Re: [DISCUSS] Time to move AsyncHttpClient out of Sandbox

2008-01-16 Thread Trustin Lee
It's really nice to see you guys cooperating.  Let me look forward to
the incoming patches. :-)

Cheers,
Trustin


On Jan 16, 2008 4:37 AM, Jeff Genender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Keep in mind, I made a Mina 2 branch of AHC in the Geronimo sandbox a
 few weeks back...Its basically the same as the AHC Mina 1, but the APIs
 ere changed to work with Mina 2.

 But the Mina version is significantly different from the one in G right now.

 Jeff


 Sangjin Lee wrote:
  On 1/15/08, Kevan Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Jan 15, 2008, at 1:26 AM, Trustin Lee wrote:
 
  Hi Kevan,
 
  On Jan 12, 2008 2:59 AM, Kevan Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Note that this is cross-posted to geronimo dev and mina dev lists...
  Hopefully the last one...
 
  Alex and Trustin,
  Thanks for the info... More below...
 
  On Jan 9, 2008, at 6:16 PM, Trustin Lee wrote:
 
  Well, I think it's OK for the Geronimo team to fork AHC, and I'd
  like
  to respect them if Jeff already gave the information that his AHC
  work
  will be placed under MINA trunk.  They have their release schedule
  and
  I don't want to let them wait for us.  They will need to migrate to
  the official MINA AHC eventually though.  Jeff could show us better
  road map for this.
  Sounds like a good plan. We wouldn't necessarily *have* to migrate,
  but I, for one, would expect that we'll *want* to migrate to Mina
  (once Mina was able to release the functionality and assuming Mina is
  as good as AHC... ;-)
  AHC already depends on MINA.  For now, MINA has older version of AHC
  as a submodule, and Jeff is trying to move the stuff in the G sandbox
  here.
  Right. Sorry, I wasn't very clear. I should have said something like
  we'll *want* to migrate from Geronimo AHC to a Mina AHC...
 
 
  Sangjin, Rick, *and* Jeff have been making a number of changes and
  enhancements to AHC in our sandbox. Looks like some nice stuff... I
  would assume you'd be interested in their work (and would guess
  they'd
  like to share it with you)? Best to work out those details on mina
  dev, I would think... Rick has been a G committer for a while...
  Sangjin is new to our community, but has been making a number of good
  contributions to AHC.
  Sure we are! Please feel free to start to make contribution.  :)
 
  BTW is there any express procedure for accepting the existing AHC
  committers (i.e. Sangjin and Rick) in the MINA PMC?  As you know, they
  are not ASF members and didn't contribute directly to the MINA project
  so far.  I wonder what I am supposed to do.  Should I wait for some
  patches from them just like we do for most people?
  Sangjin is not a Geronimo committer, but has been making some nice
  contributions...
 
  There's no express procedure for moving code from Geronimo to Mina.
  You can always just copy the code. However, best, if Sangjin and Rick
  engaged with your community -- explaining their changes, and
  submitting patches. I'm suggesting that they do that, but it's their
  decision to make...
 
  --kevan
 
 
 
  As Kevan said, I'm not yet a Geronimo committer, but I've been actively
  providing patches around AHC, and I hope I'd be a committer soon.  It'd be
  nice to become a Mina committer as well. :)
 
  I agree the right thing to do is for us to resubmit patches to Mina.  Since
  the version of Mina the Geronimo AHC is based on is 1.1.x, I suspect simple
  copy just won't work.  We could essentially replay our patches (presumably
  in the same order), making sure things work correctly at each step.  How
  does that sound?
 
  Thanks,
  Sangjin
 




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Re: [DISCUSS] Time to move AsyncHttpClient out of Sandbox

2008-01-15 Thread Julien Vermillard
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 23:30:15 -0700
Jeff Genender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 Trustin Lee wrote:
  Sure we are! Please feel free to start to make contribution.  :)
  
  BTW is there any express procedure for accepting the existing AHC
  committers (i.e. Sangjin and Rick) in the MINA PMC? 
 
 You mean committer, not PMC? ;-)
 
  As you know, they
  are not ASF members and didn't contribute directly to the MINA
  project so far.  I wonder what I am supposed to do.  Should I wait
  for some patches from them just like we do for most people?
 
 Yes...absolutely (wait and have patches subitted or some
 contribution). Follow the Apache way ;-)
 
  
  Yet another list to subscribe to... ;-)
  
  Welcome! ;)
  
  Trustin

Hi,

If the contributions was large enough, perhaps an we simply base
our vote on the commits realised on the AHC in the Geronimo sandbox ? 

Disclamer : I'm not really fluent with ASF written and non-written
rules :)

Julien


Re: [DISCUSS] Time to move AsyncHttpClient out of Sandbox

2008-01-15 Thread Kevan Miller


On Jan 15, 2008, at 1:26 AM, Trustin Lee wrote:


Hi Kevan,

On Jan 12, 2008 2:59 AM, Kevan Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Note that this is cross-posted to geronimo dev and mina dev lists...
Hopefully the last one...

Alex and Trustin,
Thanks for the info... More below...

On Jan 9, 2008, at 6:16 PM, Trustin Lee wrote:

Well, I think it's OK for the Geronimo team to fork AHC, and I'd  
like
to respect them if Jeff already gave the information that his AHC  
work
will be placed under MINA trunk.  They have their release schedule  
and

I don't want to let them wait for us.  They will need to migrate to
the official MINA AHC eventually though.  Jeff could show us better
road map for this.


Sounds like a good plan. We wouldn't necessarily *have* to migrate,
but I, for one, would expect that we'll *want* to migrate to Mina
(once Mina was able to release the functionality and assuming Mina is
as good as AHC... ;-)


AHC already depends on MINA.  For now, MINA has older version of AHC
as a submodule, and Jeff is trying to move the stuff in the G sandbox
here.


Right. Sorry, I wasn't very clear. I should have said something like  
we'll *want* to migrate from Geronimo AHC to a Mina AHC...






Sangjin, Rick, *and* Jeff have been making a number of changes and
enhancements to AHC in our sandbox. Looks like some nice stuff... I
would assume you'd be interested in their work (and would guess  
they'd

like to share it with you)? Best to work out those details on mina
dev, I would think... Rick has been a G committer for a while...
Sangjin is new to our community, but has been making a number of good
contributions to AHC.


Sure we are! Please feel free to start to make contribution.  :)

BTW is there any express procedure for accepting the existing AHC
committers (i.e. Sangjin and Rick) in the MINA PMC?  As you know, they
are not ASF members and didn't contribute directly to the MINA project
so far.  I wonder what I am supposed to do.  Should I wait for some
patches from them just like we do for most people?


Sangjin is not a Geronimo committer, but has been making some nice  
contributions...


There's no express procedure for moving code from Geronimo to Mina.  
You can always just copy the code. However, best, if Sangjin and Rick  
engaged with your community -- explaining their changes, and  
submitting patches. I'm suggesting that they do that, but it's their  
decision to make...


--kevan

Re: [DISCUSS] Time to move AsyncHttpClient out of Sandbox

2008-01-15 Thread Sangjin Lee
On 1/15/08, Kevan Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On Jan 15, 2008, at 1:26 AM, Trustin Lee wrote:

  Hi Kevan,
 
  On Jan 12, 2008 2:59 AM, Kevan Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Note that this is cross-posted to geronimo dev and mina dev lists...
  Hopefully the last one...
 
  Alex and Trustin,
  Thanks for the info... More below...
 
  On Jan 9, 2008, at 6:16 PM, Trustin Lee wrote:
 
  Well, I think it's OK for the Geronimo team to fork AHC, and I'd
  like
  to respect them if Jeff already gave the information that his AHC
  work
  will be placed under MINA trunk.  They have their release schedule
  and
  I don't want to let them wait for us.  They will need to migrate to
  the official MINA AHC eventually though.  Jeff could show us better
  road map for this.
 
  Sounds like a good plan. We wouldn't necessarily *have* to migrate,
  but I, for one, would expect that we'll *want* to migrate to Mina
  (once Mina was able to release the functionality and assuming Mina is
  as good as AHC... ;-)
 
  AHC already depends on MINA.  For now, MINA has older version of AHC
  as a submodule, and Jeff is trying to move the stuff in the G sandbox
  here.

 Right. Sorry, I wasn't very clear. I should have said something like
 we'll *want* to migrate from Geronimo AHC to a Mina AHC...

 
 
  Sangjin, Rick, *and* Jeff have been making a number of changes and
  enhancements to AHC in our sandbox. Looks like some nice stuff... I
  would assume you'd be interested in their work (and would guess
  they'd
  like to share it with you)? Best to work out those details on mina
  dev, I would think... Rick has been a G committer for a while...
  Sangjin is new to our community, but has been making a number of good
  contributions to AHC.
 
  Sure we are! Please feel free to start to make contribution.  :)
 
  BTW is there any express procedure for accepting the existing AHC
  committers (i.e. Sangjin and Rick) in the MINA PMC?  As you know, they
  are not ASF members and didn't contribute directly to the MINA project
  so far.  I wonder what I am supposed to do.  Should I wait for some
  patches from them just like we do for most people?

 Sangjin is not a Geronimo committer, but has been making some nice
 contributions...

 There's no express procedure for moving code from Geronimo to Mina.
 You can always just copy the code. However, best, if Sangjin and Rick
 engaged with your community -- explaining their changes, and
 submitting patches. I'm suggesting that they do that, but it's their
 decision to make...

 --kevan



As Kevan said, I'm not yet a Geronimo committer, but I've been actively
providing patches around AHC, and I hope I'd be a committer soon.  It'd be
nice to become a Mina committer as well. :)

I agree the right thing to do is for us to resubmit patches to Mina.  Since
the version of Mina the Geronimo AHC is based on is 1.1.x, I suspect simple
copy just won't work.  We could essentially replay our patches (presumably
in the same order), making sure things work correctly at each step.  How
does that sound?

Thanks,
Sangjin


Re: [DISCUSS] Time to move AsyncHttpClient out of Sandbox

2008-01-15 Thread Jeff Genender
Keep in mind, I made a Mina 2 branch of AHC in the Geronimo sandbox a 
few weeks back...Its basically the same as the AHC Mina 1, but the APIs 
ere changed to work with Mina 2.


But the Mina version is significantly different from the one in G right now.

Jeff

Sangjin Lee wrote:

On 1/15/08, Kevan Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Jan 15, 2008, at 1:26 AM, Trustin Lee wrote:


Hi Kevan,

On Jan 12, 2008 2:59 AM, Kevan Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Note that this is cross-posted to geronimo dev and mina dev lists...
Hopefully the last one...

Alex and Trustin,
Thanks for the info... More below...

On Jan 9, 2008, at 6:16 PM, Trustin Lee wrote:


Well, I think it's OK for the Geronimo team to fork AHC, and I'd
like
to respect them if Jeff already gave the information that his AHC
work
will be placed under MINA trunk.  They have their release schedule
and
I don't want to let them wait for us.  They will need to migrate to
the official MINA AHC eventually though.  Jeff could show us better
road map for this.

Sounds like a good plan. We wouldn't necessarily *have* to migrate,
but I, for one, would expect that we'll *want* to migrate to Mina
(once Mina was able to release the functionality and assuming Mina is
as good as AHC... ;-)

AHC already depends on MINA.  For now, MINA has older version of AHC
as a submodule, and Jeff is trying to move the stuff in the G sandbox
here.

Right. Sorry, I wasn't very clear. I should have said something like
we'll *want* to migrate from Geronimo AHC to a Mina AHC...




Sangjin, Rick, *and* Jeff have been making a number of changes and
enhancements to AHC in our sandbox. Looks like some nice stuff... I
would assume you'd be interested in their work (and would guess
they'd
like to share it with you)? Best to work out those details on mina
dev, I would think... Rick has been a G committer for a while...
Sangjin is new to our community, but has been making a number of good
contributions to AHC.

Sure we are! Please feel free to start to make contribution.  :)

BTW is there any express procedure for accepting the existing AHC
committers (i.e. Sangjin and Rick) in the MINA PMC?  As you know, they
are not ASF members and didn't contribute directly to the MINA project
so far.  I wonder what I am supposed to do.  Should I wait for some
patches from them just like we do for most people?

Sangjin is not a Geronimo committer, but has been making some nice
contributions...

There's no express procedure for moving code from Geronimo to Mina.
You can always just copy the code. However, best, if Sangjin and Rick
engaged with your community -- explaining their changes, and
submitting patches. I'm suggesting that they do that, but it's their
decision to make...

--kevan




As Kevan said, I'm not yet a Geronimo committer, but I've been actively
providing patches around AHC, and I hope I'd be a committer soon.  It'd be
nice to become a Mina committer as well. :)

I agree the right thing to do is for us to resubmit patches to Mina.  Since
the version of Mina the Geronimo AHC is based on is 1.1.x, I suspect simple
copy just won't work.  We could essentially replay our patches (presumably
in the same order), making sure things work correctly at each step.  How
does that sound?

Thanks,
Sangjin



Re: [DISCUSS] Time to move AsyncHttpClient out of Sandbox

2008-01-15 Thread Sangjin Lee
Jeff,
Can you point me to the Mina 2 branch of AHC in G sandbox?

Thanks,
Sangjin

On 1/15/08, Jeff Genender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Keep in mind, I made a Mina 2 branch of AHC in the Geronimo sandbox a
 few weeks back...Its basically the same as the AHC Mina 1, but the APIs
 ere changed to work with Mina 2.

 But the Mina version is significantly different from the one in G right
 now.

 Jeff

 Sangjin Lee wrote:
  On 1/15/08, Kevan Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Jan 15, 2008, at 1:26 AM, Trustin Lee wrote:
 
  Hi Kevan,
 
  On Jan 12, 2008 2:59 AM, Kevan Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Note that this is cross-posted to geronimo dev and mina dev lists...
  Hopefully the last one...
 
  Alex and Trustin,
  Thanks for the info... More below...
 
  On Jan 9, 2008, at 6:16 PM, Trustin Lee wrote:
 
  Well, I think it's OK for the Geronimo team to fork AHC, and I'd
  like
  to respect them if Jeff already gave the information that his AHC
  work
  will be placed under MINA trunk.  They have their release schedule
  and
  I don't want to let them wait for us.  They will need to migrate to
  the official MINA AHC eventually though.  Jeff could show us better
  road map for this.
  Sounds like a good plan. We wouldn't necessarily *have* to migrate,
  but I, for one, would expect that we'll *want* to migrate to Mina
  (once Mina was able to release the functionality and assuming Mina is
  as good as AHC... ;-)
  AHC already depends on MINA.  For now, MINA has older version of AHC
  as a submodule, and Jeff is trying to move the stuff in the G sandbox
  here.
  Right. Sorry, I wasn't very clear. I should have said something like
  we'll *want* to migrate from Geronimo AHC to a Mina AHC...
 
 
  Sangjin, Rick, *and* Jeff have been making a number of changes and
  enhancements to AHC in our sandbox. Looks like some nice stuff... I
  would assume you'd be interested in their work (and would guess
  they'd
  like to share it with you)? Best to work out those details on mina
  dev, I would think... Rick has been a G committer for a while...
  Sangjin is new to our community, but has been making a number of good
  contributions to AHC.
  Sure we are! Please feel free to start to make contribution.  :)
 
  BTW is there any express procedure for accepting the existing AHC
  committers (i.e. Sangjin and Rick) in the MINA PMC?  As you know, they
  are not ASF members and didn't contribute directly to the MINA project
  so far.  I wonder what I am supposed to do.  Should I wait for some
  patches from them just like we do for most people?
  Sangjin is not a Geronimo committer, but has been making some nice
  contributions...
 
  There's no express procedure for moving code from Geronimo to Mina.
  You can always just copy the code. However, best, if Sangjin and Rick
  engaged with your community -- explaining their changes, and
  submitting patches. I'm suggesting that they do that, but it's their
  decision to make...
 
  --kevan
 
 
 
  As Kevan said, I'm not yet a Geronimo committer, but I've been actively
  providing patches around AHC, and I hope I'd be a committer soon.  It'd
 be
  nice to become a Mina committer as well. :)
 
  I agree the right thing to do is for us to resubmit patches to
 Mina.  Since
  the version of Mina the Geronimo AHC is based on is 1.1.x, I suspect
 simple
  copy just won't work.  We could essentially replay our patches
 (presumably
  in the same order), making sure things work correctly at each step.  How
  does that sound?
 
  Thanks,
  Sangjin
 



Re: [DISCUSS] Time to move AsyncHttpClient out of Sandbox

2008-01-15 Thread Jeff Genender

Hi sangjin,

http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/sandbox/async-http-client-mina2/

Jeff

Sangjin Lee wrote:

Jeff,
Can you point me to the Mina 2 branch of AHC in G sandbox?

Thanks,
Sangjin

On 1/15/08, Jeff Genender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Keep in mind, I made a Mina 2 branch of AHC in the Geronimo sandbox a
few weeks back...Its basically the same as the AHC Mina 1, but the APIs
ere changed to work with Mina 2.

But the Mina version is significantly different from the one in G right
now.

Jeff

Sangjin Lee wrote:

On 1/15/08, Kevan Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Jan 15, 2008, at 1:26 AM, Trustin Lee wrote:


Hi Kevan,

On Jan 12, 2008 2:59 AM, Kevan Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Note that this is cross-posted to geronimo dev and mina dev lists...
Hopefully the last one...

Alex and Trustin,
Thanks for the info... More below...

On Jan 9, 2008, at 6:16 PM, Trustin Lee wrote:


Well, I think it's OK for the Geronimo team to fork AHC, and I'd
like
to respect them if Jeff already gave the information that his AHC
work
will be placed under MINA trunk.  They have their release schedule
and
I don't want to let them wait for us.  They will need to migrate to
the official MINA AHC eventually though.  Jeff could show us better
road map for this.

Sounds like a good plan. We wouldn't necessarily *have* to migrate,
but I, for one, would expect that we'll *want* to migrate to Mina
(once Mina was able to release the functionality and assuming Mina is
as good as AHC... ;-)

AHC already depends on MINA.  For now, MINA has older version of AHC
as a submodule, and Jeff is trying to move the stuff in the G sandbox
here.

Right. Sorry, I wasn't very clear. I should have said something like
we'll *want* to migrate from Geronimo AHC to a Mina AHC...


Sangjin, Rick, *and* Jeff have been making a number of changes and
enhancements to AHC in our sandbox. Looks like some nice stuff... I
would assume you'd be interested in their work (and would guess
they'd
like to share it with you)? Best to work out those details on mina
dev, I would think... Rick has been a G committer for a while...
Sangjin is new to our community, but has been making a number of good
contributions to AHC.

Sure we are! Please feel free to start to make contribution.  :)

BTW is there any express procedure for accepting the existing AHC
committers (i.e. Sangjin and Rick) in the MINA PMC?  As you know, they
are not ASF members and didn't contribute directly to the MINA project
so far.  I wonder what I am supposed to do.  Should I wait for some
patches from them just like we do for most people?

Sangjin is not a Geronimo committer, but has been making some nice
contributions...

There's no express procedure for moving code from Geronimo to Mina.
You can always just copy the code. However, best, if Sangjin and Rick
engaged with your community -- explaining their changes, and
submitting patches. I'm suggesting that they do that, but it's their
decision to make...

--kevan



As Kevan said, I'm not yet a Geronimo committer, but I've been actively
providing patches around AHC, and I hope I'd be a committer soon.  It'd

be

nice to become a Mina committer as well. :)

I agree the right thing to do is for us to resubmit patches to

Mina.  Since

the version of Mina the Geronimo AHC is based on is 1.1.x, I suspect

simple

copy just won't work.  We could essentially replay our patches

(presumably

in the same order), making sure things work correctly at each step.  How
does that sound?

Thanks,
Sangjin





Re: [DISCUSS] Time to move AsyncHttpClient out of Sandbox

2008-01-14 Thread Trustin Lee
Hi Kevan,

On Jan 12, 2008 2:59 AM, Kevan Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Note that this is cross-posted to geronimo dev and mina dev lists...
 Hopefully the last one...

 Alex and Trustin,
 Thanks for the info... More below...

 On Jan 9, 2008, at 6:16 PM, Trustin Lee wrote:

  Well, I think it's OK for the Geronimo team to fork AHC, and I'd like
  to respect them if Jeff already gave the information that his AHC work
  will be placed under MINA trunk.  They have their release schedule and
  I don't want to let them wait for us.  They will need to migrate to
  the official MINA AHC eventually though.  Jeff could show us better
  road map for this.

 Sounds like a good plan. We wouldn't necessarily *have* to migrate,
 but I, for one, would expect that we'll *want* to migrate to Mina
 (once Mina was able to release the functionality and assuming Mina is
 as good as AHC... ;-)

AHC already depends on MINA.  For now, MINA has older version of AHC
as a submodule, and Jeff is trying to move the stuff in the G sandbox
here.

 Sangjin, Rick, *and* Jeff have been making a number of changes and
 enhancements to AHC in our sandbox. Looks like some nice stuff... I
 would assume you'd be interested in their work (and would guess they'd
 like to share it with you)? Best to work out those details on mina
 dev, I would think... Rick has been a G committer for a while...
 Sangjin is new to our community, but has been making a number of good
 contributions to AHC.

Sure we are! Please feel free to start to make contribution.  :)

BTW is there any express procedure for accepting the existing AHC
committers (i.e. Sangjin and Rick) in the MINA PMC?  As you know, they
are not ASF members and didn't contribute directly to the MINA project
so far.  I wonder what I am supposed to do.  Should I wait for some
patches from them just like we do for most people?

 Yet another list to subscribe to... ;-)

Welcome! ;)

Trustin
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Re: [DISCUSS] Time to move AsyncHttpClient out of Sandbox

2008-01-14 Thread Jeff Genender



Trustin Lee wrote:

Sure we are! Please feel free to start to make contribution.  :)

BTW is there any express procedure for accepting the existing AHC
committers (i.e. Sangjin and Rick) in the MINA PMC? 


You mean committer, not PMC? ;-)


As you know, they
are not ASF members and didn't contribute directly to the MINA project
so far.  I wonder what I am supposed to do.  Should I wait for some
patches from them just like we do for most people?


Yes...absolutely (wait and have patches subitted or some contribution). 
 Follow the Apache way ;-)





Yet another list to subscribe to... ;-)


Welcome! ;)

Trustin


Re: [DISCUSS] Time to move AsyncHttpClient out of Sandbox

2008-01-11 Thread Kevan Miller
Note that this is cross-posted to geronimo dev and mina dev lists...  
Hopefully the last one...


Alex and Trustin,
Thanks for the info... More below...

On Jan 9, 2008, at 6:16 PM, Trustin Lee wrote:


Well, I think it's OK for the Geronimo team to fork AHC, and I'd like
to respect them if Jeff already gave the information that his AHC work
will be placed under MINA trunk.  They have their release schedule and
I don't want to let them wait for us.  They will need to migrate to
the official MINA AHC eventually though.  Jeff could show us better
road map for this.


Sounds like a good plan. We wouldn't necessarily *have* to migrate,  
but I, for one, would expect that we'll *want* to migrate to Mina  
(once Mina was able to release the functionality and assuming Mina is  
as good as AHC... ;-)


Sangjin, Rick, *and* Jeff have been making a number of changes and  
enhancements to AHC in our sandbox. Looks like some nice stuff... I  
would assume you'd be interested in their work (and would guess they'd  
like to share it with you)? Best to work out those details on mina  
dev, I would think... Rick has been a G committer for a while...  
Sangjin is new to our community, but has been making a number of good  
contributions to AHC.


Yet another list to subscribe to... ;-)

--kevan



Re: [DISCUSS] Time to move AsyncHttpClient out of Sandbox

2008-01-09 Thread Alex Karasulu
I think Jeff started working on some of it over at MINA btw.  Excuse the
cross post.

Alex

On Jan 9, 2008 4:10 PM, Matt Hogstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If it is better and easier than http-client are they interested in
 it?  Seems like a logical fit.  That said, I think Genender boy wanted
 to melt some metal when he started this work.  If it remains without a
 home I'd put it in components and let folks pick it up if they are
 interested.

 On Jan 9, 2008, at 9:55 AM, Kevan Miller wrote:

 
  On Jan 8, 2008, at 9:59 AM, Donald Woods wrote:
 
  #3 is okay with me.  Was just thinking that #2 (plugin) would allow
  us to expose it on our plugin website and allow other users to just
  place a dependency on it in their plugins
 
  Oops. Got distracted and forgot to reply...
 
  I was thinking that AHC functionality could be released under
  components (and thus easier to consume by other projects). We can
  then create a plugin which includes this component. So, really a
  combination of 2 and 3.
 
  --kevan
 
 
 
 
  -Donald
 
  Kevan Miller wrote:
  On Jan 5, 2008, at 2:45 PM, Donald Woods wrote:
  There has been a lot of ongoing work by Jeff, Prasad, Rick,
  Sangjin and others on the AsyncHttpClient (aka. AHC) code in the
  sandbox and I'd like to start the discussion on moving it from
  sandbox into trunk.
 
  There are a couple options as to where it could reside -
  1) under server/trunk/applications
  2) under server/trunk/plugins
  3) under geronimo/components/
 
  What are everyone's thoughts?  I'd like to get this into our 2.1
  release and possibly into the 2.0.x branch if time allows.
  Personally, I don't think it should go into server/trunk.
  There's a 4'th option -- create a subproject (e.g. geronimo/ahc).
  The only real difference,  between this and 3) is web site, jira,
  etc.
  At the moment, I'm leaning towards 3) -- geronimo/components/ahc
  (or some more descriptive name), but could probably be swayed...
  --kevan
 
 




Re: [DISCUSS] Time to move AsyncHttpClient out of Sandbox

2008-01-09 Thread Trustin Lee
AsyncWeb and Jeff's AsyncHttpClient are different projects.  Anyways,
Jeff is free to modify the trunk, which already contains
AsyncHttpClient, whenever he wants.  He made some big changes in
Geronimo sandbox before I made some big changes in his original
contribution, and that's why it's taking some time.  So.. Jeff will
migrate the code to the trunk eventually I guess.

IMHO, AsyncWeb itself, being David (Irving) the original contributor
of the project, needs more work and more contributor(s) to become a
part of the trunk because David seems to be too busy to follow up the
subproject for now unfortunately.  Where are you David?  We miss you
so much! :)

Trustin

On Jan 10, 2008 6:16 AM, Alex Karasulu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I think Jeff started working on some of it over at MINA btw.  Excuse the
 cross post.

 Alex

 On Jan 9, 2008 4:10 PM, Matt Hogstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  If it is better and easier than http-client are they interested in
  it?  Seems like a logical fit.  That said, I think Genender boy wanted
  to melt some metal when he started this work.  If it remains without a
  home I'd put it in components and let folks pick it up if they are
  interested.
 
  On Jan 9, 2008, at 9:55 AM, Kevan Miller wrote:
 
  
   On Jan 8, 2008, at 9:59 AM, Donald Woods wrote:
  
   #3 is okay with me.  Was just thinking that #2 (plugin) would allow
   us to expose it on our plugin website and allow other users to just
   place a dependency on it in their plugins
  
   Oops. Got distracted and forgot to reply...
  
   I was thinking that AHC functionality could be released under
   components (and thus easier to consume by other projects). We can
   then create a plugin which includes this component. So, really a
   combination of 2 and 3.
  
   --kevan
  
  
  
  
   -Donald
  
   Kevan Miller wrote:
   On Jan 5, 2008, at 2:45 PM, Donald Woods wrote:
   There has been a lot of ongoing work by Jeff, Prasad, Rick,
   Sangjin and others on the AsyncHttpClient (aka. AHC) code in the
   sandbox and I'd like to start the discussion on moving it from
   sandbox into trunk.
  
   There are a couple options as to where it could reside -
   1) under server/trunk/applications
   2) under server/trunk/plugins
   3) under geronimo/components/
  
   What are everyone's thoughts?  I'd like to get this into our 2.1
   release and possibly into the 2.0.x branch if time allows.
   Personally, I don't think it should go into server/trunk.
   There's a 4'th option -- create a subproject (e.g. geronimo/ahc).
   The only real difference,  between this and 3) is web site, jira,
   etc.
   At the moment, I'm leaning towards 3) -- geronimo/components/ahc
   (or some more descriptive name), but could probably be swayed...
   --kevan
  
  
 
 




-- 
what we call human nature is actually human habit
--
http://gleamynode.net/
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PGP Key ID: 0x0255ECA6


Re: [DISCUSS] Time to move AsyncHttpClient out of Sandbox

2008-01-09 Thread Jeff Genender


Trustin Lee wrote:
 AsyncWeb and Jeff's AsyncHttpClient are different projects.  Anyways,
 Jeff is free to modify the trunk, which already contains
 AsyncHttpClient, whenever he wants.  He made some big changes in
 Geronimo sandbox before I made some big changes in his original
 contribution, and that's why it's taking some time.  So.. Jeff will
 migrate the code to the trunk eventually I guess.

Yes I will ;-) I am swamped at the moment...but I will ;-)

Jeff

 
 IMHO, AsyncWeb itself, being David (Irving) the original contributor
 of the project, needs more work and more contributor(s) to become a
 part of the trunk because David seems to be too busy to follow up the
 subproject for now unfortunately.  Where are you David?  We miss you
 so much! :)
 
 Trustin
 
 On Jan 10, 2008 6:16 AM, Alex Karasulu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I think Jeff started working on some of it over at MINA btw.  Excuse the
 cross post.

 Alex

 On Jan 9, 2008 4:10 PM, Matt Hogstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If it is better and easier than http-client are they interested in
 it?  Seems like a logical fit.  That said, I think Genender boy wanted
 to melt some metal when he started this work.  If it remains without a
 home I'd put it in components and let folks pick it up if they are
 interested.

 On Jan 9, 2008, at 9:55 AM, Kevan Miller wrote:

 On Jan 8, 2008, at 9:59 AM, Donald Woods wrote:

 #3 is okay with me.  Was just thinking that #2 (plugin) would allow
 us to expose it on our plugin website and allow other users to just
 place a dependency on it in their plugins
 Oops. Got distracted and forgot to reply...

 I was thinking that AHC functionality could be released under
 components (and thus easier to consume by other projects). We can
 then create a plugin which includes this component. So, really a
 combination of 2 and 3.

 --kevan



 -Donald

 Kevan Miller wrote:
 On Jan 5, 2008, at 2:45 PM, Donald Woods wrote:
 There has been a lot of ongoing work by Jeff, Prasad, Rick,
 Sangjin and others on the AsyncHttpClient (aka. AHC) code in the
 sandbox and I'd like to start the discussion on moving it from
 sandbox into trunk.

 There are a couple options as to where it could reside -
 1) under server/trunk/applications
 2) under server/trunk/plugins
 3) under geronimo/components/

 What are everyone's thoughts?  I'd like to get this into our 2.1
 release and possibly into the 2.0.x branch if time allows.
 Personally, I don't think it should go into server/trunk.
 There's a 4'th option -- create a subproject (e.g. geronimo/ahc).
 The only real difference,  between this and 3) is web site, jira,
 etc.
 At the moment, I'm leaning towards 3) -- geronimo/components/ahc
 (or some more descriptive name), but could probably be swayed...
 --kevan


 
 
 


Re: [DISCUSS] Time to move AsyncHttpClient out of Sandbox

2008-01-09 Thread Trustin Lee
On Jan 10, 2008 7:02 AM, Jeff Genender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Trustin Lee wrote:
  AsyncWeb and Jeff's AsyncHttpClient are different projects.  Anyways,
  Jeff is free to modify the trunk, which already contains
  AsyncHttpClient, whenever he wants.  He made some big changes in
  Geronimo sandbox before I made some big changes in his original
  contribution, and that's why it's taking some time.  So.. Jeff will
  migrate the code to the trunk eventually I guess.

 Yes I will ;-) I am swamped at the moment...but I will ;-)

;-)

Cheers,
Trustin
-- 
what we call human nature is actually human habit
--
http://gleamynode.net/
--
PGP Key ID: 0x0255ECA6


Re: [DISCUSS] Time to move AsyncHttpClient out of Sandbox

2008-01-09 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Jan 9, 2008 4:57 PM, Trustin Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 AsyncWeb and Jeff's AsyncHttpClient are different projects.  Anyways,
 Jeff is free to modify the trunk, which already contains
 AsyncHttpClient, whenever he wants.


I know that.

You obviously missed why I posted this information.  The AsyncHttpClient
code Jeff worked on in his Geronimo sandbox is about to get forked over to
some other project.  The Geronimo folks are looking for a home for it. I
wanted people in general to know that Jeff is here working on that stuff.

Makes sense?

Alex



 On Jan 10, 2008 6:16 AM, Alex Karasulu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I think Jeff started working on some of it over at MINA btw.  Excuse the
  cross post.
 
  Alex
 
  On Jan 9, 2008 4:10 PM, Matt Hogstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   If it is better and easier than http-client are they interested in
   it?  Seems like a logical fit.  That said, I think Genender boy wanted
   to melt some metal when he started this work.  If it remains without a
   home I'd put it in components and let folks pick it up if they are
   interested.
  
   On Jan 9, 2008, at 9:55 AM, Kevan Miller wrote:
  
   
On Jan 8, 2008, at 9:59 AM, Donald Woods wrote:
   
#3 is okay with me.  Was just thinking that #2 (plugin) would allow
us to expose it on our plugin website and allow other users to just
place a dependency on it in their plugins
   
Oops. Got distracted and forgot to reply...
   
I was thinking that AHC functionality could be released under
components (and thus easier to consume by other projects). We can
then create a plugin which includes this component. So, really a
combination of 2 and 3.
   
--kevan
   
   
   
   
-Donald
   
Kevan Miller wrote:
On Jan 5, 2008, at 2:45 PM, Donald Woods wrote:
There has been a lot of ongoing work by Jeff, Prasad, Rick,
Sangjin and others on the AsyncHttpClient (aka. AHC) code in the
sandbox and I'd like to start the discussion on moving it from
sandbox into trunk.
   
There are a couple options as to where it could reside -
1) under server/trunk/applications
2) under server/trunk/plugins
3) under geronimo/components/
   
What are everyone's thoughts?  I'd like to get this into our 2.1
release and possibly into the 2.0.x branch if time allows.
Personally, I don't think it should go into server/trunk.
There's a 4'th option -- create a subproject (e.g. geronimo/ahc).
The only real difference,  between this and 3) is web site, jira,
etc.
At the moment, I'm leaning towards 3) -- geronimo/components/ahc
(or some more descriptive name), but could probably be swayed...
--kevan
   
   
  
  
 



 --
 what we call human nature is actually human habit
 --
 http://gleamynode.net/
 --
 PGP Key ID: 0x0255ECA6



Re: [DISCUSS] Time to move AsyncHttpClient out of Sandbox

2008-01-09 Thread Alex Karasulu
I think you missed it again.  See here:

   On Jan 9, 2008 4:10 PM, Matt Hogstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
If it is better and easier than http-client are they interested in
it?  Seems like a logical fit.  That said, I think Genender boy
wanted
to melt some metal when he started this work.  If it remains without
a
home I'd put it in components and let folks pick it up if they are
interested.

They don't want to fork it at Geronimo but would prefer it to find a home
that is more fitting. http-client was mentioned.

Alex

On Jan 9, 2008 6:16 PM, Trustin Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well, I think it's OK for the Geronimo team to fork AHC, and I'd like
 to respect them if Jeff already gave the information that his AHC work
 will be placed under MINA trunk.  They have their release schedule and
 I don't want to let them wait for us.  They will need to migrate to
 the official MINA AHC eventually though.  Jeff could show us better
 road map for this.

 Trustin

 On Jan 10, 2008 7:55 AM, Alex Karasulu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Jan 9, 2008 4:57 PM, Trustin Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   AsyncWeb and Jeff's AsyncHttpClient are different projects.  Anyways,
   Jeff is free to modify the trunk, which already contains
   AsyncHttpClient, whenever he wants.
 
  I know that.
 
  You obviously missed why I posted this information.  The AsyncHttpClient
  code Jeff worked on in his Geronimo sandbox is about to get forked over
 to
  some other project.  The Geronimo folks are looking for a home for it. I
  wanted people in general to know that Jeff is here working on that
 stuff.
 
  Makes sense?

 Yep, thanks for the information.


 On Jan 10, 2008 7:02 AM, Jeff Genender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Trustin Lee wrote:
   He made some big changes in
   Geronimo sandbox before I made some big changes in his original
   contribution, and that's why it's taking some time.  So.. Jeff will
   migrate the code to the trunk eventually I guess.
 
  Yes I will ;-) I am swamped at the moment...but I will ;-)

   On Jan 10, 2008 6:16 AM, Alex Karasulu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think Jeff started working on some of it over at MINA btw.  Excuse
 the
cross post.
   
Alex
   
On Jan 9, 2008 4:10 PM, Matt Hogstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 If it is better and easier than http-client are they interested in
 it?  Seems like a logical fit.  That said, I think Genender boy
 wanted
 to melt some metal when he started this work.  If it remains
 without a
 home I'd put it in components and let folks pick it up if they are
 interested.

 On Jan 9, 2008, at 9:55 AM, Kevan Miller wrote:

 
  On Jan 8, 2008, at 9:59 AM, Donald Woods wrote:
 
  #3 is okay with me.  Was just thinking that #2 (plugin) would
 allow
  us to expose it on our plugin website and allow other users to
 just
  place a dependency on it in their plugins
 
  Oops. Got distracted and forgot to reply...
 
  I was thinking that AHC functionality could be released under
  components (and thus easier to consume by other projects). We
 can
  then create a plugin which includes this component. So, really a
  combination of 2 and 3.
 
  --kevan
 
 
 
 
  -Donald
 
  Kevan Miller wrote:
  On Jan 5, 2008, at 2:45 PM, Donald Woods wrote:
  There has been a lot of ongoing work by Jeff, Prasad, Rick,
  Sangjin and others on the AsyncHttpClient (aka. AHC) code in
 the
  sandbox and I'd like to start the discussion on moving it
 from
  sandbox into trunk.
 
  There are a couple options as to where it could reside -
  1) under server/trunk/applications
  2) under server/trunk/plugins
  3) under geronimo/components/
 
  What are everyone's thoughts?  I'd like to get this into our
 2.1
  release and possibly into the 2.0.x branch if time allows.
  Personally, I don't think it should go into server/trunk.
  There's a 4'th option -- create a subproject (e.g.
 geronimo/ahc).
  The only real difference,  between this and 3) is web site,
 jira,
  etc.
  At the moment, I'm leaning towards 3) --
 geronimo/components/ahc
  (or some more descriptive name), but could probably be
 swayed...
  --kevan
 
 


   
  
  
  
   --
   what we call human nature is actually human habit
   --
   http://gleamynode.net/
   --
   PGP Key ID: 0x0255ECA6
  
 



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Re: [DISCUSS] Time to move AsyncHttpClient out of Sandbox

2008-01-09 Thread Trustin Lee
What's important is actually not where to host it or whether to fork
or not - Jeff, the main contributor of the project, and the MINA team
already decided to host it under the MINA trunk and Jeff wants to keep
working on here with AHC.  So I think Jeff will take care of the
Geronimo discussion properly.  I also think it's OK even if they do
whatever they want to do with G sandbox as long as Jeff will keep
working here, which is much more reasonable than hosting it under
HttpComponent project or Geronimo trunk.  Jeff should explain this to
the Geronimo team and I believe he already did very enough as a person
who wants to host it here.

Trustin

On Jan 10, 2008 8:27 AM, Alex Karasulu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I think you missed it again.  See here:

On Jan 9, 2008 4:10 PM, Matt Hogstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 If it is better and easier than http-client are they interested in
 it?  Seems like a logical fit.  That said, I think Genender boy
 wanted
 to melt some metal when he started this work.  If it remains without
 a
 home I'd put it in components and let folks pick it up if they are
 interested.

 They don't want to fork it at Geronimo but would prefer it to find a home
 that is more fitting. http-client was mentioned.

 Alex


 On Jan 9, 2008 6:16 PM, Trustin Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Well, I think it's OK for the Geronimo team to fork AHC, and I'd like
  to respect them if Jeff already gave the information that his AHC work
  will be placed under MINA trunk.  They have their release schedule and
  I don't want to let them wait for us.  They will need to migrate to
  the official MINA AHC eventually though.  Jeff could show us better
  road map for this.
 
  Trustin
 
  On Jan 10, 2008 7:55 AM, Alex Karasulu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Jan 9, 2008 4:57 PM, Trustin Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
AsyncWeb and Jeff's AsyncHttpClient are different projects.  Anyways,
Jeff is free to modify the trunk, which already contains
AsyncHttpClient, whenever he wants.
  
   I know that.
  
   You obviously missed why I posted this information.  The AsyncHttpClient
   code Jeff worked on in his Geronimo sandbox is about to get forked over
  to
   some other project.  The Geronimo folks are looking for a home for it. I
   wanted people in general to know that Jeff is here working on that
  stuff.
  
   Makes sense?
 
  Yep, thanks for the information.
 
 
  On Jan 10, 2008 7:02 AM, Jeff Genender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Trustin Lee wrote:
He made some big changes in
Geronimo sandbox before I made some big changes in his original
contribution, and that's why it's taking some time.  So.. Jeff will
migrate the code to the trunk eventually I guess.
  
   Yes I will ;-) I am swamped at the moment...but I will ;-)
 
On Jan 10, 2008 6:16 AM, Alex Karasulu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I think Jeff started working on some of it over at MINA btw.  Excuse
  the
 cross post.

 Alex

 On Jan 9, 2008 4:10 PM, Matt Hogstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  If it is better and easier than http-client are they interested in
  it?  Seems like a logical fit.  That said, I think Genender boy
  wanted
  to melt some metal when he started this work.  If it remains
  without a
  home I'd put it in components and let folks pick it up if they are
  interested.
 
  On Jan 9, 2008, at 9:55 AM, Kevan Miller wrote:
 
  
   On Jan 8, 2008, at 9:59 AM, Donald Woods wrote:
  
   #3 is okay with me.  Was just thinking that #2 (plugin) would
  allow
   us to expose it on our plugin website and allow other users to
  just
   place a dependency on it in their plugins
  
   Oops. Got distracted and forgot to reply...
  
   I was thinking that AHC functionality could be released under
   components (and thus easier to consume by other projects). We
  can
   then create a plugin which includes this component. So, really a
   combination of 2 and 3.
  
   --kevan
  
  
  
  
   -Donald
  
   Kevan Miller wrote:
   On Jan 5, 2008, at 2:45 PM, Donald Woods wrote:
   There has been a lot of ongoing work by Jeff, Prasad, Rick,
   Sangjin and others on the AsyncHttpClient (aka. AHC) code in
  the
   sandbox and I'd like to start the discussion on moving it
  from
   sandbox into trunk.
  
   There are a couple options as to where it could reside -
   1) under server/trunk/applications
   2) under server/trunk/plugins
   3) under geronimo/components/
  
   What are everyone's thoughts?  I'd like to get this into our
  2.1
   release and possibly into the 2.0.x branch if time allows.
   Personally, I don't think it should go into server/trunk.
   There's a 4'th option -- create a subproject (e.g.
  geronimo/ahc).
   The only real difference,  between this and 3) is web site,
  jira,

Re: [DISCUSS] Time to move AsyncHttpClient out of Sandbox

2008-01-09 Thread Emmanuel Lecharny

Hey,

Alex just posted some X-post information to MINA and Geronimo, just to 
inform MINA that Geronimo want to get Jeff's work out from Sandbox.


What are all the next mails about ? I see mentions of a kind of roadmap 
for geronimo, and some other informations about asynchweb which is 
totally a different beast... I think some context has been added, and 
not through mails...


Any heads up ?


Trustin Lee wrote:

What's important is actually not where to host it or whether to fork
or not - Jeff, the main contributor of the project, and the MINA team
already decided to host it under the MINA trunk and Jeff wants to keep
working on here with AHC.  So I think Jeff will take care of the
Geronimo discussion properly.  I also think it's OK even if they do
whatever they want to do with G sandbox as long as Jeff will keep
working here, which is much more reasonable than hosting it under
HttpComponent project or Geronimo trunk.  Jeff should explain this to
the Geronimo team and I believe he already did very enough as a person
who wants to host it here.

Trustin

On Jan 10, 2008 8:27 AM, Alex Karasulu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

I think you missed it again.  See here:



On Jan 9, 2008 4:10 PM, Matt Hogstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

If it is better and easier than http-client are they interested in
it?  Seems like a logical fit.  That said, I think Genender boy


wanted


to melt some metal when he started this work.  If it remains without


a


home I'd put it in components and let folks pick it up if they are
interested.


They don't want to fork it at Geronimo but would prefer it to find a home
that is more fitting. http-client was mentioned.

Alex


On Jan 9, 2008 6:16 PM, Trustin Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Well, I think it's OK for the Geronimo team to fork AHC, and I'd like
to respect them if Jeff already gave the information that his AHC work
will be placed under MINA trunk.  They have their release schedule and
I don't want to let them wait for us.  They will need to migrate to
the official MINA AHC eventually though.  Jeff could show us better
road map for this.

Trustin

On Jan 10, 2008 7:55 AM, Alex Karasulu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

On Jan 9, 2008 4:57 PM, Trustin Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



AsyncWeb and Jeff's AsyncHttpClient are different projects.  Anyways,
Jeff is free to modify the trunk, which already contains
AsyncHttpClient, whenever he wants.
  

I know that.

You obviously missed why I posted this information.  The AsyncHttpClient
code Jeff worked on in his Geronimo sandbox is about to get forked over


to
  

some other project.  The Geronimo folks are looking for a home for it. I
wanted people in general to know that Jeff is here working on that


stuff.
  

Makes sense?


Yep, thanks for the information.


On Jan 10, 2008 7:02 AM, Jeff Genender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Trustin Lee wrote:


He made some big changes in
Geronimo sandbox before I made some big changes in his original
contribution, and that's why it's taking some time.  So.. Jeff will
migrate the code to the trunk eventually I guess.
  

Yes I will ;-) I am swamped at the moment...but I will ;-)


On Jan 10, 2008 6:16 AM, Alex Karasulu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

I think Jeff started working on some of it over at MINA btw.  Excuse


the
  

cross post.

Alex

On Jan 9, 2008 4:10 PM, Matt Hogstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



If it is better and easier than http-client are they interested in
it?  Seems like a logical fit.  That said, I think Genender boy
  

wanted
  

to melt some metal when he started this work.  If it remains
  

without a
  

home I'd put it in components and let folks pick it up if they are
interested.

On Jan 9, 2008, at 9:55 AM, Kevan Miller wrote:

  

On Jan 8, 2008, at 9:59 AM, Donald Woods wrote:



#3 is okay with me.  Was just thinking that #2 (plugin) would
  

allow
  

us to expose it on our plugin website and allow other users to
  

just
  

place a dependency on it in their plugins
  

Oops. Got distracted and forgot to reply...

I was thinking that AHC functionality could be released under
components (and thus easier to consume by other projects). We


can
  

then create a plugin which includes this component. So, really a
combination of 2 and 3.

--kevan




-Donald

Kevan Miller wrote:
  

On Jan 5, 2008, at 2:45 PM, Donald Woods wrote:


There has been a lot of ongoing work by Jeff, Prasad, Rick,
Sangjin and others on the AsyncHttpClient (aka. AHC) code in
  

the
  

sandbox and I'd like to start the discussion on moving it
  

from
  

sandbox into 

Re: [DISCUSS] Time to move AsyncHttpClient out of Sandbox

2008-01-09 Thread Jeff Genender
Ugg...yeah...we need to get that team looking at our stuff.  The problem
is that the large delta is where the problem is going to be.  I would
like to see the delta be made and brought over here and have them work
over here.

Jeff

Emmanuel Lecharny wrote:
 Hey,
 
 Alex just posted some X-post information to MINA and Geronimo, just to
 inform MINA that Geronimo want to get Jeff's work out from Sandbox.
 
 What are all the next mails about ? I see mentions of a kind of roadmap
 for geronimo, and some other informations about asynchweb which is
 totally a different beast... I think some context has been added, and
 not through mails...
 
 Any heads up ?
 
 
 Trustin Lee wrote:
 What's important is actually not where to host it or whether to fork
 or not - Jeff, the main contributor of the project, and the MINA team
 already decided to host it under the MINA trunk and Jeff wants to keep
 working on here with AHC.  So I think Jeff will take care of the
 Geronimo discussion properly.  I also think it's OK even if they do
 whatever they want to do with G sandbox as long as Jeff will keep
 working here, which is much more reasonable than hosting it under
 HttpComponent project or Geronimo trunk.  Jeff should explain this to
 the Geronimo team and I believe he already did very enough as a person
 who wants to host it here.

 Trustin

 On Jan 10, 2008 8:27 AM, Alex Karasulu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 I think you missed it again.  See here:


 On Jan 9, 2008 4:10 PM, Matt Hogstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 If it is better and easier than http-client are they interested in
 it?  Seems like a logical fit.  That said, I think Genender boy
 
 wanted

 to melt some metal when he started this work.  If it remains without
 
 a

 home I'd put it in components and let folks pick it up if they are
 interested.
 
 They don't want to fork it at Geronimo but would prefer it to find a
 home
 that is more fitting. http-client was mentioned.

 Alex


 On Jan 9, 2008 6:16 PM, Trustin Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Well, I think it's OK for the Geronimo team to fork AHC, and I'd like
 to respect them if Jeff already gave the information that his AHC work
 will be placed under MINA trunk.  They have their release schedule and
 I don't want to let them wait for us.  They will need to migrate to
 the official MINA AHC eventually though.  Jeff could show us better
 road map for this.

 Trustin

 On Jan 10, 2008 7:55 AM, Alex Karasulu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 On Jan 9, 2008 4:57 PM, Trustin Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 AsyncWeb and Jeff's AsyncHttpClient are different projects.  Anyways,
 Jeff is free to modify the trunk, which already contains
 AsyncHttpClient, whenever he wants.
   
 I know that.

 You obviously missed why I posted this information.  The
 AsyncHttpClient
 code Jeff worked on in his Geronimo sandbox is about to get forked
 over
 
 to
  
 some other project.  The Geronimo folks are looking for a home for
 it. I
 wanted people in general to know that Jeff is here working on that
 
 stuff.
  
 Makes sense?
 
 Yep, thanks for the information.


 On Jan 10, 2008 7:02 AM, Jeff Genender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 Trustin Lee wrote:

 He made some big changes in
 Geronimo sandbox before I made some big changes in his original
 contribution, and that's why it's taking some time.  So.. Jeff will
 migrate the code to the trunk eventually I guess.
   
 Yes I will ;-) I am swamped at the moment...but I will ;-)

 On Jan 10, 2008 6:16 AM, Alex Karasulu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 I think Jeff started working on some of it over at MINA btw.  Excuse
 
 the
  
 cross post.

 Alex

 On Jan 9, 2008 4:10 PM, Matt Hogstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 If it is better and easier than http-client are they interested in
 it?  Seems like a logical fit.  That said, I think Genender boy
   
 wanted
  
 to melt some metal when he started this work.  If it remains
   
 without a
  
 home I'd put it in components and let folks pick it up if they are
 interested.

 On Jan 9, 2008, at 9:55 AM, Kevan Miller wrote:

  
 On Jan 8, 2008, at 9:59 AM, Donald Woods wrote:


 #3 is okay with me.  Was just thinking that #2 (plugin) would
   
 allow
  
 us to expose it on our plugin website and allow other users to
   
 just
  
 place a dependency on it in their plugins
   
 Oops. Got distracted and forgot to reply...

 I was thinking that AHC functionality could be released under
 components (and thus easier to consume by other projects). We
 
 can
  
 then create a plugin which includes this component. So, really a
 combination of 2 and 3.

 --kevan



 -Donald

 Kevan Miller wrote:
  
 On Jan 5, 2008, 

Re: [DISCUSS] Time to move AsyncHttpClient out of Sandbox

2008-01-09 Thread Emmanuel Lecharny

Jeff Genender wrote:

Ugg...yeah...we need to get that team looking at our stuff.  The problem
is that the large delta is where the problem is going to be.  I would
like to see the delta be made and brought over here and have them work
over here.

Jeff
  
As there is nothing like what you have written in MINA currently, your 
options are :

- move it from geronimo sandbox to some Mina sandbox
- create a sub-project in Mina

Obvioulsy, #1 is not a valid option ;)

Am I wrong ?

/Snip

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Re: [DISCUSS] Time to move AsyncHttpClient out of Sandbox

2008-01-09 Thread Jeff Genender
Not wrong at all.  Its a little more complicated than that though :/

Let me get some of those guys to chime in.

Jeff

Emmanuel Lecharny wrote:
 Jeff Genender wrote:
 Ugg...yeah...we need to get that team looking at our stuff.  The problem
 is that the large delta is where the problem is going to be.  I would
 like to see the delta be made and brought over here and have them work
 over here.

 Jeff
   
 As there is nothing like what you have written in MINA currently, your
 options are :
 - move it from geronimo sandbox to some Mina sandbox
 - create a sub-project in Mina
 
 Obvioulsy, #1 is not a valid option ;)
 
 Am I wrong ?
 
 /Snip
 


Re: [DISCUSS] Time to move AsyncHttpClient out of Sandbox

2008-01-09 Thread Trustin Lee
Thanks Jeff for taking care of this!  I know it's a complicated task
for anyone, but I believe you are the only one who can take care of
this this time.  We don't need to rush but can move step by step.  :-)

Cheers,
Trustin

On Jan 10, 2008 9:18 AM, Jeff Genender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Not wrong at all.  Its a little more complicated than that though :/

 Let me get some of those guys to chime in.

 Jeff


 Emmanuel Lecharny wrote:
  Jeff Genender wrote:
  Ugg...yeah...we need to get that team looking at our stuff.  The problem
  is that the large delta is where the problem is going to be.  I would
  like to see the delta be made and brought over here and have them work
  over here.
 
  Jeff
 
  As there is nothing like what you have written in MINA currently, your
  options are :
  - move it from geronimo sandbox to some Mina sandbox
  - create a sub-project in Mina
 
  Obvioulsy, #1 is not a valid option ;)
 
  Am I wrong ?
 
  /Snip
 




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Re: [DISCUSS] Time to move AsyncHttpClient out of Sandbox

2008-01-09 Thread Trustin Lee
On Jan 10, 2008 9:00 AM, Emmanuel Lecharny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey,

 Alex just posted some X-post information to MINA and Geronimo, just to
 inform MINA that Geronimo want to get Jeff's work out from Sandbox.

 What are all the next mails about ? I see mentions of a kind of roadmap
 for geronimo, and some other informations about asynchweb which is
 totally a different beast... I think some context has been added, and
 not through mails...

 Any heads up ?

From the MINA's standpoint, AHC is already in the trunk, so I
misunderstood 'sandbox' in the subject line is incorrect, although
it's actually correct from the Geronimo's standpoint because AHC also
exists in the G sandbox.  So I thought Alex was referring to AsyncWeb,
which is in our sandbox.  I misunderstood here.

And... Geronimo road map... I meant that it's up to Geronimo team to
move their sandbox content to their trunk meanwhile if AHC is a
required component which needs release according to their road map.
It doesn't matter for me anyway because Jeff will move the stuff there
here sooner or later.

I am sorry if there was some confusion.  :)

Trustin
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Re: [DISCUSS] Time to move AsyncHttpClient out of Sandbox

2008-01-09 Thread Emmanuel Lecharny

Trustin Lee wrote:

I am sorry if there was some confusion.  :)
  

Confusion does not matter as soon as it has been clarified :)

Thanks Trustin !

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