AW: Spring Support

2020-06-11 Thread Christian Lenz
Hey,

no, not you exeggerated it, I exeggerated it 😊. I just wanted to ask what 
exactly what you mean and Nothing more, If you meant the last thing, which was 
exeggerated by me, I aggree with you. That’s all.


Cheers

Chris 

Von: Matthias Bläsing
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. Juni 2020 21:57
An: dev@netbeans.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Spring Support

Hi,

Am Donnerstag, den 11.06.2020, 21:52 +0200 schrieb Christian Lenz:
> ➢ (javascript land has the tendency to be unstable
> What exactly do you mean with unstable? Unstable = unusable or
> unstable like every week a new Framework/lib (exaggerated)

yeah I exaggerated. Sorry, I did not want to discuss the point and so
will not go deeper into why I think that.

Greetings

Matthias


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Re: Spring Support

2020-06-11 Thread Matthias Bläsing
Hi,

Am Donnerstag, den 11.06.2020, 21:52 +0200 schrieb Christian Lenz:
> ➢ (javascript land has the tendency to be unstable
> What exactly do you mean with unstable? Unstable = unusable or
> unstable like every week a new Framework/lib (exaggerated)

yeah I exaggerated. Sorry, I did not want to discuss the point and so
will not go deeper into why I think that.

Greetings

Matthias


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AW: Spring Support

2020-06-11 Thread Christian Lenz
Hi Matthias,

➢ (javascript land has the tendency to be unstable
What exactly do you mean with unstable? Unstable = unusable or unstable like 
every week a new Framework/lib (exaggerated)


Cheers

Chris

Von: Matthias Bläsing
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. Juni 2020 21:24
An: dev@netbeans.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Spring Support

Hi,

Am Mittwoch, den 10.06.2020, 10:58 +0600 schrieb Brain Rebooting:
> Can we get a React Native plugin? The last thing we need maybe. All know
> that it's hugely popular. Though Netbeans already support Android apps
> development, we need another product that is hugely popular and capable of
> cross platform mobile apps development. Is there any kind hearted people
> who can do this for Netbeans?

before we integrate a new plugin or before you ask for one, two
questions must be answered:

a) does the plugin pull its weight, i.e. is there enough interest and
usage out there that it is worth moving to the core and is it
maintainable (javascript land has the tendency to be unstable) and
b) who will work on it and keep it running

If not both answers can be answered satisfactory, new additions should
be looked at critical.

Greetings

Matthias

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Re: Spring Support

2020-06-11 Thread Matthias Bläsing
Hi,

Am Mittwoch, den 10.06.2020, 10:58 +0600 schrieb Brain Rebooting:
> Can we get a React Native plugin? The last thing we need maybe. All know
> that it's hugely popular. Though Netbeans already support Android apps
> development, we need another product that is hugely popular and capable of
> cross platform mobile apps development. Is there any kind hearted people
> who can do this for Netbeans?

before we integrate a new plugin or before you ask for one, two
questions must be answered:

a) does the plugin pull its weight, i.e. is there enough interest and
usage out there that it is worth moving to the core and is it
maintainable (javascript land has the tendency to be unstable) and
b) who will work on it and keep it running

If not both answers can be answered satisfactory, new additions should
be looked at critical.

Greetings

Matthias

PS: Post with real name feel better and real name is a requirement for
delevopment in Apache NetBeans.


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Re: Spring Support

2020-06-10 Thread Neil C Smith
On Wed, 10 Jun 2020 at 14:09, Geertjan Wielenga  wrote:
> Well, now that we have a successful and proven quarterly release cycle...
> maybe that could make it more attractive for great plugins such as yours to
> be integrated directly into Apache NetBeans, out of the box.

I'm inclined to agree with Alex that not every open-source plugin can
or should become part of NetBeans out of the box.

The more that's added to the core IDE, the more needs to be checked
and maintained for each release.

There's also a middle ground between third-party plugins and the IDE,
where we might consider plugins donated and developed at ASF in
separate repos and still under their own release cycles?

Perhaps the thing to look at in the IDE would be improving the plugin
experience and signposting, eg. on the start page?

Best wishes,

Neil

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Re: Spring Support

2020-06-10 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 6/9/20 11:58 PM, Brain Rebooting wrote:
> Can we get a React Native plugin? The last thing we need maybe. All know
> that it's hugely popular. Though Netbeans already support Android apps
> development,

It does?

-- 
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"After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."


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Re: Spring Support

2020-06-10 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Hi Alex,

Well, now that we have a successful and proven quarterly release cycle...
maybe that could make it more attractive for great plugins such as yours to
be integrated directly into Apache NetBeans, out of the box.

It is a great compliment to you that people are asking for this -- and this
question used to be about WildFly. :-)

Gj

On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 3:01 PM Alessandro  wrote:

> Hi all,
>   in general I don't think that now that NetBeans is an open source project
> all the existing open source plugins should be integrated in it. Spring
> framework and Spring Boot support in Eclipse, for example, is provided via
> plugins (
>
> https://marketplace.eclipse.org/content/spring-tools-4-aka-spring-tool-suite-4
> ).
> Having Spring support as a plugin means it is available for more than one
> NetBeans version (I currently compile against NetBeans 8.2 API to encompass
> as many versions as possible).
>
> If anyone would like to contribute to the plugin feel free to do so at
> https://github.com/AlexFalappa/nb-springboot. As far as feature requests
> go, please consider that I develop the plugin in my free time.
>
> I admit I haven't been very active recently but if I will find myself
> unable to work on the plugin anymore I will certainly consider contributing
> it to the NetBeans project as a mean of letting others continue developing
> it.
>
> Regards
> *--*
> *Alex Falappa*
>
>
> Il giorno mer 10 giu 2020 alle ore 05:22 Laszlo Kishalmi <
> laszlo.kisha...@gmail.com> ha scritto:
>
> > Well, it depends on the plugin author Alex. He is an active member of
> > the community.
> >
> > If he thinks it fits, then I think there would be no objection to
> > integrate his plugins into NetBeans mainline.
> >
> > Alex?
> >
> > On 6/9/20 4:20 PM, Christopher Gusenbauer wrote:
> > > Hi! Since you already integrated the Dark LAF, maybe you could
> integrate
> > > another great user project as well?
> > > http://plugins.netbeans.org/plugin/67888/nb-springboot
> > > IntelliJ and Eclipse both offer better support for Spring and Netbeans
> > for
> > > me personally has always been cooler, but the lack of out of the box
> > Spring
> > > really hurts since its so widely used
> > >
> >
>


Re: Spring Support

2020-06-10 Thread Alessandro
Hi all,
  in general I don't think that now that NetBeans is an open source project
all the existing open source plugins should be integrated in it. Spring
framework and Spring Boot support in Eclipse, for example, is provided via
plugins (
https://marketplace.eclipse.org/content/spring-tools-4-aka-spring-tool-suite-4).
Having Spring support as a plugin means it is available for more than one
NetBeans version (I currently compile against NetBeans 8.2 API to encompass
as many versions as possible).

If anyone would like to contribute to the plugin feel free to do so at
https://github.com/AlexFalappa/nb-springboot. As far as feature requests
go, please consider that I develop the plugin in my free time.

I admit I haven't been very active recently but if I will find myself
unable to work on the plugin anymore I will certainly consider contributing
it to the NetBeans project as a mean of letting others continue developing
it.

Regards
*--*
*Alex Falappa*


Il giorno mer 10 giu 2020 alle ore 05:22 Laszlo Kishalmi <
laszlo.kisha...@gmail.com> ha scritto:

> Well, it depends on the plugin author Alex. He is an active member of
> the community.
>
> If he thinks it fits, then I think there would be no objection to
> integrate his plugins into NetBeans mainline.
>
> Alex?
>
> On 6/9/20 4:20 PM, Christopher Gusenbauer wrote:
> > Hi! Since you already integrated the Dark LAF, maybe you could integrate
> > another great user project as well?
> > http://plugins.netbeans.org/plugin/67888/nb-springboot
> > IntelliJ and Eclipse both offer better support for Spring and Netbeans
> for
> > me personally has always been cooler, but the lack of out of the box
> Spring
> > really hurts since its so widely used
> >
>


Re: Spring Support

2020-06-09 Thread antonio

Hi all,

Well, this open source thing is about contributing, right?

IMHO if Christopher has detected a missing feature "that really hurts" 
then he can of course start contributing to Alex's repository. And of 
course we'll be happy to answer any NetBeans related questions he may 
have while doing so.


Whether Alex wants to port, upgrade, sell, donate or delete the plugin 
is something Alex should decide, if he wants to, whenever he wants to :-).


I think we just can make one request to Alex: being able to meet and 
have one or two beers(*) together sometime in the future!


Kind regards,
Antonio

(*)
Of course anybody can increase the number of beers. Two is the maximum 
for me before I start forgetting things.


El 10/6/20 a las 5:22, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:
Well, it depends on the plugin author Alex. He is an active member of 
the community.


If he thinks it fits, then I think there would be no objection to 
integrate his plugins into NetBeans mainline.


Alex?

On 6/9/20 4:20 PM, Christopher Gusenbauer wrote:

Hi! Since you already integrated the Dark LAF, maybe you could integrate
another great user project as well?
http://plugins.netbeans.org/plugin/67888/nb-springboot
IntelliJ and Eclipse both offer better support for Spring and Netbeans 
for
me personally has always been cooler, but the lack of out of the box 
Spring

really hurts since its so widely used



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Re: Spring Support

2020-06-09 Thread Brain Rebooting
Can we get a React Native plugin? The last thing we need maybe. All know
that it's hugely popular. Though Netbeans already support Android apps
development, we need another product that is hugely popular and capable of
cross platform mobile apps development. Is there any kind hearted people
who can do this for Netbeans?



On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 9:22 AM Laszlo Kishalmi 
wrote:

> Well, it depends on the plugin author Alex. He is an active member of
> the community.
>
> If he thinks it fits, then I think there would be no objection to
> integrate his plugins into NetBeans mainline.
>
> Alex?
>
> On 6/9/20 4:20 PM, Christopher Gusenbauer wrote:
> > Hi! Since you already integrated the Dark LAF, maybe you could integrate
> > another great user project as well?
> > http://plugins.netbeans.org/plugin/67888/nb-springboot
> > IntelliJ and Eclipse both offer better support for Spring and Netbeans
> for
> > me personally has always been cooler, but the lack of out of the box
> Spring
> > really hurts since its so widely used
> >
>
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Re: Spring Support

2020-06-09 Thread Laszlo Kishalmi
Well, it depends on the plugin author Alex. He is an active member of 
the community.


If he thinks it fits, then I think there would be no objection to 
integrate his plugins into NetBeans mainline.


Alex?

On 6/9/20 4:20 PM, Christopher Gusenbauer wrote:

Hi! Since you already integrated the Dark LAF, maybe you could integrate
another great user project as well?
http://plugins.netbeans.org/plugin/67888/nb-springboot
IntelliJ and Eclipse both offer better support for Spring and Netbeans for
me personally has always been cooler, but the lack of out of the box Spring
really hurts since its so widely used



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Spring Support

2020-06-09 Thread Christopher Gusenbauer
Hi! Since you already integrated the Dark LAF, maybe you could integrate
another great user project as well?
http://plugins.netbeans.org/plugin/67888/nb-springboot
IntelliJ and Eclipse both offer better support for Spring and Netbeans for
me personally has always been cooler, but the lack of out of the box Spring
really hurts since its so widely used


Re: Spring Support

2020-06-09 Thread Christopher Gusenbauer
And also Spring initializer support

Christopher Gusenbauer  schrieb am Mi., 10.
Juni 2020, 01:20:

> Hi! Since you already integrated the Dark LAF, maybe you could integrate
> another great user project as well?
> http://plugins.netbeans.org/plugin/67888/nb-springboot
> IntelliJ and Eclipse both offer better support for Spring and Netbeans for
> me personally has always been cooler, but the lack of out of the box Spring
> really hurts since its so widely used
>