Re: [l10n-dev] Translatable contents extraction ?

2008-03-10 Thread Reiko Saito

Hi Friedel,

 pofilter and pomerge will help you do this. In fact, if you send your
 translations right back to Pootle, you can just upload the translated
 subsets when you upload (as long as you don't choose overwrite when
 you download. The default behaviour should be merge, which is what you
 want.


Thanks!
I confirmed they worked well.

After merging the fuzzy/new back to the original,
should I remove #,fuzzy comment ?

Anything I should do before I upload the files back to Pootle ?

Regards,

-Reiko


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Re: [l10n-dev] Translatable contents extraction ?

2008-03-10 Thread Ain Vagula
Fuzzy means 'not approved'. You can remove 'fuzzy' when you are sure
that translation is valid. In opposite case unusable sdf file will be
generated (usually because tag mismatches in helpcontent2).

ain

On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Reiko Saito [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Friedel,

pofilter and pomerge will help you do this. In fact, if you send your
translations right back to Pootle, you can just upload the translated
subsets when you upload (as long as you don't choose overwrite when
you download. The default behaviour should be merge, which is what you
want.
   

  Thanks!
  I confirmed they worked well.

  After merging the fuzzy/new back to the original,
  should I remove #,fuzzy comment ?

  Anything I should do before I upload the files back to Pootle ?

  Regards,

  -Reiko


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Re: [l10n-dev] Translatable contents extraction ?

2008-03-10 Thread F Wolff
Op Maandag 2008-02-25 skryf Aijin Kim:
 Hi Friedel,
 
 F Wolff 쓴 글:
  Op Maandag 2008-02-25 skryf Jean-Christophe Helary:

  Is it possible to only have the PO parts that need translation/ 
  updating and not the whole set ?
 
  All the already translated parts are irrelevant to the translation  
  itself (except when used as translation memories).
 
  Is there a simple tool that can extract the translation data and later  
  merge the translated data ?
  
 
 
  pofilter and pomerge will help you do this. In fact, if you send your
  translations right back to Pootle, you can just upload the translated
  subsets when you upload (as long as you don't choose overwrite when
  you download. The default behaviour should be merge, which is what you
  want.

 
 I could see the 'merge' processing takes very long time and most of the
 resource of the server machine. It is serious if the uploaded file is
 large because the server is frozen until the processing is completed.
 
 Is it possible to merge off-line and upload the merged file with
 'overwrite' option?
 
 Thanks,
 Aijin

I identified a possible area of speed improvement in the upload merging
code. If anybody is interested in a small programming project, I can
point them to the code in question. It will need quite a bit of testing
to which I can't quite devote enough time right now.

One can use pomerge offline to do the merging. This will of course
blindly overwrite existing translations in the template (old)
translations files. Pootle does more by checking for conflicts, changing
things conflicts into suggestions, etc. This is partly why it also takes
longer. If people know what they do, of course there are some shortcuts
that can be taken. But please, make sure that people understand that
overwrite really means overwrite - the previous file is gone (unless
we start using some underlying version control system for the PO files
on the server).

Friedel


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Re: [l10n-dev] Translatable contents extraction ?

2008-02-25 Thread Jean-Christophe Helary

Thank you very much Friedel.

Is there a simple tool that can extract the translation data and  
later

merge the translated data ?



pofilter and pomerge will help you do this. In fact, if you send your
translations right back to Pootle, you can just upload the translated
subsets when you upload (as long as you don't choose overwrite when
you download. The default behaviour should be merge, which is what  
you

want.



Reiko, I think we have a solution now :)

We can do an extraction on the PO files, translate the text in OmegaT  
with the TMX Rafaela provided us with and check that within OmegaT,  
then merge the translated files to the original package :)


JC

On 25 févr. 08, at 16:41, F Wolff wrote:


Op Maandag 2008-02-25 skryf Jean-Christophe Helary:

Is it possible to only have the PO parts that need translation/
updating and not the whole set ?

All the already translated parts are irrelevant to the translation
itself (except when used as translation memories).

Is there a simple tool that can extract the translation data and  
later

merge the translated data ?



pofilter and pomerge will help you do this. In fact, if you send your
translations right back to Pootle, you can just upload the translated
subsets when you upload (as long as you don't choose overwrite when
you download. The default behaviour should be merge, which is what  
you

want.

http://translate.sourceforge.net/wiki/toolkit/pofilter
http://translate.sourceforge.net/wiki/toolkit/pomerge

You can download a ZIP file of all the PO files in the project/ 
directory

where you want to do this. You are interested in pofilter
--test=untranslated, but the page above will give more information on
the command line use.

Friedel


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Re: [l10n-dev] Translatable contents extraction ?

2008-02-25 Thread Aijin Kim
Hi Friedel,

F Wolff 쓴 글:
 Op Maandag 2008-02-25 skryf Jean-Christophe Helary:
   
 Is it possible to only have the PO parts that need translation/ 
 updating and not the whole set ?

 All the already translated parts are irrelevant to the translation  
 itself (except when used as translation memories).

 Is there a simple tool that can extract the translation data and later  
 merge the translated data ?
 


 pofilter and pomerge will help you do this. In fact, if you send your
 translations right back to Pootle, you can just upload the translated
 subsets when you upload (as long as you don't choose overwrite when
 you download. The default behaviour should be merge, which is what you
 want.
   

I could see the 'merge' processing takes very long time and most of the
resource of the server machine. It is serious if the uploaded file is
large because the server is frozen until the processing is completed.

Is it possible to merge off-line and upload the merged file with
'overwrite' option?

Thanks,
Aijin

 http://translate.sourceforge.net/wiki/toolkit/pofilter
 http://translate.sourceforge.net/wiki/toolkit/pomerge

 You can download a ZIP file of all the PO files in the project/directory
 where you want to do this. You are interested in pofilter
 --test=untranslated, but the page above will give more information on
 the command line use.

 Friedel


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[l10n-dev] Translatable contents extraction ?

2008-02-24 Thread Jean-Christophe Helary
Is it possible to only have the PO parts that need translation/ 
updating and not the whole set ?


All the already translated parts are irrelevant to the translation  
itself (except when used as translation memories).


Is there a simple tool that can extract the translation data and later  
merge the translated data ?




Jean-Christophe Helary


http://mac4translators.blogspot.com/


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Re: [l10n-dev] Translatable contents extraction ?

2008-02-24 Thread F Wolff
Op Maandag 2008-02-25 skryf Jean-Christophe Helary:
 Is it possible to only have the PO parts that need translation/ 
 updating and not the whole set ?
 
 All the already translated parts are irrelevant to the translation  
 itself (except when used as translation memories).
 
 Is there a simple tool that can extract the translation data and later  
 merge the translated data ?


pofilter and pomerge will help you do this. In fact, if you send your
translations right back to Pootle, you can just upload the translated
subsets when you upload (as long as you don't choose overwrite when
you download. The default behaviour should be merge, which is what you
want.

http://translate.sourceforge.net/wiki/toolkit/pofilter
http://translate.sourceforge.net/wiki/toolkit/pomerge

You can download a ZIP file of all the PO files in the project/directory
where you want to do this. You are interested in pofilter
--test=untranslated, but the page above will give more information on
the command line use.

Friedel


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