[marketing] Re: OpenOffice history and milestones
On Mon, April 19, 2010 5:00 pm, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi Lars, Lars Nooden wrote on 2010-04-18 13.04: The second link only has one page: http://newsrooms.prweb.com/OOo/page2.html If we use their service, it is still a good idea to have our own archive. thanks a lot for the tip. I've just seen that the PRWeb Newsroom has to be renewed, which costs. John: Does it make sense to renew the newsroom with one of our vouchers? Or do you think setting up our own newsroom on our site makes more sense? We used to keep our own newsroom (see the cvs history) but when PRWeb launched their newsroom service it was much easier to use theirs (one less site to maintain). They let us use the service free of charge. John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project co-Lead - OpenOffice.org The 2010 office software of choice - http://why.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] how planet is maintained?
It's run automatically by a cron job: crontab -l # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE - edit the master and reinstall. # (/tmp/crontab.VG0ruz installed on Fri Jan 1 10:10:42 2010) # (Cron version V5.0 -- $Id: crontab.c,v 1.12 2004/01/23 18:56:42 vixie Exp $) # m h dom mon dow 0 1,7,13,19 * * * /opt/planet/planet.sh The source code is from http://www.planetplanet.org/ John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project co-Lead - OpenOffice.org The 2010 office software of choice - http://why.openoffice.org On Tue, March 16, 2010 12:35 am, Maho NAKATA wrote: Hi John, How planet is maintained? Are you committing by yourself (I hardly believe)? I'm planning such kind of things - and learn from you. Best, -- Nakata Maho http://accc.riken.jp/maho/ , http://ja.openoffice.org/ Nakata Maho's PGP public keys: http://accc.riken.jp/maho/maho.pgp.txt - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Re: [council-discuss] Call for Nominations for Community Council Seats
On 02/03/2010, Florian Effenberger flo...@openoffice.org wrote: Hi Louis, Louis Suarez-Potts wrote on 2010-02-27 17.31: On behalf of the Community Council, I would like to announce the new round of elections for the Council and start the process by asking the OpenOffice.org Community members to nominate those they think would best contribute both to the Council and to OpenOffice.org. You may nominate yourself. [snip] I'd like to nominate John McCreesh, Co-Lead of the Marketing Project and its former Lead, for a second term. John has ever since been working in the spirit of the community, and I respect his wisdom and his way of collaborating, as well as his enthusiasm. I'm sure that having him on the Council for a second term would greatly contribute to the efforts of our community. I already asked John, and he agreed to being nominated for a second term. I'd like to thank Florian for his nomination, but after careful consideration I've decided not to stand for re-election after all. The Council Constitution states Product development and Lang members are discouraged from serving successive terms and I think this is a wise provision for all CC members. It's been a privilege to serve the Community on the Council, but I believe that we should encourage new people to stand, to bring new perspectives and new energy to the Council. When a well known face stands for re-election, others are reluctant to put their names forward. So, thanks to all who have sent your kind messages of support - and if anyone has been hesitating about putting their names forward, please don't wait to be asked - give it a try! John - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Funding request for a Visual Identity meeting in Hamburg
This request has provoked some very interesting discussion on the dev@ list which I am sure Florian will take forward. After reading the email chain, my judgment is that the MP has not turned down this request, so I'll pass it on the the CC treasurer for processing. John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project co-Lead - OpenOffice.org The 2010 office software of choice - http://why.openoffice.org On Wed, January 6, 2010 3:30 pm, Rosana Ardila Biela wrote: Hi Everybody, I would like to ask for funding for a visual identity meeting in Hamburg. Florian Effenberger and Bernhard Dippold will be in the Sun office on the 12th and 13th January and we will discuss Bernhard's idea of a new Branding project. As this is an important issue that touches a lot of marketing subjects I would like to ask the marketing project for funding. For their travel expenses we calculated 600 Euros. Thanks, Rosana - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] OpenOffice complaints from Danish Students
Can it be true that a school union complained to the Danish Lyngby-Taarbaek Municipality council and mayor after they put the schools on to FOSS productivity software? http://community.zdnet.co.uk/blog/0,100567,10014804o-2000673651b,00.htm John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project co-Lead - OpenOffice.org The 2010 office software of choice - http://why.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Proposed change of Marketing Project Lead
Those of you with long memories may remember that Jacqueline asked me to become co-lead of the Marketing Project in April 2004. One of my first tasks was to compile a strategy for the MP, which was published at OOoCon 2004 as The OpenOffice.org Strategic Marketing Plan 2005-2010. I then became Lead in May 2006, with the SMP as my bible. We have now reached the magic year 2010, and I feel it is time for the MP to benefit from fresh leadership. Since June 2007 I have had tremendous support from Florian as my co-Lead, and I would like to recommend him to you as the right person to lead the MP from 2010 onwards. As we're entering a busy period (3.2 to launch, OOoCon 2011 to award, MS-Office 2010 to compete with..) I have offered to stay on as co-Lead until Florian finds co-Lead(s) to help him. OOo's procedures state: Transitioning from one Project Lead to another is almost always a graceful and smooth affair. The Project Lead or leads are encouraged to nominate their successors, who must be members of the project, and hold a plebiscite on the primary public mail list. So, I would ask you all to confirm whether you are happy to endorse this change of Lead, and if so, please welcome Florian and give him your support as he takes up this challenging position. John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org The 2010 office software of choice - http://why.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Is OpenOffice.org a Threat? Microsoft Thinks So
On Thu, December 31, 2009 11:49 am, Cor Nouws wrote: John McCreesh wrote (29-12-09 17:16) ...until now, most people have tended to dismiss the open source office project as a distant runner-up to Microsoft Office, and certainly not a serious contender. Microsoft obviously feels otherwise, which means that OpenOffice.org is clearly doing something right. http://www.computerworlduk.com/community/blogs/index.cfm?entryid=2712blogid=14 Important news John. I just see it is also covered by Dutch IT web-magazines. The more we all blog about it, the more visibility it will get. It's been on /. but I'm more interested in seeing it in the mainstream press. Many thanks to Russell Ossendryver for bringing it to our attention in the first place! John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Join the hundred million - http://why.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Why does Microsoft fear OpenOffice.org?
Most people think that [OOo's] barely a blip on Microsoft's radar. Clearly, it's far more than that, and the numbers back that up. http://blogs.computerworld.com/15327/why_does_microsoft_fear_openoffice_org This story is now starting to gain momentum - if you are looking for a topic for a New Year's blog, may I suggest this one ;-) John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Join the hundred million - http://why.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Is OpenOffice.org a Threat? Microsoft Thinks So
...until now, most people have tended to dismiss the open source office project as a distant runner-up to Microsoft Office, and certainly not a serious contender. Microsoft obviously feels otherwise, which means that OpenOffice.org is clearly doing something right. http://www.computerworlduk.com/community/blogs/index.cfm?entryid=2712blogid=14 John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Join the hundred million - http://why.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Download statistics
Those of you who watch the download counter closely (on http://marketing.openoffice.org/planet/ ) may have noticed a jump of about 700k today in the total 3.1 downloads. The reason for this is that we are changing the technology which sends downloaders to mirror sites when they visit http://downloads.openoffice.org. The old 'Bouncer' mechanism is being replaced by 'MirrorBrain', which should give users a better download experience (e.g. by directing them to a geographically close site) and give us better statistics (e.g. filtering out of spammers, and also recording the country where the user is located - based on their IP). MB has been under test for a few months, and the downloads served by MB have not been appearing in our download counter. This has now been fixed both for historic downloads and ongoing, so the counter now shows both MB and Bouncer. The plan is to migrate fully to MB for the launch of 3.2. Once we have accumulated some history we'll be looking at ways of using the data - especially the 'by country' data, which we have never had in the past. I'd like to thank Peter Pöml for his efforts in getting MB up and running for us. Great work, Peter! John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Join the hundred million - http://why.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Virtual OOoCon 2011?
On Fri, December 18, 2009 10:52 pm, Bernhard Dippold wrote: [snip] For myself I don't want to reduce the number of personal meetings, but we should try to make them as environmental friendly as possible. Christine's idea is a good compromise - small local meetings with a central virtual conference. In my opinion these RegiCons should be located at places where many OOo members don't need to move (or move just a short distance). A few years ago I presented at the BrOffice annual conference from a video conferencing suite in Scotland. The Conference was run in a number of locations in Brazil via video link. Maybe we should ask them to share their experience? John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Join the hundred million - http://why.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Virtual OOoCon 2011?
On Wed, December 16, 2009 7:48 am, Florian Effenberger wrote: [snip] that might be an option, and I don't object of having virtual conferences and RegiCons next to the OOoCon. However, at least one OOoCon a year is crucial, IMHO. But would you think the same if you lived in New Zealand - or Canada - or Vietnam? I enjoy OOoCons very much, meeting old friends, and making new ones. I don't know how effective they are for attracting new community members. A team needs to be already well established and successful to make a successful bid for an OOoCon. We have never held an OOoCon in North America, where our presence is comparatively weak. I don't know whether a virtual OOoCon would be more successful in building the community. It would certainly cause less damage to the planet. I think this is a valuable discussion, and would encourage others to join in! John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Join the hundred million - http://why.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] T-Shirts for FOSDEM etc
As anyone reading this list will know ;-) Juergen is working on having some T-Shirts for FOSDEM. He has now requested about 1500 Euro 'up front' funding from the Marketing Project budget for 200 T-Shirts. If anyone has anyone objections, please start a discussion on this list asap. Thanks - John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Join the hundred million - http://why.openoffice.org Original Message Subject: T-Shirts From:Juergen Schmidt juergen.schm...@sun.com Date:Wed, December 16, 2009 12:27 pm To: Florian Effenberger flo...@openoffice.org John McCreesh jp...@openoffice.org -- Hi Florian, hi John, you have probably noticed the ongoing efforts for some new t-shirts. I expect a final design by the end of the week and i have already a quote for production. 200 shirts (including some extra shirts for woman) with a small official OOo logo on the front (right above the heart) and the designed image on the back. The quality will be the same as this year. I have an offer for ~1495 Euro (depending on the deliver costs). It's 7.5 Euro per shirt which is ok from my point of view. What do you think would it be possible to pay the shirts from the marketing budget again? Expecting to get some money back from donations! It's also possible to produce some more shirts if necessary or wanted. Juergen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] OpenOffice.org Tops The Best of PRWeb for 2009
PRWeb, the online news distribution service of Vocus (NASDAQ: VOCS), today announced that an OpenOffice.org news release was named the winner of The Best of PRWeb contest. http://www.prweb.com/releases/prweb-awards/2009-winner/prweb3342904.htm Thanks to all on the PR list for your work - it's been recognised. Let's see if we can do it again in 2010 when we announce 3.2! John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Join the hundred million - http://why.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] OOo Presentation Kit
To help discussion, I've put together some simple sketches of how the Presentation Kit could work. Reminder: we have a professionally printed generic OOo folder like http://www.folderprinting.co.uk/a4-single-pocket-flat-interlocking-folder.html We then fill this with appropriate inserts. For example, for each application we could have one A4 sheet with an eye-catching glossy front, and more detailed information about the application on the reverse side. The sort of thing I have in mind for the front side: http://www.mealldubh.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/product_inserts.odg (Note: these would go inside the Presentation Kit, but they could also be enlarged and used as posters, or even put as advertisements in magazines.) I am *not* a graphic artist! these are simple 'sketches' for discussion - we'd need the art project to turn them into something useful. The reverse side of these would have the detailed description of the application. Any comments? Thanks - John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Join the hundred million - http://why.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Virtual OOoCon 2011?
It's approaching the time of year when we start asking for proposals for OOoCon (OOoCon 2011 this time). As our contribution to reducing OOo's carbon footprint, should we go for a virtual conference instead? http://www.montanalinux.org/review-red-hat-virtual-experience-2009.html John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Join the hundred million - http://why.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Status of 3.2 release
From taody's releases meeting: We are in good shape based on todays status to release OOo 3.2 RC1 end of this week. that will be the OOO320m8 If there are no showstoppers in the RC, this would suggest public availability of 3.2 in 2nd week of January 2010. John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Join the hundred million - http://why.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] OOo Pamphlet?
I agree with Alexandro - I prefer the more graphical look of the Education Flyer. I think this particular flyer is good, although I think it could be improved by targeting the message better, and making more use of the available space. I also believe we should avoid proprietary software to create marketing materials, especially when the pdfs they create do not print correctly on the most common Linux pdf viewer :( As an early warning, for our 2010 marketing work I'll be looking to source some new brochures for conferences etc. There was some off-line discussion about this at OOoCon - one suggestion that went down well was to go 'mix and match'. So, we'd have a high quality, global, 'language neutral' folder - think http://www.folderprinting.co.uk/a4-folders.html - which we would use with inserts as appropriate: - for a small event - e.g. at a university - a local team could print out / photocopy black and white A4 inserts in the local language - for a large consumer event we could have one insert per 'application' (Writer, Calc, etc) printed full colour The folder could also contain a product DVD if appropriate. Feedback welcomed - would this work? Thanks - John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Join the hundred million - http://why.openoffice.org On Fri, December 11, 2009 1:56 am, Alexandro Colorado wrote: My particular opinion is that is too plain and that it has too much information which is not the best for a flyer since you want them to learn key things. Writing too much could make the people just don't read it or not remember what they read. Have you seen the Flyers for developers: http://ui.openoffice.org/VisualDesign/OOo_flyerEdu_final.html In my point of view this present a more visual appealing flyer with not too much information but enough to make it relevant. On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 7:52 PM, Andy Brown a...@the-martin-byrd.net wrote: Alexandro Colorado wrote: url? At http://www.the-martin-byrd.net/OOoPamphletv5.pdf ,it has been there since the 27th of November. -- Andy Brown La Mesa, CA Â 91942 www.the-martin-byrd.net/openoffice.org.html OpenOffice.org Community Distributor CD/OEM Distribution Project member Documentation Project member Marketing Project member User Experience Project member - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org -- Alexandro Colorado OpenOffice.org Espantilde;ol IM: j...@jabber.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Design ideas/slogan ...
On Wed, December 9, 2009 6:38 pm, Ian wrote: On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 19:27 +0100, Juergen Schmidt wrote: Hi Bernd, the relation to mobile apps was indeed intended ;-) But i am flexible, the problem is we need some ideas and the time is running. We have to nail down the desing before Christmas, otherwise we will run again into trouble with the production etc. I think the 100 million downloads is an excellent focus. I used it recently at a trade conference and you could see the jaws drop. Most people still don't see OOo as that big. We need to capitalise on such things. The exact details are less important than the central message that OOo is massive and global. 100 million provides the substance to that. Agreed. It's also a number that we have hard evidence for, and which we can prove significantly understates the true figure - http://marketing.openoffice.org/marketing_bouncer_faq.html John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Join the hundred million - http://why.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Statistics on good-day.net
On Mon, December 7, 2009 12:55 pm, Cor Nouws wrote: John McCreesh wrote (4-12-2009 13:25) Is there a problem? For me there is: no download data was recoreded on the day you specified, 05 Dec 2009. The last date when the latest download log was updated was 29 Nov 2009. Takashi, is this something you can fix? Thanks - John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Join the hundred million - http://why.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] [Fwd: [releases] 3.2 New Features page]
Good input. I think ODF is OASIS's baby rather than the W3Cs, but I like your explanation of what ODF is. I'm not as sure about having a separate technical improvement section: how about using bulleted lists as you suggest, but as a visual clue that this is technical information? I think this makes it easier for people to 'skim read' the page on the web if they are just after highlights. Folks, thanks for all your comments. I've been asked by translators to get the text finalised by close of business today so that they can get busy... Thanks - John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Join the hundred million - http://why.openoffice.org On Sun, December 6, 2009 3:55 am, Christine Louise Beems wrote: I comprehend 'brain dead', John :-) Following is some alternative copy for your consideration, prefaced by explaining that only the text up to (my added) 'technical imrovements' heading has been revised... however the text following that (up to the snip) was left in place verbatim to include a formatting note on Proprietary File Types and the text on Writer wherein [as the brackets identify] there is a sentence that seems to me to make no sense smile. Also in the alternative text, note the addition of a footnote aimed most specifically at communicating accurate information to mainstream reporters, one of whom I heard on CNN the other day making comments regarding OpenSource ideologies which (I believe) were errantly based. Anyway, hope these comments prove useful. Glad my previous notes made sense. Thanks for all the pains you take to 'get it right'. ~Christine NEW CORE IMPROVEMENTS Faster start up times OpenOffice.org 3.2 Calc and Writer have both reduced 'cold start' time by 46% since version 3.0 was released just over a year ago. Enhanced ODF Support Open Document Format (ODF) standards, as promulgated by the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C)*, sets international compatibility criteria for the electronic/digital storage of documents. These standards recognize the importance of interoperability and intelligent information exchange and seek, for example, to ensure that office documents created today on any given computer system will be readable by other computer systems everywhere, including the technology of tomorrow. OpenOffice.org 3.2 has made great strides in compliance with ODF 1.2, including closer conformance to OASIS ODFF/OpenFormula specifications. Proprietary File Support OpenOffice.org 3.2 supports the import of password protected Microsoft Office XML files. (for a list of all supported file types, click here) [*footnote: The W3C is the main international standards organization for the World Wide Web. Founded and headed by Sir Tim Berners-Lee, the consortium is made up of member organizations which maintain full-time staff for the purpose of working together in the development of standards for the World Wide Web. W3C also engages in education and outreach, develops software and serves as an open forum for discussion about the Web. As of 8 September 2009, the W3C has 356 members. In accord of this ongoing improvement process, on November 13, 2009, Mary P McRae, Director, Standards Development and Technical Committee Administration OASIS, initiated the public review procedure for Part 3 of the OpenDocument Format 1.2 specification.] TECHNICAL IMPROVEMENTS As OpenOffice.org 3.2 currently requires a superset of the ODF 1.2 specification, the software now warns users when ODF 1.2 Extended features have been used. The document integrity check now proves whether an ODF document conforms to the ODF specification (this mainly affects ODF 1.2 documents). If an inconsistency is found, the document is treated as a broken one, and OpenOffice.org offers to repair the document. Proprietary File Support OpenOffice.org 3.2 supports the import of password protected Microsoft Office XML files. All document types are supported that are handled by the MSO XML import filters: - MS Word 2007 documents (*.docx, *.docm) - MS Word 2007 templates (*.dotx, *.dotm) - MS Excel 2007 documents (*.xlsx, *.xlsm) - MS Excel 2007 binary documents (*.xlsb) - MS Excel 2007 templates (*.xltx, *.xltm) - MS Powerpoint 2007 documents (*.pptx, *.pptm) - MS Powerpoint 2007 templates (*.potx, *.potm). [NOTE: This would be easier to read as a bulleted list.] Encryption support within the Microsoft Word 97/2000/XP filter allows password protected Microsoft Word documents to be saved (using the Microsoft Office standard RC4 algorithm). Filters for AportisDoc and PocketWord now support type detection based on DocType. As a result, files in these formats can be loaded without explicitly selecting the document type in the file picker. When writing string data to SYLK files, embedded double quotes are no longer escaped by doubling; semicolons are now escaped by doubling. This improves compatibility with files created by other
Re: [marketing] [Fwd: [releases] 3.2 New Features page]
OK, how's this: http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/features/3.2/beta.html#general_file John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Join the hundred million - http://why.openoffice.org On Fri, December 4, 2009 5:39 pm, Makoto Takizawa wrote: Hi John. I know just this. [1] http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/SpreadsheetML [2] http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=devmsgNo=25335 [3] http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Feature_Freeze_Testing_3.2 dr68 in DEV300m53 : Calc fixes, OOXML filter thank you. On Fri, 4 Dec 2009 09:00:43 - (GMT) John McCreesh jp...@openoffice.org wrote: I couldn't see this in http://development.openoffice.org/releases/OOO320_m6_snapshot.html Can you give me some more information? Thanks - John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Join the hundred million - http://why.openoffice.org On Fri, December 4, 2009 3:21 am, Makoto Takizawa wrote: hi there. I think we should write down about XLSX/XLSB import of OLE objects. It is good news for user:) Import embedded and linked OLE objects(Chart...etc) from XLSX/XLSB files http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=100688 On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 18:41:34 - (GMT) John McCreesh jp...@openoffice.org wrote: Original Message Subject: [releases] 3.2 New Features page From:John McCreesh jp...@openoffice.org Date:Wed, December 2, 2009 6:31 pm To: relea...@openoffice.org -- The text content of the usual 'New Features' page is now nearing completion: http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/features/3.2/beta.html When we announce a new release, we issue a Press Release and a posting to announce@ which list the 'to die for' new features of interest to the media / end users. The 'New Features' page is the next level of detail, again aimed at end users. It includes screenshots where possible to illustrate the new features - see the 3.1 version: http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/features/3.1/ Please have a look through the text and let me know of any factual errors, or if there's anything missing which end users should know about in the core product (not extensions). Thanks as always John - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] 3.2 New Features page ready for translators
I've been asked when the final version of the 3.2 New Features page will be ready for people wanting to do translations. I think most of the feedback is now in, and I will take a lot of persuasion to make any further edits to the version now at http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/features/3.2/beta.html :-) John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Join the hundred million - http://why.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] [Fwd: [releases] 3.2 New Features page]
On Thu, December 3, 2009 10:15 pm, Christine Louise Beems wrote: re: The 'New Features' page is the next level of detail, again aimed at end users. From the perspective of an end user (me) who is proficient with various productivity applications yet ignorant about the importance/significance of confirmity with OASIS ODFF/OpenFormula specifications, ISO approved vendor-neutral document storage, or the standard RC4 algorithm, most of what's written goes way over my head and -- respectfully -- 'scares' folks who are of my ilk. Good points. Have a look at the new text about ODF. Not sure I can do much about RC4 other than put it in parentheses. For example, in one instance it seems that what is being said could be understood to mean that new OOo 3.2 filters enable the loading of many 'unknown file type' documents without trying to figure out what program to use... but I am not sure if this is actually what is meant or if I have misconstrued. Agreed and changed. I do understand that the New Features page is not intended to be 'promotional' copy. Also that a lot of people have far more literacy with these various technical improvements and will be favorably impressed by the things I do not understand. When the developers comment on 'New Features' they are keen to see precise statements of what has changed - which is often quite technical - so it's important to get feedback from Marketing Project folks as well. Do please feel free to suggest alternative text for anything you don't like. My brain starts to go dead after a few days of this :-) John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Join the hundred million - http://why.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] [Fwd: [releases] 3.2 New Features page]
I couldn't see this in http://development.openoffice.org/releases/OOO320_m6_snapshot.html Can you give me some more information? Thanks - John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Join the hundred million - http://why.openoffice.org On Fri, December 4, 2009 3:21 am, Makoto Takizawa wrote: hi there. I think we should write down about XLSX/XLSB import of OLE objects. It is good news for user:) Import embedded and linked OLE objects(Chart...etc) from XLSX/XLSB files http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=100688 On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 18:41:34 - (GMT) John McCreesh jp...@openoffice.org wrote: Original Message Subject: [releases] 3.2 New Features page From:John McCreesh jp...@openoffice.org Date:Wed, December 2, 2009 6:31 pm To: relea...@openoffice.org -- The text content of the usual 'New Features' page is now nearing completion: http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/features/3.2/beta.html When we announce a new release, we issue a Press Release and a posting to announce@ which list the 'to die for' new features of interest to the media / end users. The 'New Features' page is the next level of detail, again aimed at end users. It includes screenshots where possible to illustrate the new features - see the 3.1 version: http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/features/3.1/ Please have a look through the text and let me know of any factual errors, or if there's anything missing which end users should know about in the core product (not extensions). Thanks as always John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Join the hundred million - http://why.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Makoto Takizawa(alias Shu Minari )@ +81 Osaka,Japan - Enjoy and Keep Smiling in 525,600 Min - =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] [Fwd: [releases] 3.2 New Features page]
On Fri, December 4, 2009 7:31 am, Malte Timmermann wrote: John McCreesh wrote, On 12/03/09 22:58: On Thu, December 3, 2009 2:13 pm, Malte Timmermann wrote: Well, not really a feature, but: Shouldn't we mention the improved startup-performance (cold start)? Yes! Have we some figures? I will ask someone to collect data with latest 3.2 version vs. 3.1.1. Malte. Thanks. It would be great to be able to link to a posting on http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS/tags/performance ... John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Join the hundred million - http://why.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] [Fwd: [releases] 3.2 New Features page]
Looks good. Are those for XP? Thanks -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Join the hundred million - http://why.openoffice.org On Fri, December 4, 2009 9:25 am, Malte Timmermann wrote: Maybe the Wiki page created from RF2000 is good enough? http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Performance/Report/Perfomrance_Report_for_Startup Malte. John McCreesh wrote, On 12/04/09 10:03: On Fri, December 4, 2009 7:31 am, Malte Timmermann wrote: John McCreesh wrote, On 12/03/09 22:58: On Thu, December 3, 2009 2:13 pm, Malte Timmermann wrote: Well, not really a feature, but: Shouldn't we mention the improved startup-performance (cold start)? Yes! Have we some figures? I will ask someone to collect data with latest 3.2 version vs. 3.1.1. Malte. Thanks. It would be great to be able to link to a posting on http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS/tags/performance ... John - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] [Fwd: [releases] 3.2 New Features page]
On Fri, December 4, 2009 11:30 am, Malte Timmermann wrote: John McCreesh wrote, On 12/04/09 11:22: Looks good. Are those for XP? Details here: http://performance.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=devmsgNo=359 http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/features/3.2/beta.html#general_speed Thanks again - John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Join the hundred million - http://why.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Statistics on good-day.net
Is there a problem? Thanks - John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Join the hundred million - http://why.openoffice.org On Fri, December 4, 2009 12:03 pm, Leif Lodahl wrote: Hi, Does anyone know why the statistics on good-day.net hasn't been updated for days now? http://ooopackages.good-day.net/bouncer/query_chart.rb It seems as there is no data since November 29th. I would very much like to get a complete statistics for November. Best regards, Leif Lodahl DA.OpenOffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] [Fwd: [releases] 3.2 New Features page]
On Wed, December 2, 2009 6:56 pm, Steven Shelton wrote: [snip] Found some typos: Fixed thanks. Can users now print tables in Base? I had heard that this was going to be possible, but I haven't seen any documentation of it. If so, it should be included. (That's always been one of my pet peeves; if I want to print a table, I have to export it to Calc or something instead of just hitting PRINT.) Interesting idea ... I'm not aware anyone's working on it. John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Join the hundred million - http://why.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] [Fwd: [releases] 3.2 New Features page]
On Wed, December 2, 2009 9:05 pm, Ivan M wrote: Hi John, One more typo: Encription (wrong spelling) under the heading Proprietary file support Thanks - John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Join the hundred million - http://why.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] [Fwd: [releases] 3.2 New Features page]
On Thu, December 3, 2009 2:13 pm, Malte Timmermann wrote: Well, not really a feature, but: Shouldn't we mention the improved startup-performance (cold start)? Yes! Have we some figures? Thanks - John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Join the hundred million - http://why.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] We're through to the top three
Our Press Release for the 3.1 launch has been judged one of the three top online news releases of 2009: http://www.prweb.com/releases/top-three/releases-2009/prweb3285904.htm You can vote for the overall winner here: http://www.prweb.com/pr/best-online-news-releases-2009.html Let's hope lots of people vote for us - it would be good publicity for the Community. John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Join the hundred million - http://why.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] [Fwd: [releases] 3.2 New Features page]
Original Message Subject: [releases] 3.2 New Features page From:John McCreesh jp...@openoffice.org Date:Wed, December 2, 2009 6:31 pm To: relea...@openoffice.org -- The text content of the usual 'New Features' page is now nearing completion: http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/features/3.2/beta.html When we announce a new release, we issue a Press Release and a posting to announce@ which list the 'to die for' new features of interest to the media / end users. The 'New Features' page is the next level of detail, again aimed at end users. It includes screenshots where possible to illustrate the new features - see the 3.1 version: http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/features/3.1/ Please have a look through the text and let me know of any factual errors, or if there's anything missing which end users should know about in the core product (not extensions). Thanks as always John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Join the hundred million - http://why.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] ODF desktop icons for OOo
On Thu, November 26, 2009 6:59 pm, Bernhard Dippold wrote: [snip] 1. ODF branding is important, but should not lead to weakening of OOo branding on user's desktops. 2. The OOo document icons are part of our visual identity and therefore used in several marketing areas. We should not give up this chance as there might be an alternative (icons with both branding elements). I remember how annoyed I was when I installed an early beta of Lotus Symphony and it replaced all my OOo desktop icons with the horribly garish IBM ones. As ODF becomes established, users may well have multiple ODF supporting applications on their desktops. So IMHO having all those applications sharing a standard set of desktop icons is not terribly useful. Users need to know what application will start when they click an icon. John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Join the hundred million - http://why.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] OpenOffice.org shortlisted for Best Online News Releases 2009 award
On Thu, November 26, 2009 9:45 am, Lars Nooden wrote: John McCreesh wrote: http://www.prweb.com/pr/best-online-news-releases-2009.html Congratulations. What where the evaluation criteria for the selection? http://www.prweb.com/pr/best-of-faq.html John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Join the hundred million - http://why.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] OOoCon 2009 presentations
On Thu, November 26, 2009 6:42 pm, Cor Nouws wrote: Alexandro Colorado wrote (26-11-2009 19:15) Because is easier to look at the presentation without having to do much clicking or downloading, and also they are much more public and visible than that site. Plus you can add comments and discussions, and overally speaking more web 2.0 (sharing to fb, twitter, wordpress etc). Ah, that makes sense, if people use it of course. The disadvantage is that OCS keeps track of the number of views for each presentation. It will be useful for next year's OOoCon to know which presentations were the most interesting... John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Join the hundred million - http://why.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] OOoCon Videos
On Fri, November 20, 2009 11:51 pm, Alexandro Colorado wrote: Hi I would love to see the videos that took place, but I havent been able to see them nor on Totem or VLC. Is there a way I can get a FTP/HTTP download URL for these videos. Also they seem to be chopped by day as opposed by talk. Any efforts on cataloging them? The videos are available on http://media.lscube.org/oooconf. For people who can't access these, I've copied the source .ogg files to the OOoCon website, and you can download them from there. They range from 58Mb - 595Mb in size. The files are named video_43.ogg to video_60.ogg, and can be downloaded from http://conference.services.openoffice.org/index.php/ooocon/index/manager/files/OOoCon2009_videos/video_43.ogg?download=1 etc. Note that you have to be logged in to OCS to do this. Unfortunately I haven't got an index of these files. Each file contains a number of conference sessions, and as you say it would be great if some kind person could chop each file into separate conference sessions. We could then store each .ogg file on the web site alongside the presentation. John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Join the hundred million - http://why.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] OpenOffice.org shortlisted for Best Online News Releases 2009 award
http://www.prweb.com/pr/best-online-news-releases-2009.html John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Join the hundred million - http://why.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Re: [project leads] updates on OOMouse
On Mon, November 9, 2009 5:46 pm, Frank Loehmann wrote: Hi Louis, Thank you for clarifying this. Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: The latest from Theo of OOMouse is that he is making the changes in his PR copy and site that more accurately reflect the relationship between OpenOffice.org and his work. I hope this change also includes the removal of the [...] The Mouse team have worked closely with experts from the OpenOffice.org User Experience project to deliver the full benefits of the world's leading open-source office software to the fingertips of users. [...] [1] Liz only had mail contact to Theo and provided him public available usage data from the User Feedback Program [2], so that he could configure his mouse on real usage data. So talking about worked closely with experts from the OpenOffice.org User Experience project is misleading and he never asked for a permission for this quote. I hold my hand up for this quote. With hindsight I should have cleared it with a UX project lead, so my apologies, but from the emails I was cc'd on I would say it is fair comment. John - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Oracle's plans for OpenOffice.org
'OpenOffice's future as open source appears to be assured; After the transaction closes, Oracle plans to continue developing and supporting OpenOffice as open source. Oracle plans to offer a commercial license for OpenOffice for larger customers who require support and enterprise tools' http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Oracle-clarifies-plans-for-Java-tools-and-OpenOffice-843661.html John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Come to OOoCon in November - http://www.ooocon.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] German City Münster Launches Pilot Project For its Schools To Adopt Open Source Software
The city of Münster has started a pilot using OpenOffice in schools. The city's IT department, Citeq, will also switch all of the 150 servers used in its primary and secondary schools to GNU/Linux. Half of these have already been migrated to open source. http://www.egovmonitor.com/node/29337 John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Come to OOoCon in November - http://www.ooocon.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] MS patent on XML documents ??
The US District Court of Eastern Texas has granted an injunction to prevent Microsoft from selling copies of Word because it infringes a patent owned by another company. The long-running court case was brought by Canadian software firm i4i which won $200m in damages from Microsoft when a jury found it had willfully infringed a patent relating to XML custom formatting. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/08/12/texas_oulaws_word/ John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Developers - join us! see http://council.openoffice.org/developers.html On Wed, August 12, 2009 11:43, Alex Fisher wrote: Found the Australian application. It was lodged in Australia on 27th May, 2003. I'm going to investigate a little further about how one goes about notifying prior art (won't really help if the patent has been granted in the us, Australia will probably just rubber stamp it). Cor Nouws wrote: Hi JÃŒrgen, Juergen Schmidt wrote (12-8-2009 7:25) The FLatXML filter is as example part of the SDK since years. I don't know exactly and have to check it but i assume it is part since the beginning of the SDK. [...] And that was when? May 2003 (see the old cvs repo) when i have checked in the filter in the SDK. OK, if my memory serves me right, that was about 2 years before MS applied for their patent (there needs to be a proper check, but IIRC they applied in 2005 or thereabouts). I'll see if I still have the PDF of the application somewhere. I believe the US Patent office has a bad habit of not checking for, or ignoring notifications of, prior art. From the reading I've done, the SOP is to grant the patent and *then* fight about prior art. Juergen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org -- Alex Fisher Co-Lead, CD-ROM Project OpenOffice.org Marketing Community Contact Australia/New Zealand http://distribution.openoffice.org/cdrom/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Chinese Microsoft Office Web Apps Rival Launching Soon
A Chinese company that offers a rival suite to Microsoft Office is following industry trends by turning its software into a Web-based service. Evermore Software, based in the eastern Chinese city of Wuxi, has for years offered a software suite that looks very similar to Microsoft Office but costs less. Now the company sees its rivals moving online, and it is designing a Web version of its suite to compete with the likes of Google Docs and Microsoft's upcoming Office Web apps. http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/aug2009/tc2009089_897536.htm John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Developers - join us! see http://council.openoffice.org/developers.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Chinese Microsoft Office Web Apps Rival Launching Soon
On Wed, August 12, 2009 19:22, Alexandro Colorado wrote: On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 13:14:10 -0500, John McCreesh jp...@openoffice.org wrote: A Chinese company that offers a rival suite to Microsoft Office is following industry trends by turning its software into a Web-based service. Evermore Software, based in the eastern Chinese city of Wuxi, has for years offered a software suite that looks very similar to Microsoft Office but costs less. Now the company sees its rivals moving online, and it is designing a Web version of its suite to compete with the likes of Google Docs and Microsoft's upcoming Office Web apps. http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/aug2009/tc2009089_897536.htm John Any coments on this beside the quotes? I wondered what we knew about it - anyone from RedOffice care to contribute? John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Developers - join us! see http://council.openoffice.org/developers.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Twenty million downloads
The version 3.1 download counter on the Marketing Planet http://marketing.openoffice.org/planet/ passed the twenty million mark yesterday - another landmark! John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Developers - join us! see http://council.openoffice.org/developers.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] A so called tutorial about OpenOffice.org on Linux.com
On Tue, August 4, 2009 20:49, MÁTÉ Gergely wrote: [snip] I usually send PDF files, and attach the ODF if the other party is supposed to edit it. In the worst case scenario I send RTF. It is something like vegetarianism. I hadn't thought of it like that before :-) But it's true - when veggie friends come round for dinner, they expect meat-free meals. Howveer, when I go to their place, they don't put their beliefs aside and serve me a nice juicy steak... John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Developers - join us! see http://council.openoffice.org/developers.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] A so called tutorial about OpenOffice.org on Linux.com
On Wed, August 5, 2009 16:29, Drew Jensen wrote: John McCreesh wrote: On Tue, August 4, 2009 20:49, MÁTÉ Gergely wrote: [snip] I usually send PDF files, and attach the ODF if the other party is supposed to edit it. In the worst case scenario I send RTF. It is something like vegetarianism. I hadn't thought of it like that before :-) But it's true - when veggie friends come round for dinner, they expect meat-free meals. Howveer, when I go to their place, they don't put their beliefs aside and serve me a nice juicy steak... John Interesting analogy - Now exactly whom is playing which role? As our maths lecturer used to say: EER (easy exercise for reader) :-) John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Developers - join us! see http://council.openoffice.org/developers.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] new why page
On Thu, July 16, 2009 00:03, Ivan M wrote: Hi John, On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 1:42 AM, John McCreeshjp...@openoffice.org wrote: I think these have different audiences. * the products pages are focused on the features of OOo: what does each of the apps do? has Calc got a solver feature? etc. * the why pages are focused on benefits: why should I use OOo? what needs does it fill? Those are perfectly valid questions, but there may also be others, like: What do I get with OOo? (e.g. with MS Office, there are many product editions, many of which contain programs like Outlook, Groove, etc, which OOo doesn't have equivalents for.) Another could be What can I do with the programs in OOo? I think the products page is intended to address these kinds of questions. However, I envision the people asking these questions as a subset of the same audience that might head to why.OOo for their answers, and I would see the people asking the questions you mentioned as another, probably larger subset (though there will be an overlap). I'm not suggesting full integration with the why.OOo page, but rather a few links from within why.OOo pointing to the appropriate products pages for those that want to know this additional information - there may be a good deal of people with extensive knowledge, who already know what an office suite is, but they want a better idea of what they're looking at. The goal would be to increase the visibility of the products section and I think there might be some information there that visitors to the why.OOo website might be interested in. Good points. I agree with all of them :-) John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Developers - join us! see http://council.openoffice.org/developers.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] new why page
I think these have different audiences. * the products pages are focused on the features of OOo: what does each of the apps do? has Calc got a solver feature? etc. * the why pages are focused on benefits: why should I use OOo? what needs does it fill? (e.g. no-one has a need for Writer. They may have a need to send out hundreds of reminder letters to members of their sports club, and Writer may be one way to fill that need faster, cheaper, higher quality than a typewriter) John On Wed, July 15, 2009 09:43, Ivan M wrote: Hi Per, John, all, It's nice to see discussion on the why page - this has been the OOo website's weak point for too long. Andre Wyrwa's impressive proposal had difficulties with IE6 and the content on that site has since become outdated. Maybe the best and easiest way to go would be something clear and simple, like Per's proposal. I've started working on putting together a draft of the new Products page - something similar to Christoph Noack's proposal: http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/tTTNPiZLsHQQ8pzpSGA6Iw?feat=directlink. It might be a good idea to integrate this with the new why.OOo page(s) to avoid duplicating content. What do you think? Regards, Ivan. On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 7:23 PM, Per Erikssonpereriks...@openoffice.org wrote: John McCreesh skrev: On Tue, July 14, 2009 20:35, Per Eriksson wrote: Hello, John McCreesh skrev: I like the layout, but I'm wondering: * who is this page aimed at * what do we want them to do as a result of reading it * what reasons do we give them for doing so If we can answer these, I think we can sharpen the page up a bit. I will try to answer these. The page is aimed at anyone who is interested in learning more about OpenOffice.org. The visitor normally says: Show me what you've got. You have 1 minute.. The page starts the initial communication to new users the key reasons to use OpenOffice.org. I also provides sections for targeted audiences. The user can extremely easily choose how much they want to read. When they are done, see below. Why are they interested in learning about OOo? I guess either because they don't have an office suite and have heard of the free alternatives, or they are using Microsoft Office and want an alternative. This makes them want to learn more about the product. Maybe straighten things out. What need(s) are they hoping to satisfy with OOo? They know it's free. They know open source is cool and great software. We want the user to download the software. The download button is easily recognizable through the green button and it should look very tempting to press it. :-) Good, that's a simple objective, and it's very easy to measure if the page is successful :-) I am not sure how to answer the third question? Can you help me based on the first two answers please? What have we told them on this page that will convince them to click the big green button? We have created an image of OpenOffice.org as a very modern, free product and an alternative to Microsoft Office. We're trying to get inside the minds of the people who look at this page. As you say, we have one minute to convince them. So what do we need to tell them - e.g. OOo will do everything that the pirate copy of MS-Office on your PC will do except land you in jail ;-) I agree the page is missing info about it working with your existing documents. It should be mentioned under Openness. I'll make a couple of enhancements and post a note here. Per - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Developers - join us! see http://council.openoffice.org/developers.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] new why page
I like the layout, but I'm wondering: * who is this page aimed at * what do we want them to do as a result of reading it * what reasons do we give them for doing so If we can answer these, I think we can sharpen the page up a bit. John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Developers - join us! see http://council.openoffice.org/developers.html On Tue, July 14, 2009 12:31, Per Eriksson wrote: Hello Bernhard, Cor, I have focused the first headline on that it's free and has been created for everybody. I have added info about the file format, many languages and platforms under tha last headline. The Read more links provide a flap function that displays the longer version of each headline. It is not the correct implementation to do it (for users without javascript). That'll be fixed later. I added links to the features page. By the way, isn't dev_docs a bad URL for this key page? http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/features/3.1/index.html What's wrong with this URL? :-) http://www.openoffice.org/features/3.1/ Do we need it to be under dev_docs that looks like a place for drafts? :-) I know it's our folder for development related documents. But think about the URL as they are very important and well displayed to the user. I would move this document. I added system requirements and release notes, as it looks very nice to have it at hand. It's the least important information though, that's why i placed it last. But business users might be interested in these links. I have also designed it a little bit, but most design work is still left. I will work on the page today and the next couple of days. Feel free to comment on this work. Per Bernhard Dippold skrev: Hi Per, all, Per Eriksson wrote: John McCreesh skrev: On Mon, July 13, 2009 19:03, Per Eriksson wrote: [snip] I would start an effort to make the why site much simpler. More like a guide. If you are a specific role this is covered on different more in-depth pages. John, I'd be happy to provide a sketch with my ideas for the why site. Go for it. [...] http://erinet.se/why/ Okay here is my quick outline. [...] I like it (and support Andy's point about coolness). But I'm not quite sure if the four points mentioned (and the ranking among them) will be the most attractive reasons for not yet convinced new users for OpenOffice.org. What about Future proof file format or something like that? Are new features really our top-level reason to use OOo? For me personally the existing features, covering all necessary tasks, are more important. The second point would be extensions, after that new features. Then security, file format and openness. But these are just my personal thoughts - not necessarily more valuable than any other ... Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] new why page
On Tue, July 14, 2009 20:35, Per Eriksson wrote: Hello, John McCreesh skrev: I like the layout, but I'm wondering: * who is this page aimed at * what do we want them to do as a result of reading it * what reasons do we give them for doing so If we can answer these, I think we can sharpen the page up a bit. I will try to answer these. The page is aimed at anyone who is interested in learning more about OpenOffice.org. The visitor normally says: Show me what you've got. You have 1 minute.. The page starts the initial communication to new users the key reasons to use OpenOffice.org. I also provides sections for targeted audiences. The user can extremely easily choose how much they want to read. When they are done, see below. Why are they interested in learning about OOo? What need(s) are they hoping to satisfy with OOo? We want the user to download the software. The download button is easily recognizable through the green button and it should look very tempting to press it. :-) Good, that's a simple objective, and it's very easy to measure if the page is successful :-) I am not sure how to answer the third question? Can you help me based on the first two answers please? What have we told them on this page that will convince them to click the big green button? We're trying to get inside the minds of the people who look at this page. As you say, we have one minute to convince them. So what do we need to tell them - e.g. OOo will do everything that the pirate copy of MS-Office on your PC will do except land you in jail ;-) John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Developers - join us! see http://council.openoffice.org/developers.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] MS fires back - new free MS Office expected next year
On Mon, July 13, 2009 19:03, Per Eriksson wrote: [snip] I would start an effort to make the why site much simpler. More like a guide. If you are a specific role this is covered on different more in-depth pages. John, I'd be happy to provide a sketch with my ideas for the why site. Go for it. There's an 'ideas for Why' section in the wiki: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Why John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Developers - join us! see http://council.openoffice.org/developers.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] MS-Office - the office of last resort
Interesting angle: Instead of viewing (Microsoft) Office as a first choice, regard it as a last resort. Evaluate other, less expensive solutions; compare their reliability and functionality to your company's business needs; and then decide whether it makes sense to move up the business-productivity food chain. http://www.bmighty.com/blog/main/archives/2009/07/microsoft_offic_4.html even if he does refer to the discredited InfoWorld Office-compatibility torture test... John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Developers - join us! see http://council.openoffice.org/developers.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Download counter and chart generater for localized versions
On Thu, June 11, 2009 21:33, Takashi NAKAMOTO wrote: On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 19:17:40 +0100 (BST) John McCreesh jp...@openoffice.org wrote: On Thu, June 11, 2009 18:57, Takashi NAKAMOTO wrote: [snip] Could you take care of this problem, John? The accumulated download counts on 9th Jun are missing in the log file you keep updating. http://marketing.openoffice.org/bouncer/200906.csv We lost our ASDL cable service on Tuesday night - there may be a connection :-) I can't fix it tonight, but will rerun it over the weekend All right. No problem for the meanwhile. The updating operation of the chart generator runs automatically every day. That means, after you fix the CSV file, the chart generator will get correct data within a day by itself. All we have to do is just waiting for a fix of that file. The file should be fixed John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Developers - join us! see http://council.openoffice.org/developers.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Download counter and chart generater for localized versions
On Thu, June 11, 2009 18:57, Takashi NAKAMOTO wrote: [snip] Could you take care of this problem, John? The accumulated download counts on 9th Jun are missing in the log file you keep updating. http://marketing.openoffice.org/bouncer/200906.csv We lost our ASDL cable service on Tuesday night - there may be a connection :-) I can't fix it tonight, but will rerun it over the weekend John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Developers - join us! see http://council.openoffice.org/developers.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Updates to the Dashboard Concept
On Wed, June 3, 2009 16:30, Benjamin Horst wrote: Thank you, Charles, and other responders. I won't have much email access for the next eight hours, but I'll read and respond to all your messages when I'm able. In the meantime, if you'd like to repost my message to other mailing lists, please go ahead and do it! Great work Ben - I'll certainly be blogging about this. John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Developers - join us! see http://council.openoffice.org/developers.html Thanks, Ben Sent from my iPhone On Jun 3, 2009, at 11:16 AM, Charles-H. Schulz charles-h.sch...@laposte.net wrote: Alexandro, Le Wed, 3 Jun 2009 06:03:02 -0500, Alexandro Colorado j...@openoffice.org a écrit : On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 4:04 AM, Charles-H. Schulz charles-h.sch...@laposte.net wrote: Ben, I love your idea, and I would like to see it not forgotten somewhere on the wiki. So we have to work with the actual feature design process. One way of integrating your views in the OOo development process is the Renaissance project, but there may be others, such as the o...@www incubator project. Did you push the dashboard anywhere with the development team already? Thanks, Charles. Hi Chales, I have been workin with Ben on the dashboard idea for quie a while. We tried to pushit on the Google Summer of Code but some issues regarding the volunteer registration stop us from going ahead with him. Also we got people involved from the original team that modified the StartModule (where would be the dashboard) and are working with them. We need people that can make a built or a modification where is easy to load this HTML within the StartModule so we can have the flexibility to work with our implementation. Like Ivan said, we would need more skillsets as we go along with JS and XML and consider elements such as security and other aspects beyond our technical capacity. I think is great that Ben put this idea on marketing since it can generate external interest beyond the people we are working with. Please keep the feedback flowing. :) I may be wrong but you need to formalize these things a bit: I mean that you may want to fill out some specs documents, maybe open a project here or shove it into an existing one. I'll try to see how I can help. Best, Charles. Le 3 juin 09 à 09:43, Ivan M a écrit : P.S. I just noticed that you sent this to the marketing list - please send a link to the UX list too as there is interest in this idea over there as well! On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 7:41 PM, Ivan M i2initiati...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ben, all, I always get excited when there's discussion about a dashboard :P Ben, thank you for sharing your design with us! Having the dashboard in HTML is a great idea: just change the CSS and you can get a completely different layout. Plus, the use of HTML and JS could work really well for attracting a broad range of contributors/developers, as you mentioned. There would probably be a lot of XML involved too (e.g. recent file lists). There would also probably be security considerations with JS that might complicate the implementation of this idea - but the potential is huge. Here's a thought that got me thinking about your proposal: it might seem odd to users that they would be able to customize the dashboard so heavily, but not the rest of OOo (and I've seen many suggestions by users saying that OOo should be skinnable). Although this matter is well beyond the scope of the dashboard (and I think that a customizable dashboard is a wonderful idea), it does make me wonder - what if OOo (or at least, some parts of it) could be skinned with CSS (a crazy idea, I know...)? I'll add some more comments on your proposal later - I'm short on time these days, but with a juicy topic (and a juicy mockup) like this I just couldn't resist :) Regards, Ivan. On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Jean-Baptiste Faure jbf.fa...@laposte.net wrote: Le 03.06.2009 03:57, Benjamin Horst a écrit : Hello, I've been working on the Dashboard concept some more and have the following semi-functional mockup to share. This would appear in the OOo application window where the start center now appears. http://www.laboratory9.com/openoffice/oo_sample.php It looks very interesting. I suggest to add direct access to some help documentation such as FAQ, wiki, getting started in 3 pages for each module (perhaps 3 pages is to long) and complete guide if available. Another point : recent documents should show full names, in order to not have to use mouse to get tooltip with the full filename. Regards JBF -- Seuls des formats ouverts peuvent assurer la pérennité de vos documents. --- --- --- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] New wiki page for screenshots
Bernhard Dippold wrote: [snip] I would copy the screenshots from the website to the wiki (John, do you know about their authors and licenses?) and add a link to the website leading to the wiki. John, what do you think? I prefer to use the wiki for 'work in progress' and then copy the final version to the main website. Should we provide an official repository at the website and an additional one at the wiki (we do so for official and additional artwork in the Art Project)? That sounds like a good idea. How about also providing 'screenshot sources' - i.e. the .odt etc files - so that people can port them to different operating systems, translate to different languages, etc? John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Developers - join us! see http://council.openoffice.org/developers.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Download counts for localized versions
On Mon, May 18, 2009 23:02, Takashi NAKAMOTO wrote: [snip] I would like to know the download counts for Japanese edition and compare to the other ones. In addition, I also want to analyze more details of download counts. For example, I want to know transition of download counts between two specified days to check the efficiency of our announcements and events. The cleaned download files by month are now available on http://marketing.openoffice.org/bouncermm.csv e.g.http://marketing.openoffice.org/bouncer200905.csv for the current month's data If this is what you need, please let me know and I can set up a cron to update them daily John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Developers - join us! see http://council.openoffice.org/developers.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] OOo 3.2 features
Original Message Subject: Re: [releases] OOo 3.2 features From:Martin Hollmichel martin.hollmic...@sun.com Date:Wed, May 20, 2009 09:05 To: relea...@openoffice.org -- Eugene Savitsky wrote: Hi! Is there already a feature plan for 3.2? you may want to have a look on http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Features#Features_planned_for_OOo_3.2_.28November_2009.29 Martin Tnx. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Download counts for localized versions
Takashi NAKAMOTO wrote: Hello, Cor, On Sat, 16 May 2009 21:39:28 +0200 Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl wrote: Hi Takashi, Takashi NAKAMOTO wrote (16-5-2009 21:04) Hello, all, I would like to know how many downloads are carried out for each localized version. Do you have charts or download counters for localized versions? [...] You can find data here. http://openoffice.bouncer.osuosl.org/logstats/20090515/ And so on. [...] I know there they are. Once I investigated the download counts of 3.0 Japanese edition, I referred to those logs. I just want to know if there are such charts or download counters or not. If they already exist, I don't make duplication of work and will just check them. It is the easiest way. Unfortunately, if they don't, then, I will collect the download data from the bouncer log of localized versions, make fancy charts or tables and open them to all of you. Investigating all localized versions is not a big deal compared to the same investigation only for Japanese because their data are stored in the same format. I once asked - with the same Idea in mind as you describe - if there is a way to easily get cumulative data for one localized version. But alas that did not lead to a solution. As you asked the similar question before, it didn't seem that there is an easy way to observe the cumulative data like nice charts on our marketing project website. In this case, I will make things like the charts for localized versions. If you have any other useful information, please let me know. I have a cron job that collects all the bouncer data every night, cleans it up, and loads it into a MySQL database. That's where the graphs on the Marketing Planet page etc come from. There's no reason why the cron job couldn't store the data on the OOo website for other people to analyse. John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Developers - join us! see http://council.openoffice.org/developers.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Re: Fwd: Linux Journal 2009 Reader's Choice Awards
Some good news for the holiday weekend. I'll be posting this on the news and awards pages John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Developers - join us! see http://council.openoffice.org/developers.html On Fri, May 1, 2009 13:50, James Walker wrote: Got this in my inbox this morning. Thought I would share with you. please note the part about note releasing til later today. If you would like to forward it to the list that would be great. don't know if I will be able to get back to it later, busy day today for me. Thanks James Walker CentralUS MarCon -- Forwarded message -- From: Joseph Krack jos...@linuxjournal.com Date: Fri, May 1, 2009 at 1:30 AM Subject: Linux Journal 2009 Reader's Choice Awards To: vo...@openoffice.org Good morning and Congratulations! Linux Journal, the original and most editorially trusted publication for the worldwide Linux developer and IT community is proud to announce that OpenOffice has won our 2009 Readers' Choice Award for 'Favorite Office Program. Attached is a press release, a Readers' Choice certificate, a .pdf of the article which will appear in our June 2009 issue, as well as Readers' Choice banner that you can use on your Web site, or within your advertisements. Over 6,000 or our readers voted in this years competition, which makes this year's vote the largest in the history of our 'Reader's Choice Awards'. Congratulations for winning this award! PLEASE KEEP THIS information a secret until the article is posted on LinuxJournal.com at mid-day today. The article will be posted to http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/10451 www.linuxjournal.com/article/10451 It is obvious that OpenOffice is very popular with the type of person that reads Linux Journal. If you do not yet have one, I would love to send you a Media Kit/Rate Card for Linux Journal and/or our LinuxJournal.com Web site. Our mission is to help promote Linux and support the companies that make products which will advance it's use. Toward that end we offer the largest audience and the lowest Cost Per Thousand ad cost of any publication. Congratulations again! If you would like a hard copy of the award certificate, please email me back with name and shipping address. I look forward to hearing from you! Sincerely, Joe Krack Sales Director, Linux Journal and LinuxJournal.com 916-281-6372 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Re: [releases] What's new in 3.1?
On Mon, April 27, 2009 22:46, Cor Nouws wrote: Hi John, John McCreesh wrote (15-3-2009 11:36) The usual New Features page is now available for 3.1 at http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/features/3.1/ This page is intended as a more 'user friendly' supplement to the full release notes http://development.openoffice.org/releases/3.1.m2_snapshot.html. Please check, and drop me a note if your favourite new feature has been missed out or misrepresented. Great page, Thanks! I would like another item to be added: scaling factor on page preview in Calc: with a nice slider, the user can set the scaling factor for printing and gets immediate visible feedback. Is this something different from http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/features/3.1/#r3.2 ? John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Developers - join us! see http://council.openoffice.org/developers.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Impress versus PowerPoint
I've been asked by a journalist Do you have a comparison sheet that shows which features are in Impress versus PowerPoint 2007? I'm not aware of one ... has anyone done anything like this please? Thanks - John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Developers - join us! see http://council.openoffice.org/developers.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] IBM + Sun Next Week : Time to wait? or time for proposals?
On Wed, April 8, 2009 10:11, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Le Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:16:22 +0200, Pablo Barrera pablobarrera...@gmail.com a écrit : Hi all Alexandro, although we even do not know wether this buyout will actually occur (these days it seems the whole story has gotten cold again) the very first three questions we would have to ask ourselves and Sun/IBM/others would not be about a foundation. It would be about the following: - who owns the code bad question: the code is from the cumminity... I am afraid you are mislead. Sun owns the code of OpenOffice.org. Just browse our website. Sun can never take away the code and the community's contributions to it. This code belongs to the community as guaranteed by the LGPL. http://www.openoffice.org/FAQs/faq-licensing.html#10 Sun is a joint copyright owner with the hacker. This meakes it easier for Sun to 'do things' unilaterally - e.g. re-license the code - but it doesn't prevent the creation of new software based on the current codebase. Sun also owns the trademark 'OpenOffice.org' and has been busy recently strengthening the trademark protection. So you might have to re-brand any new software based on the current codebase. John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Developers - join us! see http://council.openoffice.org/developers.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Time to get a new Office Suite?
On Tue, April 7, 2009 14:10, Rosana Ardila Biela wrote: Hi, Some people are facing the end of the MS Office 2003 support: http://www.zdnetasia.com/news/software/0,39044164,62052928,00.htm?scid=rss_z_nw Maybe it is a good time to tell them that there are great alternatives like OpenOffice.org. Any bloggers interested? Good idea! Maybe we need to revive the 'Your Choice' campaign we ran a few years ago: http://why.openoffice.org/yourchoice.html John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Developers - join us! see http://council.openoffice.org/developers.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] IBM + Sun Next Week : Time to wait? or time for proposals?
Pablo Barrera wrote: Hi all from Buenos Aires Some Linux portals start to publish news about the adquisition of Sun by IBM, here in buenos aires, I would like to know if it is time to wait the adquisition, because all community related issues, including opensolaris, mysql too wil have a moment to unificate projects around two companies. Wha could be the next steps?, the silence on the lists, seems to be about this fusion, or probably i´m wrong. Regards Pablo Barrera As Charles said id his blog recently: I have been asked this several times already this week, so let me clarify something: I do not work for Sun, nor for IBM and I do not know anything else about the buyout rumour than what the press says. John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Developers - join us! see http://council.openoffice.org/developers.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] A double celebration
Yesterday - Document Freedom Day 2009 - we reached our 50 millionth download of OpenOffice.org from http://download.openoffice.org since 3.0 was released Celebrate! John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Developers - join us! see http://council.openoffice.org/developers.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Re: [releases] What's new in 3.1?
The usual New Features page is now available for 3.1 at http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/features/3.1/ This page is intended as a more 'user friendly' supplement to the full release notes http://development.openoffice.org/releases/3.1.m2_snapshot.html. Please check, and drop me a note if your favourite new feature has been missed out or misrepresented. Thanks -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Developers - join us! see http://council.openoffice.org/developers.html On Mon, February 23, 2009 10:37, Eugene Savitsky wrote: Hi! Does OOo provides userfriendly marketing page what's new in upcoming OOo 3.1? It's practically impossible to get useful info from http://development.openoffice.org/releases/3.1.m2_snapshot.html. Tnx. -- Eugene Savitsky Menelon OU Security, Software, Internet Tel.(+372) 616 60 60, GSM (+372) 50 24349 E-Mail: eugene.savit...@menelon.ee Skype: e.savitsky http://www.menelon.ee Arvuti riistvara otse internetist: http://www.ox.ee - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Article on French Gendarmerie and OSS
On Fri, March 13, 2009 06:43, sophie wrote: Hi, Just for information: http://www.osor.eu/news/fr-gendarmerie-saves-millions-with-open-desktop-and-web-applications This supports my comment reported in The Guardian on Wednesday: Where Microsoft is increasingly challenged is in the public sector. From Birmingham to Brussels, local and regional governments are switching to OpenOffice in a bid to confront the hegemony of Microsoft. The idea of using open source software not originated by an American multinational corporation seems to go down particularly well in the French public service, says John McCreesh, marketing project lead of OpenOffice.org. http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/mar/12/open-source-apps I hope this doesn't sound too racist - I am a closet Francophile ;-) John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Developers - join us! see http://council.openoffice.org/developers.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Re: Information about OOo in Australia
On Mon, March 9, 2009 12:01, James Walker wrote: I just want to ask, what is behind all of this lately, it seems like we are going to have to start defending OO.o. I have been around the project since before version 1 and aside from someone having a copyright on OpenOffice for office furniture or something, have not seen us have to defend it like this before. When Sun created the project at the start of the millennium, it was a bit lax about securing trademarks internationally. This has caused us grief from time to time, e.g. in Brazil. I think this latest activity is a recognition that Sun realises it now has a valuable brand and is taking active steps to secure it. I'm getting these questions from the legal team who are helping Sun whenever they run into problems with national authorities. I'd like to thank you all for your help so far - there may be more requests in the pipeline. John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Developers - join us! see http://council.openoffice.org/developers.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Information about OOo in Australia
Following the recent request for help providing a record of OOo usage in Norway http://marketing.openoffice.org/servlets/BrowseList?list=devby=threadfrom=2199442 we have been asked for the same information for Australia: to produce evidence that OpenOffice.org was a well known name in Australia, particularly among consumers, before 2008; or any data on the as the number of downloads or distribution of CD's of OpenOffice to users in Australia. Can anyone help please? Thanks - John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Developers - join us! see http://council.openoffice.org/developers.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] How does OOo stand on the UK FLOSS plan?
On Sun, March 1, 2009 05:47, Alexandro Colorado wrote: I wouldnt think that OOo would not be considered Mature. However I would like to double check if the UK Government plan and the CIO Council does decide if the OOo project is mature. (please review Action 4) http://www.cio.gov.uk/transformational_government/open_source/action.asp I guess this will be easier for nationals to do the research but I think ti would be helpful for most people to decide whenever OOo is valued a mature Open source project. Thanks for spotting this. I have asked the question, and will report back. It would be useful for marketing in the UK (and beyond) to be on a UK Government approved list... John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Developers - join us! see http://council.openoffice.org/developers.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Re: [releases] What's new in 3.1?
On Mon, February 23, 2009 10:37, Eugene Savitsky wrote: Hi! Does OOo provides userfriendly marketing page what's new in upcoming OOo 3.1? It's gradually being assembled - in no particular order - at the usual place http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/features/3.1/indox.html (note that indox.html becomes index.html when the page is ready ;-) John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Developers - join us! see http://council.openoffice.org/developers.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Know any developers who would like to work on OOo for Sun?
Software Engineer Web 2.0 Development (m/f) Position in Hamburg/Germany available. Currently looking for SW Engineers for the OpenOffice.org / StarOffice development team. http://www.sun.com/corp_emp/search.cgi?loc=DEreq=DE0203104u=p= John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Developers - join us! see http://council.openoffice.org/developers.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Information about OOo in Norway
We're facing some trademark difficulties in Norway. We have been asked to produce evidence that OpenOffice.org was a well known name in Norway, particularly among consumers, before 2008. Can anyone help please? Thanks - John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Developers - join us! see http://council.openoffice.org/developers.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] OOoCon?
Are you hoping to go to OOoCon 2009 or 2010? See: http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=announcemsgNo=385 John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Developers - join us! see http://council.openoffice.org/developers.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] extending the OpenOffice BugBounty Programm
I would suggest contacting the folks at FOSDEM and getting them to photocopy and handout leaflets tomorrow... John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Developers - join us! see http://council.openoffice.org/developers.html Martin Hollmichel wrote: Hi, last year we initiated the bug bounty program (http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/BugBountyProgram and references below). Obviously we failed in spreading the information about this program, the feedback was very low. Before we extend the program we want to be sure to make it this time better, I'm thinking of: * promoting it on the main page (www.openoffice.org) * add an item on contributung page (contributing.openoffice.org) * encourage people to blog about it * many other things are there any volunteers available interested in spreading the news ? Are there any other ideas to make the Program more attractive ? or should we stop this effort because it's hopeless ? Martin references: http://www.mail-archive.com/annou...@openoffice.org/msg00145.html http://freelancefundraiser.wordpress.com/2008/11/10/openofficeorg-achieves-ten-million-downloads-at-the-end-of-its-beijing-conference/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] video contest idea / chat meeting?
On Wed, February 4, 2009 13:07, Claus Agerskov wrote: [snip] Back in 2002 at GUADEC in Sevilla some of the active from OpenOffice.org said some catching lines to a digital camera. I don't remember who had the camera but Stefan Taxhet, Danese Cooper, Zaheda Bhorat and myself was some of the ones who said quotes to and got filmed. The Digital Tipping Point http://www.archive.org/browse.php?field=subjectmediatype=moviescollection=digitaltippingpoint John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Developers - join us! see http://council.openoffice.org/developers.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] A different Market focus
On Fri, January 30, 2009 10:21, Ian Lynch wrote: On Fri, 2009-01-30 at 07:44 +, John McCreesh wrote: On Fri, January 30, 2009 01:16, Graham Lauder wrote: [snip] The Obama administration is not going endorse any product. So in terms of raising brand awareness such a letter would be a non event. While the Obama Administration may endorse the _philosophy_ of Open Source they are not going to endorse specific brands and that after all is our problem. The Obama campaign could teach us a thing or two about creating / raising brand awareness - Obama is now one of the biggest brands on the planet. OpenOffice.org for president! Surely that should be: Obama for OOo Marketing Project Lead ;-) John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Developers - join us! see http://council.openoffice.org/developers.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Computerbild
http://ooomarketing.blogspot.com/2009/01/computerbild-top-250-download-award.html Can you aadd this to the awards page please? Thanks - John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Developers - join us! see http://council.openoffice.org/developers.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Where does OOo stand.
The blog seems to be talking about the various products' contributions to Sun's bottom line. I don't know how much revenue Sun derives from SO / OOo products and services, but it gains a massive amount of exposure to people who otherwise would never hear the name Sun Microsystems... John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Developers - join us! see http://council.openoffice.org/developers.html On Thu, January 29, 2009 21:02, Alexandro Colorado wrote: Recent blog entry talks about Sun's technologies. MySQL and Java has been champions while Solaris and VirtualBox had been dogs. Where do OOo stand here, my gut feeling is that we are on the latter. MySQL and Java has both innovated a great deal but OOo has not innovate since 2.4x http://weblog.infoworld.com/openresource/archives/2009/01/suns_software_r.html -- Alexandro Colorado OpenOffice.org Espantilde;ol IM: j...@jabber.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] A different Market focus
On Fri, January 30, 2009 01:16, Graham Lauder wrote: [snip] The Obama administration is not going endorse any product. So in terms of raising brand awareness such a letter would be a non event. While the Obama Administration may endorse the _philosophy_ of Open Source they are not going to endorse specific brands and that after all is our problem. The Obama campaign could teach us a thing or two about creating / raising brand awareness - Obama is now one of the biggest brands on the planet. John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Developers - join us! see http://council.openoffice.org/developers.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] A different Market focus
On Tue, January 27, 2009 20:11, Graham Lauder wrote: [snip] So therefore our marketing should shift from touting features and TCO to a focus on raising Brand Awareness. I've felt for some time that, as far as the OOo product is concerned, we spend too much time 'preaching to the converted' - i.e. addressing the FOSS-aware. We would get better results by talking about OOo to birdwatchers, stamp collectors, Rotaries ... John -- John McCreesh Marketing Project Lead OpenOffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] OpenOffice.org blocked in Microsoft Live Search
http://search.live.com/results.aspx?q=download+openoffice.org+form=QBRE returns lots of para-sites, a few mirrors, and then at the bottom of the page: CollabNet is currently down for scheduled maintenance. As part of CollabNet's expansion and improvement plan, we are upgrading the space in our datacenter to help better serve ... download.openoffice.org/680/?intcmp=1235 · Cached page Coonspiracy? or just a rubbish search engine? John -- John McCreesh Marketing Project Lead OpenOffice.org On Mon, January 26, 2009 11:22, Italo Vignoli wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John McCreesh wrote: Protest to your local competition authorities: http://www.palluxo.com/2009/01/25/openofficeorg-blocked-from-microsoft-live-search/ John In Italy it works, I've already blogged about it: http://www.italovignoli.org/2009/01/openofficeorg-blocked-from-microsoft-live-search/ - -- Italo Vignoli tel +39.348.5653829 it...@italovignoli.com skype italovignoli - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Reminder: proposals for OOoCon
Please remember that the Call for Location for OOoCon closes at midnight UTC on February 1st 2009 http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=announcemsgNo=380 There have also been recommendations that we should move to a two year cycle, so this year we would also award OOoCon 2010. The team running 2010 would be expected to 'shadow' the 2009 team, to help them with the 2009 event, and prepare better for their own OOoCon the following year. So please think not just about 2009, but also 2010! Thanks - John -- John McCreesh Marketing Project Lead OpenOffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Call for Location for OOoCon 2009
Please note that the Call for Location for OOoCon 2009 has been posted today: http://marketing.openoffice.org/ooocon2009/cfl/cfl.html John -- John McCreesh Marketing Project Lead OpenOffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] [OT] Merry Xmass
And a special greeting to the person who today will have triggered the 25 millionth download of OpenOffice.org since we launched 3.0 - see http://marketing.openoffice.org/planet/ John Gabriel Gurley wrote: Happy Holidays everyone. :-) I wish you and your family a wonderful holiday season. Best wishes and success for 2009. Gabriel Gurley Author, A Conceptual Guide to OpenOffice.org 3 http://www.gabrielgurley.com/ Quoting Alexandro Colorado j...@openoffice.org: Hi Community, Want to congratulate the community for their long efforts and wish them a merry xmass and that they enjoy another year with OpenOffice.org with much success in their life. -- Alexandro Colorado CoLeader of OpenOffice.org ES http://es.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Microsoft ODF plans for Office 2007 SP2
Or like what the o...@www project is doing? http://odf-at-www.openoffice.org/ John -- John McCreesh Marketing Project Lead OpenOffice.org On Wed, December 17, 2008 10:15, Vikram Gaur wrote: That will not be an issue if we decide to do. On Wed, 2008-12-17 at 10:02 +, Richard Rothwell wrote: 2008/12/17 Ian Lynch ian.ly...@zmsl.com: On Wed, 2008-12-17 at 14:54 +0530, Vikram Gaur wrote: Web version has limited future because of bandwidth. Google will take care of that. That is like saying MS will take care of the desktop for us! At the moment there are bandwidth limitations but they will gradually ease and those that go into the market early will dominate just as MS has done at the desktop. We need to look further ahead if we are serious about long term survival. Still if we want to compete with that we can convert openoffice.org to web version. Question is how? Who will take responsibility for doing it? Sun has the technology with Global Desktop to offer thin client access to anyone through a standard web browser. Question is where the revenue can be generated to fund the servers etc. MS will be doing it from advertising like Google. It may be that organisations will want to run their _own_ web based office suites. That would offer security, etc. A true FOSS web based office suite might well be rather popular. It would mean that others could offer a hosted service in competition with the big boys - in the same way that Web hosting, etc is offered. rgds, Richard Rothwell - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Colourlovers label exhibit with Openoffice.org templates
On Wed, December 17, 2008 17:31, Russell Ossendryver wrote: Happy Holidays to everyone. We just published this label exhibition http://www.worldlabel.com/Pages/labels-exhibit.htm The label designs where created using color palettes from Colourlovers.comhttp://colourlovers.com/The Colourlovers community has about 160K members so OOo should get some promotional bennifit with them. Please feel free to use this exhibition anyway you can to help promote OOo Cool! Thank you. John -- John McCreesh Marketing Project Lead OpenOffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Screenshots [was: why.openoffice.org]
Máté Gergely wrote: [snip] I think, it would be good to show the Why visitors, that OpenOffice.org can be like this, and can be like that also. It would be good to have an OS-X screenshot, a Vista screenshot, a GNOME screenshot and a KDE screenshot, beside the XP. For example Writer (XP), Calc (Vista), Impress (OS-X), Base (KDE) and Draw (GNOME) respectively (guess my intention, thus, by heart I would give Draw with the penguin to XP and any of the first three major OOo apps to a nice Ubuntu screenshot :-)). The screenshots on 'why' come from the screenshots page http://www.openoffice.org/screenshots/ooo20/index.html and also appear in the product pages http://www.openoffice.org/product/writer.html etc. They are from XP (actually running under VirtualBox on Ubuntu). If anyone is willing to reproduce these screenshots on other platforms, I'd be delighted to add them to this page, and then on to 'why'. It was also be great to have the screenshots in non-European languages, but I appreciate that's more work. If anyone would like to volunteer, please reply to this thread (so we don't get ten people all doing the same screenshots :-) and I can send you links to the 'source code'. Thanks - John -- John McCreesh Marketing Project Lead OpenOffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Xmass theme for OOo Site
Alexandro Colorado wrote: Awesome dissertation on why we shouldn't do anything and just sit on our asses. Which is pretty common in the OOo community. Now can we have people wanting to do something, I am all ears. I thought sitting on an ass was quite appropriate for Christmas :-) The answer is simple - let's not stop at Christmas. If anyone wants to create images for Eid, Diwali etc - great - the more the better. John -- John McCreesh Marketing Project Lead OpenOffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
RE: [marketing] Upgrading to OOo 3.0 screencast
On Tue, November 25, 2008 13:41, Tim Godfrey wrote: Were would we find other video tutorials that demonstrate how to use OOo? For example: http://inpics.net/ John -- John McCreesh Marketing Project Lead OpenOffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[marketing] Norwegian Government commits 2 million kroner to OOo adoption
Norway has become the the latest country to pledge funds for public sector use of open source software. Minister of Government Adminstration and Reform Heidi Grande Roeys is granting 2 million kroner ($285,000) to the national center for free software, and the terms of the deal are interesting. Instead of general promotion of open source software, the funds are specifically earmarked for adopting and promoting use of the OpenOffice suite of productivity applications in government offices. http://ostatic.com/177021-blog/norway-pledges-funds-for-government-open-source-usage John -- John McCreesh Marketing Project Lead OpenOffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[marketing] Re: [marcon] Campaign on the Economic Crisis
Alexandro Colorado wrote: So I thought this will be talked out more. It would be interesting if we start a campaign on how can OOo help u survive the economical crisis by saving on proprietary software. It's notable how many reviews pick up on this point. John - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[marketing] Three million
In the first week since we formally announced the availability of OpenOffice.org 3.0, we have recorded an astonishing three million downloads on the bouncer logs. This is a tribute not only to the developers who have created this great product, but to the tens of thousands of people in the community who have tested it, translated it, supported it, and told the world about it. A week of three million downloads - what a great start to the year of three! John p.s. further data on my blog http://www.mealldubh.org -- John McCreesh Marketing Project Lead OpenOffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [marketing] Three million
On Mon, October 20, 2008 09:54, Lars Noodén wrote: John McCreesh wrote: In the first week since we formally announced the availability of OpenOffice.org 3.0, we have recorded an astonishing three million downloads on the bouncer logs. I agree that this is excellent news. There are some things which might help us further market OOo. 1) how can we also count the downloads from RPM and APT repositories which is where most of our linux users are going to be getting OOo? Maybe we need some sort of mirrors project to pull these stats together for all open-source projects ... Alternatively some distros now ask users to opt into monitoring programs which monitor what software is actually being used and 'call home' the statistics. 2) I might have missed the explanation of Leif's question earlier: are all of the 3 million successful downloads or does the sum also include interrupted attempts? (HTTP is rather lame for large file transfer.) My understanding is that the Bouncer logs record when users are 'handed off' to a mirror. They have no visibility whether the download was completed / interrupted / bookmarked and repeated directly later. 3) How about the torrents? Indeed. All of these factors (and others) mean that the Bouncer figures severely underestimate our total downloads. On the other hand, they are completely objective, and are quite easy to filter for rogue entries. John -- John McCreesh Marketing Project Lead OpenOffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[marketing] Microsoft: OpenOffice better than Google Apps
Steve Ballmer has insisted that OpenOffice is a far better rival to Microsoft's Office than Google's applications suite http://www.techradar.com/news/computing/microsoft-open-office-a-bigger-rival-than-google-apps-476243 I wonder is he one of the over two million people who have downloaded OpenOffice.org since we released 3.0? John -- John McCreesh Marketing Project Lead OpenOffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FW: [marketing] Site is down?
On Mon, October 13, 2008 15:37, Jason Komar wrote: I get the same issue at the main site. Looks like it is down. -- Jason Komar Stormfront Ventures Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.jbox.ca On October 13, 2008 08:33:45 am Savoia Computer Support wrote: -Original Message- From: Savoia Computer Support [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 10:26 AM To: dev@marketing.openoffice.org Subject: RE: [marketing] Site is down? I just tried to access the Ooo 3.0 download page so I could add a link to it for an article for theforcefield.net about the launch and I am receiving a 404 error. The specific error is as follows: Forbidden You don't have permission to access /servlets/ContentHelmNoodle on this server. Apache Server at www.openoffice.org Port 80 I attempted to access the main OOo site and it is giving me a forbidden error as well. Is the site down? If so, could you elaborate on the nature of the problem and when it is expected to be up again? If I could have something to post our site so everyone will know what is happening it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Rick Rick Savoia Savoia Computer The Force Field podcast and portal for IT service providers http://www.theforcefield.net Apologies - our servers are struggling to cope with the unprecedented demand. The technical guys are trying to come up with a solution. Thank you for your patience John -- John McCreesh Marketing Project Lead OpenOffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[marketing] CeBIT trade show, March 3-8, 2009, Hannover, Germany
Through its Call for Projects, Linux New Media AG in cooperation with CeBIT now offers free booths at the largest IT event in the world - the CeBIT trade show, March 3-8, 2009, Hannover, Germany. http://www.linux-magazine.com/events/cebit_2009_cfp Have we any volunteers interested in manning a booth at CeBIT? Thanks - John -- John McCreesh Marketing Project Lead OpenOffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
