Re: [native-lang] Native-Lang Confederation meeting in preparation of OOoCon 2008

2008-09-04 Thread charles-h.schulz
Hello,


> Message du 03/09/08 21:26
> De : "Louis Suarez-Potts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> A : dev@native-lang.openoffice.org
> Copie à : 
> Objet : Re: [native-lang] Native-Lang Confederation meeting in preparation of 
> OOoCon 2008
>
> 
> 
> 
> On 2008-07-29, at 18:46 , Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> 
> > (Please reply to dev@native-lang.openoffice.org if possible).
> >
> > The PLIO Association (Italian OpenOffice.org Native-Lang Project)
> > is pleased to invite everyone involved in the Native-Lang  
> > Confederation
> > to join the meeting that will be held in Bolzano/Bozen (Italy) on
> > October 3rd, 2008.
> 
> Much to my disgust and disappointment, I cannot make this, after all.  
> ARGH. I did try rather hard but Bolzano is not exactly in the middle  
> of a big busy airport; it's in the middle of strikingly beautiful Alps.
> 
> My apologies to the community. But let's see if we can possibly  
> arrange a video call or something like that
> 

I will be able to come. My big point is to find a train from Paris. I'm working 
on it, but you can mark me 
confirmed. Hope to see as many people as possible in Bolzano!

Best,
Charles.

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Re: [native-lang] Native-Lang Confederation meeting in preparation of OOoCon 2008

2008-09-03 Thread Louis Suarez-Potts



On 2008-07-29, at 18:46 , Andrea Pescetti wrote:


(Please reply to dev@native-lang.openoffice.org if possible).

The PLIO Association (Italian OpenOffice.org Native-Lang Project)
is pleased to invite everyone involved in the Native-Lang  
Confederation

to join the meeting that will be held in Bolzano/Bozen (Italy) on
October 3rd, 2008.


Much to my disgust and disappointment, I cannot make this, after all.  
ARGH. I did try rather hard but Bolzano is not exactly in the middle  
of a big busy airport; it's in the middle of strikingly beautiful Alps.


My apologies to the community. But let's see if we can possibly  
arrange a video call or something like that


Regrets,

louis

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Re: [native-lang] Native-Lang Confederation meeting in preparation of OOoCon 2008

2008-08-28 Thread Charles-H. Schulz


Hello Clayton,

Le 28 août 08 à 14:37, ccornell - OpenOffice.org a écrit :



On 08/19/08 12:51, ccornell - OpenOffice.org wrote:
Specific topics to be discussed during the meeting will be decided  
on

the native-lang mailing list. At the moment, ideas include:
localization, QA, documentation, marketing, all from the point of  
view

of Native-Lang projects. Other proposals are welcome.
What aspects of the N.L. Documentation are people thinking about  
covering?
I am considering attending this meeting, but want to be sure that I  
can contribute something helpful before I go and book anything.


Has any more thought or planning gone into what general aspects of  
OOo documentation (from the NL point of view) will be covered at  
this meeting?


I won't be at this meeting and therefore will not put forth any agenda  
for discussion; but it would obviously be a good idea.
There is a recurring question about localized documentation: - the  
actual localization/translation, homogeneity of the documentation  
sets, etc.

But you should feel free to put forth your questions.

best,
Charles.

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Re: [native-lang] Native-Lang Confederation meeting in preparation of OOoCon 2008

2008-08-28 Thread ccornell - OpenOffice.org

On 08/19/08 12:51, ccornell - OpenOffice.org wrote:

Specific topics to be discussed during the meeting will be decided on
the native-lang mailing list. At the moment, ideas include:
localization, QA, documentation, marketing, all from the point of view
of Native-Lang projects. Other proposals are welcome.


What aspects of the N.L. Documentation are people thinking about covering?

I am considering attending this meeting, but want to be sure that I can 
contribute something helpful before I go and book anything.


Has any more thought or planning gone into what general aspects of OOo 
documentation (from the NL point of view) will be covered at this meeting?


C.
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Re: [native-lang] Native-Lang Confederation meeting in preparation of OOoCon 2008

2008-08-21 Thread Louis Suarez-Potts


On 2008-08-21, at 16:25 , sophie wrote:


Louis Suarez-Potts wrote:

Hi
First, thanks, Davide and Andreas for the meeting and for arranging  
it...


It's unfortunate that the date is in fact 3 October--it coincides, as
Charles pointed out, with other events, and not just the BrOffice  
event,
but also Open Source Days, in Copenhagen. As I'm already attending  
the
Danish event, I cannot (alas) attend this one, too. And I'm, as  
they say
in California, totally bummed. (That said, I'll try to see if I can  
bend

time and space to accommodate my desires.)


I don't want to seems hard, but for me a community meeting,  
organized by

the community for the community and in the context of serving a better
organization/communication/process in the NLC is something that has  
some

priority.


Alas, both are community events, Sophie, and both were initially  
proposed by community members. The Copenhagen event is hardly a Sun  
thing and is receiving no special attention by Sun. Actually, the  
primary reason for my strong interest in it has to do with the  
essentially fragmented nature of the Nordic communities, and my hope  
that by coordinating activity we can get more done there. (A similar  
situation exists in India, of course, and elsewhere.)







But perhaps we can have a long distance discussion? Certainly, some  
of

the issues we'll be discussing in Copenhagen are relevant. One of the
goals--the primary goal, really--I have for that event, is to  
synthesize
and focus Nordic OOo and ODF activity. I don't think the Nordic  
region

is unique.


It may be not unique, but I think that the localization process, the  
QA

process, the marketing process, the documentation as Clayton ask about
it is of concern and this is not all.


Oh, I quite agree.



We also have to discuss about the CC and the overall being of the
community. The NLC is a strong part of the community and needs to  
share

more than local focus point.
This meeting is important because all of us would like to be in  
Beijing,
not to be there but to meet each others, but several of us won't be  
able
to attend. We are working hard for this community and we only have  
once
a year to share our concerns, ambitions, visions for the community.  
This
is for me the first objective to be respected, and no other event  
would

have the prime time.

Hope you understand my meanings.


I do: given a choice, I should make this meeting in Italy. I'll  
certainly try.


Kind regards
Sophie


Ciao,
Louis





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Re: [native-lang] Native-Lang Confederation meeting in preparation of OOoCon 2008

2008-08-21 Thread sophie
Louis Suarez-Potts wrote:
> Hi
> First, thanks, Davide and Andreas for the meeting and for arranging it...
> 
> It's unfortunate that the date is in fact 3 October--it coincides, as
> Charles pointed out, with other events, and not just the BrOffice event,
> but also Open Source Days, in Copenhagen. As I'm already attending the
> Danish event, I cannot (alas) attend this one, too. And I'm, as they say
> in California, totally bummed. (That said, I'll try to see if I can bend
> time and space to accommodate my desires.)

I don't want to seems hard, but for me a community meeting, organized by
the community for the community and in the context of serving a better
organization/communication/process in the NLC is something that has some
priority.
> 
> But perhaps we can have a long distance discussion? Certainly, some of
> the issues we'll be discussing in Copenhagen are relevant. One of the
> goals--the primary goal, really--I have for that event, is to synthesize
> and focus Nordic OOo and ODF activity. I don't think the Nordic region
> is unique.

It may be not unique, but I think that the localization process, the QA
process, the marketing process, the documentation as Clayton ask about
it is of concern and this is not all.
We also have to discuss about the CC and the overall being of the
community. The NLC is a strong part of the community and needs to share
more than local focus point.
This meeting is important because all of us would like to be in Beijing,
not to be there but to meet each others, but several of us won't be able
to attend. We are working hard for this community and we only have once
a year to share our concerns, ambitions, visions for the community. This
is for me the first objective to be respected, and no other event would
have the prime time.

Hope you understand my meanings.
Kind regards
Sophie


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Re: [native-lang] Native-Lang Confederation meeting in preparation of OOoCon 2008

2008-08-21 Thread Louis Suarez-Potts

Hi
First, thanks, Davide and Andreas for the meeting and for arranging  
it...


It's unfortunate that the date is in fact 3 October--it coincides, as  
Charles pointed out, with other events, and not just the BrOffice  
event, but also Open Source Days, in Copenhagen. As I'm already  
attending the Danish event, I cannot (alas) attend this one, too. And  
I'm, as they say in California, totally bummed. (That said, I'll try  
to see if I can bend time and space to accommodate my desires.)


But perhaps we can have a long distance discussion? Certainly, some of  
the issues we'll be discussing in Copenhagen are relevant. One of the  
goals--the primary goal, really--I have for that event, is to  
synthesize and focus Nordic OOo and ODF activity. I don't think the  
Nordic region is unique.




On 2008-08-19, at 06:51 , ccornell - OpenOffice.org wrote:


Specific topics to be discussed during the meeting will be decided on
the native-lang mailing list. At the moment, ideas include:
localization, QA, documentation, marketing, all from the point of  
view

of Native-Lang projects. Other proposals are welcome.


What aspects of the N.L. Documentation are people thinking about  
covering?


I am considering attending this meeting, but want to be sure that I  
can contribute something helpful before I go and book anything.


C.
--


best
Louis


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Re: [native-lang] Native-Lang Confederation meeting in preparation of OOoCon 2008

2008-08-19 Thread ccornell - OpenOffice.org

Specific topics to be discussed during the meeting will be decided on
the native-lang mailing list. At the moment, ideas include:
localization, QA, documentation, marketing, all from the point of view
of Native-Lang projects. Other proposals are welcome.


What aspects of the N.L. Documentation are people thinking about covering?

I am considering attending this meeting, but want to be sure that I can 
contribute something helpful before I go and book anything.


C.
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[native-lang] Re: [project leads] Re: [native-lang] Native-Lang Confederation meeting in preparation of OOoCon 2008

2008-08-05 Thread charles-h.schulz
Hello Davide,

It does not really depend on me. I have put Claudio in copy. Claudio, there 
will be a NLC physical meeting in Italy the very same day of the 3rd October of 
the BrOffice conference. See Davide's proposal below and feel free to answer.

Thank you,

Charles.
> Message du 05/08/08 12:42
> De : "Davide Dozza"
> A : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Copie à : dev@native-lang.openoffice.org
> Objet : Re: [project leads] Re: [native-lang] Native-Lang Confederation 
> meeting in preparation of OOoCon 2008
>
>
> Charles,
>
> Charles-H. Schulz ha scritto:
> >
> > Andrea,
> >
> > Let me bring my support to this initiative. It is really a great idea!
> > May I however strongly advise to have it anytime in October but on the
> > 3? Our good friends from BrOffice host a videoconference event on that
> > day...
>
> what a great news! We can arrange a videoconference connection with
> BrOffice from Bolzano and so that people at the meeting can participate
> to the BrOffice event. Moreover we can exploit the opportunity for
> involving also Br community in the meeting
>
> If necessary we can move our meeting some hours ahead or forward in
> order to satisfied BrOffice requirements. And, if necessary again, we
> can go longer with meeting on Suturday morning.
>
> What do you think about?
>
> Davide
>
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Charles.
> > Le 30 juil. 08 à 00:46, Andrea Pescetti a écrit :
> >
> >>
> >> (Please reply to dev@native-lang.openoffice.org if possible).
> >>
> >> The PLIO Association (Italian OpenOffice.org Native-Lang Project)
> >> is pleased to invite everyone involved in the Native-Lang Confederation
> >> to join the meeting that will be held in Bolzano/Bozen (Italy) on
> >> October 3rd, 2008.
> >>
> >> Goal of the meeting is to prepare the discussion topics that will be
> >> brought to Beijing: some European Native-Lang project members won't be
> >> able to take the great opportunity offered by OOoCon 2008 and this way
> >> they can delegate someone to bring their opinions to Beijing.
> >> Native-Lang issues will also be discussed in greater detail than it is
> >> usually possible during OOoCon. Attendance to the meeting will be free.
> >>
> >> Specific topics to be discussed during the meeting will be decided on
> >> the native-lang mailing list. At the moment, ideas include:
> >> localization, QA, documentation, marketing, all from the point of view
> >> of Native-Lang projects. Other proposals are welcome.
> >>
> >> Bolzano (Bozen in German) is the capital city of South Tyrol, the German
> >> speaking region in northern Italy. Thanks to its excellent services and
> >> a wonderful landscape, it is constantly ranked among the first cities
> >> when it comes to quality of life. Bolzano hosts major free software
> >> deployments: more than 2500 computers in local schools were recently
> >> upgraded to GNU/Linux and OpenOffice.org, and OpenOffice.org has been
> >> installed since 2005 on all computers in the local institutions.
> >>
> >> Bolzano is well-connected, being a major hub of the railway system in
> >> Central Alps. It also has a small airport (BZO) with scheduled flights
> >> provided by Air Alps to Rome and Hannover; other nearby airports are
> >> Verona and Venice, and PLIO might organize transfer or pick-up services
> >> from those airports to Bolzano. Highway A22 (Autostrada del Brennero,
> >> Brennerautobahn) leads to Bolzano from South and North: Bolzano is about
> >> 280 km from Munich, Venice and Milan. The city and its metropolitan area
> >> are well developed for tourism and you can find all kinds of
> >> accommodation with a price range from 30 to 96 EUR for a single room per
> >> night.
> >>
> >> Please see http://www.plio.it/ooonlm08 for more information.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>  Davide Dozza and Andrea Pescetti - Italian N-L Project Leads.
> >>



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Re: [native-lang] Native-Lang Confederation meeting in preparation of OOoCon 2008

2008-08-05 Thread Davide Dozza

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[...]

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|
| Very great idea. Is it warm in October in Bolzano?
| ;)

It depends. All it's relative. From the italian people point of view
it's not very warm. The avarage temp it's about 12-13 °C with a max of
20°C and a min of 6°C.

Bolzano is located inside an Alps valley so the landscape it's very
nice. Speaking of Italy it's useless to say that food and wine are very
very good ;-)

And for beer lovers I'd like to remember Bolzano is far less than 300 km
from Munich and they speak german as second language (the most as
first :-D )

Ciao

Davide
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Re: [native-lang] Native-Lang Confederation meeting in preparation of OOoCon 2008

2008-07-30 Thread Ain Vagula
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 1:46 AM, Andrea Pescetti
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> (Please reply to dev@native-lang.openoffice.org if possible).
>
> The PLIO Association (Italian OpenOffice.org Native-Lang Project)
> is pleased to invite everyone involved in the Native-Lang Confederation
> to join the meeting that will be held in Bolzano/Bozen (Italy) on
> October 3rd, 2008.
>
> Goal of the meeting is to prepare the discussion topics that will be
> brought to Beijing: some European Native-Lang project members won't be
> able to take the great opportunity offered by OOoCon 2008 and this way
> they can delegate someone to bring their opinions to Beijing.
> Native-Lang issues will also be discussed in greater detail than it is
> usually possible during OOoCon. Attendance to the meeting will be free.
>
> Specific topics to be discussed during the meeting will be decided on
> the native-lang mailing list. At the moment, ideas include:
> localization, QA, documentation, marketing, all from the point of view
> of Native-Lang projects. Other proposals are welcome.
>
> Bolzano (Bozen in German) is the capital city of South Tyrol, the German
> speaking region in northern Italy. Thanks to its excellent services and
> a wonderful landscape, it is constantly ranked among the first cities
> when it comes to quality of life. Bolzano hosts major free software
> deployments: more than 2500 computers in local schools were recently
> upgraded to GNU/Linux and OpenOffice.org, and OpenOffice.org has been
> installed since 2005 on all computers in the local institutions.
>
> Bolzano is well-connected, being a major hub of the railway system in
> Central Alps. It also has a small airport (BZO) with scheduled flights
> provided by Air Alps to Rome and Hannover; other nearby airports are
> Verona and Venice, and PLIO might organize transfer or pick-up services
> from those airports to Bolzano. Highway A22 (Autostrada del Brennero,
> Brennerautobahn) leads to Bolzano from South and North: Bolzano is about
> 280 km from Munich, Venice and Milan. The city and its metropolitan area
> are well developed for tourism and you can find all kinds of
> accommodation with a price range from 30 to 96 EUR for a single room per
> night.
>
> Please see http://www.plio.it/ooonlm08 for more information.
>

Very great idea. Is it warm in October in Bolzano?
;)

ain

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Re: [native-lang] Native-Lang Confederation meeting in preparation of OOoCon 2008

2008-07-30 Thread Peter Junge

Andrea,

on the behalf of the Beijing organizational team, I would like to thank 
you for this great initiative.


I also want to take the opportunity here and ask everyone, who is 
planning to attend the OOoCon in Beijing to take part in the OOoCon 
pre-registration survey now. Please refer:

http://surveytest.services.openoffice.org/surveys/index.php?sid=74227&lang=en

Next week we will probably start the 'real' registration process. Please 
take five minutes time and register yourself as early as possible for 
two good reasons:


Firstly, we will try to get in touch with everyone ASAP in order to 
offer help for the visa process.

Some important information we provide at:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OOoCon_2008_Visa_Procedures

Secondly, we desperately need some figures about the number of attendees 
we can expect. We are in touch with some airlines to negotiate 
discounted prices on flight tickets for OOoCon attendees. The final 
result of our effort is strongly depending on the number of travelers we 
can confirm with the airline. Hence, it will likely save *your* money.


Best regards from Beijing,
Peter


Andrea Pescetti wrote:

(Please reply to dev@native-lang.openoffice.org if possible).

The PLIO Association (Italian OpenOffice.org Native-Lang Project)
is pleased to invite everyone involved in the Native-Lang Confederation
to join the meeting that will be held in Bolzano/Bozen (Italy) on
October 3rd, 2008.

Goal of the meeting is to prepare the discussion topics that will be
brought to Beijing: some European Native-Lang project members won't be
able to take the great opportunity offered by OOoCon 2008 and this way
they can delegate someone to bring their opinions to Beijing.
Native-Lang issues will also be discussed in greater detail than it is
usually possible during OOoCon. Attendance to the meeting will be free.

Specific topics to be discussed during the meeting will be decided on
the native-lang mailing list. At the moment, ideas include:
localization, QA, documentation, marketing, all from the point of view
of Native-Lang projects. Other proposals are welcome.

Bolzano (Bozen in German) is the capital city of South Tyrol, the German
speaking region in northern Italy. Thanks to its excellent services and
a wonderful landscape, it is constantly ranked among the first cities
when it comes to quality of life. Bolzano hosts major free software
deployments: more than 2500 computers in local schools were recently
upgraded to GNU/Linux and OpenOffice.org, and OpenOffice.org has been
installed since 2005 on all computers in the local institutions.

Bolzano is well-connected, being a major hub of the railway system in
Central Alps. It also has a small airport (BZO) with scheduled flights
provided by Air Alps to Rome and Hannover; other nearby airports are
Verona and Venice, and PLIO might organize transfer or pick-up services
from those airports to Bolzano. Highway A22 (Autostrada del Brennero,
Brennerautobahn) leads to Bolzano from South and North: Bolzano is about
280 km from Munich, Venice and Milan. The city and its metropolitan area
are well developed for tourism and you can find all kinds of
accommodation with a price range from 30 to 96 EUR for a single room per
night.

Please see http://www.plio.it/ooonlm08 for more information.

Regards,
  Davide Dozza and Andrea Pescetti - Italian N-L Project Leads.


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I want *YOU* to come to Beijing!

Don't miss the 'Call for Papers':
http://marketing.openoffice.org/ooocon2008/cfp/index.html

Please help us and join the "Pre-Registration" survey:
http://surveytest.services.openoffice.org/surveys/index.php?sid=74227&lang=en

OOoCon website:
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Re: [native-lang] Native-Lang Confederation meeting in preparation of OOoCon 2008

2008-07-30 Thread Charles-H. Schulz


Andrea,

Let me bring my support to this initiative. It is really a great  
idea!  May I however strongly advise to have it anytime in October but  
on the 3? Our good friends from BrOffice host a videoconference event  
on that day...


Cheers,

Charles.
Le 30 juil. 08 à 00:46, Andrea Pescetti a écrit :



(Please reply to dev@native-lang.openoffice.org if possible).

The PLIO Association (Italian OpenOffice.org Native-Lang Project)
is pleased to invite everyone involved in the Native-Lang  
Confederation

to join the meeting that will be held in Bolzano/Bozen (Italy) on
October 3rd, 2008.

Goal of the meeting is to prepare the discussion topics that will be
brought to Beijing: some European Native-Lang project members won't be
able to take the great opportunity offered by OOoCon 2008 and this way
they can delegate someone to bring their opinions to Beijing.
Native-Lang issues will also be discussed in greater detail than it is
usually possible during OOoCon. Attendance to the meeting will be  
free.


Specific topics to be discussed during the meeting will be decided on
the native-lang mailing list. At the moment, ideas include:
localization, QA, documentation, marketing, all from the point of view
of Native-Lang projects. Other proposals are welcome.

Bolzano (Bozen in German) is the capital city of South Tyrol, the  
German
speaking region in northern Italy. Thanks to its excellent services  
and

a wonderful landscape, it is constantly ranked among the first cities
when it comes to quality of life. Bolzano hosts major free software
deployments: more than 2500 computers in local schools were recently
upgraded to GNU/Linux and OpenOffice.org, and OpenOffice.org has been
installed since 2005 on all computers in the local institutions.

Bolzano is well-connected, being a major hub of the railway system in
Central Alps. It also has a small airport (BZO) with scheduled flights
provided by Air Alps to Rome and Hannover; other nearby airports are
Verona and Venice, and PLIO might organize transfer or pick-up  
services

from those airports to Bolzano. Highway A22 (Autostrada del Brennero,
Brennerautobahn) leads to Bolzano from South and North: Bolzano is  
about
280 km from Munich, Venice and Milan. The city and its metropolitan  
area

are well developed for tourism and you can find all kinds of
accommodation with a price range from 30 to 96 EUR for a single room  
per

night.

Please see http://www.plio.it/ooonlm08 for more information.

Regards,
 Davide Dozza and Andrea Pescetti - Italian N-L Project Leads.


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