Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24?
Brian Cameron wrote: I'm not sure this is a really important regression. You can configure the new GDM to always launch various AT programs as needed. The main lost feature is that users cannot launch AT programs on demand. I'm curious who the you is you can configure. The important thing here is independence. People with disabilities need to be able to do as much as possible without the need for assistance. Will ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24?
Willie: I'm not sure this is a really important regression. You can configure the new GDM to always launch various AT programs as needed. The main lost feature is that users cannot launch AT programs on demand. I'm curious who the you is you can configure. The important thing here is independence. People with disabilities need to be able to do as much as possible without the need for assistance. Since GDM has never had a11y turned on by default, a person with disabilities would likely need help to set up either the old or new GDM to work for them. Or, if a person could boot up into console mode with a11y enabled, then the person could probably set up the configuration themselves. The long-term goal is to make GDM and GNOME in general work better for independent usage, but we're not there yet. Brian ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24?
fr., 19.09.2008 kl. 00.34 +0200, skrev Vincent Untz: Le mercredi 17 septembre 2008, à 17:23 -0400, Willie Walker a écrit : Well...hmm...if I read the answers correctly, I think what I'm hearing is that there are a lot of great ideas, but they aren't done yet. If this is the case, then I think this sounds like a regression. I see nobody jumping in to say it's not a regression. So, we're going with GDM 2.20, I guess... Is there any objection? I see people saying it's a regression, but what does it mean in practise? Is a11y busted? Is it a minor inconvenience affecting only login? Can someone please post a list of pros and cons for this specific issue wrt 2.22 vs 2.24? Cheers Kjartan ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24?
So...I think it boils down to whether people with disabilities can log into the desktop or not. I'm not sure I've really seen a good answer on this. Will On Sep 19, 2008, at 3:21 AM, Kjartan Maraas wrote: fr., 19.09.2008 kl. 00.34 +0200, skrev Vincent Untz: Le mercredi 17 septembre 2008, à 17:23 -0400, Willie Walker a écrit : Well...hmm...if I read the answers correctly, I think what I'm hearing is that there are a lot of great ideas, but they aren't done yet. If this is the case, then I think this sounds like a regression. I see nobody jumping in to say it's not a regression. So, we're going with GDM 2.20, I guess... Is there any objection? I see people saying it's a regression, but what does it mean in practise? Is a11y busted? Is it a minor inconvenience affecting only login? Can someone please post a list of pros and cons for this specific issue wrt 2.22 vs 2.24? Cheers Kjartan ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24?
Kjartan/Willie: fr., 19.09.2008 kl. 00.34 +0200, skrev Vincent Untz: Le mercredi 17 septembre 2008, à 17:23 -0400, Willie Walker a écrit : Well...hmm...if I read the answers correctly, I think what I'm hearing is that there are a lot of great ideas, but they aren't done yet. If this is the case, then I think this sounds like a regression. I see nobody jumping in to say it's not a regression. So, we're going with GDM 2.20, I guess... Is there any objection? I see people saying it's a regression, but what does it mean in practise? Is a11y busted? Is it a minor inconvenience affecting only login? Can someone please post a list of pros and cons for this specific issue wrt 2.22 vs 2.24? I'm not sure this is a really important regression. You can configure the new GDM to always launch various AT programs as needed. The main lost feature is that users cannot launch AT programs on demand. This feature is mostly useful in multi-user terminal situations (e.g. terminal servers), which aren't supported in the new GDM anyway. This feature is also useful in situations where multiple users may share the same computer, but some users don't want AT programs to launch and others do. The old GDM 2.20 doesn't turn on a11y by default anyway, so users with a11y needs need to configure GDM before using it. So the new GDM isn't much worse. I don't think this particular issue should be a blocker. The more serious issue is that the new GDM doesn't support managing multiple displays. But it seems the release team is agreeable to accepting this as a regression. At any rate, I'll leave this up to the release team to decide if the new GDM is ready or not. Brian ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24?
Le mercredi 17 septembre 2008, à 17:23 -0400, Willie Walker a écrit : Well...hmm...if I read the answers correctly, I think what I'm hearing is that there are a lot of great ideas, but they aren't done yet. If this is the case, then I think this sounds like a regression. I see nobody jumping in to say it's not a regression. So, we're going with GDM 2.20, I guess... Is there any objection? Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24?
Le mercredi 10 septembre 2008, à 09:39 -0400, Willie Walker a écrit : Hi: I asked this earlier, but I might have missed the response. Have the accessibility issues been resolved with the new GDM? In particular, does accessible login still work and do the keyboard/mouse/dwell gestures still work to launch assistive technologies? I know there was a great plan in place (thanks Jon McCann!), but if it hasn't been completed, I think this is a show stopper regression. :-( Willie, any opinion after Ray's and Brian's replies? Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24?
Well...hmm...if I read the answers correctly, I think what I'm hearing is that there are a lot of great ideas, but they aren't done yet. If this is the case, then I think this sounds like a regression. Please note that I think the ideas are really good and I respect the work being done. I'm not at all against it, and I have respect for the people doing the work. When completed, it sounds like it will be much better than what is working today. My main concern is the amount of flak and e-mail I get from end users who might end up not being able to login into their machines anymore without jumping through hoops. Will Vincent Untz wrote: Le mercredi 10 septembre 2008, à 09:39 -0400, Willie Walker a écrit : Hi: I asked this earlier, but I might have missed the response. Have the accessibility issues been resolved with the new GDM? In particular, does accessible login still work and do the keyboard/mouse/dwell gestures still work to launch assistive technologies? I know there was a great plan in place (thanks Jon McCann!), but if it hasn't been completed, I think this is a show stopper regression. :-( Willie, any opinion after Ray's and Brian's replies? Vincent ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24?
Hi, On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 6:39 PM, Vincent Untz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le mercredi 10 septembre 2008, à 09:39 -0400, Willie Walker a écrit : Hi: I asked this earlier, but I might have missed the response. Have the accessibility issues been resolved with the new GDM? In particular, does accessible login still work and do the keyboard/mouse/dwell gestures still work to launch assistive technologies? I know there was a great plan in place (thanks Jon McCann!), but if it hasn't been completed, I think this is a show stopper regression. :-( Let's do it this way: if there's no reply about this before Tuesday noon (UTC), we go with the old GDM (where reply can be it's not ready, it's ready, we're working on this). I hate putting deadlines for this kind of things, but translators need to know what we're going to do. I think Jon is in Portland right now for the Plumbers conference, so I'll try to answer for him. I believe Brian wrote some code to port the dwell listeners over to the new GDM some time ago. It's not completely finished, but it's most of the way there. On the other hand, Jon wants it to be done from gnome-settings-daemon instead of from GDM. One of the big rationales for Jon's recent desktop a11y work was so that a user can come up to a system in an unknown state (logged in or logged out) and take a known set of actions to make that system accessible to that user. So to answer the question to the best of my ability (and Jon or Brian would be better to answer), 1) there is some inprogress code that Brian Cameron wrote 2) that code targeted GDM when it was written, isn't slated for GDM now, and instead needs to get reworked to go into gnome-settings-daemon Hope that helps, Ray ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24?
on., 10.09.2008 kl. 14.49 +0200, skrev Vincent Untz: Le mercredi 03 septembre 2008, à 22:27 +0200, Andre Klapper a écrit : We'd like to have a decision made by this weekend so there's two weeks left for translators. Comments highly welcome, so you can't blame release-team only in the end. ;-) Thanks everybody who jumped in the discussion. From what I see, there's no consensus in this thread. An important thing for GDM is that in most cases, really, it's the distributors that decide what gets shipped and I don't know a lot of people using GDM from jhbuild. So keep in mind that the message that we want to send is mainly to distributors (FWIW, some already chose to stay with the old GDM, and some chose to go with the new one). I don't see us ignoring a good bunch of the comments (there are good points on each side), so there are two ways to go forward: + use GDM 2.24, and mention that it is not ready for all uses (listing the use cases where it needs work would help), and that GDM 2.20 is still available and working. + stay with GDM 2.20, and mention that we have a new GDM coming soon. We kind of did solution b for 2.22, but it turned out not a lot of people stepped up to fix the remaining issues in the new GDM. It could be because the community was not aware of all this, though. Right now, I'm leaning towards solution a (assuming the new GDM works fine and there's no major non-regression bugs). I'm not happy with regressions (I'd say this is a good example to keep in mind when reworking a module -- do not ignore the old feature set or clearly explain why your remove some features), but I would think that without sending a clear message, people will still stay with GDM 2.20 in 2.26, and so on. I'm leaning in the same direction. Having used the new GDM since it landed in rawhide (was that before even Fedora 9?) I must say that I've had no problems with it so far. None that haven't been fixed within a reasonable amount of time at least. ObFutureVision: How about making GDM just be the gnome-screensaver unlock dialog and let everything else start in the background? :-) Cheers Kjartan ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24?
Vincent: I don't see us ignoring a good bunch of the comments (there are good points on each side), so there are two ways to go forward: + use GDM 2.24, and mention that it is not ready for all uses (listing the use cases where it needs work would help), and that GDM 2.20 is still available and working. + stay with GDM 2.20, and mention that we have a new GDM coming soon. We kind of did solution b for 2.22, but it turned out not a lot of people stepped up to fix the remaining issues in the new GDM. I don't think this is true. A lot of issues hav ebeen addressed in the 2.24 timeframe. GDM 2.24 will have considerably less regressions than GDM had. I think that the issue is that re-implementing some of the regressions is just time-consuming. Plus some of the people working on GDM have also been focused on adding new functionalities (such as features available via the new GDM panel like power management and keyboard switching functionalities) rather than addressing the identified regressions. Brian ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24?
2008/9/5 Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Le jeudi 04 septembre 2008 à 15:50 +0200, Patryk Zawadzki a écrit : * The new gdm uses gnome-session to launch necessary stuff so we get all kind a11y tools support, power management (which is *very* important to mobile users) and all the stuff you can think of and write a .desktop file for. How does it cope with other (non-GNOME) session managers? gnome-session is invoked using a special mode, it brings a special session crafted for GDM (using a different autostart path). This should not collide with other sessions (as it is a separate process from your regular user's session) and I can't see why it would affect other *DMs. -- Patryk Zawadzki ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24?
On Wed, 2008-09-03 at 22:27 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: So, the release-team normally asks on d-d-l for comments on new modules and dependencies. In this case I'd like to ask for valuable feedback on gdm trunk. Among the release-team there are different opinions whether to use trunk or 2.20.x for GNOME 2.24 and hence different opinions on regressions (and the definition of that term) and missing or rewritten functionality. As far as I know, Fedora and Foresight ship trunk, while Ubuntu and Mandriva tend to ship 2.20.x. Opensuse releases in December so no real use in asking them. No idea about Debian. Don't know if providing links to former discussion threads might influence opinions. Feel free to ignore these links and to share your own non-influenced experience instead: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/release-team/2008-August/msg00021.html http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gdm-list/2008-July/msg00028.html http://mail.gnome.org/archives/release-team/2008-August/msg00072.html We'd like to have a decision made by this weekend so there's two weeks left for translators. Comments highly welcome, so you can't blame release-team only in the end. ;-) According to what I'm reading in those links, I'd say it's not ready yet. No configuration migration plus no graphical configuration? I mean, configuration migration is *most* important on the first release. We have a six-month release cycle for a reason. Let's wait. In six months, we can make a release that makes people say Wow, instead of releasing now and making people say WTF. -- Shaun ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24?
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 9:24 AM, Shaun McCance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to what I'm reading in those links, I'd say it's not ready yet. No configuration migration plus no graphical configuration? I mean, configuration migration is *most* important on the first release. We have a six-month release cycle for a reason. Let's wait. In six months, we can make a release that makes people say Wow, instead of releasing now and making people say WTF. As long as the people who scream 'regression' are not jumping to help fix those regressions they care about, its not going to look much different in 6 months... ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24?
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 3:24 PM, Shaun McCance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2008-09-03 at 22:27 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: So, the release-team normally asks on d-d-l for comments on new modules and dependencies. In this case I'd like to ask for valuable feedback on gdm trunk. Among the release-team there are different opinions whether to use trunk or 2.20.x for GNOME 2.24 and hence different opinions on regressions (and the definition of that term) and missing or rewritten functionality. As far as I know, Fedora and Foresight ship trunk, while Ubuntu and Mandriva tend to ship 2.20.x. Opensuse releases in December so no real use in asking them. No idea about Debian. Don't know if providing links to former discussion threads might influence opinions. Feel free to ignore these links and to share your own non-influenced experience instead: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/release-team/2008-August/msg00021.html http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gdm-list/2008-July/msg00028.html http://mail.gnome.org/archives/release-team/2008-August/msg00072.html We'd like to have a decision made by this weekend so there's two weeks left for translators. Comments highly welcome, so you can't blame release-team only in the end. ;-) According to what I'm reading in those links, I'd say it's not ready yet. No configuration migration plus no graphical configuration? I mean, configuration migration is *most* important on the first release. We have a six-month release cycle for a reason. Let's wait. In six months, we can make a release that makes people say Wow, instead of releasing now and making people say WTF. I've been using the new gdm since 2.22 and can't say that any of the reported issues would be a blocker for me. * The old pretty themes were a huge mess. From machine to machine login inputs moved across the screen, varied in size, color and visibility. Some themes chose to use the user list, some required you to enter the login. Most of theme were broken in one way or another: showing errors in black font on black background, overlapping errors with the login or password widgets, hiding feedback from biometric backends (the infamous put finger prompt when the device is ready) etc. * There is no GUI configuration but I personally don't know a person who would miss the old gdmsetup binary. It was ugly and half of the distros required you to run it manually with sudo. The settings are there in gconf so everyone is free to come up with a configuration tool if you find anything worth configuring there (the main reason people needed gdmsetup was to switch from the default ugly theme to some random other ugly theme which is now irrelevant) * The new gdm uses gnome-session to launch necessary stuff so we get all kind a11y tools support, power management (which is *very* important to mobile users) and all the stuff you can think of and write a .desktop file for. -- Patryk Zawadzki ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24?
Patryk Zawadzki wrote: * There is no GUI configuration but I personally don't know a person who would miss the old gdmsetup binary. It was ugly and half of the distros required you to run it manually with sudo. The settings are there in gconf so everyone is free to come up with a configuration tool if you find anything worth configuring there (the main reason people needed gdmsetup was to switch from the default ugly theme to some random other ugly theme which is now irrelevant) All I'm missing about it is automatic-login after 30 secs on my home machine. Maybe I give it a try putting a GUI on this and some other useful configurations. behdad ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24?
On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 09:45 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 9:24 AM, Shaun McCance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to what I'm reading in those links, I'd say it's not ready yet. No configuration migration plus no graphical configuration? I mean, configuration migration is *most* important on the first release. We have a six-month release cycle for a reason. Let's wait. In six months, we can make a release that makes people say Wow, instead of releasing now and making people say WTF. As long as the people who scream 'regression' are not jumping to help fix those regressions they care about, its not going to look much different in 6 months... Sorry, I was under the impression that the maintainers were actively working on these things, and that they just didn't have time to get it all in before 2.24. Is there seriously nobody working on these things? If a ground-up rewrite is already unmaintained, I'd drop it like a hot potato. -- Shaun ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24?
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Shaun McCance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As long as the people who scream 'regression' are not jumping to help fix those regressions they care about, its not going to look much different in 6 months... Sorry, I was under the impression that the maintainers were actively working on these things, and that they just didn't have time to get it all in before 2.24. Is there seriously nobody working on these things? If a ground-up rewrite is already unmaintained, I'd drop it like a hot potato. Thats not what I said at all. But the maintainers are obliged to fix everybodys pet regression, they work on things they consider important. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24?
2008/9/4 Patryk Zawadzki [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 3:24 PM, Shaun McCance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2008-09-03 at 22:27 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: So, the release-team normally asks on d-d-l for comments on new modules and dependencies. In this case I'd like to ask for valuable feedback on gdm trunk. Among the release-team there are different opinions whether to use trunk or 2.20.x for GNOME 2.24 and hence different opinions on regressions (and the definition of that term) and missing or rewritten functionality. As far as I know, Fedora and Foresight ship trunk, while Ubuntu and Mandriva tend to ship 2.20.x. Opensuse releases in December so no real use in asking them. No idea about Debian. Don't know if providing links to former discussion threads might influence opinions. Feel free to ignore these links and to share your own non-influenced experience instead: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/release-team/2008-August/msg00021.html http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gdm-list/2008-July/msg00028.html http://mail.gnome.org/archives/release-team/2008-August/msg00072.html We'd like to have a decision made by this weekend so there's two weeks left for translators. Comments highly welcome, so you can't blame release-team only in the end. ;-) According to what I'm reading in those links, I'd say it's not ready yet. No configuration migration plus no graphical configuration? I mean, configuration migration is *most* important on the first release. We have a six-month release cycle for a reason. Let's wait. In six months, we can make a release that makes people say Wow, instead of releasing now and making people say WTF. I've been using the new gdm since 2.22 and can't say that any of the reported issues would be a blocker for me. * The old pretty themes were a huge mess. From machine to machine login inputs moved across the screen, varied in size, color and visibility. Some themes chose to use the user list, some required you to enter the login. Most of theme were broken in one way or another: showing errors in black font on black background, overlapping errors with the login or password widgets, hiding feedback from biometric backends (the infamous put finger prompt when the device is ready) etc. I kind of agree, but don't forget about the big amount of branded GDM's out there based on those themes. * There is no GUI configuration but I personally don't know a person who would miss the old gdmsetup binary. It was ugly and half of the distros required you to run it manually with sudo. The settings are there in gconf so everyone is free to come up with a configuration tool if you find anything worth configuring there (the main reason people needed gdmsetup was to switch from the default ugly theme to some random other ugly theme which is now irrelevant) I do use it, for more reasons than just switching ugly themes. I think you're oversimplifying how big the regresion is here. In terminal server deployments, the gdm configuration is not trivial to setup, it usually requires tweaking the text file directly to get where you want. I consider having no migration path and no UI tool a huge regression. * The new gdm uses gnome-session to launch necessary stuff so we get all kind a11y tools support, power management (which is *very* important to mobile users) and all the stuff you can think of and write a .desktop file for. -- Un saludo, Alberto Ruiz ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24?
Top Ten Reasons People Complain About Gnome: * Number 1: This statement: On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 15:50 +0200, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: The settings are there in gconf so everyone is free to come up with a configuration tool if you find anything worth configuring there ... -- Shaun ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24?
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:05 PM, Shaun McCance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Top Ten Reasons People Complain About Gnome: * Number 1: This statement: On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 15:50 +0200, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: The settings are there in gconf so everyone is free to come up with a configuration tool if you find anything worth configuring there It wasn't meant as a provide patch kind of statement. I just believe this falls out of scope of GDM and should be part of control center. -- Patryk Zawadzki ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24?
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:05 PM, Alberto Ruiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/9/4 Patryk Zawadzki [EMAIL PROTECTED]: * There is no GUI configuration but I personally don't know a person who would miss the old gdmsetup binary. It was ugly and half of the distros required you to run it manually with sudo. The settings are there in gconf so everyone is free to come up with a configuration tool if you find anything worth configuring there (the main reason people needed gdmsetup was to switch from the default ugly theme to some random other ugly theme which is now irrelevant) I do use it, for more reasons than just switching ugly themes. I think you're oversimplifying how big the regresion is here. In terminal server deployments, the gdm configuration is not trivial to setup, it usually requires tweaking the text file directly to get where you want. I consider having no migration path and no UI tool a huge regression. There is no migration path as none is required. The configuration file is the same and its location is the same :) -- Patryk Zawadzki ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24?
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 10:05 AM, Alberto Ruiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In terminal server deployments, the gdm configuration is not trivial to setup, it usually requires tweaking the text file directly to get where you want. I consider having no migration path and no UI tool a huge regression. Personally I think we should be pushing admins towards things like preconfigured terminal server images or puppet configuration. In any case our story on graphical admin tools in general is not very good, not having gdmsetup doesn't seem like it's going to make a big difference. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24?
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Matthias Clasen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Shaun McCance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As long as the people who scream 'regression' are not jumping to help fix those regressions they care about, its not going to look much different in 6 months... Sorry, I was under the impression that the maintainers were actively working on these things, and that they just didn't have time to get it all in before 2.24. Is there seriously nobody working on these things? If a ground-up rewrite is already unmaintained, I'd drop it like a hot potato. Thats not what I said at all. But the maintainers are obliged to fix everybodys pet regression, they work on things they consider important. 'not obliged' was what I meant to say, obviously... ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24?
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:11 PM, Patryk Zawadzki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:05 PM, Shaun McCance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Top Ten Reasons People Complain About Gnome: * Number 1: This statement: On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 15:50 +0200, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: The settings are there in gconf so everyone is free to come up with a configuration tool if you find anything worth configuring there It wasn't meant as a provide patch kind of statement. I just believe this falls out of scope of GDM and should be part of control center. Another attempt trying to be more clear: I believe the user/group administration tool should provide an option to automatically log in one of the users. Something like that below the list: [x] Automatically log in [ johndoe |↓] if no user is chosen in [ 5 ] seconds. Not sure if we really need the wallpaper configuration - distros are free to set the default wallpaper to a branded one. If so, consider allowing an admin to set a default wallpaper for the system (as was already proposed). -- Patryk Zawadzki ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24?
2008/9/4 Colin Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 10:05 AM, Alberto Ruiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In terminal server deployments, the gdm configuration is not trivial to setup, it usually requires tweaking the text file directly to get where you want. I consider having no migration path and no UI tool a huge regression. Personally I think we should be pushing admins towards things like preconfigured terminal server images or puppet configuration. In any case our story on graphical admin tools in general is not very good, not having gdmsetup doesn't seem like it's going to make a big difference. Except scenarios when people want to manage GDM themes (almost one of four situations) or when they want to create auto login, or... That is really shortsighted argument that gdmsetup is only used by admins. It is used by common users, as most of other configuration tools (no matter how buggy they are). There MUST be a gdmsetup replacement. Period. Why we have this conversation in fact? It was the same with gio/gvfs, when who cares when there is no Connect to Server...dialog was a top tune here. I personally as user can accept that gdm is released without config tool, but I would really like to see development of new one. Just my two cents, cheers, Peter. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
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On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 16:11 +0200, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:05 PM, Shaun McCance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Top Ten Reasons People Complain About Gnome: * Number 1: This statement: On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 15:50 +0200, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: The settings are there in gconf so everyone is free to come up with a configuration tool if you find anything worth configuring there It wasn't meant as a provide patch kind of statement. I just believe this falls out of scope of GDM and should be part of control center. I wasn't referring to the provide a patch attitude. To some degree, that's inevitable in any free software project. I was referring to the attitude that we can stick things in GConf without a graphical configuration tool. Every single release, the semi-joke response on any give forum is What options did they remove this time? Could we at least try to avoid giving them fodder? -- Shaun ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24?
On 9/4/08, Peteris Krisjanis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/9/4 Colin Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 10:05 AM, Alberto Ruiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In terminal server deployments, the gdm configuration is not trivial to setup, it usually requires tweaking the text file directly to get where you want. I consider having no migration path and no UI tool a huge regression. Personally I think we should be pushing admins towards things like preconfigured terminal server images or puppet configuration. In any case our story on graphical admin tools in general is not very good, not having gdmsetup doesn't seem like it's going to make a big difference. Except scenarios when people want to manage GDM themes (almost one of four situations) or when they want to create auto login, or... That is really shortsighted argument that gdmsetup is only used by admins. It is used by common users, as most of other configuration tools (no matter how buggy they are). #1 reason why my friends drool for GNOME: you can switch themes (that includes gdm and desktop for them). I confirm that there's a mass of people that actually change GDM themes just because they want to, first thing I do in every computer I install is to remove the ugly Ubuntu gdm theme and put something else. Just take a look at art.gnome.org: http://art.gnome.org/themes/gdm_greeter/ If it wasn't important, people would not be theming it like crazy, I humbly think we shouldn't take this feature like a trivial one, just look at how many users get to the point of sharing what they do with it. We shouldn't remove that from the community. Don't understimate this kind of stuff. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
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On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Diego Escalante Urrelo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: #1 reason why my friends drool for GNOME: you can switch themes (that includes gdm and desktop for them). I confirm that there's a mass of people that actually change GDM themes just because they want to, first thing I do in every computer I install is to remove the ugly Ubuntu gdm theme and put something else. Just take a look at art.gnome.org: http://art.gnome.org/themes/gdm_greeter/ If it wasn't important, people would not be theming it like crazy, I humbly think we shouldn't take this feature like a trivial one, just look at how many users get to the point of sharing what they do with it. We shouldn't remove that from the community. Don't understimate this kind of stuff. I do understand that people like theming but I also believe theming a login screen leads to bad results. We should permit people to do so but it's not a stopper for me. I think if we ship gdm 2.24, a working themeable greeter implementation and a configuration GUI will popup in the Ubuntu forums during the first month. It's like telling people we can't ship an audio player because it does not handle GUI skins yet. Most of us want a working tool in the first place, customizable GUI is just an eye-candy gimmick :) -- Patryk Zawadzki ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
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Don't understimate this kind of stuff. I do understand that people like theming but I also believe theming a login screen leads to bad results. We should permit people to do so but it's not a stopper for me. And it is not a stopper for me, either. _However_, it is essential for someone to pick up where gdmsetup left and start to code. Sure, gdmsetup was old and somehow obsolete, but it was working. So we need something which works for most needed functions, at least, as soon as possible. I would like to do that, but I don't have enough expierence to do this effectively on short notice. Of course, if no one picks it up in two weeks, I propably would be lured into doing this using pygtk. I think if we ship gdm 2.24, a working themeable greeter implementation and a configuration GUI will popup in the Ubuntu forums during the first month. This is very speculative. Ubuntu still lacks lot of needed configuration apps, and why only this distro matters? It's like telling people we can't ship an audio player because it does not handle GUI skins yet. Most of us want a working tool in the first place, customizable GUI is just an eye-candy gimmick :) Problem is that users tolerate gdm only because it can be made to look cool. So in that light theming feature gets a must have status. In overall, someone must do it, release it or not to release it with GNOME. Question is - who will do it. -- Patryk Zawadzki Cheers, Peter. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
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On 04.09.2008 16:11, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 15:50 +0200, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: The settings are there in gconf so everyone is free to come up with a configuration tool if you find anything worth configuring there It wasn't meant as a provide patch kind of statement. I just believe this falls out of scope of GDM and should be part of control center. Configuration dialogs for applications belong to the respective applications, not in the control center. Even if that wasn't so, saying it should live somewhere else is certainly not going to fix the problem. Jens ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
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On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 6:28 PM, Jens Granseuer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 04.09.2008 16:11, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 15:50 +0200, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: The settings are there in gconf so everyone is free to come up with a configuration tool if you find anything worth configuring there It wasn't meant as a provide patch kind of statement. I just believe this falls out of scope of GDM and should be part of control center. Configuration dialogs for applications belong to the respective applications, not in the control center. Even if that wasn't so, saying it should live somewhere else is certainly not going to fix the problem. The system default wallpaper is not a gdm-specific setting. -- Patryk Zawadzki ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
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On 04.09.2008 18:40, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 6:28 PM, Jens Granseuer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Configuration dialogs for applications belong to the respective applications, not in the control center. Even if that wasn't so, saying it should live somewhere else is certainly not going to fix the problem. The system default wallpaper is not a gdm-specific setting. Who's talking about the system default wallpaper? Jens ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
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Would it be possible to make the theme selectable from within the greeter itself? Maybe have a theme menu near the shutdown menu and let you select from a list/menu? Martin On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 1:35 PM, Patryk Zawadzki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 6:56 PM, Jens Granseuer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 04.09.2008 18:40, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 6:28 PM, Jens Granseuer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Configuration dialogs for applications belong to the respective applications, not in the control center. Even if that wasn't so, saying it should live somewhere else is certainly not going to fix the problem. The system default wallpaper is not a gdm-specific setting. Who's talking about the system default wallpaper? gdm uses the default wallpaper as the login wallpaper. Please, let's try to find a way forward and don't put negative energy into it. We are software engineers and software is not a religion. It's normal to have 20 opinions among 15 people and we shouldn't take this stuff personally. I've posted earlier about adding autologin to gnome-system-tools, any comments on that? It would be easy to hide the option if the DBus interface is unavailable so it won't add any new dependencies. It's not likely to hit 2.24 as we're in UI freeze and string freeze :/ -- Patryk Zawadzki ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
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On 04.09.2008 19:35, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: I've posted earlier about adding autologin to gnome-system-tools, any comments on that? It would be easy to hide the option if the DBus interface is unavailable so it won't add any new dependencies. Personally, I don't think scattering the login manager options all over the place is an improvement. Jens ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
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On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 7:46 PM, Jens Granseuer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 04.09.2008 19:35, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: I've posted earlier about adding autologin to gnome-system-tools, any comments on that? It would be easy to hide the option if the DBus interface is unavailable so it won't add any new dependencies. Personally, I don't think scattering the login manager options all over the place is an improvement. I don't think average users perceive the login screen as a separate application. Most people I know tend to think desktop and login are one big solid box and applications are the things that sit in the menus. I think setting the login wallpaper in the Appearance capplet and enabling autologin in the Users/Groups management capplet is the natural place to look for such settings. The bonus here is that GNOME feels more integrated (that's also why I think the screensaver properties should be a part of appearance but there is no obvious place to put the session idle delay option). -- Patryk Zawadzki ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
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Hi: I know Jon McCann and company did some proactive work to include accessibility in the redesign (thanks Jon!), but I'm not sure what the status of that is. If they can show that accessible login works, along with the keyboard/mouse/dwell gesturing mechanisms to launch assistive technologies at the login screen, it would ease my mind. :-) Thanks! Will Andre Klapper wrote: So, the release-team normally asks on d-d-l for comments on new modules and dependencies. In this case I'd like to ask for valuable feedback on gdm trunk. Among the release-team there are different opinions whether to use trunk or 2.20.x for GNOME 2.24 and hence different opinions on regressions (and the definition of that term) and missing or rewritten functionality. As far as I know, Fedora and Foresight ship trunk, while Ubuntu and Mandriva tend to ship 2.20.x. Opensuse releases in December so no real use in asking them. No idea about Debian. Don't know if providing links to former discussion threads might influence opinions. Feel free to ignore these links and to share your own non-influenced experience instead: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/release-team/2008-August/msg00021.html http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gdm-list/2008-July/msg00028.html http://mail.gnome.org/archives/release-team/2008-August/msg00072.html We'd like to have a decision made by this weekend so there's two weeks left for translators. Comments highly welcome, so you can't blame release-team only in the end. ;-) andre ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
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-> Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? desktop-devel-list -- Thread -- -- Date -- <!-- google_ad_client = "pub-7266757337600734"; google_alternate_ad_url = "http://www.mail-archive.com/blank.png"; google_ad_width = 160; google_ad_height = 600; google_ad_format = "160x600_as"; google_ad_channel = "8427791634"; google_color_border = "FF"; google_color_bg = "FF"; google_color_link = "006792"; google_color_url = "006792"; google_color_text = "00"; //--> Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Josselin Mouette Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Patryk Zawadzki Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Patryk Zawadzki Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Andre Klapper Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Germán Póo-Caamaño Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Diego Escalante Urrelo Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Mathias Hasselmann Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Mathias Hasselmann Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Vincent Untz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Willie Walker Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Matteo Settenvini Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Alberto Ruiz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Vincent Untz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Ray Strode Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Patryk Zawadzki Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Kjartan Maraas Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Reply via email to <!-- google_ad_client = "pub-7266757337600734"; google_alternate_ad_url = "http://www.mail-archive.com/blank.png"; google_ad_width = 160; google_ad_height = 600; google_ad_format = "160x600_as"; google_ad_channel = "8427791634"; google_color_border = "FFFFFF"; google_color_bg = "FF"; google_color_link = "006792"; google_color_url = "006792"; google_color_text = "00"; //--> Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Pacho Ramos Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Josselin Mouette Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Patryk Zawadzki Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Patryk Zawadzki Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Andre Klapper Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Diego Escalante Urrelo Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Mathias Hasselmann Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Mathias Hasselmann Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Vincent Untz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Willie Walker Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Matteo Settenvini Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Alberto Ruiz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Vincent Untz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Ray Strode Re: [gdm-list] GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Patryk Zawadzki Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Kjartan Maraas Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Reply via email to <!-- google_ad_client = "pub-7266757337600734"; google_alternate_ad_url = "http://www.mail-archive.com/blank.png"; google_ad_width = 160; google_ad_height = 600; google_ad_format = "160x600_as"; google_ad_channel = "8427791634"; google_color_border = "FF"; google_color_bg = "FF"; google_color_link = "006792"; google_color_url = "006792"; google_color_text = "000000"; //--> Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Pacho Ramos Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Josselin Mouette Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Patryk Zawadzki Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Patryk Zawadzki Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Andre Klapper Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Diego Escalante Urrelo Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Mathias Hasselmann Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Mathias Hasselmann Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Vincent Untz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Willie Walker Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Matteo Settenvini Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Alberto Ruiz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Vi
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-> Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? desktop-devel-list -- Thread -- -- Date -- <!-- google_ad_client = "pub-7266757337600734"; google_alternate_ad_url = "http://www.mail-archive.com/blank.png"; google_ad_width = 160; google_ad_height = 600; google_ad_format = "160x600_as"; google_ad_channel = "8427791634"; google_color_border = "FF"; google_color_bg = "FF"; google_color_link = "006792"; google_color_url = "006792"; google_color_text = "00"; //--> Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Patryk Zawadzki Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Patryk Zawadzki Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Andre Klapper Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Germán Póo-Caamaño Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Diego Escalante Urrelo Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Mathias Hasselmann Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Mathias Hasselmann Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Vincent Untz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Willie Walker Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Matteo Settenvini Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Alberto Ruiz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Vincent Untz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Ray Strode Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Patryk Zawadzki Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Kjartan Maraas Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Reply via email to <!-- google_ad_client = "pub-7266757337600734"; google_alternate_ad_url = "http://www.mail-archive.com/blank.png"; google_ad_width = 160; google_ad_height = 600; google_ad_format = "160x600_as"; google_ad_channel = "8427791634"; google_color_border = "FFFFFF"; google_color_bg = "FF"; google_color_link = "006792"; google_color_url = "006792"; google_color_text = "00"; //--> Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Josselin Mouette Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Patryk Zawadzki Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Patryk Zawadzki Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Andre Klapper Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Diego Escalante Urrelo Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Mathias Hasselmann Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Mathias Hasselmann Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Vincent Untz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Willie Walker Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Matteo Settenvini Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Alberto Ruiz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Vincent Untz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Ray Strode Re: [gdm-list] GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Patryk Zawadzki Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Kjartan Maraas Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Reply via email to <!-- google_ad_client = "pub-7266757337600734"; google_alternate_ad_url = "http://www.mail-archive.com/blank.png"; google_ad_width = 160; google_ad_height = 600; google_ad_format = "160x600_as"; google_ad_channel = "8427791634"; google_color_border = "FF"; google_color_bg = "FF"; google_color_link = "006792"; google_color_url = "006792"; google_color_text = "000000"; //--> Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Josselin Mouette Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Patryk Zawadzki Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Patryk Zawadzki Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Andre Klapper Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Diego Escalante Urrelo Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Mathias Hasselmann Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Mathias Hasselmann Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Vincent Untz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Willie Walker Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Matteo Settenvini Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Alberto Ruiz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Vincent Untz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Ray Strode Re: [gdm-list] GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Vincent
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-> Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? desktop-devel-list -- Thread -- -- Date -- <!-- google_ad_client = "pub-7266757337600734"; google_alternate_ad_url = "http://www.mail-archive.com/blank.png"; google_ad_width = 160; google_ad_height = 600; google_ad_format = "160x600_as"; google_ad_channel = "8427791634"; google_color_border = "FF"; google_color_bg = "FF"; google_color_link = "006792"; google_color_url = "006792"; google_color_text = "000000"; //--> Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Mathias Hasselmann Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Mathias Hasselmann Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Vincent Untz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Willie Walker Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Matteo Settenvini Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Alberto Ruiz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Vincent Untz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Ray Strode Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Patryk Zawadzki Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Kjartan Maraas Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Reply via email to <!-- google_ad_client = "pub-7266757337600734"; google_alternate_ad_url = "http://www.mail-archive.com/blank.png"; google_ad_width = 160; google_ad_height = 600; google_ad_format = "160x600_as"; google_ad_channel = "8427791634"; google_color_border = "FFFFFF"; google_color_bg = "FF"; google_color_link = "006792"; google_color_url = "006792"; google_color_text = "00"; //--> Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Mathias Hasselmann Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Vincent Untz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Willie Walker Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Matteo Settenvini Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Alberto Ruiz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Vincent Untz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Ray Strode Re: [gdm-list] GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Patryk Zawadzki Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Kjartan Maraas Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Reply via email to <!-- google_ad_client = "pub-7266757337600734"; google_alternate_ad_url = "http://www.mail-archive.com/blank.png"; google_ad_width = 160; google_ad_height = 600; google_ad_format = "160x600_as"; google_ad_channel = "8427791634"; google_color_border = "FF"; google_color_bg = "FF"; google_color_link = "006792"; google_color_url = "006792"; google_color_text = "00"; //--> Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Vincent Untz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Willie Walker Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Matteo Settenvini Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Alberto Ruiz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Vincent Untz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Ray Strode Re: [gdm-list] GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Vincent Untz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Patryk Zawadzki Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Kjartan Maraas Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Reply via email to <!-- google_ad_client = "pub-7266757337600734"; google_alternate_ad_url = "http://www.mail-archive.com/blank.png"; google_ad_width = 160; google_ad_height = 600; google_ad_format = "160x600_as"; google_ad_channel = "8427791634"; google_color_border = "FF"; google_color_bg = "FFFFFF"; google_color_link = "006792"; google_color_url = "006792"; google_color_text = "000000"; //--> Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Vincent Untz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Willie Walker Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Matteo Settenvini Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Alberto Ruiz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Vincent Untz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Ray Strode Re: [gdm-list] GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM
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-> Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? desktop-devel-list -- Thread -- -- Date -- <!-- google_ad_client = "pub-7266757337600734"; google_alternate_ad_url = "http://www.mail-archive.com/blank.png"; google_ad_width = 160; google_ad_height = 600; google_ad_format = "160x600_as"; google_ad_channel = "8427791634"; google_color_border = "FF"; google_color_bg = "FF"; google_color_link = "006792"; google_color_url = "006792"; google_color_text = "000000"; //--> Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Patryk Zawadzki Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Andre Klapper Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Germán Póo-Caamaño Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Diego Escalante Urrelo Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Mathias Hasselmann Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Mathias Hasselmann Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Vincent Untz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Willie Walker Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Matteo Settenvini Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Alberto Ruiz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Vincent Untz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Ray Strode Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Patryk Zawadzki Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Kjartan Maraas Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Reply via email to <!-- google_ad_client = "pub-7266757337600734"; google_alternate_ad_url = "http://www.mail-archive.com/blank.png"; google_ad_width = 160; google_ad_height = 600; google_ad_format = "160x600_as"; google_ad_channel = "8427791634"; google_color_border = "FFFFFF"; google_color_bg = "FF"; google_color_link = "006792"; google_color_url = "006792"; google_color_text = "00"; //--> Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Patryk Zawadzki Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Patryk Zawadzki Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Andre Klapper Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Diego Escalante Urrelo Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Mathias Hasselmann Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Mathias Hasselmann Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Vincent Untz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Willie Walker Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Matteo Settenvini Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Alberto Ruiz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Vincent Untz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Ray Strode Re: [gdm-list] GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Patryk Zawadzki Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Kjartan Maraas Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Reply via email to <!-- google_ad_client = "pub-7266757337600734"; google_alternate_ad_url = "http://www.mail-archive.com/blank.png"; google_ad_width = 160; google_ad_height = 600; google_ad_format = "160x600_as"; google_ad_channel = "8427791634"; google_color_border = "FF"; google_color_bg = "FF"; google_color_link = "006792"; google_color_url = "006792"; google_color_text = "00"; //--> Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Patryk Zawadzki Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Patryk Zawadzki Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Andre Klapper Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Diego Escalante Urrelo Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Mathias Hasselmann Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Mathias Hasselmann Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Vincent Untz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Willie Walker Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Matteo Settenvini Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Alberto Ruiz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Vincent Untz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Ray Strode Re: [gdm-list] GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Vincent Untz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Patryk Zawadzki Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Kjartan Maraas Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Camero
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-> Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? desktop-devel-list -- Thread -- -- Date -- <!-- google_ad_client = "pub-7266757337600734"; google_alternate_ad_url = "http://www.mail-archive.com/blank.png"; google_ad_width = 160; google_ad_height = 600; google_ad_format = "160x600_as"; google_ad_channel = "8427791634"; google_color_border = "FF"; google_color_bg = "FF"; google_color_link = "006792"; google_color_url = "006792"; google_color_text = "000000"; //--> Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Andre Klapper Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Germán Póo-Caamaño Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Diego Escalante Urrelo Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Mathias Hasselmann Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Mathias Hasselmann Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Vincent Untz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Willie Walker Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Matteo Settenvini Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Alberto Ruiz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Vincent Untz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Ray Strode Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Patryk Zawadzki Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Kjartan Maraas Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Reply via email to <!-- google_ad_client = "pub-7266757337600734"; google_alternate_ad_url = "http://www.mail-archive.com/blank.png"; google_ad_width = 160; google_ad_height = 600; google_ad_format = "160x600_as"; google_ad_channel = "8427791634"; google_color_border = "FF"; google_color_bg = "FF"; google_color_link = "006792"; google_color_url = "006792"; google_color_text = "000000"; //--> Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Patryk Zawadzki Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Andre Klapper Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Diego Escalante Urrelo Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Mathias Hasselmann Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Mathias Hasselmann Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Vincent Untz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Willie Walker Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Matteo Settenvini Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Alberto Ruiz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Vincent Untz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Ray Strode Re: [gdm-list] GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Patryk Zawadzki Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Kjartan Maraas Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Reply via email to <!-- google_ad_client = "pub-7266757337600734"; google_alternate_ad_url = "http://www.mail-archive.com/blank.png"; google_ad_width = 160; google_ad_height = 600; google_ad_format = "160x600_as"; google_ad_channel = "8427791634"; google_color_border = "FF"; google_color_bg = "FF"; google_color_link = "006792"; google_color_url = "006792"; google_color_text = "00"; //--> Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Patryk Zawadzki Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Andre Klapper Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Diego Escalante Urrelo Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Mathias Hasselmann Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Mathias Hasselmann Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Vincent Untz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Willie Walker Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Matteo Settenvini Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Alberto Ruiz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Vincent Untz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Ray Strode Re: [gdm-list] GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Vincent Untz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Patryk Zawadzki Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Kjartan Maraas Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Reply via email to <!-- google_ad_client = "pub-7266757337600734"; google_alternate_ad_url = "http://www.
Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24?
-> Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? desktop-devel-list -- Thread -- -- Date -- <!-- google_ad_client = "pub-7266757337600734"; google_alternate_ad_url = "http://www.mail-archive.com/blank.png"; google_ad_width = 160; google_ad_height = 600; google_ad_format = "160x600_as"; google_ad_channel = "8427791634"; google_color_border = "FF"; google_color_bg = "FF"; google_color_link = "006792"; google_color_url = "006792"; google_color_text = "00"; //--> Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Germán Póo-Caamaño Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Diego Escalante Urrelo Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Mathias Hasselmann Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Mathias Hasselmann Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Vincent Untz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Willie Walker Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Matteo Settenvini Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Alberto Ruiz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Vincent Untz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Ray Strode Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Patryk Zawadzki Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Kjartan Maraas Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Reply via email to <!-- google_ad_client = "pub-7266757337600734"; google_alternate_ad_url = "http://www.mail-archive.com/blank.png"; google_ad_width = 160; google_ad_height = 600; google_ad_format = "160x600_as"; google_ad_channel = "8427791634"; google_color_border = "FFFFFF"; google_color_bg = "FF"; google_color_link = "006792"; google_color_url = "006792"; google_color_text = "00"; //--> Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Andre Klapper Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Diego Escalante Urrelo Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Mathias Hasselmann Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Mathias Hasselmann Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Vincent Untz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Willie Walker Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Matteo Settenvini Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Alberto Ruiz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Vincent Untz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Ray Strode Re: [gdm-list] GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Patryk Zawadzki Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Kjartan Maraas Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Reply via email to <!-- google_ad_client = "pub-7266757337600734"; google_alternate_ad_url = "http://www.mail-archive.com/blank.png"; google_ad_width = 160; google_ad_height = 600; google_ad_format = "160x600_as"; google_ad_channel = "8427791634"; google_color_border = "FF"; google_color_bg = "FFFFFF"; google_color_link = "006792"; google_color_url = "006792"; google_color_text = "00"; //--> Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Andre Klapper Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Diego Escalante Urrelo Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Mathias Hasselmann Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Mathias Hasselmann Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Vincent Untz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Willie Walker Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Matteo Settenvini Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Alberto Ruiz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Vincent Untz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Ray Strode Re: [gdm-list] GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Vincent Untz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Patryk Zawadzki Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Kjartan Maraas Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Reply via email to <!-- google_ad_client = "pub-7266757337600734"; google_alternate_ad_url = "http://www.mail-archive.com/blank.png"; google_ad_width = 160; google_ad_height = 600; google_ad_format = "160x600_as"; google_ad_channel = "84277916
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-> Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? desktop-devel-list -- Thread -- -- Date -- <!-- google_ad_client = "pub-7266757337600734"; google_alternate_ad_url = "http://www.mail-archive.com/blank.png"; google_ad_width = 160; google_ad_height = 600; google_ad_format = "160x600_as"; google_ad_channel = "8427791634"; google_color_border = "FF"; google_color_bg = "FF"; google_color_link = "006792"; google_color_url = "006792"; google_color_text = "00"; //--> Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Germán Póo-Caamaño Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Diego Escalante Urrelo Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Mathias Hasselmann Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Mathias Hasselmann Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Vincent Untz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Willie Walker Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Matteo Settenvini Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Alberto Ruiz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Vincent Untz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Ray Strode Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Patryk Zawadzki Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Kjartan Maraas Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Reply via email to <!-- google_ad_client = "pub-7266757337600734"; google_alternate_ad_url = "http://www.mail-archive.com/blank.png"; google_ad_width = 160; google_ad_height = 600; google_ad_format = "160x600_as"; google_ad_channel = "8427791634"; google_color_border = "FF"; google_color_bg = "FF"; google_color_link = "006792"; google_color_url = "006792"; google_color_text = "00"; //--> Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Diego Escalante Urrelo Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Mathias Hasselmann Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Mathias Hasselmann Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Vincent Untz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Willie Walker Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Matteo Settenvini Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Alberto Ruiz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Vincent Untz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Ray Strode Re: [gdm-list] GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Patryk Zawadzki Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Kjartan Maraas Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Reply via email to <!-- google_ad_client = "pub-7266757337600734"; google_alternate_ad_url = "http://www.mail-archive.com/blank.png"; google_ad_width = 160; google_ad_height = 600; google_ad_format = "160x600_as"; google_ad_channel = "8427791634"; google_color_border = "FF"; google_color_bg = "FF"; google_color_link = "006792"; google_color_url = "006792"; google_color_text = "00"; //--> Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Diego Escalante Urrelo Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Mathias Hasselmann Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Mathias Hasselmann Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Vincent Untz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Willie Walker Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Matteo Settenvini Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Alberto Ruiz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Vincent Untz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Ray Strode Re: [gdm-list] GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Vincent Untz Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Patryk Zawadzki Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Kjartan Maraas Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24? Brian Cameron Reply via email to <!-- google_ad_client = "pub-7266757337600734"; google_alternate_ad_url = "http://www.mail-archive.com/blank.png"; google_ad_width = 160; google_ad_height = 600; google_ad_format = "160x600_as"; google_ad_channel = "8427791634"; google_color_border = "FF"; google_color_bg = "FFFFFF"; google_color_link = "006792"; google_color_url = "006792&quo
