Re: [Marketing] Return to the marketing
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 01:22:49 -0500, Ian Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So how come Dell can put Ubuntu (with OOo in its machines and Lenovo is considering doing it for laptops?) Canonical - so as long as you have some stable company pulling things together it doesn't seem too important how the individual products are backed. Ian Governments will sign a contract with Dell UK. Dell in itself is the one to deal with Canonical.com or Ubuntu.org but it really depends how the negotiations where handled and what is the legal requirements on each country. Example, mexico for a while required the vendor to produce the machines in the country. That is one of the reason why Apple couldn't sell computers for a long time. -- Alexandro Colorado CoLeader of OpenOffice.org ES http://es.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Return to the marketing
On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 18:12 -0500, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > >> Also the need of more non profit entities in countries so that > >> openoffice.org scale to large deployments. basically we are finding that > >> OOo vendors hav e a hard time justifiying the product and the brand. > > > > Not sure why not for profits will do that any better than profit making > > companies. Basically a not for profit still needs a revenue source to > > cover operating costs. It needs business models that are not based on > > selling software licenses. I did some training yesterday not > > specifically related to OOo but OOo went down very well with the > > teachers involved when I showed them how to get it and why it would be > > useful to them. I get paid for doing that training so its sustainable. > > Hi Ian, you miss the point here, the problem is not being a for profit or > not for profit. What the governments need is a legal entity of > OpenOffice.org. That makes more sense. > The companies that offer the services will use > OpenOffice.org and generate a profit, but the actual OpenOffice.org 'name > holder' should be legally stablish in the country. Needs a foundation in each country then. I'm not holding my breath :-) In fact a company that is stable offering to support it is probably good enough. Moodle seems OK in this respect and has 50% foorhold in the UK FE market. In fact i expect it to sweep theough the secondary sector too. > > I can't see any economic reason for a system builder installing MS Works > > on a computer instead of OOo unless M$ is actually paying them to do > > it. > > Legally a lot of things apartently doesn't make sense until you get > contracts in the mix. For example the OOXML was a clear example when OOo > members legally couldn't represent OOo because legally OOo doesn't exist > like Microsoft does. So how come Dell can put Ubuntu (with OOo in its machines and Lenovo is considering doing it for laptops?) Canonical - so as long as you have some stable company pulling things together it doesn't seem too important how the individual products are backed. Ian -- New QCA Accredited IT Qualifications www.theINGOTs.org You have received this email from the following company: The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and Wales. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Return to the marketing
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 17:51:41 -0500, Ian Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 17:31 -0500, Alexandro Colorado wrote: On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 17:12:27 -0500, Graham Lauder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Welcome back to everybody after what looked like a very successful > conference. > > I'd like to return focus to the Marketing campaign proposals > > Was anything discussed at the conference, with regard to the campaign, > that > those of us who couldn't attend should know about. > > Is there a conference page somewhere where there are minutes of the > meetings > > Cheers > GL > At least at the MarCon level there were success stories and failure ones from the Vendors such as Dell. There were other topics about 'how to market to web 2.0' in which is a whole lifestyle from the design to the funny logos to the viral nature of the imeplementations. Things like the OOo facebook group, more Youtube Videos and more presence on things like stumble upon, digg, youtube, slideshare, mugshot and so on. Maybe OOo needs to sweep through second life and establish itself as the virtual world standard ;-) Also the need of more non profit entities in countries so that openoffice.org scale to large deployments. basically we are finding that OOo vendors hav e a hard time justifiying the product and the brand. Not sure why not for profits will do that any better than profit making companies. Basically a not for profit still needs a revenue source to cover operating costs. It needs business models that are not based on selling software licenses. I did some training yesterday not specifically related to OOo but OOo went down very well with the teachers involved when I showed them how to get it and why it would be useful to them. I get paid for doing that training so its sustainable. Hi Ian, you miss the point here, the problem is not being a for profit or not for profit. What the governments need is a legal entity of OpenOffice.org. The companies that offer the services will use OpenOffice.org and generate a profit, but the actual OpenOffice.org 'name holder' should be legally stablish in the country. I can't see any economic reason for a system builder installing MS Works on a computer instead of OOo unless M$ is actually paying them to do it. Legally a lot of things apartently doesn't make sense until you get contracts in the mix. For example the OOXML was a clear example when OOo members legally couldn't represent OOo because legally OOo doesn't exist like Microsoft does. Ian -- Alexandro Colorado CoLeader of OpenOffice.org ES http://es.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Return to the marketing
On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 17:31 -0500, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 17:12:27 -0500, Graham Lauder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Welcome back to everybody after what looked like a very successful > > conference. > > > > I'd like to return focus to the Marketing campaign proposals > > > > Was anything discussed at the conference, with regard to the campaign, > > that > > those of us who couldn't attend should know about. > > > > Is there a conference page somewhere where there are minutes of the > > meetings > > > > Cheers > > GL > > > At least at the MarCon level there were success stories and failure ones > from the Vendors such as Dell. There were other topics about 'how to > market to web 2.0' in which is a whole lifestyle from the design to the > funny logos to the viral nature of the imeplementations. > > Things like the OOo facebook group, more Youtube Videos and more presence > on things like stumble upon, digg, youtube, slideshare, mugshot and so on. Maybe OOo needs to sweep through second life and establish itself as the virtual world standard ;-) > Also the need of more non profit entities in countries so that > openoffice.org scale to large deployments. basically we are finding that > OOo vendors hav e a hard time justifiying the product and the brand. Not sure why not for profits will do that any better than profit making companies. Basically a not for profit still needs a revenue source to cover operating costs. It needs business models that are not based on selling software licenses. I did some training yesterday not specifically related to OOo but OOo went down very well with the teachers involved when I showed them how to get it and why it would be useful to them. I get paid for doing that training so its sustainable. I can't see any economic reason for a system builder installing MS Works on a computer instead of OOo unless M$ is actually paying them to do it. Ian -- New QCA Accredited IT Qualifications www.theINGOTs.org You have received this email from the following company: The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and Wales. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Return to the marketing
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 17:12:27 -0500, Graham Lauder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Welcome back to everybody after what looked like a very successful conference. I'd like to return focus to the Marketing campaign proposals Was anything discussed at the conference, with regard to the campaign, that those of us who couldn't attend should know about. Is there a conference page somewhere where there are minutes of the meetings Cheers GL At least at the MarCon level there were success stories and failure ones from the Vendors such as Dell. There were other topics about 'how to market to web 2.0' in which is a whole lifestyle from the design to the funny logos to the viral nature of the imeplementations. Things like the OOo facebook group, more Youtube Videos and more presence on things like stumble upon, digg, youtube, slideshare, mugshot and so on. Also the need of more non profit entities in countries so that openoffice.org scale to large deployments. basically we are finding that OOo vendors hav e a hard time justifiying the product and the brand. -- Alexandro Colorado CoLeader of OpenOffice.org ES http://es.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Marketing] Return to the marketing
Welcome back to everybody after what looked like a very successful conference. I'd like to return focus to the Marketing campaign proposals Was anything discussed at the conference, with regard to the campaign, that those of us who couldn't attend should know about. Is there a conference page somewhere where there are minutes of the meetings Cheers GL -- "GET LEGAL - GET OPENOFFICE.ORG" http://why.openoffice.org ISO 26300 compliant Graham Lauder, OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html INGOTs Assessor Trainer Moderator New Zealand (International Grades in Office Technologies) www.theingots.org.nz GET DRESSED GET OOOGEAR http://ooogear.co.nz - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Here we go again, thanks Vladimir Stefanov for this. You ain't seen nothing yet, the revolution has just begun... Charles. --- Begin Message --- I don't know how many of you already know about it, but Macedonian government will soon deploy 180K thin clients in all Macedonian school who will work on Ubuntu servers, normally with OO.org translated to Macedonian language. http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS7546509093.html And few months ago the same government open free internet clubs in all cities in Macedonia for people up to 26 years old and older then 62 years, which work normally on Ubuntu with translated version of OO.org. Vladimir Stefanov - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- End Message --- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
