[Generation and log4j]

2005-05-19 Thread Cyriaque Dupoirieux
Hello,
   FYI : I had a problem to update svn with the core/lib directory that 
I has to delete...
   Know it's OK and the problem with the external-links like 
site:MyLink is solved.
   (I had message like the following :
   X [0] 
error:site:overLibBROKEN: No pipeline matched request: 
error:site:overLib
   )

   By the way, Log4j needs to be configured :

...

cocoon 2.2.0-dev
Copyright (c) 1999-2005 Apache Software Foundation. All rights reserved.

...
Lazy mode: true
log4j:WARN No appenders could be found for logger 
(net.sf.ehcache.CacheManager).
log4j:WARN Please initialize the log4j system properly.

..
--
Regards,
Cyriaque,


Re: [Fwd: Re: Apache Lenya User Manual (spanish)]

2005-05-19 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Thu, 2005-05-19 at 01:26 +0200, Juan Jose Pablos wrote:
 Sure Mate!,
 
 There is some information about how to do it:
 
 http://casa.che-che.com/blog/2005/05/10/internalization-a-site-using-forrest-07-dev/

Cheers, dude. I will have a look and give it a go ASAP.

 
 Let me now if that works for you guys, or you want me to look about how
 to implemented with lenya.
 

I will come back to this offer if I am running into problems. 

 Cheers,
 cheche
 

a ti killo.

gracias

salu2

 Thorsten Scherler wrote:
  Cheche can you help?
  
  ...or better asked how can I help *you* to use full i18n support in
  lenya? ;-)
  
  salu2
  
  
  
  
  Subject:
  Re: Apache Lenya User Manual (spanish)
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  On Wed, 2005-05-18 at 00:29 -0400, Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote:
  
 Thorsten Scherler wrote:
 
 
 Yeah, Gregor just started to add more tutorials to our website. This one
 would be really nice for spanish speaking user/devs. 
 
 Please let us know whether we can add it to our website.
 
 since there is also a german one, i am not sure that we should just add 
 it under howto's. what can the i18n support in forrest do for us, if 
 anything?
  
  
  I have to talk to Cheche about that, he is right now working on full
  i18n support for forrest. I will report back.
  
  salu2
 
-- 
thorsten

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Re: [Generation and log4j]

2005-05-19 Thread Cyriaque Dupoirieux
Cyriaque Dupoirieux a écrit :
Hello,
   FYI : I had a problem to update svn with the core/lib directory 
that I has to delete...
 
had to delete

   Know it's OK and the problem with the external-links like 
site:MyLink is solved.
  Now, it's
   (I had message like the following :
   X [0] 
error:site:overLibBROKEN: No pipeline matched request: 
error:site:overLib
   )

   By the way, Log4j needs to be configured :

...

cocoon 2.2.0-dev
Copyright (c) 1999-2005 Apache Software Foundation. All rights reserved.

...
Lazy mode: true
log4j:WARN No appenders could be found for logger 
(net.sf.ehcache.CacheManager).
log4j:WARN Please initialize the log4j system properly.

..
Sorry I am still sleeping,
Cyriaque,


Re: svn commit: r170845 - /forrest/trunk/lib/core/xml-commons-resolver-1.1.license.txt /forrest/trunk/lib/core/xml-commons-resolver-1.2-dev-20050414T0700.jar.license.txt

2005-05-19 Thread Juan Jose Pablos
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Author: crossley
 Date: Wed May 18 17:31:19 2005
 New Revision: 170845
 
 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?rev=170845view=rev
 Log:
 We recently reverted the new entity resolver, so return to its old license.
 

I think that was my mistake. I only put xml-commons-resolver-1.1.jar
because it was like that on cocoon.

If you think that we should keep xml-commons-resolver-1.2 then we can
move that bak I will put a exclude/ on the build script.

WDYT?
Cheche


Re: Chaperon jar is required by core (Was: svn commit: r170628)

2005-05-19 Thread David Crossley
Juan Jose Pablos wrote:
 David Crossley wrote:
  The chaperon jar is required by the core, so i have moved it back.
  Please, please move one jar and test, next jar, test.
  
  Can anyone see why Chaperon is required in the core?
  Here is output from doing 'forrest run' without Chaperon.
  Doing 'forrest' is okay no errors.
 
 That is because there is a match on sitemap for dynamic creation of gramars:
 map:match pattern=*.xlex
 
 I have a patch, but I am not 100% sure how that will affect input.wiki
 plugin.
 
 WDYT?

I think leave Chaperon in the core, record a Jira issue,
add your patch and Nicola Ken's notes, and leave it until later.
I was just fixing the broken build so that we can get going
with other things.

One issue that i did wonder about at this stage, is why
the error appeared with 'forrest run' but not 'forrest site'.

--David


Re: [Generation and log4j]

2005-05-19 Thread David Crossley
Cyriaque Dupoirieux wrote:
 Cyriaque Dupoirieux a ?crit :
 
 Hello,
 
FYI : I had a problem to update svn with the core/lib directory 
 that I has to delete...
 
   

 had to delete
 
 
Know it's OK and the problem with the external-links like 
 site:MyLink is solved.
 
   Now, it's
 
(I had message like the following :
X [0] 
 error:site:overLibBROKEN: No pipeline matched request: 
 error:site:overLib
)

That sounds like you are missing an entry in site.xml

--David


Re: svn commit: r170845 - /forrest/trunk/lib/core/xml-commons-resolver-1.1.license.txt /forrest/trunk/lib/core/xml-commons-resolver-1.2-dev-20050414T0700.jar.license.txt

2005-05-19 Thread David Crossley
Juan Jose Pablos wrote:
  Author: crossley
  Date: Wed May 18 17:31:19 2005
  New Revision: 170845
  
  URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?rev=170845view=rev
  Log:
  We recently reverted the new entity resolver, so return to its old license.
  
 
 I think that was my mistake. I only put xml-commons-resolver-1.1.jar
 because it was like that on cocoon.
 
 If you think that we should keep xml-commons-resolver-1.2 then we can
 move that bak I will put a exclude/ on the build script.
 
 WDYT?

I think three No. No, it wasn't you. No, that is not
what my commit message says. No, we are not yet using
the new entity resolver.

You must have missed a big event recently. I tried to use a
pre-release of the xml-commons-resolver-1.2
It works on UNIX, but Ross reported huge problems on Windows.

I rolled it back but forgot to do the license file too.

--David


Re: [Generation and log4j]

2005-05-19 Thread Cyriaque Dupoirieux
David Crossley a écrit :
Cyriaque Dupoirieux wrote:
 

Cyriaque Dupoirieux a ?crit :
   

 Know it's OK and the problem with the external-links like 
site:MyLink is solved.
 

 Now, it's
   

 (I had message like the following :
 X [0] 
error:site:overLibBROKEN: No pipeline matched request: 
error:site:overLib
 )
 

That sounds like you are missing an entry in site.xml
 

No, I did not change my site.xml, as I said, I had a problem with the 
code/lib directory with svn -update.
So I delete it and re-update svn and now, everything is OK.
It seems that I had a conflict with cocoon jars...

But for Log4j, I don't know...
Cyriaque,
--David
 



Re: BOF for Forrest

2005-05-19 Thread Ferdinand Soethe

Here is the response from the organizers:

 what is the procedure to apply for a room for additional and BOF
 meeting at ApacheCon. We'd like to have a BOF on Forrest and possibly
 one other meeting.
 
 We will have a separate call for BOF suggestions closer to
 the conference itself.
 
 
 Is it possible for non-registrants to participate
 in these?
 
 Well, the BOF sessions are part of the conference and therefore
 BOF attendees should be registered for the conference.

So I guess we'll just have to wait for this to happen and hope that we
will get room. But I wouldn't want to rely on this for the
Views-Workshop. Also because of the exclusiveness ...

Any alternatives?

--
Ferdinand Soethe



Re: BOF for Forrest

2005-05-19 Thread Thorsten Scherler
I have to admit that I am *really* disappointed about the communication
of the conference planer and the whole organization of this conference.

I personally have send three mails (other threads) before to the
conference but still waiting for an answer (and I am not the only one).
I reckon this one will not be different. :(

I guess that means we should follow the cocoon example and organize
something for ourself to meet. 

BTW if we do so I guess I will not even attend the conference but only
meet up with the people of the forrest community. I cannot understand
why committers do not get discounts for the conference and having to pay
the fee by myself it is just *too* much money. It is a petty but who can
spend 800¤ + traveling cost + ...

If my understanding is correct the organization of this conference is
not directly from the ASF, right? 

No offense but the organization is to not really helpful in answering
questions and helping (unless so many other conferences I attended).

salu2

On Wed, 2005-05-18 at 10:29 +0200, Thorsten Scherler wrote:
 Hello everybody,
 
 I would like whether we, the forrest community, can apply for a
 Birds-of-a-Feather session on the ApacheCon EU 05.
 
 The question is whether non-registrants are allowed there?
 
 Ferdinand suggested the following:
 As far as I can tell, we could have two separate meet-ups:
 
 1. Workshop Forrest Views
 
with Thorsten explaining the concept and practical details of his
Forrest-Views and plenty of opportunity to ask questions.
 
My hope is that I will have a chance to understand Views after that
which means that we will address people with a limited
understanding of Forrest and Plug-ins.
 
Duration: ~ 2 hrs?
 
Questions:
 
- Thorsten:
 
  = are you still willing to do this
  = is my description of entry requirements correct
 
- All:
 
  = can anybody suggest a place that is open for people
without conf registration (perhaps even has a beamer?)
 
  = What evenings of the conference would you prefer to
have this meet-up
 
 2. General Exchange on Forrest
 
an opportunity for Forrest users and developers to meet and have an
open exchange about Forrest. If we have enough people committed to
participating, we could/should we announce this meeting in our
Forrest session for interested people to join us.
 
Questions:
 
  = can anybody suggest a place that is open for people
without conf registration (perhaps even has a beamer?)
 
  = What evenings of the conference would you prefer to
have this meet-up
 
 Can you please help us with this question to still have time to arrange
 alternatives? TIA!
 
 salu2
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 On Wed, 2005-05-18 at 10:29 +0200, Thorsten Scherler wrote:
  Hi,
  
  what is the procedure to apply for a room for additional and BOF
  meeting at ApacheCon. We'd like to have a BOF on Forrest and possibly
  one other meeting.
  
  Is it possible for non-registrants to participate
  in these?
  
  --
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[JIRA] Created: (FOR-501) Chaperon requiere by core

2005-05-19 Thread issues
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Key: FOR-501
Summary: Chaperon requiere by core
   Type: Bug

 Status: Unassigned
   Priority: Minor

Project: Forrest
 Components: 
 Core operations

   Assignee: 
   Reporter: Juan Jose Pablos

Created: Thu, 19 May 2005 7:49 AM
Updated: Thu, 19 May 2005 7:49 AM

Description:
Chaperon seems to be requiered by core. If a chapero-*.jar libray is not in 
place you will get this error:

java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: 
net/sourceforge/chaperon/process/LexicalProcessor



on sitemap.xmap there is this FIXME:

   !--
 FIXME: there is a bug in the Cocoon 2.2 resolving that can make 
cocoon:/ calls call the base sitemap; remove the following when it's fixed. 
 
   --

It needs more investigation as  it seems to fail only using Command line and 
not when running as servlet



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[JIRA] Updated: (FOR-501) Chaperon requiere by core

2005-05-19 Thread issues
The following issue has been updated:

Updater: Juan Jose Pablos (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])
   Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 7:51 AM
Changes:
 Fix Version changed to 0.8
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Key: FOR-501
Summary: Chaperon requiere by core
   Type: Bug

 Status: Unassigned
   Priority: Minor

Project: Forrest
 Components: 
 Core operations
   Fix Fors:
 0.8

   Assignee: 
   Reporter: Juan Jose Pablos

Created: Thu, 19 May 2005 7:49 AM
Updated: Thu, 19 May 2005 7:51 AM

Description:
Chaperon seems to be requiered by core. If a chapero-*.jar libray is not in 
place you will get this error:

java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: 
net/sourceforge/chaperon/process/LexicalProcessor



on sitemap.xmap there is this FIXME:

   !--
 FIXME: there is a bug in the Cocoon 2.2 resolving that can make 
cocoon:/ calls call the base sitemap; remove the following when it's fixed. 
 
   --

It needs more investigation as  it seems to fail only using Command line and 
not when running as servlet



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[JIRA] Updated: (FOR-501) Chaperon requiere by core

2005-05-19 Thread issues
The following issue has been updated:

Updater: Juan Jose Pablos (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])
   Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 7:50 AM
Comment:
This patch resolved the problem as it removes a dinamic generation of gramars..
Changes:
 Attachment changed to chaperon-dependency-core.diff
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Key: FOR-501
Summary: Chaperon requiere by core
   Type: Bug

 Status: Unassigned
   Priority: Minor

Project: Forrest
 Components: 
 Core operations
   Fix Fors:
 0.8

   Assignee: 
   Reporter: Juan Jose Pablos

Created: Thu, 19 May 2005 7:49 AM
Updated: Thu, 19 May 2005 7:50 AM

Description:
Chaperon seems to be requiered by core. If a chapero-*.jar libray is not in 
place you will get this error:

java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: 
net/sourceforge/chaperon/process/LexicalProcessor



on sitemap.xmap there is this FIXME:

   !--
 FIXME: there is a bug in the Cocoon 2.2 resolving that can make 
cocoon:/ calls call the base sitemap; remove the following when it's fixed. 
 
   --

It needs more investigation as  it seems to fail only using Command line and 
not when running as servlet



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Re: BOF for Forrest

2005-05-19 Thread Johannes Schaefer
snip
Since we cannot get a room at the conference for non-delegates (which 
again is understandable because they have to be paid for somehow) we 
need to find an alternative.

We could check out if any of the hotels have a room we would be able to 
use. Once I know where I am staying I can look into that.

Does anyone in the area know of any other possabilities?
I'm looking into it right now (i.e. sent emails).
One option would be to meet at the company I'm
working for, but this is rather far from the
conference. We might borrow a beamer, so any
room would do.
There are some academic buildings in the center,
I'll try what I can do ...
Johannes

Ross



Re: BOF for Forrest

2005-05-19 Thread Lars Eilebrecht
According to Thorsten:

 I have to admit that I am *really* disappointed about the communication
 of the conference planer and the whole organization of this conference.
 
 I personally have send three mails (other threads) before to the
 conference but still waiting for an answer (and I am not the only one).
 I reckon this one will not be different. :(

Your last email regarding BOFs was submitted by you to the
ApacheCon planners 18 May and answered by me today (at 1:30 am).
The other two emails you submitted end of March where regarding
a session proposal for the conference. It was submitted after
our CFP deadline and actually after our final planning meeting.
We usually cannot accept proposals received after the deadline
as this would be unfair to the other people that submitted
proposals. As far as I remember we answered your email and told
you that we cannot consider the proposal for ApacheCon Europe.
If we really didn't sent this email or if it wasn't received
by you, I'm sorry ... we always receive some unsolicited proposals
for sessions are the CFP deadline and often we don't have
to time to answer these or just fall through the cracks.


 I guess that means we should follow the cocoon example and organize
 something for ourself to meet. 
 
 BTW if we do so I guess I will not even attend the conference but only
 meet up with the people of the forrest community. I cannot understand
 why committers do not get discounts for the conference and having to pay
 the fee by myself it is just *too* much money. It is a petty but who can
 spend 800¤ + traveling cost + ...

Sure, it would be great if we could find a sponsor to give every
committer or even every Apache user free admission to the conference, but
without such a big sponsor that's not possible.  ApacheCon is a
commercial tech conference and therefore there is a few for attending
the conference ... like with any other tech conference.  Do you get
in for free at O'Reilly or JavaOne conferences? No, you don't.

ApacheCon is not just a social get-to-gether of committers or members, 
but a conference that provides intense lectures, tutorials, and
presentations to Apache users. It's there for people to learn something
about Apache and related technologies.

Thorsten, as a committer you are probably aware of the ASF hackathon
that happens at the beginning of the conference (information about
this was provided some time ago). This event is a get-to-gether of
developers and open (only) to ASF members and committers. And
it's free of charge ... 

If you do not consider this sufficient, then I'm afraid you may
want to consider organizing something yourself.

 
 If my understanding is correct the organization of this conference is
 not directly from the ASF, right? 

ApacheCon is organized by the ASF in coorporation with a
commercial conference producer.



My $0.02

ciao...
-- 
Lars Eilebrecht  - Imagination is more important
[EMAIL PROTECTED]- than knowledge. (Albert Einstein)


NullPointerException building cocoon for forrest

2005-05-19 Thread Juan Jose Pablos
Hi,
I need a bit of help building cocoon for forrest. After a succesful
build, I am getting this error just for forrest site:

Exception in thread main java.lang.NullPointerException
at org.apache.cocoon.Cocoon.initialize(Cocoon.java:177)
at
org.apache.avalon.framework.container.ContainerUtil.initialize(ContainerUtil.java:283)
at
org.apache.cocoon.bean.CocoonWrapper.initialize(CocoonWrapper.java:175)
at org.apache.cocoon.bean.CocoonBean.initialize(CocoonBean.java:98)
at org.apache.cocoon.Main.main(Main.java:320)

BUILD FAILED
/home/cheche/xml/forrest/trunk/main/targets/site.xml:41: Java returned: 1


I have been digging and it seems relate somehow to this commit:
http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi?rev=164112view=rev

Can someone put some light on it?

Cheers,
cheche



Re: BOF for Forrest

2005-05-19 Thread Ben Laurie
Lars Eilebrecht wrote:
According to Thorsten:

I have to admit that I am *really* disappointed about the communication
of the conference planer and the whole organization of this conference.
I personally have send three mails (other threads) before to the
conference but still waiting for an answer (and I am not the only one).
I reckon this one will not be different. :(

Your last email regarding BOFs was submitted by you to the
ApacheCon planners 18 May and answered by me today (at 1:30 am).
That took nearly 15 hours! You're fired!
--
http://www.apache-ssl.org/ben.html   http://www.thebunker.net/
There is no limit to what a man can do or how far he can go if he
doesn't mind who gets the credit. - Robert Woodruff


Re: BOF for Forrest

2005-05-19 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Thu, 2005-05-19 at 15:06 +0200, Lars Eilebrecht wrote:
 According to Thorsten:
 
  I have to admit that I am *really* disappointed about the communication
  of the conference planer and the whole organization of this conference.
  
  I personally have send three mails (other threads) before to the
  conference but still waiting for an answer (and I am not the only one).
  I reckon this one will not be different. :(
 
 Your last email regarding BOFs was submitted by you to the
 ApacheCon planners 18 May and answered by me today (at 1:30 am).

Yeah, I was to fast. Sorry.

 The other two emails you submitted end of March where regarding
 a session proposal for the conference. It was submitted after
 our CFP deadline and actually after our final planning meeting.
 We usually cannot accept proposals received after the deadline
 as this would be unfair to the other people that submitted
 proposals. As far as I remember we answered your email and told
 you that we cannot consider the proposal for ApacheCon Europe.
 If we really didn't sent this email or if it wasn't received
 by you, I'm sorry ... we always receive some unsolicited proposals
 for sessions are the CFP deadline and often we don't have
 to time to answer these or just fall through the cracks.
 

Hmm, ok I *never* received anything as answer for the mentioned mails
for the proposal. I even wrote Ken Coar directly (that was the third
mail) and no answer as well. 

No problem in not accepting the proposal because like you said it was
not in time, but I was waiting for a NO or YES. That is the most basic
thing IMO. Ignoring this mails leads to the situation of frustration.

Even if you receive a lot of mails, it *should* be possible to copy n'
paste something like: sorry your proposal is to late, try next time
within the deadline. 

...but like I stated in the previous mail I am not the only one waiting
for an answer of the conference planer (and the case I have in mind was
not like mine).

  I guess that means we should follow the cocoon example and organize
  something for ourself to meet. 
  
  BTW if we do so I guess I will not even attend the conference but only
  meet up with the people of the forrest community. I cannot understand
  why committers do not get discounts for the conference and having to pay
  the fee by myself it is just *too* much money. It is a petty but who can
  spend 800¤ + traveling cost + ...
 
 Sure, it would be great if we could find a sponsor to give every
 committer or even every Apache user free admission to the conference, but
 without such a big sponsor that's not possible. 

I was not talking about free admission but some % off (something like
the group discount). It is the work of the committer that creating the
basis for this conference (the software and communities). If the
committer would not do their work for free the conference would not have
anything to talk about. Did you thought about that?

  ApacheCon is a
 commercial tech conference and therefore there is a few for attending
 the conference ... like with any other tech conference.  Do you get
 in for free at O'Reilly or JavaOne conferences? No, you don't.
 

Again I am not talking about free. ...and yes you get % on the above
mentioned conference if you are staff of e.g. O'Reilly. Committer are
staff of the ASF. 

 ApacheCon is not just a social get-to-gether of committers or members, 
 but a conference that provides intense lectures, tutorials, and
 presentations to Apache users. It's there for people to learn something
 about Apache and related technologies.
 

Agree. 

 Thorsten, as a committer you are probably aware of the ASF hackathon
 that happens at the beginning of the conference (information about
 this was provided some time ago). This event is a get-to-gether of
 developers and open (only) to ASF members and committers. And
 it's free of charge ... 
 

Yeah, nice. I guess (hope) we will meet there. ;-)

 If you do not consider this sufficient, then I'm afraid you may
 want to consider organizing something yourself.
 

That is not the point. See above.

  
  If my understanding is correct the organization of this conference is
  not directly from the ASF, right? 
 
 ApacheCon is organized by the ASF in coorporation with a
 commercial conference producer.
 
 

Ok.

 
 My $0.02
 
 ciao...

Thanks for answering. :) 

...and sorry if my mail was a wee bit harsh. I guess it was the
frustration not getting any answer and having to pay the normal
admission. Next time I will submit a proposal in time. ;-)

Hope that you guys can arrange a small discount for committers that
would be very welcome. ...again I do not expect it to be free. ;-) Then
I could come for a day or two. I do not live in Germany anymore so going
there will be not very cheap.

No hard feelings.

salu2
-- 
thorsten

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