[RESULT][VOTE]: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 (RC4)

2014-04-29 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
The vote period to release the AOO 4.1.0 RC4 (based on release
branch AOO410, revision 1589052) as Apache OpenOffice 4.1 has ended.

The ballot results in 28 votes, 28 +1 votes including 12 binding PMC
member votes.

3 binding +1 votes are necessary for the release. That means the ballot
closed successful to release the RC as AOO 4.1 Beta.


Vote tally

+1 imacat (binding)
+1 Николай Нинков
+1 Markus Lange (binding)
+1 Kay Schenk (binding)
+1 V Stuart Foote
+1 Armin Le Grand (binding)
+1 Yueshen Fan
+1 Steve Yin
+1 Edwin Sharp
+1 Regina Henschel (binding)
+1 Shengfeng Liu
+1 Pedro Albuquerque
+1 Dirk Groskamp
+1 Josef Latt
+1 Nityanand Sharma
+1 Kazunari Hirano
+1 Aivaras Stepukonis
+1 Mathias Röllig
+1 Don Harbison (binding)
+1 Andrea Pescetti (binding)
+1 Juergen Schmidt (binding)
+1 Oliver Rainer Wittmann (binding)
+1 Herbert Duerr (binding)
+1 Andre Fischer (binding)
+1 Jeongkyu Kim
+1 Pedro Giffuni
+1 Andrew Rist (binding)
+1 Tal Daniel



On 4/25/14 5:11 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> this is a call for vote on releasing the available release candidate
> (RC4) as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0.
> 
> Apache OpenOffice 4.1 is a minor update with many bugfixes and at least
> 2 major improvements. It's the first version where we have the
> iAccessibility2 support integrated and available. A very huge step
> forward to reach and better support disabled users especially on
> Windows. The second improvement is the switch to 64 bit on MacOS. A long
> and overdue "must do" shift forward to support newer APIs (replace
> deprecated APIs)  and platforms on MacOS.
> And we can provide again more complete UI translations and have now
> support for 38 languages. New languages for this release compared to
> 4.0.1 are Bulgarian, Danish, Hebrew, Hindi, Norwegian Bokmal and Thai.
> 
> Apache OpenOffice 4.1 will be a further key milestone to continue the
> success of OpenOffice.
> 
> An overview of the integrated release issues can be found under:
> 
> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/milestones/4.1.0-rc4/AOO4.1.0_RC4_fixes.html
> 
> The RC4 fixed 2 further problems:
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124682
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124701
> 
> RC3:
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124617
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124639
> 
> RC2:
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124599
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124607
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124509
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124394
> 
> 
> The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary
> releases for 38 languages) and further information how to verify and
> review Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 can be found on the following wiki page:
> 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds
> 
> (alternative directly via
> http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/milestones/4.1.0-rc4)
> 
> *.dmg files are currently not recognized as binaries and have to be
> saved manually (save link as ...).
> 
> The RC is based on the release branch AOO410, revision 1589052! And a
> fresh and clean RAT scan output of this revision can be found under
> 
> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/milestones/4.1.0-rc4/AOO4.1.0_RAT_Scan.html
> 
> Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0
> 
> The vote starts now and will be open until:
> 
>Monday, 28 April: 2014-04-28 10:00pm UTC+2.
> 
> But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like
> to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project
> members.
> 
>[ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0
>[ ]  0 Don't care
>[ ] -1 Do not release this package because...
> 
> 
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Do not drop languages in minor releases

2014-04-29 Thread Tal Daniel
On Tue, Apr 29, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

> I propose that, once a language reaches our release quality criteria
> (currently: UI translation at 100% and maintained), we do not drop it
> afterwards for the other minor releases.
>
> [...] I would remove unmaintained languages only when version 5.0 comes.
>

Seems reasonable, to me, Andrea, I'm not sure that removing a language on
major release should be so strict. What about removing a language only when
a MINIMUM% of it isn't translated (e.g., 10%)?


Re: [PROPOSAL] Do not drop languages in minor releases

2014-04-29 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 4/29/14 9:20 AM, Tal Daniel wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 29, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> 
>> I propose that, once a language reaches our release quality criteria
>> (currently: UI translation at 100% and maintained), we do not drop it
>> afterwards for the other minor releases.
>>
>> [...] I would remove unmaintained languages only when version 5.0 comes.
>>
> 
> Seems reasonable, to me, Andrea, I'm not sure that removing a language on
> major release should be so strict. What about removing a language only when
> a MINIMUM% of it isn't translated (e.g., 10%)?
> 

we had something like this before but defined a new rule to be 100% UI
complete and I think this is quite easy and a good rule.

The case Andrea described above should be more theoretical if an active
community is behind a translation. We released Arabic with 3.4 but there
was no active community and nothing happened later on.

I would still prefer the 100% rule. But anyway it's my personal opinion.

Juergen



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Re: [PROPOSAL] Do not drop languages in minor releases

2014-04-29 Thread jan i
On 29 April 2014 09:36, Jürgen Schmidt  wrote:

> On 4/29/14 9:20 AM, Tal Daniel wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 29, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> >
> >> I propose that, once a language reaches our release quality criteria
> >> (currently: UI translation at 100% and maintained), we do not drop it
> >> afterwards for the other minor releases.
> >>
> >> [...] I would remove unmaintained languages only when version 5.0 comes.
> >>
> >
> > Seems reasonable, to me, Andrea, I'm not sure that removing a language on
> > major release should be so strict. What about removing a language only
> when
> > a MINIMUM% of it isn't translated (e.g., 10%)?
> >
>
> we had something like this before but defined a new rule to be 100% UI
> complete and I think this is quite easy and a good rule.
>
> The case Andrea described above should be more theoretical if an active
> community is behind a translation. We released Arabic with 3.4 but there
> was no active community and nothing happened later on.
>
> I would still prefer the 100% rule. But anyway it's my personal opinion.
>
+1, not requiring 100% UI (which is quite easy to do for any translator) is
a dangerous path.

Nobody can today say when we do the next major release (5.x) meaning
translations < 100% could be ongoing for a long period. For a minor
release, its typically only a handful of messages that are changed, so it
not a big workload for any individual.

rgds
jan I



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Re: [RESULT][VOTE]: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 (RC4)

2014-04-29 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hello Jürgen!


3 binding +1 votes are necessary for the release. That means the ballot
closed successful to release the RC as AOO 4.1 Beta.

.

Sure?


this is a call for vote on releasing the available release candidate
(RC4) as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0.



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Re: [RESULT][VOTE]: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 (RC4)

2014-04-29 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 4/29/14 10:10 AM, Mathias Röllig wrote:
> Hello Jürgen!
> 
>> 3 binding +1 votes are necessary for the release. That means the ballot
>> closed successful to release the RC as AOO 4.1 Beta.
> .
> 
> Sure?

of course not, I read it so many times and still haven't noticed this.

It's definitely AOO 4.1.0 and the number of binding votes is 14. I
missed YueShen Fan and Kazunari Hirano as PMC members, sorry for that.

Juergen


> 
>>> this is a call for vote on releasing the available release candidate
>>> (RC4) as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0.
> 
> 
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need wiki help

2014-04-29 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
Hi,

our release notes are under
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1+Release+Notes

but the download page generates a link based on the complete version
4.1.0, means

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.0+Release+Notes

What is the best way to change the wiki page? Copy the page and preserve
both links because we have referenced the former link already from
several places.

Juergen

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Re: need wiki help

2014-04-29 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 4/29/14 11:23 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> our release notes are under
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1+Release+Notes
> 
> but the download page generates a link based on the complete version
> 4.1.0, means
> 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.0+Release+Notes
> 
> What is the best way to change the wiki page? Copy the page and preserve
> both links because we have referenced the former link already from
> several places.
> 

we have already several translation as sub pages, I think the best way
is to fix it directly on the download page...

Juergen


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Re: need wiki help

2014-04-29 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 29/04/2014 Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

our release notes are under
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1+Release+Notes
but the download page generates a link based on the complete version
4.1.0, means
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.0+Release+Notes


The best way is to use an alias (Insert - Other Macros). I tried but it 
isn't working for me. I don't know if I'm doing something wrong or if 
our cwiki has problems. I left the broken alias in the page, in case 
someone figures out how to do it properly (it's invisible unless one is 
editing the page anyway).


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: need wiki help

2014-04-29 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 4/29/14 12:18 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> On 29/04/2014 Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>>> our release notes are under
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1+Release+Notes
>>>
>>> but the download page generates a link based on the complete version
>>> 4.1.0, means
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.0+Release+Notes
>>>
> 
> The best way is to use an alias (Insert - Other Macros). I tried but it
> isn't working for me. I don't know if I'm doing something wrong or if
> our cwiki has problems. I left the broken alias in the page, in case
> someone figures out how to do it properly (it's invisible unless one is
> editing the page anyway).

as mentioned in my last mail I can fix it on the download page. In the
future we can take of it and can make the dependencies more clear. I
wasn't aware of this and was also surprised.

Juergen

> 
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
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Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 (RC4)

2014-04-29 Thread Jeongkyu Kim
+1 from Korean community!

Jeongkyu

On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 12:11 AM, Jürgen Schmidt  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> this is a call for vote on releasing the available release candidate
> (RC4) as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0.
>
> Apache OpenOffice 4.1 is a minor update with many bugfixes and at least
> 2 major improvements. It's the first version where we have the
> iAccessibility2 support integrated and available. A very huge step
> forward to reach and better support disabled users especially on
> Windows. The second improvement is the switch to 64 bit on MacOS. A long
> and overdue "must do" shift forward to support newer APIs (replace
> deprecated APIs)  and platforms on MacOS.
> And we can provide again more complete UI translations and have now
> support for 38 languages. New languages for this release compared to
> 4.0.1 are Bulgarian, Danish, Hebrew, Hindi, Norwegian Bokmal and Thai.
>
> Apache OpenOffice 4.1 will be a further key milestone to continue the
> success of OpenOffice.
>
> An overview of the integrated release issues can be found under:
>
> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/milestones/4.1.0-rc4/AOO4.1.0_RC4_fixes.html
>
> The RC4 fixed 2 further problems:
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124682
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124701
>
> RC3:
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124617
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124639
>
> RC2:
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124599
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124607
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124509
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124394
>
>
> The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary
> releases for 38 languages) and further information how to verify and
> review Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 can be found on the following wiki page:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds
>
> (alternative directly via
> http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/milestones/4.1.0-rc4)
>
> *.dmg files are currently not recognized as binaries and have to be
> saved manually (save link as ...).
>
> The RC is based on the release branch AOO410, revision 1589052! And a
> fresh and clean RAT scan output of this revision can be found under
>
> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/milestones/4.1.0-rc4/AOO4.1.0_RAT_Scan.html
>
> Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0
>
> The vote starts now and will be open until:
>
>Monday, 28 April: 2014-04-28 10:00pm UTC+2.
>
> But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like
> to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project
> members.
>
>[ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0
>[ ]  0 Don't care
>[ ] -1 Do not release this package because...
>
>
>
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[ANN] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 released

2014-04-29 Thread Juergen Schmidt
The Apache OpenOffice project is pleased to announce the immediate
availability of OpenOffice 4.1.0.  You can download it from our
website [1].

Apache OpenOffice 4.1 is a minor update with many bugfixes and 2 major
improvements. It's the first version where we have the
iAccessibility2 support integrated and available. A very huge step
forward to better support disabled users especially on Windows. The
second improvement is the switch to 64 bit on MacOS. A long
and overdue "must do" shift forward to support newer APIs and platforms
on MacOS.

And AOO 4.1.0 increases again the number of supported languages which is
now 38. The supported languages are Asturian, Bulgarian, Czech, Danish,
German, Greek, English (GB + US), Spanish, Basque, Finnish, French,
Scots Gaelic, Galician, Hebrew, Hindi, Hungarian, Italian, Japanese,
Khmer, Korean, Lithuanian, Norwegian Bokmal, Dutch, Polish, Portuguese,
Portuguese Brazil, Russian, Slovak, Serbian Cyrillic, Swedish, Tamil,
Thai, Turkish, Vietnamese, Chinese (Simplified + Traditional).

Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 will be a further key milestone to continue the
success of OpenOffice.

Details of new features and enhancements in this release are described
in the Release Notes [2].

Those interested in the source code can download it via the links on
this page [3].

Regards,

Juergen Schmidt, Apache OpenOffice Release Manager and member of the
Project Management Committee

[1] http://www.openoffice.org/download/

[2]
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1+Release+Notes

[3] https://openoffice.apache.org/downloads.html

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Re: [ANN] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 released

2014-04-29 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hello,

on  Juergen Schmidt wrote:
> The Apache OpenOffice project is pleased to announce the immediate
> availability of OpenOffice 4.1.0.  You can download it from our
> website [1]. 

> [...]



Please just to be sure: 

This is now (29.04.2014 13:50 MESZ) official? 

If so (I think this is so) then I'll update the de-website.


Jörg


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[RELEASE] urgent request - activation of Update Notification for our AOO 4.1.0 release

2014-04-29 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann

Hi,

I am in preparation of the activation of the update notification for our 
AOO 4.1.0 release for installed OpenOffice instances - versions 3.2.0, 
3.2.1, 3.3.0, 3.4.0, 3.4.1, 4.0.0 and 4.0.1


Here is the list of the languages whose users will be guided to a 
localized website from the update notification in OpenOffice:

- Czech http://www.openoffice.org/cs/download
- Germanhttp://www.openoffice.org/de
- Spanish   http://www.openoffice.org/es/descargar
- Frenchhttp://www.openoffice.org/fr/Telecharger
- Italian   http://www.openoffice.org/it/download
- Japanese  http://www.openoffice.org/ja/download
- Dutch http://www.openoffice.org/nl/downloaden.html
- Portuguese (European) http://www.openoffice.org/pt
- Slovakhttp://www.openoffice.org/sk/download
- Turkish   http://www.openoffice.org/tr
- Chinese (simplified)  http://www.openoffice.org/zh-cn
- Chinese (traditional) http://www.openoffice.org/zh-tw

As far as I can see the websites for the following languages need an 
update for AOO 4.1.0

- French
- Japanese
- Dutch

Request to all native speakers of the above languages:
- Please have a look, if the localilzed website is ok.
- Please update the localized website, if needed - esp. for French, 
Japanese and Dutch


My plan is to go live with the update notification for AOO 4.1.0 
tomorrow early afternoon (14:00 UTC+2).


Please leave my a note, if the one or the other localized website should 
be dropped or kept for the update notification.

Thanks in advance.


Best regards, Oliver.

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Re: [RELEASE] urgent request - activation of Update Notification for our AOO 4.1.0 release

2014-04-29 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann

Hi,

On 29.04.2014 14:09, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:

Hi,

I am in preparation of the activation of the update notification for our
AOO 4.1.0 release for installed OpenOffice instances - versions 3.2.0,
3.2.1, 3.3.0, 3.4.0, 3.4.1, 4.0.0 and 4.0.1

Here is the list of the languages whose users will be guided to a
localized website from the update notification in OpenOffice:
- Czechhttp://www.openoffice.org/cs/download
- Germanhttp://www.openoffice.org/de
- Spanishhttp://www.openoffice.org/es/descargar
- Frenchhttp://www.openoffice.org/fr/Telecharger
- Italianhttp://www.openoffice.org/it/download
- Japanesehttp://www.openoffice.org/ja/download
- Dutchhttp://www.openoffice.org/nl/downloaden.html
- Portuguese (European)http://www.openoffice.org/pt
- Slovakhttp://www.openoffice.org/sk/download
- Turkishhttp://www.openoffice.org/tr
- Chinese (simplified)http://www.openoffice.org/zh-cn
- Chinese (traditional)http://www.openoffice.org/zh-tw

As far as I can see the websites for the following languages need an
update for AOO 4.1.0
- French


While written the initial post, Rob has made an update for the French 
website. Please review the made changes.


Best regards, Oliver.


- Japanese
- Dutch

Request to all native speakers of the above languages:
- Please have a look, if the localilzed website is ok.
- Please update the localized website, if needed - esp. for French,
Japanese and Dutch

My plan is to go live with the update notification for AOO 4.1.0
tomorrow early afternoon (14:00 UTC+2).

Please leave my a note, if the one or the other localized website should
be dropped or kept for the update notification.
Thanks in advance.


Best regards, Oliver.


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How can I make the following change in the CMS?

2014-04-29 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hello, 

I just adjusted the German Home page, so far only in the staging area: 
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/de/index.html 

in which file I can, in the CMS, the line / link: 

"Apache OpenOffice 4.0.1 is available!" 

adapt to the above page?



Greetings,
Jörg


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Re: [ANN] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 released

2014-04-29 Thread Rory O'Farrell
Announced on en-Forum.


-- 
Rory O'Farrell 

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Re: [ANN] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 released

2014-04-29 Thread Jürgen Lange

Hello,

I have a problem installing Apache OpenOffice 4.1. I'm getting a NSIS-Error.

I'm using Windows 8.1. I downloades the german version, file size is 
161092 KB.


Kind regards
Jürgen



---
NSIS Error
---
Installer integrity check has failed. Common causes include
incomplete download and damaged media. Contact the
installer's author to obtain a new copy.

More information at:
http://nsis.sf.net/NSIS_Error
---
OK
---


Am 29.04.2014 13:11, schrieb Juergen Schmidt:

The Apache OpenOffice project is pleased to announce the immediate
availability of OpenOffice 4.1.0.  You can download it from our
website [1].

Apache OpenOffice 4.1 is a minor update with many bugfixes and 2 major
improvements. It's the first version where we have the
iAccessibility2 support integrated and available. A very huge step
forward to better support disabled users especially on Windows. The
second improvement is the switch to 64 bit on MacOS. A long
and overdue "must do" shift forward to support newer APIs and platforms
on MacOS.

And AOO 4.1.0 increases again the number of supported languages which is
now 38. The supported languages are Asturian, Bulgarian, Czech, Danish,
German, Greek, English (GB + US), Spanish, Basque, Finnish, French,
Scots Gaelic, Galician, Hebrew, Hindi, Hungarian, Italian, Japanese,
Khmer, Korean, Lithuanian, Norwegian Bokmal, Dutch, Polish, Portuguese,
Portuguese Brazil, Russian, Slovak, Serbian Cyrillic, Swedish, Tamil,
Thai, Turkish, Vietnamese, Chinese (Simplified + Traditional).

Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 will be a further key milestone to continue the
success of OpenOffice.

Details of new features and enhancements in this release are described
in the Release Notes [2].

Those interested in the source code can download it via the links on
this page [3].

Regards,

Juergen Schmidt, Apache OpenOffice Release Manager and member of the
Project Management Committee

[1] http://www.openoffice.org/download/

[2]
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1+Release+Notes

[3] https://openoffice.apache.org/downloads.html

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Re: [ANN] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 released

2014-04-29 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann

Hi,

On 29.04.2014 14:33, Jürgen Lange wrote:

Hello,

I have a problem installing Apache OpenOffice 4.1. I'm getting a
NSIS-Error.

I'm using Windows 8.1. I downloades the german version, file size is
161092 KB.



I have Windows 8.1 Enterprise running in a VM. I downloaded AOO 4.1.0 
German from www.openoffice.org and successfully installed the new 
release of AOO on this system.
I did not get any error message from NSIS or from MSI during the 
installation.


May be - as given in the NSIS error - the download failed on your attempt.


Best regards, Oliver.


Kind regards
Jürgen



---
NSIS Error
---
Installer integrity check has failed. Common causes include
incomplete download and damaged media. Contact the
installer's author to obtain a new copy.

More information at:
http://nsis.sf.net/NSIS_Error
---
OK
---


Am 29.04.2014 13:11, schrieb Juergen Schmidt:

The Apache OpenOffice project is pleased to announce the immediate
availability of OpenOffice 4.1.0.  You can download it from our
website [1].

Apache OpenOffice 4.1 is a minor update with many bugfixes and 2 major
improvements. It's the first version where we have the
iAccessibility2 support integrated and available. A very huge step
forward to better support disabled users especially on Windows. The
second improvement is the switch to 64 bit on MacOS. A long
and overdue "must do" shift forward to support newer APIs and platforms
on MacOS.

And AOO 4.1.0 increases again the number of supported languages which is
now 38. The supported languages are Asturian, Bulgarian, Czech, Danish,
German, Greek, English (GB + US), Spanish, Basque, Finnish, French,
Scots Gaelic, Galician, Hebrew, Hindi, Hungarian, Italian, Japanese,
Khmer, Korean, Lithuanian, Norwegian Bokmal, Dutch, Polish, Portuguese,
Portuguese Brazil, Russian, Slovak, Serbian Cyrillic, Swedish, Tamil,
Thai, Turkish, Vietnamese, Chinese (Simplified + Traditional).

Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 will be a further key milestone to continue the
success of OpenOffice.

Details of new features and enhancements in this release are described
in the Release Notes [2].

Those interested in the source code can download it via the links on
this page [3].

Regards,

Juergen Schmidt, Apache OpenOffice Release Manager and member of the
Project Management Committee

[1] http://www.openoffice.org/download/

[2]
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1+Release+Notes


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Re: [ANN] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 released

2014-04-29 Thread Jürgen Lange

Hello Oliver,

restarted the Download a second time and now installing is working. For 
3 downloads I've had three different file sizes (161089, 161092 ans 
161097). Strange.


Best regards, Jürgen

Am 29.04.2014 14:45, schrieb Oliver-Rainer Wittmann:

Hi,

On 29.04.2014 14:33, Jürgen Lange wrote:

Hello,

I have a problem installing Apache OpenOffice 4.1. I'm getting a
NSIS-Error.

I'm using Windows 8.1. I downloades the german version, file size is
161092 KB.



I have Windows 8.1 Enterprise running in a VM. I downloaded AOO 4.1.0 
German from www.openoffice.org and successfully installed the new 
release of AOO on this system.
I did not get any error message from NSIS or from MSI during the 
installation.


May be - as given in the NSIS error - the download failed on your 
attempt.



Best regards, Oliver.


Kind regards
Jürgen



---
NSIS Error
---
Installer integrity check has failed. Common causes include
incomplete download and damaged media. Contact the
installer's author to obtain a new copy.

More information at:
http://nsis.sf.net/NSIS_Error
---
OK
---


Am 29.04.2014 13:11, schrieb Juergen Schmidt:

The Apache OpenOffice project is pleased to announce the immediate
availability of OpenOffice 4.1.0.  You can download it from our
website [1].

Apache OpenOffice 4.1 is a minor update with many bugfixes and 2 major
improvements. It's the first version where we have the
iAccessibility2 support integrated and available. A very huge step
forward to better support disabled users especially on Windows. The
second improvement is the switch to 64 bit on MacOS. A long
and overdue "must do" shift forward to support newer APIs and platforms
on MacOS.

And AOO 4.1.0 increases again the number of supported languages 
which is

now 38. The supported languages are Asturian, Bulgarian, Czech, Danish,
German, Greek, English (GB + US), Spanish, Basque, Finnish, French,
Scots Gaelic, Galician, Hebrew, Hindi, Hungarian, Italian, Japanese,
Khmer, Korean, Lithuanian, Norwegian Bokmal, Dutch, Polish, Portuguese,
Portuguese Brazil, Russian, Slovak, Serbian Cyrillic, Swedish, Tamil,
Thai, Turkish, Vietnamese, Chinese (Simplified + Traditional).

Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 will be a further key milestone to continue the
success of OpenOffice.

Details of new features and enhancements in this release are described
in the Release Notes [2].

Those interested in the source code can download it via the links on
this page [3].

Regards,

Juergen Schmidt, Apache OpenOffice Release Manager and member of the
Project Management Committee

[1] http://www.openoffice.org/download/

[2]
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1+Release+Notes 




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Re: [RELEASE] urgent request - activation of Update Notification for our AOO 4.1.0 release

2014-04-29 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 8:12 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> On 29.04.2014 14:09, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am in preparation of the activation of the update notification for our
>> AOO 4.1.0 release for installed OpenOffice instances - versions 3.2.0,
>> 3.2.1, 3.3.0, 3.4.0, 3.4.1, 4.0.0 and 4.0.1
>>
>> Here is the list of the languages whose users will be guided to a
>> localized website from the update notification in OpenOffice:
>> - Czechhttp://www.openoffice.org/cs/download
>> - Germanhttp://www.openoffice.org/de
>> - Spanishhttp://www.openoffice.org/es/descargar
>> - Frenchhttp://www.openoffice.org/fr/Telecharger
>> - Italianhttp://www.openoffice.org/it/download
>> - Japanesehttp://www.openoffice.org/ja/download
>> - Dutchhttp://www.openoffice.org/nl/downloaden.html
>> - Portuguese (European)http://www.openoffice.org/pt
>> - Slovakhttp://www.openoffice.org/sk/download
>> - Turkishhttp://www.openoffice.org/tr
>> - Chinese (simplified)http://www.openoffice.org/zh-cn
>> - Chinese (traditional)http://www.openoffice.org/zh-tw
>>
>> As far as I can see the websites for the following languages need an
>> update for AOO 4.1.0
>> - French
>
>
> While written the initial post, Rob has made an update for the French
> website. Please review the made changes.
>

I also updated the Japanese and Finnish websites, languages I know
even more poorly than French.

I did this based on Google Analytics which showed a large number of
downloads of 4.0.1 still in these languages.

-Rob

> Best regards, Oliver.
>
>
>> - Japanese
>> - Dutch
>>
>> Request to all native speakers of the above languages:
>> - Please have a look, if the localilzed website is ok.
>> - Please update the localized website, if needed - esp. for French,
>> Japanese and Dutch
>>
>> My plan is to go live with the update notification for AOO 4.1.0
>> tomorrow early afternoon (14:00 UTC+2).
>>
>> Please leave my a note, if the one or the other localized website should
>> be dropped or kept for the update notification.
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>>
>> Best regards, Oliver.
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Re: How can I make the following change in the CMS?

2014-04-29 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 8:12 AM, Jörg Schmidt  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I just adjusted the German Home page, so far only in the staging area:
> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/de/index.html
>
> in which file I can, in the CMS, the line / link:
>
> "Apache OpenOffice 4.0.1 is available!"
>
> adapt to the above page?
>
>

That is in /de/branding.mdtext

You will probably need to  a few times to get to the "header"
field in the CMS where this data is stored.  Note the announce text
and announce URL fields.

Regards,

-Rob

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Re: [ANN] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 released

2014-04-29 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 4/29/14 2:56 PM, Jürgen Lange wrote:
> Hello Oliver,
> 
> restarted the Download a second time and now installing is working. For
> 3 downloads I've had three different file sizes (161089, 161092 ans
> 161097). Strange.

it's probably a good idea to check the md5 or any other checksum file to
verify the download

Juergen

> 
> Best regards, Jürgen
> 
> Am 29.04.2014 14:45, schrieb Oliver-Rainer Wittmann:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 29.04.2014 14:33, Jürgen Lange wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I have a problem installing Apache OpenOffice 4.1. I'm getting a
>>> NSIS-Error.
>>>
>>> I'm using Windows 8.1. I downloades the german version, file size is
>>> 161092 KB.
>>>
>>
>> I have Windows 8.1 Enterprise running in a VM. I downloaded AOO 4.1.0
>> German from www.openoffice.org and successfully installed the new
>> release of AOO on this system.
>> I did not get any error message from NSIS or from MSI during the
>> installation.
>>
>> May be - as given in the NSIS error - the download failed on your
>> attempt.
>>
>>
>> Best regards, Oliver.
>>
>>> Kind regards
>>> Jürgen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>> NSIS Error
>>> ---
>>> Installer integrity check has failed. Common causes include
>>> incomplete download and damaged media. Contact the
>>> installer's author to obtain a new copy.
>>>
>>> More information at:
>>> http://nsis.sf.net/NSIS_Error
>>> ---
>>> OK
>>> ---
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 29.04.2014 13:11, schrieb Juergen Schmidt:
 The Apache OpenOffice project is pleased to announce the immediate
 availability of OpenOffice 4.1.0.  You can download it from our
 website [1].

 Apache OpenOffice 4.1 is a minor update with many bugfixes and 2 major
 improvements. It's the first version where we have the
 iAccessibility2 support integrated and available. A very huge step
 forward to better support disabled users especially on Windows. The
 second improvement is the switch to 64 bit on MacOS. A long
 and overdue "must do" shift forward to support newer APIs and platforms
 on MacOS.

 And AOO 4.1.0 increases again the number of supported languages
 which is
 now 38. The supported languages are Asturian, Bulgarian, Czech, Danish,
 German, Greek, English (GB + US), Spanish, Basque, Finnish, French,
 Scots Gaelic, Galician, Hebrew, Hindi, Hungarian, Italian, Japanese,
 Khmer, Korean, Lithuanian, Norwegian Bokmal, Dutch, Polish, Portuguese,
 Portuguese Brazil, Russian, Slovak, Serbian Cyrillic, Swedish, Tamil,
 Thai, Turkish, Vietnamese, Chinese (Simplified + Traditional).

 Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 will be a further key milestone to continue the
 success of OpenOffice.

 Details of new features and enhancements in this release are described
 in the Release Notes [2].

 Those interested in the source code can download it via the links on
 this page [3].

 Regards,

 Juergen Schmidt, Apache OpenOffice Release Manager and member of the
 Project Management Committee

 [1] http://www.openoffice.org/download/

 [2]
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1+Release+Notes



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Re: How can I make the following change in the CMS?

2014-04-29 Thread Jörg Schmidt


on Tuesday, April 29, 2014 3:01 PM Rob Weir wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 8:12 AM, Jörg Schmidt
>  wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I just adjusted the German Home page, so far only in the staging
> > area: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/de/index.html
> > 
> > in which file I can, in the CMS, the line / link:
> > 
> > "Apache OpenOffice 4.0.1 is available!"
> > 
> > adapt to the above page?
> > 
> > 
> 
> That is in /de/branding.mdtext
> 
> You will probably need to  a few times to get to the "header"
> field in the CMS where this data is stored.  Note the announce text
> and announce URL fields. 

Thank you.

the updated de-page is now online:
http://www.openoffice.org/de/



Please a detail: 

I have the blog linked by: 
https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/date/20140429 

that will work, but is not quite right. 

How do I find the correct link to the post: 

"The Apache OpenOffice project announce the release of Apache OpenOffice 4.1"



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Re: How can I make the following change in the CMS?

2014-04-29 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 4/29/14 3:32 PM, Jörg Schmidt wrote:
> 
> 
> on Tuesday, April 29, 2014 3:01 PM Rob Weir wrote:
>> On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 8:12 AM, Jörg Schmidt
>>  wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I just adjusted the German Home page, so far only in the staging
>>> area: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/de/index.html
>>>
>>> in which file I can, in the CMS, the line / link:
>>>
>>> "Apache OpenOffice 4.0.1 is available!"
>>>
>>> adapt to the above page?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> That is in /de/branding.mdtext
>>
>> You will probably need to  a few times to get to the "header"
>> field in the CMS where this data is stored.  Note the announce text
>> and announce URL fields. 
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> the updated de-page is now online:
> http://www.openoffice.org/de/
> 
> 
> 
> Please a detail: 
> 
> I have the blog linked by: 
> https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/date/20140429 
> 
> that will work, but is not quite right. 
> 
> How do I find the correct link to the post: 
> 
> "The Apache OpenOffice project announce the release of Apache OpenOffice 4.1"

browse the blog entry and copy the link

https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/the_apache_openoffice_project_announce

Keep in mind that when you publish a page all pending changes will be
published as well. It is no local update of your changes only. Just as
reminder, it's a not so nice side effect of the CMS

Juergen

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Re: How can I make the following change in the CMS?

2014-04-29 Thread Jörg Schmidt

on Tuesday, April 29, 2014 3:45 PM Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> browse the blog entry and copy the link
> 
> https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/the_apache_openoffice_proje
> ct_announce 

mmh ... it is generally true that the part 
"the_apache_openoffice_project_announce" corresponds to what is specified in 
the source code of the page as id? 

I mean:

" " 
^^
 
> Keep in mind that when you publish a page all pending changes will be
> published as well. It is no local update of your changes only. Just as
> reminder, it's a not so nice side effect of the CMS


I hope it's safe if I commit and immediately see that the statig build is OK, 
that I _then publish the changes immediately_? 

What I mean is that I can watch the commit-process (by clicking on "[Follow 
Staging Build]") and see when it is ready and then when I publish within 1-2 
minutes, can happen in the meantime not much. 

That's right?


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Re: [ANN] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 released

2014-04-29 Thread FR web forum
Hello,
>it's probably a good idea to check the md5 or any other checksum file to
>verify the download
To this purpose, the url http://www.openoffice.org/download/checksums/
jump to outdated text files.
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Re: [ANN] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 released

2014-04-29 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 4/29/14 4:35 PM, FR web forum wrote:
> Hello,
>> it's probably a good idea to check the md5 or any other checksum file to
>> verify the download
> To this purpose, the url http://www.openoffice.org/download/checksums/
> jump to outdated text files.
> Where are we find this info?

I have never recognized this filers, they probably generated in some
way. For what do you need them and where is the link to this files?

Juergen

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Re: [ANN] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 released

2014-04-29 Thread Tal Daniel
FYI: at Sourceforge, the big green download button downloads the 4.0.1
version. It happened to me, and I almost installed 4.0.1 twice on my
computer.

Later, I noticed the dark red error message on the sourceforge page, which
states that "the 4.1.0/binaries/...86.exe file can't be found or isn't
available. ..."

I guess other users will find this annoying, and not all of them will find
the folder browsing any comfortable.

Other than that, Congratulations on the 4.1 release.
Thanks to all developers & users who reported, fixed, replied, ... to
support OpenOffice.

Tal




On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Juergen Schmidt  wrote:

> The Apache OpenOffice project is pleased to announce the immediate
> availability of OpenOffice 4.1.0.  You can download it from our
> website [1].
>
> Apache OpenOffice 4.1 is a minor update with many bugfixes and 2 major
> improvements. It's the first version where we have the
> iAccessibility2 support integrated and available. A very huge step
> forward to better support disabled users especially on Windows. The
> second improvement is the switch to 64 bit on MacOS. A long
> and overdue "must do" shift forward to support newer APIs and platforms
> on MacOS.
>
> And AOO 4.1.0 increases again the number of supported languages which is
> now 38. The supported languages are Asturian, Bulgarian, Czech, Danish,
> German, Greek, English (GB + US), Spanish, Basque, Finnish, French,
> Scots Gaelic, Galician, Hebrew, Hindi, Hungarian, Italian, Japanese,
> Khmer, Korean, Lithuanian, Norwegian Bokmal, Dutch, Polish, Portuguese,
> Portuguese Brazil, Russian, Slovak, Serbian Cyrillic, Swedish, Tamil,
> Thai, Turkish, Vietnamese, Chinese (Simplified + Traditional).
>
> Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 will be a further key milestone to continue the
> success of OpenOffice.
>
> Details of new features and enhancements in this release are described
> in the Release Notes [2].
>
> Those interested in the source code can download it via the links on
> this page [3].
>
> Regards,
>
> Juergen Schmidt, Apache OpenOffice Release Manager and member of the
> Project Management Committee
>
> [1] http://www.openoffice.org/download/
>
> [2]
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1+Release+Notes
>
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Re: [ANN] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 released

2014-04-29 Thread Tal Daniel
FYI: MD5 checksum isn't available from the download page.



On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 5:46 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

> On 4/29/14 4:35 PM, FR web forum wrote:
> > Hello,
> >> it's probably a good idea to check the md5 or any other checksum file to
> >> verify the download
> > To this purpose, the url http://www.openoffice.org/download/checksums/
> > jump to outdated text files.
> > Where are we find this info?
>
> I have never recognized this filers, they probably generated in some
> way. For what do you need them and where is the link to this files?
>
> Juergen
>
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Re: [ANN] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 released

2014-04-29 Thread FR web forum

>For what do you need them and where is the link to this files?
Because on the french forum, we provide tutorials to set install.
And we recommend to check it.

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Re: [RELEASE]: final preparation ....

2014-04-29 Thread Kay Schenk
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On 04/28/2014 06:18 PM, Keith N. McKenna wrote:
> Kay Schenk wrote:
>> On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Kay Schenk  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 12:12 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:
>>>
 On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Jürgen Schmidt 
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> assuming the vote for AOO 4.1 will pass successful today we should be
> prepared to have the final release bits in place.
>
> Pre release
> 1. upload the files to SF (I will take care of it)
> 2. prepare announcement email (I will take care of it)
> 3. update the download mechanism
> 4. wait until the official "go" for the release ;-) (all)
>
> Post release
> 1. release blog post
> 2. feeding social media

 I have 1 and 2 ready to go.

 -Rob

> 3. update the update mechanism
>
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> Juergen
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>>> ...and final editing of Release Notes
>>>
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1+Release+Notes
>>>
>>
>>
>> ummm.. .the BZ fixed bug search seems to be missing at this point  (??)
>>
>>
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>>>
>>> "Life is either a daring adventure, or nothing."
>>> -- Helen Keller
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> Kay;
> 
> I just checked the Release Notes and both links to the Bugzilla search
> resolve fine for me. Which one was giving you the problem?
> 
> Keith
> 
> 

The one that went to Bug fixes...it's fine now.

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2014-04-29 Thread Kay Schenk
None of the Mac builds are showing up in the other.html matrix. :(
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Re: How can I make the following change in the CMS?

2014-04-29 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Jörg Schmidt wrote:

on Tuesday, April 29, 2014 3:45 PM Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

browse the blog entry and copy the link

mmh ... it is generally true that the part 
"the_apache_openoffice_project_announce" corresponds to what is specified in 
the source code of the page as id?


OK, so let me guess... You are on https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/ and want 
to find the link to a particular post. The link is hidden within this 
sentence: "Posted at 11:23AM Apr 29, 2014 by"... the timestamp has the 
link to the full page, the one you want to use. It's just Roller.



I commit and immediately see that the statig build is OK, that I _then publish 
the changes immediately_?


Yes. Actually, keeping stuff in the "staging" area should not be done 
normally. We keep some files staged just before release, to be able to 
test, but the shortcoming Juergen explained (it's not possible to 
publish per dir) makes it useless to use the staging area for testing.


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Re: [PROPOSAL] Do not drop languages in minor releases

2014-04-29 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 04/29/2014 08:19 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

I propose that, once a language reaches our release quality criteria
(currently: UI translation at 100% and maintained), we do not drop it
afterwards for the other minor releases.

With the current criteria, even if only a few new strings appear in,
say, 4.2, this would mean that we have to drop the translations that are
not updated for 4.2. Ultimately, this would be confusing for users and
would mean that we lose an opportunity to involve new translators.

If, instead, we can consider the current 38 languages as "released in
OpenOffice 4.x" and we continue to add, and never remove, languages to
the list for all the 4.x series, this will be much better for users and
for our maintenance/infrastructure. I would remove unmaintained
languages only when version 5.0 comes.


Ah, I've a deja vu from the old OOo project. ;-)

There we had a similar problem to solve. It was agreed that 80% was 
enough for a language to get own install files.


But of course I don't want to propose that also today 80% is enough.

When we have just a handful of strings not localized, I don't care.
And if this results in just 99% or 98%, I don't care.

For me it starts with how many words are enough *and* how active the NL 
community is. E.g., if many are missing but there is a clear indication 
of activity, we should ask them for a status and how they want to fix 
the missing translation - or somehow in this way. And then act on the 
feedback.


However, to keep the 100% strict and therefore keep the eyes only on 
numbers is not helping here.


My 2 ct.

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Re: [PROPOSAL] Do not drop languages in minor releases

2014-04-29 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 04/29/2014 09:47 AM, schrieb jan i:

On 29 April 2014 09:36, Jürgen Schmidt  wrote:


On 4/29/14 9:20 AM, Tal Daniel wrote:

On Tue, Apr 29, Andrea Pescetti wrote:


I propose that, once a language reaches our release quality criteria
(currently: UI translation at 100% and maintained), we do not drop it
afterwards for the other minor releases.

[...] I would remove unmaintained languages only when version 5.0 comes.



Seems reasonable, to me, Andrea, I'm not sure that removing a language on
major release should be so strict. What about removing a language only

when

a MINIMUM% of it isn't translated (e.g., 10%)?



we had something like this before but defined a new rule to be 100% UI
complete and I think this is quite easy and a good rule.

The case Andrea described above should be more theoretical if an active
community is behind a translation. We released Arabic with 3.4 but there
was no active community and nothing happened later on.

I would still prefer the 100% rule. But anyway it's my personal opinion.


+1, not requiring 100% UI (which is quite easy to do for any translator) is
a dangerous path.

Nobody can today say when we do the next major release (5.x) meaning
translations<  100% could be ongoing for a long period. For a minor
release, its typically only a handful of messages that are changed, so it
not a big workload for any individual.


However, from the view point of a normal user who just wants to update 
to the next version, it would be confusing why no localized install file 
is available anymore.


So, from my side a clear +1 to keep these languages.

How much we allow to be under 100% is just a question of definition (and 
agreement). ;-)


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Re: need wiki help

2014-04-29 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 04/29/2014 11:30 AM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:

On 4/29/14 11:23 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

Hi,

our release notes are under
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1+Release+Notes

but the download page generates a link based on the complete version
4.1.0, means

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.0+Release+Notes

What is the best way to change the wiki page? Copy the page and preserve
both links because we have referenced the former link already from
several places.



we have already several translation as sub pages, I think the best way
is to fix it directly on the download page...


the real way to fix this is to fix the root cause - therefore in the 
wiki. Otherwise we just build something around the error. ;-)


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Re: Mac builds missing on http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html

2014-04-29 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 04/29/2014 07:10 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:

None of the Mac builds are showing up in the other.html matrix. :(


yes, because the platform changed - 32-bit --> 64-bit.

I'll take care of this.

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Re: [PROPOSAL] Do not drop languages in minor releases

2014-04-29 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Marcus (OOo)  wrote:
> Am 04/29/2014 09:47 AM, schrieb jan i:
>
>> On 29 April 2014 09:36, Jürgen Schmidt  wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/29/14 9:20 AM, Tal Daniel wrote:

 On Tue, Apr 29, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

> I propose that, once a language reaches our release quality criteria
> (currently: UI translation at 100% and maintained), we do not drop it
> afterwards for the other minor releases.
>
> [...] I would remove unmaintained languages only when version 5.0
> comes.
>

 Seems reasonable, to me, Andrea, I'm not sure that removing a language
 on
 major release should be so strict. What about removing a language only
>>>
>>> when

 a MINIMUM% of it isn't translated (e.g., 10%)?

>>>
>>> we had something like this before but defined a new rule to be 100% UI
>>> complete and I think this is quite easy and a good rule.
>>>
>>> The case Andrea described above should be more theoretical if an active
>>> community is behind a translation. We released Arabic with 3.4 but there
>>> was no active community and nothing happened later on.
>>>
>>> I would still prefer the 100% rule. But anyway it's my personal opinion.
>>>
>> +1, not requiring 100% UI (which is quite easy to do for any translator)
>> is
>> a dangerous path.
>>
>> Nobody can today say when we do the next major release (5.x) meaning
>> translations<  100% could be ongoing for a long period. For a minor
>> release, its typically only a handful of messages that are changed, so it
>> not a big workload for any individual.
>
>
> However, from the view point of a normal user who just wants to update to
> the next version, it would be confusing why no localized install file is
> available anymore.
>
> So, from my side a clear +1 to keep these languages.
>
> How much we allow to be under 100% is just a question of definition (and
> agreement). ;-)
>

We want quality releases.   % translation is part of quality, of
course.  But there are other aspects as well.  Certainly looking at %
completeness is easy for to measure, but it is not necessarily the
best criterion.

We want to avoid a situation where a translation is rushed and done
poorly, in order to meet an arbitrary % goal.  I'd rather have a high
quality 95% than a low quality 100%.

Of course, PMC members do not know all languages.  So we need to rely
on the translators and the local community.   Maybe we can make a
criterion from that?

For example:

If a translation is more than X% complete, AND if that language was
downloaded in the beta release more than Y times, AND the RC was
reviewed by the translator and Z other community members to vouch for
having usable level of quality, then we include it in a release.

Or some other way of having the local community take ownership of
making this decision.

-Rob


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Re: [ANN] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 released

2014-04-29 Thread Andrea Pescetti

FR web forum wrote:

To this purpose, the url http://www.openoffice.org/download/checksums/
jump to outdated text files.
Where are we find this info?


We expose only the relevant checksum when a user is downloading a file. 
It's the "MD5" (or SHA256, or whatever) link shown under the green box 
in http://www.openoffice.org/download/


If you want to see the checksum for a given file instead, you must browse
http://www.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.1.0/binaries/
for example: the MD5 checksum file for the Windows version in French is

http://www.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.1.0/binaries/fr/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.0_Win_x86_langpack_fr.exe.md5

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Re: [ANN] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 released

2014-04-29 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 04/29/2014 08:17 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

FR web forum wrote:

To this purpose, the url http://www.openoffice.org/download/checksums/
jump to outdated text files.
Where are we find this info?


We expose only the relevant checksum when a user is downloading a file.
It's the "MD5" (or SHA256, or whatever) link shown under the green box
in http://www.openoffice.org/download/

If you want to see the checksum for a given file instead, you must browse
http://www.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.1.0/binaries/
for example: the MD5 checksum file for the Windows version in French is

http://www.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.1.0/binaries/fr/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.0_Win_x86_langpack_fr.exe.md5


or browse to [1] to have every available file in one place.

[1] http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html

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How to update, commit and publish only a single file/directory? [WAS: Re: need wiki help]

2014-04-29 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 04/29/2014 03:45 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:

Keep in mind that when you publish a page all pending changes will be
published as well. It is no local update of your changes only. Just as
reminder, it's a not so nice side effect of the CMS


It seems this wonderful feature is unknown. So let me explain how to 
publish only your updates: :-)


The main point is *where you are* in the CMS Browse View when you click 
on the "Update" link.


Example to update and publish only a file:

1. In your browser open, e.g.,
   "www.openoffice.org/my-dir/my-subdir/index.html".
2. Open the CMS via the bookmarklet.
3. Click on the link "[Edit]" in the row of the "index.html" file.
4. Click on the link "[Update]".
5. Do your changes in the file.
6. Commit your changes.
7. On the following page click on the link "[Publish]".

Now only the changed "index.html" file is published.

Why? Because you have only updated this file in your local workspace 
repository on the Apache CMS server [1].


Example to update and publish only the content of a specific sub-dir:

1. In your browser open, e.g.,
   "www.openoffice.org/my-dir/my-subdir/".
2. Open the CMS via the bookmarklet.
3. Click on the link "[Update this directory]".
4. Do your changes in one or more files.
5. Commit your changes.
6. On the following page click on the link "[Publish]".

Now only the changed files in this directory are published.

Why? Because you have only updated this drectory in your local workspace 
repository on the Apache CMS server [1].


[1] You can see your local repo on the top right. Example:
marcus- > trunk > content > download > index.html

HTH

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Re: Server status: What's Up; What's Down?

2014-04-29 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 27/04/2014 Andrea Pescetti wrote:

Roller dies when we make a major announce


...and indeed https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/ (Roller) is now down.
502 Proxy Error

So the new infrastructure is probably better, but we must keep in mind 
that the traffic spike following a major announcement will still 
inevitably kill Roller.


On the contrary,
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1+Release+Notes
is alive and well (and I don't remember Confluence dying on the release 
days in general).


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Re: need wiki help

2014-04-29 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 04/29/2014 12:18 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

On 29/04/2014 Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

our release notes are under
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1+Release+Notes

but the download page generates a link based on the complete version
4.1.0, means
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.0+Release+Notes



The best way is to use an alias (Insert - Other Macros). I tried but it
isn't working for me. I don't know if I'm doing something wrong or if
our cwiki has problems. I left the broken alias in the page, in case
someone figures out how to do it properly (it's invisible unless one is
editing the page anyway).


Me too. Maybe the macro is not correctly configured.

- It's not listed in the sub-categories. Only when listing "All" or 
searching for it.
- When entering the term "@self" for telling to use the current webpage 
as root webpage, I get a list of files even not located in the AOO project.


I'll try to ask tomorrow my colleague @ work.

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Re: [ANN] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 released

2014-04-29 Thread Roberto Galoppini
2014-04-29 20:32 GMT+02:00 Marcus (OOo) :

> Am 04/29/2014 08:17 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
>
>> FR web forum wrote:
>>
>>> To this purpose, the url http://www.openoffice.org/download/checksums/
>>> jump to outdated text files.
>>> Where are we find this info?
>>>
>>
>> We expose only the relevant checksum when a user is downloading a file.
>> It's the "MD5" (or SHA256, or whatever) link shown under the green box
>> in http://www.openoffice.org/download/
>>
>> If you want to see the checksum for a given file instead, you must browse
>> http://www.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.1.0/binaries/
>> for example: the MD5 checksum file for the Windows version in French is
>>
>> http://www.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.1.0/binaries/fr/
>> Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.0_Win_x86_langpack_fr.exe.md5
>>
>
> or browse to [1] to have every available file in one place.
>
> [1] http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html
>
> Marcus
>

Marcus should we prevent other sites to point to AOO 4.1.0 downloads now?
Please advice asap.

Thanks,

Roberto



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Re: [ANN] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 released

2014-04-29 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Roberto Galoppini
 wrote:
> 2014-04-29 20:32 GMT+02:00 Marcus (OOo) :
>
>> Am 04/29/2014 08:17 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
>>
>>> FR web forum wrote:
>>>
 To this purpose, the url http://www.openoffice.org/download/checksums/
 jump to outdated text files.
 Where are we find this info?

>>>
>>> We expose only the relevant checksum when a user is downloading a file.
>>> It's the "MD5" (or SHA256, or whatever) link shown under the green box
>>> in http://www.openoffice.org/download/
>>>
>>> If you want to see the checksum for a given file instead, you must browse
>>> http://www.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.1.0/binaries/
>>> for example: the MD5 checksum file for the Windows version in French is
>>>
>>> http://www.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.1.0/binaries/fr/
>>> Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.0_Win_x86_langpack_fr.exe.md5
>>>
>>
>> or browse to [1] to have every available file in one place.
>>
>> [1] http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html
>>
>> Marcus
>>
>
> Marcus should we prevent other sites to point to AOO 4.1.0 downloads now?
> Please advice asap.
>

Whoops.  We forgot about that.  +1 to removing the block now that 4.1
is officially released!

-Rob

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>
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Re: [ANN] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 released

2014-04-29 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 04/29/2014 09:43 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini:

2014-04-29 20:32 GMT+02:00 Marcus (OOo):


Am 04/29/2014 08:17 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:


FR web forum wrote:


To this purpose, the url http://www.openoffice.org/download/checksums/
jump to outdated text files.
Where are we find this info?



We expose only the relevant checksum when a user is downloading a file.
It's the "MD5" (or SHA256, or whatever) link shown under the green box
in http://www.openoffice.org/download/

If you want to see the checksum for a given file instead, you must browse
http://www.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.1.0/binaries/
for example: the MD5 checksum file for the Windows version in French is

http://www.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.1.0/binaries/fr/
Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.0_Win_x86_langpack_fr.exe.md5



or browse to [1] to have every available file in one place.

[1] http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html

Marcus



Marcus should we prevent other sites to point to AOO 4.1.0 downloads now?
Please advice asap.


For me it was important to keep out "foreign" downloaders while we are 
in Beta mode or the final release is not yet public announced. For this 
IMHO the staging bit is working fine.


However, Andrea seems to have some further ideas.

@Andrea: Can you please take over?

Thanks

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Re: need wiki help

2014-04-29 Thread Keith N. McKenna
Marcus (OOo) wrote:
> Am 04/29/2014 12:18 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
>> On 29/04/2014 Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
 our release notes are under
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1+Release+Notes


 but the download page generates a link based on the complete version
 4.1.0, means
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.0+Release+Notes


>>
>> The best way is to use an alias (Insert - Other Macros). I tried but it
>> isn't working for me. I don't know if I'm doing something wrong or if
>> our cwiki has problems. I left the broken alias in the page, in case
>> someone figures out how to do it properly (it's invisible unless one is
>> editing the page anyway).
> 
> Me too. Maybe the macro is not correctly configured.
> 
> - It's not listed in the sub-categories. Only when listing "All" or
> searching for it.
> - When entering the term "@self" for telling to use the current webpage
> as root webpage, I get a list of files even not located in the AOO project.
> 
> I'll try to ask tomorrow my colleague @ work.
> 
> Marcus
Just an FYI in case it was not seen by others. There is now the
following text in the release notes where the alias has been set. "The
license could not be verified: There is no license certificate installed
for CustomWare Redirection Plugin for Confluence". I believe that it
will cause confusion among people reading it in that it appears with
absolutely no context just below the links to follow the project on
Twitter etc.

My first reaction would be to remove the alias until such time as we can
determine how to configure the macro properly. However not knowing the
impact it could have I felt it best to check in here first.

Regards
Keith



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Re: Server status: What's Up; What's Down?

2014-04-29 Thread Marcus (OOo)

FYI

The CMS builder is down again. When clicking on the "[Follow Staging 
Build]" link in CMS, I come to 
"http://ci.apache.org/builders/ooo-site-site-staging"; and the error 
message "503 Service Unavailable".


The status montioring webpage tells the same for the "aegis" server.

Marcus



Am 04/29/2014 09:06 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

On 27/04/2014 Andrea Pescetti wrote:

Roller dies when we make a major announce


...and indeed https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/ (Roller) is now down.
502 Proxy Error

So the new infrastructure is probably better, but we must keep in mind
that the traffic spike following a major announcement will still
inevitably kill Roller.

On the contrary,
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1+Release+Notes
is alive and well (and I don't remember Confluence dying on the release
days in general).

Regards,
Andrea.


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Re: [ANN] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 released

2014-04-29 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 29/04/2014 Marcus (OOo) wrote:

Am 04/29/2014 09:43 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini:

Marcus should we prevent other sites to point to AOO 4.1.0 downloads now?
Please advice asap.

For me it was important to keep out "foreign" downloaders while we are
in Beta mode or the final release is not yet public announced. For this
IMHO the staging bit is working fine.
However, Andrea seems to have some further ideas.
@Andrea: Can you please take over?


Actually this discussion became confusing at times, but we agree on 
this. I mean: now OpenOffice 4.1 was announced and we can let other 
sites link to our binaries too. Same as Rob wrote, same as you wrote.


Regards,
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Re: svn commit: r1591060 [12/15] - in /openoffice/trunk/main: helpcontent2/source/text/scalc/01/ helpcontent2/source/text/shared/01/ helpcontent2/source/text/simpress/01/ helpcontent2/source/text/smat

2014-04-29 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 07:12:03PM -, p...@apache.org wrote:
> Modified: 
> openoffice/trunk/main/offapi/com/sun/star/embed/XTransactionListener.idl
> URL: 
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/trunk/main/offapi/com/sun/star/embed/XTransactionListener.idl?rev=1591060&r1=1591059&r2=1591060&view=diff
> ==
> --- openoffice/trunk/main/offapi/com/sun/star/embed/XTransactionListener.idl 
> (original)
> +++ openoffice/trunk/main/offapi/com/sun/star/embed/XTransactionListener.idl 
> Tue Apr 29 19:11:53 2014
> @@ -41,21 +41,21 @@ module com {  module sun {  module star 
>   
>  
> //
>   
> -/** makes it possible to receive events when a transacted object is commited
> +/** makes it possible to receive events when a transacted object is committed
>   or reverted.
>   */
>  published interface XTransactionListener: 
> com::sun::star::lang::XEventListener
>  { 
>   
> //
> - /** is called just before the object is commited.
> + /** is called just before the object is committed.
>*/
>   void preCommit( [in] com::sun::star::lang::EventObject aEvent )
>   raises( ::com::sun::star::uno::Exception );
>  
>   
> //
> - /** is called after the object is commited.
> + /** is called after the object is committed.
>*/
> - void commited( [in] com::sun::star::lang::EventObject aEvent ); 
> + void committed( [in] com::sun::star::lang::EventObject aEvent ); 

This breaks the build and is an incompatible change in a published API.


Regards
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2014-04-29 Thread Pedro Giffuni

Fixed as of r1591100, thanks!.

Sorry, I knew some of this could happen.

Unfortunately AOO is broken with FreeBSD 10+ (clang/libc++ has bridge 
issues) so

my testing was limited. It also means I won't be doing much AOO in a while.

Pedro.

On 04/29/14 15:46, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:

On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 07:12:03PM -, p...@apache.org wrote:

Modified: 
openoffice/trunk/main/offapi/com/sun/star/embed/XTransactionListener.idl
URL: 
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/trunk/main/offapi/com/sun/star/embed/XTransactionListener.idl?rev=1591060&r1=1591059&r2=1591060&view=diff
==
--- openoffice/trunk/main/offapi/com/sun/star/embed/XTransactionListener.idl 
(original)
+++ openoffice/trunk/main/offapi/com/sun/star/embed/XTransactionListener.idl 
Tue Apr 29 19:11:53 2014
@@ -41,21 +41,21 @@ module com {  module sun {  module star
   
  //
   
-/** makes it possible to receive events when a transacted object is commited

+/** makes it possible to receive events when a transacted object is committed
or reverted.
   */
  published interface XTransactionListener: com::sun::star::lang::XEventListener
  {

//
-   /** is called just before the object is commited.
+   /** is called just before the object is committed.
 */
void preCommit( [in] com::sun::star::lang::EventObject aEvent )
raises( ::com::sun::star::uno::Exception );
  
  	//

-   /** is called after the object is commited.
+   /** is called after the object is committed.
 */
-   void commited( [in] com::sun::star::lang::EventObject aEvent );
+   void committed( [in] com::sun::star::lang::EventObject aEvent );

This breaks the build and is an incompatible change in a published API.


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Re: need wiki help

2014-04-29 Thread Juergen Schmidt
Am Dienstag, 29. April 2014 um 19:48 schrieb Marcus (OOo):
> Am 04/29/2014 11:30 AM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:
> > On 4/29/14 11:23 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >  
> > > our release notes are under
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1+Release+Notes
> > >  
> > > but the download page generates a link based on the complete version
> > > 4.1.0, means
> > >  
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.0+Release+Notes
> > >  
> > > What is the best way to change the wiki page? Copy the page and preserve
> > > both links because we have referenced the former link already from
> > > several places.
> > >  
> >  
> >  
> > we have already several translation as sub pages, I think the best way
> > is to fix it directly on the download page...
> >  
>  
>  
> the real way to fix this is to fix the root cause - therefore in the  
> wiki. Otherwise we just build something around the error. ;-)
>  
>  

sure I agree if this fix would be easy but it isn't or even don't work at the 
moment.

Juergen
>  
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Re: need wiki help

2014-04-29 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Keith N. McKenna wrote:

My first reaction would be to remove the alias until such time as we can
determine how to configure the macro properly.


Thanks, I removed my test since it's not working anyway. And we can 
definitely test the alias macro on a dedicated test page and not on the 
most visited page.


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  Andrea.

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Re: [ANN] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 released

2014-04-29 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Tal Daniel wrote:

FYI: at Sourceforge, the big green download button downloads the 4.0.1
version. It happened to me


This must be fixed in the SourceForge OpenOffice mirror project by those 
who can administer it. Note: if I remember correctly, this will trigger 
notification e-mails to people who are "following" the OpenOffice 
project on SourceForge.



Later, I noticed the dark red error message on the sourceforge page, which
states that "the 4.1.0/binaries/...86.exe file can't be found or isn't
available. ..."


If this is still happening (maybe it was related to cache or 
propagation) can you please give us the exact link from the download 
page to SourceForge? I.e., the target of the "Download Apache OpenOffice 
4.1.0" link?


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  Andrea.

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Re: Mac builds missing on http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html

2014-04-29 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 04/29/2014 07:53 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):

Am 04/29/2014 07:10 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:

None of the Mac builds are showing up in the other.html matrix. :(


yes, because the platform changed - 32-bit --> 64-bit.

I'll take care of this.


Fixed.

Marcus


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Re: [ANN] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 released

2014-04-29 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 04/29/2014 02:15 PM, schrieb Rory O'Farrell:

Announced on en-Forum.




BTW:
Time to create a "4.1.0" value for the "Version" field in BZ.

Marcus

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Re: Mac builds missing on http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html

2014-04-29 Thread Kay Schenk


On 04/29/2014 03:12 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
> Am 04/29/2014 07:53 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):
>> Am 04/29/2014 07:10 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
>>> None of the Mac builds are showing up in the other.html matrix. :(
>>
>> yes, because the platform changed - 32-bit --> 64-bit.
>>
>> I'll take care of this.
> 
> Fixed.
> 
> Marcus
> 
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Thank you!

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Re: [PROPOSAL] Do not drop languages in minor releases

2014-04-29 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 04/29/2014 07:57 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:

On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Marcus (OOo)  wrote:

Am 04/29/2014 09:47 AM, schrieb jan i:


On 29 April 2014 09:36, Jürgen Schmidt   wrote:


On 4/29/14 9:20 AM, Tal Daniel wrote:


On Tue, Apr 29, Andrea Pescetti wrote:


I propose that, once a language reaches our release quality criteria
(currently: UI translation at 100% and maintained), we do not drop it
afterwards for the other minor releases.

[...] I would remove unmaintained languages only when version 5.0
comes.



Seems reasonable, to me, Andrea, I'm not sure that removing a language
on
major release should be so strict. What about removing a language only


when


a MINIMUM% of it isn't translated (e.g., 10%)?



we had something like this before but defined a new rule to be 100% UI
complete and I think this is quite easy and a good rule.

The case Andrea described above should be more theoretical if an active
community is behind a translation. We released Arabic with 3.4 but there
was no active community and nothing happened later on.

I would still prefer the 100% rule. But anyway it's my personal opinion.


+1, not requiring 100% UI (which is quite easy to do for any translator)
is
a dangerous path.

Nobody can today say when we do the next major release (5.x) meaning
translations<   100% could be ongoing for a long period. For a minor
release, its typically only a handful of messages that are changed, so it
not a big workload for any individual.



However, from the view point of a normal user who just wants to update to
the next version, it would be confusing why no localized install file is
available anymore.

So, from my side a clear +1 to keep these languages.

How much we allow to be under 100% is just a question of definition (and
agreement). ;-)



We want quality releases.   % translation is part of quality, of
course.  But there are other aspects as well.  Certainly looking at %
completeness is easy for to measure, but it is not necessarily the
best criterion.

We want to avoid a situation where a translation is rushed and done
poorly, in order to meet an arbitrary % goal.  I'd rather have a high
quality 95% than a low quality 100%.


You should have replied to my other mail. ;-) It seems we have the same 
direction of the vision.



Of course, PMC members do not know all languages.  So we need to rely
on the translators and the local community.   Maybe we can make a
criterion from that?

For example:

If a translation is more than X% complete, AND if that language was
downloaded in the beta release more than Y times, AND the RC was
reviewed by the translator and Z other community members to vouch for
having usable level of quality, then we include it in a release.


Yes, sounds good.


Or some other way of having the local community take ownership of
making this decision.


What about to include another AND:

AND ZZ the language has recent activity on Pootle.

Even when the language is a bit far away from 100%, with activity on 
Pootle we can be sure (somehow) that the language is maintained.


Marcus


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English dictionaries - beta - 20140501

2014-04-29 Thread Marco A.G.Pinto

Hello my dear ones,

As the maintainer of the English dictionaries, I have released a beta of 
the dictionaries for people to test:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/30674540/ApacheOpenOffice41-DicTest-20140501.oxt

In this release I have included my most recent en_GB with around 4'000 
new words in the wordlist since I first grabbed the task last year.


I have also updated the en_US and en_CA with the wordlists sent to me by 
Kevin Atkinson on 2014-01-26.


I was thinking also about adding the en_NZ but I have been unable to 
contact the person who released it (Tristan Burtenshaw) since his e-mail 
no longer works and I found someone with his name on Facebook, sent a 
private message, and never received a reply.


My goal is to release a new extension in the beginning of June.

Thanks!

Kind regards,
  >Marco A.G.Pinto
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Do not drop languages in minor releases

2014-04-29 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 4/30/14 12:28 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
> Am 04/29/2014 07:57 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>> On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Marcus (OOo) 
>> wrote:
>>> Am 04/29/2014 09:47 AM, schrieb jan i:
>>>
 On 29 April 2014 09:36, Jürgen Schmidt   wrote:

> On 4/29/14 9:20 AM, Tal Daniel wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 29, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>>
>>> I propose that, once a language reaches our release quality criteria
>>> (currently: UI translation at 100% and maintained), we do not
>>> drop it
>>> afterwards for the other minor releases.
>>>
>>> [...] I would remove unmaintained languages only when version 5.0
>>> comes.
>>>
>>
>> Seems reasonable, to me, Andrea, I'm not sure that removing a
>> language
>> on
>> major release should be so strict. What about removing a language
>> only
>
> when
>>
>> a MINIMUM% of it isn't translated (e.g., 10%)?
>>
>
> we had something like this before but defined a new rule to be 100% UI
> complete and I think this is quite easy and a good rule.
>
> The case Andrea described above should be more theoretical if an
> active
> community is behind a translation. We released Arabic with 3.4 but
> there
> was no active community and nothing happened later on.
>
> I would still prefer the 100% rule. But anyway it's my personal
> opinion.
>
 +1, not requiring 100% UI (which is quite easy to do for any
 translator)
 is
 a dangerous path.

 Nobody can today say when we do the next major release (5.x) meaning
 translations<   100% could be ongoing for a long period. For a minor
 release, its typically only a handful of messages that are changed,
 so it
 not a big workload for any individual.
>>>
>>>
>>> However, from the view point of a normal user who just wants to
>>> update to
>>> the next version, it would be confusing why no localized install file is
>>> available anymore.
>>>
>>> So, from my side a clear +1 to keep these languages.
>>>
>>> How much we allow to be under 100% is just a question of definition (and
>>> agreement). ;-)
>>>
>>
>> We want quality releases.   % translation is part of quality, of
>> course.  But there are other aspects as well.  Certainly looking at %
>> completeness is easy for to measure, but it is not necessarily the
>> best criterion.
>>
>> We want to avoid a situation where a translation is rushed and done
>> poorly, in order to meet an arbitrary % goal.  I'd rather have a high
>> quality 95% than a low quality 100%.
> 
> You should have replied to my other mail. ;-) It seems we have the same
> direction of the vision.
> 
>> Of course, PMC members do not know all languages.  So we need to rely
>> on the translators and the local community.   Maybe we can make a
>> criterion from that?
>>
>> For example:
>>
>> If a translation is more than X% complete, AND if that language was
>> downloaded in the beta release more than Y times, AND the RC was
>> reviewed by the translator and Z other community members to vouch for
>> having usable level of quality, then we include it in a release.
> 
> Yes, sounds good.
> 
>> Or some other way of having the local community take ownership of
>> making this decision.
> 
> What about to include another AND:
> 
> AND ZZ the language has recent activity on Pootle.
> 
> Even when the language is a bit far away from 100%, with activity on
> Pootle we can be sure (somehow) that the language is maintained.

we should first streamline the process and have a better integration
process in place. Currently I am doing all then work but I am not
interested in doing more.

I will continue to integrate new languages and merge language back from
time to time but better would be if genlang can be finished (and I am
sure Jan needs help here and volunteers are welcome) or somebody else
steps up to support me ;-)

Juergen

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Re: [RELEASE] urgent request - activation of Update Notification for our AOO 4.1.0 release

2014-04-29 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann

Hi,

On 29.04.2014 14:58, Rob Weir wrote:

On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 8:12 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
 wrote:

Hi,


On 29.04.2014 14:09, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:


Hi,

I am in preparation of the activation of the update notification for our
AOO 4.1.0 release for installed OpenOffice instances - versions 3.2.0,
3.2.1, 3.3.0, 3.4.0, 3.4.1, 4.0.0 and 4.0.1

Here is the list of the languages whose users will be guided to a
localized website from the update notification in OpenOffice:
- Czechhttp://www.openoffice.org/cs/download
- Germanhttp://www.openoffice.org/de
- Spanishhttp://www.openoffice.org/es/descargar
- Frenchhttp://www.openoffice.org/fr/Telecharger
- Italianhttp://www.openoffice.org/it/download
- Japanesehttp://www.openoffice.org/ja/download
- Dutchhttp://www.openoffice.org/nl/downloaden.html
- Portuguese (European)http://www.openoffice.org/pt
- Slovakhttp://www.openoffice.org/sk/download
- Turkishhttp://www.openoffice.org/tr
- Chinese (simplified)http://www.openoffice.org/zh-cn
- Chinese (traditional)http://www.openoffice.org/zh-tw

As far as I can see the websites for the following languages need an
update for AOO 4.1.0
- French



While written the initial post, Rob has made an update for the French
website. Please review the made changes.



I also updated the Japanese and Finnish websites, languages I know
even more poorly than French.



Thanks Rob.

I will get my hands on the Dutch website. Please review the changes 
which I will make.


Best regards, Oliver.


I did this based on Google Analytics which showed a large number of
downloads of 4.0.1 still in these languages.

-Rob


Best regards, Oliver.



- Japanese
- Dutch

Request to all native speakers of the above languages:
- Please have a look, if the localilzed website is ok.
- Please update the localized website, if needed - esp. for French,
Japanese and Dutch

My plan is to go live with the update notification for AOO 4.1.0
tomorrow early afternoon (14:00 UTC+2).

Please leave my a note, if the one or the other localized website should
be dropped or kept for the update notification.
Thanks in advance.


Best regards, Oliver.



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[RELEASE]: missing Linux 64 bit language packs in AOO 4.1

2014-04-29 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
Hi,

I noticed that the Linux 64 bit language packs are missing in the AOO
4.1 release. I am currently pushing them on dist and SF to be available
later.

I am wondering why nobody have noticed this before. Because of a typo in
my scripts they were not available in the RC builds as well and nobody
have noticed this. Well they are for convenience only but I am still
wondering.

Juergen

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