Re: License question about Adobe Indesign

2005-03-18 Thread David Crossley
Thorsten Scherler wrote:
> Hello guys,
> 
> I have a question about Adobe Indesign license.
> 
> Would it be ok to partly reverse engineer the inx - format for us within
> a plugin?
> 
> I am not talking about the whole format. I am talking about some
> attributes and storing habits of values. 

I think we need more information to see what the issues might be.
Would you provide a URL to any license info. And is there an example
of what you are trying to create.

> The idea would be to have inx-templates (export format of an indesign
> file *.indd) and change some properties and add content. You would need
> Indesign installed to create templates, trying to say it can be from
> interest for Adobe if we would create such a plugin.

More details please about the outputs and inputs.
Which part does Forret handle?

Are their formats published?

> I found out that e.g. a box has a corresponding  tag. This tag
> has an @IGeo="value". I further found out that this @IGeo values store
> information in a certain way about "geographic" information like
> position et all..
>
> Would it be ok if I develop a plugin in forrest this way.

Don't know yet.

> Should I
> contact Adobe and ask whether we from Apache Forrest can do that?

Not necessary at this stage. If we cannot answer it at forrest-dev
then take it to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

--David


Re: better use of Jira for Forrest

2005-03-18 Thread David Crossley
Done. That clarifies the Roadmap.

Do any people out in the Forrest dev community
know other things that we can do to improve our use
of Jira? Or point to projects that use it well.

--David


Re: status.xml in "seed site"

2005-03-18 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
David Crossley wrote:
Ross Gardler wrote:
David Crossley wrote:
Ross, during the move of the status/changes/todo processing
into the projectInfo plugin, the status.xml file was removed
at main/fresh-site/status.xml ... Was that deliberate?
...
I did remove it because I moved the functionality from core and to use 
status.xml you now need to be specifically include the projectInfo 
plugin in a project. Therefore no status.xml in the seeded site.
...
Lets leave it out.
Being the one that has unified todo.xml and changes.xml in status.xml 
and put it in the main dir:

 +1
Going back I would not do it again, as ATM I believe that having these 
files separated and in a directory is better. Taking it out of the core 
makes us not force all users into using it again.

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License question about Adobe Indesign

2005-03-18 Thread Thorsten Scherler
Hello guys,

I have a question about Adobe Indesign license.

Would it be ok to partly reverse engineer the inx - format for us within
a plugin?

I am not talking about the whole format. I am talking about some
attributes and storing habits of values. 

The idea would be to have inx-templates (export format of an indesign
file *.indd) and change some properties and add content. You would need
Indesign installed to create templates, trying to say it can be from
interest for Adobe if we would create such a plugin.

I found out that e.g. a box has a corresponding  tag. This tag
has an @IGeo="value". I further found out that this @IGeo values store
information in a certain way about "geographic" information like
position et all..

Would it be ok if I develop a plugin in forrest this way. Should I
contact Adobe and ask whether we from Apache Forrest can do that?

TIA for any hints and thoughts
-- 
thorsten

"Together we stand, divided we fall!" 
Hey you (Pink Floyd)



[JIRA] Created: (FOR-471) Missing "--noconfig" causes NoClassDefFoundError due to ant sourcing external config files

2005-03-18 Thread issues
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Key: FOR-471
Summary: Missing "--noconfig" causes NoClassDefFoundError due to ant 
sourcing external config files
   Type: Bug

 Status: Unassigned
   Priority: Major

Project: Forrest
 Components: 
 Launch 'forrest'
 Launch 'forrest run'
 Core operations
   Versions:
 0.6
 0.7-dev
 HEAD

   Assignee: 
   Reporter: Richard Calmbach

Created: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:35 PM
Updated: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:35 PM
Environment: Any system that already has an Ant installation with config files 
in the standard locations (/etc/ant.conf, $HOME/.ant/ant.conf, $HOME/.antrc).

Description:
Forrest comes with a self-contained Ant distribution. In order for it to work 
properly, it is important to avoid picking up Ant config files that belong to 
other potentially existing Ant installations on the system. On Red Hat Linux, 
e.g., the RPM package for ant 1.5.2 installs /etc/ant.conf. When running 
Forrest 0.6 out of the box (e.g., "forrest -projecthelp"), the 
tools/ant/bin/ant script included with Forrest sources /etc/ant.conf and picks 
up an incorrect value for ANT_HOME (/usr/share/ant in this case). This results 
in a

Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: 
org/apache/tools/ant/launch/Launcher

exception when trying to run forrest because there is no 
/usr/share/ant/lib/ant-launcher.jar. Even if there was, we wouldn't want to 
pick up those jars anyway, we want the ones that came with Forrest.

The fix is to change line 95 (as of v0.6) in src/core/bin/forrest from

"$ANT_HOME/bin/ant" -buildfile "$ANTFILE" -Dbasedir="$PROJECT_HOME" 
-Dforrest.home="$FORREST_DOT_HOME" -emacs $@

to

"$ANT_HOME/bin/ant" --noconfig -buildfile "$ANTFILE" -Dbasedir="$PROJECT_HOME" 
-Dforrest.home="$FORREST_DOT_HOME" -emacs $@

This tells ant to ignore default config files, which is what we want in this 
case since the ant used by forrest is completely self-contained.

As of 3-18-05, this bug is still present in the HEAD revision of the forrest 
startup script (since v0.7-dev known as bin/forrest).


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Re: [JIRA] Created: (FOR-470) docs and fresh-site samples for "raw content" need update

2005-03-18 Thread Dave Brondsema
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Key: FOR-470
Summary: docs and fresh-site samples for "raw content" need update
   Type: Task
 Status: Unassigned
   Priority: Minor
Project: Forrest
   Fix Fors:
 0.7-dev
   Versions:
 0.7-dev
   Assignee:
   Reporter: David Crossley
Created: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 7:08 AM
Updated: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 7:08 AM
Description:
The documentation about "raw content" describes the method used prior to 
version 0.7
so we need to update docs and the fresh-site samples.
faq.html and upgrading_07.html and elsewhere.

I haven't been following all forrest development too closely lately
since I haven't needed to use forrest myself much.  What is the new "raw
content" method?  I did notice that the forrestbar.xpi and favicon.ico
files aren't being handled properly in our own sites.
I suppose the best way to answer this would be to update the
documentation instead of just replying :-)
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Re: better use of Jira for Forrest

2005-03-18 Thread Dave Brondsema
David Crossley wrote:
Ross Gardler wrote:
David Crossley wrote:
What i am proposing now is an extra step. Remove the option
"HEAD version" entirely from Jira. I think it is superfluous.
Sorry - I'm reading too fast this morning.
If a bug is introduced into head (i.e. wasn't in the previous release)
where would it go? The next release due I suppose.
Seems fine to me.

Yes, that is what i meant.

Would it be worth naming the next release 0.8-dev and then renaming to
0.8 when it is released? (not sure if Jira allows this, I assume it does).

Yes, that avoids all confusion. Good idea.
I just tested by moving 0.7 to 0.7-dev ... hooray.
I will do that over the weekend unless someone stops me.
--David
+1 Good ideas, guys.
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Re: problem with docs at forrest.apache.org/docs/dev/

2005-03-18 Thread Dave Brondsema
Ross Gardler wrote:
David Crossley wrote:
Just a quick note, gotta rush out now. Yes there was stacks of discussion
on this topic, but its good to be sure that we all understand, and maybe
there is a flaw.
The docs that are currently at docs/dev/ are 0.7-dev
They will move to /docs/ when the next release happens.
Then /docs/dev/ will become 0.8-dev and 0.6 (i.e. current /docs/)
goes offline.

Yes, that's the problem, all the mail archive links will be broken (in
the sense they will refer to a different document from that referred to
when the question was answered).
Ross
/docs/dev/ nested below /docs/ seems weird.  I think it would be better
to host the current stable release at a url like: /docs/0.7/.  This
would also permit us to keep documentation for all old releases
(although we would probably want warnings on them if they are too old).
0.6 docs had to be kept at /docs/ because they didn't have a split
docs/site structure so I kept it as-is.  I had been thinking we'd move
to something like /docs/0.7/ for future releases, but I can't find any
discussion about this in particular.
We should give links to documentation using a stable release, not
/docs/dev (unless of course the issues in question is new to the dev
version).  That will keep all of our archived links good.
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[JIRA] Created: (FOR-470) docs and fresh-site samples for "raw content" need update

2005-03-18 Thread issues
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Key: FOR-470
Summary: docs and fresh-site samples for "raw content" need update
   Type: Task

 Status: Unassigned
   Priority: Minor

Project: Forrest
   Fix Fors:
 0.7-dev
   Versions:
 0.7-dev

   Assignee: 
   Reporter: David Crossley

Created: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 7:08 AM
Updated: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 7:08 AM

Description:
The documentation about "raw content" describes the method used prior to 
version 0.7
so we need to update docs and the fresh-site samples.
faq.html and upgrading_07.html and elsewhere.
 


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Re: problem with docs at forrest.apache.org/docs/dev/

2005-03-18 Thread David Crossley
Ross Gardler wrote:
> David Crossley wrote:
> >Just a quick note, gotta rush out now. Yes there was stacks of discussion
> >on this topic, but its good to be sure that we all understand, and maybe
> >there is a flaw.
> >
> >The docs that are currently at docs/dev/ are 0.7-dev
> >They will move to /docs/ when the next release happens.
> >Then /docs/dev/ will become 0.8-dev and 0.6 (i.e. current /docs/)
> >goes offline.
> 
> Yes, that's the problem, all the mail archive links will be broken (in 
> the sense they will refer to a different document from that referred to 
> when the question was answered).

Okay i found some of the old discussion and made links at
http://issues.cocoondev.org/browse/FOR-391

--David


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[JIRA] Commented: (FOR-391) website docs/site split

2005-03-18 Thread issues
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 Author: David Crossley
Created: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 5:20 AM
   Body:
And another one ...

2005-03-17
problem with docs at forrest.apache.org/docs/dev/'
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=0508874
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Key: FOR-391
Summary: website docs/site split
   Type: Task

 Status: Open
   Priority: Major

Project: Forrest
 Components: 
 Documentation and website
   Fix Fors:
 0.7-dev
   Versions:
 HEAD

   Assignee: Dave Brondsema
   Reporter: Dave Brondsema

Created: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 10:51 PM
Updated: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 5:20 AM

Description:
Split our website into a standalone documentation site (which will be 
maintained per version/branch) and the main version-independent site.


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[JIRA] Commented: (FOR-391) website docs/site split

2005-03-18 Thread issues
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 Author: David Crossley
Created: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 5:18 AM
   Body:
Some discussion on this topic ...

2004-11-02
website documentation version
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10993759641

2004-11-10
[HEADS-UP] doc reorg
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=11000636233 

2004-11-17
how to redirect our website changes
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=11003600482

2005-02-18
[heads-up] forrest website updated
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=11087131301
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Key: FOR-391
Summary: website docs/site split
   Type: Task

 Status: Open
   Priority: Major

Project: Forrest
 Components: 
 Documentation and website
   Fix Fors:
 0.7-dev
   Versions:
 HEAD

   Assignee: Dave Brondsema
   Reporter: Dave Brondsema

Created: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 10:51 PM
Updated: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 5:18 AM

Description:
Split our website into a standalone documentation site (which will be 
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Re: status.xml in "seed site"

2005-03-18 Thread David Crossley
Ross Gardler wrote:
> David Crossley wrote:
> >Ross, during the move of the status/changes/todo processing
> >into the projectInfo plugin, the status.xml file was removed
> >at main/fresh-site/status.xml ... Was that deliberate?
> >
> >http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?view=rev&rev=156244
> 
> Ahhh... hmmm... yes... well... errr... I should have discussed this.
> 
> I did remove it because I moved the functionality from core and to use 
> status.xml you now need to be specifically include the projectInfo 
> plugin in a project. Therefore no status.xml in the seeded site.

That is what i wondered.

> However, this may be a case for actually including the plugin in a 
> seeded site (as we do with pdf-output).
>
> The reason I extracted this functionlaity was because it was getting in 
> the way of a legacy project here and we have another projectInfo plugin 
> for the proprietary legacy files. But this is not a good reason for 
> removing it from the seeded site.
>
> I have no strong opinions on whether it be included with the seeded site 
> or not.

Now that i understand what is happening, i see that not too many
plugins should be included by default. Lets leave it out.

Later we can have a variety of "seed sites" and they can have
different things enabled.

--David

> If you do include it you will need to specify the plugin in 
> forrest.properties as well.
> 
> Ross


Re: google desktop search in forrest

2005-03-18 Thread Ross Gardler
David Crossley wrote:
Ross Gardler wrote:
Johannes Schaefer wrote:

So far this works fine.
Now I need to insert the search term dynamically

from the form on the page. I simply don't know how

to do that. Do I need to create a Cocoon action?
One way would be to use the request generator in Cocoon ( 
http://cocoon.apache.org/2.1/userdocs/generators/request-generator.html 
). This gives you the request headers as an XML stream.

Problem is you are only allowed one generator in each pipeline so you 
would have to do the search using the XSL Document() function.

Perhaps sitemap aggregation could be used.
I don't think so, we need to extract the request parameters before we 
can generate the response from Google Desktop.

This might be a case for a new generator. It might be useful over at 
Cocoon as well.

Ross


Re: status.xml in "seed site"

2005-03-18 Thread Ross Gardler
David Crossley wrote:
Ross, during the move of the status/changes/todo processing
into the projectInfo plugin, the status.xml file was removed
at main/fresh-site/status.xml ... Was that deliberate?
http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?view=rev&rev=156244
Ahhh... hmmm... yes... well... errr... I should have discussed this.
I did remove it because I moved the functionality from core and to use 
status.xml you now need to be specifically include the projectInfo 
plugin in a project. Therefore no status.xml in the seeded site.

However, this may be a case for actually including the plugin in a 
seeded site (as we do with pdf-output).

The reason I extracted this functionlaity was because it was getting in 
the way of a legacy project here and we have another projectInfo plugin 
for the proprietary legacy files. But this is not a good reason for 
removing it from the seeded site.

I have no strong opinions on whether it be included with the seeded site 
or not.

If you do include it you will need to specify the plugin in 
forrest.properties as well.

Ross


Re: google desktop search in forrest

2005-03-18 Thread David Crossley
Ross Gardler wrote:
> Johannes Schaefer wrote:
> 
> >So far this works fine.
> >
> >Now I need to insert the search term dynamically
> >from the form on the page. I simply don't know how
> >to do that. Do I need to create a Cocoon action?
> 
> One way would be to use the request generator in Cocoon ( 
> http://cocoon.apache.org/2.1/userdocs/generators/request-generator.html 
> ). This gives you the request headers as an XML stream.
> 
> Problem is you are only allowed one generator in each pipeline so you 
> would have to do the search using the XSL Document() function.

Perhaps sitemap aggregation could be used.

--David

> This doesn't seem very nice since we are moving some of the logic into 
> an XSL sheet. I'm sure Cocoon must provide another way.
> 
> >And as I'm writing this: this is only a "live"
> >solution ... and here we have Lucene. Hum.
> 
> But google desktop does much more than search the Forrest site right?
> 
> I can image this being useful in some fairly specialised situations, but 
> if you are after being able to search Forrest docs then you are probably 
> right in that it presents no benefit of lucene.
> 
> Ross


Re: better use of Jira for Forrest

2005-03-18 Thread David Crossley
Ross Gardler wrote:
> David Crossley wrote:
> >What i am proposing now is an extra step. Remove the option
> >"HEAD version" entirely from Jira. I think it is superfluous.
> 
> Sorry - I'm reading too fast this morning.
> 
> If a bug is introduced into head (i.e. wasn't in the previous release) 
> where would it go? The next release due I suppose.
> 
> Seems fine to me.

Yes, that is what i meant.

> Would it be worth naming the next release 0.8-dev and then renaming to 
> 0.8 when it is released? (not sure if Jira allows this, I assume it does).

Yes, that avoids all confusion. Good idea.

I just tested by moving 0.7 to 0.7-dev ... hooray.

I will do that over the weekend unless someone stops me.

--David


status.xml in "seed site"

2005-03-18 Thread David Crossley
Ross, during the move of the status/changes/todo processing
into the projectInfo plugin, the status.xml file was removed
at main/fresh-site/status.xml ... Was that deliberate?

http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?view=rev&rev=156244

--David


Re: better use of Jira for Forrest

2005-03-18 Thread Ross Gardler
David Crossley wrote:
Ross Gardler wrote:
David Crossley wrote:
We need to be continually cleaning up our Jira issue tracker.
There is a lot of clutter and it means that we cannot have a
good view of our situation.
We recently defined a stack categories. That helps to provide
other ways to browse the outstanding issues.
Today i removed the 0.6.1 release version. That helps with the
Roadmap because now we can see the 0.8 issues too.
That Roadmap shows a stack of issues marked as occuring against
HEAD version and then another stack against 0.7 version.
Should all the 0.7 ones be moved to HEAD, or the other way around,
should all HEAD issues be moved to 0.7 version?
I reckon the latter, move HEAD to 0.7 version. Then we should
remove "HEAD version" as an option in Jira.
What do others reckon?
+1 - this seems to have the most meaning when we have 0.7 out the door. 
Perhaps this should be part of the release process. Everything marked as 
head during the code freeze should be moved to the upcoming release.

Yeah that is what i did last release.
What i am proposing now is an extra step. Remove the option
"HEAD version" entirely from Jira. I think it is superfluous.
Sorry - I'm reading too fast this morning.
If a bug is introduced into head (i.e. wasn't in the previous release) 
where would it go? The next release due I suppose.

Seems fine to me.
Would it be worth naming the next release 0.8-dev and then renaming to 
0.8 when it is released? (not sure if Jira allows this, I assume it does).

Ross


Re: [ProjectInfo Plugin] Action layout no more taken into account...

2005-03-18 Thread Ross Gardler
David Crossley wrote:
Cyriaque Dupoirieux wrote:
Ok, Ross,
  I was wrong once again, I was not looking in the good direction...
  In fact, my status.xml declared a  before the  tag.
  (I use this section to describe - in my history of modification - 
the rules I apply to choose the next version of my site (3 digits 
version...))
  When I realized this, I moved the section inside the  tag 
and it's Ok now.

  I don't explain this strange behavior, our problem is that no DTD 
controls the status.xml...

Yes, forrest-0.7-dev can now. Sjur supplied one recently.
For your old project status.xml you can add the declaration ...

Of course, I forgot about that.
Folks, should we add that to the default status.xml in the "seed site"?
+1
Ross


Re: better use of Jira for Forrest

2005-03-18 Thread David Crossley
Ross Gardler wrote:
> David Crossley wrote:
> >We need to be continually cleaning up our Jira issue tracker.
> >There is a lot of clutter and it means that we cannot have a
> >good view of our situation.
> >
> >We recently defined a stack categories. That helps to provide
> >other ways to browse the outstanding issues.
> >
> >Today i removed the 0.6.1 release version. That helps with the
> >Roadmap because now we can see the 0.8 issues too.
> >
> >That Roadmap shows a stack of issues marked as occuring against
> >HEAD version and then another stack against 0.7 version.
> >
> >Should all the 0.7 ones be moved to HEAD, or the other way around,
> >should all HEAD issues be moved to 0.7 version?
> >
> >I reckon the latter, move HEAD to 0.7 version. Then we should
> >remove "HEAD version" as an option in Jira.
> >
> >What do others reckon?
> 
> +1 - this seems to have the most meaning when we have 0.7 out the door. 
> Perhaps this should be part of the release process. Everything marked as 
> head during the code freeze should be moved to the upcoming release.

Yeah that is what i did last release.

What i am proposing now is an extra step. Remove the option
"HEAD version" entirely from Jira. I think it is superfluous.

--David


Re: [ProjectInfo Plugin] Action layout no more taken into account...

2005-03-18 Thread Ross Gardler
Cyriaque Dupoirieux wrote:
   I don't explain this strange behavior, our problem is that no DTD 
controls the status.xml...
Yes. This is something that needs to be sorted out now that we have the 
projectInfo plugin.

Ross


Re: google desktop search in forrest

2005-03-18 Thread Ross Gardler
Johannes Schaefer wrote:
...
So far this works fine.
Now I need to insert the search term dynamically
from the form on the page. I simply don't know how
to do that. Do I need to create a Cocoon action?
One way would be to use the request generator in Cocoon ( 
http://cocoon.apache.org/2.1/userdocs/generators/request-generator.html 
). This gives you the request headers as an XML stream.

Problem is you are only allowed one generator in each pipeline so you 
would have to do the search using the XSL Document() function.

This doesn't seem very nice since we are moving some of the logic into 
an XSL sheet. I'm sure Cocoon must provide another way.

And as I'm writing this: this is only a "live"
solution ... and here we have Lucene. Hum.
But google desktop does much more than search the Forrest site right?
I can image this being useful in some fairly specialised situations, but 
if you are after being able to search Forrest docs then you are probably 
right in that it presents no benefit of lucene.

Ross


Re: [ProjectInfo Plugin] Action layout no more taken into account...

2005-03-18 Thread David Crossley
Cyriaque Dupoirieux wrote:
> Ok, Ross,
> 
>I was wrong once again, I was not looking in the good direction...
>In fact, my status.xml declared a  before the  tag.
>(I use this section to describe - in my history of modification - 
> the rules I apply to choose the next version of my site (3 digits 
> version...))
>When I realized this, I moved the section inside the  tag 
> and it's Ok now.
> 
>I don't explain this strange behavior, our problem is that no DTD 
> controls the status.xml...

Yes, forrest-0.7-dev can now. Sjur supplied one recently.
For your old project status.xml you can add the declaration ...



It is already registered in the Forrest core catalogs,
so XML editors can use it out-of-the box.

Folks, should we add that to the default status.xml in the "seed site"?

--David


Re: better use of Jira for Forrest

2005-03-18 Thread Ross Gardler
David Crossley wrote:
We need to be continually cleaning up our Jira issue tracker.
There is a lot of clutter and it means that we cannot have a
good view of our situation.
We recently defined a stack categories. That helps to provide
other ways to browse the outstanding issues.
Today i removed the 0.6.1 release version. That helps with the
Roadmap because now we can see the 0.8 issues too.
That Roadmap shows a stack of issues marked as occuring against
HEAD version and then another stack against 0.7 version.
Should all the 0.7 ones be moved to HEAD, or the other way around,
should all HEAD issues be moved to 0.7 version?
I reckon the latter, move HEAD to 0.7 version. Then we should
remove "HEAD version" as an option in Jira.
What do others reckon?
+1 - this seems to have the most meaning when we have 0.7 out the door. 
Perhaps this should be part of the release process. Everything marked as 
head during the code freeze should be moved to the upcoming release.

Ross


Re: [ProjectInfo Plugin] Action layout no more taken into account...

2005-03-18 Thread Cyriaque Dupoirieux
Ok, Ross,
   I was wrong once again, I was not looking in the good direction...
   In fact, my status.xml declared a  before the  tag.
   (I use this section to describe - in my history of modification - 
the rules I apply to choose the next version of my site (3 digits 
version...))
   When I realized this, I moved the section inside the  tag 
and it's Ok now.

   I don't explain this strange behavior, our problem is that no DTD 
controls the status.xml...

Thanks,
Cyriaque,
Ross Gardler a écrit :
Cyriaque Dupoirieux wrote:
I updated these style sheets :
$FORREST_HOME/plugins/org.apache.forrest.plugin.projectInfo/resources/stylesheets/changes2document.xsl 

and
$FORREST_HOME/plugins/org.apache.forrest.plugin.projectInfo/resources/stylesheets/todo2document.xsl 


They are the right files. I can assure you there is nothing wrong with 
the local-deploy target as we've been using it to do exactly this kind 
of change for some time.

You can verify this for yourself if you make your changes, do "ant 
local-deploy" and check the files in FORREST_HOME/build/plugins/. You 
should see your changes in those files.

Assuming that I am correct and the files are being deployed this only 
leaves me with one of two thoughts:

1) your XSL is not correct
2) I've made some mistake in moving the code from core and in the 
plugin is not actually being used.

You can verify 2 by making some simply, but obvious, change to one of 
the XSL's - perhaps have it add "It's Working" to the title.

If that works then we'll need to see your XSL.
Ross

Ross Gardler a écrit :
Cyriaque Dupoirieux wrote:
Hi,
   I think that there is a problem with ant local-deploy target :
   * I had the ProjectInfo plug in which was generating well my pages,
   * I changed a few things in a style sheet and make a 
local-deploy to
 take them into account,
   * The layout - ... in my actions are lost.
   * Then I get back the original file and make a local-deploy again,
   * The layout - ... in my actions are still lost.

   Is there something I did not understand ?


What stylesheet file are you editing?
Ross






Re: google desktop search in forrest

2005-03-18 Thread Johannes Schaefer
OK, here is what I've done and some questions.
To experiment I created a project with a local
sitemap.xmap [1]. This contains a fixed search
request to the google search server at port 4664.
"format=xml" gives us a nice XML file back where
we can extract and present the information [2]
So far this works fine.
Now I need to insert the search term dynamically
from the form on the page. I simply don't know how
to do that. Do I need to create a Cocoon action?
To experiment yourself you'll have to look up
 in the Windows registry:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Google\Google Desktop\API\search_url
For the final solution I would think the user
hast to specify this in skinconf.xml/search.
Mind you: all this is Windows only and needs
Google Desktop Search installed on the server.
And as I'm writing this: this is only a "live"
solution ... and here we have Lucene. Hum.
Then maybe there's no way to make it work since
the search is only accessible from the machine
it runs on. Will have to think this over again.
Cheers
Johannes
[1] sitemap.xmap
--

http://apache.org/cocoon/sitemap/1.0";>
 
  
   

src="http://127.0.0.1:4664/search&s=?q=forrest&format=xml&num=100" 

/>


   
  

 

--
[2]
--

http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Transform";>


  

  Search Results

  

  



  



  


   


  


--

Ross Gardler wrote:
Johannes Schaefer wrote:
Hi!
Is there a way to use the Google desktop search
from within Google (as an replacement of either
Lucene which only works in "live" mode or Google
which does not work on an intranet)?
Johannes
Ref.
  http://desktop.google.com/
  http://desktop.google.com/developerguide.html#searchapi
Not currently.
I don't know Google Desktop search but I think this will be easy to add. 
The search functionality is added in your skins site2xhtml.xsl file

Search that file for "start Search" and you'll find the relevant bit.
If you ge this working this would be a great contribution to our code.
Ross


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better use of Jira for Forrest

2005-03-18 Thread David Crossley
We need to be continually cleaning up our Jira issue tracker.
There is a lot of clutter and it means that we cannot have a
good view of our situation.

We recently defined a stack categories. That helps to provide
other ways to browse the outstanding issues.

Today i removed the 0.6.1 release version. That helps with the
Roadmap because now we can see the 0.8 issues too.

That Roadmap shows a stack of issues marked as occuring against
HEAD version and then another stack against 0.7 version.

Should all the 0.7 ones be moved to HEAD, or the other way around,
should all HEAD issues be moved to 0.7 version?

I reckon the latter, move HEAD to 0.7 version. Then we should
remove "HEAD version" as an option in Jira.

What do others reckon?

Is there anything else that we can do to improve our use
of Jira?

--David


[notice] websites and mail and svn not available next days

2005-03-18 Thread David Crossley
The ASF infrastructure is doing work on the servers over this
extended weekend. So you may find that some services are not
available. The websites will automatically fail-over to another
server. The mail is the priority, and they will try to have
it up again ASAP. The SVN and ViewCVS will probably not be
available all weekend. Our Forrest Jira is not affected
as it is hosted at cocoondev.org

--David