Re: Draft TourDeFlex announcement

2014-08-23 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi,

 We definitely want it to look good, but I would expect folks will find
 lots of stuff when they start poking around, so I wouldn't spend too much
 time on it.  IMO, if a problem is found, it would be fine to modify the
 repo, make a local build, and drop new files on the website.

Really? That would be releasing unreleased software in my books and a bit no-no 
under Apache rules. While we don't vote on and release the web site content but 
this content come from releasable software and is code so I really don't think 
we can do that.

It's really not too hard to call a vote on this, and it's relatively easy to 
compile and test, lets actually try and follow the Apache Way here. Small 
gradual improvement and release as often as we can.

 And/Or, if you want to be really bold, we could set up Jenkins to deploy a
 nightly build to the site. 
--1 to that, procedure aside, we don't want to be publishing potentially very 
broken stuff to the web site. And given the number of times Jenkins seems to 
stuff up, it seem very risky to me.

Thanks,
Justin

Re: Git merge issue in Flex utilities

2014-08-23 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi,

 Agreed, and so, lesson learned: this is why we do need to cut release
 branches even if there isn't much going on in develop branch.  Or would
 the release branch also contain these blazeDS and the merge would have
 tired to merge them?
A release branch would of been of little help here. The issue is that we have 
several projects in a git repo each under their own directory and git prefers 
one project per repo.

Justin

Re: Draft TourDeFlex announcement

2014-08-23 Thread Alex Harui


On 8/22/14 11:12 PM, Justin Mclean jus...@classsoftware.com wrote:

Hi,

 We definitely want it to look good, but I would expect folks will find
 lots of stuff when they start poking around, so I wouldn't spend too
much
 time on it.  IMO, if a problem is found, it would be fine to modify the
 repo, make a local build, and drop new files on the website.

Really? That would be releasing unreleased software in my books and a bit
no-no under Apache rules. While we don't vote on and release the web site
content but this content come from releasable software and is code so I
really don't think we can do that.
Might be a good question for general@incubator.  Mind if I ask there?
It's an interesting case.  If we were to put any other app on flex.a.o, we
wouldn't be making source code available for the general public, but I
suppose one could argue that with TDF, at least the example source is
being made available, although not as a package.



It's really not too hard to call a vote on this, and it's relatively easy
to compile and test, lets actually try and follow the Apache Way here.
Small gradual improvement and release as often as we can.
I'm all for faster release cycles.  I think it is 30 minutes minimum to
validate the TDF RC.  Given the potentially high traffic and profile TDF
might get, we might be tempted to immediately fix any problem reported.
Doing daily releases would be a little too fast for me.



 And/Or, if you want to be really bold, we could set up Jenkins to
deploy a
 nightly build to the site.
--1 to that, procedure aside, we don't want to be publishing potentially
very broken stuff to the web site. And given the number of times Jenkins
seems to stuff up, it seem very risky to me.
Only successful builds would get pushed.

Anyway, we'll see what others think.

-Alex



Re: Git merge issue in Flex utilities

2014-08-23 Thread Alex Harui


On 8/22/14 11:15 PM, Justin Mclean jus...@classsoftware.com wrote:

Hi,

 Agreed, and so, lesson learned: this is why we do need to cut release
 branches even if there isn't much going on in develop branch.  Or would
 the release branch also contain these blazeDS and the merge would have
 tired to merge them?
A release branch would of been of little help here. The issue is that we
have several projects in a git repo each under their own directory and
git prefers one project per repo.
Should we ask for more repos?  Or maybe just one where new donations go
until released?

-Alex



Re: Draft TourDeFlex announcement

2014-08-23 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi,

 Might be a good question for general@incubator.  Mind if I ask there?
Ask away.  But I think we should set a good example here and not try and get 
around the rules.

 I'm all for faster release cycles.  I think it is 30 minutes minimum to
 validate the TDF RC.
It not really that complex to validate it IMO. And if we release often there 
well be less changes between versions and as it really multiple small 
applications you have a good idea of which ones you need to look at and which 
you can ignore.

 Given the potentially high traffic and profile TDF
 might get, we might be tempted to immediately fix any problem reported.
There is no need to fix every issue immediately, we just need to acknowledge 
the issue (like in JIRA for instance), hopefully someone will fix it, and it 
can be released when we make the next release. Exactly the same situation as 
the SDK, it's not like that is 100% bug free (or we would have no open JIRAs)

 Doing daily releases would be a little too fast for me.
I don't think we need daily releases and voting periods will overlap probably 
making it very confusing. But if enough people show interest and contribute 
examples I could see a release a month.

 Only successful builds would get pushed.
Which can still be non functioning, should we ship everything just because it 
compiles?

Thanks,
Justin

Re: Draft TourDeFlex announcement

2014-08-23 Thread OmPrakash Muppirala
We had a big discussion about this when we released the first version of
the Installer badge, installer config xml, etc. which goes on the website
as well.  You both might want to refresh on that thread before taking it to
general@i.a.o.

In the meantime, I have couple of spare hours tonight and I want to make it
productive.  I am going to go with the RC3 bits to avoid any further
arguments.

Thanks,
Om


On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 11:47 PM, Justin Mclean jus...@classsoftware.com
wrote:

 Hi,

  Might be a good question for general@incubator.  Mind if I ask there?
 Ask away.  But I think we should set a good example here and not try and
 get around the rules.

  I'm all for faster release cycles.  I think it is 30 minutes minimum to
  validate the TDF RC.
 It not really that complex to validate it IMO. And if we release often
 there well be less changes between versions and as it really multiple small
 applications you have a good idea of which ones you need to look at and
 which you can ignore.

  Given the potentially high traffic and profile TDF
  might get, we might be tempted to immediately fix any problem reported.
 There is no need to fix every issue immediately, we just need to
 acknowledge the issue (like in JIRA for instance), hopefully someone will
 fix it, and it can be released when we make the next release. Exactly the
 same situation as the SDK, it's not like that is 100% bug free (or we would
 have no open JIRAs)

  Doing daily releases would be a little too fast for me.
 I don't think we need daily releases and voting periods will overlap
 probably making it very confusing. But if enough people show interest and
 contribute examples I could see a release a month.

  Only successful builds would get pushed.
 Which can still be non functioning, should we ship everything just because
 it compiles?

 Thanks,
 Justin


Falcon build generating maven artifacts

2014-08-23 Thread Christofer Dutz
Hi,


so I just committed my changes to the build.xml and download.xml. the current 
version in the dev branch now has a maven-artifact target that additionally 
installs some jars to your local maven repo after finishing the build. 
Unfortunateley I couldn't fix the other issue I reported yesterday as 
downloads.sourceforge.net is completely unresponsive and I'm currently unable 
to build anymore (I did a wipe to re-test everything and after that I couldn't 
build again).


Guess this is exactly what I meant by depending on several other sites for 
downloads.


One other thing I noticed. The Readme in falcon states you need to set the 
JFLEX_JAR?, but that is not quite correct and I remember having to set 
something like FLEX_HOME etc. Eventually someone should revamp that file. I 
would have done that, but I'm not so sure if I know all that would have to go 
in there.


Chris


Re: Draft TourDeFlex announcement

2014-08-23 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi,

 In the meantime, I have couple of spare hours tonight and I want to make it
 productive.  I am going to go with the RC3 bits 
The RC3 bits and the tag are both identical so either is fine. If you run into 
any issue post here I'm up or 5 or 6 hours yet.

Thanks,
Justin

AW: Build failed in Jenkins: flex-falcon #143

2014-08-23 Thread Christofer Dutz
Actually I didn't break it ... it's just that downloads.sourceforge.net is 
currently not available, which is causing the build to fail ... so no need for 
high blood pressure ... all will be good in a few ... oh whatever the 
sourceforge speed-unit is ;-)

Chris

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: flex.ci.bui...@gmail.com [mailto:flex.ci.bui...@gmail.com] 
Gesendet: Samstag, 23. August 2014 10:00
An: comm...@flex.apache.org; Christofer Dutz; e...@ixsoftware.nl; 
bigosma...@gmail.com; aha...@adobe.com
Betreff: Build failed in Jenkins: flex-falcon #143

See http://apacheflexbuild.cloudapp.net:8080/job/flex-falcon/143/changes

Changes:

[christofer.dutz] Implemented maven artifact generation.

--
Started by an SCM change
Building remotely on flex_sdk_slave2 in workspace 
http://apacheflexbuild.cloudapp.net:8080/job/flex-falcon/ws/
No JDK named ‘(Default)’ found
Fetching changes from the remote Git repository Fetching upstream changes from 
https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/flex-falcon.git
Checking out Revision 30139d0fc00d004d33e763a97f58e75293498c09 (origin/develop) 
No JDK named ‘(Default)’ found [flex-falcon] $ cmd.exe /C 
'c:\Jenkins\tools\hudson.tasks.Ant_AntInstallation\c_apache-ant-1.9.3\bin\ant.bat
 -file jenkins.xml main  exit %%ERRORLEVEL%%'
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http://apacheflexbuild.cloudapp.net:8080/job/flex-falcon/ws/jenkins.xml

clean:
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http://apacheflexbuild.cloudapp.net:8080/job/flex-falcon/ws/jenkins/temp
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http://apacheflexbuild.cloudapp.net:8080/job/flex-falcon/ws/jenkins/JFlex
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http://apacheflexbuild.cloudapp.net:8080/job/flex-falcon/ws/jenkins/temp
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Re: Draft TourDeFlex announcement

2014-08-23 Thread OmPrakash Muppirala
Okay, it has been pushed into the staging area.  You can test it by going
to
http://flex.staging.apache.org and selecting About Flex  Tour de Flex

Or directly go to the page:
http://flex.staging.apache.org/tourdeflex/explorer.html

I will check tomorrow morning for any feedback.  If none, I will go ahead
and push it to production.

Thanks,
Om


On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 12:59 AM, Justin Mclean jus...@classsoftware.com
wrote:

 Hi,

  In the meantime, I have couple of spare hours tonight and I want to make
 it
  productive.  I am going to go with the RC3 bits
 The RC3 bits and the tag are both identical so either is fine. If you run
 into any issue post here I'm up or 5 or 6 hours yet.

 Thanks,
 Justin


Re: Draft TourDeFlex announcement

2014-08-23 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi,

 Or directly go to the page:
 http://flex.staging.apache.org/tourdeflex/explorer.html
 
 I will check tomorrow morning for any feedback.  If none, I will go ahead
 and push it to production.

Looks good to me.

One minor issue we probably need to change where the loading bar is located  
which is not noticeable when running locally.

Someone mind raising a JIRA?

Justin

RE: Falcon build generating maven artifacts

2014-08-23 Thread Frédéric THOMAS
 The Readme in falcon states you need to set the JFLEX_JAR?, but that is not 
 quite correct

Good to know I did it for nothing :-) will try without at some point this week.

Frédéric THOMAS

 From: christofer.d...@c-ware.de
 To: dev@flex.apache.org
 Subject: Falcon build generating maven artifacts
 Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 07:40:54 +
 
 Hi,
 
 
 so I just committed my changes to the build.xml and download.xml. the current 
 version in the dev branch now has a maven-artifact target that additionally 
 installs some jars to your local maven repo after finishing the build. 
 Unfortunateley I couldn't fix the other issue I reported yesterday as 
 downloads.sourceforge.net is completely unresponsive and I'm currently unable 
 to build anymore (I did a wipe to re-test everything and after that I 
 couldn't build again).
 
 
 Guess this is exactly what I meant by depending on several other sites for 
 downloads.
 
 
 One other thing I noticed. The Readme in falcon states you need to set the 
 JFLEX_JAR?, but that is not quite correct and I remember having to set 
 something like FLEX_HOME etc. Eventually someone should revamp that file. I 
 would have done that, but I'm not so sure if I know all that would have to go 
 in there.
 
 
 Chris
  

RE: Git merge issue in Flex utilities

2014-08-23 Thread Frédéric THOMAS



There are many things now in this repo, couldn't itbe useful to split it 
up into pieces, especially for the Installer and blazeDS ?

Frédéric THOMAS

 From: aha...@adobe.com
 To: dev@flex.apache.org
 Subject: Re: Git merge issue in Flex utilities
 Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 06:38:35 +
 
 
 
 On 8/22/14 11:15 PM, Justin Mclean jus...@classsoftware.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
  Agreed, and so, lesson learned: this is why we do need to cut release
  branches even if there isn't much going on in develop branch.  Or would
  the release branch also contain these blazeDS and the merge would have
  tired to merge them?
 A release branch would of been of little help here. The issue is that we
 have several projects in a git repo each under their own directory and
 git prefers one project per repo.
 Should we ask for more repos?  Or maybe just one where new donations go
 until released?
 
 -Alex
 

  

RE: Git merge issue in Flex utilities

2014-08-23 Thread Frédéric THOMAS
Sorry, I meant TDF :-)

Frédéric THOMAS

 From: webdoubl...@hotmail.com
 To: dev@flex.apache.org
 Subject: RE: Git merge issue in Flex utilities
 Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 12:28:58 +0100
 
 
 
 
 There are many things now in this repo, couldn't itbe useful to split it 
 up into pieces, especially for the Installer and blazeDS ?
 
 Frédéric THOMAS
 
  From: aha...@adobe.com
  To: dev@flex.apache.org
  Subject: Re: Git merge issue in Flex utilities
  Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 06:38:35 +
  
  
  
  On 8/22/14 11:15 PM, Justin Mclean jus...@classsoftware.com wrote:
  
  Hi,
  
   Agreed, and so, lesson learned: this is why we do need to cut release
   branches even if there isn't much going on in develop branch.  Or would
   the release branch also contain these blazeDS and the merge would have
   tired to merge them?
  A release branch would of been of little help here. The issue is that we
  have several projects in a git repo each under their own directory and
  git prefers one project per repo.
  Should we ask for more repos?  Or maybe just one where new donations go
  until released?
  
  -Alex
  
 
 
  

Re: Draft TourDeFlex announcement

2014-08-23 Thread Andrew Wetmore
Can the page have a favicon? The tab is showing up with a blank rectangle
beside its name rather than an image in Chrome.


On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Justin Mclean jus...@classsoftware.com
wrote:

 Hi,

  Or directly go to the page:
  http://flex.staging.apache.org/tourdeflex/explorer.html
 
  I will check tomorrow morning for any feedback.  If none, I will go ahead
  and push it to production.

 Looks good to me.

 One minor issue we probably need to change where the loading bar is
 located  which is not noticeable when running locally.

 Someone mind raising a JIRA?

 Justin




-- 
Andrew Wetmore

http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
http://portfolio.cottage14.com
http://annapolisndp.ca


Re: Draft TourDeFlex announcement

2014-08-23 Thread Nemi
Hi, 
I checked http://flex.staging.apache.org/tourdeflex/explorer.html and it
looks that skins from examples are missing? Like in example for Button
Width Icon, I expected to see skin's files in tabs.



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Re: Draft TourDeFlex announcement

2014-08-23 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi,

 Can the page have a favicon? 
Thanks for checking it out I've raised a JIRA for the misisng favicon here [1]

Justin

1. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-34488

Re: Draft TourDeFlex announcement

2014-08-23 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi,

 I checked http://flex.staging.apache.org/tourdeflex/explorer.html and it
 looks that skins from examples are missing? Like in example for Button
 Width Icon, I expected to see skin's files in tabs.

Nice feedback. Looks like a couple of examples are not showing all of the files 
they should in the tabs. I've raised a JIRA here. [1]

Thanks,
Justin

1. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-34489



AW: Draft TourDeFlex announcement

2014-08-23 Thread Christofer Dutz
Well I did find two things:

- The Spark Video example produces a Playback Error
- The Spark Module Load example just shows up the module panel for fragments of 
a second and then disapears again.

Chris


-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Justin Mclean [mailto:jus...@classsoftware.com] 
Gesendet: Samstag, 23. August 2014 15:20
An: dev@flex.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Draft TourDeFlex announcement 

Hi,

 I checked http://flex.staging.apache.org/tourdeflex/explorer.html and 
 it looks that skins from examples are missing? Like in example for 
 Button Width Icon, I expected to see skin's files in tabs.

Nice feedback. Looks like a couple of examples are not showing all of the files 
they should in the tabs. I've raised a JIRA here. [1]

Thanks,
Justin

1. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-34489



Re: Draft TourDeFlex announcement

2014-08-23 Thread Andrew Wetmore
I should have said earlier that I am delighted the Tour is back. One of my
favorite tools both in my own development work and for showing others what
Flex and do and how easily it can do it.


On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Christofer Dutz christofer.d...@c-ware.de
 wrote:

 Well I did find two things:

 - The Spark Video example produces a Playback Error
 - The Spark Module Load example just shows up the module panel for
 fragments of a second and then disapears again.

 Chris


 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: Justin Mclean [mailto:jus...@classsoftware.com]
 Gesendet: Samstag, 23. August 2014 15:20
 An: dev@flex.apache.org
 Betreff: Re: Draft TourDeFlex announcement

 Hi,

  I checked http://flex.staging.apache.org/tourdeflex/explorer.html and
  it looks that skins from examples are missing? Like in example for
  Button Width Icon, I expected to see skin's files in tabs.

 Nice feedback. Looks like a couple of examples are not showing all of the
 files they should in the tabs. I've raised a JIRA here. [1]

 Thanks,
 Justin

 1. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-34489




-- 
Andrew Wetmore

http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
http://portfolio.cottage14.com
http://annapolisndp.ca


Re: Draft TourDeFlex announcement

2014-08-23 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi,

 - The Spark Video example produces a Playback Error
 - The Spark Module Load example just shows up the module panel for fragments 
 of a second and then disapears again.

Mind raising JIRA's for these?

Justin

Re: Draft TourDeFlex announcement

2014-08-23 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi,

 I should have said earlier that I am delighted the Tour is back. One of my
 favorite tools both in my own development work and for showing others what
 Flex and do and how easily it can do it.


Nice to hear. Now even better you can improve and add to the examples.

Thanks,
Justin


RE: FlexUnit Training on website and Flash Builder 4.7

2014-08-23 Thread Michael A. Labriola
Started to think about updating the tutorial to also walk them through the UI 
differences too.  Before I get too far into this, I wanted to run it past the 
team.  Is it cool if I go ahead and update the tutorials to also include the 
variations in FB 4.7 versus FB 4.6?

I don't have time to work with you on this but I am willing to be a resource in 
_any_ way I can help. Any questions, comments or conversations you want to 
have, I will make time to address. If there are things we can plan to fix to 
make anything smoother I can at least help get the Jira issues in or point 
someone in the right direction. As of late, I have been a bit overwhelmed with 
client work but if there are ways I can help you be more successful, please let 
me know and I will find a way.

Thanks for working on this,
Mike



Re: Git merge issue in Flex utilities

2014-08-23 Thread Mark Kessler
Only if the release branches didn't bring over other changes too.  Unlike
some of our other repo's this one has many balls in the air at a time.


-Mark


On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 1:25 AM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote:



 On 8/22/14 9:47 PM, Justin Mclean jus...@classsoftware.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
  I think for already released products, master should only get updated
 with
  a released copy.  But it is a good question about whether the donations
  should have been dropped into master as the master copy of the
 ip-cleared
  donation, even if they weren't ready to go.  So that's why I'm ok with
 you
  merging the whole thing.
 
 Fair enough done - this is going to get tricky in the future however.
 
 And there will be some stuff that probably strictly shouldn't be in
 master ie mavinizer and blaze DS unreleased changes.
 Agreed, and so, lesson learned: this is why we do need to cut release
 branches even if there isn't much going on in develop branch.  Or would
 the release branch also contain these blazeDS and the merge would have
 tired to merge them?  Or does a merge only apply diffs from the branch
 point so it would work?

 And also, motivation to release those yet-to-be-released entities.  I saw
 Chris mention he might try to do BlazeDS

 -Alex




Re: Draft TourDeFlex announcement

2014-08-23 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi,

New draft, any other issues on the staging site or content changes below 
required before we announce the  release? 

After the staging content is made live first of course.

Thanks,
Justin

-
The Apache Flex community is pleased to announce the release of Apache
Flex TourDeFlex 1.0

The Apache Flex Tour De Flex component explorer provides a sample set of working
Apache Flex examples.

This application is based on work donated by Adobe and their component explorer 
and
is expected to be updated over time. We welcome feedback and contributions to it
from the widerApache Flex community.

The Apache Flex TourDeFlex is available in source form for you to compile from 
the
following download page:
http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/flex/tourdeflex/1.0

When downloading from a mirror site, please remember to verify the
downloads using signatures or MD5 hashes.

For your convenience have it has been  compiled and placed upon on the
Apache Flex web site:
http://flex.apache.org/tourdeflex/explorer.html

For more information on Apache Flex, visit the project home page:
http://flex.apache.org http://flex.apache.org/ http://flex.apache.org/

Thank you for using Apache Flex,
The Apache Flex Community
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Re: Draft TourDeFlex announcement

2014-08-23 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi,

Raised JIRAs for these issues.

 - The Spark Video example produces a Playback Error
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-34490

 - The Spark Module Load example just shows up the module panel for fragments 
 of a second and then disapears again.
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-34491

Thanks again for finding them.

Justin