not available when I uncheck it. > Is it not supposed to be the opposite ? No, that's about correct. > You said that it could be caused by a version mismatch, but my system > reports that version 3.22.1 of nautilus and 3.22.2 of file-roller are > installed. Should I report this as a bug ? Doesn't seem like a bug to me. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: File roller extracting with double click, bug/feature ?
Thanks for the link to the blog post (thus the explanation to disable the feature). So you mentioned that "Extract here" should not be available. Actually it is available only if I enable the "Extract when opening" option in nautilus and is not available when I uncheck it. Is it not supposed to be the opposite ? You said that it could be caused by a version mismatch, but my system reports that version 3.22.1 of nautilus and 3.22.2 of file-roller are installed. Should I report this as a bug ? Thanks. 2016-11-12 16:41 GMT-05:00 Bastien Nocera : > On Sat, 2016-11-12 at 16:07 -0500, Baptiste Saleil wrote: > > Again, I was never prentious enough to say that someone is stupid. I > > only talked about a feature that I, personally, find "stupid", I > > never talked about an actual person and I never would. > > It's still not constructive. > > > To go back to the original question, would you be so kind as to send > > me links to the design pages and blog posts you mentioned earlier ? > > I already did link to one which you can use as a starting point. > ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: File roller extracting with double click, bug/feature ?
On Sat, 2016-11-12 at 16:07 -0500, Baptiste Saleil wrote: > Again, I was never prentious enough to say that someone is stupid. I > only talked about a feature that I, personally, find "stupid", I > never talked about an actual person and I never would. It's still not constructive. > To go back to the original question, would you be so kind as to send > me links to the design pages and blog posts you mentioned earlier ? I already did link to one which you can use as a starting point. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: File roller extracting with double click, bug/feature ?
Again, I was never prentious enough to say that someone is stupid. I only talked about a feature that I, personally, find "stupid", I never talked about an actual person and I never would. To go back to the original question, would you be so kind as to send me links to the design pages and blog posts you mentioned earlier ? Thanks. 2016-11-12 15:41 GMT-05:00 Bastien Nocera : > On Sat, 2016-11-12 at 13:12 -0500, Baptiste Saleil wrote: > In passing, I'm not a native english speaker.Maybe you took > personally the "you" in my last sentence, it was a general "you" > meaning the users and not the developers. Maybe I should have said > "If one wants..." > > Whether calling GNOME designers and developers stupid, or even Apple's > designers and developers stupid is not the level of discourse we > expect. > > Neither of the people that answered your original mail are native > English speakers. We're not interested in non-constructive criticism > and calling things "stupid" doesn't elevate the level. > > Fow what it's worth, apologising would likely have been easier and not > dragged this conversation any further. Alas... > ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: File roller extracting with double click, bug/feature ?
On Sat, 2016-11-12 at 13:12 -0500, Baptiste Saleil wrote: In passing, I'm not a native english speaker.Maybe you took personally the "you" in my last sentence, it was a general "you" meaning the users and not the developers. Maybe I should have said "If one wants..." Whether calling GNOME designers and developers stupid, or even Apple's designers and developers stupid is not the level of discourse we expect. Neither of the people that answered your original mail are native English speakers. We're not interested in non-constructive criticism and calling things "stupid" doesn't elevate the level. Fow what it's worth, apologising would likely have been easier and not dragged this conversation any further. Alas... ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: File roller extracting with double click, bug/feature ?
In passing, I'm not a native english speaker. Maybe you took personally the "you" in my last sentence, it was a general "you" meaning the users and not the developers. Maybe I should have said "If one wants..." 2016-11-12 12:51 GMT-05:00 Baptiste Saleil : > > > 2016-11-12 12:47 GMT-05:00 Emmanuele Bassi : > >> Hi; >> >> On 12 November 2016 at 17:31, Baptiste Saleil >> wrote: >> >> >> > IMHO, this is one of the most stupid features which is again probably >> >> > copied from the full-of-stupid-features MacOS. >> >> >> >> What exactly do you expect this sort of comment to achieve? >> > >> > >> > Just giving my opinion, "IMHO" states that it's only *my* opinion, and I >> > didn't and will never say that it's a universal opinion. >> >> Just because you prefix it with 'IMHO' it doesn't mean you get to use >> that kind of language; you're insulting the people that worked on >> Nautilus to design, implement, and test that feature. >> > The GNOME mailing lists are under a Code of Conduct, and as such you >> should refrain from being insulting and needlessly confrontational. >> >> > I'm sorry but I never insulted anyone, I just gave my opinion which is > that I think that some features are copied from MacOS. This is not an > insult. > Also I clearly asked from pointers to existing discussion in my first mail > but you're only responding to the sentence in which I give my opinion which > is probably the less interesting part of my first email. The only thing I > want is to read discussion, see uses cases of gnome users and understand > why people want this kind of feature. > > >> Ciao, >> Emmanuele. >> >> -- >> https://www.bassi.io >> [@] ebassi [@gmail.com] >> > > ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: File roller extracting with double click, bug/feature ?
2016-11-12 12:47 GMT-05:00 Emmanuele Bassi : > Hi; > > On 12 November 2016 at 17:31, Baptiste Saleil > wrote: > > >> > IMHO, this is one of the most stupid features which is again probably > >> > copied from the full-of-stupid-features MacOS. > >> > >> What exactly do you expect this sort of comment to achieve? > > > > > > Just giving my opinion, "IMHO" states that it's only *my* opinion, and I > > didn't and will never say that it's a universal opinion. > > Just because you prefix it with 'IMHO' it doesn't mean you get to use > that kind of language; you're insulting the people that worked on > Nautilus to design, implement, and test that feature. > The GNOME mailing lists are under a Code of Conduct, and as such you > should refrain from being insulting and needlessly confrontational. > > I'm sorry but I never insulted anyone, I just gave my opinion which is that I think that some features are copied from MacOS. This is not an insult. Also I clearly asked from pointers to existing discussion in my first mail but you're only responding to the sentence in which I give my opinion which is probably the less interesting part of my first email. The only thing I want is to read discussion, see uses cases of gnome users and understand why people want this kind of feature. > Ciao, > Emmanuele. > > -- > https://www.bassi.io > [@] ebassi [@gmail.com] > ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: File roller extracting with double click, bug/feature ?
Hi; On 12 November 2016 at 17:31, Baptiste Saleil wrote: >> > IMHO, this is one of the most stupid features which is again probably >> > copied from the full-of-stupid-features MacOS. >> >> What exactly do you expect this sort of comment to achieve? > > > Just giving my opinion, "IMHO" states that it's only *my* opinion, and I > didn't and will never say that it's a universal opinion. Just because you prefix it with 'IMHO' it doesn't mean you get to use that kind of language; you're insulting the people that worked on Nautilus to design, implement, and test that feature. The GNOME mailing lists are under a Code of Conduct, and as such you should refrain from being insulting and needlessly confrontational. Ciao, Emmanuele. -- https://www.bassi.io [@] ebassi [@gmail.com] ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Fwd: File roller extracting with double click, bug/feature ?
-- Forwarded message -- From: Baptiste Saleil Date: 2016-11-12 12:28 GMT-05:00 Subject: Re: File roller extracting with double click, bug/feature ? To: Bastien Nocera 2016-11-12 12:23 GMT-05:00 Bastien Nocera : > Hello Baptiste, > > On Sat, 2016-11-12 at 12:00 -0500, Baptiste Saleil wrote: > > Hi all. > > > > File roller extract my archives in current directory by double click > > since 3.22 > > Is this a bug or a feature ? > > > > If it's a feature, is there a bug report or discussion I can track to > > understand why devs choose to make this change ? > > It's not file-roller but nautilus, and the feature has been mentioned > in various blog posts, including this recap for GNOME 3.22: > https://csorianognome.wordpress.com/2016/08/31/nautilus-3-22-news-changes/ > > > IMHO, this is one of the most stupid features which is again probably > > copied from the full-of-stupid-features MacOS. > > What exactly do you expect this sort of comment to achieve? > Just giving my opinion, "IMHO" states that it's only *my* opinion, and I didn't and will never say that it's a universal opinion. > > > I mean, if you really want to extract an archive in the current > > directory, there is the "Extract here" context menu entry, and it's > > literaly the same amount of clicks. > > Looks like you have mismatched versions of file-roller and nautilus > though, because those 2 aren't supposed to appear at the same time. > > Please make sure you've read the various blog posts and design wiki > pages before commenting further, especially using that kind of > language. > Yes actually that's why I'm posting here, just to have some pointers to bug reports/wiki pages to understand your choices and read probably existing debate on this feature. Thanks. > > Cheers > ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: File roller extracting with double click, bug/feature ?
Hello Baptiste, On Sat, 2016-11-12 at 12:00 -0500, Baptiste Saleil wrote: > Hi all. > > File roller extract my archives in current directory by double click > since 3.22 > Is this a bug or a feature ? > > If it's a feature, is there a bug report or discussion I can track to > understand why devs choose to make this change ? It's not file-roller but nautilus, and the feature has been mentioned in various blog posts, including this recap for GNOME 3.22: https://csorianognome.wordpress.com/2016/08/31/nautilus-3-22-news-changes/ > IMHO, this is one of the most stupid features which is again probably > copied from the full-of-stupid-features MacOS. What exactly do you expect this sort of comment to achieve? > I mean, if you really want to extract an archive in the current > directory, there is the "Extract here" context menu entry, and it's > literaly the same amount of clicks. Looks like you have mismatched versions of file-roller and nautilus though, because those 2 aren't supposed to appear at the same time. Please make sure you've read the various blog posts and design wiki pages before commenting further, especially using that kind of language. Cheers ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
File roller extracting with double click, bug/feature ?
Hi all. File roller extract my archives in current directory by double click since 3.22 Is this a bug or a feature ? If it's a feature, is there a bug report or discussion I can track to understand why devs choose to make this change ? IMHO, this is one of the most stupid features which is again probably copied from the full-of-stupid-features MacOS. I mean, if you really want to extract an archive in the current directory, there is the "Extract here" context menu entry, and it's literaly the same amount of clicks. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
