Re: [marketing] Printable Openoffice.org Logo templates

2010-08-29 Thread Lars Nooden
Hi, Russell,

On 08/25/2010 10:59 PM, WorldLabel.com wrote:
 Regarding the application Icon, I see one with a TM here and others without:
 http://www.openoffice.org/trademark/brandrefresh.html I am not sure but I
 think that cannot be tradmarked but would have to be registered?

Pick one that looks nice for your needs and go with it.  They are there
so that they may be used to promote (market) the OpenOffice.org package
and project.

Regards,
/Lars

FWIW:

TM is for unregistered trademarks
(R) is for registered trademarks
SM is for servicemarks)

http://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/basics/trade_defin.jsp

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Re: [marketing] Printable Openoffice.org Logo templates

2010-08-25 Thread WorldLabel.com
I will work on all the requests and suggestions by Bernhard and Lars. Thank
you for the input.

 Your previews seem to be broken...

Is there a way to control the preview?

Regarding the application Icon, I see one with a TM here and others without:
http://www.openoffice.org/trademark/brandrefresh.html I am not sure but I
think that cannot be tradmarked but would have to be registered?

Best
Russell

On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 3:45 AM, Lars Nooden larsnoo...@openoffice.orgwrote:

 On 08/23/2010 10:30 PM, WorldLabel.com wrote:
  Please try again after adding the gulls to the logo at the right
  position and in the right.
 
  http://templates.services.openoffice.org/en/taxonomy/term/1305
  Are those better?

 They look nice.

 In the Openoffice.org 2 x 4 stickers, there is something a little off
 about the spacing of the three objects.  I'm looking at it on the
 screen, though, not on paper.  Is it all a single bitmapped graphic?  If
 so, it would be nice to have the slogan at the bottom as text so that it
 can be swapped out easily to match future marketing campaigns.

 The address labels and return labels should have in the description as
 being for home use.  Businesses often have two address lines.  If the
 logo is a little smaller that would leave the more space for the name.

 In all three, it would be nice to have some non-printing banner
 identifying the purpose.  Even though that is covered very nicely in the
 document metadata, it is not visible in the regular document view.

 /Lars


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Re: [marketing] Printable Openoffice.org Logo templates

2010-08-25 Thread Bernhard Dippold

Hi Russell,

WorldLabel.com schrieb:

I will work on all the requests and suggestions by Bernhard and Lars. Thank
you for the input.


Your previews seem to be broken...


Is there a way to control the preview?


I don't know how the templates website works - perhaps a posting on 
webs...@extensions.ooo might help...


Regarding the application Icon, I see one with a TM here and others without:
http://www.openoffice.org/trademark/brandrefresh.html I am not sure but I
think that cannot be tradmarked but would have to be registered?


I'm not the right person to reply to these questions (perhaps someone of 
the Oracle team can step in), but I didn't hear about any attempt to 
trademark the gull orb.


I've been told about three levels of protection:

The logo is covered by the trademark, while
the blue only gull orb (at the brandrefresh page with the TM sign) is 
covered by copyright - a decision about a open source license (share 
alike or something similar) has not been found.
Based on this orb different versions can be created (shaded, 3D effects, 
following special designs ...), I think this is the reason why the 
application icon has no copyright sign...


Best regards

Bernhard

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Re: [marketing] Printable Openoffice.org Logo templates

2010-08-24 Thread Lars Nooden
On 08/23/2010 10:30 PM, WorldLabel.com wrote:
 Please try again after adding the gulls to the logo at the right
 position and in the right.
 
 http://templates.services.openoffice.org/en/taxonomy/term/1305
 Are those better?

They look nice.

In the Openoffice.org 2 x 4 stickers, there is something a little off
about the spacing of the three objects.  I'm looking at it on the
screen, though, not on paper.  Is it all a single bitmapped graphic?  If
so, it would be nice to have the slogan at the bottom as text so that it
can be swapped out easily to match future marketing campaigns.

The address labels and return labels should have in the description as
being for home use.  Businesses often have two address lines.  If the
logo is a little smaller that would leave the more space for the name.

In all three, it would be nice to have some non-printing banner
identifying the purpose.  Even though that is covered very nicely in the
document metadata, it is not visible in the regular document view.

/Lars

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Re: [marketing] Printable Openoffice.org Logo templates

2010-08-23 Thread WorldLabel.com
 Please try again after adding the gulls to the logo at the right
position and in the right.

http://templates.services.openoffice.org/en/taxonomy/term/1305
Are those better?

Best
Russell
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Lars Noodén larsnoo...@openoffice.orgwrote:

 On 08/16/2010 02:30 AM, WorldLabel.com wrote:
  The object is to have many types of ready to print templates so folks can
  conveniently download and use, not necessarily for Worldlabel products
 but
  all types of printable media. Each template would reference as many
  manufacturer/supplies as possible so it would be easy to find the correct
  supplies to print on.

 Please try again after adding the gulls to the logo at the right
 position and in the right.  At least that way the templates will be
 available while other things get sorted out.

 Oracle reps will speak up if there is anything to say about the trademark.

 /Lars

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Re: [marketing] Printable Openoffice.org Logo templates

2010-08-23 Thread Bernhard Dippold

Hi Russell,

WorldLabel.com schrieb:

Please try again after adding the gulls to the logo at the right
position and in the right.


http://templates.services.openoffice.org/en/taxonomy/term/1305
Are those better?


I like all of them, but as you know me, I can't comment without any 
criticism...


While both the larger and smaller address labels are really well done 
and not to be discussed from trademark POV (they don't contain the logo, 
while the gull orb is not covered by the trademark), the 2x4 stickers 
will probably need to become approved by the trademark owner (Oracle).


As the trademark policy has not been finished yet, I can't tell you if 
providing the template to everybody interested in using the logo will 
fit the rules they will establish.


Perhaps Stefan Taxhet or Louis Suarez-Potts can provide more information 
or grant usage - I CC'd them...


From design point of view the logo seems to be stretched: it's borders 
are not as sharp as they should be. If such labels will be allowed to be 
created, I'd propose to use larger scaled bitmaps or vector graphics as 
basis for the logo.


Best regards

Bernhard

PS: Your previews seem to be broken...
PPS: If you update the page(s), could you please capitalize the second 
O in OpenOffice.org (you wrote: Open*o*ffice.org)





Best
Russell
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Lars Noodénlarsnoo...@openoffice.orgwrote:


On 08/16/2010 02:30 AM, WorldLabel.com wrote:

The object is to have many types of ready to print templates so folks can
conveniently download and use, not necessarily for Worldlabel products

but

all types of printable media. Each template would reference as many
manufacturer/supplies as possible so it would be easy to find the correct
supplies to print on.


Please try again after adding the gulls to the logo at the right
position and in the right.  At least that way the templates will be
available while other things get sorted out.

Oracle reps will speak up if there is anything to say about the trademark.

/Lars

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Re: [marketing] Printable Openoffice.org Logo templates

2010-08-23 Thread Varun Mittal
Do We plan to have the black and white versions of these logos as well ?

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On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 6:33 AM, Bernhard Dippold 
bernh...@familie-dippold.at wrote:

 Hi Russell,

 WorldLabel.com schrieb:

  Please try again after adding the gulls to the logo at the right
 position and in the right.


 http://templates.services.openoffice.org/en/taxonomy/term/1305
 Are those better?


 I like all of them, but as you know me, I can't comment without any
 criticism...

 While both the larger and smaller address labels are really well done and
 not to be discussed from trademark POV (they don't contain the logo, while
 the gull orb is not covered by the trademark), the 2x4 stickers will
 probably need to become approved by the trademark owner (Oracle).

 As the trademark policy has not been finished yet, I can't tell you if
 providing the template to everybody interested in using the logo will fit
 the rules they will establish.

 Perhaps Stefan Taxhet or Louis Suarez-Potts can provide more information or
 grant usage - I CC'd them...

 From design point of view the logo seems to be stretched: it's borders are
 not as sharp as they should be. If such labels will be allowed to be
 created, I'd propose to use larger scaled bitmaps or vector graphics as
 basis for the logo.

 Best regards

 Bernhard

 PS: Your previews seem to be broken...
 PPS: If you update the page(s), could you please capitalize the second O
 in OpenOffice.org (you wrote: Open*o*ffice.org)




 Best
 Russell
 On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Lars Noodénlarsnoo...@openoffice.org
 wrote:

  On 08/16/2010 02:30 AM, WorldLabel.com wrote:

 The object is to have many types of ready to print templates so folks
 can
 conveniently download and use, not necessarily for Worldlabel products

 but

 all types of printable media. Each template would reference as many
 manufacturer/supplies as possible so it would be easy to find the
 correct
 supplies to print on.


 Please try again after adding the gulls to the logo at the right
 position and in the right.  At least that way the templates will be
 available while other things get sorted out.

 Oracle reps will speak up if there is anything to say about the
 trademark.

 /Lars

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Re: [marketing] Printable Openoffice.org Logo templates

2010-08-16 Thread Lars Noodén
On 08/16/2010 02:30 AM, WorldLabel.com wrote:
 The object is to have many types of ready to print templates so folks can
 conveniently download and use, not necessarily for Worldlabel products but
 all types of printable media. Each template would reference as many
 manufacturer/supplies as possible so it would be easy to find the correct
 supplies to print on.

Please try again after adding the gulls to the logo at the right
position and in the right.  At least that way the templates will be
available while other things get sorted out.

Oracle reps will speak up if there is anything to say about the trademark.

/Lars

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[marketing] Printable Openoffice.org Logo templates

2010-08-15 Thread WorldLabel.com
Hi Marketing

I am preparing templates ready for print with Openoffice.org
logos/artwork like this:
http://templates.services.openoffice.org/en/node/4445 for CD Inserts, CD
labels, address labels, all size stickers ect.

Can I get feedback on the best artwork to use for this and/or suggestions.

Thank you

Russell

 dev@marketing.openoffice.org


Re: [marketing] Printable Openoffice.org Logo templates

2010-08-15 Thread Bernhard Dippold

Hi Russell,

sorry for not being able to give a valid advise, but at the moment we're 
stuck in trademark issues with the new logo.


While the old logo was to be used after a confirmation request (with 
positive reply) on lo...@marketing.ooo, new logo usage should be allowed 
after filling a form at the website and following the new trademark 
policy for OpenOffice.org.


Unfortunately Oracle legal seems to need even more time in examining the 
trademark policy draft, so there is no way to get approval for using 
this logo except with a single case request at the trademark owner - Oracle.


WorldLabel.com schrieb:

Hi Marketing

I am preparing templates ready for print with Openoffice.org
logos/artwork like this:
http://templates.services.openoffice.org/en/node/4445 for CD Inserts, CD
labels, address labels, all size stickers ect.

Can I get feedback on the best artwork to use for this and/or suggestions.


Based on the information above I can't tell you or anybody else about 
how to use our new logo in any artwork.


Hoping for a final decision on the trademark topic we're working on a 
more consistent look and feel for OpenOffice.org than before in our 
Branding Initiative (mainly on the mailing list brand...@marketing.ooo 
and in the wiki).


So even if we would be allowed to use the logo, the surrounding 
graphical elements and visual language has not yet been defined. Please 
join the Branding Initiative if you want to be part of the effort to 
create a consistent visual design that should be used wherever 
OpenOffice.org is represented by visual means.


The only safe way to distribute OpenOffice.org graphics and texts 
containing the logo is to use the old one, even if this recommendation 
is counterproductive to an effective OpenOffice.org marketing.


Florian and myself have requested advise by Oracle legal on how to 
proceed in this very unsatisfactory situation, but we've got no reply up 
to now...


Best regards

Bernhard

PS: If you would like to distribute your templates from the link above, 
please add the gulls to the logo at the right position and in the right 
size. Modifying the logo by (re)moving the gulls has not been allowed 
with the old logo either.


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Re: [marketing] Printable Openoffice.org Logo templates

2010-08-15 Thread WorldLabel.com
Hi Bernhard

Thank you for the reply.

I will delete the template uploaded and wait until the trademark policy and
branding is decided. Then I will prepare a collection of ready to print
templates. Perhaps these templates should  be hosted in both the Art project
section and Template repository?

The object is to have many types of ready to print templates so folks can
conveniently download and use, not necessarily for Worldlabel products but
all types of printable media. Each template would reference as many
manufacturer/supplies as possible so it would be easy to find the correct
supplies to print on.

Best regards

Russell


OnSun, Aug 15, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Bernhard Dippold 
bernh...@familie-dippold.at wrote:

 Hi Russell,

 sorry for not being able to give a valid advise, but at the moment we're
 stuck in trademark issues with the new logo.

 While the old logo was to be used after a confirmation request (with
 positive reply) on lo...@marketing.ooo, new logo usage should be allowed
 after filling a form at the website and following the new trademark policy
 for OpenOffice.org.

 Unfortunately Oracle legal seems to need even more time in examining the
 trademark policy draft, so there is no way to get approval for using this
 logo except with a single case request at the trademark owner - Oracle.

 WorldLabel.com schrieb:

 Hi Marketing

 I am preparing templates ready for print with Openoffice.org
 logos/artwork like this:
 http://templates.services.openoffice.org/en/node/4445 for CD Inserts, CD
 labels, address labels, all size stickers ect.

 Can I get feedback on the best artwork to use for this and/or suggestions.


 Based on the information above I can't tell you or anybody else about how
 to use our new logo in any artwork.

 Hoping for a final decision on the trademark topic we're working on a more
 consistent look and feel for OpenOffice.org than before in our Branding
 Initiative (mainly on the mailing list brand...@marketing.ooo and in the
 wiki).

 So even if we would be allowed to use the logo, the surrounding graphical
 elements and visual language has not yet been defined. Please join the
 Branding Initiative if you want to be part of the effort to create a
 consistent visual design that should be used wherever OpenOffice.org is
 represented by visual means.

 The only safe way to distribute OpenOffice.org graphics and texts
 containing the logo is to use the old one, even if this recommendation is
 counterproductive to an effective OpenOffice.org marketing.

 Florian and myself have requested advise by Oracle legal on how to proceed
 in this very unsatisfactory situation, but we've got no reply up to now...

 Best regards

 Bernhard

 PS: If you would like to distribute your templates from the link above,
 please add the gulls to the logo at the right position and in the right
 size. Modifying the logo by (re)moving the gulls has not been allowed with
 the old logo either.

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