Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Kafka 3.9.0 release

[Loic Greffier]

Hello,

Can KIP-1033 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1033%3A+Add+Kafka+Streams+exception+handler+for+exceptions+occurring+during+processing
 be included in this release?

Most of the PRs related to this KIP have been reviewed and merged. There are 3 
additional less complex PRs which are currently under reviewed.

Thanks

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Kafka 3.9.0 release

[Chia-Ping Tsai]

> oh, sorry that there are 2 binding votes :(

updated:  KIP-1067 
(https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=311627623) 
has 3 binding votes now. The PR is ready 
(https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/16572) 

Hence, could KIP-1067 be included in 3.9.0? thanks!

Best,
Chia-Ping

On 2024/07/11 21:12:02 Chia-Ping Tsai wrote:
> > KIP-1067 
> > (https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=311627623)
> >  is accepted.
> 
> oh, sorry that there are 2 binding votes :(
> 
> On 2024/07/11 21:09:10 Chia-Ping Tsai wrote:
> > hi Collin
> > 
> > KIP-1067 
> > (https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=311627623)
> >  is accepted. The PR is ready (https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/16572) 
> > and I will merge it later.
> > 
> > So could you please include KIP-1067 in 3.9.0?
> > 
> > Thanks!
> > Chia-Ping
> > 
> > On 2024/06/14 17:55:13 Colin McCabe wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > > 
> > > Based on the discussion in the 3.8 release thread, we will need a 3.9 
> > > release. I guess I should create a new email thread to discuss this.
> > > 
> > > I'd like to volunteer as release manager for the Apache Kafka 3.9.0 
> > > release. There's a release plan here: 
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+3.9.0
> > > 
> > > best,
> > > Colin
> > > 
> > 
> 

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Kafka 3.9.0 release

[jiang dou]

hello

KIP-1049 (
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1049%3A+Add+config+log.summary.interval.ms+to+Kafka+Streams)
is accepted.
And a PR has been submitted (https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/16509)

So could you please include KIP-1049 in 3.9.0?

Chia-Ping Tsai  于2024年7月12日周五 05:12写道：

> > KIP-1067 (
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=311627623)
> is accepted.
>
> oh, sorry that there are 2 binding votes :(
>
> On 2024/07/11 21:09:10 Chia-Ping Tsai wrote:
> > hi Collin
> >
> > KIP-1067 (
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=311627623)
> is accepted. The PR is ready (https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/16572)
> and I will merge it later.
> >
> > So could you please include KIP-1067 in 3.9.0?
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Chia-Ping
> >
> > On 2024/06/14 17:55:13 Colin McCabe wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Based on the discussion in the 3.8 release thread, we will need a 3.9
> release. I guess I should create a new email thread to discuss this.
> > >
> > > I'd like to volunteer as release manager for the Apache Kafka 3.9.0
> release. There's a release plan here:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+3.9.0
> > >
> > > best,
> > > Colin
> > >
> >
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Kafka 3.9.0 release

[Chia-Ping Tsai]

> KIP-1067 
> (https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=311627623) 
> is accepted.

oh, sorry that there are 2 binding votes :(

On 2024/07/11 21:09:10 Chia-Ping Tsai wrote:
> hi Collin
> 
> KIP-1067 
> (https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=311627623) 
> is accepted. The PR is ready (https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/16572) and 
> I will merge it later.
> 
> So could you please include KIP-1067 in 3.9.0?
> 
> Thanks!
> Chia-Ping
> 
> On 2024/06/14 17:55:13 Colin McCabe wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > Based on the discussion in the 3.8 release thread, we will need a 3.9 
> > release. I guess I should create a new email thread to discuss this.
> > 
> > I'd like to volunteer as release manager for the Apache Kafka 3.9.0 
> > release. There's a release plan here: 
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+3.9.0
> > 
> > best,
> > Colin
> > 
> 

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Kafka 3.9.0 release

[Chia-Ping Tsai]

hi Collin

KIP-1067 
(https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=311627623) is 
accepted. The PR is ready (https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/16572) and I 
will merge it later.

So could you please include KIP-1067 in 3.9.0?

Thanks!
Chia-Ping

On 2024/06/14 17:55:13 Colin McCabe wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Based on the discussion in the 3.8 release thread, we will need a 3.9 
> release. I guess I should create a new email thread to discuss this.
> 
> I'd like to volunteer as release manager for the Apache Kafka 3.9.0 release. 
> There's a release plan here: 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+3.9.0
> 
> best,
> Colin
> 

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Kafka 3.9.0 release

[Nelson B.]

Hi Colin,

Just wanted to let you know that KIP-1025 was accepted on July 1st, and the
related PR was merged yesterday.

Thanks!

On Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 7:47 PM Mickael Maison 
wrote:

> Hi Colin,
>
> I've added both KIP-1057 (Approved, PR under review) and KIP-1040
> (Approved and PR merged) to the release plan.
>
> I also added KIP-1031 as I merged the PR this morning.
>
> Thanks,
> Mickael
>
> On Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 9:22 AM Mario Fiore Vitale 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Colin,
> >
> > Can the KIP-1040[1] be included? It is accepted and the relative PR has
> > been merged.
> >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1040%3A+Improve+handling+of+nullable+values+in+InsertField%2C+ExtractField%2C+and+other+transformations
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mario.
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 9:18 AM Federico Valeri 
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Colin, thanks, but I don't see my KIP in the release plan. Am I
> > > looking at the wrong page? Anyway, I think the PR is ready to be
> > > merged, I'm just waiting for one of the reviewers 2nd pass.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jul 8, 2024 at 8:07 PM Colin McCabe  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Federico,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the KIP. I've added it to the release plan. I hope we can
> get
> > > it in this week or next, since feature freeze is imminent.
> > > >
> > > > Colin
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Jun 30, 2024, at 23:29, Federico Valeri wrote:
> > > > > Hi Colin, is it possible to include this small KIP in the release
> plan?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1057%3A+Add+remote+log+metadata+flag+to+the+dump+log+tool
> > > > >
> > > > > There is already an open PR.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 7:13 AM Nelson B.  >
> > > wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Hi Colin,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> If you have time could you please have a look at KIP-1025 and cast
> > > your
> > > > >> vote?
> > > > >> It is currently one vote short of being accepted. Any sort of
> feedback
> > > > >> would be appreciated.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Thanks.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 4:45 PM Mario Fiore Vitale <
> > > mvit...@redhat.com>
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > Hi Colin,
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > > Do we feel that KIP-1040 can make feature freeze?
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > I think yes but it all depends on the review. In any case the
> > > changes are
> > > > >> > not so complex.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Mario.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 10:06 PM Colin McCabe <
> cmcc...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > > Hi Mario and Nelson,
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Thanks for asking. Both of these KIPs can certainly go in 3.9
> if
> > > we can
> > > > >> > > hit the deadlines. If you need an extra day or two just ping
> me.
> > > (But I
> > > > >> > > don't want to extend things for too long!) :)
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Do we feel that KIP-1040 can make feature freeze?
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > best,
> > > > >> > > Colin
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > On Tue, Jun 25, 2024, at 01:48, Mario Fiore Vitale wrote:
> > > > >> > > > Hi all,
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > Can the KIP-1040[1] be included? It is accepted and a PR
> review
> > > is in
> > > > >> > > > progress.
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> >
> > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1040%3A+Improve+handling+of+nullable+values+in+InsertField%2C+ExtractField%2C+and+other+transformations
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > Thanks,
> > > > >> > > > Mario.
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 8:28 AM Nelson B. <
> > > bachmanity...@gmail.com>
> > > > >> > > wrote:
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > >> Hello,
> > > > >> > > >>
> > > > >> > > >> Can I include KIP-1025
> > > > >> > > >> <
> > > > >> > > >>
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> >
> > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1025%3A+Optionally+URL-encode+clientID+and+clientSecret+in+authorization+header
> > > > >> > > >> >
> > > > >> > > >> in
> > > > >> > > >> this release?
> > > > >> > > >> It's currently in the voting stage, I hope it can receive
> > > enough votes
> > > > >> > > by
> > > > >> > > >> next week.
> > > > >> > > >>
> > > > >> > > >> Thanks.
> > > > >> > > >>
> > > > >> > > >> On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 5:32 AM José Armando García Sancio
> > > > >> > > >>  wrote:
> > > > >> > > >>
> > > > >> > > >> > Would it be better to start a DISCUSS thread for 4.0 and
> > > keep this
> > > > >> > > >> > thread for 3.9 discussions? We seem to have agreement on
> 3.9.
> > > > >> > > >> >
> > > > >> > > >> > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 4:29 PM José Armando García
> Sancio
> > > > >> > > >> >  wrote:
> > > > >> > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > >> > > +1 for me. Thanks Colin for volunteering to be the
> release
> > > > >> > manager.
> > > > >> > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > >> > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 4:15 PM Ismael Juma <
> > > m...@ismaeljuma.com>
> > > > >> > 

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Kafka 3.9.0 release

[Mickael Maison]

Hi Colin,

I've added both KIP-1057 (Approved, PR under review) and KIP-1040
(Approved and PR merged) to the release plan.

I also added KIP-1031 as I merged the PR this morning.

Thanks,
Mickael

On Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 9:22 AM Mario Fiore Vitale  wrote:
>
> Hi Colin,
>
> Can the KIP-1040[1] be included? It is accepted and the relative PR has
> been merged.
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1040%3A+Improve+handling+of+nullable+values+in+InsertField%2C+ExtractField%2C+and+other+transformations
>
> Thanks,
> Mario.
>
> On Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 9:18 AM Federico Valeri  wrote:
>
> > Hi Colin, thanks, but I don't see my KIP in the release plan. Am I
> > looking at the wrong page? Anyway, I think the PR is ready to be
> > merged, I'm just waiting for one of the reviewers 2nd pass.
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 8, 2024 at 8:07 PM Colin McCabe  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Federico,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the KIP. I've added it to the release plan. I hope we can get
> > it in this week or next, since feature freeze is imminent.
> > >
> > > Colin
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Jun 30, 2024, at 23:29, Federico Valeri wrote:
> > > > Hi Colin, is it possible to include this small KIP in the release plan?
> > > >
> > > >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1057%3A+Add+remote+log+metadata+flag+to+the+dump+log+tool
> > > >
> > > > There is already an open PR.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 7:13 AM Nelson B. 
> > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi Colin,
> > > >>
> > > >> If you have time could you please have a look at KIP-1025 and cast
> > your
> > > >> vote?
> > > >> It is currently one vote short of being accepted. Any sort of feedback
> > > >> would be appreciated.
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks.
> > > >>
> > > >> On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 4:45 PM Mario Fiore Vitale <
> > mvit...@redhat.com>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > Hi Colin,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > Do we feel that KIP-1040 can make feature freeze?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I think yes but it all depends on the review. In any case the
> > changes are
> > > >> > not so complex.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Mario.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 10:06 PM Colin McCabe 
> > wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > Hi Mario and Nelson,
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Thanks for asking. Both of these KIPs can certainly go in 3.9 if
> > we can
> > > >> > > hit the deadlines. If you need an extra day or two just ping me.
> > (But I
> > > >> > > don't want to extend things for too long!) :)
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Do we feel that KIP-1040 can make feature freeze?
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > best,
> > > >> > > Colin
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > On Tue, Jun 25, 2024, at 01:48, Mario Fiore Vitale wrote:
> > > >> > > > Hi all,
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Can the KIP-1040[1] be included? It is accepted and a PR review
> > is in
> > > >> > > > progress.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1040%3A+Improve+handling+of+nullable+values+in+InsertField%2C+ExtractField%2C+and+other+transformations
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Thanks,
> > > >> > > > Mario.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 8:28 AM Nelson B. <
> > bachmanity...@gmail.com>
> > > >> > > wrote:
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >> Hello,
> > > >> > > >>
> > > >> > > >> Can I include KIP-1025
> > > >> > > >> <
> > > >> > > >>
> > > >> > >
> > > >> >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1025%3A+Optionally+URL-encode+clientID+and+clientSecret+in+authorization+header
> > > >> > > >> >
> > > >> > > >> in
> > > >> > > >> this release?
> > > >> > > >> It's currently in the voting stage, I hope it can receive
> > enough votes
> > > >> > > by
> > > >> > > >> next week.
> > > >> > > >>
> > > >> > > >> Thanks.
> > > >> > > >>
> > > >> > > >> On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 5:32 AM José Armando García Sancio
> > > >> > > >>  wrote:
> > > >> > > >>
> > > >> > > >> > Would it be better to start a DISCUSS thread for 4.0 and
> > keep this
> > > >> > > >> > thread for 3.9 discussions? We seem to have agreement on 3.9.
> > > >> > > >> >
> > > >> > > >> > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 4:29 PM José Armando García Sancio
> > > >> > > >> >  wrote:
> > > >> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > >> > > +1 for me. Thanks Colin for volunteering to be the release
> > > >> > manager.
> > > >> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > >> > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 4:15 PM Ismael Juma <
> > m...@ismaeljuma.com>
> > > >> > > wrote:
> > > >> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >> > > > Hi all,
> > > >> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >> > > > I think we should actually look at the target dates vs
> > just
> > > >> > > looking
> > > >> > > >> at
> > > >> > > >> > the
> > > >> > > >> > > > release length. 3.9 is an August release. I suggest we
> > aim for a
> > > >> > > >> > November
> > > >> > > >> > > > release for 4.0, which is 3 months (instead of 4). Why?
> > Because
> > > >> > > >> > December is
> > > >> > > >> > > > a tricky month given holidays and 

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Kafka 3.9.0 release

[Mario Fiore Vitale]

Hi Colin,

Can the KIP-1040[1] be included? It is accepted and the relative PR has
been merged.

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1040%3A+Improve+handling+of+nullable+values+in+InsertField%2C+ExtractField%2C+and+other+transformations

Thanks,
Mario.

On Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 9:18 AM Federico Valeri  wrote:

> Hi Colin, thanks, but I don't see my KIP in the release plan. Am I
> looking at the wrong page? Anyway, I think the PR is ready to be
> merged, I'm just waiting for one of the reviewers 2nd pass.
>
> On Mon, Jul 8, 2024 at 8:07 PM Colin McCabe  wrote:
> >
> > Hi Federico,
> >
> > Thanks for the KIP. I've added it to the release plan. I hope we can get
> it in this week or next, since feature freeze is imminent.
> >
> > Colin
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 30, 2024, at 23:29, Federico Valeri wrote:
> > > Hi Colin, is it possible to include this small KIP in the release plan?
> > >
> > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1057%3A+Add+remote+log+metadata+flag+to+the+dump+log+tool
> > >
> > > There is already an open PR.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 7:13 AM Nelson B. 
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hi Colin,
> > >>
> > >> If you have time could you please have a look at KIP-1025 and cast
> your
> > >> vote?
> > >> It is currently one vote short of being accepted. Any sort of feedback
> > >> would be appreciated.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks.
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 4:45 PM Mario Fiore Vitale <
> mvit...@redhat.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Hi Colin,
> > >> >
> > >> > > Do we feel that KIP-1040 can make feature freeze?
> > >> >
> > >> > I think yes but it all depends on the review. In any case the
> changes are
> > >> > not so complex.
> > >> >
> > >> > Mario.
> > >> >
> > >> > On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 10:06 PM Colin McCabe 
> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Hi Mario and Nelson,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Thanks for asking. Both of these KIPs can certainly go in 3.9 if
> we can
> > >> > > hit the deadlines. If you need an extra day or two just ping me.
> (But I
> > >> > > don't want to extend things for too long!) :)
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Do we feel that KIP-1040 can make feature freeze?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > best,
> > >> > > Colin
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Tue, Jun 25, 2024, at 01:48, Mario Fiore Vitale wrote:
> > >> > > > Hi all,
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Can the KIP-1040[1] be included? It is accepted and a PR review
> is in
> > >> > > > progress.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1040%3A+Improve+handling+of+nullable+values+in+InsertField%2C+ExtractField%2C+and+other+transformations
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Thanks,
> > >> > > > Mario.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 8:28 AM Nelson B. <
> bachmanity...@gmail.com>
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >> Hello,
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> Can I include KIP-1025
> > >> > > >> <
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1025%3A+Optionally+URL-encode+clientID+and+clientSecret+in+authorization+header
> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> in
> > >> > > >> this release?
> > >> > > >> It's currently in the voting stage, I hope it can receive
> enough votes
> > >> > > by
> > >> > > >> next week.
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> Thanks.
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 5:32 AM José Armando García Sancio
> > >> > > >>  wrote:
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> > Would it be better to start a DISCUSS thread for 4.0 and
> keep this
> > >> > > >> > thread for 3.9 discussions? We seem to have agreement on 3.9.
> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 4:29 PM José Armando García Sancio
> > >> > > >> >  wrote:
> > >> > > >> > >
> > >> > > >> > > +1 for me. Thanks Colin for volunteering to be the release
> > >> > manager.
> > >> > > >> > >
> > >> > > >> > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 4:15 PM Ismael Juma <
> m...@ismaeljuma.com>
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > > >> > > >
> > >> > > >> > > > Hi all,
> > >> > > >> > > >
> > >> > > >> > > > I think we should actually look at the target dates vs
> just
> > >> > > looking
> > >> > > >> at
> > >> > > >> > the
> > >> > > >> > > > release length. 3.9 is an August release. I suggest we
> aim for a
> > >> > > >> > November
> > >> > > >> > > > release for 4.0, which is 3 months (instead of 4). Why?
> Because
> > >> > > >> > December is
> > >> > > >> > > > a tricky month given holidays and all. And it gives us a
> buffer
> > >> > > for
> > >> > > >> > release
> > >> > > >> > > > delays that still allows for a 4.0 in 2024.
> > >> > > >> > > >
> > >> > > >> > > > Ismael
> > >> > > >> > > >
> > >> > > >> > > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 12:54 PM Matthias J. Sax <
> > >> > > mj...@apache.org>
> > >> > > >> > wrote:
> > >> > > >> > > >
> > >> > > >> > > > > In general I prefer to stick with the original time
> frame,
> > >> > but I
> > >> > > >> > believe
> > >> > > >> > > > > an additional month would be good for KIP-848.
> > >> > > >> 

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Kafka 3.9.0 release

[Federico Valeri]

Hi Colin, thanks, but I don't see my KIP in the release plan. Am I
looking at the wrong page? Anyway, I think the PR is ready to be
merged, I'm just waiting for one of the reviewers 2nd pass.

On Mon, Jul 8, 2024 at 8:07 PM Colin McCabe  wrote:
>
> Hi Federico,
>
> Thanks for the KIP. I've added it to the release plan. I hope we can get it 
> in this week or next, since feature freeze is imminent.
>
> Colin
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 30, 2024, at 23:29, Federico Valeri wrote:
> > Hi Colin, is it possible to include this small KIP in the release plan?
> >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1057%3A+Add+remote+log+metadata+flag+to+the+dump+log+tool
> >
> > There is already an open PR.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 7:13 AM Nelson B.  wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Colin,
> >>
> >> If you have time could you please have a look at KIP-1025 and cast your
> >> vote?
> >> It is currently one vote short of being accepted. Any sort of feedback
> >> would be appreciated.
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 4:45 PM Mario Fiore Vitale 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi Colin,
> >> >
> >> > > Do we feel that KIP-1040 can make feature freeze?
> >> >
> >> > I think yes but it all depends on the review. In any case the changes are
> >> > not so complex.
> >> >
> >> > Mario.
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 10:06 PM Colin McCabe  wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Hi Mario and Nelson,
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks for asking. Both of these KIPs can certainly go in 3.9 if we can
> >> > > hit the deadlines. If you need an extra day or two just ping me. (But I
> >> > > don't want to extend things for too long!) :)
> >> > >
> >> > > Do we feel that KIP-1040 can make feature freeze?
> >> > >
> >> > > best,
> >> > > Colin
> >> > >
> >> > > On Tue, Jun 25, 2024, at 01:48, Mario Fiore Vitale wrote:
> >> > > > Hi all,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Can the KIP-1040[1] be included? It is accepted and a PR review is in
> >> > > > progress.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1040%3A+Improve+handling+of+nullable+values+in+InsertField%2C+ExtractField%2C+and+other+transformations
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Thanks,
> >> > > > Mario.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 8:28 AM Nelson B. 
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> Hello,
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Can I include KIP-1025
> >> > > >> <
> >> > > >>
> >> > >
> >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1025%3A+Optionally+URL-encode+clientID+and+clientSecret+in+authorization+header
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> in
> >> > > >> this release?
> >> > > >> It's currently in the voting stage, I hope it can receive enough 
> >> > > >> votes
> >> > > by
> >> > > >> next week.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Thanks.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 5:32 AM José Armando García Sancio
> >> > > >>  wrote:
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> > Would it be better to start a DISCUSS thread for 4.0 and keep this
> >> > > >> > thread for 3.9 discussions? We seem to have agreement on 3.9.
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 4:29 PM José Armando García Sancio
> >> > > >> >  wrote:
> >> > > >> > >
> >> > > >> > > +1 for me. Thanks Colin for volunteering to be the release
> >> > manager.
> >> > > >> > >
> >> > > >> > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 4:15 PM Ismael Juma 
> >> > > >> > > 
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > > Hi all,
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > > I think we should actually look at the target dates vs just
> >> > > looking
> >> > > >> at
> >> > > >> > the
> >> > > >> > > > release length. 3.9 is an August release. I suggest we aim 
> >> > > >> > > > for a
> >> > > >> > November
> >> > > >> > > > release for 4.0, which is 3 months (instead of 4). Why? 
> >> > > >> > > > Because
> >> > > >> > December is
> >> > > >> > > > a tricky month given holidays and all. And it gives us a 
> >> > > >> > > > buffer
> >> > > for
> >> > > >> > release
> >> > > >> > > > delays that still allows for a 4.0 in 2024.
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > > Ismael
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 12:54 PM Matthias J. Sax <
> >> > > mj...@apache.org>
> >> > > >> > wrote:
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > In general I prefer to stick with the original time frame,
> >> > but I
> >> > > >> > believe
> >> > > >> > > > > an additional month would be good for KIP-848.
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > Maybe we can cut down 2 weeks for the 4.1 and 4.2 releases
> >> > > each, to
> >> > > >> > make
> >> > > >> > > > > up for the time? Not a must; just an idea. We can also just
> >> > > accept
> >> > > >> a
> >> > > >> > > > > one-time shift of the release time plan -- we did not really
> >> > > lose
> >> > > >> the
> >> > > >> > > > > time effectively, as there was one additional release.
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > -Matthias
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > On 6/17/24 12:14 PM, David Jacot wrote:
> >> > > >> > > > > > 

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Kafka 3.9.0 release

[Colin McCabe]

Hi Federico,

Thanks for the KIP. I've added it to the release plan. I hope we can get it in 
this week or next, since feature freeze is imminent.

Colin


On Sun, Jun 30, 2024, at 23:29, Federico Valeri wrote:
> Hi Colin, is it possible to include this small KIP in the release plan?
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1057%3A+Add+remote+log+metadata+flag+to+the+dump+log+tool
>
> There is already an open PR.
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 7:13 AM Nelson B.  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Colin,
>>
>> If you have time could you please have a look at KIP-1025 and cast your
>> vote?
>> It is currently one vote short of being accepted. Any sort of feedback
>> would be appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 4:45 PM Mario Fiore Vitale 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Colin,
>> >
>> > > Do we feel that KIP-1040 can make feature freeze?
>> >
>> > I think yes but it all depends on the review. In any case the changes are
>> > not so complex.
>> >
>> > Mario.
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 10:06 PM Colin McCabe  wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi Mario and Nelson,
>> > >
>> > > Thanks for asking. Both of these KIPs can certainly go in 3.9 if we can
>> > > hit the deadlines. If you need an extra day or two just ping me. (But I
>> > > don't want to extend things for too long!) :)
>> > >
>> > > Do we feel that KIP-1040 can make feature freeze?
>> > >
>> > > best,
>> > > Colin
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Jun 25, 2024, at 01:48, Mario Fiore Vitale wrote:
>> > > > Hi all,
>> > > >
>> > > > Can the KIP-1040[1] be included? It is accepted and a PR review is in
>> > > > progress.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1040%3A+Improve+handling+of+nullable+values+in+InsertField%2C+ExtractField%2C+and+other+transformations
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks,
>> > > > Mario.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 8:28 AM Nelson B. 
>> > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >> Hello,
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Can I include KIP-1025
>> > > >> <
>> > > >>
>> > >
>> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1025%3A+Optionally+URL-encode+clientID+and+clientSecret+in+authorization+header
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> in
>> > > >> this release?
>> > > >> It's currently in the voting stage, I hope it can receive enough votes
>> > > by
>> > > >> next week.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Thanks.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 5:32 AM José Armando García Sancio
>> > > >>  wrote:
>> > > >>
>> > > >> > Would it be better to start a DISCUSS thread for 4.0 and keep this
>> > > >> > thread for 3.9 discussions? We seem to have agreement on 3.9.
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 4:29 PM José Armando García Sancio
>> > > >> >  wrote:
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > +1 for me. Thanks Colin for volunteering to be the release
>> > manager.
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 4:15 PM Ismael Juma 
>> > > wrote:
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > > Hi all,
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > > I think we should actually look at the target dates vs just
>> > > looking
>> > > >> at
>> > > >> > the
>> > > >> > > > release length. 3.9 is an August release. I suggest we aim for a
>> > > >> > November
>> > > >> > > > release for 4.0, which is 3 months (instead of 4). Why? Because
>> > > >> > December is
>> > > >> > > > a tricky month given holidays and all. And it gives us a buffer
>> > > for
>> > > >> > release
>> > > >> > > > delays that still allows for a 4.0 in 2024.
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > > Ismael
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 12:54 PM Matthias J. Sax <
>> > > mj...@apache.org>
>> > > >> > wrote:
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > > > In general I prefer to stick with the original time frame,
>> > but I
>> > > >> > believe
>> > > >> > > > > an additional month would be good for KIP-848.
>> > > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > Maybe we can cut down 2 weeks for the 4.1 and 4.2 releases
>> > > each, to
>> > > >> > make
>> > > >> > > > > up for the time? Not a must; just an idea. We can also just
>> > > accept
>> > > >> a
>> > > >> > > > > one-time shift of the release time plan -- we did not really
>> > > lose
>> > > >> the
>> > > >> > > > > time effectively, as there was one additional release.
>> > > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > -Matthias
>> > > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > On 6/17/24 12:14 PM, David Jacot wrote:
>> > > >> > > > > > +1 for the release plan. Thanks!
>> > > >> > > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > > +1 for releasing 4.0 four months after 3.9. 4.0 is actually
>> > a
>> > > >> > pretty big
>> > > >> > > > > > release as we will GA KIP-848, including new group
>> > coordinator
>> > > >> and
>> > > >> > new
>> > > >> > > > > > consumer rebalance protocol. This is a pretty big change :).
>> > > >> > > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > > Best,
>> > > >> > > > > > David
>> > > >> > > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > > Le lun. 17 juin 2024 à 20:36, Colin McCabe <
>> > > cmcc...@apache.org>
>> > > >> a
>> > > >> > écrit
>> > > >> > > > > :
>> > > >> > > > > >

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Kafka 3.9.0 release

[Federico Valeri]

Hi Colin, is it possible to include this small KIP in the release plan?

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1057%3A+Add+remote+log+metadata+flag+to+the+dump+log+tool

There is already an open PR.

Thanks.

On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 7:13 AM Nelson B.  wrote:
>
> Hi Colin,
>
> If you have time could you please have a look at KIP-1025 and cast your
> vote?
> It is currently one vote short of being accepted. Any sort of feedback
> would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 4:45 PM Mario Fiore Vitale 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Colin,
> >
> > > Do we feel that KIP-1040 can make feature freeze?
> >
> > I think yes but it all depends on the review. In any case the changes are
> > not so complex.
> >
> > Mario.
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 10:06 PM Colin McCabe  wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Mario and Nelson,
> > >
> > > Thanks for asking. Both of these KIPs can certainly go in 3.9 if we can
> > > hit the deadlines. If you need an extra day or two just ping me. (But I
> > > don't want to extend things for too long!) :)
> > >
> > > Do we feel that KIP-1040 can make feature freeze?
> > >
> > > best,
> > > Colin
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 25, 2024, at 01:48, Mario Fiore Vitale wrote:
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > Can the KIP-1040[1] be included? It is accepted and a PR review is in
> > > > progress.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1040%3A+Improve+handling+of+nullable+values+in+InsertField%2C+ExtractField%2C+and+other+transformations
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Mario.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 8:28 AM Nelson B. 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hello,
> > > >>
> > > >> Can I include KIP-1025
> > > >> <
> > > >>
> > >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1025%3A+Optionally+URL-encode+clientID+and+clientSecret+in+authorization+header
> > > >> >
> > > >> in
> > > >> this release?
> > > >> It's currently in the voting stage, I hope it can receive enough votes
> > > by
> > > >> next week.
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks.
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 5:32 AM José Armando García Sancio
> > > >>  wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > Would it be better to start a DISCUSS thread for 4.0 and keep this
> > > >> > thread for 3.9 discussions? We seem to have agreement on 3.9.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 4:29 PM José Armando García Sancio
> > > >> >  wrote:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > +1 for me. Thanks Colin for volunteering to be the release
> > manager.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 4:15 PM Ismael Juma 
> > > wrote:
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Hi all,
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > I think we should actually look at the target dates vs just
> > > looking
> > > >> at
> > > >> > the
> > > >> > > > release length. 3.9 is an August release. I suggest we aim for a
> > > >> > November
> > > >> > > > release for 4.0, which is 3 months (instead of 4). Why? Because
> > > >> > December is
> > > >> > > > a tricky month given holidays and all. And it gives us a buffer
> > > for
> > > >> > release
> > > >> > > > delays that still allows for a 4.0 in 2024.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Ismael
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 12:54 PM Matthias J. Sax <
> > > mj...@apache.org>
> > > >> > wrote:
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > > In general I prefer to stick with the original time frame,
> > but I
> > > >> > believe
> > > >> > > > > an additional month would be good for KIP-848.
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > Maybe we can cut down 2 weeks for the 4.1 and 4.2 releases
> > > each, to
> > > >> > make
> > > >> > > > > up for the time? Not a must; just an idea. We can also just
> > > accept
> > > >> a
> > > >> > > > > one-time shift of the release time plan -- we did not really
> > > lose
> > > >> the
> > > >> > > > > time effectively, as there was one additional release.
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > -Matthias
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > On 6/17/24 12:14 PM, David Jacot wrote:
> > > >> > > > > > +1 for the release plan. Thanks!
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > +1 for releasing 4.0 four months after 3.9. 4.0 is actually
> > a
> > > >> > pretty big
> > > >> > > > > > release as we will GA KIP-848, including new group
> > coordinator
> > > >> and
> > > >> > new
> > > >> > > > > > consumer rebalance protocol. This is a pretty big change :).
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > Best,
> > > >> > > > > > David
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > Le lun. 17 juin 2024 à 20:36, Colin McCabe <
> > > cmcc...@apache.org>
> > > >> a
> > > >> > écrit
> > > >> > > > > :
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > >> Hi all,
> > > >> > > > > >>
> > > >> > > > > >> Thanks, everyone.
> > > >> > > > > >>
> > > >> > > > > >> Quick update: on the release plan page, I moved feature
> > > freeze
> > > >> > forward
> > > >> > > > > and
> > > >> > > > > >> code freeze by one week to make sure we can hit that. No
> > > other
> > > >> > dates
> > > >> > > > > >> changed.
> 

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Kafka 3.9.0 release

[Nelson B.]

Hi Colin,

If you have time could you please have a look at KIP-1025 and cast your
vote?
It is currently one vote short of being accepted. Any sort of feedback
would be appreciated.

Thanks.

On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 4:45 PM Mario Fiore Vitale 
wrote:

> Hi Colin,
>
> > Do we feel that KIP-1040 can make feature freeze?
>
> I think yes but it all depends on the review. In any case the changes are
> not so complex.
>
> Mario.
>
> On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 10:06 PM Colin McCabe  wrote:
>
> > Hi Mario and Nelson,
> >
> > Thanks for asking. Both of these KIPs can certainly go in 3.9 if we can
> > hit the deadlines. If you need an extra day or two just ping me. (But I
> > don't want to extend things for too long!) :)
> >
> > Do we feel that KIP-1040 can make feature freeze?
> >
> > best,
> > Colin
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 25, 2024, at 01:48, Mario Fiore Vitale wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Can the KIP-1040[1] be included? It is accepted and a PR review is in
> > > progress.
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1040%3A+Improve+handling+of+nullable+values+in+InsertField%2C+ExtractField%2C+and+other+transformations
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Mario.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 8:28 AM Nelson B. 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hello,
> > >>
> > >> Can I include KIP-1025
> > >> <
> > >>
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1025%3A+Optionally+URL-encode+clientID+and+clientSecret+in+authorization+header
> > >> >
> > >> in
> > >> this release?
> > >> It's currently in the voting stage, I hope it can receive enough votes
> > by
> > >> next week.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks.
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 5:32 AM José Armando García Sancio
> > >>  wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Would it be better to start a DISCUSS thread for 4.0 and keep this
> > >> > thread for 3.9 discussions? We seem to have agreement on 3.9.
> > >> >
> > >> > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 4:29 PM José Armando García Sancio
> > >> >  wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > +1 for me. Thanks Colin for volunteering to be the release
> manager.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 4:15 PM Ismael Juma 
> > wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Hi all,
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > I think we should actually look at the target dates vs just
> > looking
> > >> at
> > >> > the
> > >> > > > release length. 3.9 is an August release. I suggest we aim for a
> > >> > November
> > >> > > > release for 4.0, which is 3 months (instead of 4). Why? Because
> > >> > December is
> > >> > > > a tricky month given holidays and all. And it gives us a buffer
> > for
> > >> > release
> > >> > > > delays that still allows for a 4.0 in 2024.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Ismael
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 12:54 PM Matthias J. Sax <
> > mj...@apache.org>
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > In general I prefer to stick with the original time frame,
> but I
> > >> > believe
> > >> > > > > an additional month would be good for KIP-848.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Maybe we can cut down 2 weeks for the 4.1 and 4.2 releases
> > each, to
> > >> > make
> > >> > > > > up for the time? Not a must; just an idea. We can also just
> > accept
> > >> a
> > >> > > > > one-time shift of the release time plan -- we did not really
> > lose
> > >> the
> > >> > > > > time effectively, as there was one additional release.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > -Matthias
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > On 6/17/24 12:14 PM, David Jacot wrote:
> > >> > > > > > +1 for the release plan. Thanks!
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > +1 for releasing 4.0 four months after 3.9. 4.0 is actually
> a
> > >> > pretty big
> > >> > > > > > release as we will GA KIP-848, including new group
> coordinator
> > >> and
> > >> > new
> > >> > > > > > consumer rebalance protocol. This is a pretty big change :).
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Best,
> > >> > > > > > David
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Le lun. 17 juin 2024 à 20:36, Colin McCabe <
> > cmcc...@apache.org>
> > >> a
> > >> > écrit
> > >> > > > > :
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > >> Hi all,
> > >> > > > > >>
> > >> > > > > >> Thanks, everyone.
> > >> > > > > >>
> > >> > > > > >> Quick update: on the release plan page, I moved feature
> > freeze
> > >> > forward
> > >> > > > > and
> > >> > > > > >> code freeze by one week to make sure we can hit that. No
> > other
> > >> > dates
> > >> > > > > >> changed.
> > >> > > > > >>
> > >> > > > > >> With regard to 4.0, I was assuming that we'd do it 4 months
> > >> after
> > >> > 3.9
> > >> > > > > was
> > >> > > > > >> released. I think for that release, we should front-load
> all
> > the
> > >> > "remove
> > >> > > > > >> deprecated stuff" work that has piled up, and try to really
> > hit
> > >> > all the
> > >> > > > > >> release milestone dates. I don't think 4.0 needs to be a
> very
> > >> > ambitious
> > >> > > > > >> release, it really is mostly about the removals and the new
> > JDK
> > >> > (which
> > >> > > > > are
> > >> > > > > 

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Kafka 3.9.0 release

[Mario Fiore Vitale]

Hi Colin,

> Do we feel that KIP-1040 can make feature freeze?

I think yes but it all depends on the review. In any case the changes are
not so complex.

Mario.

On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 10:06 PM Colin McCabe  wrote:

> Hi Mario and Nelson,
>
> Thanks for asking. Both of these KIPs can certainly go in 3.9 if we can
> hit the deadlines. If you need an extra day or two just ping me. (But I
> don't want to extend things for too long!) :)
>
> Do we feel that KIP-1040 can make feature freeze?
>
> best,
> Colin
>
> On Tue, Jun 25, 2024, at 01:48, Mario Fiore Vitale wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Can the KIP-1040[1] be included? It is accepted and a PR review is in
> > progress.
> >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1040%3A+Improve+handling+of+nullable+values+in+InsertField%2C+ExtractField%2C+and+other+transformations
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mario.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 8:28 AM Nelson B. 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> Can I include KIP-1025
> >> <
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1025%3A+Optionally+URL-encode+clientID+and+clientSecret+in+authorization+header
> >> >
> >> in
> >> this release?
> >> It's currently in the voting stage, I hope it can receive enough votes
> by
> >> next week.
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 5:32 AM José Armando García Sancio
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >> > Would it be better to start a DISCUSS thread for 4.0 and keep this
> >> > thread for 3.9 discussions? We seem to have agreement on 3.9.
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 4:29 PM José Armando García Sancio
> >> >  wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > +1 for me. Thanks Colin for volunteering to be the release manager.
> >> > >
> >> > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 4:15 PM Ismael Juma 
> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Hi all,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I think we should actually look at the target dates vs just
> looking
> >> at
> >> > the
> >> > > > release length. 3.9 is an August release. I suggest we aim for a
> >> > November
> >> > > > release for 4.0, which is 3 months (instead of 4). Why? Because
> >> > December is
> >> > > > a tricky month given holidays and all. And it gives us a buffer
> for
> >> > release
> >> > > > delays that still allows for a 4.0 in 2024.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Ismael
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 12:54 PM Matthias J. Sax <
> mj...@apache.org>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > In general I prefer to stick with the original time frame, but I
> >> > believe
> >> > > > > an additional month would be good for KIP-848.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Maybe we can cut down 2 weeks for the 4.1 and 4.2 releases
> each, to
> >> > make
> >> > > > > up for the time? Not a must; just an idea. We can also just
> accept
> >> a
> >> > > > > one-time shift of the release time plan -- we did not really
> lose
> >> the
> >> > > > > time effectively, as there was one additional release.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > -Matthias
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > On 6/17/24 12:14 PM, David Jacot wrote:
> >> > > > > > +1 for the release plan. Thanks!
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > +1 for releasing 4.0 four months after 3.9. 4.0 is actually a
> >> > pretty big
> >> > > > > > release as we will GA KIP-848, including new group coordinator
> >> and
> >> > new
> >> > > > > > consumer rebalance protocol. This is a pretty big change :).
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Best,
> >> > > > > > David
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Le lun. 17 juin 2024 à 20:36, Colin McCabe <
> cmcc...@apache.org>
> >> a
> >> > écrit
> >> > > > > :
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >> Hi all,
> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >> Thanks, everyone.
> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >> Quick update: on the release plan page, I moved feature
> freeze
> >> > forward
> >> > > > > and
> >> > > > > >> code freeze by one week to make sure we can hit that. No
> other
> >> > dates
> >> > > > > >> changed.
> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >> With regard to 4.0, I was assuming that we'd do it 4 months
> >> after
> >> > 3.9
> >> > > > > was
> >> > > > > >> released. I think for that release, we should front-load all
> the
> >> > "remove
> >> > > > > >> deprecated stuff" work that has piled up, and try to really
> hit
> >> > all the
> >> > > > > >> release milestone dates. I don't think 4.0 needs to be a very
> >> > ambitious
> >> > > > > >> release, it really is mostly about the removals and the new
> JDK
> >> > (which
> >> > > > > are
> >> > > > > >> a big deal, but I hope should fit within the normal
> timeframes).
> >> > That
> >> > > > > being
> >> > > > > >> said, if people want a shorter 4.0, I'm open to that, as
> long as
> >> > we're
> >> > > > > >> confident we could actually do that :)
> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >> best,
> >> > > > > >> Colin
> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >> On Fri, Jun 14, 2024, at 20:56, Sophie Blee-Goldman wrote:
> >> > > > > >>> +1, thank you Colin
> >> > > > > >>>
> >> > > > > >>> Given the July freeze deadlines, I take it we are going with
> >> the
> >> > "short

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Kafka 3.9.0 release

[Colin McCabe]

Hi Mario and Nelson,

Thanks for asking. Both of these KIPs can certainly go in 3.9 if we can hit the 
deadlines. If you need an extra day or two just ping me. (But I don't want to 
extend things for too long!) :)

Do we feel that KIP-1040 can make feature freeze?

best,
Colin

On Tue, Jun 25, 2024, at 01:48, Mario Fiore Vitale wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Can the KIP-1040[1] be included? It is accepted and a PR review is in
> progress.
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1040%3A+Improve+handling+of+nullable+values+in+InsertField%2C+ExtractField%2C+and+other+transformations
>
> Thanks,
> Mario.
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 8:28 AM Nelson B.  wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Can I include KIP-1025
>> <
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1025%3A+Optionally+URL-encode+clientID+and+clientSecret+in+authorization+header
>> >
>> in
>> this release?
>> It's currently in the voting stage, I hope it can receive enough votes by
>> next week.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 5:32 AM José Armando García Sancio
>>  wrote:
>>
>> > Would it be better to start a DISCUSS thread for 4.0 and keep this
>> > thread for 3.9 discussions? We seem to have agreement on 3.9.
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 4:29 PM José Armando García Sancio
>> >  wrote:
>> > >
>> > > +1 for me. Thanks Colin for volunteering to be the release manager.
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 4:15 PM Ismael Juma  wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Hi all,
>> > > >
>> > > > I think we should actually look at the target dates vs just looking
>> at
>> > the
>> > > > release length. 3.9 is an August release. I suggest we aim for a
>> > November
>> > > > release for 4.0, which is 3 months (instead of 4). Why? Because
>> > December is
>> > > > a tricky month given holidays and all. And it gives us a buffer for
>> > release
>> > > > delays that still allows for a 4.0 in 2024.
>> > > >
>> > > > Ismael
>> > > >
>> > > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 12:54 PM Matthias J. Sax 
>> > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > In general I prefer to stick with the original time frame, but I
>> > believe
>> > > > > an additional month would be good for KIP-848.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Maybe we can cut down 2 weeks for the 4.1 and 4.2 releases each, to
>> > make
>> > > > > up for the time? Not a must; just an idea. We can also just accept
>> a
>> > > > > one-time shift of the release time plan -- we did not really lose
>> the
>> > > > > time effectively, as there was one additional release.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > -Matthias
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On 6/17/24 12:14 PM, David Jacot wrote:
>> > > > > > +1 for the release plan. Thanks!
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > +1 for releasing 4.0 four months after 3.9. 4.0 is actually a
>> > pretty big
>> > > > > > release as we will GA KIP-848, including new group coordinator
>> and
>> > new
>> > > > > > consumer rebalance protocol. This is a pretty big change :).
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Best,
>> > > > > > David
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Le lun. 17 juin 2024 à 20:36, Colin McCabe 
>> a
>> > écrit
>> > > > > :
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >> Hi all,
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> Thanks, everyone.
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> Quick update: on the release plan page, I moved feature freeze
>> > forward
>> > > > > and
>> > > > > >> code freeze by one week to make sure we can hit that. No other
>> > dates
>> > > > > >> changed.
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> With regard to 4.0, I was assuming that we'd do it 4 months
>> after
>> > 3.9
>> > > > > was
>> > > > > >> released. I think for that release, we should front-load all the
>> > "remove
>> > > > > >> deprecated stuff" work that has piled up, and try to really hit
>> > all the
>> > > > > >> release milestone dates. I don't think 4.0 needs to be a very
>> > ambitious
>> > > > > >> release, it really is mostly about the removals and the new JDK
>> > (which
>> > > > > are
>> > > > > >> a big deal, but I hope should fit within the normal timeframes).
>> > That
>> > > > > being
>> > > > > >> said, if people want a shorter 4.0, I'm open to that, as long as
>> > we're
>> > > > > >> confident we could actually do that :)
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> best,
>> > > > > >> Colin
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> On Fri, Jun 14, 2024, at 20:56, Sophie Blee-Goldman wrote:
>> > > > > >>> +1, thank you Colin
>> > > > > >>>
>> > > > > >>> Given the July freeze deadlines, I take it we are going with
>> the
>> > "short
>> > > > > >>> 3.9.0 release" option and that the existence of this release
>> will
>> > > > > impact
>> > > > > >>> the 4.0.0 deadlines which will still follow the usual schedule
>> > -- in
>> > > > > >> other
>> > > > > >>> words, this is an "additional release" outside of the regular
>> > timeline.
>> > > > > >> Is
>> > > > > >>> this understanding correct?
>> > > > > >>>
>> > > > > >>> On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 5:57 PM Chia-Ping Tsai <
>> > chia7...@gmail.com>
>> > > > > >> wrote:
>> > > > > >>>
>> > > > >  +1 thanks Colin!
>> > > > > 
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Kafka 3.9.0 release

[Mario Fiore Vitale]

Hi all,

Can the KIP-1040[1] be included? It is accepted and a PR review is in
progress.

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1040%3A+Improve+handling+of+nullable+values+in+InsertField%2C+ExtractField%2C+and+other+transformations

Thanks,
Mario.


On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 8:28 AM Nelson B.  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Can I include KIP-1025
> <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1025%3A+Optionally+URL-encode+clientID+and+clientSecret+in+authorization+header
> >
> in
> this release?
> It's currently in the voting stage, I hope it can receive enough votes by
> next week.
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 5:32 AM José Armando García Sancio
>  wrote:
>
> > Would it be better to start a DISCUSS thread for 4.0 and keep this
> > thread for 3.9 discussions? We seem to have agreement on 3.9.
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 4:29 PM José Armando García Sancio
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > +1 for me. Thanks Colin for volunteering to be the release manager.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 4:15 PM Ismael Juma  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > I think we should actually look at the target dates vs just looking
> at
> > the
> > > > release length. 3.9 is an August release. I suggest we aim for a
> > November
> > > > release for 4.0, which is 3 months (instead of 4). Why? Because
> > December is
> > > > a tricky month given holidays and all. And it gives us a buffer for
> > release
> > > > delays that still allows for a 4.0 in 2024.
> > > >
> > > > Ismael
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 12:54 PM Matthias J. Sax 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > In general I prefer to stick with the original time frame, but I
> > believe
> > > > > an additional month would be good for KIP-848.
> > > > >
> > > > > Maybe we can cut down 2 weeks for the 4.1 and 4.2 releases each, to
> > make
> > > > > up for the time? Not a must; just an idea. We can also just accept
> a
> > > > > one-time shift of the release time plan -- we did not really lose
> the
> > > > > time effectively, as there was one additional release.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -Matthias
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 6/17/24 12:14 PM, David Jacot wrote:
> > > > > > +1 for the release plan. Thanks!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > +1 for releasing 4.0 four months after 3.9. 4.0 is actually a
> > pretty big
> > > > > > release as we will GA KIP-848, including new group coordinator
> and
> > new
> > > > > > consumer rebalance protocol. This is a pretty big change :).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > David
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Le lun. 17 juin 2024 à 20:36, Colin McCabe 
> a
> > écrit
> > > > > :
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Hi all,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Thanks, everyone.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Quick update: on the release plan page, I moved feature freeze
> > forward
> > > > > and
> > > > > >> code freeze by one week to make sure we can hit that. No other
> > dates
> > > > > >> changed.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> With regard to 4.0, I was assuming that we'd do it 4 months
> after
> > 3.9
> > > > > was
> > > > > >> released. I think for that release, we should front-load all the
> > "remove
> > > > > >> deprecated stuff" work that has piled up, and try to really hit
> > all the
> > > > > >> release milestone dates. I don't think 4.0 needs to be a very
> > ambitious
> > > > > >> release, it really is mostly about the removals and the new JDK
> > (which
> > > > > are
> > > > > >> a big deal, but I hope should fit within the normal timeframes).
> > That
> > > > > being
> > > > > >> said, if people want a shorter 4.0, I'm open to that, as long as
> > we're
> > > > > >> confident we could actually do that :)
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> best,
> > > > > >> Colin
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Fri, Jun 14, 2024, at 20:56, Sophie Blee-Goldman wrote:
> > > > > >>> +1, thank you Colin
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Given the July freeze deadlines, I take it we are going with
> the
> > "short
> > > > > >>> 3.9.0 release" option and that the existence of this release
> will
> > > > > impact
> > > > > >>> the 4.0.0 deadlines which will still follow the usual schedule
> > -- in
> > > > > >> other
> > > > > >>> words, this is an "additional release" outside of the regular
> > timeline.
> > > > > >> Is
> > > > > >>> this understanding correct?
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 5:57 PM Chia-Ping Tsai <
> > chia7...@gmail.com>
> > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > >  +1 thanks Colin!
> > > > > 
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > -José
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > -José
> >
>


-- 

Mario Fiore Vitale

Senior Software Engineer

Red Hat 

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Kafka 3.9.0 release

[Nelson B.]

Hello,

Can I include KIP-1025

in
this release?
It's currently in the voting stage, I hope it can receive enough votes by
next week.

Thanks.

On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 5:32 AM José Armando García Sancio
 wrote:

> Would it be better to start a DISCUSS thread for 4.0 and keep this
> thread for 3.9 discussions? We seem to have agreement on 3.9.
>
> On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 4:29 PM José Armando García Sancio
>  wrote:
> >
> > +1 for me. Thanks Colin for volunteering to be the release manager.
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 4:15 PM Ismael Juma  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I think we should actually look at the target dates vs just looking at
> the
> > > release length. 3.9 is an August release. I suggest we aim for a
> November
> > > release for 4.0, which is 3 months (instead of 4). Why? Because
> December is
> > > a tricky month given holidays and all. And it gives us a buffer for
> release
> > > delays that still allows for a 4.0 in 2024.
> > >
> > > Ismael
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 12:54 PM Matthias J. Sax 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > In general I prefer to stick with the original time frame, but I
> believe
> > > > an additional month would be good for KIP-848.
> > > >
> > > > Maybe we can cut down 2 weeks for the 4.1 and 4.2 releases each, to
> make
> > > > up for the time? Not a must; just an idea. We can also just accept a
> > > > one-time shift of the release time plan -- we did not really lose the
> > > > time effectively, as there was one additional release.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -Matthias
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 6/17/24 12:14 PM, David Jacot wrote:
> > > > > +1 for the release plan. Thanks!
> > > > >
> > > > > +1 for releasing 4.0 four months after 3.9. 4.0 is actually a
> pretty big
> > > > > release as we will GA KIP-848, including new group coordinator and
> new
> > > > > consumer rebalance protocol. This is a pretty big change :).
> > > > >
> > > > > Best,
> > > > > David
> > > > >
> > > > > Le lun. 17 juin 2024 à 20:36, Colin McCabe  a
> écrit
> > > > :
> > > > >
> > > > >> Hi all,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Thanks, everyone.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Quick update: on the release plan page, I moved feature freeze
> forward
> > > > and
> > > > >> code freeze by one week to make sure we can hit that. No other
> dates
> > > > >> changed.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> With regard to 4.0, I was assuming that we'd do it 4 months after
> 3.9
> > > > was
> > > > >> released. I think for that release, we should front-load all the
> "remove
> > > > >> deprecated stuff" work that has piled up, and try to really hit
> all the
> > > > >> release milestone dates. I don't think 4.0 needs to be a very
> ambitious
> > > > >> release, it really is mostly about the removals and the new JDK
> (which
> > > > are
> > > > >> a big deal, but I hope should fit within the normal timeframes).
> That
> > > > being
> > > > >> said, if people want a shorter 4.0, I'm open to that, as long as
> we're
> > > > >> confident we could actually do that :)
> > > > >>
> > > > >> best,
> > > > >> Colin
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Fri, Jun 14, 2024, at 20:56, Sophie Blee-Goldman wrote:
> > > > >>> +1, thank you Colin
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Given the July freeze deadlines, I take it we are going with the
> "short
> > > > >>> 3.9.0 release" option and that the existence of this release will
> > > > impact
> > > > >>> the 4.0.0 deadlines which will still follow the usual schedule
> -- in
> > > > >> other
> > > > >>> words, this is an "additional release" outside of the regular
> timeline.
> > > > >> Is
> > > > >>> this understanding correct?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 5:57 PM Chia-Ping Tsai <
> chia7...@gmail.com>
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > >  +1 thanks Colin!
> > > > 
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > -José
>
>
>
> --
> -José
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Kafka 3.9.0 release

[José Armando García Sancio]

Would it be better to start a DISCUSS thread for 4.0 and keep this
thread for 3.9 discussions? We seem to have agreement on 3.9.

On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 4:29 PM José Armando García Sancio
 wrote:
>
> +1 for me. Thanks Colin for volunteering to be the release manager.
>
> On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 4:15 PM Ismael Juma  wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I think we should actually look at the target dates vs just looking at the
> > release length. 3.9 is an August release. I suggest we aim for a November
> > release for 4.0, which is 3 months (instead of 4). Why? Because December is
> > a tricky month given holidays and all. And it gives us a buffer for release
> > delays that still allows for a 4.0 in 2024.
> >
> > Ismael
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 12:54 PM Matthias J. Sax  wrote:
> >
> > > In general I prefer to stick with the original time frame, but I believe
> > > an additional month would be good for KIP-848.
> > >
> > > Maybe we can cut down 2 weeks for the 4.1 and 4.2 releases each, to make
> > > up for the time? Not a must; just an idea. We can also just accept a
> > > one-time shift of the release time plan -- we did not really lose the
> > > time effectively, as there was one additional release.
> > >
> > >
> > > -Matthias
> > >
> > >
> > > On 6/17/24 12:14 PM, David Jacot wrote:
> > > > +1 for the release plan. Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > +1 for releasing 4.0 four months after 3.9. 4.0 is actually a pretty big
> > > > release as we will GA KIP-848, including new group coordinator and new
> > > > consumer rebalance protocol. This is a pretty big change :).
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > David
> > > >
> > > > Le lun. 17 juin 2024 à 20:36, Colin McCabe  a écrit
> > > :
> > > >
> > > >> Hi all,
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks, everyone.
> > > >>
> > > >> Quick update: on the release plan page, I moved feature freeze forward
> > > and
> > > >> code freeze by one week to make sure we can hit that. No other dates
> > > >> changed.
> > > >>
> > > >> With regard to 4.0, I was assuming that we'd do it 4 months after 3.9
> > > was
> > > >> released. I think for that release, we should front-load all the 
> > > >> "remove
> > > >> deprecated stuff" work that has piled up, and try to really hit all the
> > > >> release milestone dates. I don't think 4.0 needs to be a very ambitious
> > > >> release, it really is mostly about the removals and the new JDK (which
> > > are
> > > >> a big deal, but I hope should fit within the normal timeframes). That
> > > being
> > > >> said, if people want a shorter 4.0, I'm open to that, as long as we're
> > > >> confident we could actually do that :)
> > > >>
> > > >> best,
> > > >> Colin
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Fri, Jun 14, 2024, at 20:56, Sophie Blee-Goldman wrote:
> > > >>> +1, thank you Colin
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Given the July freeze deadlines, I take it we are going with the 
> > > >>> "short
> > > >>> 3.9.0 release" option and that the existence of this release will
> > > impact
> > > >>> the 4.0.0 deadlines which will still follow the usual schedule -- in
> > > >> other
> > > >>> words, this is an "additional release" outside of the regular 
> > > >>> timeline.
> > > >> Is
> > > >>> this understanding correct?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 5:57 PM Chia-Ping Tsai 
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > >  +1 thanks Colin!
> > > 
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
>
>
>
> --
> -José



-- 
-José

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Kafka 3.9.0 release

[José Armando García Sancio]

+1 for me. Thanks Colin for volunteering to be the release manager.

On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 4:15 PM Ismael Juma  wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I think we should actually look at the target dates vs just looking at the
> release length. 3.9 is an August release. I suggest we aim for a November
> release for 4.0, which is 3 months (instead of 4). Why? Because December is
> a tricky month given holidays and all. And it gives us a buffer for release
> delays that still allows for a 4.0 in 2024.
>
> Ismael
>
> On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 12:54 PM Matthias J. Sax  wrote:
>
> > In general I prefer to stick with the original time frame, but I believe
> > an additional month would be good for KIP-848.
> >
> > Maybe we can cut down 2 weeks for the 4.1 and 4.2 releases each, to make
> > up for the time? Not a must; just an idea. We can also just accept a
> > one-time shift of the release time plan -- we did not really lose the
> > time effectively, as there was one additional release.
> >
> >
> > -Matthias
> >
> >
> > On 6/17/24 12:14 PM, David Jacot wrote:
> > > +1 for the release plan. Thanks!
> > >
> > > +1 for releasing 4.0 four months after 3.9. 4.0 is actually a pretty big
> > > release as we will GA KIP-848, including new group coordinator and new
> > > consumer rebalance protocol. This is a pretty big change :).
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > David
> > >
> > > Le lun. 17 juin 2024 à 20:36, Colin McCabe  a écrit
> > :
> > >
> > >> Hi all,
> > >>
> > >> Thanks, everyone.
> > >>
> > >> Quick update: on the release plan page, I moved feature freeze forward
> > and
> > >> code freeze by one week to make sure we can hit that. No other dates
> > >> changed.
> > >>
> > >> With regard to 4.0, I was assuming that we'd do it 4 months after 3.9
> > was
> > >> released. I think for that release, we should front-load all the "remove
> > >> deprecated stuff" work that has piled up, and try to really hit all the
> > >> release milestone dates. I don't think 4.0 needs to be a very ambitious
> > >> release, it really is mostly about the removals and the new JDK (which
> > are
> > >> a big deal, but I hope should fit within the normal timeframes). That
> > being
> > >> said, if people want a shorter 4.0, I'm open to that, as long as we're
> > >> confident we could actually do that :)
> > >>
> > >> best,
> > >> Colin
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, Jun 14, 2024, at 20:56, Sophie Blee-Goldman wrote:
> > >>> +1, thank you Colin
> > >>>
> > >>> Given the July freeze deadlines, I take it we are going with the "short
> > >>> 3.9.0 release" option and that the existence of this release will
> > impact
> > >>> the 4.0.0 deadlines which will still follow the usual schedule -- in
> > >> other
> > >>> words, this is an "additional release" outside of the regular timeline.
> > >> Is
> > >>> this understanding correct?
> > >>>
> > >>> On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 5:57 PM Chia-Ping Tsai 
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>
> >  +1 thanks Colin!
> > 
> > >>
> > >
> >



-- 
-José

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Kafka 3.9.0 release

[Ismael Juma]

Hi all,

I think we should actually look at the target dates vs just looking at the
release length. 3.9 is an August release. I suggest we aim for a November
release for 4.0, which is 3 months (instead of 4). Why? Because December is
a tricky month given holidays and all. And it gives us a buffer for release
delays that still allows for a 4.0 in 2024.

Ismael

On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 12:54 PM Matthias J. Sax  wrote:

> In general I prefer to stick with the original time frame, but I believe
> an additional month would be good for KIP-848.
>
> Maybe we can cut down 2 weeks for the 4.1 and 4.2 releases each, to make
> up for the time? Not a must; just an idea. We can also just accept a
> one-time shift of the release time plan -- we did not really lose the
> time effectively, as there was one additional release.
>
>
> -Matthias
>
>
> On 6/17/24 12:14 PM, David Jacot wrote:
> > +1 for the release plan. Thanks!
> >
> > +1 for releasing 4.0 four months after 3.9. 4.0 is actually a pretty big
> > release as we will GA KIP-848, including new group coordinator and new
> > consumer rebalance protocol. This is a pretty big change :).
> >
> > Best,
> > David
> >
> > Le lun. 17 juin 2024 à 20:36, Colin McCabe  a écrit
> :
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Thanks, everyone.
> >>
> >> Quick update: on the release plan page, I moved feature freeze forward
> and
> >> code freeze by one week to make sure we can hit that. No other dates
> >> changed.
> >>
> >> With regard to 4.0, I was assuming that we'd do it 4 months after 3.9
> was
> >> released. I think for that release, we should front-load all the "remove
> >> deprecated stuff" work that has piled up, and try to really hit all the
> >> release milestone dates. I don't think 4.0 needs to be a very ambitious
> >> release, it really is mostly about the removals and the new JDK (which
> are
> >> a big deal, but I hope should fit within the normal timeframes). That
> being
> >> said, if people want a shorter 4.0, I'm open to that, as long as we're
> >> confident we could actually do that :)
> >>
> >> best,
> >> Colin
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jun 14, 2024, at 20:56, Sophie Blee-Goldman wrote:
> >>> +1, thank you Colin
> >>>
> >>> Given the July freeze deadlines, I take it we are going with the "short
> >>> 3.9.0 release" option and that the existence of this release will
> impact
> >>> the 4.0.0 deadlines which will still follow the usual schedule -- in
> >> other
> >>> words, this is an "additional release" outside of the regular timeline.
> >> Is
> >>> this understanding correct?
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 5:57 PM Chia-Ping Tsai 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
>  +1 thanks Colin!
> 
> >>
> >
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Kafka 3.9.0 release

[Matthias J. Sax]

In general I prefer to stick with the original time frame, but I believe 
an additional month would be good for KIP-848.


Maybe we can cut down 2 weeks for the 4.1 and 4.2 releases each, to make 
up for the time? Not a must; just an idea. We can also just accept a 
one-time shift of the release time plan -- we did not really lose the 
time effectively, as there was one additional release.



-Matthias


On 6/17/24 12:14 PM, David Jacot wrote:

+1 for the release plan. Thanks!

+1 for releasing 4.0 four months after 3.9. 4.0 is actually a pretty big
release as we will GA KIP-848, including new group coordinator and new
consumer rebalance protocol. This is a pretty big change :).

Best,
David

Le lun. 17 juin 2024 à 20:36, Colin McCabe  a écrit :


Hi all,

Thanks, everyone.

Quick update: on the release plan page, I moved feature freeze forward and
code freeze by one week to make sure we can hit that. No other dates
changed.

With regard to 4.0, I was assuming that we'd do it 4 months after 3.9 was
released. I think for that release, we should front-load all the "remove
deprecated stuff" work that has piled up, and try to really hit all the
release milestone dates. I don't think 4.0 needs to be a very ambitious
release, it really is mostly about the removals and the new JDK (which are
a big deal, but I hope should fit within the normal timeframes). That being
said, if people want a shorter 4.0, I'm open to that, as long as we're
confident we could actually do that :)

best,
Colin


On Fri, Jun 14, 2024, at 20:56, Sophie Blee-Goldman wrote:

+1, thank you Colin

Given the July freeze deadlines, I take it we are going with the "short
3.9.0 release" option and that the existence of this release will impact
the 4.0.0 deadlines which will still follow the usual schedule -- in

other

words, this is an "additional release" outside of the regular timeline.

Is

this understanding correct?

On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 5:57 PM Chia-Ping Tsai 

wrote:



+1 thanks Colin!

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Kafka 3.9.0 release

[David Jacot]

+1 for the release plan. Thanks!

+1 for releasing 4.0 four months after 3.9. 4.0 is actually a pretty big
release as we will GA KIP-848, including new group coordinator and new
consumer rebalance protocol. This is a pretty big change :).

Best,
David

Le lun. 17 juin 2024 à 20:36, Colin McCabe  a écrit :

> Hi all,
>
> Thanks, everyone.
>
> Quick update: on the release plan page, I moved feature freeze forward and
> code freeze by one week to make sure we can hit that. No other dates
> changed.
>
> With regard to 4.0, I was assuming that we'd do it 4 months after 3.9 was
> released. I think for that release, we should front-load all the "remove
> deprecated stuff" work that has piled up, and try to really hit all the
> release milestone dates. I don't think 4.0 needs to be a very ambitious
> release, it really is mostly about the removals and the new JDK (which are
> a big deal, but I hope should fit within the normal timeframes). That being
> said, if people want a shorter 4.0, I'm open to that, as long as we're
> confident we could actually do that :)
>
> best,
> Colin
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 14, 2024, at 20:56, Sophie Blee-Goldman wrote:
> > +1, thank you Colin
> >
> > Given the July freeze deadlines, I take it we are going with the "short
> > 3.9.0 release" option and that the existence of this release will impact
> > the 4.0.0 deadlines which will still follow the usual schedule -- in
> other
> > words, this is an "additional release" outside of the regular timeline.
> Is
> > this understanding correct?
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 5:57 PM Chia-Ping Tsai 
> wrote:
> >
> >> +1 thanks Colin!
> >>
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Kafka 3.9.0 release

[Colin McCabe]

Hi all,

Thanks, everyone.

Quick update: on the release plan page, I moved feature freeze forward and code 
freeze by one week to make sure we can hit that. No other dates changed.

With regard to 4.0, I was assuming that we'd do it 4 months after 3.9 was 
released. I think for that release, we should front-load all the "remove 
deprecated stuff" work that has piled up, and try to really hit all the release 
milestone dates. I don't think 4.0 needs to be a very ambitious release, it 
really is mostly about the removals and the new JDK (which are a big deal, but 
I hope should fit within the normal timeframes). That being said, if people 
want a shorter 4.0, I'm open to that, as long as we're confident we could 
actually do that :)

best,
Colin


On Fri, Jun 14, 2024, at 20:56, Sophie Blee-Goldman wrote:
> +1, thank you Colin
>
> Given the July freeze deadlines, I take it we are going with the "short
> 3.9.0 release" option and that the existence of this release will impact
> the 4.0.0 deadlines which will still follow the usual schedule -- in other
> words, this is an "additional release" outside of the regular timeline.  Is
> this understanding correct?
>
> On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 5:57 PM Chia-Ping Tsai  wrote:
>
>> +1 thanks Colin!
>>

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Kafka 3.9.0 release

[Sophie Blee-Goldman]

+1, thank you Colin

Given the July freeze deadlines, I take it we are going with the "short
3.9.0 release" option and that the existence of this release will impact
the 4.0.0 deadlines which will still follow the usual schedule -- in other
words, this is an "additional release" outside of the regular timeline.  Is
this understanding correct?

On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 5:57 PM Chia-Ping Tsai  wrote:

> +1 thanks Colin!
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Kafka 3.9.0 release

[Chia-Ping Tsai]

+1 thanks Colin!

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Kafka 3.9.0 release

[Colin McCabe]

Thanks, Matthias. I did a quick sweep just now and moved a bunch of things that 
have already been implemented in trunk into 3.9. Interestingly, more than half 
of the list seems to be "remove deprecated thing X", which is genuinely a 4.0 
issue :)

I suppose we will be grooming the 3.8 JIRA backlog soon as well. I expect most 
of that stuff to get shifted to 3.9 unless it truly is a blocker.

best,
Colin

On Fri, Jun 14, 2024, at 15:48, Matthias J. Sax wrote:
> +1
>
> Btw: I just looked into Jira, and we have 90 tickets with "fixed 
> version" set to 4.0.0. I would assume that most of them need to be 
> updated to 3.9.0?
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-16924?jql=project%20%3D%20KAFKA%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%204.0.0
>
> For anybody who has context on any of these tickets, please take a look 
> and update them.
>
> I think Colin as RM should double check this list shortly before the 3.9 
> release, and it should hopefully be much shorter.
>
>
> -Matthias
>
> On 6/14/24 12:32 PM, Ismael Juma wrote:
>> +1, thanks Colin.
>> 
>> Ismael
>> 
>> On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 10:55 AM Colin McCabe  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Based on the discussion in the 3.8 release thread, we will need a 3.9
>>> release. I guess I should create a new email thread to discuss this.
>>>
>>> I'd like to volunteer as release manager for the Apache Kafka 3.9.0
>>> release. There's a release plan here:
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+3.9.0
>>>
>>> best,
>>> Colin
>>>
>>

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Kafka 3.9.0 release

[Matthias J. Sax]

+1

Btw: I just looked into Jira, and we have 90 tickets with "fixed 
version" set to 4.0.0. I would assume that most of them need to be 
updated to 3.9.0?


https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-16924?jql=project%20%3D%20KAFKA%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%204.0.0

For anybody who has context on any of these tickets, please take a look 
and update them.


I think Colin as RM should double check this list shortly before the 3.9 
release, and it should hopefully be much shorter.



-Matthias

On 6/14/24 12:32 PM, Ismael Juma wrote:

+1, thanks Colin.

Ismael

On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 10:55 AM Colin McCabe  wrote:


Hi all,

Based on the discussion in the 3.8 release thread, we will need a 3.9
release. I guess I should create a new email thread to discuss this.

I'd like to volunteer as release manager for the Apache Kafka 3.9.0
release. There's a release plan here:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+3.9.0

best,
Colin

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Kafka 3.9.0 release

[Ismael Juma]

+1, thanks Colin.

Ismael

On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 10:55 AM Colin McCabe  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Based on the discussion in the 3.8 release thread, we will need a 3.9
> release. I guess I should create a new email thread to discuss this.
>
> I'd like to volunteer as release manager for the Apache Kafka 3.9.0
> release. There's a release plan here:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+3.9.0
>
> best,
> Colin
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Kafka 3.9.0 release

[Josep Prat]

+1 from me. Thanks Colin!

Best,

--
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Open Source Engineering Director, Aiven
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Aiven Deutschland GmbH
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On Fri, Jun 14, 2024, 20:00 Alyssa Huang 
wrote:

> Thanks Colin, +1 from me.
>
> On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 10:55 AM Colin McCabe  wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Based on the discussion in the 3.8 release thread, we will need a 3.9
> > release. I guess I should create a new email thread to discuss this.
> >
> > I'd like to volunteer as release manager for the Apache Kafka 3.9.0
> > release. There's a release plan here:
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+3.9.0
> >
> > best,
> > Colin
> >
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Kafka 3.9.0 release

[Alyssa Huang]

Thanks Colin, +1 from me.

On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 10:55 AM Colin McCabe  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Based on the discussion in the 3.8 release thread, we will need a 3.9
> release. I guess I should create a new email thread to discuss this.
>
> I'd like to volunteer as release manager for the Apache Kafka 3.9.0
> release. There's a release plan here:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+3.9.0
>
> best,
> Colin
>

[DISCUSS] Apache Kafka 3.9.0 release

[Colin McCabe]

Hi all,

Based on the discussion in the 3.8 release thread, we will need a 3.9 release. 
I guess I should create a new email thread to discuss this.

I'd like to volunteer as release manager for the Apache Kafka 3.9.0 release. 
There's a release plan here: 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+3.9.0

best,
Colin