Re: [documentation-dev] Messed up DE categories

2009-11-25 Thread Nino Novak
On Wednesday 25 November 2009 08:31, Clayton wrote:
  Sorry, I just reverted your edit on DE/Documentation and now I
  don't find the mess any more. I had the impression that a whole
  bunch of pages were changed. Maybe I confused them with the (few)
  pages under the Documentation/DE tree.
 
  Next time I will investigate more accurately.
 
 :-) No worries.  Now I'm confused though...

 What's the difference between the DE/Documentation category and the
 DE/Dokumentation category?  I see in the text of DE/Dcoumentation
 that you note there is a parallel DE/Dokumentation.  Why have both? 
 It seems to be quite redundant (looking at it from the outside).

DE/Dokumentation is the standard as NL users do understand it.

DE/Documentation has been added only to follow wiki policy for 
translated (and synced) pages. The two are concurrent ATM (which is 
bad) but I don't see a solution yet, as both have advantages and if one 
wins, it's easy to change the other. 

DE/Dokumentation is kept clean and should not deliver irrelevant 
stuff, while DE/Documentation is preliminary work still. 

In order not to lose pages, DE/Documentation is located beneath 
DE/Documentation, which might cause even more confusion. Maybe this 
could be solved by revision flagging, but I don't have the time to test 
it ATM. 

 This seems to be the source of the problem after you mentioned
 using localized categories, and pointed at DE/Dokumentation, I went
 with the idea... and added a DE page to that category.

Yep, but the page belonged to the synced stuff (and contained just some 
preliminary stuff, but no valuable info). 

If you consider this a bad practice, please suggest a better one. 

Nino

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Re: [documentation-dev] Messed up DE categories

2009-11-25 Thread Clayton
 DE/Documentation has been added only to follow wiki policy for 
 translated (and synced) pages. The two are concurrent ATM (which is 
 bad) but I don't see a solution yet, as both have advantages and if one 
 wins, it's easy to change the other. 
 
 DE/Dokumentation is kept clean and should not deliver irrelevant 
 stuff, while DE/Documentation is preliminary work still. 
 
 In order not to lose pages, DE/Documentation is located beneath 
 DE/Documentation, which might cause even more confusion. Maybe this 
 could be solved by revision flagging, but I don't have the time to test 
 it ATM. 

[snip]

 Yep, but the page belonged to the synced stuff (and contained just some 
 preliminary stuff, but no valuable info). 
 
 If you consider this a bad practice, please suggest a better one. 

Ah OK.. I follow now.

I don't know if there is any good' practice for a situation like this.

Hmmm.. thinking about it... if I was doing something like this, I would
probably follow something like DE/Dokumentation/Übersetzt or something
similar.  To me I would expect that would be somewhat clearer to the
German readers than DE/Documentation for the translated docs.  Then you
could make the DE/Dokumentation/Übersetzt Category a subCategory of
DE/Dokumentation to keep the structure intact.

I don't know if that would be better or not.. just an idea that popped
into my head this morning.

C.
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OpenOffice.org Documentation Project co-lead
StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany

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Re: [documentation-dev] Messed up DE categories

2009-11-24 Thread Nino Novak
On Tuesday 24 November 2009 15:53, ccornell - OpenOffice.org wrote:
 On 11/24/09 15:37, Nino Novak wrote:
  Clayton, you changed several Categories und the DE/ Page tree. Now,
  to me all seems messed up.

 The only DE page I touched (outside of the WikiBot) was:
 http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/DE/Documentation
 How did the one change mess things up?  Are there other pages that
 are in the DE category that were changed today?

Sorry, I just reverted your edit on DE/Documentation and now I don't 
find the mess any more. I had the impression that a whole bunch of 
pages were changed. Maybe I confused them with the (few) pages under 
the Documentation/DE tree. 

Next time I will investigate more accurately.


  Could you explain the rationale behind your changes?

 Ummm.. cleaning up:
 http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:Documentation

ok - I don't find the problematic pages at the moment. Maybe they will 
re-emerge one day, then I'll ask again.

Sorry for confusion. 

Nino

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Re: [documentation-dev] Messed up DE categories

2009-11-24 Thread Clayton
 Sorry, I just reverted your edit on DE/Documentation and now I don't 
 find the mess any more. I had the impression that a whole bunch of 
 pages were changed. Maybe I confused them with the (few) pages under 
 the Documentation/DE tree. 
 
 Next time I will investigate more accurately.

:-) No worries.  Now I'm confused though...

What's the difference between the DE/Documentation category and the
DE/Dokumentation category?  I see in the text of DE/Dcoumentation that
you note there is a parallel DE/Dokumentation.  Why have both?  It seems
to be quite redundant (looking at it from the outside).

This seems to be the source of the problem after you mentioned using
localized categories, and pointed at DE/Dokumentation, I went with the
idea... and added a DE page to that category.

C.
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OpenOffice.org Documentation Project co-lead
StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany

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