Re: [DISCUSS] Fwd: Re: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 29/09/2015 RA Stehmann wrote:

On 28.09.2015 23:08, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

So you think it's better not to apply (additionally) as OpenOffice? We
don't have any assurance that the ASF will be granted a stand, and
OpenOffice has always been granted one for years.

Before your posting, I've no doubts, that Apache will get a booth at
FOSDEM, if they ask for it. Especially, if they say, they will come with
Apache OpenOffice.


Time passed and it seems today (Friday) is the last day for proposing a 
stand/booth. As things stand now, with no information at all, probably 
it would make sense to submit a quick request on behalf of OpenOffice 
saying that we would accept (and we recommend!) that the request is 
merged with the Apache one (I mean, the one reportedly sent by Daniel), 
and that Apache can get adequate table space for the merged booth, on 
the ground floor.


I'm not going to submit it; I'm leaving this to Michael for 
consideration. Of course, if we already know that Daniel's request will 
be accepted, there is no reason for submitting this "extra" request.


Regards,
  Andrea.

Re: [DISCUSS] Fwd: Re: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 06/10/2015 Andrea Pescetti wrote:

I'm going to submit a proposal for an ODF Editors devroom too, similar
to http://s.apache.org/ved (the one we sent last year).


This was sent yesterday. I didn't CC the list since submissions now 
happen through a web form, but content is not much different from the 
2015 submission linked above.


Regards,
  Andrea.

Re: [DISCUSS] Fwd: Re: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation

[Andrea Pescetti]

Roman Shaposhnik wrote:

just wanted to let you guys know that I've just submitted
a proposal for Big Data and Data Science devroom for
FOSDEM.


Good!


Not sure how to increase our chances of being accepted,
but would love any feedback on that.


Both booths/stands and devrooms are accepted (or rejected) directly by 
the FOSDEM organizers, with (as far as I know) no way to influence the 
decision. But organizers prefer to see devrooms that focus on one topic 
rather than one software and that gather similar projects.


Acceptance of a stand and/or a devroom for the same project are 
independent. So a stand for OpenOffice is unrelated to a devroom for ODF 
Editors. And a stand for Apache is unrelated to a devroom for Big Data 
projects. And different Apache projects can show up in different 
devrooms since they apply to different areas.


I'm going to submit a proposal for an ODF Editors devroom too, similar 
to http://s.apache.org/ved (the one we sent last year).


Regards,
  Andrea.

Re: [DISCUSS] Fwd: Re: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation

[Roman Shaposhnik]

Hi!

just wanted to let you guys know that I've just submitted
a proposal for Big Data and Data Science devroom for
FOSDEM. ASF is the org that can make it a really successfull
DEVROOM and last year the feedback was asking for
something like this big time.

Not sure how to increase our chances of being accepted,
but would love any feedback on that.

Thanks,
Roman.

On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 10:59 AM, RA Stehmann
 wrote:
> On 28.09.2015 23:08, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>> On 28/09/2015 RA Stehmann wrote:
>>> as promised Mechtilde and I will join the Apache booth (stand) team at
>>> FOSDEM 2016.
>>
>> So you think it's better not to apply (additionally) as OpenOffice? We
>> don't have any assurance that the ASF will be granted a stand, and
>> OpenOffice has always been granted one for years.
>
> Before your posting, I've no doubts, that Apache will get a booth at
> FOSDEM, if they ask for it. Especially, if they say, they will come with
> Apache OpenOffice.
>
> Apache is one of the major (and greatest ;-) ) projects in the Free
> Software world.
>
>>
>>> It's a great pleasure for us, that the greater Apache Community joins
>>> FOSDEM with a booth.
>>
>> I was assuming/understanding that we would have sent both the OpenOffice
>> request (highly likely to be approved; but less important) and the ASF
>> request (new, so less likely; but more important). And that, if both
>> were approved, we would merge the tables, or if one was approved we
>> would share the table.
>
> We might get a problem, if both booths are granted, but in different
> places. It isn't a proper behavior to quit one of the booths in that case.
>
>>
>> So no doubt we would all be together, in any case; I thought we would
>> try and maximize the chance of getting a presence.
>>
>> It appears Daniel has already sent a request on behalf on the ASF
>> (deadline is in November) but I haven't seen it at
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/FOSDEM+2016 or on the
>> lists, so I have no idea about the contents. I just want to be sure that
>> the ASF at large, and OpenOffice as part of it, get a presence under
>> whatever name; and that we maximize our chances to be at FOSDEM.
>>
>
> Perhaps we should make a conditional request. But the best thing would
> be, that Daniel ask the orga sufficiently early before the deadline.
> They are all nice human beings.
>
> Regards
> Michael
>
>
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Fwd: Re: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation

[RA Stehmann]

On 28.09.2015 23:08, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> On 28/09/2015 RA Stehmann wrote:
>> as promised Mechtilde and I will join the Apache booth (stand) team at
>> FOSDEM 2016.
> 
> So you think it's better not to apply (additionally) as OpenOffice? We
> don't have any assurance that the ASF will be granted a stand, and
> OpenOffice has always been granted one for years.

Before your posting, I've no doubts, that Apache will get a booth at
FOSDEM, if they ask for it. Especially, if they say, they will come with
Apache OpenOffice.

Apache is one of the major (and greatest ;-) ) projects in the Free
Software world.

> 
>> It's a great pleasure for us, that the greater Apache Community joins
>> FOSDEM with a booth.
> 
> I was assuming/understanding that we would have sent both the OpenOffice
> request (highly likely to be approved; but less important) and the ASF
> request (new, so less likely; but more important). And that, if both
> were approved, we would merge the tables, or if one was approved we
> would share the table.

We might get a problem, if both booths are granted, but in different
places. It isn't a proper behavior to quit one of the booths in that case.

> 
> So no doubt we would all be together, in any case; I thought we would
> try and maximize the chance of getting a presence.
> 
> It appears Daniel has already sent a request on behalf on the ASF
> (deadline is in November) but I haven't seen it at
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/FOSDEM+2016 or on the
> lists, so I have no idea about the contents. I just want to be sure that
> the ASF at large, and OpenOffice as part of it, get a presence under
> whatever name; and that we maximize our chances to be at FOSDEM.
> 

Perhaps we should make a conditional request. But the best thing would
be, that Daniel ask the orga sufficiently early before the deadline.
They are all nice human beings.

Regards
Michael





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Re: [DISCUSS] Fwd: Re: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 28/09/2015 RA Stehmann wrote:

as promised Mechtilde and I will join the Apache booth (stand) team at
FOSDEM 2016.


So you think it's better not to apply (additionally) as OpenOffice? We 
don't have any assurance that the ASF will be granted a stand, and 
OpenOffice has always been granted one for years.



It's a great pleasure for us, that the greater Apache Community joins
FOSDEM with a booth.


I was assuming/understanding that we would have sent both the OpenOffice 
request (highly likely to be approved; but less important) and the ASF 
request (new, so less likely; but more important). And that, if both 
were approved, we would merge the tables, or if one was approved we 
would share the table.


So no doubt we would all be together, in any case; I thought we would 
try and maximize the chance of getting a presence.


It appears Daniel has already sent a request on behalf on the ASF 
(deadline is in November) but I haven't seen it at 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/FOSDEM+2016 or on the 
lists, so I have no idea about the contents. I just want to be sure that 
the ASF at large, and OpenOffice as part of it, get a presence under 
whatever name; and that we maximize our chances to be at FOSDEM.


Regards,
  Andrea.

Re: [DISCUSS] Fwd: Re: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation

[RA Stehmann]

Hello,

as promised Mechtilde and I will join the Apache booth (stand) team at
FOSDEM 2016.

It's a great pleasure for us, that the greater Apache Community joins
FOSDEM with a booth.

Kind regards
Michael



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Re: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation

[Roman Shaposhnik]

On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Daniel Gruno  wrote:
> On 09/25/2015 09:11 AM, Sharan Foga wrote:
>> Hi All
>>
>> I've just seen this call for participation at FOSDEM and I know we
>> talked about getting more of an Apache presence there.
>>
>> https://fosdem.org/2016/news/2015-09-24-call-for-participation/
>
> Indeedy, I was notified by FOSDEM staff about this, and will note that
> the ASF has formally requested a stand at FOSDEM 2016.

Awesome! Is there any chance to have FOSDEM guys CC comdev
to make it easier for everybody to follow.

> Time will tell what sort of stand we'll get (how big etc), but we should
> plan ahead and _assume_ we'll get two tables (might get one, might get
> three, but let's assume two).
>
> This will require 3-4 volunteers at most times (not to speak of endless
> amounts of swag to give away), so I would imagine we'd need at least
> double that in available people, so as to do it in shifts.

I've volunteered for the booth. And looking at the # of folks who volunteered
as well I think we may be covered actually.

> Depending on the number of projects that are interested in a presence at
> FOSDEM, we'll likely do a rotation, so that each project get N hours of
> fame at the stand. FOSDEM has notified us that they are really limited
> on space this time around, due to the huge interest in this from FOSS
> communities, so if we can help them by rotating a bit, that would work
> out for everyone. Having been to previous FOSDEMs, I can also say with
> some certainty, that you won't risk getting the "boring time slot", as
> the stands are pretty much always crowded.

FYI: I will also be trying to organized Bigdata/Data science dev. room. And
you all know what projects are the majority in the category ;-)

Thanks,
Roman.

Re: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 25/09/2015 Daniel Gruno wrote:

On 09/25/2015 09:11 AM, Sharan Foga wrote:

I've just seen this call for participation at FOSDEM and I know we
talked about getting more of an Apache presence there.
https://fosdem.org/2016/news/2015-09-24-call-for-participation/

Indeedy, I was notified by FOSDEM staff about this, and will note that
the ASF has formally requested a stand at FOSDEM 2016.


That was fast! I had committed to inform this list when I would see  the 
calls, but you were faster. Deadline is 13 November but it does not 
matter if you already applied.



Depending on the number of projects that are interested in a presence at
FOSDEM, we'll likely do a rotation, so that each project get N hours


OpenOffice has traditionally had an own stand/booth at FOSDEM and, as 
clarified since the beginning of this thread, it may ask for one 
independently, as it has always done. That said, if both stands are 
granted we might ask to have them placed next to each other so as to 
share space more effectively.


Regards,
  Andrea.

RE: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation

[Ross Gardler]

Thank you Daniel.

-Original Message-
From: Daniel Gruno [mailto:humbed...@apache.org] 
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 12:43 AM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Subject: Re: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation

On 09/25/2015 09:11 AM, Sharan Foga wrote:
> Hi All
> 
> I've just seen this call for participation at FOSDEM and I know we 
> talked about getting more of an Apache presence there.
> 
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2ffosde
> m.org%2f2016%2fnews%2f2015-09-24-call-for-participation%2f=01%7c0
> 1%7cRoss.Gardler%40microsoft.com%7c73e0bcd89e0c4f4cda1808d2c57d051c%7c
> 72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1=oIJwr0NoDWii2FwjznxG50y4uD%
> 2fQpDlqmSrWoCto%2bEQ%3d

Indeedy, I was notified by FOSDEM staff about this, and will note that the ASF 
has formally requested a stand at FOSDEM 2016.

Time will tell what sort of stand we'll get (how big etc), but we should plan 
ahead and _assume_ we'll get two tables (might get one, might get three, but 
let's assume two).

This will require 3-4 volunteers at most times (not to speak of endless amounts 
of swag to give away), so I would imagine we'd need at least double that in 
available people, so as to do it in shifts.

Depending on the number of projects that are interested in a presence at 
FOSDEM, we'll likely do a rotation, so that each project get N hours of fame at 
the stand. FOSDEM has notified us that they are really limited on space this 
time around, due to the huge interest in this from FOSS communities, so if we 
can help them by rotating a bit, that would work out for everyone. Having been 
to previous FOSDEMs, I can also say with some certainty, that you won't risk 
getting the "boring time slot", as the stands are pretty much always crowded.

With regards,
Daniel.

> 
> Earlier this year I think Jan setup a wiki page setup about it and 
> called for volunteers.
> 
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fcwiki
> .apache.org%2fconfluence%2fdisplay%2fCOMDEV%2fFOSDEM%2b2016=01%7c
> 01%7cRoss.Gardler%40microsoft.com%7c73e0bcd89e0c4f4cda1808d2c57d051c%7
> c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1=JF4cZeIaroWBdZ1ZkIaspbMMK8
> lbLctL6rB9tthZ1Nk%3d
> 
> I'd like to help so please can someone grant me karma to the Comdev 
> cwiki? (username is sharan)
> 
> Thanks
> Sharan
> 

Re: FOSDEM 2016

[jan i]

On 4 February 2015 at 19:57, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org wrote:

 On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 6:37 AM, Rich Bowen rbo...@rcbowen.com wrote:
  However, I think we can do better in 2016. I want to see Apache have a
 table
  at FOSDEM 2016, representing more than just one project, with proper
 respect
  to the historical position of AOO at the event - ie, not just usurping
 their
  place there.

 A huge +1 there. Any opportunity where you get to tap into attention of
 5000+
 developers is something we can't miss.

  * Table Staff: I figure it takes at least 6 people to staff a FOSDEM
 table
  if you don't want to go insane. Daniel and Jan have said that they will
  staff the table. So we're 1/3 of the way there.

 I can volunteer for part time as well. It is very likely that I'd have to
 split
 my time between Pivotal booth and ASF's one in 2016.

 Finally, as FYI: I'm now very actively pursuing having a
 bigdata/distributed
 systems dev room at FOSDEM 2016. Given that most of those projects
 come from ASF, hopefully we'd have ever more ASF hackers at FOSDEM
 next year.

+1 Let me know if I can help. We might also smuggle a presentation in
about ASF; about our communities and how we are different from e.g. a place
where you just revision your code.

rgds
jan i.



 Thanks,
 Roman.

Re: FOSDEM 2016

[Roman Shaposhnik]

On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 6:37 AM, Rich Bowen rbo...@rcbowen.com wrote:
 However, I think we can do better in 2016. I want to see Apache have a table
 at FOSDEM 2016, representing more than just one project, with proper respect
 to the historical position of AOO at the event - ie, not just usurping their
 place there.

A huge +1 there. Any opportunity where you get to tap into attention of 5000+
developers is something we can't miss.

 * Table Staff: I figure it takes at least 6 people to staff a FOSDEM table
 if you don't want to go insane. Daniel and Jan have said that they will
 staff the table. So we're 1/3 of the way there.

I can volunteer for part time as well. It is very likely that I'd have to split
my time between Pivotal booth and ASF's one in 2016.

Finally, as FYI: I'm now very actively pursuing having a bigdata/distributed
systems dev room at FOSDEM 2016. Given that most of those projects
come from ASF, hopefully we'd have ever more ASF hackers at FOSDEM
next year.

Thanks,
Roman.

Re: FOSDEM 2016

[Andrea Pescetti]

Rich Bowen wrote:

For those that weren't there, you should know that OpenOffice had a
presence there (as they always have), staffed by volunteers, with some
swag provided by the ASF, and other swag provided by the OpenOffice
community, out of their own pockets. They did an *awesome* job of
representing both AOO and the ASF as a whole.


Thanks. The feather-decorated Ask me! badges helped a lot to get 
questions about the ASF.



However, I think we can do better in 2016. I want to see Apache have a
table at FOSDEM 2016, representing more than just one project, with
proper respect to the historical position of AOO at the event - ie, not
just usurping their place there.


Suggest a main track talk. There are plenty of good Apache stories to 
tell. I usually have a look at the FOSDEM site in early September for 
deadlines. I recommend that you do the same.



* We would need to either have a separate table from AOO, or double the
size of the existing table, so that we don't eclipse their place there.
They've put *years* into developing a presence at FOSDEM, and we want to
respect that.


The OpenOffice table is double (with respect to the one you saw). But 
our volunteers, due to good relationships with the neighboring Perl 
table, rearranged them so that instead of 2 OpenOffice + 2 Perl we had 1 
OpenOffice (which was enough) + 3 Perl (which was barely enough for the 
huge amount of stuff they carry, piles of books and even a life-size 
camel last year).



* Table Staff: I figure it takes at least 6 people to staff a FOSDEM
table if you don't want to go insane. Daniel and Jan have said that they
will staff the table. So we're 1/3 of the way there. I would probably be
available for some time, but, like many of the folks that might
otherwise be willing to do time, I have work duties as well.


I have no work duties at FOSDEM (meaning, I attend it as a pure 
volunteer) but I have no time either. And I don't know if I will attend 
next year.



* We need printed materials, as well as stickers/pins/whatever.


Not sure about this. At FOSDEM most people are content with stickers, 
pins and talks. We prepared lots of OpenOffice tri-folds for events but 
not many of them are used at FOSDEM.



* A tshirt would be nice


Yes!


So, if you are interested in being part of this effort, please speak up.


I might be at FOSDEM 2016 and/or I might be available to share my 
knowledge from my experience there. Don't count on me too much for 
staffing the table though, I'm always very busy at FOSDEM.


Regards,
  Andrea.

Re: FOSDEM 2016

[jan i]

On Wednesday, February 4, 2015, Pierre Smits pierre.sm...@gmail.com wrote:

 Had I known upfront it was held in Brussels and the last few days (yes, I
 had to look it up), I would have popped over as it is only an hour's drive
 away.

 Where will the next be held and when?


same place and time next year.

rgds
jan i


 Best regards,

 Pierre Smits

 *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com*
 Services  Solutions for Cloud-
 Based Manufacturing, Professional
 Services and Retail  Trade
 http://www.orrtiz.com

 On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 3:37 PM, Rich Bowen rbo...@rcbowen.com
 javascript:; wrote:

  I just came back from FOSDEM. As always, it was a madhouse, but there was
  some time for sane conversation.
 
  For those that weren't there, you should know that OpenOffice had a
  presence there (as they always have), staffed by volunteers, with some
 swag
  provided by the ASF, and other swag provided by the OpenOffice community,
  out of their own pockets. They did an *awesome* job of representing both
  AOO and the ASF as a whole.
 
  However, I think we can do better in 2016. I want to see Apache have a
  table at FOSDEM 2016, representing more than just one project, with
 proper
  respect to the historical position of AOO at the event - ie, not just
  usurping their place there.
 
  Here are some thoughts from talking with folks (mostly Jan Iversen and
  Daniel Gruno) at FOSDEM.
 
  * We would need to either have a separate table from AOO, or double the
  size of the existing table, so that we don't eclipse their place there.
  They've put *years* into developing a presence at FOSDEM, and we want to
  respect that.
 
  * Table Staff: I figure it takes at least 6 people to staff a FOSDEM
 table
  if you don't want to go insane. Daniel and Jan have said that they will
  staff the table. So we're 1/3 of the way there. I would probably be
  available for some time, but, like many of the folks that might otherwise
  be willing to do time, I have work duties as well. Two people need to be
  there at all times, and people should be willing to commit to specific
 time
  windows. It would also be cool to have times scheduled for specific
  projects. Like, say, 11:00 to 12:00 is Cordova Hour, and will have two
  representatives of the project present to answer questions and give
 demos.
 
  * We need printed materials, as well as stickers/pins/whatever. Printed
  materials should cover the ASF as a whole, as well as highlighting a
  variety of projects. Individual projects who wish to be represented
 should
  be encouraged to provide materials that we can print, but we don't want
 to
  have too many projects with printed materials - that would be
 overwhelming.
  We need to provide a template (in AOO, of course) that a project can fill
  in with their project-specific content to produce a consistent one-page,
 or
  tri-fold, or whatever, that could be printed for the event. We don't want
  twenty different-looking documents. We are trying to present a brand.
  (Right, Shane?)
 
  * A tshirt would be nice - the word-cloud of project names we discussed a
  year or two ago would be cool. There's several thousand people in
  attendance, and this is an opportunity to get the Foundation's name in
  front of a really important, and hugely diverse, audience. So having a
  cool, eye-catching tshirt is a cheap, easy way to do that.
 
  So, if you are interested in being part of this effort, please speak up.
  This won't happen if I'm in charge of it, but I wanted to throw it out
  there and see if it catches anyone. I presume that Jan will take the lead
  on this, but I'm the one that took notes. I'm also aware that we tend to
  have a lot of passion about this kind of thing for a moment, and then it
  fades as the event recedes into the past. But something like this takes
  time, effort, money, and grunt work to make it happen.
 
 
  --
  Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com javascript:; - @rbowen
  http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
 



-- 
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Re: FOSDEM 2016

[Rich Bowen]

On 02/04/2015 09:49 AM, Pierre Smits wrote:

Had I known upfront it was held in Brussels and the last few days (yes, I
had to look it up), I would have popped over as it is only an hour's drive
away.

Where will the next be held and when?



Always first weekend of February, always in Brussels at the ULB 
(http://www.ulb.ac.be/) It is a two day (Sat, Sun) event, but there are 
numerous events that orbit it, both before and after, both in Brussels 
and in surrounding cities, so it is a VERY high-bandwidth time to be in 
the area.


Upwards of 4000 geeks in attendance. Very community focused (as opposed 
to the corporate focus of may events like OSCON) and one of the oldest 
free software events in the world - may be the oldest. Event is free. 
And there are always lots of ASF people in attendance, although not 
usually wearing their Apache 'hats'.


--
Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon

Re: FOSDEM 2016

[sebgoa]

On Feb 4, 2015, at 4:11 PM, Rich Bowen rbo...@rcbowen.com wrote:

 
 
 On 02/04/2015 09:49 AM, Pierre Smits wrote:
 Had I known upfront it was held in Brussels and the last few days (yes, I
 had to look it up), I would have popped over as it is only an hour's drive
 away.
 
 Where will the next be held and when?
 
 
 Always first weekend of February, always in Brussels at the ULB 
 (http://www.ulb.ac.be/) It is a two day (Sat, Sun) event, but there are 
 numerous events that orbit it, both before and after, both in Brussels and in 
 surrounding cities, so it is a VERY high-bandwidth time to be in the area.
 
 Upwards of 4000 geeks in attendance. Very community focused (as opposed to 
 the corporate focus of may events like OSCON) and one of the oldest free 
 software events in the world - may be the oldest. Event is free. And there 
 are always lots of ASF people in attendance, although not usually wearing 
 their Apache 'hats'.
 

probably the best open source conference in the world. free, no corporate 
sponsorship visible. super community focused.
All rooms are packed...


 -- 
 Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
 http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon

Re: FOSDEM 2016

[Pierre Smits]

Noted!

Pierre Smits

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On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 4:02 PM, jan i j...@apache.org wrote:

 On Wednesday, February 4, 2015, Pierre Smits pierre.sm...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Had I known upfront it was held in Brussels and the last few days (yes, I
  had to look it up), I would have popped over as it is only an hour's
 drive
  away.
 
  Where will the next be held and when?


 same place and time next year.

 rgds
 jan i

 
  Best regards,
 
  Pierre Smits
 
  *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com*
  Services  Solutions for Cloud-
  Based Manufacturing, Professional
  Services and Retail  Trade
  http://www.orrtiz.com
 
  On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 3:37 PM, Rich Bowen rbo...@rcbowen.com
  javascript:; wrote:
 
   I just came back from FOSDEM. As always, it was a madhouse, but there
 was
   some time for sane conversation.
  
   For those that weren't there, you should know that OpenOffice had a
   presence there (as they always have), staffed by volunteers, with some
  swag
   provided by the ASF, and other swag provided by the OpenOffice
 community,
   out of their own pockets. They did an *awesome* job of representing
 both
   AOO and the ASF as a whole.
  
   However, I think we can do better in 2016. I want to see Apache have a
   table at FOSDEM 2016, representing more than just one project, with
  proper
   respect to the historical position of AOO at the event - ie, not just
   usurping their place there.
  
   Here are some thoughts from talking with folks (mostly Jan Iversen and
   Daniel Gruno) at FOSDEM.
  
   * We would need to either have a separate table from AOO, or double the
   size of the existing table, so that we don't eclipse their place there.
   They've put *years* into developing a presence at FOSDEM, and we want
 to
   respect that.
  
   * Table Staff: I figure it takes at least 6 people to staff a FOSDEM
  table
   if you don't want to go insane. Daniel and Jan have said that they will
   staff the table. So we're 1/3 of the way there. I would probably be
   available for some time, but, like many of the folks that might
 otherwise
   be willing to do time, I have work duties as well. Two people need to
 be
   there at all times, and people should be willing to commit to specific
  time
   windows. It would also be cool to have times scheduled for specific
   projects. Like, say, 11:00 to 12:00 is Cordova Hour, and will have two
   representatives of the project present to answer questions and give
  demos.
  
   * We need printed materials, as well as stickers/pins/whatever. Printed
   materials should cover the ASF as a whole, as well as highlighting a
   variety of projects. Individual projects who wish to be represented
  should
   be encouraged to provide materials that we can print, but we don't want
  to
   have too many projects with printed materials - that would be
  overwhelming.
   We need to provide a template (in AOO, of course) that a project can
 fill
   in with their project-specific content to produce a consistent
 one-page,
  or
   tri-fold, or whatever, that could be printed for the event. We don't
 want
   twenty different-looking documents. We are trying to present a brand.
   (Right, Shane?)
  
   * A tshirt would be nice - the word-cloud of project names we
 discussed a
   year or two ago would be cool. There's several thousand people in
   attendance, and this is an opportunity to get the Foundation's name in
   front of a really important, and hugely diverse, audience. So having a
   cool, eye-catching tshirt is a cheap, easy way to do that.
  
   So, if you are interested in being part of this effort, please speak
 up.
   This won't happen if I'm in charge of it, but I wanted to throw it out
   there and see if it catches anyone. I presume that Jan will take the
 lead
   on this, but I'm the one that took notes. I'm also aware that we tend
 to
   have a lot of passion about this kind of thing for a moment, and then
 it
   fades as the event recedes into the past. But something like this takes
   time, effort, money, and grunt work to make it happen.
  
  
   --
   Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com javascript:; - @rbowen
   http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
  
 


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Re: FOSDEM 2016

[Pierre Smits]

Had I known upfront it was held in Brussels and the last few days (yes, I
had to look it up), I would have popped over as it is only an hour's drive
away.

Where will the next be held and when?

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

*ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com*
Services  Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail  Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com

On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 3:37 PM, Rich Bowen rbo...@rcbowen.com wrote:

 I just came back from FOSDEM. As always, it was a madhouse, but there was
 some time for sane conversation.

 For those that weren't there, you should know that OpenOffice had a
 presence there (as they always have), staffed by volunteers, with some swag
 provided by the ASF, and other swag provided by the OpenOffice community,
 out of their own pockets. They did an *awesome* job of representing both
 AOO and the ASF as a whole.

 However, I think we can do better in 2016. I want to see Apache have a
 table at FOSDEM 2016, representing more than just one project, with proper
 respect to the historical position of AOO at the event - ie, not just
 usurping their place there.

 Here are some thoughts from talking with folks (mostly Jan Iversen and
 Daniel Gruno) at FOSDEM.

 * We would need to either have a separate table from AOO, or double the
 size of the existing table, so that we don't eclipse their place there.
 They've put *years* into developing a presence at FOSDEM, and we want to
 respect that.

 * Table Staff: I figure it takes at least 6 people to staff a FOSDEM table
 if you don't want to go insane. Daniel and Jan have said that they will
 staff the table. So we're 1/3 of the way there. I would probably be
 available for some time, but, like many of the folks that might otherwise
 be willing to do time, I have work duties as well. Two people need to be
 there at all times, and people should be willing to commit to specific time
 windows. It would also be cool to have times scheduled for specific
 projects. Like, say, 11:00 to 12:00 is Cordova Hour, and will have two
 representatives of the project present to answer questions and give demos.

 * We need printed materials, as well as stickers/pins/whatever. Printed
 materials should cover the ASF as a whole, as well as highlighting a
 variety of projects. Individual projects who wish to be represented should
 be encouraged to provide materials that we can print, but we don't want to
 have too many projects with printed materials - that would be overwhelming.
 We need to provide a template (in AOO, of course) that a project can fill
 in with their project-specific content to produce a consistent one-page, or
 tri-fold, or whatever, that could be printed for the event. We don't want
 twenty different-looking documents. We are trying to present a brand.
 (Right, Shane?)

 * A tshirt would be nice - the word-cloud of project names we discussed a
 year or two ago would be cool. There's several thousand people in
 attendance, and this is an opportunity to get the Foundation's name in
 front of a really important, and hugely diverse, audience. So having a
 cool, eye-catching tshirt is a cheap, easy way to do that.

 So, if you are interested in being part of this effort, please speak up.
 This won't happen if I'm in charge of it, but I wanted to throw it out
 there and see if it catches anyone. I presume that Jan will take the lead
 on this, but I'm the one that took notes. I'm also aware that we tend to
 have a lot of passion about this kind of thing for a moment, and then it
 fades as the event recedes into the past. But something like this takes
 time, effort, money, and grunt work to make it happen.


 --
 Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
 http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon

Re: FOSDEM 2016

[Pierre Smits]

Free/sponsored always goes a long way (See the list:
https://fosdem.org/2015/about/sponsors/), so it leads to value for a lot of
groups and individuals. Think recruiters, entrepreneurs, students,
independent contractors. But also the sponsors (advertisers as well).

Something the ASF could learn from? Share your input at:
http://markmail.org/message/rwk6nh2i6lavianm

Best regards:


Pierre Smits

*ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com*
Services  Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail  Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com

On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 4:11 PM, Rich Bowen rbo...@rcbowen.com wrote:



 On 02/04/2015 09:49 AM, Pierre Smits wrote:

 Had I known upfront it was held in Brussels and the last few days (yes, I
 had to look it up), I would have popped over as it is only an hour's drive
 away.

 Where will the next be held and when?



 Always first weekend of February, always in Brussels at the ULB (
 http://www.ulb.ac.be/) It is a two day (Sat, Sun) event, but there are
 numerous events that orbit it, both before and after, both in Brussels and
 in surrounding cities, so it is a VERY high-bandwidth time to be in the
 area.

 Upwards of 4000 geeks in attendance. Very community focused (as opposed to
 the corporate focus of may events like OSCON) and one of the oldest free
 software events in the world - may be the oldest. Event is free. And there
 are always lots of ASF people in attendance, although not usually wearing
 their Apache 'hats'.


 --
 Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
 http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon

Re: FOSDEM 2016

[Hadrian Zbarcea]

I'll plan to attend next year too then.

(Camel? Isn't that a trademark infringement? :) )

Hadrian


On 02/04/2015 06:27 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

Rich Bowen wrote:

For those that weren't there, you should know that OpenOffice had a
presence there (as they always have), staffed by volunteers, with some
swag provided by the ASF, and other swag provided by the OpenOffice
community, out of their own pockets. They did an *awesome* job of
representing both AOO and the ASF as a whole.


Thanks. The feather-decorated Ask me! badges helped a lot to get 
questions about the ASF.



However, I think we can do better in 2016. I want to see Apache have a
table at FOSDEM 2016, representing more than just one project, with
proper respect to the historical position of AOO at the event - ie, not
just usurping their place there.


Suggest a main track talk. There are plenty of good Apache stories to 
tell. I usually have a look at the FOSDEM site in early September for 
deadlines. I recommend that you do the same.



* We would need to either have a separate table from AOO, or double the
size of the existing table, so that we don't eclipse their place there.
They've put *years* into developing a presence at FOSDEM, and we want to
respect that.


The OpenOffice table is double (with respect to the one you saw). But 
our volunteers, due to good relationships with the neighboring Perl 
table, rearranged them so that instead of 2 OpenOffice + 2 Perl we had 
1 OpenOffice (which was enough) + 3 Perl (which was barely enough for 
the huge amount of stuff they carry, piles of books and even a 
life-size camel last year).



* Table Staff: I figure it takes at least 6 people to staff a FOSDEM
table if you don't want to go insane. Daniel and Jan have said that they
will staff the table. So we're 1/3 of the way there. I would probably be
available for some time, but, like many of the folks that might
otherwise be willing to do time, I have work duties as well.


I have no work duties at FOSDEM (meaning, I attend it as a pure 
volunteer) but I have no time either. And I don't know if I will 
attend next year.



* We need printed materials, as well as stickers/pins/whatever.


Not sure about this. At FOSDEM most people are content with stickers, 
pins and talks. We prepared lots of OpenOffice tri-folds for events 
but not many of them are used at FOSDEM.



* A tshirt would be nice


Yes!


So, if you are interested in being part of this effort, please speak up.


I might be at FOSDEM 2016 and/or I might be available to share my 
knowledge from my experience there. Don't count on me too much for 
staffing the table though, I'm always very busy at FOSDEM.


Regards,
  Andrea.