Re: An experience and some thoughts about solr/example -> solr/server
OK, let's start collecting there. Here's an umbrella JIRA: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-6703 I know Jan has entered several JIRAs, can we link them here for tracking purposes? On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 5:14 AM, david.w.smi...@gmail.com wrote: > +1 Yeah, this would be huge. > > ~ David Smiley > Freelance Apache Lucene/Solr Search Consultant/Developer > http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley > > On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 2:30 AM, Jan Høydahl wrote: >> >> Also a crucial part here is to add a Collection tab in Admin GUI, and a >> more intelligent Cores tag, so that when people open Admin UI and see "There >> are no cores", they can create one by a few clicks. We already have a >> config_sets folder, perhaps the UI could look for that one and offer to >> create a core/collection based on one of the sets? >> >> -- >> Jan Høydahl, search solution architect >> Cominvent AS - www.cominvent.com >> >> > 4. nov. 2014 kl. 01.34 skrev Yonik Seeley : >> > >> > On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Shawn Heisey >> > wrote: >> >> I just ask that this >> >> information be added to the immediately available docs (README.txt and >> >> similar). >> > >> > +1 >> > >> > If we look at the old (4.x) README, it shows you how to start the >> > server, get to the admin screen, and index some documents. >> > >> > -Yonik >> > http://heliosearch.org - native code faceting, facet functions, >> > sub-facets, off-heap data >> > >> > - >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org >> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org >> > >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org >> > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
Re: An experience and some thoughts about solr/example -> solr/server
+1 Yeah, this would be huge. ~ David Smiley Freelance Apache Lucene/Solr Search Consultant/Developer http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 2:30 AM, Jan Høydahl wrote: > Also a crucial part here is to add a Collection tab in Admin GUI, and a > more intelligent Cores tag, so that when people open Admin UI and see > "There are no cores", they can create one by a few clicks. We already have > a config_sets folder, perhaps the UI could look for that one and offer to > create a core/collection based on one of the sets? > > -- > Jan Høydahl, search solution architect > Cominvent AS - www.cominvent.com > > > 4. nov. 2014 kl. 01.34 skrev Yonik Seeley : > > > > On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Shawn Heisey > wrote: > >> I just ask that this > >> information be added to the immediately available docs (README.txt and > >> similar). > > > > +1 > > > > If we look at the old (4.x) README, it shows you how to start the > > server, get to the admin screen, and index some documents. > > > > -Yonik > > http://heliosearch.org - native code faceting, facet functions, > > sub-facets, off-heap data > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org > >
Re: An experience and some thoughts about solr/example -> solr/server
Also a crucial part here is to add a Collection tab in Admin GUI, and a more intelligent Cores tag, so that when people open Admin UI and see "There are no cores", they can create one by a few clicks. We already have a config_sets folder, perhaps the UI could look for that one and offer to create a core/collection based on one of the sets? -- Jan Høydahl, search solution architect Cominvent AS - www.cominvent.com > 4. nov. 2014 kl. 01.34 skrev Yonik Seeley : > > On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Shawn Heisey wrote: >> I just ask that this >> information be added to the immediately available docs (README.txt and >> similar). > > +1 > > If we look at the old (4.x) README, it shows you how to start the > server, get to the admin screen, and index some documents. > > -Yonik > http://heliosearch.org - native code faceting, facet functions, > sub-facets, off-heap data > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
Re: An experience and some thoughts about solr/example -> solr/server
On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Shawn Heisey wrote: > I just ask that this > information be added to the immediately available docs (README.txt and > similar). +1 If we look at the old (4.x) README, it shows you how to start the server, get to the admin screen, and index some documents. -Yonik http://heliosearch.org - native code faceting, facet functions, sub-facets, off-heap data - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
Re: An experience and some thoughts about solr/example -> solr/server
OK, I'm playing naive user here and coming up with some notes that need explication. They may already be somewhere, but Anyway, where should we collect these? I'm particularly good at taking the role of someone easily confused ;)... Latest thing. Once I create a set of nodes for SolrCloud, how to bounce one? I spent some time trying to get bin/solr to do it before realizing that was just setup. Killing the Solr running on that port then going into node# and starting the jar in the regular way works. That said, it seems like we should be able to restart a Solr node with bin/solr and have it pick up where it left off. The scenario is this: I start a SolrCloud cluster. I want to test behavior where a node goes down. I do NOT want to restart, I want to stop, poke around, then start. bin/solr start -p 7574 -c -z localhost:2181 has the nodes show in the admin UI, but as "down" although not the gray version. Is there a way I'm missing to start a downed node from bin/solr and have it pick up where we left off? Erick On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Erik Hatcher wrote: > > On Nov 3, 2014, at 12:50 PM, Shawn Heisey wrote: > >> On 11/2/2014 5:57 PM, Erick Erickson wrote: >>> I'm a little discomfited by having to learn new stuff, but that's "a >>> personal >>> problem" ;). >>> >>> I do think we have to be mindful of people who want something like what >>> Shawn >>> was doing, I do this all the time as well. And of new people who haven't a >>> clue. >>> Hmmm, actually new folks might have an easier time of it since they don't >>> have any expectations ;). >>> >>> bq: "...'run example' target that could also fire off a create for >>> collection1." >>> >>> Exactly, with a note (perhaps in the help for this command) about where the >>> config files are located that are used. Perhaps with a 'clean' option that >>> blows away the current data directory and (if Zookeeper becomes the one >>> source of truth) does an upconfig first. >> >> Thanks for all the input on this thread, and for the hard work trying to >> make everything easier for a beginner. >> >> I actually do really like the fact that we now start with no cores, it >> was just a bit of a shock. It sounds like it's a relatively >> straightforward thing to fire off a CoreAdmin 'curl' command after >> startup that will populate an example core, and the conf directory is >> probably easy to locate in the download too. I just ask that this >> information be added to the immediately available docs (README.txt and >> similar). I did not check the tutorial ... if it's not already there, >> it probably should be. > > Or on trunk (and hopefully back ported if we do another 4.10.x release): > > $ bin/solr create_core -help > > Usage: solr create_core [-n name] [-c configset] > > -nName of core to create > > -c Name of configuration directory to use, valid options are: > basic_configs: Minimal Solr configuration > data_driven_schema_configs: Managed schema with field-guessing support > enabled > sample_techproducts_configs: Example configuration with many optional > features enabled to > demonstrate the full power of Solr > If not specified, default is: data_driven_schema_configs > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
Re: An experience and some thoughts about solr/example -> solr/server
On Nov 3, 2014, at 12:50 PM, Shawn Heisey wrote: > On 11/2/2014 5:57 PM, Erick Erickson wrote: >> I'm a little discomfited by having to learn new stuff, but that's "a personal >> problem" ;). >> >> I do think we have to be mindful of people who want something like what Shawn >> was doing, I do this all the time as well. And of new people who haven't a >> clue. >> Hmmm, actually new folks might have an easier time of it since they don't >> have any expectations ;). >> >> bq: "...'run example' target that could also fire off a create for >> collection1." >> >> Exactly, with a note (perhaps in the help for this command) about where the >> config files are located that are used. Perhaps with a 'clean' option that >> blows away the current data directory and (if Zookeeper becomes the one >> source of truth) does an upconfig first. > > Thanks for all the input on this thread, and for the hard work trying to > make everything easier for a beginner. > > I actually do really like the fact that we now start with no cores, it > was just a bit of a shock. It sounds like it's a relatively > straightforward thing to fire off a CoreAdmin 'curl' command after > startup that will populate an example core, and the conf directory is > probably easy to locate in the download too. I just ask that this > information be added to the immediately available docs (README.txt and > similar). I did not check the tutorial ... if it's not already there, > it probably should be. Or on trunk (and hopefully back ported if we do another 4.10.x release): $ bin/solr create_core -help Usage: solr create_core [-n name] [-c configset] -nName of core to create -c Name of configuration directory to use, valid options are: basic_configs: Minimal Solr configuration data_driven_schema_configs: Managed schema with field-guessing support enabled sample_techproducts_configs: Example configuration with many optional features enabled to demonstrate the full power of Solr If not specified, default is: data_driven_schema_configs - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
Re: An experience and some thoughts about solr/example -> solr/server
On 11/2/2014 5:57 PM, Erick Erickson wrote: > I'm a little discomfited by having to learn new stuff, but that's "a personal > problem" ;). > > I do think we have to be mindful of people who want something like what Shawn > was doing, I do this all the time as well. And of new people who haven't a > clue. > Hmmm, actually new folks might have an easier time of it since they don't > have any expectations ;). > > bq: "...'run example' target that could also fire off a create for > collection1." > > Exactly, with a note (perhaps in the help for this command) about where the > config files are located that are used. Perhaps with a 'clean' option that > blows away the current data directory and (if Zookeeper becomes the one > source of truth) does an upconfig first. Thanks for all the input on this thread, and for the hard work trying to make everything easier for a beginner. I actually do really like the fact that we now start with no cores, it was just a bit of a shock. It sounds like it's a relatively straightforward thing to fire off a CoreAdmin 'curl' command after startup that will populate an example core, and the conf directory is probably easy to locate in the download too. I just ask that this information be added to the immediately available docs (README.txt and similar). I did not check the tutorial ... if it's not already there, it probably should be. Thanks, Shawn - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
Re: An experience and some thoughts about solr/example -> solr/server
I have to say I like "the new way" of doing things. I'm sooo tired of maintaining a bunch of command-line files that copy everything from example to node1, node2, node3 then starting things up in 4 separate windows (or 6 recently) and... Hmmm, looks kind of similar to what the new command does all for me... I'm a little discomfited by having to learn new stuff, but that's "a personal problem" ;). I do think we have to be mindful of people who want something like what Shawn was doing, I do this all the time as well. And of new people who haven't a clue. Hmmm, actually new folks might have an easier time of it since they don't have any expectations ;). bq: "...'run example' target that could also fire off a create for collection1." Exactly, with a note (perhaps in the help for this command) about where the config files are located that are used. Perhaps with a 'clean' option that blows away the current data directory and (if Zookeeper becomes the one source of truth) does an upconfig first. For me, the goal here is to be up and running as fast as I could be in the old way of doing things, i.e. 1> cd to 2> execute the command 3> go into exampledocs and type 'java -jar post.jar *.xml" 4> search The current questions (mine as well) are, as Mark says, that I'd expect with such a fundamental change. Now that it's checked in, people will be trying all sorts of things and uncovering nooks and crannies. So let's have an umbrella JIRA that we collect things in and we can fix what we find as we go. I'll create one if there isn't one already, let me know. Erick On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Alexandre Rafalovitch wrote: > That's interesting. I did not realize we were going away from > ElasticSearch on that. > > So, do we need to update the tutorial or some other super-obvious way > of what the next step is? (I haven't checked). Because one difference > between Solr and the Database is that create table is a standard SQL > command used in any database (for the basic use case). Whereas Solr is > a unique snowflake and we cannot expect any pre-existing knowledge > transfer. > > Regards, >Alex. > Personal: http://www.outerthoughts.com/ and @arafalov > Solr resources and newsletter: http://www.solr-start.com/ and @solrstart > Solr popularizers community: https://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=6713853 > > > On 2 November 2014 18:06, Mark Miller wrote: >> I'm sure after such a large change there are some things to smooth over. >> >> As far as starting with no cores or collections, I very strongly think that >> is the way to go. >> >> I've been working with a Solr checkout designed this way for a long time and >> I tend to just keep a text file of common cmd line entries around, one of >> which is a simple curl command to create collection1 and the corresponding >> command to remove it. >> >> Something that might make things a bit easier could also be an alternate >> developer 'run example' target that could also fire off a create for >> collection1. >> >> For other cases, I'd think of it like a database example - step one is to >> create a table named foo, not dive in on the built in table1. >> >> - Mark >> >> On Sun Nov 02 2014 at 4:34:57 PM Shawn Heisey wrote: >>> >>> I hope this won't serve to interrupt the momentum for SOLR-3619 and >>> related work, just perhaps influence the direction. What I'm going to >>> relate here probably is no surprise to anyone involved with the effort. >>> >>> In response to a user's question on IRC, I wanted to take their >>> fieldType, incorporate it into the main example on my source code >>> checkout, and fire up the example so I could poke around on the analysis >>> tab. >>> >>> I only had branch_5x, and it was a clean checkout, so I did "svn up" >>> followed by "ant example" and got to work. The first thing I discovered >>> is that there's no longer a conf directory in example/solr/collection1. >>> I poked around for a bit, found what looked like a likely candidate >>> config, and modified the schema.xml. Then I poked around a bit more and >>> learned that "bin/solr start" was what I need to use to get it running. >>> >>> I was surprised to see that when Solr started, there were no cores >>> loaded at all. Thinking about all the discussions around this topic, >>> this makes a lot of sense ... but it does make it hard to implement what >>> I typically use the example for, which is quick tests of small >>> config/schema changes or user-provided scenarios from IRC or the mailing >>> list. >>> >>> I think the README or other documentation should probably cover exactly >>> what to do if your intent is to use collection1, modify it, and poke >>> around. >>> >>> Separately, I noticed that there are a lot of java options used to start >>> the server, including an increase to PermSize. In all my time using >>> Solr, I've never had to change that. Do we have common problems with >>> the new startup script and solr version that require it? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Shawn >>>
Re: An experience and some thoughts about solr/example -> solr/server
My understanding is that you can run the examples, but you have to specifically ask for one using the "-e" argument, like: ./solr start -e techproducts That said, I'm trying it right now and It's failing and giving confusing messages (Errors followed by success): a82066179bf9:bin tflobbe$ ./solr start -e techproducts Waiting to see Solr listening on port 8983 [|] Still not seeing Solr listening on 8983 after 30 seconds! tail: /Users/tflobbe/Documents/apache/lucene-solr-trunk-commit/solr/server/logs/solr.log: No such file or directory Creating new core using command: http://localhost:8983/solr/admin/cores?action=CREATE&name=techproducts&configSet=sample_techproducts_configs WARN - 2014-11-02 16:32:24.486; org.apache.solr.util.SolrCLI; Request to http://localhost:8983/solr/admin/cores?action=CREATE&name=techproducts&configSet=sample_techproducts_configs failed due to: Connection refused, sleeping for 5 seconds before re-trying the request ... Exception in thread "main" java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.socketConnect(Native Method) at java.net.AbstractPlainSocketImpl.doConnect(AbstractPlainSocketImpl.java:339) at java.net.AbstractPlainSocketImpl.connectToAddress(AbstractPlainSocketImpl.java:200) at java.net.AbstractPlainSocketImpl.connect(AbstractPlainSocketImpl.java:182) at java.net.SocksSocketImpl.connect(SocksSocketImpl.java:392) at java.net.Socket.connect(Socket.java:579) at org.apache.http.conn.scheme.PlainSocketFactory.connectSocket(PlainSocketFactory.java:117) at org.apache.http.impl.conn.DefaultClientConnectionOperator.openConnection(DefaultClientConnectionOperator.java:178) at org.apache.http.impl.conn.ManagedClientConnectionImpl.open(ManagedClientConnectionImpl.java:304) at org.apache.http.impl.client.DefaultRequestDirector.tryConnect(DefaultRequestDirector.java:610) at org.apache.http.impl.client.DefaultRequestDirector.execute(DefaultRequestDirector.java:445) at org.apache.http.impl.client.AbstractHttpClient.doExecute(AbstractHttpClient.java:863) at org.apache.http.impl.client.CloseableHttpClient.execute(CloseableHttpClient.java:72) at org.apache.http.impl.client.CloseableHttpClient.execute(CloseableHttpClient.java:214) at org.apache.http.impl.client.CloseableHttpClient.execute(CloseableHttpClient.java:160) at org.apache.http.impl.client.CloseableHttpClient.execute(CloseableHttpClient.java:136) at org.apache.solr.util.SolrCLI.getJson(SolrCLI.java:460) at org.apache.solr.util.SolrCLI.getJson(SolrCLI.java:413) at org.apache.solr.util.SolrCLI.getJson(SolrCLI.java:423) at org.apache.solr.util.SolrCLI.getJson(SolrCLI.java:399) at org.apache.solr.util.SolrCLI$ApiTool.runTool(SolrCLI.java:692) at org.apache.solr.util.SolrCLI.main(SolrCLI.java:185) Indexing tech product example docs from /Users/tflobbe/Documents/apache/lucene-solr-trunk-commit/solr/example/exampledocs SimplePostTool version 1.5 Posting files to base url http://localhost:8983/solr/techproducts/update using content-type application/xml.. POSTing file gb18030-example.xml SimplePostTool: FATAL: Connection error (is Solr running at http://localhost:8983/solr/techproducts/update ?): java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused Solr techproducts example launched successfully. Direct your Web browser to http://localhost:8983/solr to visit the Solr Admin UI Tomás On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Alexandre Rafalovitch wrote: > That's interesting. I did not realize we were going away from > ElasticSearch on that. > > So, do we need to update the tutorial or some other super-obvious way > of what the next step is? (I haven't checked). Because one difference > between Solr and the Database is that create table is a standard SQL > command used in any database (for the basic use case). Whereas Solr is > a unique snowflake and we cannot expect any pre-existing knowledge > transfer. > > Regards, >Alex. > Personal: http://www.outerthoughts.com/ and @arafalov > Solr resources and newsletter: http://www.solr-start.com/ and @solrstart > Solr popularizers community: https://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=6713853 > > > On 2 November 2014 18:06, Mark Miller wrote: > > I'm sure after such a large change there are some things to smooth over. > > > > As far as starting with no cores or collections, I very strongly think > that > > is the way to go. > > > > I've been working with a Solr checkout designed this way for a long time > and > > I tend to just keep a text file of common cmd line entries around, one of > > which is a simple curl command to create collection1 and the > corresponding > > command to remove it. > > > > Something that might make things a bit easier could also be an alternate > > developer 'run example' target that could also fire off a create for > > collection1. > > > > For other cases, I'd think of it like a database example - step one is to > > create a table named foo, not dive in on the built in table1.
Re: An experience and some thoughts about solr/example -> solr/server
That's interesting. I did not realize we were going away from ElasticSearch on that. So, do we need to update the tutorial or some other super-obvious way of what the next step is? (I haven't checked). Because one difference between Solr and the Database is that create table is a standard SQL command used in any database (for the basic use case). Whereas Solr is a unique snowflake and we cannot expect any pre-existing knowledge transfer. Regards, Alex. Personal: http://www.outerthoughts.com/ and @arafalov Solr resources and newsletter: http://www.solr-start.com/ and @solrstart Solr popularizers community: https://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=6713853 On 2 November 2014 18:06, Mark Miller wrote: > I'm sure after such a large change there are some things to smooth over. > > As far as starting with no cores or collections, I very strongly think that > is the way to go. > > I've been working with a Solr checkout designed this way for a long time and > I tend to just keep a text file of common cmd line entries around, one of > which is a simple curl command to create collection1 and the corresponding > command to remove it. > > Something that might make things a bit easier could also be an alternate > developer 'run example' target that could also fire off a create for > collection1. > > For other cases, I'd think of it like a database example - step one is to > create a table named foo, not dive in on the built in table1. > > - Mark > > On Sun Nov 02 2014 at 4:34:57 PM Shawn Heisey wrote: >> >> I hope this won't serve to interrupt the momentum for SOLR-3619 and >> related work, just perhaps influence the direction. What I'm going to >> relate here probably is no surprise to anyone involved with the effort. >> >> In response to a user's question on IRC, I wanted to take their >> fieldType, incorporate it into the main example on my source code >> checkout, and fire up the example so I could poke around on the analysis >> tab. >> >> I only had branch_5x, and it was a clean checkout, so I did "svn up" >> followed by "ant example" and got to work. The first thing I discovered >> is that there's no longer a conf directory in example/solr/collection1. >> I poked around for a bit, found what looked like a likely candidate >> config, and modified the schema.xml. Then I poked around a bit more and >> learned that "bin/solr start" was what I need to use to get it running. >> >> I was surprised to see that when Solr started, there were no cores >> loaded at all. Thinking about all the discussions around this topic, >> this makes a lot of sense ... but it does make it hard to implement what >> I typically use the example for, which is quick tests of small >> config/schema changes or user-provided scenarios from IRC or the mailing >> list. >> >> I think the README or other documentation should probably cover exactly >> what to do if your intent is to use collection1, modify it, and poke >> around. >> >> Separately, I noticed that there are a lot of java options used to start >> the server, including an increase to PermSize. In all my time using >> Solr, I've never had to change that. Do we have common problems with >> the new startup script and solr version that require it? >> >> Thanks, >> Shawn >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org >> > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
Re: An experience and some thoughts about solr/example -> solr/server
I'm sure after such a large change there are some things to smooth over. As far as starting with no cores or collections, I very strongly think that is the way to go. I've been working with a Solr checkout designed this way for a long time and I tend to just keep a text file of common cmd line entries around, one of which is a simple curl command to create collection1 and the corresponding command to remove it. Something that might make things a bit easier could also be an alternate developer 'run example' target that could also fire off a create for collection1. For other cases, I'd think of it like a database example - step one is to create a table named foo, not dive in on the built in table1. - Mark On Sun Nov 02 2014 at 4:34:57 PM Shawn Heisey wrote: > I hope this won't serve to interrupt the momentum for SOLR-3619 and > related work, just perhaps influence the direction. What I'm going to > relate here probably is no surprise to anyone involved with the effort. > > In response to a user's question on IRC, I wanted to take their > fieldType, incorporate it into the main example on my source code > checkout, and fire up the example so I could poke around on the analysis > tab. > > I only had branch_5x, and it was a clean checkout, so I did "svn up" > followed by "ant example" and got to work. The first thing I discovered > is that there's no longer a conf directory in example/solr/collection1. > I poked around for a bit, found what looked like a likely candidate > config, and modified the schema.xml. Then I poked around a bit more and > learned that "bin/solr start" was what I need to use to get it running. > > I was surprised to see that when Solr started, there were no cores > loaded at all. Thinking about all the discussions around this topic, > this makes a lot of sense ... but it does make it hard to implement what > I typically use the example for, which is quick tests of small > config/schema changes or user-provided scenarios from IRC or the mailing > list. > > I think the README or other documentation should probably cover exactly > what to do if your intent is to use collection1, modify it, and poke > around. > > Separately, I noticed that there are a lot of java options used to start > the server, including an increase to PermSize. In all my time using > Solr, I've never had to change that. Do we have common problems with > the new startup script and solr version that require it? > > Thanks, > Shawn > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org > >
An experience and some thoughts about solr/example -> solr/server
I hope this won't serve to interrupt the momentum for SOLR-3619 and related work, just perhaps influence the direction. What I'm going to relate here probably is no surprise to anyone involved with the effort. In response to a user's question on IRC, I wanted to take their fieldType, incorporate it into the main example on my source code checkout, and fire up the example so I could poke around on the analysis tab. I only had branch_5x, and it was a clean checkout, so I did "svn up" followed by "ant example" and got to work. The first thing I discovered is that there's no longer a conf directory in example/solr/collection1. I poked around for a bit, found what looked like a likely candidate config, and modified the schema.xml. Then I poked around a bit more and learned that "bin/solr start" was what I need to use to get it running. I was surprised to see that when Solr started, there were no cores loaded at all. Thinking about all the discussions around this topic, this makes a lot of sense ... but it does make it hard to implement what I typically use the example for, which is quick tests of small config/schema changes or user-provided scenarios from IRC or the mailing list. I think the README or other documentation should probably cover exactly what to do if your intent is to use collection1, modify it, and poke around. Separately, I noticed that there are a lot of java options used to start the server, including an increase to PermSize. In all my time using Solr, I've never had to change that. Do we have common problems with the new startup script and solr version that require it? Thanks, Shawn - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org