Re: Build instructions

2020-02-15 Thread Mechtilde
Hello Pedro

Am 16.02.20 um 07:49 schrieb Pedro Albuquerque:
> Hi,
> 
> Sorry for a small change of topic, but speaking of new builds, I believe it
> would be great if the 'building instructions' for SDF files were also made
> available in a simple way to follow. Maybe included with the rest of the
> process.

This is the recent page, where I start to document the recent process:
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Translation_from_4.2

> Like Pedro Lino said, we (me and him) are trying to test the updated
> translations and it would be of great help if we knew how to create the SDFs.

In short you have to use po2oo from the translate-toolkit
http://docs.translatehouse.org/projects/translate-toolkit/en/latest/commands/oo2po.html?highlight=po2oo
(part of some linux distributions)

to improve the documentation of the translation process help is
appreciated. We can discuss it at
https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Translation_from_4.2=edit=1

> Mechtilde, that page link you sent some time ago is exactly where I found the
> gsicheck broken link, so it doesn't help much.

The gsicheck is only available in the code of AOO. So you need a build
environment to run the gsicheck. The link I mentioned is only for the
help part with the possible options.

If someone can help to isolate the code of gsicheck to have a standalone
tool, help is appreciated.
> 
> Patricia, I have a machine in those circumstances and, so far, the only thing
> I did was the default cygwin installation. I'm very interested in following
> your 'manual', should it be available.
> 
> Regards,
> Pedro Albuquerque

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Re[2]: Build instructions

2020-02-15 Thread Pedro Albuquerque
Hi,

Sorry for a small change of topic, but speaking of new builds, I believe it
would be great if the 'building instructions' for SDF files were also made
available in a simple way to follow. Maybe included with the rest of the
process.

Like Pedro Lino said, we (me and him) are trying to test the updated
translations and it would be of great help if we knew how to create the SDFs.

Mechtilde, that page link you sent some time ago is exactly where I found the
gsicheck broken link, so it doesn't help much.

Patricia, I have a machine in those circumstances and, so far, the only thing
I did was the default cygwin installation. I'm very interested in following
your 'manual', should it be available.

Regards,
Pedro Albuquerque


Em 15/02/2020 às 22:29, Patricia Shanahan  escreveu:
>Hi Matthias,
>
>We consistently lose programming volunteers when we ask them to attempt
>a build. That makes getting instructions that work, especially for
>Windows, the commonest platform, absolutely essential.
>
>On 2/15/2020 1:06 PM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
>> Hi Patricia,
>>
>> Am 15.02.20 um 20:36 schrieb Patricia Shanahan:
>>> I have learned enough about Git to attempt a new Windows build. I am
>>> building on a Windows 10 system, using the 64-bit Cygwin, and keeping
>>> detailed notes of any problems with the instructions.
>>>
>>> 1. I got very confused between what I should be getting from
>>>
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO#General_Build_Requirements
>>> and what from
>>>
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step#Build_with_Cygwin_64-bit
>>>
>>> The "general" had a lot of conditionals.
>>>
>>> I think it could be made easier to use if one could just start from
>>> the step-by-step and have it link to common web pages for anything
>>> that really is common.
>> +1
>
>This one I am not going to attempt myself because changes could affect
>other platforms that I am not using.
>
>>>
>>> 2. There is no /cygdrive/c/temp. /usr/tmp is a temporary directory.
>> /"(or any other temporary directory of your choice)"/
>
>The fix is to change it to "/usr/tmp (or other temporary directory of
>your choice)", though I am not sure why one would need an alternative to
>/usr/tmp.
>
>>>
>>> 3. Command "lynx -source
>>> rawgit.com/transcode-open/apt-cyg/master/apt-cyg > apt-cyg" failed
>>> because I had not been told to install lynx.
>>
>> I have never understood or used these instructions regarding lynx.
>
>Let's get rid of them. The closer we can get to one set of instructions
>that work the better. Cygwin's setup automatically installs
>dependencies, and is the normal way of installing Cygwin packages. One
>would need to use it to get lynx anyway.
>
>>
>>>
>>> Unclear how much can be omitted in this area if the required packages,
>>> and their dependencies, have already been installed through the Cygwin
>>> setup program, as will be the case if following the instructions. It
>>> is really necessary to provide an alternative?
>>>
>>> 4. http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=3138 gets
>>> an error page "We're sorry, this download is no longer available."
>>>
>>> At this point, I am officially stuck.
>>
>> As anyone else is, Microsoft has pulled that download long ago.
>>
>> (As you may remember, we wrote about that and I sent you a Dropbox link
>> where you can download it from)
>
>Yes, but I am modeling a new recruit trying to build AOO for the first
>time, using the latest instructions, on a machine that has not
>previously been used to build it. I really am using a computer I got
>after the last time I built AOO, and I am being very careful to follow
>the instructions as written, ignoring prior experience. My objective is
>as much to test the build instructions and get them fixed as to do the
>build.
>
>Do we understand why AOO building still requires an obsolete MSVC? Any
>way to fix it? This seems to me to be a particularly urgent build problem.
>
>Perhaps the best we can do here for now is to say "If you get to this
>point and do not already have Microsoft Windows SDK for Windows 7 and
>.NET Framework 3.5. SP1, send mail to dev@openoffice.apache.org to get
>your secret decoder ring."
>
>Thanks,
>
>Patricia
>
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Re: Build instructions

2020-02-15 Thread Patricia Shanahan

Hi Matthias,

We consistently lose programming volunteers when we ask them to attempt 
a build. That makes getting instructions that work, especially for 
Windows, the commonest platform, absolutely essential.


On 2/15/2020 1:06 PM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi Patricia,

Am 15.02.20 um 20:36 schrieb Patricia Shanahan:
I have learned enough about Git to attempt a new Windows build. I am 
building on a Windows 10 system, using the 64-bit Cygwin, and keeping 
detailed notes of any problems with the instructions.


1. I got very confused between what I should be getting from 
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO#General_Build_Requirements 
and what from 
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step#Build_with_Cygwin_64-bit


The "general" had a lot of conditionals.

I think it could be made easier to use if one could just start from 
the step-by-step and have it link to common web pages for anything 
that really is common.

+1


This one I am not going to attempt myself because changes could affect 
other platforms that I am not using.




2. There is no /cygdrive/c/temp. /usr/tmp is a temporary directory.

/"(or any other temporary directory of your choice)"/


The fix is to change it to "/usr/tmp (or other temporary directory of 
your choice)", though I am not sure why one would need an alternative to 
/usr/tmp.




3. Command "lynx -source 
rawgit.com/transcode-open/apt-cyg/master/apt-cyg > apt-cyg" failed 
because I had not been told to install lynx.


I have never understood or used these instructions regarding lynx.


Let's get rid of them. The closer we can get to one set of instructions 
that work the better. Cygwin's setup automatically installs 
dependencies, and is the normal way of installing Cygwin packages. One 
would need to use it to get lynx anyway.






Unclear how much can be omitted in this area if the required packages, 
and their dependencies, have already been installed through the Cygwin 
setup program, as will be the case if following the instructions. It 
is really necessary to provide an alternative?


4. http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=3138 gets 
an error page "We're sorry, this download is no longer available."


At this point, I am officially stuck.


As anyone else is, Microsoft has pulled that download long ago.

(As you may remember, we wrote about that and I sent you a Dropbox link 
where you can download it from)


Yes, but I am modeling a new recruit trying to build AOO for the first 
time, using the latest instructions, on a machine that has not 
previously been used to build it. I really am using a computer I got 
after the last time I built AOO, and I am being very careful to follow 
the instructions as written, ignoring prior experience. My objective is 
as much to test the build instructions and get them fixed as to do the 
build.


Do we understand why AOO building still requires an obsolete MSVC? Any 
way to fix it? This seems to me to be a particularly urgent build problem.


Perhaps the best we can do here for now is to say "If you get to this 
point and do not already have Microsoft Windows SDK for Windows 7 and 
.NET Framework 3.5. SP1, send mail to dev@openoffice.apache.org to get 
your secret decoder ring."


Thanks,

Patricia

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Re: Build instructions

2020-02-15 Thread Matthias Seidel
Hi Patricia,

Am 15.02.20 um 20:36 schrieb Patricia Shanahan:
> I have learned enough about Git to attempt a new Windows build. I am
> building on a Windows 10 system, using the 64-bit Cygwin, and keeping
> detailed notes of any problems with the instructions.
>
> 1. I got very confused between what I should be getting from
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO#General_Build_Requirements
> and what from
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step#Build_with_Cygwin_64-bit
>
> The "general" had a lot of conditionals.
>
> I think it could be made easier to use if one could just start from
> the step-by-step and have it link to common web pages for anything
> that really is common.
+1
>
> 2. There is no /cygdrive/c/temp. /usr/tmp is a temporary directory.
/"(or any other temporary directory of your choice)"/
>
> 3. Command "lynx -source
> rawgit.com/transcode-open/apt-cyg/master/apt-cyg > apt-cyg" failed
> because I had not been told to install lynx.

I have never understood or used these instructions regarding lynx.

>
> Unclear how much can be omitted in this area if the required packages,
> and their dependencies, have already been installed through the Cygwin
> setup program, as will be the case if following the instructions. It
> is really necessary to provide an alternative?
>
> 4. http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=3138 gets
> an error page "We're sorry, this download is no longer available."
>
> At this point, I am officially stuck.

As anyone else is, Microsoft has pulled that download long ago.

(As you may remember, we wrote about that and I sent you a Dropbox link
where you can download it from)

Regards,

   Matthias

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Build instructions

2020-02-15 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I have learned enough about Git to attempt a new Windows build. I am 
building on a Windows 10 system, using the 64-bit Cygwin, and keeping 
detailed notes of any problems with the instructions.


1. I got very confused between what I should be getting from 
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO#General_Build_Requirements 
and what from 
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step#Build_with_Cygwin_64-bit


The "general" had a lot of conditionals.

I think it could be made easier to use if one could just start from the 
step-by-step and have it link to common web pages for anything that 
really is common.


2. There is no /cygdrive/c/temp. /usr/tmp is a temporary directory.

3. Command "lynx -source 
rawgit.com/transcode-open/apt-cyg/master/apt-cyg > apt-cyg" failed 
because I had not been told to install lynx.


Unclear how much can be omitted in this area if the required packages, 
and their dependencies, have already been installed through the Cygwin 
setup program, as will be the case if following the instructions. It is 
really necessary to provide an alternative?


4. http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=3138 gets an 
error page "We're sorry, this download is no longer available."


At this point, I am officially stuck.

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Re: Building On CentOS 8 Dependency Help

2020-02-15 Thread Carl Marcum




On 2/15/20 9:44 AM, Peter Kovacs wrote:

We have updated to Gstreamer some time now. 0.1 is not supported anymore.

Minimum Java is 1.7 But I think it builds with latest 1.8


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Re: Building On CentOS 8 Dependency Help

2020-02-15 Thread Carl Marcum

Hi Mechtilde,

I could not find where you mean

packages.debian.org

Do you mean the Debian 12.04 section? I see a package list there.

I don't see anything about ORBit2 so I'll move on without that one.

Thanks,
Carl

On 2/15/20 10:03 AM, Mechtilde wrote:

hello,

I build AOO 4.2 sucessfully on Debian 9 aka Stretch.

under packages.debian.org you can look which version of the packages I used.

Yes I build succesfull with Java-8.

I couldn't build under Debian 10 aka buster with Java-11.

Kind regards

Mechtilde

Am 15.02.20 um 15:44 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

We have updated to Gstreamer some time now. 0.1 is not supported anymore.

Minimum Java is 1.7 But I think it builds with latest 1.8

Am 15.02.20 um 15:14 schrieb Carl Marcum:

Hi All,

Not sure if anyone has went down this road yet but I've installed
CentOS 8 with a Gnome desktop env, on a server of mine and would like
to build AOO 4.2 on it  or even 4.1.x if needed.
My starting point was the Building Guide section for Centos 7 for AOO
4.2.  [1]

I have the following repos enabled:
CentOS-8 - AppStream    9.1 kB/s | 4.3 kB
00:00
CentOS-8 - Base 8.0 kB/s | 3.8 kB
00:00
CentOS-8 - Extras   1.2 kB/s | 1.5 kB
00:01
CentOS-8 - PowerTools   8.5 kB/s | 4.3 kB
00:00
Extra Packages for Enterprise Linux Modular 8 -  27 kB/s |  12 kB
00:00
Extra Packages for Enterprise Linux 8 - x86_64   32 kB/s |  17 kB
00:00

But I'm not finding a few of the listed dependencies:

No match for argument: gnome-vfs2-devel
No match for argument: gstreamer-devel
No match for argument: gstreamer-plugins-base-devel
No match for argument: ORBit2-devel
Error: Unable to find a match: gnome-vfs2-devel gstreamer-devel
gstreamer-plugins-base-devel ORBit2-devel

I found that gstreamer 0.1 is no longer maintained and they suggest
1.0 series. [2]
Do we still need 0.1 for building.

It looks like gnome-vfs2 is superseded by GVfs [3] .
I have a number of gvfs-* packages installed already so I added
gvfs-devel.
Would this work ?

I see ORBit2 is used for CORBA.   I'm coming up blank on any CentOS 8
package.

Also, what minimum or better yet latest Java could I build 4.2 with?

Any help would be appreciated.

[1]
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step#CentOS_7_for_AOO_4.2.x_and_later

[2]
https://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/documentation/frequently-asked-questions/getting.html?gi-language=c

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GVfs

Thanks,
Carl

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Re: Building On CentOS 8 Dependency Help

2020-02-15 Thread Mechtilde
hello,

I build AOO 4.2 sucessfully on Debian 9 aka Stretch.

under packages.debian.org you can look which version of the packages I used.

Yes I build succesfull with Java-8.

I couldn't build under Debian 10 aka buster with Java-11.

Kind regards

Mechtilde

Am 15.02.20 um 15:44 schrieb Peter Kovacs:
> We have updated to Gstreamer some time now. 0.1 is not supported anymore.
> 
> Minimum Java is 1.7 But I think it builds with latest 1.8
> 
> Am 15.02.20 um 15:14 schrieb Carl Marcum:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Not sure if anyone has went down this road yet but I've installed
>> CentOS 8 with a Gnome desktop env, on a server of mine and would like
>> to build AOO 4.2 on it  or even 4.1.x if needed.
>> My starting point was the Building Guide section for Centos 7 for AOO
>> 4.2.  [1]
>>
>> I have the following repos enabled:
>> CentOS-8 - AppStream    9.1 kB/s | 4.3 kB
>> 00:00
>> CentOS-8 - Base 8.0 kB/s | 3.8 kB
>> 00:00
>> CentOS-8 - Extras   1.2 kB/s | 1.5 kB
>> 00:01
>> CentOS-8 - PowerTools   8.5 kB/s | 4.3 kB
>> 00:00
>> Extra Packages for Enterprise Linux Modular 8 -  27 kB/s |  12 kB
>> 00:00
>> Extra Packages for Enterprise Linux 8 - x86_64   32 kB/s |  17 kB
>> 00:00
>>
>> But I'm not finding a few of the listed dependencies:
>>
>> No match for argument: gnome-vfs2-devel
>> No match for argument: gstreamer-devel
>> No match for argument: gstreamer-plugins-base-devel
>> No match for argument: ORBit2-devel
>> Error: Unable to find a match: gnome-vfs2-devel gstreamer-devel
>> gstreamer-plugins-base-devel ORBit2-devel
>>
>> I found that gstreamer 0.1 is no longer maintained and they suggest
>> 1.0 series. [2]
>> Do we still need 0.1 for building.
>>
>> It looks like gnome-vfs2 is superseded by GVfs [3] .
>> I have a number of gvfs-* packages installed already so I added
>> gvfs-devel.
>> Would this work ?
>>
>> I see ORBit2 is used for CORBA.   I'm coming up blank on any CentOS 8
>> package.
>>
>> Also, what minimum or better yet latest Java could I build 4.2 with?
>>
>> Any help would be appreciated.
>>
>> [1]
>> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step#CentOS_7_for_AOO_4.2.x_and_later
>>
>> [2]
>> https://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/documentation/frequently-asked-questions/getting.html?gi-language=c
>>
>> [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GVfs
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Carl
>>
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Updated 4.2.0 build?

2020-02-15 Thread Pedro Lino
Hi Mechtilde

As Matthias mentioned we (Pedro Albuquerque and myself) would really like to 
run a build with the complete updated 4.2 Portuguese translation.
Would it be possible for you to commit an updated SDF for the Portuguese 
translation?
Alternatively please point me to a How-To so I can do it myself.

Thanks!

Kind regards,
Pedro

> On February 8, 2020 7:22 PM Matthias Seidel  
> wrote:
> 
>  
> Hi Mechtilde,
> 
> Am 08.02.20 um 20:07 schrieb Mechtilde:
> > Hello Pedro
> >
> > Am 08.02.20 um 15:29 schrieb Pedro Lino:
> >> Hi Matthias
> >>
> >> Is that fix on the 4.2 branch?
> >>
> >> Do you know if the 4.2 branch is synchronized with Pootle?
> > You can see it in the webfrontend.
> >
> > I updated pootle 3 weeks ago. It can't be done automatically.
> 
> Pedro didn't think of Pootle being synchronized with the branch.
> He wanted to know if the translations are already exported back to the
> branch...
> 
> Pedro is waiting for an updated Portuguese build! ;-)

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Re: Building On CentOS 8 Dependency Help

2020-02-15 Thread Peter Kovacs

We have updated to Gstreamer some time now. 0.1 is not supported anymore.

Minimum Java is 1.7 But I think it builds with latest 1.8

Am 15.02.20 um 15:14 schrieb Carl Marcum:

Hi All,

Not sure if anyone has went down this road yet but I've installed 
CentOS 8 with a Gnome desktop env, on a server of mine and would like 
to build AOO 4.2 on it  or even 4.1.x if needed.
My starting point was the Building Guide section for Centos 7 for AOO 
4.2.  [1]


I have the following repos enabled:
CentOS-8 - AppStream    9.1 kB/s | 4.3 kB 
00:00
CentOS-8 - Base 8.0 kB/s | 3.8 kB 
00:00
CentOS-8 - Extras   1.2 kB/s | 1.5 kB 
00:01
CentOS-8 - PowerTools   8.5 kB/s | 4.3 kB 
00:00
Extra Packages for Enterprise Linux Modular 8 -  27 kB/s |  12 kB 
00:00
Extra Packages for Enterprise Linux 8 - x86_64   32 kB/s |  17 kB 
00:00


But I'm not finding a few of the listed dependencies:

No match for argument: gnome-vfs2-devel
No match for argument: gstreamer-devel
No match for argument: gstreamer-plugins-base-devel
No match for argument: ORBit2-devel
Error: Unable to find a match: gnome-vfs2-devel gstreamer-devel 
gstreamer-plugins-base-devel ORBit2-devel


I found that gstreamer 0.1 is no longer maintained and they suggest 
1.0 series. [2]

Do we still need 0.1 for building.

It looks like gnome-vfs2 is superseded by GVfs [3] .
I have a number of gvfs-* packages installed already so I added 
gvfs-devel.

Would this work ?

I see ORBit2 is used for CORBA.   I'm coming up blank on any CentOS 8 
package.


Also, what minimum or better yet latest Java could I build 4.2 with?

Any help would be appreciated.

[1] 
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step#CentOS_7_for_AOO_4.2.x_and_later
[2] 
https://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/documentation/frequently-asked-questions/getting.html?gi-language=c

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GVfs

Thanks,
Carl

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Building On CentOS 8 Dependency Help

2020-02-15 Thread Carl Marcum

Hi All,

Not sure if anyone has went down this road yet but I've installed CentOS 
8 with a Gnome desktop env, on a server of mine and would like to build 
AOO 4.2 on it  or even 4.1.x if needed.
My starting point was the Building Guide section for Centos 7 for AOO 
4.2.  [1]


I have the following repos enabled:
CentOS-8 - AppStream    9.1 kB/s | 4.3 kB 00:00
CentOS-8 - Base 8.0 kB/s | 3.8 kB 00:00
CentOS-8 - Extras   1.2 kB/s | 1.5 kB 00:01
CentOS-8 - PowerTools   8.5 kB/s | 4.3 kB 00:00
Extra Packages for Enterprise Linux Modular 8 -  27 kB/s |  12 kB 00:00
Extra Packages for Enterprise Linux 8 - x86_64   32 kB/s |  17 kB 00:00

But I'm not finding a few of the listed dependencies:

No match for argument: gnome-vfs2-devel
No match for argument: gstreamer-devel
No match for argument: gstreamer-plugins-base-devel
No match for argument: ORBit2-devel
Error: Unable to find a match: gnome-vfs2-devel gstreamer-devel 
gstreamer-plugins-base-devel ORBit2-devel


I found that gstreamer 0.1 is no longer maintained and they suggest 1.0 
series. [2]

Do we still need 0.1 for building.

It looks like gnome-vfs2 is superseded by GVfs [3] .
I have a number of gvfs-* packages installed already so I added gvfs-devel.
Would this work ?

I see ORBit2 is used for CORBA.   I'm coming up blank on any CentOS 8 
package.


Also, what minimum or better yet latest Java could I build 4.2 with?

Any help would be appreciated.

[1] 
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step#CentOS_7_for_AOO_4.2.x_and_later
[2] 
https://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/documentation/frequently-asked-questions/getting.html?gi-language=c

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GVfs

Thanks,
Carl

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