Re: [Marketing] positioner [was: banner]

[Bernhard Dippold]

Hi Steven,

Steven Shelton wrote:


Bernhard Dippold wrote:

For the ones willing to use it, I created a first draft of the logo 
with positioner

http://www.familie-dippold.de/OpenOffice.org/logo_with_positioner.png



Not to be picky, but it's intentionally "Open. For Business." and not 
"Open - for business." The punctuation is important!


Sorry - I made it late at night :-(

I updated the files at the issue 
(http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=61057) and the one 
on my homepage.


Best regards

Bernhard

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Re: [Marketing] [Mac OS X port] OpenOffice.org works on Mac Intel

[Cor Nouws]

Hello Charles,

Charles-H.Schulz wrote:


ICT-news is IMHO to often fed with all kind of news about the future
MsOffice 12.



Do you have an URL?


Can you read Dutch?

17-11-05 http://www.webwereld.nl/articles/38391
22-11-05 http://www.webwereld.nl/articles/38442
22-11-05 http://www.webwereld.nl/articles/38443
(Note the coincidence with the release of OOo 2.0!)
12-1-06 http://www.webwereld.nl/articles/39264
20-1-06 http://www.webwereld.nl/articles/39410
23-1-06 http://www.webwereld.nl/articles/39430

Greetings,
Cor

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[Charles-H.Schulz]

Hello Steven,

Steven Pauwels wrote:

> I think I have to start over...
>
> Hi there.
>
> How can I help?

First, thank you for your help! The Marketing Project leads will soon
explain you how you can help inside the Marketing project. I would
however like to show you, if you did not know it that there are
linguistic communities of users, developpers and marketers all around
the world for OpenOffice.org . They are known as the Native-Lang
Confederation. (http://native-lang.openoffice.org)
I have read you were Belgian. In case you are francophone, you may want
to help here: http://fr.openoffice.org In case you speak flemish/dutch,
you may want to go to the dutch speaking community:
http://nl.openoffice.org .
Of course, you can also contribute here, or in other projects!
Welcome to OpenOffice.org,
Charles-H. Schulz,
Lead of the Native-Lang
Confederation, OpenOffice.org

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Re: [Marketing] [Mac OS X port] OpenOffice.org works on Mac Intel

[Cor Nouws]

Steven Shelton wrote:


Of course.
But when we inform some press-contacts, telling that the 
OpenOffice.org community has made the first important steps on the 
porting for MacTel, and that further news will follow next month 
That's news, and good news too, isn't it? 



My fear is that it starts to sound like vaporware. *shrug*



Depends. If we are sure that it's going to be made, it's not.



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[Cor Nouws]

Hi Steven,

Steven Pauwels wrote:


I think I have to start over...


You mean ... a little overwhelmed by the impact of your actions?



Hi there.

How can I help?


Well, look around at the website, see what is offered, see how 
discussions and the process go on.

Then ask for something or do a suggestion to contribute.
Follow your own idea's as much as possible and try to confirm with known 
community-demands as much as possible...


Not that much difference with the path you followed...

Take care,
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[Steven Pauwels]

I think I have to start over...

Hi there.

How can I help?

Steven


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Re: [Marketing] [Mac OS X port] OpenOffice.org works on Mac Intel

[Cor Nouws]

Hi Charles, Eric,

ericb.bachard wrote:


Le 23 janv. 06 à 14:25, Charles-H.Schulz a écrit :



Well, that's the question I was asking for.  Louis will interview Eric
very soon, if not done already.



And other in th Mac Team ...  :-)

[...]

A real gentelman that you share the credits. But you don't have to be 
shy, do you?




Don't forget that until we definitively fix the last bridges bug,  this 
is experimental work, in progress.

[...]


Be careful : we have to take care about announce effects. Over all  for 
native port. For example, limit our communications about existing  and 
working things. e.g.  : OpenOffice.org for Mac OS X works  natively on 
Mactel.




Of course.
But when we inform some press-contacts, telling that the OpenOffice.org 
community has made the first important steps on the porting for MacTel, 
and that further news will follow next month 

That's news, and good news too, isn't it?

In case some people might get the impression that the port is finished 
already, we can point them to the interview, that will be published shortly.


[...]


Yes, and currently we have nothing interesting to show about native  
port. 
From marketing and community point of view, I don't agree with you. See 
above.

Be good and show it.


Regards,
Cor



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Re: [Marketing] positioner [was: banner]

[Finn Gruwier Larsen]

Steven Shelton wrote:

Not to be picky, but it's intentionally "Open. For Business." and not 
"Open - for business." The punctuation is important!


I agree. It's an important aspect that it could be read in two ways: 
either as two independent statements ("open" and "for business") or as a 
single statement ("open for business").


Finn

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Re: [Marketing] positioner [was: banner]

[Steven Shelton]

Bernhard Dippold wrote:
For the ones willing to use it, I created a first draft of the logo 
with positioner

http://www.familie-dippold.de/OpenOffice.org/logo_with_positioner.png


Not to be picky, but it's intentionally "Open. For Business." and not 
"Open - for business." The punctuation is important!


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Re: [Marketing] positioner [was: banner]

[Bernhard Dippold]

Hi Finn, *

Finn Gruwier Larsen wrote:


Steven Shelton wrote:

Looks nice. But the "approved" positioner is "Open. For Business." and 
not "It is the standard."



I agree that it would be even better to use the approved positioner.

By the way - where is the approved positioner to be used? I haven't seen 
it anywere. I would expect to see it as one of the first things that 
caught my eyes on the main page of the website...


It wasn't discussed in the CC by now (at least I didn't hear about 
it) - so it is not officially approved yet :-(


(I CC'd Louis and Jacqueline to get some comments on that topic)

For the ones willing to use it, I created a first draft of the logo 
with positioner

http://www.familie-dippold.de/OpenOffice.org/logo_with_positioner.png

and attached the source to Issue
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=61057
Feel free to use and/or optimize it.

Best regards

Bernhard

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Re: [Marketing] [Mac OS X port] OpenOffice.org works on Mac Intel

[ericb.bachard]

Hi,

Le 23 janv. 06 à 14:25, Charles-H.Schulz a écrit :



Well, that's the question I was asking for.  Louis will interview Eric
very soon, if not done already.


And other in th Mac Team ...  :-)



Erwin, Hirano, Florian or myself will
include something in the newsletter. In the mean time, what Eric is
talking about is not that he has managed to release OOo on MacTel but


Important : I was *not* alone to do everything ;-)

Florian Heckl, Daniel Boelzle and Stephan Bergmann helped a lot for  
Mactel port. And some work is still to do.

Again, many thank's to them  :-)

Pavel Janik contribution was important too.

Don't forget that until we definitively fix the last bridges bug,  
this is experimental work, in progress.




that so far the porting is doing much better than expected since he
managed to compile a temporary build of the specific mac version  
(Aqua)

on the MacTel platform.


Aqua version does not exist. Waht we currently have is a repeatable  
complete build without use Xlib, but only an empty window. Now we  
have to fill it...


Don't forget : this "thing" is of course not usable at all.  A lot is  
still to do before we can show something really interesting.




So what can be done is to "pollute the waves"
and get cocky and noisy in front of Microsoft; nothing  more than that


Be careful : we have to take care about announce effects. Over all  
for native port. For example, limit our communications about existing  
and working things. e.g.  : OpenOffice.org for Mac OS X works  
natively on Mactel.


No idea about Microsoft and Mactel port of MS Office ;-)



though, as the public is not interested to know that a developper, as
skilled as he can be, has managed to do this with a temporary  
build. The

public wants a release (even a beta), not a wild set of binaries, as
this may be its perception.


Yes, and currently we have nothing interesting to show about native  
port. What I can say is that February will be a great month for  
porting project, because a lot of work is planned.


The best we can do is to update Timeline, Baseline and propose a  
Roadmap.




Regards,
eric bachard

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Re: [Marketing] banner

[Steven Shelton]

Finn Gruwier Larsen wrote:
By the way - where is the approved positioner to be used? I haven't 
seen it anywere. I would expect to see it as one of the first things 
that caught my eyes on the main page of the website...
It should be. It should be everywhere. I think it's just the nature of 
the volunteer beast that it's been slow to work its way onto the site. 
(It should also be on the splash screen, etc. in my opinion. Something 
that could be done as part of the next "microupdate.")


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Re: [Marketing] banner

[Finn Gruwier Larsen]

Steven Shelton wrote:

Looks nice. But the "approved" positioner is "Open. For Business." and 
not "It is the standard."


I agree that it would be even better to use the approved positioner.

By the way - where is the approved positioner to be used? I haven't seen 
it anywere. I would expect to see it as one of the first things that 
caught my eyes on the main page of the website...


Finn G. Larsen

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Re: [Marketing] banner

[Chad Smith]

On 1/23/06, Steven Pauwels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi there,
>
> http://www.steven.be/OOo/bannerOOo2468x60.gif
>
> please comment.



Very cool idea.  Very nice looking graphic!  Great job!


As I live in Belgium, language is a problem... In one office we can have
> 5 languages... duh... OOo is nice there... so what about... "free times
> another language equals free" as a marketing slogan? this is an issue in
> fi: Medecins sans frontieres... or other humanitairy orgs... languages...
>

As has been pointed out always is spelled with one L not two.  But you might
want to consider rewording it to say.

Try it free for 30 Days!

--- it free for !

Use it free for LIFE!

(or)

Use it free for EVER!

"for always" doesn't sound right.And putting the word free before the
length of time makes it flow better, in my humble opinion.

Again, the concept is great.  I really like it.

Also, I agree with Steven, you might want to change "It's THE standard" to
"Open. For Business."

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http://www.gimpshop.net/
Because everyone loves free software!

Re: [Marketing] [Mac OS X port] OpenOffice.org works on Mac Intel

[Charles-H.Schulz]

Hello Eric,

eric.bachard wrote:

> Hi Charles,
>
> Just 1 min ago (really), i have blogged about improve visibility of
> MAc OS X porting projet. Strange, no ? :-)

indeed... :-)

>
> It is realistic todo something like a special newsletter only about
> MAc OS X porting project ?

You mean a Mac Newsletter? Humm? Why not? AFAICT the Newsletter team
would be a little too ressources and competence-constrained for such a
task, but hey, if we can find volunteers, why not...

Best,
Charles.

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Re: [Marketing] [Mac OS X port] OpenOffice.org works on Mac Intel

[Charles-H.Schulz]

Hello Cor,
Cor Nouws wrote:

>> It is realistic todo something like a special newsletter only about
>> MAc OS X porting project ?
>
>
> ICT-news is IMHO to often fed with all kind of news about the future
> MsOffice 12.

Do you have an URL?

> This MacTel port is an obvious opportunitie for us, to get OOo in the
> picture. So for sure I will do something with the news in The
> Netherlands.

Thanks!

> Maybe someone is going to make a note for the press, that I can use?

Well, that's the question I was asking for.  Louis will interview Eric
very soon, if not done already. Erwin, Hirano, Florian or myself will
include something in the newsletter. In the mean time, what Eric is
talking about is not that he has managed to release OOo on MacTel but
that so far the porting is doing much better than expected since he
managed to compile a temporary build of the specific mac version (Aqua)
on the MacTel platform. So what can be done is to "pollute the waves"
and get cocky and noisy in front of Microsoft; nothing  more than that
though, as the public is not interested to know that a developper, as
skilled as he can be, has managed to do this with a temporary build. The
public wants a release (even a beta), not a wild set of binaries, as
this may be its perception.
Best,
Charles.

>
> Thanks,
> Cor
>

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Re: [Marketing] [Mac OS X port] OpenOffice.org works on Mac Intel

[Cor Nouws]

Hi all,

eric.bachard wrote:

Just 1 min ago (really), i have blogged about improve visibility of MAc 
OS X porting projet. Strange, no ? :-)



Charles-H.Schulz a écrit :

I have blogged about this myself. 
Thank you very much Charles !

 Aside the interview, should we do
anything else? Something on the newsletter?


It is realistic todo something like a special newsletter only about MAc 
OS X porting project ?


ICT-news is IMHO to often fed with all kind of news about the future 
MsOffice 12.
This MacTel port is an obvious opportunitie for us, to get OOo in the 
picture. So for sure I will do something with the news in The Netherlands.

Maybe someone is going to make a note for the press, that I can use?

Thanks,
Cor

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[Marketing] banner

[Steven Pauwels]

Hi there,

http://www.steven.be/OOo/bannerOOo2468x60.gif

please comment.

Intentions:

Using no other components then the ones I found in the OOo 2.0 section, 
I tried to give the following message to the public without using Bill 
:) or any words in the message that they do not understand:


Get this office suite completely for free forever in stead of trying it 
for 30 day's... "and then being sattisfied and having to pay an enormous 
amount of investment cashif I want to get it... for something you can 
get for free... Really? h interesting."


The tag: 'it _is_ the standard' could be a campaign bottomline...

Feel free to add, comment

As I live in Belgium, language is a problem... In one office we can have 
5 languages... duh... OOo is nice there... so what about... "free times 
another language equals free" as a marketing slogan? this is an issue in 
fi: Medecins sans frontieres... or other humanitairy orgs... languages...


well, I like input of any kind... so gimme' gimme' gimme' some good 
or bad... I can take it... I can! I can!


Steven

Re: [Marketing] banner

[Steven Shelton]

Steven Pauwels wrote:

Hi there,

http://www.steven.be/OOo/bannerOOo2468x60.gif

please comment.

Intentions:

Using no other components then the ones I found in the OOo 2.0 
section, I tried to give the following message to the public without 
using Bill :) or any words in the message that they do not understand:


Get this office suite completely for free forever in stead of trying 
it for 30 day's... "and then being sattisfied and having to pay an 
enormous amount of investment cashif I want to get it... for something 
you can get for free... Really? h interesting."


The tag: 'it _is_ the standard' could be a campaign bottomline...

Feel free to add, comment

As I live in Belgium, language is a problem... In one office we can 
have 5 languages... duh... OOo is nice there... so what about... "free 
times another language equals free" as a marketing slogan? this is an 
issue in fi: Medecins sans frontieres... or other humanitairy orgs... 
languages...


well, I like input of any kind... so gimme' gimme' gimme' some 
good or bad... I can take it... I can! I can! 


Looks nice. But the "approved" positioner is "Open. For Business." and 
not "It is the standard."


One of those guidelines we were talking about earlier. :-)

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Re: [Marketing] banner

[Finn Gruwier Larsen]

Steven Pauwels wrote:

Hi there,

http://www.steven.be/OOo/bannerOOo2468x60.gif

please comment.



But please remove the extra 'l' in 'always' :-)

Finn

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Re: [Marketing] banner

[Finn Gruwier Larsen]

Steven Pauwels wrote:

Hi there,

http://www.steven.be/OOo/bannerOOo2468x60.gif

please comment.



Hi Steven,

Brilliant :-)

I'll put it on my own website immediately.

Regards,

Finn G. Larsen

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[Marketing] document template

[Steven Pauwels]

Hello again,

Is there a OOo document template? It would be great to have one... I 
like the Art Style Guide layout :)


Steven

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Re: [Marketing] [Mac OS X port] OpenOffice.org works on Mac Intel

[Charles-H.Schulz]

Hi,
Louis Suarez-Potts wrote:

>
> Eric, once again, I offer to interview you and not just you but your 
> team.
>
> I will send the questions out tonight or tomorrow :-)
>
> Meanwhile, I would like to have a blurb on the homepage about this, 
> even though it is experimental still. I just need a url to use for 
> the curious.

I have blogged about this myself. Aside the interview, should we do
anything else? Something on the newsletter?
Thanks,
Charles.

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Re: [Marketing] [Mac OS X port] OpenOffice.org works on Mac Intel

[eric.bachard]

Hi Charles,

Just 1 min ago (really), i have blogged about improve visibility of MAc 
OS X porting projet. Strange, no ? :-)


Charles-H.Schulz a écrit :


I have blogged about this myself.


Thank you very much Charles !

 Aside the interview, should we do

anything else? Something on the newsletter?


It is realistic todo something like a special newsletter only about MAc 
OS X porting project ?



Regards,
eric bachard


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