Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc2

[Junichi Yamamoto]

+1 (binding)

- Checked sums
- Built and run rc2 in the following environments:
Java: 1.8.0_151; Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM 25.151-b12
Runtime: Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment 1.8.0_151-b12
System: Linux version 4.4.0-109-generic running on amd64; UTF-8;

Best regards,
Junichi

2018-01-15 17:34 GMT+09:00 Geertjan Wielenga :
> Hi all,
>
> Please vote on releasing Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc2! If
> this voting passes, another similar voting will be started on
> gene...@incubator.apache.org, and if that passes too, then we can
> release this version.
>
> Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) constitutes all the modules in
> the Apache NetBeans Git repo, which together provide the NetBeans
> Platform (i.e., the underlying application framework), which was
> released as Apache NetBeans 9.0 Alpha (incubating), as well as all the
> modules that provide the Java SE-related features of Apache NetBeans.
> In short, Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) is a full IDE for Java
> SE development.
>
> Build artifacts available here:
>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-beta-rc2/
>
> The specific artifact to be voted on:
>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-beta-rc2/incubating-netbeans-java-9.0-beta-source.zip
>
> Included in the above are the DEPENDENCIES, DISCLAIMER, LICENSE, and
> NOTICE files, as well as a README file with build instructions, which
> are the same as these:
>
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/master/README.md
>
> MD5: d74b2816d4f4f253c04ee6d9bf258dec
> SHA1: 808faea759d76b6d0e27512fbf36e9e22d5d4c65
>
> Apache NetBeans Git Repo tag: 9.0-beta-rc2
>
> Rat report shows no unknown licenses:
>
> https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-release/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/rat-java-temp/nbbuild/build/rat-report.txt
>
> Included as a convenience is a binary, not relevant for the voting
> purposes, but as a convenience only, unzip it and run it and you'll
> see Apache NetBeans:
>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-beta-rc2/incubating-netbeans-java-9.0-beta-bin.zip
>
> New & Noteworthy features of the 9.0 Release:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+9.0+New+and+Noteworthy
>
> Just like the Alpha release, the Beta release is focused specifically
> on IP clearance. With Beta, everything in Apache NetBeans Git complies
> with Apache IP clearance requirements:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
>
> Changes between rc1 and rc2 -- binaries wrongly included in source zip
> have been removed:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-276
>
> How to try out the Beta release:
>
> 1. Download the artifact to be voted on and unzip it.
> 2. Build it using the README provided by the artifact.
> 3. Look in nbbuild/netbeans for the NetBeans installation created by
> the build process.
> 4. Run the NetBeans executable and (if you're running on JDK 8) you'll
> be prompted to install nb-javac, after agreeing to its licensing
> terms, and (if you're running on JDK 9), you'll be able to use javac
> directly from JDK 9 and, optionally, you'll be prompted to install
> nb-javac, after agreeing to its licensing terms.
>
> If the above succeeds, i.e., Apache NetBeans installs and starts up,
> you will have a development environment that complies with Apache IP
> requirements and you should vote +1 in this thread. Bugs you encounter
> are irrelevant for the Beta release, after Beta, when the final
> release is put together, the bug fixing will begin via the NetCAT
> program.
>
> Please try out the package, using the instructions above, and vote!
>
> The vote is open for a minimum of 72 hours or until the necessary
> number of votes (3 binding +1s) is reached.
>
> [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating)
> [ ] 0 I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm okay with the release
> [ ] -1 Do not release this package because...
>
> Please add "(binding)" if your vote is binding, i.e., you are an
> Apache NetBeans committer, i.e., your name is on this page:
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/NetBeansProposal, although note the
> only real binding votes in the incubator are those of the IPMC, i.e.,
> in the next vote thread, after this one passes.
>
> Geertjan
> on behalf of the Apache NetBeans PPMC
>
> -
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>
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> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
>
>
>

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc2

[Javier Ortiz]

Worked smoothly.

   - Imported all Plugins from 8.0.
   - Imported all settings from previous version.
   - After one restart (due to the plugins) everything was exactly like I
   had it on the other install.
   - Besides the Apache Licensing that sticks out like a sore thumb (not in
   a bad way, just catches the eye if you've been seeing the Oracle stuff for
   years) everything was the same.

+1 (non binding)



On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 3:16 PM, Emilian Bold 
wrote:

> +1 (binding)
>
> ​--emi
>
> > Original Message 
> >Subject: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc2
> >Local Time: 15 January 2018 10:34 AM
> >UTC Time: 15 January 2018 08:34
> >From: geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com
> >To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> >
> >Hi all,
> >
> > Please vote on releasing Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc2! If
> > this voting passes, another similar voting will be started on
> >gene...@incubator.apache.org, and if that passes too, then we can
> > release this version.
> >
> > Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) constitutes all the modules in
> > the Apache NetBeans Git repo, which together provide the NetBeans
> > Platform (i.e., the underlying application framework), which was
> > released as Apache NetBeans 9.0 Alpha (incubating), as well as all the
> > modules that provide the Java SE-related features of Apache NetBeans.
> > In short, Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) is a full IDE for Java
> > SE development.
> >
> > Build artifacts available here:
> >
> >https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/
> netbeans/incubating-netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-beta-rc2/
> >
> > The specific artifact to be voted on:
> >
> >https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/
> netbeans/incubating-netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-beta-rc2/
> incubating-netbeans-java-9.0-beta-source.zip
> >
> > Included in the above are the DEPENDENCIES, DISCLAIMER, LICENSE, and
> > NOTICE files, as well as a README file with build instructions, which
> > are the same as these:
> >
> >https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/master/README.md
> >
> > MD5: d74b2816d4f4f253c04ee6d9bf258dec
> > SHA1: 808faea759d76b6d0e27512fbf36e9e22d5d4c65
> >
> > Apache NetBeans Git Repo tag: 9.0-beta-rc2
> >
> > Rat report shows no unknown licenses:
> >
> >https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-
> release/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/rat-java-temp/
> nbbuild/build/rat-report.txt
> >
> > Included as a convenience is a binary, not relevant for the voting
> > purposes, but as a convenience only, unzip it and run it and you'll
> > see Apache NetBeans:
> >
> >https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/
> netbeans/incubating-netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-beta-rc2/
> incubating-netbeans-java-9.0-beta-bin.zip
> >
> > New & Noteworthy features of the 9.0 Release:
> >https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> Apache+NetBeans+9.0+New+and+Noteworthy
> >
> > Just like the Alpha release, the Beta release is focused specifically
> > on IP clearance. With Beta, everything in Apache NetBeans Git complies
> > with Apache IP clearance requirements:
> >
> >https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> >
> > Changes between rc1 and rc2 -- binaries wrongly included in source zip
> > have been removed:
> >https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-276
> >
> > How to try out the Beta release:
> >
> >1. Download the artifact to be voted on and unzip it.
> >2. Build it using the README provided by the artifact.
> >3. Look in nbbuild/netbeans for the NetBeans installation created by
> > the build process.
> >4. Run the NetBeans executable and (if you're running on JDK 8) you'll
> > be prompted to install nb-javac, after agreeing to its licensing
> > terms, and (if you're running on JDK 9), you'll be able to use javac
> > directly from JDK 9 and, optionally, you'll be prompted to install
> > nb-javac, after agreeing to its licensing terms.
> >
> > If the above succeeds, i.e., Apache NetBeans installs and starts up,
> > you will have a development environment that complies with Apache IP
> > requirements and you should vote +1 in this thread. Bugs you encounter
> > are irrelevant for the Beta release, after Beta, when the final
> > release is put together, the bug fixing will begin via the NetCAT
> > program.
> >
> > Please try out the package, using the instructions above, and vote!
> >
> > The vote is open for a minimum of 72 hours or until the necessary
> > number of votes (3 binding +1s) is reached.
> >
> > [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating)
> > [ ] 0 I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm okay with the release
> > [ ] -1 Do not release this package because...
> >
> > Please add "(binding)" if your vote is binding, i.e., you are an
> > Apache NetBeans committer, i.e., your name is on this page:
> >https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/NetBeansProposal, although note the
> > only real binding 

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc2

[Matthias Bläsing]

+1 (binding)

- Checked checksums
- compared to git repository contents
- build with OpenJDK 8 and Oracle JDK 8
- run with OpenJDK 8, Oracle JDK 8, Oracle JDK 9
- meta data files (DEPENDENCIES, DISCLAIMER, LICENSE, NOTICE and
README.md) look fine

Greetings

Matthias

Am Montag, den 15.01.2018, 09:34 +0100 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga:
> Hi all,
> 
> Please vote on releasing Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc2!
> If
> this voting passes, another similar voting will be started on
> gene...@incubator.apache.org, and if that passes too, then we can
> release this version.
> 
> Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) constitutes all the modules in
> the Apache NetBeans Git repo, which together provide the NetBeans
> Platform (i.e., the underlying application framework), which was
> released as Apache NetBeans 9.0 Alpha (incubating), as well as all
> the
> modules that provide the Java SE-related features of Apache NetBeans.
> In short, Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) is a full IDE for
> Java
> SE development.
> 
> Build artifacts available here:
> 
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-
> netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-beta-rc2/
> 
> The specific artifact to be voted on:
> 
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-
> netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-beta-rc2/incubating-netbeans-java-9.0-
> beta-source.zip
> 
> Included in the above are the DEPENDENCIES, DISCLAIMER, LICENSE, and
> NOTICE files, as well as a README file with build instructions, which
> are the same as these:
> 
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/master/README.md
> 
> MD5: d74b2816d4f4f253c04ee6d9bf258dec
> SHA1: 808faea759d76b6d0e27512fbf36e9e22d5d4c65
> 
> Apache NetBeans Git Repo tag: 9.0-beta-rc2
> 
> Rat report shows no unknown licenses:
> 
> https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-release/lastSuccessf
> ulBuild/artifact/rat-java-temp/nbbuild/build/rat-report.txt
> 
> Included as a convenience is a binary, not relevant for the voting
> purposes, but as a convenience only, unzip it and run it and you'll
> see Apache NetBeans:
> 
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-
> netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-beta-rc2/incubating-netbeans-java-9.0-
> beta-bin.zip
> 
> New & Noteworthy features of the 9.0 Release:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+
> 9.0+New+and+Noteworthy
> 
> Just like the Alpha release, the Beta release is focused specifically
> on IP clearance. With Beta, everything in Apache NetBeans Git
> complies
> with Apache IP clearance requirements:
> 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+
> 9.0+Beta
> 
> Changes between rc1 and rc2 -- binaries wrongly included in source
> zip
> have been removed:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-276
> 
> How to try out the Beta release:
> 
> 1. Download the artifact to be voted on and unzip it.
> 2. Build it using the README provided by the artifact.
> 3. Look in nbbuild/netbeans for the NetBeans installation created by
> the build process.
> 4. Run the NetBeans executable and (if you're running on JDK 8)
> you'll
> be prompted to install nb-javac, after agreeing to its licensing
> terms, and (if you're running on JDK 9), you'll be able to use javac
> directly from JDK 9 and, optionally, you'll be prompted to install
> nb-javac, after agreeing to its licensing terms.
> 
> If the above succeeds, i.e., Apache NetBeans installs and starts up,
> you will have a development environment that complies with Apache IP
> requirements and you should vote +1 in this thread. Bugs you
> encounter
> are irrelevant for the Beta release, after Beta, when the final
> release is put together, the bug fixing will begin via the NetCAT
> program.
> 
> Please try out the package, using the instructions above, and vote!
> 
> The vote is open for a minimum of 72 hours or until the necessary
> number of votes (3 binding +1s) is reached.
> 
> [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating)
> [ ] 0 I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm okay with the release
> [ ] -1 Do not release this package because...
> 
> Please add "(binding)" if your vote is binding, i.e., you are an
> Apache NetBeans committer, i.e., your name is on this page:
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/NetBeansProposal, although note the
> only real binding votes in the incubator are those of the IPMC, i.e.,
> in the next vote thread, after this one passes.
> 
> Geertjan
> on behalf of the Apache NetBeans PPMC
> 
> -
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@netbeans.incubator.apache.o
> rg
> 
> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
> 
> 
> 

Re: Users first (was Re: Pull requests need to be reviewed)

[Antonio]

On 15/01/18 21:58, Emilian Bold wrote:

[...] Jan probably needs help.


Sure he does.


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Re: PR Coding best practices

[Matthias Bläsing]

Hi,

Am Montag, den 15.01.2018, 14:29 +0100 schrieb Bertrand Delacretaz:
> 
> On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 9:07 AM, Antonio  wrote:
> > ...I started some PR coding best practices at [1]. ..
> 
> IMO "You will need an ICLA.." belongs to the contribution guidelines,
> and that should link to https://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.pdf
> 

I think the ASF does a bad job at making clear when and why a CLA is
needed. From the "How the ASF works" page:

http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#developers

Developer

A developer is a user who contributes to a project in the form of
code or documentation. They take extra steps to participate in a
project, are active on the developer mailing list, participate in
discussions, provide patches, documentation, suggestions, and
criticism. Developers are also known as contributors .

Committer

A committer is a developer that was given write access to the code
repository and has a signed Contributor License Agreement (CLA) on
file. 


This is missing a reasoning of the why and when for the CLA. Either
both parties are required to sign the CLA or none. Consider the
situation where the "Developer" offers a huge contribution to the
codebase. 

There is only one thing the CLA does: It grants the foundation the
right to relicense the code - see paragraph "2. Grant of Copyright
License".

The contribution from the developer is licensed to the ASF only by the
ALv2, so when the ASF decides, that its projects require a modified
license (ALv3), this huge contribution would need to be relicensed
seperatedly in any case.

Is there a real position of the ASF on this? By this I mean not hidden
in an LEGAL ticket or a random mailinglist post.

Greetings

Matthias

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc2

[Gary Bello]

vote +1, works on jdk8 and jdk9 so far; builds fine;
-Gary

On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 12:34 AM, Geertjan Wielenga <
geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Please vote on releasing Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc2! If
> this voting passes, another similar voting will be started on
> gene...@incubator.apache.org, and if that passes too, then we can
> release this version.
>
> Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) constitutes all the modules in
> the Apache NetBeans Git repo, which together provide the NetBeans
> Platform (i.e., the underlying application framework), which was
> released as Apache NetBeans 9.0 Alpha (incubating), as well as all the
> modules that provide the Java SE-related features of Apache NetBeans.
> In short, Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) is a full IDE for Java
> SE development.
>
> Build artifacts available here:
>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/
> incubating-netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-beta-rc2/
>
> The specific artifact to be voted on:
>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/
> incubating-netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-beta-rc2/
> incubating-netbeans-java-9.0-beta-source.zip
>
> Included in the above are the DEPENDENCIES, DISCLAIMER, LICENSE, and
> NOTICE files, as well as a README file with build instructions, which
> are the same as these:
>
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/master/README.md
>
> MD5: d74b2816d4f4f253c04ee6d9bf258dec
> SHA1: 808faea759d76b6d0e27512fbf36e9e22d5d4c65
>
> Apache NetBeans Git Repo tag: 9.0-beta-rc2
>
> Rat report shows no unknown licenses:
>
> https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-release/
> lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/rat-java-temp/nbbuild/build/rat-report.txt
>
> Included as a convenience is a binary, not relevant for the voting
> purposes, but as a convenience only, unzip it and run it and you'll
> see Apache NetBeans:
>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/
> incubating-netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-beta-rc2/
> incubating-netbeans-java-9.0-beta-bin.zip
>
> New & Noteworthy features of the 9.0 Release:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> Apache+NetBeans+9.0+New+and+Noteworthy
>
> Just like the Alpha release, the Beta release is focused specifically
> on IP clearance. With Beta, everything in Apache NetBeans Git complies
> with Apache IP clearance requirements:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
>
> Changes between rc1 and rc2 -- binaries wrongly included in source zip
> have been removed:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-276
>
> How to try out the Beta release:
>
> 1. Download the artifact to be voted on and unzip it.
> 2. Build it using the README provided by the artifact.
> 3. Look in nbbuild/netbeans for the NetBeans installation created by
> the build process.
> 4. Run the NetBeans executable and (if you're running on JDK 8) you'll
> be prompted to install nb-javac, after agreeing to its licensing
> terms, and (if you're running on JDK 9), you'll be able to use javac
> directly from JDK 9 and, optionally, you'll be prompted to install
> nb-javac, after agreeing to its licensing terms.
>
> If the above succeeds, i.e., Apache NetBeans installs and starts up,
> you will have a development environment that complies with Apache IP
> requirements and you should vote +1 in this thread. Bugs you encounter
> are irrelevant for the Beta release, after Beta, when the final
> release is put together, the bug fixing will begin via the NetCAT
> program.
>
> Please try out the package, using the instructions above, and vote!
>
> The vote is open for a minimum of 72 hours or until the necessary
> number of votes (3 binding +1s) is reached.
>
> [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating)
> [ ] 0 I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm okay with the release
> [ ] -1 Do not release this package because...
>
> Please add "(binding)" if your vote is binding, i.e., you are an
> Apache NetBeans committer, i.e., your name is on this page:
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/NetBeansProposal, although note the
> only real binding votes in the incubator are those of the IPMC, i.e.,
> in the next vote thread, after this one passes.
>
> Geertjan
> on behalf of the Apache NetBeans PPMC
>
> -
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>
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> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
>
>
>
>

Re: PR Coding best practices

[Daniel Trebbien]

Hello Geertjan,

I realize that it would be in the interests of transparency if I were able
to fully discuss my concerns, particularly my legal concerns, with signing
the ASF ICLA in an individual capacity.  However, I am not a lawyer, and I
feel that it would be legally precarious for me to discuss in any way the
legal interpretation of the ICLA's terms and implications thereof.
Furthermore, respectfully, I cannot have a discussion with you regarding my
legal concerns because, as far as I know, you are not a licensed attorney,
or if so, you are not offering to serve in a representative capacity.

What I will say is that one of my personal rules is to avoid signing legal
agreements of any kind which are not necessary for me to sign.  Pull
Requests of mine have already been merged into Apache NetBeans'
repository.  In addition, I have contributed to other Apache projects (e.g.
Subversion and Commons) without needing to sign the ASF ICLA.  I see no
reason to sign it now, especially when I have quoted one of the original
Apache Software Foundation board members who has specifically written that
it is not necessary for an individual contributor to sign the ICLA, even if
the contribution is massive.  If this is no longer the case, I would like
to see the official policy change document from the ASF, as this might mean
that unfortunately, I would need to stop contributing patches to Apache
NetBeans.

I have written on PR #253
 that I would rather
stick with the application of Section 5 "Submission of Contributions" of
the Apache License, Version 2.0 for my contributions, licensing my
contributions to NetBeans according to the terms of the Apache License,
Version 2.0.

Daniel


On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 10:21 AM, Geertjan Wielenga <
geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Just for clarity and my own understanding -- can you explain your
> objection to signing the ICLA?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gj
>
> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 6:28 PM, Daniel Trebbien 
> wrote:
> > "For important modifications you will need to submit an Individual
> > Contributor License Agreement (ICLA)
> >  ." is incorrect.
> >
> > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-infrastructure-
> dev/201112.mbox/%3ca603ffce-623b-43e9-87f8-39baa51c7...@gbiv.com%3E
> >
> > "Yes, that opinion comes from me speaking as a board member and
> > author of the Apache License, and has previously been cleared
> > with Apache's legal team for a long ago discussion with Incubator.
> > *We don't need a CLA on file to accept contributions from
> non-committers.*
> >
> > *We just need a clear intent by the author to contribute underour normal
> > terms.*
> >
> > ...
> >
> > Again, there is no such requirement for commits/pushes at Apache.
> > The person responsible for moving the bits into our repository
> > is responsible for verifying that they have the right to do so
> > before the push is made.
> >
> >
> >
> > *The authors do not need to have a CLAon file even if the contribution is
> > massive -- CLAs are onlyrequired for the people who want an account at
> > Apache and thusare allowed to make the decision to push those bits into
> > ourrepository.*"
> >
> > (Emphasis added.)
> >
> > I think that it would be a good idea to specifically mention Section 5
> > "Submission of Contributions" of the Apache License, however.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 5:29 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz <
> bdelacre...@apache.org
> >> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 9:07 AM, Antonio  wrote:
> >> > ...I started some PR coding best practices at [1]. ..
> >>
> >> IMO "You will need an ICLA.." belongs to the contribution guidelines,
> >> and that should link to https://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.pdf
> >>
> >> -Bertrand
> >>
> >> -
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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc2

[Matthias Bläsing]

Hi Bertrand,

Am Montag, den 15.01.2018, 17:11 +0100 schrieb Bertrand Delacretaz:
> Hi,
> 
> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 9:34 AM, Geertjan Wielenga
>  wrote:
> > ...Please vote on releasing Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating)
> > rc2...
> 
> I started reviewing the release, does this file really belong in
> there?
> 
> ./libs.git/test/unit/data/private_key: PEM DSA private key
> 
> ...feels weird to distribute a private key, what's the purpose?
> 

the file is used in unittests - see:

/libs.git/test/unit/src/org/netbeans/libs/git/jgit/ConnectionTest.java

lines 254, 289, 335

This looks sensible to me. The point is not to actually use it to sign
something, but to test the integration parts.

Greetings

Matthias

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc2

[Matthias Bläsing]

Hey Edson,

Am Montag, den 15.01.2018, 14:25 -0200 schrieb Edson Carlos Ericksson Richter:
> Em 15/01/2018 06:34, Geertjan Wielenga escreveu:
> > 
> > Please vote on releasing Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc2! If
> > this voting passes, another similar voting will be started on
> > gene...@incubator.apache.org, and if that passes too, then we can
> > release this version.
> 
> I know I'm not being active in NetCat testing for a long while, but I 
> can use few hours this week for J2EE testing.
> Does this version works with 8.2 plugins? I can test the RC2, but only 
> having certain plugins that are requirement for our daily job (like GWT4NB).
> If this is not the right place to ask, I'll just wait and see.
> 

at this point Netbeans is still in transition. The first release has
already happened, consisting only of the netbeans platform, now the
next part, the Java SE IDE parts are integrated and released.

This is still a Beta release. Oracle is preparing to donate the rest.

It is a slow process, but I think this could be expected.

The whole point of the incubation process is, that the community can
find itself and development has to gain routine. This will need some
time.

For the concrete phase this is whats happening: There is a certain
state in the git repository. That state is frozen into a source.zip.
This ZIP file and its enclosed binaries for the release are
checksummed, so that we are sure we are speaking about the same files.
The contents of the files is then checked whether or not it can be
released, that does not mean it is bugfree, but that licenses are ok
and the right files are present.

Greetings

Matthias

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Re: PR Coding best practices

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Just for clarity and my own understanding -- can you explain your
objection to signing the ICLA?

Thanks,

Gj

On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 6:28 PM, Daniel Trebbien  wrote:
> "For important modifications you will need to submit an Individual
> Contributor License Agreement (ICLA)
>  ." is incorrect.
>
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-infrastructure-dev/201112.mbox/%3ca603ffce-623b-43e9-87f8-39baa51c7...@gbiv.com%3E
>
> "Yes, that opinion comes from me speaking as a board member and
> author of the Apache License, and has previously been cleared
> with Apache's legal team for a long ago discussion with Incubator.
> *We don't need a CLA on file to accept contributions from non-committers.*
>
> *We just need a clear intent by the author to contribute underour normal
> terms.*
>
> ...
>
> Again, there is no such requirement for commits/pushes at Apache.
> The person responsible for moving the bits into our repository
> is responsible for verifying that they have the right to do so
> before the push is made.
>
>
>
> *The authors do not need to have a CLAon file even if the contribution is
> massive -- CLAs are onlyrequired for the people who want an account at
> Apache and thusare allowed to make the decision to push those bits into
> ourrepository.*"
>
> (Emphasis added.)
>
> I think that it would be a good idea to specifically mention Section 5
> "Submission of Contributions" of the Apache License, however.
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 5:29 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz > wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 9:07 AM, Antonio  wrote:
>> > ...I started some PR coding best practices at [1]. ..
>>
>> IMO "You will need an ICLA.." belongs to the contribution guidelines,
>> and that should link to https://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.pdf
>>
>> -Bertrand
>>
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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc2

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Everyone highly appreciates your involvement -- however note that
right now we're very specifically verifying the Beta release and
specifically around its IP clearance. The steps you're requested to
take to verify the release are also explicitly listed.

Apologies for any offence, none intended, simply want to make sure you
understand the specific requirements for Beta verification at this
stage.

Thanks,

Gj

On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 7:13 PM, Edson Carlos Ericksson Richter
 wrote:
>
> Em 15/01/2018 14:40, Geertjan Wielenga escreveu:
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 5:25 PM, Edson Carlos Ericksson Richter
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Em 15/01/2018 06:34, Geertjan Wielenga escreveu:

 Hi all,

 Please vote on releasing Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc2! If
 this voting passes, another similar voting will be started on
 gene...@incubator.apache.org, and if that passes too, then we can
 release this version.
>>>
>>>
>>> I know I'm not being active in NetCat testing for a long while, but I can
>>> use few hours this week for J2EE testing.
>>> Does this version works with 8.2 plugins? I can test the RC2, but only
>>> having certain plugins that are requirement for our daily job (like
>>> GWT4NB).
>>> If this is not the right place to ask, I'll just wait and see.
>>
>>
>> Please, read the vote announcement again.
>>
>> The Beta release is all about IP clearance. It is not about features
>> and Java EE has not been donated yet anyway, so what you're writing
>> here makes no sense -- can you not reply immediately and, instead,
>> read the e-mail at the start of this thread again, a few times?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Gj
>
>
> I did. And to be completely honest, it was not clear to me. That's why I've
> asked - is better to ask than die on ignorance. Also, I've not replied
> immediately neither left reading before the end. You've built a series of
> wrong assumptions here.
>
> Just to remember, "J2SE related" would a large variety of exotic animals
> (for instance, WebServices are J2EE, but you can have them in J2SE: so there
> is or there is not WebServices available?) - and you have not explicited in
> your "not so verbose" announcement mail that J2EE (neither J2ME) would or
> would not be available.
>
> I would reccomend you to review your writing style instead. Communication
> skills are very important for someone reposible for communication. Maybe a
> "feature matrix NetBeans 9.0 x Java Technologies" or at least between
> "NetBeans 8.2 x NetBeans 9.0" would have evicted my question.
>
> But I've understand the bottom line - and I'll not disturb anymore. I
> withdraw my offer to work a few hours this week. Just remember that this
> kind of answer you sent to someone who asked a legitimate question is not
> the best way to build a strong community. I've been a active contributor in
> the past, but I'll think twice before voluteering to work with you again.
>
> Wish you the best,
>
> Edson
>
>
>>
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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc2

[Edson Carlos Ericksson Richter]

Em 15/01/2018 14:40, Geertjan Wielenga escreveu:

On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 5:25 PM, Edson Carlos Ericksson Richter
 wrote:

Em 15/01/2018 06:34, Geertjan Wielenga escreveu:

Hi all,

Please vote on releasing Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc2! If
this voting passes, another similar voting will be started on
gene...@incubator.apache.org, and if that passes too, then we can
release this version.


I know I'm not being active in NetCat testing for a long while, but I can
use few hours this week for J2EE testing.
Does this version works with 8.2 plugins? I can test the RC2, but only
having certain plugins that are requirement for our daily job (like GWT4NB).
If this is not the right place to ask, I'll just wait and see.


Please, read the vote announcement again.

The Beta release is all about IP clearance. It is not about features
and Java EE has not been donated yet anyway, so what you're writing
here makes no sense -- can you not reply immediately and, instead,
read the e-mail at the start of this thread again, a few times?

Thanks,

Gj


I did. And to be completely honest, it was not clear to me. That's why 
I've asked - is better to ask than die on ignorance. Also, I've not 
replied immediately neither left reading before the end. You've built a 
series of wrong assumptions here.


Just to remember, "J2SE related" would a large variety of exotic animals 
(for instance, WebServices are J2EE, but you can have them in J2SE: so 
there is or there is not WebServices available?) - and you have not 
explicited in your "not so verbose" announcement mail that J2EE (neither 
J2ME) would or would not be available.


I would reccomend you to review your writing style instead. 
Communication skills are very important for someone reposible for 
communication. Maybe a "feature matrix NetBeans 9.0 x Java Technologies" 
or at least between "NetBeans 8.2 x NetBeans 9.0" would have evicted my 
question.


But I've understand the bottom line - and I'll not disturb anymore. I 
withdraw my offer to work a few hours this week. Just remember that this 
kind of answer you sent to someone who asked a legitimate question is 
not the best way to build a strong community. I've been a active 
contributor in the past, but I'll think twice before voluteering to work 
with you again.


Wish you the best,

Edson



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Re: PR Coding best practices

[Daniel Trebbien]

"For important modifications you will need to submit an Individual
Contributor License Agreement (ICLA)
 ." is incorrect.

http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-infrastructure-dev/201112.mbox/%3ca603ffce-623b-43e9-87f8-39baa51c7...@gbiv.com%3E

"Yes, that opinion comes from me speaking as a board member and
author of the Apache License, and has previously been cleared
with Apache's legal team for a long ago discussion with Incubator.
*We don't need a CLA on file to accept contributions from non-committers.*

*We just need a clear intent by the author to contribute underour normal
terms.*

...

Again, there is no such requirement for commits/pushes at Apache.
The person responsible for moving the bits into our repository
is responsible for verifying that they have the right to do so
before the push is made.



*The authors do not need to have a CLAon file even if the contribution is
massive -- CLAs are onlyrequired for the people who want an account at
Apache and thusare allowed to make the decision to push those bits into
ourrepository.*"

(Emphasis added.)

I think that it would be a good idea to specifically mention Section 5
"Submission of Contributions" of the Apache License, however.


On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 5:29 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 9:07 AM, Antonio  wrote:
> > ...I started some PR coding best practices at [1]. ..
>
> IMO "You will need an ICLA.." belongs to the contribution guidelines,
> and that should link to https://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.pdf
>
> -Bertrand
>
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>
>
>

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc2

[Geertjan Wielenga]

On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 5:11 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 9:34 AM, Geertjan Wielenga
>  wrote:
>> ...Please vote on releasing Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc2...
>
> I started reviewing the release, does this file really belong in there?
>
> ./libs.git/test/unit/data/private_key: PEM DSA private key
>
> ...feels weird to distribute a private key, what's the purpose?
>

Most likely there erroneously.

Gj

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc2

[Geertjan Wielenga]

On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 5:25 PM, Edson Carlos Ericksson Richter
 wrote:
> Em 15/01/2018 06:34, Geertjan Wielenga escreveu:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Please vote on releasing Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc2! If
>> this voting passes, another similar voting will be started on
>> gene...@incubator.apache.org, and if that passes too, then we can
>> release this version.
>
>
> I know I'm not being active in NetCat testing for a long while, but I can
> use few hours this week for J2EE testing.
> Does this version works with 8.2 plugins? I can test the RC2, but only
> having certain plugins that are requirement for our daily job (like GWT4NB).
> If this is not the right place to ask, I'll just wait and see.


Please, read the vote announcement again.

The Beta release is all about IP clearance. It is not about features
and Java EE has not been donated yet anyway, so what you're writing
here makes no sense -- can you not reply immediately and, instead,
read the e-mail at the start of this thread again, a few times?

Thanks,

Gj

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc2

[Edson Carlos Ericksson Richter]

Em 15/01/2018 06:34, Geertjan Wielenga escreveu:

Hi all,

Please vote on releasing Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc2! If
this voting passes, another similar voting will be started on
gene...@incubator.apache.org, and if that passes too, then we can
release this version.


I know I'm not being active in NetCat testing for a long while, but I 
can use few hours this week for J2EE testing.
Does this version works with 8.2 plugins? I can test the RC2, but only 
having certain plugins that are requirement for our daily job (like GWT4NB).

If this is not the right place to ask, I'll just wait and see.

Thanks,

Edson



Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) constitutes all the modules in
the Apache NetBeans Git repo, which together provide the NetBeans
Platform (i.e., the underlying application framework), which was
released as Apache NetBeans 9.0 Alpha (incubating), as well as all the
modules that provide the Java SE-related features of Apache NetBeans.
In short, Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) is a full IDE for Java
SE development.

Build artifacts available here:

https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-beta-rc2/

The specific artifact to be voted on:

https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-beta-rc2/incubating-netbeans-java-9.0-beta-source.zip

Included in the above are the DEPENDENCIES, DISCLAIMER, LICENSE, and
NOTICE files, as well as a README file with build instructions, which
are the same as these:

https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/master/README.md

MD5: d74b2816d4f4f253c04ee6d9bf258dec
SHA1: 808faea759d76b6d0e27512fbf36e9e22d5d4c65

Apache NetBeans Git Repo tag: 9.0-beta-rc2

Rat report shows no unknown licenses:

https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-release/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/rat-java-temp/nbbuild/build/rat-report.txt

Included as a convenience is a binary, not relevant for the voting
purposes, but as a convenience only, unzip it and run it and you'll
see Apache NetBeans:

https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-beta-rc2/incubating-netbeans-java-9.0-beta-bin.zip

New & Noteworthy features of the 9.0 Release:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+9.0+New+and+Noteworthy

Just like the Alpha release, the Beta release is focused specifically
on IP clearance. With Beta, everything in Apache NetBeans Git complies
with Apache IP clearance requirements:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta

Changes between rc1 and rc2 -- binaries wrongly included in source zip
have been removed:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-276

How to try out the Beta release:

1. Download the artifact to be voted on and unzip it.
2. Build it using the README provided by the artifact.
3. Look in nbbuild/netbeans for the NetBeans installation created by
the build process.
4. Run the NetBeans executable and (if you're running on JDK 8) you'll
be prompted to install nb-javac, after agreeing to its licensing
terms, and (if you're running on JDK 9), you'll be able to use javac
directly from JDK 9 and, optionally, you'll be prompted to install
nb-javac, after agreeing to its licensing terms.

If the above succeeds, i.e., Apache NetBeans installs and starts up,
you will have a development environment that complies with Apache IP
requirements and you should vote +1 in this thread. Bugs you encounter
are irrelevant for the Beta release, after Beta, when the final
release is put together, the bug fixing will begin via the NetCAT
program.

Please try out the package, using the instructions above, and vote!

The vote is open for a minimum of 72 hours or until the necessary
number of votes (3 binding +1s) is reached.

[ ] +1 Release this package as Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating)
[ ] 0 I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm okay with the release
[ ] -1 Do not release this package because...

Please add "(binding)" if your vote is binding, i.e., you are an
Apache NetBeans committer, i.e., your name is on this page:
https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/NetBeansProposal, although note the
only real binding votes in the incubator are those of the IPMC, i.e.,
in the next vote thread, after this one passes.

Geertjan
on behalf of the Apache NetBeans PPMC

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc2

[Bertrand Delacretaz]

Hi,

On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 9:34 AM, Geertjan Wielenga
 wrote:
> ...Please vote on releasing Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc2...

I started reviewing the release, does this file really belong in there?

./libs.git/test/unit/data/private_key: PEM DSA private key

...feels weird to distribute a private key, what's the purpose?

-Bertrand

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Re: PR Coding best practices

[Bertrand Delacretaz]

Hi,

On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 9:07 AM, Antonio  wrote:
> ...I started some PR coding best practices at [1]. ..

IMO "You will need an ICLA.." belongs to the contribution guidelines,
and that should link to https://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.pdf

-Bertrand

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc2

[Glenn Holmer]

On 01/15/2018 02:34 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> Please vote on releasing Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc2!

> [X] +1 Release this package as Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating)
> [ ] 0 I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm okay with the release
> [ ] -1 Do not release this package because...

Built from source, ran under 1.8.0_152.

So happy and proud to see NetBeans reach this milestone!

-- 
Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682)
"After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc2

[Kai Uwe Pel]

+1 (binding)

Everything works well!

Cheers,
Kai



On 1/15/2018 9:34 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:

Hi all,

Please vote on releasing Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc2! If
this voting passes, another similar voting will be started on
gene...@incubator.apache.org, and if that passes too, then we can
release this version.

Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) constitutes all the modules in
the Apache NetBeans Git repo, which together provide the NetBeans
Platform (i.e., the underlying application framework), which was
released as Apache NetBeans 9.0 Alpha (incubating), as well as all the
modules that provide the Java SE-related features of Apache NetBeans.
In short, Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) is a full IDE for Java
SE development.

Build artifacts available here:

https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-beta-rc2/

The specific artifact to be voted on:

https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-beta-rc2/incubating-netbeans-java-9.0-beta-source.zip

Included in the above are the DEPENDENCIES, DISCLAIMER, LICENSE, and
NOTICE files, as well as a README file with build instructions, which
are the same as these:

https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/master/README.md

MD5: d74b2816d4f4f253c04ee6d9bf258dec
SHA1: 808faea759d76b6d0e27512fbf36e9e22d5d4c65

Apache NetBeans Git Repo tag: 9.0-beta-rc2

Rat report shows no unknown licenses:

https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-release/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/rat-java-temp/nbbuild/build/rat-report.txt

Included as a convenience is a binary, not relevant for the voting
purposes, but as a convenience only, unzip it and run it and you'll
see Apache NetBeans:

https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-beta-rc2/incubating-netbeans-java-9.0-beta-bin.zip

New & Noteworthy features of the 9.0 Release:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+9.0+New+and+Noteworthy

Just like the Alpha release, the Beta release is focused specifically
on IP clearance. With Beta, everything in Apache NetBeans Git complies
with Apache IP clearance requirements:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta

Changes between rc1 and rc2 -- binaries wrongly included in source zip
have been removed:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-276

How to try out the Beta release:

1. Download the artifact to be voted on and unzip it.
2. Build it using the README provided by the artifact.
3. Look in nbbuild/netbeans for the NetBeans installation created by
the build process.
4. Run the NetBeans executable and (if you're running on JDK 8) you'll
be prompted to install nb-javac, after agreeing to its licensing
terms, and (if you're running on JDK 9), you'll be able to use javac
directly from JDK 9 and, optionally, you'll be prompted to install
nb-javac, after agreeing to its licensing terms.

If the above succeeds, i.e., Apache NetBeans installs and starts up,
you will have a development environment that complies with Apache IP
requirements and you should vote +1 in this thread. Bugs you encounter
are irrelevant for the Beta release, after Beta, when the final
release is put together, the bug fixing will begin via the NetCAT
program.

Please try out the package, using the instructions above, and vote!

The vote is open for a minimum of 72 hours or until the necessary
number of votes (3 binding +1s) is reached.

[ ] +1 Release this package as Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating)
[ ] 0 I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm okay with the release
[ ] -1 Do not release this package because...

Please add "(binding)" if your vote is binding, i.e., you are an
Apache NetBeans committer, i.e., your name is on this page:
https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/NetBeansProposal, although note the
only real binding votes in the incubator are those of the IPMC, i.e.,
in the next vote thread, after this one passes.

Geertjan
on behalf of the Apache NetBeans PPMC

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc2

[Neil C Smith]

Hi,

+1 (binding)

Checksums and keys verified.

Built and run on

Java: 1.8.0_151; OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM 25.151-b12
Runtime: OpenJDK Runtime Environment
1.8.0_151-8u151-b12-0ubuntu0.16.04.2-b12
System: Linux version 4.13.0-26-generic running on amd64; UTF-8; en_GB (nb)

On Mon, 15 Jan 2018 at 10:17 Antonio  wrote:

> incubator-netbeans-9.0-beta-rc2$ diff -qr . ../incubating-to-check
> Only in .: .gitattributes
> Only in .: .gitignore
> Only in .: .travis.yml
> Only in ../incubating-to-check: DEPENDENCIES
> Only in .: form.binding
> Only in .: hibernate
> Only in .: hibernate4lib
> Only in .: libs.svnClientAdapter.svnkit
> Only in .: o.jdesktop.beansbinding
> Only in .: travis-check-line-endings.sh
>
>
Yep, still dislike this ;-) but not as to hold up anything now (have not
done this check myself).

Best wishes,

Neil

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc2

[Antonio]

Errata:

Built with
openjdk version "1.8.0_151"
OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0_151-8u151-b12-1~deb9u1-b12)
OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 25.151-b12, mixed mode)

Ran with
java version "9.0.1"
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 9.0.1+11)
Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 9.0.1+11, mixed mode)


On 15/01/18 11:17, Antonio wrote:

+1 (binding)

Checksums are correct.

I've built & run this on
Linux 4.9.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.65-3+deb9u1 (2017-12-23) x86_64 
java version "9.0.1"

Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 9.0.1+11)
Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 9.0.1+11, mixed mode)

Also compared between github branch sources 
(incubator-netbeans-9.0-beta-rc2) and the beta sources 
(../incubating-to-check)


incubator-netbeans-9.0-beta-rc2$ diff -qr . ../incubating-to-check
Only in .: .gitattributes
Only in .: .gitignore
Only in .: .travis.yml
Only in ../incubating-to-check: DEPENDENCIES
Only in .: form.binding
Only in .: hibernate
Only in .: hibernate4lib
Only in .: libs.svnClientAdapter.svnkit
Only in .: o.jdesktop.beansbinding
Only in .: travis-check-line-endings.sh



On 15/01/18 09:34, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:

Hi all,

Please vote on releasing Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc2! If
this voting passes, another similar voting will be started on
gene...@incubator.apache.org, and if that passes too, then we can
release this version.

Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) constitutes all the modules in
the Apache NetBeans Git repo, which together provide the NetBeans
Platform (i.e., the underlying application framework), which was
released as Apache NetBeans 9.0 Alpha (incubating), as well as all the
modules that provide the Java SE-related features of Apache NetBeans.
In short, Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) is a full IDE for Java
SE development.

Build artifacts available here:

https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-beta-rc2/ 



The specific artifact to be voted on:

https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-beta-rc2/incubating-netbeans-java-9.0-beta-source.zip 



Included in the above are the DEPENDENCIES, DISCLAIMER, LICENSE, and
NOTICE files, as well as a README file with build instructions, which
are the same as these:

https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/master/README.md

MD5: d74b2816d4f4f253c04ee6d9bf258dec
SHA1: 808faea759d76b6d0e27512fbf36e9e22d5d4c65

Apache NetBeans Git Repo tag: 9.0-beta-rc2

Rat report shows no unknown licenses:

https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-release/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/rat-java-temp/nbbuild/build/rat-report.txt 



Included as a convenience is a binary, not relevant for the voting
purposes, but as a convenience only, unzip it and run it and you'll
see Apache NetBeans:

https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-beta-rc2/incubating-netbeans-java-9.0-beta-bin.zip 



New & Noteworthy features of the 9.0 Release:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+9.0+New+and+Noteworthy 



Just like the Alpha release, the Beta release is focused specifically
on IP clearance. With Beta, everything in Apache NetBeans Git complies
with Apache IP clearance requirements:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta 



Changes between rc1 and rc2 -- binaries wrongly included in source zip
have been removed:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-276

How to try out the Beta release:

1. Download the artifact to be voted on and unzip it.
2. Build it using the README provided by the artifact.
3. Look in nbbuild/netbeans for the NetBeans installation created by
the build process.
4. Run the NetBeans executable and (if you're running on JDK 8) you'll
be prompted to install nb-javac, after agreeing to its licensing
terms, and (if you're running on JDK 9), you'll be able to use javac
directly from JDK 9 and, optionally, you'll be prompted to install
nb-javac, after agreeing to its licensing terms.

If the above succeeds, i.e., Apache NetBeans installs and starts up,
you will have a development environment that complies with Apache IP
requirements and you should vote +1 in this thread. Bugs you encounter
are irrelevant for the Beta release, after Beta, when the final
release is put together, the bug fixing will begin via the NetCAT
program.

Please try out the package, using the instructions above, and vote!

The vote is open for a minimum of 72 hours or until the necessary
number of votes (3 binding +1s) is reached.

[ ] +1 Release this package as Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating)
[ ] 0 I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm okay with the release
[ ] -1 Do not release this package because...

Please add "(binding)" if your vote is binding, i.e., you are an
Apache NetBeans committer, i.e., your name is on this page:

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc2

[Antonio]

+1 (binding)

Checksums are correct.

I've built & run this on
Linux 4.9.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.65-3+deb9u1 (2017-12-23) x86_64 
java version "9.0.1"

Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 9.0.1+11)
Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 9.0.1+11, mixed mode)

Also compared between github branch sources 
(incubator-netbeans-9.0-beta-rc2) and the beta sources 
(../incubating-to-check)


incubator-netbeans-9.0-beta-rc2$ diff -qr . ../incubating-to-check
Only in .: .gitattributes
Only in .: .gitignore
Only in .: .travis.yml
Only in ../incubating-to-check: DEPENDENCIES
Only in .: form.binding
Only in .: hibernate
Only in .: hibernate4lib
Only in .: libs.svnClientAdapter.svnkit
Only in .: o.jdesktop.beansbinding
Only in .: travis-check-line-endings.sh



On 15/01/18 09:34, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:

Hi all,

Please vote on releasing Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc2! If
this voting passes, another similar voting will be started on
gene...@incubator.apache.org, and if that passes too, then we can
release this version.

Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) constitutes all the modules in
the Apache NetBeans Git repo, which together provide the NetBeans
Platform (i.e., the underlying application framework), which was
released as Apache NetBeans 9.0 Alpha (incubating), as well as all the
modules that provide the Java SE-related features of Apache NetBeans.
In short, Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) is a full IDE for Java
SE development.

Build artifacts available here:

https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-beta-rc2/

The specific artifact to be voted on:

https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-beta-rc2/incubating-netbeans-java-9.0-beta-source.zip

Included in the above are the DEPENDENCIES, DISCLAIMER, LICENSE, and
NOTICE files, as well as a README file with build instructions, which
are the same as these:

https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/master/README.md

MD5: d74b2816d4f4f253c04ee6d9bf258dec
SHA1: 808faea759d76b6d0e27512fbf36e9e22d5d4c65

Apache NetBeans Git Repo tag: 9.0-beta-rc2

Rat report shows no unknown licenses:

https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-release/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/rat-java-temp/nbbuild/build/rat-report.txt

Included as a convenience is a binary, not relevant for the voting
purposes, but as a convenience only, unzip it and run it and you'll
see Apache NetBeans:

https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-beta-rc2/incubating-netbeans-java-9.0-beta-bin.zip

New & Noteworthy features of the 9.0 Release:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+9.0+New+and+Noteworthy

Just like the Alpha release, the Beta release is focused specifically
on IP clearance. With Beta, everything in Apache NetBeans Git complies
with Apache IP clearance requirements:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta

Changes between rc1 and rc2 -- binaries wrongly included in source zip
have been removed:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-276

How to try out the Beta release:

1. Download the artifact to be voted on and unzip it.
2. Build it using the README provided by the artifact.
3. Look in nbbuild/netbeans for the NetBeans installation created by
the build process.
4. Run the NetBeans executable and (if you're running on JDK 8) you'll
be prompted to install nb-javac, after agreeing to its licensing
terms, and (if you're running on JDK 9), you'll be able to use javac
directly from JDK 9 and, optionally, you'll be prompted to install
nb-javac, after agreeing to its licensing terms.

If the above succeeds, i.e., Apache NetBeans installs and starts up,
you will have a development environment that complies with Apache IP
requirements and you should vote +1 in this thread. Bugs you encounter
are irrelevant for the Beta release, after Beta, when the final
release is put together, the bug fixing will begin via the NetCAT
program.

Please try out the package, using the instructions above, and vote!

The vote is open for a minimum of 72 hours or until the necessary
number of votes (3 binding +1s) is reached.

[ ] +1 Release this package as Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating)
[ ] 0 I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm okay with the release
[ ] -1 Do not release this package because...

Please add "(binding)" if your vote is binding, i.e., you are an
Apache NetBeans committer, i.e., your name is on this page:
https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/NetBeansProposal, although note the
only real binding votes in the incubator are those of the IPMC, i.e.,
in the next vote thread, after this one passes.

Geertjan
on behalf of the Apache NetBeans PPMC

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Re: test

[Antonio]

Hi Mark,

To send messages to the developer mailing list please use 
"dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org".


d...@netbeans.apache.org is not the mailing list address: it's just a 
bunch of nerds ;-)


Thanks,
Antonio

On 15/01/18 10:10, Mark Sims wrote:





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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc1

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Please do not vote in this thread anymore. This thread is closed. Vote
in the rc2 thread instead:

https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/796200c149232ba2da722c6d4b1310307708e09b2afa77eb90ecaebc@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E

Gj

On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 10:08 AM, Neil C Smith  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Sun, 14 Jan 2018 at 14:08 Geertjan Wielenga <
> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> That's exactly what we're doing already. See the start of this thread
>> -- if you like we can add that caveat even more clearly. I.e., the
>> artifact that the vote is about is the source artifact and the
>> convenience binary is only there as a convenience.
>>
>
> Yes, I re-read the original post on this thread before commenting.  I was
> thinking that we might want to be more explicit on the required steps
> before voting - eg. quoting those Apache requirements, and potentially
> adding specific ones of our own if/when required.
>
> I'm in two minds about the convenience binary being a convenience! ;-)  If
> it's no use for voting, it's probably better not on the vote thread.  OTOH,
> getting more eyes on it / allowing non-binding votes based on it might be a
> good thing?
>
> Anyway, thoughts for the future - on to testing rc2!
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
>
>
> --
> Neil C Smith
> Artist & Technologist
> www.neilcsmith.net
>
> Praxis LIVE - hybrid visual IDE for creative coding - www.praxislive.org

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc1

[Neil C Smith]

Hi,

On Sun, 14 Jan 2018 at 14:08 Geertjan Wielenga <
geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> That's exactly what we're doing already. See the start of this thread
> -- if you like we can add that caveat even more clearly. I.e., the
> artifact that the vote is about is the source artifact and the
> convenience binary is only there as a convenience.
>

Yes, I re-read the original post on this thread before commenting.  I was
thinking that we might want to be more explicit on the required steps
before voting - eg. quoting those Apache requirements, and potentially
adding specific ones of our own if/when required.

I'm in two minds about the convenience binary being a convenience! ;-)  If
it's no use for voting, it's probably better not on the vote thread.  OTOH,
getting more eyes on it / allowing non-binding votes based on it might be a
good thing?

Anyway, thoughts for the future - on to testing rc2!

Best wishes,

Neil


-- 
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Artist & Technologist
www.neilcsmith.net

Praxis LIVE - hybrid visual IDE for creative coding - www.praxislive.org

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc1

[Jiří Kovalský]

+1 (binding)

Good work,

-Jirka

Dne 15.1.2018 v 01:05 James Gosling napsal(a):


+1 (binding)

Everything I tried worked nicely.

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[VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc2

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Hi all,

Please vote on releasing Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc2! If
this voting passes, another similar voting will be started on
gene...@incubator.apache.org, and if that passes too, then we can
release this version.

Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) constitutes all the modules in
the Apache NetBeans Git repo, which together provide the NetBeans
Platform (i.e., the underlying application framework), which was
released as Apache NetBeans 9.0 Alpha (incubating), as well as all the
modules that provide the Java SE-related features of Apache NetBeans.
In short, Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) is a full IDE for Java
SE development.

Build artifacts available here:

https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-beta-rc2/

The specific artifact to be voted on:

https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-beta-rc2/incubating-netbeans-java-9.0-beta-source.zip

Included in the above are the DEPENDENCIES, DISCLAIMER, LICENSE, and
NOTICE files, as well as a README file with build instructions, which
are the same as these:

https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/master/README.md

MD5: d74b2816d4f4f253c04ee6d9bf258dec
SHA1: 808faea759d76b6d0e27512fbf36e9e22d5d4c65

Apache NetBeans Git Repo tag: 9.0-beta-rc2

Rat report shows no unknown licenses:

https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-release/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/rat-java-temp/nbbuild/build/rat-report.txt

Included as a convenience is a binary, not relevant for the voting
purposes, but as a convenience only, unzip it and run it and you'll
see Apache NetBeans:

https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-beta-rc2/incubating-netbeans-java-9.0-beta-bin.zip

New & Noteworthy features of the 9.0 Release:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+9.0+New+and+Noteworthy

Just like the Alpha release, the Beta release is focused specifically
on IP clearance. With Beta, everything in Apache NetBeans Git complies
with Apache IP clearance requirements:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta

Changes between rc1 and rc2 -- binaries wrongly included in source zip
have been removed:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-276

How to try out the Beta release:

1. Download the artifact to be voted on and unzip it.
2. Build it using the README provided by the artifact.
3. Look in nbbuild/netbeans for the NetBeans installation created by
the build process.
4. Run the NetBeans executable and (if you're running on JDK 8) you'll
be prompted to install nb-javac, after agreeing to its licensing
terms, and (if you're running on JDK 9), you'll be able to use javac
directly from JDK 9 and, optionally, you'll be prompted to install
nb-javac, after agreeing to its licensing terms.

If the above succeeds, i.e., Apache NetBeans installs and starts up,
you will have a development environment that complies with Apache IP
requirements and you should vote +1 in this thread. Bugs you encounter
are irrelevant for the Beta release, after Beta, when the final
release is put together, the bug fixing will begin via the NetCAT
program.

Please try out the package, using the instructions above, and vote!

The vote is open for a minimum of 72 hours or until the necessary
number of votes (3 binding +1s) is reached.

[ ] +1 Release this package as Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating)
[ ] 0 I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm okay with the release
[ ] -1 Do not release this package because...

Please add "(binding)" if your vote is binding, i.e., you are an
Apache NetBeans committer, i.e., your name is on this page:
https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/NetBeansProposal, although note the
only real binding votes in the incubator are those of the IPMC, i.e.,
in the next vote thread, after this one passes.

Geertjan
on behalf of the Apache NetBeans PPMC

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