Re: [Marketing] Forum?

[Alexandro Colorado]

Well all emails get recorded and you can search on them. Away from that we  
alrady have a forum (beta testing for user support). Plus we have IRC  
meetings for live discussions. However you have to consider how much of  
the communication will be fork having to pay attention to the forums and  
the mailing lists.


On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:59:56 -0600, Viktor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:



Hey,
Does anyone think that a forum would be a really good place for
discussions and info? It seems like mailing lists are good for
announcements. Emails get lost quickly and deleted too. And it seems
we don't have forum in the support page. Plus, wiki is more of a
library/notebook than a discussion space. If anyone thinks it would be
beneficial for all projects, we can always set it up with free forum
services out there.

viktor

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Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 9:46 PM
To: dev@marketing.openoffice.org
Subject: Re: [Marketing] Marketing Initiative Proposal

On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:23:11 -0600, Italo Vignoli
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Alexandro Colorado wrote:


I agree with you in principle however this idea most be further develop
to be able to aproach and follow steps to get this. I agree that if OOo
gets endorsed by celebrities like Leo Laporte or John C. Dvorak they
will get a lot of plugs for the products. However  developing a
strategy to aprocah this kind of guys really need some kind of know  
how.

 Talking wtih hungry journalist looking to stir the pot might fire back
to us as we saw during the OOo Conference where just a journalist ride
on the high profile of OOo name to nurture a scandal and draw eyes to
his article.


Alexandro, I have been handling this kind of programs as a consultant
for over 25 years, inside corporations and PR agencies. In Italy, where
I manage such a program, OOo has over 100 articles each month (average)
and a peak of 300 in September. In Italy, MS has fired their MS Office
PR Manager, because he wasn't able to keep OOo pace. Today, the press
stirs the MS Office pot (titles start to affirm that OOo has more users
than MS Office, which is not true at all, but this is their problem and
not our problem).

I think we can scale to a higher level based on the experience we have
had in Italy (over 3 years now).

Best, Italo


Any roadmap? Step by Step program? Even create some strategic
documentation? Wiki on the marketing? Do we cold call writers from tech
mags, invite them to have dinner?

In the past I contact some magazines now I am writing for a couple of
them. However I think this is trying to make a mountain by doing it
yourself. I would more gladly pick up your brains and let other ones  
build

this mountain for me. I also like dinners :D





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Re: [Marketing] "OOo" vs."OO.o"

[Caio Tiago Oliveira]

Steven Shelton, 29-11-2007 17:26:

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Caio Tiago Oliveira wrote:


OOo is better to spell than OO.o.

It is also easier to type...


Plus, sentences look kinda funny when they end with OO.o.


O.o is a emoticon on east asia style that means shocked.
Chatzilla (Mozilla's IRC client) uses O.o and o.O for confused.

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[Marketing] Forum?

[Viktor]

Hey,
Does anyone think that a forum would be a really good place for
discussions and info? It seems like mailing lists are good for
announcements. Emails get lost quickly and deleted too. And it seems
we don't have forum in the support page. Plus, wiki is more of a
library/notebook than a discussion space. If anyone thinks it would be
beneficial for all projects, we can always set it up with free forum
services out there.

viktor

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From: Alexandro Colorado [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 9:46 PM
To: dev@marketing.openoffice.org
Subject: Re: [Marketing] Marketing Initiative Proposal

On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:23:11 -0600, Italo Vignoli  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Alexandro Colorado wrote:
>
>> I agree with you in principle however this idea most be further develop  
>> to be able to aproach and follow steps to get this. I agree that if OOo  
>> gets endorsed by celebrities like Leo Laporte or John C. Dvorak they  
>> will get a lot of plugs for the products. However  developing a  
>> strategy to aprocah this kind of guys really need some kind of know how.
>>  Talking wtih hungry journalist looking to stir the pot might fire back  
>> to us as we saw during the OOo Conference where just a journalist ride  
>> on the high profile of OOo name to nurture a scandal and draw eyes to  
>> his article.
>
> Alexandro, I have been handling this kind of programs as a consultant  
> for over 25 years, inside corporations and PR agencies. In Italy, where  
> I manage such a program, OOo has over 100 articles each month (average)  
> and a peak of 300 in September. In Italy, MS has fired their MS Office  
> PR Manager, because he wasn't able to keep OOo pace. Today, the press  
> stirs the MS Office pot (titles start to affirm that OOo has more users  
> than MS Office, which is not true at all, but this is their problem and  
> not our problem).
>
> I think we can scale to a higher level based on the experience we have  
> had in Italy (over 3 years now).
>
> Best, Italo
>
Any roadmap? Step by Step program? Even create some strategic  
documentation? Wiki on the marketing? Do we cold call writers from tech  
mags, invite them to have dinner?

In the past I contact some magazines now I am writing for a couple of  
them. However I think this is trying to make a mountain by doing it  
yourself. I would more gladly pick up your brains and let other ones build  
this mountain for me. I also like dinners :D

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Re: [Marketing] Marketing Initiative Proposal

[Alexandro Colorado]

On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:23:11 -0600, Italo Vignoli  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Alexandro Colorado wrote:

I agree with you in principle however this idea most be further develop  
to be able to aproach and follow steps to get this. I agree that if OOo  
gets endorsed by celebrities like Leo Laporte or John C. Dvorak they  
will get a lot of plugs for the products. However  developing a  
strategy to aprocah this kind of guys really need some kind of know how.
 Talking wtih hungry journalist looking to stir the pot might fire back  
to us as we saw during the OOo Conference where just a journalist ride  
on the high profile of OOo name to nurture a scandal and draw eyes to  
his article.


Alexandro, I have been handling this kind of programs as a consultant  
for over 25 years, inside corporations and PR agencies. In Italy, where  
I manage such a program, OOo has over 100 articles each month (average)  
and a peak of 300 in September. In Italy, MS has fired their MS Office  
PR Manager, because he wasn't able to keep OOo pace. Today, the press  
stirs the MS Office pot (titles start to affirm that OOo has more users  
than MS Office, which is not true at all, but this is their problem and  
not our problem).


I think we can scale to a higher level based on the experience we have  
had in Italy (over 3 years now).


Best, Italo

Any roadmap? Step by Step program? Even create some strategic  
documentation? Wiki on the marketing? Do we cold call writers from tech  
mags, invite them to have dinner?


In the past I contact some magazines now I am writing for a couple of  
them. However I think this is trying to make a mountain by doing it  
yourself. I would more gladly pick up your brains and let other ones build  
this mountain for me. I also like dinners :D


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RE: [Marketing] Marketing Initiative Proposal

[viktor]

Thats a good thing. Companies who implement OOo in their workspace would help 
us raise marketing campaign to the next level globaly. They could sponsor OOo 
to become world standard in the end as a complete suit solution.

viktor 

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From: "Italo Vignoli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: dev@marketing.openoffice.org
Sent: 11/29/2007 19:23
Subject: Re: [Marketing] Marketing Initiative Proposal

Alexandro Colorado wrote:

> I agree with you in principle however this idea most be further develop 
> to be able to aproach and follow steps to get this. I agree that if OOo 
> gets endorsed by celebrities like Leo Laporte or John C. Dvorak they 
> will get a lot of plugs for the products. However  developing a strategy 
> to aprocah this kind of guys really need some kind of know how.
> 
> Talking wtih hungry journalist looking to stir the pot might fire back 
> to us as we saw during the OOo Conference where just a journalist ride 
> on the high profile of OOo name to nurture a scandal and draw eyes to 
> his article.

Alexandro, I have been handling this kind of programs as a consultant 
for over 25 years, inside corporations and PR agencies. In Italy, where 
I manage such a program, OOo has over 100 articles each month (average) 
and a peak of 300 in September. In Italy, MS has fired their MS Office 
PR Manager, because he wasn't able to keep OOo pace. Today, the press 
stirs the MS Office pot (titles start to affirm that OOo has more users 
than MS Office, which is not true at all, but this is their problem and 
not our problem).

I think we can scale to a higher level based on the experience we have 
had in Italy (over 3 years now).

Best, Italo

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Re: [Marketing] Marketing Initiative Proposal

[Italo Vignoli]

Alexandro Colorado wrote:

I agree with you in principle however this idea most be further develop 
to be able to aproach and follow steps to get this. I agree that if OOo 
gets endorsed by celebrities like Leo Laporte or John C. Dvorak they 
will get a lot of plugs for the products. However  developing a strategy 
to aprocah this kind of guys really need some kind of know how.


Talking wtih hungry journalist looking to stir the pot might fire back 
to us as we saw during the OOo Conference where just a journalist ride 
on the high profile of OOo name to nurture a scandal and draw eyes to 
his article.


Alexandro, I have been handling this kind of programs as a consultant 
for over 25 years, inside corporations and PR agencies. In Italy, where 
I manage such a program, OOo has over 100 articles each month (average) 
and a peak of 300 in September. In Italy, MS has fired their MS Office 
PR Manager, because he wasn't able to keep OOo pace. Today, the press 
stirs the MS Office pot (titles start to affirm that OOo has more users 
than MS Office, which is not true at all, but this is their problem and 
not our problem).


I think we can scale to a higher level based on the experience we have 
had in Italy (over 3 years now).


Best, Italo

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Re: [Marketing] Marketing Initiative Proposal

[Alexandro Colorado]

On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 17:41:38 -0600, Italo Vignoli  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Viktor wrote:
Ok. I was thinking about how most people find out about any products -  
lets

say MS Office. You see commercials on tv and all over the internet, and
print ads too.


I don't understand why everybody looks at advertising, which is very  
expensive, and doesn't look at media relations, which are almost free  
and more aligned with OOo spirit and objectives.


OOo is way behind an acceptable visibility on the media, and the reason  
is that most volunteers in marketing have a technical background and not  
a communications background (and therefore are not used to handle media  
relations programs).


Let's start with a sustained media relations program (at least two press  
releases every month, a regular contact with journalists that blog about  
software, a quarterly contact with key editors, a tactical counterattack  
of MS Office media relations activities) and after one year let's see  
where we are.


In addition, we can do some "virals" using social media, but if you  
don't go through the media you won't get anywhere in terms of awareness.  
That's exactly what MS is doing: when OOo 2.0 has enetered the market,  
they have appointed a MS Office PR Manager in every major market in  
order to increase their media relations activities.


Just a couple of cents.



I agree with you in principle however this idea most be further develop to  
be able to aproach and follow steps to get this. I agree that if OOo gets  
endorsed by celebrities like Leo Laporte or John C. Dvorak they will get a  
lot of plugs for the products. However  developing a strategy to aprocah  
this kind of guys really need some kind of know how.


Talking wtih hungry journalist looking to stir the pot might fire back to  
us as we saw during the OOo Conference where just a journalist ride on the  
high profile of OOo name to nurture a scandal and draw eyes to his article.



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Re: [Marketing] Marketing Initiative Proposal

[Italo Vignoli]

Viktor wrote:

Ok. I was thinking about how most people find out about any products - lets
say MS Office. You see commercials on tv and all over the internet, and
print ads too. 


I don't understand why everybody looks at advertising, which is very 
expensive, and doesn't look at media relations, which are almost free 
and more aligned with OOo spirit and objectives.


OOo is way behind an acceptable visibility on the media, and the reason 
is that most volunteers in marketing have a technical background and not 
a communications background (and therefore are not used to handle media 
relations programs).


Let's start with a sustained media relations program (at least two press 
releases every month, a regular contact with journalists that blog about 
software, a quarterly contact with key editors, a tactical counterattack 
of MS Office media relations activities) and after one year let's see 
where we are.


In addition, we can do some "virals" using social media, but if you 
don't go through the media you won't get anywhere in terms of awareness. 
That's exactly what MS is doing: when OOo 2.0 has enetered the market, 
they have appointed a MS Office PR Manager in every major market in 
order to increase their media relations activities.


Just a couple of cents.

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Re: [Marketing] Number of contributors

[Louis Suarez-Potts]

On 2007-11-29, at 14:49 , John McCreesh wrote:


I thought I'd seen some analysis of the number of committers to the
codebase ... ?

Yes. The data were in the links I provided.

Louis


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Re: [Marketing] Marketing Initiative Proposal

[Alexandro Colorado]

On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 17:03:26 -0600, Cor Nouws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi Viktor,

Viktor wrote (29-11-2007 23:25)
Ok. I was thinking about how most people find out about any products -  
lets

say MS Office. You see commercials on tv and all over the internet, and
print ads too. [...]


Thanks for your enthusiasm. But OOo isn't MsO. So our marketing can't  
the same. And should not be, just to distinguish.
There are quite some, often lengthy, discussions on many lists. I'm sure  
you can use part of your idea's (preferably the easy targets ;-) ) to  
solve the problems in other discussions.
That's much easier for all than starting a new one with new big  
challenges ...


Hope you don't mind that I react a bit directly, but it is how I feel  
that your positive will can be most effective :-)


Kindest regards,
Cor


Althought at the same time , I don't see that you really need millions of  
dollars to get an OOo  commercial and put it up on youtube. If you have a  
digital camera you can at least pull out those Mac-like commercials. You  
just need  a tripod, a cammera and a white backround and get a funny  
script.


I have seen many people doing  really creative shows on youtube wihtout  
the need of 100,000 budget in funding. I would like to have a  
diggnation-like show focusing on OpenOffice.org at least some short shots  
and just spread them on youtube.com blip.tv etc.


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RE: [Marketing] Marketing Initiative Proposal

[viktor]

I see where u coming from Cor, but u have to understand the basics of 
marketing. We are competing against our competition, fighting for the market. 
In order to reach the same audience we need to use similar marketing methods. 
Only then we can replace competition.

viktor  

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Hi Viktor,

Viktor wrote (29-11-2007 23:25)
> Ok. I was thinking about how most people find out about any products - lets
> say MS Office. You see commercials on tv and all over the internet, and
> print ads too. 
> [...]

Thanks for your enthusiasm. But OOo isn't MsO. So our marketing can't 
the same. And should not be, just to distinguish.
There are quite some, often lengthy, discussions on many lists. I'm sure 
you can use part of your idea's (preferably the easy targets ;-) ) to 
solve the problems in other discussions.
That's much easier for all than starting a new one with new big 
challenges ...

Hope you don't mind that I react a bit directly, but it is how I feel 
that your positive will can be most effective :-)

Kindest regards,
Cor



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Re: [Marketing] Marketing Initiative Proposal

[Cor Nouws]

Hi Viktor,

Viktor wrote (29-11-2007 23:25)

Ok. I was thinking about how most people find out about any products - lets
say MS Office. You see commercials on tv and all over the internet, and
print ads too. 
[...]


Thanks for your enthusiasm. But OOo isn't MsO. So our marketing can't 
the same. And should not be, just to distinguish.
There are quite some, often lengthy, discussions on many lists. I'm sure 
you can use part of your idea's (preferably the easy targets ;-) ) to 
solve the problems in other discussions.
That's much easier for all than starting a new one with new big 
challenges ...


Hope you don't mind that I react a bit directly, but it is how I feel 
that your positive will can be most effective :-)


Kindest regards,
Cor



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[Marketing] Marketing Initiative Proposal

[Viktor]

Ok. I was thinking about how most people find out about any products - lets
say MS Office. You see commercials on tv and all over the internet, and
print ads too. 

So I put my mind to work and he's a what i come up with. 

I call it 'OOomercial'. 
Whats are major barrier? Money. We do not make profits on OOo. So we don't
have the resources for our marketing campaign. Here's my plan.

Let's put OpenOffice.org on TV. Wait, some of you might think, didn't you
just say we don't have money? Yes, we don't but keep reading. 

My initiative is a two stage process: 1. Get a commercial. 2. Get the funds.

1. Get a commercial.
Ok, so we need a commercial. How do we get one at a very low price?
I say let's get it for free. How? A contest. Let's initiate OOo commercial 
contest. Anyone who wants to participate can upload or mail a video that
they think might "sell" (for free of course) OOo to the public. This would
be a great opportunity for students majoring in film, marketing, etc. Plus,
anyone can do it. Also, it can be anything from movie, animation, and
slideshow that bests represents OOo. At the end of the contest Community
Council would pick out 10 (or any number of videos) the best ones and they
would be posted on the site for the community to vote and decide on the ONE
that will be on TV. The winner would be shown on TV and the rest of them
would be used freely on the site and would be available for download to be
used on other sites for marketing. Most likely we would need them to be in
English as it is used primarily around the world. And if possible we could
double it in other languages.

2. Get the funds.
This is a tough one. We would need to start major campaign to raise
money to pay for TV commercial. First, we would need to find out how much it
would cost us on appropriate channels around the world. Also, we could
contact TV channels as well as any contributing companies that would want to
sponsor our campaign. We would have a page that showed how much we made and
how much we got left to reach our goal. Fliers, free internet ads, drives,
and etc would be appropriate tools to raise money.

After we would have our commercial and money, we would go live on TV screens
around the world...hurting competition with our freedom.

I would be able to provide webspace if needed for the contest page, not big
on web design though. Someone else can do that. =)

This is my proposal. Let's see what community thinks.

viktor
www.innprinte.com 
www.viktorix.com 


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Re: [Marketing] "OOo" vs."OO.o"

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> OOo is better to spell than OO.o.
> 
> It is also easier to type...

Plus, sentences look kinda funny when they end with OO.o.

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Re: [Marketing] Number of contributors

[John McCreesh]

I thought I'd seen some analysis of the number of committers to the
codebase ... ?

John

On Thu, 2007-11-29 at 14:35 +0100, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
> Tough question really. The codebase itself should be less than the 3000
> active contributors we have (a rough number, really) and should be
> around 200, but that's an educated guess at best.
> If you want to have the "real" number better ask Stefan Taxhet.
> 
> Best,
> Charles.
> 
> 
> John McCreesh a écrit :
> > I've had a request about how many people have contributed to the OOo
> > codebase - I'm sure someone here has done some work on this (Alexandro?
> > Charles? ..?)
> >
> > Thanks - John
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Re: [Marketing] Developer oriented Flyer

[Alexandro Colorado]

Hi guys just added some other shots about OOo-Extensions. If this is not  
good enough I guess we can just put the OpenOffice.org extension's logo  
(the yelow molecular asterisk).



On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:23:34 -0600, Alexandro Colorado  
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On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 02:36:44 -0600, Kay Koll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Alexandro,


You are totally right, .NET is not the only way to connect to OO.o but  
.NET is much easier to use as OLE/COM due to the fact that it is a  
language binding instead of the bridge. Using OLE/COM bridge is not  
that easy and the code looks a bit ugly but you can compare the .NET  
language binding with the C++ or Java binding.
You had used the term CLI in your original version, which is the  
underlining byte code language of .NET. The term .NET is better known  
as CLI. Please do not mix up CLI and OLE/COM both technologies have  
almost nothing to do with each other.


I usually use CLI for Command Line Interface which means pass parameter  
or data to applications like Firefox through the shell() function.  
Example shell(firefox, URL, 1).  I don't know or promote the use of .NET  
framework. The way the writing goes sounds like I am enforcing this  
platform which for the porpousees of this document is fine, but just  
stating that I never intended to mention. CLI is just another  
terminology that microsoft hijack.



Regards

Kay



Alexandro Colorado wrote:
I check your document and just to clarify something. To connect UNO  
with OLE and COM you don't necesarily need .NET. Accordin to this post  
you can make conections with UNO through com using Delphi, Python, C,  
C++, VisualBasic >6.0,  Ruby, TCL, and PHP.
  
http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=9815&sid=2b1e42d89efcb283168703cba170598e  
  On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:54:02 -0600, Kay Koll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:



Alexandro,

Excellent document.
It was easier for me to add my changes directly in the document. You  
find the edited document as a new attachment to bug #83739


It is unclear to me why the image on the second page shows Google  
Docs. Especially the Google Docs Extension is from the Extension  
development perspective a bad example (Swing Dialogs instead of OO.o  
dialogs)
A logo of the Weblog Publisher might be better due to the fact that  
this Extension follows the Extension design rules.


Regards

Kay



Alexandro Colorado wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 10:25:10 -0600, John McCreesh  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



On Sun, 2007-11-18 at 13:17 +, John McCreesh wrote:
[snip]

Created issue 8379 for this

http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=83739


I was thinking about this again while walking the dog this  
afternoon...

I guess we have four possible targets for this flyer:

(a) entry level hackers who could write and share macros
 (maybe? have we a repository for these?)
(b) intermediate level hackers who could write extensions
(c) expert hackers who could contribute to core OOo
(d) hackers/systems integrators who could use OOo componentry
 in their own applications

Is this correct? are (a) and / or (d) in scope? does (b) now replace
(a)?
 I included pieces from all 4 markets. From integrators, to core  
developers, to extension developers and macro developers. We could  
develop aditional flyers for each of them.


(I'm assuming that other contributors - e.g. translators - are out  
of
scope of this particular document, although we do need to market to  
them

too.)

 We could post it to the native-lang and see if it flies.


Why should any of these people want to contribute?
 I really think projects like code-snippet need a revamp so we can  
have much more code than what we had there. I was about to mention  
oooforum since it has a large repository of snippets while  
codesnippets haven't really pick up as much. Then again I think we  
should acomodate this emails for the developers to notice. i.e. send  
it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc.


- OOo is the leading open-source office suite - your code could be  
used

by tens
  of millions of grateful users tomorrow (including your
boyfriend/girlfriend, mum,
  dad, kids, colleagues...)
- Your extensions just look like regular OOo - you can't see the  
join

- OOo allows you to code in your language of choice

in addition, for (c)

- OOo is a complex system, developed over 20 years, and supported by
  talented volunteers and professional developers sponsored by some  
of

  the most respected names in IT (Sun, IBM, Novell, RedFlag, etc)
- Understanding the code is challenging but the community will go to
great
  lengths to support motivated and capable individuals
- Getting your code accepted is a testimonial your abilities as a
professional
  software engineer.

Do we need to get some of this into the Flyer?

John




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Re: [Marketing] The City of Heerenveen turns OpenOffice.org into a Web 2.0 enterprise environment

[Cor Nouws]

John McCreesh wrote (29-11-2007 14:15)

Interesting story from Holland:

http://www.webwire.com/ViewPressRel.asp?aId=53960


And congratulations to our friends from O3Spaces.org who do a really 
great job there!


Cor

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Re: [Marketing] query

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Hello Ramachandrarao,

we have several teams in India. So far, we have the Hindi, Bengali,
Punjabi, Tamil, Telugu, Maharati, Assamese, Gujarati, Malayalam, etc.
I can put you in contact with several of them if you wish.

Best,
Charles.


ramachandrarao maddali a écrit :
> india
>
> On Nov 27, 2007 5:00 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   
>> Hi Ramachandrarao,
>> Selon ramachandrarao maddali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>> 
>>> sir,
>>> i have jioned in openoffice but i donot jnow how to market it
>>>   
>> Where are you situated (I think Madagascar but I may be wrong :) ? This
>> will
>> help us to help you.
>> Kind regards
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Re: [Marketing] Number of contributors

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Tough question really. The codebase itself should be less than the 3000
active contributors we have (a rough number, really) and should be
around 200, but that's an educated guess at best.
If you want to have the "real" number better ask Stefan Taxhet.

Best,
Charles.


John McCreesh a écrit :
> I've had a request about how many people have contributed to the OOo
> codebase - I'm sure someone here has done some work on this (Alexandro?
> Charles? ..?)
>
> Thanks - John
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Re: [Marketing] Mission statement

[Charles-H. Schulz]

John, all,

may I point out that Wunna Ko Ko is making a double point here, one on
the technical aspect, and the other one because of the fact that he is
driving the Burmese OpenOffice.org community?
I think it's beautiful and courageous enough to be noticed. A pity I
cannot applause by mail... Let's try this perhaps: +1, +1 , +1...


Best,
Charles.


John McCreesh a écrit :
> Please add this to the wiki page...
>
> Thanks - John
>
> On Tue, November 27, 2007 22:24, Viktor wrote:
>   
>> Hey guys,
>>
>>   Studying a lot of business courses on wide variety of
>>
>> topics and going through leadership course last week, I learned
>>
>> that for successful business or campaign it requires two basic things:
>>
>> A vision and mission statement, having one without the other one is like
>>
>> having a car without any wheels, and vice versa. If some of you not
>> familiar
>> with this concept let me elaborate.
>>
>>
>>
>> These two concepts are part of a bigger picture, Strategic Planning.
>>
>> Learn more here about
>> http://www.answers.com/topic/strategic-planning?cat=biz-fin
>>
>>
>>
>> In a nutshell:
>>
>>
>>
>> * A Mission statement: tells you what the company is now. It
>> concentrates on present; it defines the customer(s), critical processes
>> and
>> it informs you about the desired level of performance.
>>
>>
>>
>> * A Vision statement: outlines what a company wants to be. It
>> concentrates on future; it is a source of inspiration; it provides clear
>> decision-making criteria.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Through mission statements, we try to reach our goals set by our vision
>> statement.
>>
>>
>>
>> It is my belief, for OOo marketing to be more successful and effective we
>> need to have a vision statement first - outlining the future for OOo, and
>> then knowing that blueprint for the future we can draft a mission
>> statement
>> that will help us achieve the goals set in the vision statement on a daily
>> basis.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Viktor Nagornyy
>>
>> OpenOffice.org   Marketing
>> Products only from INNprinte.com
>>
>> A Viktorix Innovative printing service.
>>
>> 
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Re: [Marketing] File Size Comparison

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Dear Wunna Ko Ko,

You are right. I shall talk about this in my blog. But please, my
friend, do what you have to do but do it as as safely as possible...

My best wishes,

Charles.

Wunna Ko Ko a écrit :
> Dear All,
>
> I make a file size comparison between Universal Declaration of Human
> Right (UDHR) text in English.
>
> MS Word: (doc) 36 KB
> OpenDoc: (odt)  21 KB
>
> The OpenDocument format is less than two-third of MS Word format.
>
> It may be an interesting issue for marketing since the users of
> OpenOffice can use less hard disk space for their data then users of
> MS Office.
>
> Regards,
>
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[Marketing] The City of Heerenveen turns OpenOffice.org into a Web 2.0 enterprise environment

[John McCreesh]

Interesting story from Holland:

http://www.webwire.com/ViewPressRel.asp?aId=53960

John
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OpenOffice.org

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