Re: [marketing] Ubuntu Remix droping OpenOffice.org
Hi, I thought I would offer some reason not to feel depressed about this topic. See the second part of my blog post: http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2010/02/09/events-non-events/ Best, Charles. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Ubuntu Remix droping OpenOffice.org
That's the first I've heard anything about it, but if it is true, then it probably isn't too good for OpenOffice.org trying to reach as many people as possible. I suppose because this is designed for netbooks, Ubuntu expects people to use online apps such as Zoho, rather than desktop apps like OOo. I just hope this isn't a sign they are thinking about dropping OOo from the Ubuntu desktop OS... Hamish On 8/02/2010 08:38, Alexandro Colorado wrote: Any thoughts on Ubuntu decision dropping OpenOffice.org from the standard REMIX edition? I guess that the decision is that the view of a netbook is not of a second laptop but of an internet appliance. At least in the US, which I dont think is too right, since for me is vital to have Impress on it to give my on the road presentations. But want to know your thoughts about it. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Ubuntu Remix droping OpenOffice.org
Alexandro Colorado wrote: Any thoughts on Ubuntu decision dropping OpenOffice.org from the standard REMIX edition? Alexandro, do you have an authoritative link describing the problem? It could be a page showing the changes or explaining their alleged motives. /Lars - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Ubuntu Remix droping OpenOffice.org
Well a simple google search will give you many posts about it. but you can read it here: http://digitizor.com/2010/02/05/openoffice-dropped-from-ubuntu-netbook-edition-10-04/ Actually it was commented during a cafe I had yesterday wtih other geeks, they wanted to know my opinion about the ubuntu decision. I know they also decided to drop other software like Gimp, and PalmOS Pilot. On 2/7/10, Lars Nooden larsnoo...@openoffice.org wrote: Alexandro Colorado wrote: Any thoughts on Ubuntu decision dropping OpenOffice.org from the standard REMIX edition? Alexandro, do you have an authoritative link describing the problem? It could be a page showing the changes or explaining their alleged motives. /Lars - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org -- Alexandro Colorado OpenOffice.org Espantilde;ol IM: j...@jabber.org
Re: [marketing] Ubuntu Remix droping OpenOffice.org
Alexandro Colorado wrote: Well a simple google search will give you many posts about it. Yes, but not authoritative ones, mostly just yammering. but you can read it here: http://digitizor.com/2010/02/05/openoffice-dropped-from-ubuntu-netbook-edition-10-04/ Thanks. The nastiness in the bait-and-switch apparent in Ubuntu 10.04 has been very visible for about two releases. The distro is a write-off at this point. OOo on netbooks is possible, though not as fast. A few years ago (or more) there was discussion of the need to trim down and streamline the OOo code. Unfortunately, the OOo programmers already do a lot of work. The rewrite would be one the scale of the Mozilla rewrite, probably larger. Small, light ODF tools the size of Geany or Kate are needed for text, if not also spreadsheets and presentations. /Lars - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Ubuntu Remix droping OpenOffice.org
On 2/7/10, Lars Nooden larsnoo...@openoffice.org wrote: Alexandro Colorado wrote: Well a simple google search will give you many posts about it. Yes, but not authoritative ones, mostly just yammering. Well I am not very close with that community to get reliable sources. but you can read it here: http://digitizor.com/2010/02/05/openoffice-dropped-from-ubuntu-netbook-edition-10-04/ Thanks. The nastiness in the bait-and-switch apparent in Ubuntu 10.04 has been very visible for about two releases. The distro is a write-off at this point. OOo on netbooks is possible, though not as fast. A few years ago (or more) there was discussion of the need to trim down and streamline the OOo code. Unfortunately, the OOo programmers already do a lot of work. The rewrite would be one the scale of the Mozilla rewrite, probably larger. Well I disagree, as an early notebook user (EEEPC 701) OOo was very well usable, I have no complains on the system slowing down or anything, The original Xandros environment was very well optimized for the system. OOo was faster on my netbook than on my laptop. Since then the processors got faster with Atom and that means that it could only get faster even more. Small, light ODF tools the size of Geany or Kate are needed for text, if not also spreadsheets and presentations. KOffice for maemo is a good example of an ODF tool for users, projects like ODFViewer on XUL is another good orphan project that should be updated and improved. /Lars - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org -- Alexandro Colorado OpenOffice.org Espantilde;ol IM: j...@jabber.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Ubuntu Remix droping OpenOffice.org
On Sun, 2010-02-07 at 22:12 +0200, Lars Nooden wrote: Alexandro Colorado wrote: Well a simple google search will give you many posts about it. Yes, but not authoritative ones, mostly just yammering. but you can read it here: http://digitizor.com/2010/02/05/openoffice-dropped-from-ubuntu-netbook-edition-10-04/ Thanks. The nastiness in the bait-and-switch apparent in Ubuntu 10.04 has been very visible for about two releases. The distro is a write-off at this point. OOo on netbooks is possible, though not as fast. A few years ago (or more) there was discussion of the need to trim down and streamline the OOo code. Unfortunately, the OOo programmers already do a lot of work. The rewrite would be one the scale of the Mozilla rewrite, probably larger. Small, light ODF tools the size of Geany or Kate are needed for text, if not also spreadsheets and presentations. I have Ubuntu on my netbook and use OOo on it occasionally, mainly Writer and Calc. Certainly I'm using Google Docs more these days for collaborative work and even just making web pages fo quite a lot I might have use a WP for a couple of years ago. With Smartphone moving into the netbook space maybe OOo trying to compete on features with MSO at the desktop is fighting the wrong out of date battle. A stripped down OOo for the Smartphone would be a killer but I suspect that by the time this could be done it will be too late. Other lightweight odf apps will surely emerge. -- Ian Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications A new approach to assessment for learning www.theINGOTs.org - 01827 305940 You have received this email from the following company: The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and Wales. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Ubuntu Remix droping OpenOffice.org
On 2/7/10, Ian ian.ly...@theingots.org wrote: On Sun, 2010-02-07 at 22:12 +0200, Lars Nooden wrote: Alexandro Colorado wrote: Well a simple google search will give you many posts about it. Yes, but not authoritative ones, mostly just yammering. but you can read it here: http://digitizor.com/2010/02/05/openoffice-dropped-from-ubuntu-netbook-edition-10-04/ Thanks. The nastiness in the bait-and-switch apparent in Ubuntu 10.04 has been very visible for about two releases. The distro is a write-off at this point. OOo on netbooks is possible, though not as fast. A few years ago (or more) there was discussion of the need to trim down and streamline the OOo code. Unfortunately, the OOo programmers already do a lot of work. The rewrite would be one the scale of the Mozilla rewrite, probably larger. Small, light ODF tools the size of Geany or Kate are needed for text, if not also spreadsheets and presentations. I have Ubuntu on my netbook and use OOo on it occasionally, mainly Writer and Calc. Certainly I'm using Google Docs more these days for Don't you do presentations on your netbook? I found presentations be the killer use of a netbook. collaborative work and even just making web pages fo quite a lot I might have use a WP for a couple of years ago. With Smartphone moving into the netbook space maybe OOo trying to compete on features with MSO at the desktop is fighting the wrong out of date battle. A stripped down OOo for the Smartphone would be a killer but I suspect that by the time this could be done it will be too late. Other lightweight odf apps will surely emerge. -- Ian Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications A new approach to assessment for learning www.theINGOTs.org - 01827 305940 From my experience I dont think the office suite is exactly what I am looking forward when doing mobile computing. At least on cellphones. The question is if I want a note application that can export to ODF and the answer is sure. Then again still not considering a Killer app. Even many PalmOS spreadsheet apps don't feel them as useful, except maybe for vieweing their content. What I did is use ODpyConvert (which should become an extension), and export all my ~/Documents/ files into PDF and then scp it to my N900. What I do need is maybe a good document manager that can read the metatag of the document and easily grep the content from it. Browing a folder with 500+ documents can be a pain in a mobile. Then again this is very Off Topic since the Ubuntu version is for NetBooks, not mobiles. -- Alexandro Colorado OpenOffice.org Espantilde;ol IM: j...@jabber.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Ubuntu Remix droping OpenOffice.org
У пон, 08. 02 2010. у 08:43 +1300, Hamish Bell пише: I suppose because this is designed for netbooks, Ubuntu expects people to use online apps such as Zoho, rather than desktop apps like OOo. The OpenOffice.org can still be installed with just few clicks over Internet connection from the official repository. I do not think Canonical was giving any commercial support for OpenOffice.org anyway. I just hope this isn't a sign they are thinking about dropping OOo from the Ubuntu desktop OS... I am sure they are very far from this decision, and again see my first point about the inpact scope. Goran - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Ubuntu Remix droping OpenOffice.org
On Sun, 2010-02-07 at 15:44 -0600, Alexandro Colorado wrote: Don't you do presentations on your netbook? I found presentations be the killer use of a netbook. Mostly I use web pages and Google's presentation stuff in Google docs because I can just embed it in a web page and share it. From my experience I dont think the office suite is exactly what I am looking forward when doing mobile computing. At least on cellphones. The question is if I want a note application that can export to ODF and the answer is sure. Then again still not considering a Killer app. Even many PalmOS spreadsheet apps don't feel them as useful, except maybe for vieweing their content. Give it a couple of years and all smart phones will be pluggable to large displays and USB keyboards. Then you won't need a netbook. Question is what software will run on them? Maybe some local some from the cloud but staying on file based desktop is a big risk. What I did is use ODpyConvert (which should become an extension), and export all my ~/Documents/ files into PDF and then scp it to my N900. What I do need is maybe a good document manager that can read the metatag of the document and easily grep the content from it. Browing a folder with 500+ documents can be a pain in a mobile. Then again this is very Off Topic since the Ubuntu version is for NetBooks, not mobiles. Mobiles are relevant simply because they are the netbooks of a few years hence. Will OOo be on them or not? -- Ian Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications A new approach to assessment for learning www.theINGOTs.org - 01827 305940 You have received this email from the following company: The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and Wales. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
