Unofficial photos ApacheCon 2015

[Michal Hriň]

Hi all,

there are some (not very good) photos from ApacheCon.

I reorganized a little, so year 2014

https://www.flickr.com/photos/101590593@N06/albums/72157659502690085

and this year 2015

https://www.flickr.com/photos/101590593@N06/albums/72157659470015452

If you browse around my profile, you can find there photos from my
Friday walk around the downtown.

Redards,
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Re: Windows testing builds

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>> Why --disable-odk? Any specific reason for that?

No, I wanted only to speed up build process. Next time I can remove
this option.

>> Do you have access to the buildbot? ...

No ? I have only access to "buildbots config file".

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Re: Windows testing builds

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Hello, for his builds configure options are:

 ./configure
--with-build-version="$(date +"%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S %z (%a, %d %b%Y)")"
--with-dmake-url="
http://dmake.apache-extras.org.codespot.com/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2";
--enable-win-x64-shellext
--with-cl-home="/cygdrive/c/PROGRA~2/MICROS~1.0/VC"
--with-mspdb-path="/cygdrive/c/PROGRA~2/MICROS~1.0/Common7/IDE"
--with-frame-home="/cygdrive/c/PROGRA~1/MICROS~1/Windows/v7.0"
--with-psdk-home="/cygdrive/c/PROGRA~1/MICROS~1/Windows/v7.0"
--with-midl-path="/cygdrive/c/PROGRA~1/MICROS~1/Windows/v7.0/Bin"
--with-asm-home="/cygdrive/c/PROGRA~2/MICROS~1.0/VC/bin"
--with-csc-path="/cygdrive/c/Windows/MICROS~1.NET/FRAMEW~1/v3.5"
--with-directx-home="/cygdrive/c/PROGRA~2/MICROS~1"
--with-jdk-home="/cygdrive/c/PROGRA~2/Java/JDK17~1.0_8"
--with-ant-home="/cygdrive/c/APACHE~1.6"
--with-lang="en-US fr de it en-GB es ru pl lt pt"
--enable-category-b
--enable-bundled-dictionaries
--enable-verbose
--with-package-format="installed msi"
--without-junit
--disable-odk
--without-stlport
--with-mozilla-build="/cygdrive/c/MOZILL~1"
--with-atl-include-dir="C:/WinDDK/7600.16385.1/inc/atl71"
--with-atl-lib-dir="C:/WinDDK/7600.16385.1/lib/ATL/i386"
--with-mfc-include-dir="C:/WinDDK/7600.16385.1/inc/mfc42"
--with-mfc-lib-dir="C:/WinDDK/7600.16385.1/lib/Mfc/i386"


In compare to buildbots, last four lines are added to my options and
"disable-odk" and "with-package-format".
I am using Visual C++ 2008 compiler (it talks that it is compiler from
Visual Studio Standard) compiler bundled with Windows SDK 7.0, while
buildbots has Windows SDK 6.1. I have Java 7 budilbots has Java 6. It
looks like that on buildbot is payed version of Visual Studio
(Proffesional).

This is all I think.


I looked a little around version number. Somwhere in the future I can
try to change it. :)


Regards,
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Windows testing builds

[Michal Hriň]

Hi,

new Windows builds for testing are available on

http://people.apache.org/~hrin/snapshots/


Because builds has same version number as 4.1.1, please remove original
4.1.1 version before installing.

More languages will be available in the next build.


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Can't access to "people" with SSH (was: [NOTICE] Windows build machine setted up)

[Michal Hriň]

you wrote you had uploaded the SSH keys to id.apache.org, that is a
good
first step.Next a couple of questions:
- which terminal program do you use ?
I use putty, and had to generate the keys with puttygen, you also have
to
remember to
configure the terminal program to use SSH (not telnet) and give a path
to
your part of the key.

- What exactly happens ? is your key rejected or do you get some kind
of
key error ?



I am using graphical terminal emulator xfce-terminal, bash and openssh
6.9p1 ...

so I need to generate keys : ssh-keygen -t rsa
Done.

Now I need to start agent and give to it keys:
ssh-agent
ssh-add

I can check if the agent has keys with:
ssh-add -L
ssh-add -l

Now I am going to id webadmin and copy paste here public ssh-key.

I am awiting that I can connect:
ssh myid@people... or
ssh -2 myid@people... to force v2 protocol.

The output is:
--
Note: logging in to this server with a password has been disabled. 

Please see : 
https://blogs.apache.org/infra/entry/committer_shell_access_to_people

Remember to load your ssh key:-

See: http://linux.die.net/man/1/ssh-add  ;
See: http://linux.die.net/man/1/ssh-agent

Permission denied (publickey).
--

I remembered that, I had setted up keys connection some years ago,
nowadays I do not have old keys. In that time I had to copy my public
key, to .ssh/authorized_keys file on people machine. Now I am not able
to do this. Maybe this is the problem.

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Re: [NOTICE] Windows build machine setted up

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BTW:
Do you still have the access problem with your people@a.o account? If 
so, we (maybe together with Infra) should solve this. Then you can save
the binaries there to indicate that the work comes from an AOO
committer 
and not from somewhere else.



Yes, I have still this problems. Solving this will be great. Thanks !




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[NOTICE] Windows build machine setted up

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Thanks for providing a binary, but I am a bit concerned that a version
is
made public, before the PMC have even spoken about being ready to make
a
release candidate or started voting on a release candidate.

Is this coordinated with the release manager for 4.1.2 ?

Please do not misunderstand me, I think it is great that work is being
done, I am just surprised we are ready to go public with 4.1.2 even as
a
pre-view.



OK. Binary is deleted.

This was not coordinated, that was only snapshot .. not release
candidate. All in all Linux 32bit builds from AOO410 branch are on
buildbots, so everybody can downlaod it, this is not secret.

Sorry, that I was excited and want to show it publically.






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Re: [NOTICE] Windows build machine setted up

[Michal Hriň]

V Štvrtok,  6. august 2015 o 10:22 +0200, Michal Hriň napísal(a):
> Hi all,
> 
> finally I setted up Windows machine for dev builds.
> I have compiled build from AOO410 branch, for this time only in US 
> and
> sk language.
> 
> If nobody have better solution, I can prepare test builds.
> 
> The only problem is that I cannot access people.a.o machine, I have
> generated ssh keys and uploaded public key to my id, but connection 
> is
> still refused.
> 
> I can upload builds to OneDrive or to our own server, but it has
> limitted bandwith so somebody need to copy it, to Apache machines (it
> can't be used for massive downloading).

If somebody would like to try en-US 4.1.2 Early Preview

https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=9CF40FA60FBDCD!293&authkey=!AP86Q
1h_P__6LjI&ithint=file%2cexe

> 
> 
> Jan - could you sent to me in private step-by-step guide for dummy
> about digital signing ? I can play a little with it. (for example 
> with
> self generated certificate)
> 
> 
> Thanks everybody!
> 
> Regards wih wishing good day,
> Michal Hriň
> 
> 
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[NOTICE] Windows build machine setted up

[Michal Hriň]

Hi all,

finally I setted up Windows machine for dev builds.
I have compiled build from AOO410 branch, for this time only in US and
sk language.

If nobody have better solution, I can prepare test builds.

The only problem is that I cannot access people.a.o machine, I have
generated ssh keys and uploaded public key to my id, but connection is
still refused.

I can upload builds to OneDrive or to our own server, but it has
limitted bandwith so somebody need to copy it, to Apache machines (it
can't be used for massive downloading).


Jan - could you sent to me in private step-by-step guide for dummy
about digital signing ? I can play a little with it. (for example with
self generated certificate)


Thanks everybody!

Regards wih wishing good day,
Michal Hriň





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[BUILD] Error "comphelper" module

[Michal Hriň]

Hi all,

I'm trying to build AOO on Windows (7) and I still have problem with
"comphelper" module.

Error:

=
Building module comphelper
=

Entering /home/community/aoo-4.1.1/main/comphelper/prj

cd .. && make -s -r -j1   && make -s -r deliverlog
[ info  ALL ] LinkTarget Library/isal.lib not defined: Assuming headers
to be there!
[ info  ALL ] LinkTarget Library/icppuhelper.lib not defined: Assuming
headers to be there!
[ info  ALL ] LinkTarget Library/icppu.lib not defined: Assuming
headers to be there!
[ info  ALL ] LinkTarget Library/iucbhelper.lib not defined: Assuming
headers to be there!
[ info  ALL ] LinkTarget Library/ivos.lib not defined: Assuming headers
to be there!
[ info  ALL ] LinkTarget Library/msvcprt.lib not defined: Assuming
headers to be there!
[ info  ALL ] LinkTarget Library/uwinapi.lib not defined: Assuming
headers to be there!
[ info  ALL ] LinkTarget Library/kernel32.lib not defined: Assuming
headers to be there!
[ info  ALL ] LinkTarget Library/msvcrt.lib not defined: Assuming
headers to be there!
[ info  ALL ] LinkTarget Library/oldnames.lib not defined: Assuming
headers to be there!
[ build PKG ] comphelper_inc
[ build DEP ] LNK:Library/icomphelp.lib
[ build RES ] comphelper/default
[ build RES ]
awk: fatal: can't open source file
`C:/cygwinc:/cygwin/home/community/aoo
-4.1.1/main/solenv/gbuild/processdeps.awk' for reading (No such file or
directory)
C:/cygwin/home/community/aoo
-4.1.1/main/solenv/gbuild/WinResTarget.mk:59: recipe for target
'/home/community/aoo
-4.1.1/main/solver/411/wntmsci12.pro/workdir/WinResTarget/comphelper/de
fault.res' failed
make: *** [/home/community/aoo
-4.1.1/main/solver/411/wntmsci12.pro/workdir/WinResTarget/comphelper/de
fault.res] Error 2
dmake:  Error code 2, while making 'all'



Here is configure options:

 ./configure --with-dmake-url="
http://dmake.apache-extras.org.codespot.com/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2"; -
-with-ant-home="/cygdrive/c/apache-ant-1.9.6" --with-frame
-home="/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Microsoft SDKs/Windows/v6.1" --with
-psdk-home="/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Microsoft SDKs/Windows/v6.1" -
-with-midl-path="/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Microsoft
SDKs/Windows/v6.1/Bin" --with-cl-home="/cygdrive/c/Program Files
(x86)/Microsoft Visual Studio 9.0/VC"  --with-mspdb
-path="/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Microsoft Visual Studio
9.0/Common7/IDE" --with-asm-home="/cygdrive/c/Program Files
(x86)/Microsoft Visual Studio 9.0/VC/bin" --with-csc
-path="/cygdrive/c/Windows/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v3.5" --with-jdk
-home="/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Java/jdk1.7.0_80"  --with-nsis
-path="/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/NSIS" --with-directx
-home="/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Microsoft DirectX SDK (June
2010)" --disable-atl --with-package-format="installed msi" --enable-win
-x64-shellext --with-lang="sk" --without-stlport --without-junit -
-disable-odk --with-mfc-include-dir="C:/WinDDK/7600.16385.1/inc/mfc42" 
--with-mfc-lib-dir="C:/WinDDK/7600.16385.1/lib/Mfc/i386"

I am trying more versions of Windows SDK (6.1, 7.0 or 7.0A), I have C++
Compiler bundled with SDK, this means MSVC++ 2008.

I have no more ideas.
Can sombody help me ?

Thanks!

Regards,
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Release Manager for 4.1.2

[Michal Hriň]

If needed, I can try to set-up Windows machine for builds. But I'm not
very familiar with digital singing (and to be honest I never finish
Windows build, but I tried to build it with MSVC2012).

Maybe I can help with patch integration but I lack knowleage in this
area too.

What about ACEU hackaton ? :)

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Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

[Michal Hriň]

V Piatok, 30. január 2015 o 19:52 +0100, Andrea Pescetti napísal(a):
> Who of the two candidates do you prefer to replace Andrea Pescetti as 
> the OpenOffice project PMC Chair?
> [ ] Dennis E. Hamilton (orcmid)

[X] Jan Iversen (jani) (non-binding)

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Re: Short-term priorities for OpenOffice

[Michal Hriň]

Sent from Android (non biding)

To the #1,2,3. I expressed my thaughts earlier, and once more we cannot do 
nothing uf we cannot harm asf rules. Majority of people with rights to decide 
how project will go, are sleepy and disagree with everything.

#4 have some ideas on my head , need dictionary :)

#5 ok. If we still didnt have buildbots setted up. I  can provide my cpu time 
and bandwith to provide linux packages.

Mh


Andrea Pescetti napísal/a:

>I see five short-term (say, something that must be either done or put 
>towards completion by end of February) priorities for OpenOffice as a 
>project. They overlap, and we, especially the PMC, need to agree on how 
>to order them, otherwise we risk pulling in different directions and 
>mutually blocking the initiatives from others.
>
>1) Election a new PMC Chair (the Chair has one, and clearly defined, 
>role: being the liaison officer between the OpenOffice PMC and Apache; 
>he/she can do much more, and I have been doing much more and I'll still 
>continue with the rest; but this is not part of the Chair duties).
>
>2) Internal reorganization: people say what they are going to do to 
>drive the project forward (so an "active" approach rather than the "I 
>don't have time, but someone should..." approach which is not working).
>
>3) Re-alignment between PMC and active community (the PMC, not the 
>Chair, steers the project; so people who work must be in the PMC and 
>people in the PMC should confirm they are still interested in being there).
>
>4) External reorganization: decide how we see OpenOffice as part of a 
>larger ecosystem, so what we can do in terms of collaboration with other 
>projects that are from Apache or from outside Apache.
>
>5) Release OpenOffice 4.1.2 (all of this must produce something for our 
>users!). This has a number of significant subtasks and preliminary tasks 
>(Release manager, digital signing...) but it would be pointless to 
>address them now.
>
>I'm asking for consensus, especially from PMC members, that we can carry 
>forward these 5 actions in the order I used above. I know you might have 
>different priorities, but if we manage to get these 5 items tabled we 
>can get rid of the "I see other priorities" blocker. Note that, if we 
>act responsibly and we are determined, we could start a new item (of the 
>5) every week, so by the end of February we can find an answer or a 
>roadmap for everything listed above.
>
>Do you agree with this scheduling? If it's a "no", please say it now 
>(and please give an alternative, otherwise we can't move), but if we 
>have a large majority of "yes" I'll move forward according to this plan.
>
>Regards,
>   Andrea.
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Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

[Michal Hriň]

I thing that, is good time to express my frustration in project. Louis is 
perfect candidate for chair, I had oportunity to met him in person, and he is 
so polite, an has new ideas on his mind. 

Everyone of you disaccept nominations, nobody of you didnt nominated candidates 
but all of you disagree.

I m sorry for my broken English.

So if you want new voting, I nominating myself as a chair, as a competitor for 
Louis an Kay?

Stop this discussion about nothing, Louis is a chair for me now, whenever. 

So be thankfull for Louis that wants to do this yob.

And remember, lists are public, so this confusing do not putting a great 
meaning another people.


MH

Louis Suárez-Potts napísal/a:

>
>> On 20 Jan 2015, at 14:41, V Stuart Foote  wrote:
>> 
>> Andrea Pescetti-2 wrote
>>> Do you approve that, in his capacity as the Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair, 
>>> Andrea Pescetti submits a resolution to the Board asking to be replaced 
>>> by Louis Suárez-Potts as the Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair?
>>> [ ] +1 Yes
>>> [ ]  0 Abstain
>>> [ ] -1 No
>> 
>> -1 No (non-binding)
>> 
>> with apologies to Louis (who no doubt can fill the administrative role as
>> PMC Chair) and to Andrea (for our stringing him along), but it seems there
>> really should be additional vetting of other candidates, including perhaps
>> their views of where the PMC is taking (needs to take) the project--rather
>> than an unopposed and rushed VOTE.
>> 
>> Sorry.
>> 
>> 
>
>Don't be sorry. I agree with you. We clearly ought to have had more discussion 
>prior to voting. But on the bright side… this vote, the weirdness of it (what, 
>just one candidate, and haven't we seen him before?), all this led to more 
>engagement and, I hope, I really hope, yet more the next round. 
>
>louis
>> 
>> --
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! {UGRENT} Marketing materials, can't provide

[Michal Hriň]

Hi,

beacuse of printer company was smug, and did my order in they're ways.

I can't provide this materials. 

I have a meeting with my friend today, if it is possible print repaired
materials in time, yes I now nobody believes in me, so if is there
possibility to print materials in country with less diletants than I
live, try to do it and let me know.

That mess was sent to Andrea anyways, throw it from window in Belgium.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/101590593@N06/16297899626/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/101590593@N06/16136465010/in/photostream/

Thank you and Regards,
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Re: ! Urgent, stickers for FOSDEM

[Michal Hriň]

V Štvrtok, 15. január 2015 o 11:28 +0100, Andrea Pescetti napísal(a):
> Michal Hriň wrote:
> > Or I will order 250 stickers from modified logo (little distorted) and
> > 250 from unmodified logo form pdf.
> 
> If you meant to send an image, it didn't reach the list. The 250+250 
> could be an option too, or maybe we can fix the image, but I'll need to 
> see it first.
> 

Pictures sended in private to your Apache mail.

So I mean 250 of mod logo source you have on mail.

And 250 of this 

http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/aoo-working/Apache_OpenOffice_Logo_ChrisR_selected_2013-06.pdf?view=log

I don't know. I am here, ping me after decision.


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Re: ! Urgent, stickers for FOSDEM

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V Štvrtok, 15. január 2015 o 10:26 +0100, Michal Hriň napísal(a):
> Hi,
> 
> just now I been in print company for examples of stickers.
> 
> They doesn't look very good (my logo, uploaded on flickr, derivated from
> AOO logo, png format), it is I think not very sharp and little bit
> distorted. 
> 
> I don't have idea how to express here online how it looks in reality
> cause my scanner distorted it more.
> 
> I don't know how to deliver or create acceptable format for print in
> reasonable time from provided graphics.
> 
> Organizers of fosdem booth, try to print on your printer that logo in
> dimensions 8 cm width and you will see.
> 
> I *really - really* need comments if it is acceptable or not.
> 
> Resources and time are not problem ,I think, but I don't want to provide
> materials with not good quality.


Or I will order 250 stickers from modified logo (little distorted) and
250 from unmodified logo form pdf.

Or you want stickers from plotter ?

Decide!

NOTE. Shipping is I think more than 5 days so I want to place binding
order tomorrow.

> 
> Regards,
> 
> Michal Hriň
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Re: [DISCUSS] Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

[Michal Hriň]

V Štvrtok, 15. január 2015 o 09:04 +0100, Andrea Pescetti napísal(a):
> On 15/01/2015 Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> > Do you approve that, in his capacity as the Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair,
> > Andrea Pescetti submits a resolution to the Board asking to be replaced
> > by Louis Suárez-Potts as the Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair?
> > [ ] +1 Yes
> > [ ]  0 Abstain
> > [ ] -1 No
> 
> Procedural note: I didn't add it to my initial mail in order to keep it 
> short, but it is highly recommended that -1 votes be accompanied by a 
> brief motivation (1-2 lines), especially if you haven't participated in 
> the discussions so far. Knowing what is wrong can help a lot. This holds 
> for the -1 votes that have already been expressed too.
> 

Maybe I don't uderstad very well.

Let me express my frustration.

Andrea, you are active chair and member of ASF! (there is now place for
politness) Kick -off all PMCs and bring project to life !

There are some people who still believes in project, but ...

Proble is not non active people, less releases or resources. Problem is
that every idea is killed. 

This vote was good idea but I thought that you will have disagreement or
not 3 binding votes.

Regards,

Michal Hriň


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! Urgent, stickers for FOSDEM

[Michal Hriň]

Hi,

just now I been in print company for examples of stickers.

They doesn't look very good (my logo, uploaded on flickr, derivated from
AOO logo, png format), it is I think not very sharp and little bit
distorted. 

I don't have idea how to express here online how it looks in reality
cause my scanner distorted it more.

I don't know how to deliver or create acceptable format for print in
reasonable time from provided graphics.

Organizers of fosdem booth, try to print on your printer that logo in
dimensions 8 cm width and you will see.

I *really - really* need comments if it is acceptable or not.

Resources and time are not problem ,I think, but I don't want to provide
materials with not good quality.

Regards,

Michal Hriň


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Re: Your stand proposal for Apache OpenOffice has been accepted

[Michal Hriň]

V Streda, 14. január 2015 o 09:29 +0100, RA Stehmann napísal(a):
> On 14.01.2015 01:46, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > Michael, Mechtilde, what about the quantity? Shall we go for about 500
> > pins with the plain orb and 500 stickers with the OpenOffice logo and a
> > 15-year statement? What remains unused at FOSDEM could be used for other
> > events.
> 
> That seems to be proper quantities.
> 

OK, so you 'd like 500 stickers with modified logo a 500 with
unmodified, am I right ? I choosed dimensions 8 x 4 cm.

Budget is around 80€ including shipping for this 1000 stickers.

Go forward ?

Mhh, and pin buttons, 0.312 per piece so more than 150€ without
shipping.

Ideas ?


> Regards
> Michael
> 
> 
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Re: Your stand proposal for Apache OpenOffice has been accepted

[Michal Hriň]

Another draft of picture :)

https://www.flickr.com/photos/101590593@N06/16085134929/

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V Utorok, 13. január 2015 o 10:03 +0100, Andrea Pescetti napísal(a):
> Kay Schenk wrote:
> > On 01/12/2015 01:55 PM, Michal Hriň wrote:
> >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/101590593@N06/16266021142/
> > very nice!
> 
> Nice, thank you Michal! Only one minor remark: in general, we prefer 
> that the OpenOffice logo is unmodified (your version has some gulls 
> flying over it). Your changes are very unobtrusive anyway, so we could 
> keep them.
> 
> You asked for a vector version of the logo. A vector version is here:
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/aoo-working/
> The PDF is OK, other versions were derived from it.
> 
> Regards,
>Andrea.
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Re: Your stand proposal for Apache OpenOffice has been accepted

[Michal Hriň]

V Utorok, 13. január 2015 o 10:03 +0100, Andrea Pescetti napísal(a):
> Kay Schenk wrote:
> > On 01/12/2015 01:55 PM, Michal Hriň wrote:
> >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/101590593@N06/16266021142/
> > very nice!
> 
> Nice, thank you Michal! Only one minor remark: in general, we prefer 
> that the OpenOffice logo is unmodified (your version has some gulls 
> flying over it). Your changes are very unobtrusive anyway, so we could 
> keep them.
> 

OK.

If it is acceptable I will try to create better version for print.

And another question, do you need help with printing of small materials,
shoud I ask some print company if it is possible to make it? And then
send it to for example to Bruxelles by land post ?


> You asked for a vector version of the logo. A vector version is here:
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/aoo-working/
> The PDF is OK, other versions were derived from it.
> 
> Regards,
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Re: Your stand proposal for Apache OpenOffice has been accepted

[Michal Hriň]

V Pondelok, 12. január 2015 o 22:18 +0100, Marcus napísal(a):
> Am 01/12/2015 09:06 PM, schrieb Michal Hri:
> > I had an idea .. What do you think ? :)
> > https://www.flickr.com/photos/101590593@N06/16240171406/
> >
> > https://www.flickr.com/photos/101590593@N06/16265260892/
> 
> thanks for making the pictures. The English one looks better for me.
> 
> May I ask for 2 improvements? The sentence with "Liberating ..." should 
> be a bit lower to get more space betweeen the gulls and text. Currently 
> it's a bit overlapping. And I would use the word "Freeing" instead of 
> "Liberating" - except an English native-speaker. ;-)
> 

Sorry, here

https://www.flickr.com/photos/101590593@N06/16266021142/

> Marcus
> 
> 
> 
> >   Dňa pondelok, 12. január 2015 10:50 ,jan i  napísal:
> >
> >
> >   On Monday, January 12, 2015, Andrea Pescetti  wrote:
> >
> >> On 30/12/2014 jan i wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Tuesday, December 30, 2014, RA Stehmann wrote:
> >>>
>  On 29.12.2014 22:11, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> 
> > The important things are:
> > - decide WHAT to have (pins, roll-up?, other gadgets?); we can take time
> > in the next few days for this
> >
>  The roll-up is still existing, but if you want a special one for the "15
>  years" celebrations, it has to be purchased.
>  English flyers are existing, but if you need special ones for the "15
>  years" celebrations, they have to be produced.
>  We have also french and german flyers, but no dutch (and no italian or
>  spanish ones).
>  We have Apache feather stickers, OpenOffice.org lanyards and pins (retro
>  design ;-) ). And we have a few Apache cup warm keepers.
>  Sticker postcards have been running out.
> 
> >>> How about sweat shirts with our logo, the feather and some 15year marker ?
> >>>
> >>
> >> OK, so wrapping this up and since no-one volunteered for design...
> >>
> >> Stuff that we must have (and that we already have the design for) include:
> >> 1) Pins: we already have the design at http://www.openoffice.org/
> >> marketing/art/galleries/logos/index.html ; can someone suggest a provider
> >> and take care of this?
> >> 2) OpenOffice stickers: same? Or do we miss the design? I can't find
> >> anything, and probably the ones I saw still have the old logo.
> >> 3) Apache stickers and possibly other materials: These probably are
> >> already arranged by Apache and will be delivered by Jan.
> >>
> >> "Nice to have" include (we need someone who designs this, and they will
> >> have to be dropped unless someone volunteers quickly):
> >> 1) New roll-up with "15 years" design: if a volunteers designs it, we can
> >> have it too.
> >> 2) New English leaflets with "15 years" design: same
> >> 3) OpenOffice stickers if we need the design.
> >> 4) Sweatshirts: I think it's a very nice idea, again the issue is with
> >> finding a provider.
> >
> > With only 2 weeks to go, I see it a bit unrealistic,  to make design, find
> > a provider, agree on cost and get it delivered in time, but that is just my
> > opinion.
> >
> >>
> >> Budget is not an issue. It looks like the expense will be reasonable. We
> >> have funds that can cover these expenses.
> >>
> >>we should have the items produced in europe there are plenty of cheap
> >>> places.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Were you thinking about some website/company in particular?
> >
> > not anybody that can deliver overnight to a good price, to get the good
> > prices you typically  need to allow 8-10 days delivery.
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Re: Your stand proposal for Apache OpenOffice has been accepted

[Michal Hriň]

V Pondelok, 12. január 2015 o 22:18 +0100, Marcus napísal(a):
> Am 01/12/2015 09:06 PM, schrieb Michal Hri:
> > I had an idea .. What do you think ? :)
> > https://www.flickr.com/photos/101590593@N06/16240171406/
> >
> > https://www.flickr.com/photos/101590593@N06/16265260892/
> 
> thanks for making the pictures. The English one looks better for me.
> 
> May I ask for 2 improvements? The sentence with "Liberating ..." should 
> be a bit lower to get more space betweeen the gulls and text. Currently 
> it's a bit overlapping. And I would use the word "Freeing" instead of 
> "Liberating" - except an English native-speaker. ;-)
> 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/101590593@N06/15646918643/

Better ? :)

- MH


> Marcus
> 
> 
> 
> >   Dňa pondelok, 12. január 2015 10:50 ,jan i  napísal:
> >
> >
> >   On Monday, January 12, 2015, Andrea Pescetti  wrote:
> >
> >> On 30/12/2014 jan i wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Tuesday, December 30, 2014, RA Stehmann wrote:
> >>>
>  On 29.12.2014 22:11, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> 
> > The important things are:
> > - decide WHAT to have (pins, roll-up?, other gadgets?); we can take time
> > in the next few days for this
> >
>  The roll-up is still existing, but if you want a special one for the "15
>  years" celebrations, it has to be purchased.
>  English flyers are existing, but if you need special ones for the "15
>  years" celebrations, they have to be produced.
>  We have also french and german flyers, but no dutch (and no italian or
>  spanish ones).
>  We have Apache feather stickers, OpenOffice.org lanyards and pins (retro
>  design ;-) ). And we have a few Apache cup warm keepers.
>  Sticker postcards have been running out.
> 
> >>> How about sweat shirts with our logo, the feather and some 15year marker ?
> >>>
> >>
> >> OK, so wrapping this up and since no-one volunteered for design...
> >>
> >> Stuff that we must have (and that we already have the design for) include:
> >> 1) Pins: we already have the design at http://www.openoffice.org/
> >> marketing/art/galleries/logos/index.html ; can someone suggest a provider
> >> and take care of this?
> >> 2) OpenOffice stickers: same? Or do we miss the design? I can't find
> >> anything, and probably the ones I saw still have the old logo.
> >> 3) Apache stickers and possibly other materials: These probably are
> >> already arranged by Apache and will be delivered by Jan.
> >>
> >> "Nice to have" include (we need someone who designs this, and they will
> >> have to be dropped unless someone volunteers quickly):
> >> 1) New roll-up with "15 years" design: if a volunteers designs it, we can
> >> have it too.
> >> 2) New English leaflets with "15 years" design: same
> >> 3) OpenOffice stickers if we need the design.
> >> 4) Sweatshirts: I think it's a very nice idea, again the issue is with
> >> finding a provider.
> >
> > With only 2 weeks to go, I see it a bit unrealistic,  to make design, find
> > a provider, agree on cost and get it delivered in time, but that is just my
> > opinion.
> >
> >>
> >> Budget is not an issue. It looks like the expense will be reasonable. We
> >> have funds that can cover these expenses.
> >>
> >>we should have the items produced in europe there are plenty of cheap
> >>> places.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Were you thinking about some website/company in particular?
> >
> > not anybody that can deliver overnight to a good price, to get the good
> > prices you typically  need to allow 8-10 days delivery.
> 
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Re: Your stand proposal for Apache OpenOffice has been accepted

[Michal Hriň]

V Pondelok, 12. január 2015 o 22:07 +0100, jan i napísal(a):
> On Monday, January 12, 2015, Michal Hri 
> wrote:
> 
> > I had an idea .. What do you think ? :)
> > https://www.flickr.com/photos/101590593@N06/16240171406/
> >
> > https://www.flickr.com/photos/101590593@N06/1626526089
> > 
> 
> I like the english one. To get the best print quality svg is normally the
> best format.
> 

Picture was created from .png (so this is the quality of base pictures),
I don't have vectors, maybe someone can point me where to find it. 

  

> rgds
> jan i
> 
> >  - MH
> >
> >  Dňa pondelok, 12. január 2015 10:50 ,jan i  > > napísal:
> >
> >
> >  On Monday, January 12, 2015, Andrea Pescetti  > > wrote:
> >
> > > On 30/12/2014 jan i wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Tuesday, December 30, 2014, RA Stehmann wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> On 29.12.2014 22:11, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> > >>>
> >  The important things are:
> >  - decide WHAT to have (pins, roll-up?, other gadgets?); we can take
> > time
> >  in the next few days for this
> > 
> > >>> The roll-up is still existing, but if you want a special one for the
> > "15
> > >>> years" celebrations, it has to be purchased.
> > >>> English flyers are existing, but if you need special ones for the "15
> > >>> years" celebrations, they have to be produced.
> > >>> We have also french and german flyers, but no dutch (and no italian or
> > >>> spanish ones).
> > >>> We have Apache feather stickers, OpenOffice.org lanyards and pins
> > (retro
> > >>> design ;-) ). And we have a few Apache cup warm keepers.
> > >>> Sticker postcards have been running out.
> > >>>
> > >> How about sweat shirts with our logo, the feather and some 15year
> > marker ?
> > >>
> > >
> > > OK, so wrapping this up and since no-one volunteered for design...
> > >
> > > Stuff that we must have (and that we already have the design for)
> > include:
> > > 1) Pins: we already have the design at http://www.openoffice.org/
> > > marketing/art/galleries/logos/index.html ; can someone suggest a provider
> > > and take care of this?
> > > 2) OpenOffice stickers: same? Or do we miss the design? I can't find
> > > anything, and probably the ones I saw still have the old logo.
> > > 3) Apache stickers and possibly other materials: These probably are
> > > already arranged by Apache and will be delivered by Jan.
> > >
> > > "Nice to have" include (we need someone who designs this, and they will
> > > have to be dropped unless someone volunteers quickly):
> > > 1) New roll-up with "15 years" design: if a volunteers designs it, we can
> > > have it too.
> > > 2) New English leaflets with "15 years" design: same
> > > 3) OpenOffice stickers if we need the design.
> > > 4) Sweatshirts: I think it's a very nice idea, again the issue is with
> > > finding a provider.
> >
> > With only 2 weeks to go, I see it a bit unrealistic,  to make design, find
> > a provider, agree on cost and get it delivered in time, but that is just my
> > opinion.
> >
> > >
> > > Budget is not an issue. It looks like the expense will be reasonable. We
> > > have funds that can cover these expenses.
> > >
> > >  we should have the items produced in europe there are plenty of cheap
> > >> places.
> > >>
> > >
> > > Were you thinking about some website/company in particular?
> >
> > not anybody that can deliver overnight to a good price, to get the good
> > prices you typically  need to allow 8-10 days delivery.
> >
> > rgds
> > jan i
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >  Andrea.
> > >
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> >
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Re: Nominations for a new PMC Chair

[Michal Hriň]

Dňa 01.01.2015 o 23:16 jan i napísal(a):

On 1 January 2015 at 22:57, Andrea Pescetti  wrote:


As I wrote yesterday, it's time to start looking for a new PMC Chair that
can replace me (only for these specific duties; I'll of course continue
with all my other activities, that are the vast majority) when applicable.
We are not in a hurry as I will take care of the January Board report, but
it's good to start moving.

Let's take several days, until 10 January, to receive nominations (or
self-nominations) for the next PMC Chair. Just reply to this e-mail with
nominations.

My duties as a Chair cover only a minimal part of my activity in
OpenOffice, so it's good that I point out what is expected of a Chair:
http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair

1) The Chair is the interface between the Project Management Committee and
the Apache Board. The Chair takes responsibilities for the quarterly report
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Board+Reports

2) The chair is a facilitator and their role within the PMC is to ensure
that everyone has a chance to be heard and to enable meetings to flow
smoothly. There is no concept of "leader" in the Apache way.

3) After the project has elected new committers or PMC members, the Chair
is responsible for the needed updates to the Apache LDAP groups.



You describe very correctly the duties of a chair, seen from our bylaws.
But apart from that, there seems be an unwritten rule the chair is
normally also quite active..

In the bigger part of ASF projects, the PMC is active together with the
chair, in that case chair function is purely administrative.

You can find some project where the chair is active, but the rest of the
PMC is only limited active, in that case the chair should be active in
reactivating the PMC.

I have yet to find a project where the chair is inactive while the PMC is
active.

Bear in mind I dont speak of the chair as a role (which you have already
correctly described), but the person behind the role. That person, should
always have a finger on the pulse of  the community, be prepared to help
solve conflictsof course if the PMC group is active, this is not a
problem.and most importantly that person should having the backing of
the PMC group.


rgds
jan I.




OK, we know what are duties of PMC Chair.
Both of you didn't get out a names of candidates. Probably, I know your 
view, but please, put it here.


So here I chose some people, to make this election easier.

Rob Weir
Marcus Lange
Key Schenk

This are I thing object reasons, looking on activity on mailing lists 
(dev && l10n && commits) for last year and for a time after last release.


This is not my finite vote. I will wait for others nominations.

And don't to forget, named people, express your opinion here, if you 
want, are willing and able to do this.


Regards,
Michal Hriň




So please go on with your nominations. We don't have strict rules about
eligibility. As I verified, nominees needn't be PMC members, since they can
be admitted to the PMC as part of their election. They needn't be
OpenOffice committers either, but in practice the new Chair needs to have a
good knowledge of the project, so I see it reasonable (but again, not
mandatory) that the new Chair is chosen among the OpenOffice committers:
http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#openoffice

Regards,
   Andrea.

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Re: [Off topic] Happy New Year

[Michal Hriň]

Dňa 31.12.2014 o 19:16 Kay Schenk napísal(a):

On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 6:45 AM, Alexandro Colorado  wrote:


Hi just want to wish a happy new year and congratulate to the Apache
OpenOffice community for their efforts on making this project what is
becoming and recognize the time that volunteers put here. I wish the
community the best and to keep growing and evolving and make OpenOffice
even greater.

--
Alexandro Colorado
Apache OpenOffice Contributor
882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9  5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614



Nice words! Happy New Year to all!

Let me wish to you, project members and project, all the best in New 
year, too.


Lot of enthusiasm in project tasks, more adoption of OpenOffice in 
organisations and so.



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Re: CentOS build box.

[Michal Hriň]

Dňa 19.12.2014 o 01:18 Kay Schenk napísal(a):



On 12/18/2014 02:22 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

Michal Hriň wrote:

On Thursday, December 18, 2014, Kay Schenk wrote:

My main concern at this point is the availability of security updates
for this environment. I will be following up on a different thread
about
this. ...

http://wiki.centos.org/Download


No need for a different thread, Michal's link says it all: CentOS 5 will
have security updates (even if limited to "important" security updates)
until 2017. The latest release of CentOS 5 is 5.11 from September 2014
(so, more recent than the most recent OpenOffice version). That said, I
have nothing against bumping our baseline when appropriate (i.e., not in
4.1.x) if there are valid reasons for it.

Regards,
   Andrea.




If I understand correctly,


Good news. One of my concerns has been with the CERT advisories that
have emerged concerning glibc, now up to before version 2.21.



No need to have concerns, about version of packages in enterprise linux. 
Packages have different version number than upstream. Example:


glibc 2.10+6168464, but this package may contain security issues founded 
from 2.21+




And, of course we should check out our other needed sources -- openssl,
etc. Hopefully I can get to that soon and report back.



I think that we are using lot of ours own libraries (and bundle it to 
package), which are different from libraries in operating system. 
"external_dep" is that .. (openssl 0.9.7? which is absolutely different 
form Cent 5 ssl library).


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Re: CentOS build box.

[Michal Hriň]

Dňa 18.12.2014 o 20:46 Michal Hriň napísal(a):



Dňa 18.12.2014 o 20:20 jan i napísal(a):

On Thursday, December 18, 2014, Kay Schenk  wrote:


On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 12:12 AM, Andrea Pescetti >
wrote:


Kay Schenk wrote:


I would really like to know at some point why we're so tethered to ver

5?




It is our baseline (our reference platform). So it is part of our
commitment to users. The baseline can change (we did it for Mac),
but if
there are no strong technical reasons for doing it is should remain the
same.

Regards,
   Andrea.



My main concern at this point is the availability of security updates
for
this environment. I will be following up on a different thread about
this.



Does anybody know what the official EOL for centOS 5 is?



When you try to download CentOS here is written "Legacy versions of
CentOS are no longer supported." ... But the .iso files for older
release is available like 5.11 or 6.6. What about updates, don't know
I'm using v.7.

RHEL 5 is supported until March 31, 2017 and extended support to 2020.

https://access.redhat.com/support/policy/updates/errata/



http://wiki.centos.org/Download


- MH



I could not find an official answer with google, but a centOS person told
me its mid 2015.

rgds
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Re: CentOS build box.

[Michal Hriň]

Dňa 18.12.2014 o 20:20 jan i napísal(a):

On Thursday, December 18, 2014, Kay Schenk  wrote:


On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 12:12 AM, Andrea Pescetti >
wrote:


Kay Schenk wrote:


I would really like to know at some point why we're so tethered to ver

5?




It is our baseline (our reference platform). So it is part of our
commitment to users. The baseline can change (we did it for Mac), but if
there are no strong technical reasons for doing it is should remain the
same.

Regards,
   Andrea.



My main concern at this point is the availability of security updates for
this environment. I will be following up on a different thread about this.



Does anybody know what the official EOL for centOS 5 is?



When you try to download CentOS here is written "Legacy versions of 
CentOS are no longer supported." ... But the .iso files for older 
release is available like 5.11 or 6.6. What about updates, don't know 
I'm using v.7.


RHEL 5 is supported until March 31, 2017 and extended support to 2020.

https://access.redhat.com/support/policy/updates/errata/

- MH



I could not find an official answer with google, but a centOS person told
me its mid 2015.

rgds
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Re: The installation of open office on Debian wheezy

[Michal Hriň]

Hi Sherry,

here you can download binaries, choose Linux 32bit DEB, your language 
and version 4.1.1


http://www.openoffice.org/download/index.html

when the download will be at end here is brief instructions how to 
install it


http://www.openoffice.org/download/common/instructions.html#linux-deb

Have a good day.

Dňa 30.11.2014 o 10:57 Sherry Winter napísal(a):

I cannot seem to install on my debian wheezy I am missing binaries. Do you
have any ideas.I have a 32 bit Linux debian wheezy os

Thank you for you attention in this matter.

Sherry Winter.



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Unofficial photos ApacheCon EU 2014

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Hi all,

Here some usable photos from my tablet from ApacheCon.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/101590593@N06/

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Re: Very simple first patch

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Dňa 14.11.2014 o 00:10 Andrea Pescetti napísal(a):

On 13/11/2014 Michal Hriň wrote:

I made very simple patch.
http://people.apache.org/~hrin/dejavu/


Looks quite correct. The normal way would be to open an issue of type
PATCH and attach your patch. Make just one .patch file, obtained with
svn diff or git diff. And don't forget to send the link here to connect
it to this discussion.



Thanks! I tried to avoid to download whole trunk. I tried this on 
release because I want to know if the build is my problem or others. svn 
diff can't be made without svn co, right? But this is my problem.




Please review, and feel free to add it to trunk if it will be good.
And add comments if I'm doing something wrong.


I didn't test it yet, but I would only double-check that replacing the
ZIP file with a tar.gz archive does not require other changes. The rest
looks good.



Yop, :) sorry. I overseen the same file, but in .zip archive. I may 
change it.



It is a update of external package :)


And here is a problem, but it doesn't depend on you. Policy so far has
been: we download build-time dependencies from the Extensions site and
from Apache Extras. If Apache Extras (currently part of Google Code) do
not allow us to upload files any longer, then this is the first
occurrence of a problem that we have largely anticipated but not solved
yet. This shouldn't stop us from updating libraries, but for sure we
(the entire Apache Foundation, not OpenOffice only) must find a viable
replacement before the next release.

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Re: Admin rights to Pootle

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Dňa 14.11.2014 o 08:44 jan i napísal(a):

I think you misunderstood my mail. The above was what I prefer, but the
AOO project handles it differently. The AOO project admins create
accounts when requested, but of course they are not online 24hours a
day, therefore account creation can take a couple of days. I have no
problem with that.

But just for reference there are no double workthe suggestion is
accepted (just as users with account should have their translations
reviewed, this is the normal committer process).

Look at the mailing list, 2 accounts was just created within 24hours.

You ask to become admin, and that is different.


OK, I stop discussing about this.
_I want only to help. :)_
I'm asking from time to time to be more usefull. I have no problem with 
others work. If you want PMC as admin OK. If you want from users to make 
sugestions OK. If you don't want new admin volunteers OK.


It looks like that we (as AOO) still have no "strict" definitions for 
how translators should work.


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Re: Admin rights to Pootle

[Michal Hriň]

Dňa 13.11.2014 o 19:50 jan i napísal(a):

On 13 November 2014 18:43, Michal Hriň  wrote:




Dňa 13.11.2014 o 18:23 jan i napísal(a):


On 13 November 2014 09:39, Michal Hriň  wrote:

  Is it possible to gain admin (or higher) rights for account creation for

Pootle to speed up process ?

  in general no, see my other mail.




OK. I'm asking because I think that Andrea is only one person, who creates
Pootle accounts for new volunteers, and I'm not sure if volunteers comes
back if they don't have created account immediately.



If they could not work, they would not come back, but please remember they
can work without an accountwe only use the account for 2 reasons
1) We can see who do what, and once a person has done a fair bit of work,
the project might consider inviting that person as committer.
2) guests makes proposals, that will be reviewed by persons who have an
account.



Imagine a situation that there is only one person per language (and that 
's the reality) so we give to person advice to make sugestions.
Person made sugestions, and now imagine after week , person have to 
submit sugestions one-by-one (there is no submit all I think). So it is 
doubled work for person.


Or I may give advice to person to translate offline then upload files 
back to Pootle one-by-one or somewhere to cloud. But I'm user that don't 
want to install tools for translations to my computer, so I want account 
to avoid doubled work.


I'm on end, do what you have to do.



In my opinion its nice to see work from a person, before that person is
allowed to write and change directly. 99% are good people, but the 1% (or
less) can made damage that takes a lot of time to repair.








rgds
jan I.





  rgds

jan i.




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Re: Admin rights to Pootle

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Dňa 13.11.2014 o 18:23 jan i napísal(a):

On 13 November 2014 09:39, Michal Hriň  wrote:


Is it possible to gain admin (or higher) rights for account creation for
Pootle to speed up process ?


in general no, see my other mail.



OK. I'm asking because I think that Andrea is only one person, who 
creates Pootle accounts for new volunteers, and I'm not sure if 
volunteers comes back if they don't have created account immediately.



rgds
jan i.




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Very simple first patch

[Michal Hriň]

Hi,

I made very simple patch.

http://people.apache.org/~hrin/dejavu/

Please review, and feel free to add it to trunk if it will be good.
And add comments if I'm doing something wrong.

It is a update of external package :)

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Pootle to speed up process ?


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Admin rights to Pootle

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Re: OpenOffice lost again 6000 users (was: Improved OOXML support?)

[Michal Hriň]

Dňa 24.10.2014 o 09:59 Jürgen Schmidt napísal(a):

On 24/10/14 07:54, Jörg Schmidt wrote:

Hello,


From: Andreas Säger [mailto:saege...@t-online.de]



Being a customer, I do see things differently.
Every OOXML file is a vote against ODF.


theoretically correct, but practically?


One day in future LO will save ODF as a secondary
option.


Possible.

But where is the problem? Either OOXML *is* ISO standard or is not ISO-standard.

If the problem is however that MS is 'meddling' in the standard, then it is a 
political issue that requires policy responses - not a question of software 
development.


Finally MS wins


There is no tomorrow (or "finally") for it - MS wins today.

For example:
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Berliner-Finanzaemter-wechseln-zurueck-auf-Microsoft-Office-2430961.html


MS comes up with the next shit


life is not a pony farm and competition is not a throw with cotton balls. It is 
about the competition and we have to face, and not whine.



I believe a decision like the one in Berlin is always political
motivated. See for example the upcoming discussion about the same topic
in Munich after changes in the administration.



If you had elections in Berlin recently, that is it why ...



Juergen



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Re: Who will attend ApacheCon Europe?

[Michal Hriň]

OpenOffice track are only on Tuesday and Wednesday right ?

Dňa 17.10.2014 o 08:14 Raphael Bircher napísal(a):

Hi all

I wonder who will go to the ApacheCon Europe in Budapest? Are there same
people from Apache OpenOffice there?

Have an nice day
Raphael

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Re: Who will attend ApacheCon Europe?

[Michal Hriň]

Is needed to be at the place in 17. at registration and introduction or 
it is possible to come later ?


Dňa 17.10.2014 o 08:14 Raphael Bircher napísal(a):

Hi all

I wonder who will go to the ApacheCon Europe in Budapest? Are there same
people from Apache OpenOffice there?

Have an nice day
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Re: [Build] Modifying oowintool

[Michal Hriň]

Hi,

@Regina, thanks for interesting reading.

@Oliver, if you are interested in my messy thoughts, see comments below.

Regards, Michal Hriň.

Dňa 29.08.2014 o 09:22 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann napísal(a):

Hi,

On 27.08.2014 20:52, Michal Hriň wrote:

Hi,

I'm trying to compile OO on Windows, specifically 8.1.

The problem is that Microsoft provides on the top page only Visual
Studio 2013, and 2010. I'm using free Express edition.

Configure stops every time on compiler. When was used 2010 compiler,
configure says that the version is less than required.

So I went forward with 2013.



Did you try to provide the corresponding compiler resources via
configure options?
I am not using any Visual Studio installation to get the C++ compiler -
I just installed "Microsoft Windows SDK for Windows 7 and .NET Framework
3.5 SP1".
Thus, I need to use the following configure options:
--with-frame-home="/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Microsoft SDKs/Windows/v7.0"
--with-psdk-home="/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Microsoft SDKs/Windows/v7.0"
--with-midl-path="/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Microsoft
SDKs/Windows/v7.0/bin"

Best regards, Oliver.



Yes,

--with-frame-home="$"/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Microsoft 
SDKs/Windows/v7.1A"
--with-psdk-home="$"/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Microsoft 
SDKs/Windows/v7.1A"
--with-midl-path="$"/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Microsoft 
SDKs/Windows/v7.1A"/bin"


SDK for Windows 8.1 doesn't have bundled compiler, so I need to add

--with-cl-home="/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Microsoft Visual Studio 
12.0/VC"


and so. SDK Windows v7.1A is backwards compatible SDK in Win 8.1.

In this time I have bypassed problem with oowintool, I manually copied 
.dlls, for which oowintool was looking. After that I removed code for 
finding Visual Studio. Somethings happens, now I can start building process.


Configure tells something about warnings, but I don't see any on screen.

Configure completed, but
* WARNINGS WERE ISSUED *

Only one I found somewhere between is

cygwin warning:
  MS-DOS style path detected: C:/aoo-4.1.1/main
  Preferred POSIX equivalent is: /cygdrive/c/aoo-4.1.1/main
  CYGWIN environment variable option "nodosfilewarning" turns off this 
warning.


So I think that there is a problem with cygwin. I need to have executed 
cygwin with superuser rights and now the compilation stops at 
philosophic problem in module "soltools"


Compiling: soltools/mkdepend/cppsetup.c
c:\aoo-4.1.1\main\soltools\mkdepend\def.h(42) : fatal error C1083: 
Cannot open include file: 'unistd.h': No such file or directory

dmake:  Error code 2, while making '../wntmsci12.pro/obj/cppsetup.obj'

The file is in place if my eyes are working.

Later I would like to try make a build on Windows 7, to see if this is a 
problem of Cygwin or Windows 8.1.


If I create build, then I will try to rewrite scripts for appropriate 
recognition of MSVC2013.





But now I don't have an idea how to solve the problem,
probably in "oowintool" script

https://fisheye6.atlassian.com/browse/ooo/main/oowintool?r=1413471

Configure stops an says:

--
checking for bash... /usr/bin/bash
checking ml.exe assembler path... checking for ml.exe... no
found (/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Microsoft Visual Studio
12.0/VC/bin)

checking for zip... /usr/bin/zip
checking for unzip... /usr/bin/unzip
checking for dbghelp.dll... found and executable
checking for vcredist_x86.exe... found and executable
checking for vcredist_x64.exe... found and executable
Can't find MS Visual Studio / VC++ at ./oowintool line 248.
configure: error: oowintool failed to copy CRT

--

so I opened this script and saw that it didn't recognize my 2013
compiler so I tried to edit it, but it still not works.

I modified script around line 208, where I added :
--
my %msvs_express_2013 = (
 'ver' => '12.0',
 'key' => 'Microsoft/VDExpress/12.0_Config/Setup/VS/ProductDir',
 'dll_path' => 'VC/redist/x86/Microsoft.VC120.CRT',
 'dll_suffix' => '120'
);
my %msvc_express_2013 = (
 'ver' => '12.0',
 'key' => 'Microsoft/VDExpress/12.0_Config/Setup/VC/ProductDir',
 'dll_path' => 'redist/x86/Microsoft.VC120.CRT',
 'dll_suffix' => '120'
);

sub find_msvs()
{
 my @ms_versions = ( \%msvs_express_2013, \%msvs_2008,
\%msvs_express_2008, \%msvs_2005, \%msvs_express_2005,
\%msvs_net_2003_ea, \%msvs_net_2003 );

 for $ver (@ms_versions)
 {
 my $install = reg_get_value ("HKEY_CURRENT_USER/Software/" .
$ver->{'key'});
 if (defined $install && $install ne '') {
 $ver->{'product_dir'} = $install;
 return $ver;

Re: [Build] Modifying oowintool

[Michal Hriň]

[...]

Hi,

Please, excuse me, that I'm rising this type of questions, maybe I 
forgot to write, that I want to compile source with MSVC2013.


Anyways thanks for comments, I will help myself.

Best regards,
Michal Hriň


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[Build] Modifying oowintool

[Michal Hriň]

Hi,

I'm trying to compile OO on Windows, specifically 8.1.

The problem is that Microsoft provides on the top page only Visual 
Studio 2013, and 2010. I'm using free Express edition.


Configure stops every time on compiler. When was used 2010 compiler, 
configure says that the version is less than required.


So I went forward with 2013.

But now I don't have an idea how to solve the problem,
probably in "oowintool" script

https://fisheye6.atlassian.com/browse/ooo/main/oowintool?r=1413471

Configure stops an says:

--
checking for bash... /usr/bin/bash
checking ml.exe assembler path... checking for ml.exe... no
found (/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Microsoft Visual Studio 12.0/VC/bin)

checking for zip... /usr/bin/zip
checking for unzip... /usr/bin/unzip
checking for dbghelp.dll... found and executable
checking for vcredist_x86.exe... found and executable
checking for vcredist_x64.exe... found and executable
Can't find MS Visual Studio / VC++ at ./oowintool line 248.
configure: error: oowintool failed to copy CRT

--

so I opened this script and saw that it didn't recognize my 2013 
compiler so I tried to edit it, but it still not works.


I modified script around line 208, where I added :
--
my %msvs_express_2013 = (
'ver' => '12.0',
'key' => 'Microsoft/VDExpress/12.0_Config/Setup/VS/ProductDir',
'dll_path' => 'VC/redist/x86/Microsoft.VC120.CRT',
'dll_suffix' => '120'
);
my %msvc_express_2013 = (
'ver' => '12.0',
'key' => 'Microsoft/VDExpress/12.0_Config/Setup/VC/ProductDir',
'dll_path' => 'redist/x86/Microsoft.VC120.CRT',
'dll_suffix' => '120'
);

sub find_msvs()
{
my @ms_versions = ( \%msvs_express_2013, \%msvs_2008, 
\%msvs_express_2008, \%msvs_2005, \%msvs_express_2005, 
\%msvs_net_2003_ea, \%msvs_net_2003 );


for $ver (@ms_versions)
{
	my $install = reg_get_value ("HKEY_CURRENT_USER/Software/" . 
$ver->{'key'});

if (defined $install && $install ne '') {
$ver->{'product_dir'} = $install;
return $ver;
}
}
die "Can't find MS Visual Studio / VC++";
}

sub find_msvc()
{
my @ms_versions = ( \%msvc_express_2013, \%msvc_2008, 
\%msvc_express_2008, \%msvc_2005, \%msvc_express_2005, \%msvc_net_2003 );


for $ver (@ms_versions)
{
	my $install = reg_get_value ("HKEY_CURRENT_USER/Software/" . 
$ver->{'key'});

if (defined $install && $install ne '') {
$ver->{'product_dir'} = $install;
return $ver;
}
}
die "Can't find MS Visual Studio / VC++";
}
--

Any ideas ?

Regards,
Michal Hriň

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Installing AOO on Ubuntu/Mint/Debian

[Michal Hriň]

Hi,

When users want to install OpenOffice on Ubuntu or derivates, we advice 
them to uninstall LibreOffice.


The problem is in the same name of executable program, soffice.

I played with desktop integration and found some directives for 
generating .deb package (I think that I'm understand it right).


file "main/sysui/desktop/debian/control"

This file saying about packages which is in "Conflict", so what about 
adding here "libreoffice" or "libreoffice-common" ?


Please, add comments.

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Re: Broken desktop-integration in 4.1.1

[Michal Hriň]

Dňa 25.08.2014 o 17:09 Kay Schenk napísal(a):

On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 2:28 AM, Michal Hriň  wrote:


Hi,

I'm trying release 4.1.1 on my system Ubuntu with KDE 4.13.3 and
desktop-integration is broken.

Symlinks to soffice works but, when I tried to run program by clicking to
icon in menu nothing happens or I got a "Warning" which says

"Program will be executed: openoffice4 %U" by clicking on "Run" button
nothings happens.



Which desktop-integration did you install?

The freedesktop  integration works for me with KDE 4.10 on opensuse 12.3.




In release archive for Debian, there was only one .deb package for 
desktop intgeration, "dpkg" calls it "openoffice-debian-menus".




Notice / question:

Have I create issue? (in bugzilla is only 4.1 and 4.2.0-dev version)

As I'm playing with building of program, and I want to refresh my
programming, can someone point me to some reading about desktop-integration
and to the source where is the code of it ?

Why builds are provided without KDE integration ? When I tried to build
program --with-kde I didn't know which libraries build script expected.
Can someone point me which libraries and of what version are expected for
successful build with kde-integration?



In configure.in in the source tree, you will find 2 parameters dealing
withe kde --
--enable-kde
--enable-kde4

I haven't followed the complete configuration to determine where kde4 is
used.

Also in configure.in, you will get to a section with starting comments

"Check whether the Qt and KDE libraries are available."

for more information on libraries needed.

Since both Gnome and KDE now follow the freedesktop specification, that
desktop integration seems to work well for most users.



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[Build] Release build parameters

[Michal Hriň]

Hi,

can someone write me which exact "configure" parameters or some another 
are used for building (linux) release packages ?


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Broken desktop-integration in 4.1.1

[Michal Hriň]

Hi,

I'm trying release 4.1.1 on my system Ubuntu with KDE 4.13.3 and 
desktop-integration is broken.


Symlinks to soffice works but, when I tried to run program by clicking 
to icon in menu nothing happens or I got a "Warning" which says


"Program will be executed: openoffice4 %U" by clicking on "Run" button 
nothings happens.


Notice / question:

Have I create issue? (in bugzilla is only 4.1 and 4.2.0-dev version)

As I'm playing with building of program, and I want to refresh my 
programming, can someone point me to some reading about 
desktop-integration and to the source where is the code of it ?


Why builds are provided without KDE integration ? When I tried to build 
program --with-kde I didn't know which libraries build script expected.
Can someone point me which libraries and of what version are expected 
for successful build with kde-integration?


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Re: [RELEASE] feedback on download page preparation

[Michal Hriň]

Dňa 23.08.2014 o 20:28 Andrea Pescetti napísal(a):

On 20/08/2014 Vladislav Stevanovic wrote:

Can someone help us to put download page on English in Serbian site? Even
this solution is better than what we have now.
http://www.openoffice.org/sr-latn/download/


This is really bad indeed. The green download area is completely
missing. It happened back in June on several localized sites. Marcus
fixed it site-wide, but for a quick easy fix you should apply this patch
(this is for the Italian site but will work for sr-latn too):

http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/it/download/index.html?r1=1601211&r2=1601210&pathrev=1601211


Let us know if you need further help. Of course the page cannot stay as
it is now.

Regards,
   Andrea.


As I know, the download page is Javascript generated, I made a copy of 
english page to that directory.


Just translate (again) file msg_prop_l10n_sh.js and then it will be 
functional I think. Then rename index_new.html to index.html.





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Re: Build error - helpcontent2

[Michal Hriň]

Dňa 08.07.2014 23:02, Kay Schenk  wrote / napísal(a):


On 07/08/2014 11:27 AM, Michal Hriň wrote:

Hi,

I am going through "Building guide - Step by step", and I have some
problem with building helpcontent2. I am on Ubuntu 12.04 and I have JDK
6 and 7 installed from distribution repository and I am trying to build
4.1.0 release.

[...]

/home/majkl/aoo-4.1.0/main/helpcontent2/unxlngx6.pro/bin/xhp_sdatabase_en-US.zip/home/majkl/aoo-4.1.0/main/helpcontent2/source/auxiliary/en-US/sdatabase.cfgtime
taken was 2.886 seconds
/usr/bin/java   -cp
".:../../unxlngx6.pro/class:/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk-amd64/jre/lib/rt.jar:.:/home/majkl/aoo-4.1.0/main/solver/410/unxlngx6.pro/bin/jaxp.jar:/home/majkl/aoo-4.1.0/main/solver/410/unxlngx6.pro/bin/juh.jar:/home/majkl/aoo-4.1.0/main/solver/410/unxlngx6.pro/bin/parser.jar:/home/majkl/aoo-4.1.0/main/solver/410/unxlngx6.pro/bin/xt.jar:/home/majkl/aoo-4.1.0/main/solver/410/unxlngx6.pro/bin/unoil.jar:/home/majkl/aoo-4.1.0/main/solver/410/unxlngx6.pro/bin/ridl.jar:/home/majkl/aoo-4.1.0/main/solver/410/unxlngx6.pro/bin/jurt.jar:/home/majkl/aoo-4.1.0/main/solver/410/unxlngx6.pro/bin/xmlsearch.jar:/home/majkl/aoo-4.1.0/main/solver/410/unxlngx6.pro/bin/LuceneHelpWrapper.jar:/home/majkl/aoo-4.1.0/main/solver/410/unxlngx6.pro/bin/HelpIndexerTool.jar:/home/majkl/aoo-4.1.0/main/solver/410/unxlngx6.pro/bin/lucene-core-2.9.4-dev.jar:/home/majkl/aoo-4.1.0/main/solver/410/unxlngx6.pro/bin/lucene-analyzers-2.9.4-dev.jar"
com.sun.star.help.HelpIndexerTool -lang en-US -mod sdatabase -zipdir
../../unxlngx6.pro/misc/ziptmpsdatabase_en-US -o
../../unxlngx6.pro/bin/sdatabase_en-US.zip.unxlngx6.pro
Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError:
com/sun/star/help/HelpIndexerTool : Unsupported major.minor version 51.0
 at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass1(Native Method)
 at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(ClassLoader.java:643)
 at
java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(SecureClassLoader.java:142)
 at java.net.URLClassLoader.defineClass(URLClassLoader.java:277)
 at java.net.URLClassLoader.access$000(URLClassLoader.java:73)
 at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:212)
 at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
 at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:205)
 at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:323)
 at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Launcher.java:294)
 at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:268)
Could not find the main class: com.sun.star.help.HelpIndexerTool.
Program will exit.
dmake:  Error code 1, while making
'../../unxlngx6.pro/bin/sdatabase_en-US.zip'

1 module(s):
 helpcontent2
need(s) to be rebuilt

Reason(s):

ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making
/home/majkl/aoo-4.1.0/main/helpcontent2/util/sdatabase

Ideas?





Thanks!

After forcing Java to v. 7, build was sucessful. I wonder why configure 
script recognized Java 6 when both was installed. Maybe I have ghost in 
the machine.




 From this output, it looks like your java version for this build was
java 6. I think we're using 7 as the default for the builds but I'm not
positive this is causing your problem. However, you might try it and
explicitly declare it as part of your config options.

--with-java
--with-jdk-home=(path to your java 7 version)



Is somewhere in the universe complete list of these build parameters ?
Can you point me there ?


My java version is java version "1.7.0_51" (openJDK) and I did not
experience any problems with the build I did yesterday at this section.

Unfortunately, we don't seem to have source for HelpIndexerTool (just
the class files) so it's difficult to tell what's going on exactly.




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Build error - helpcontent2

[Michal Hriň]

Hi,

I am going through "Building guide - Step by step", and I have some 
problem with building helpcontent2. I am on Ubuntu 12.04 and I have JDK 
6 and 7 installed from distribution repository and I am trying to build 
4.1.0 release.


[...]

/home/majkl/aoo-4.1.0/main/helpcontent2/unxlngx6.pro/bin/xhp_sdatabase_en-US.zip/home/majkl/aoo-4.1.0/main/helpcontent2/source/auxiliary/en-US/sdatabase.cfgtime 
taken was 2.886 seconds
/usr/bin/java   -cp 
".:../../unxlngx6.pro/class:/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk-amd64/jre/lib/rt.jar:.:/home/majkl/aoo-4.1.0/main/solver/410/unxlngx6.pro/bin/jaxp.jar:/home/majkl/aoo-4.1.0/main/solver/410/unxlngx6.pro/bin/juh.jar:/home/majkl/aoo-4.1.0/main/solver/410/unxlngx6.pro/bin/parser.jar:/home/majkl/aoo-4.1.0/main/solver/410/unxlngx6.pro/bin/xt.jar:/home/majkl/aoo-4.1.0/main/solver/410/unxlngx6.pro/bin/unoil.jar:/home/majkl/aoo-4.1.0/main/solver/410/unxlngx6.pro/bin/ridl.jar:/home/majkl/aoo-4.1.0/main/solver/410/unxlngx6.pro/bin/jurt.jar:/home/majkl/aoo-4.1.0/main/solver/410/unxlngx6.pro/bin/xmlsearch.jar:/home/majkl/aoo-4.1.0/main/solver/410/unxlngx6.pro/bin/LuceneHelpWrapper.jar:/home/majkl/aoo-4.1.0/main/solver/410/unxlngx6.pro/bin/HelpIndexerTool.jar:/home/majkl/aoo-4.1.0/main/solver/410/unxlngx6.pro/bin/lucene-core-2.9.4-dev.jar:/home/majkl/aoo-4.1.0/main/solver/410/unxlngx6.pro/bin/lucene-analyzers-2.9.4-dev.jar" 
com.sun.star.help.HelpIndexerTool -lang en-US -mod sdatabase -zipdir 
../../unxlngx6.pro/misc/ziptmpsdatabase_en-US -o 
../../unxlngx6.pro/bin/sdatabase_en-US.zip.unxlngx6.pro
Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError: 
com/sun/star/help/HelpIndexerTool : Unsupported major.minor version 51.0

at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass1(Native Method)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(ClassLoader.java:643)
at 
java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(SecureClassLoader.java:142)
at java.net.URLClassLoader.defineClass(URLClassLoader.java:277)
at java.net.URLClassLoader.access$000(URLClassLoader.java:73)
at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:212)
at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:205)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:323)
at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Launcher.java:294)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:268)
Could not find the main class: com.sun.star.help.HelpIndexerTool. 
Program will exit.
dmake:  Error code 1, while making 
'../../unxlngx6.pro/bin/sdatabase_en-US.zip'


1 module(s):
helpcontent2
need(s) to be rebuilt

Reason(s):

ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making 
/home/majkl/aoo-4.1.0/main/helpcontent2/util/sdatabase


Ideas?

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Re: Building on Ubuntu 14.04

[Michal Hriň]

Dňa 04.07.2014 12:47, Michal Hriň  wrote / napísal(a):

Hi,

I tried to build release 4.1.0 on Ubuntu 14.04 and Issue 124712 appears
to me.
I stupidly tried to avoid this issue with building release for LLVM,
replacing gcc command with llvm-gcc in build scripts.

I have some questions:

- is possible build for example only module Writer, only executable
module, not installable packages and bypass this issue?



Excuse me for multiple messages, my hands maybe hit more keys than is good.

- is it possible build release with Clang on linux (it is used for Mac 
OS right)?


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Building on Ubuntu 14.04

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Hi,

I tried to build release 4.1.0 on Ubuntu 14.04 and Issue 124712 appears 
to me.
I stupidly tried to avoid this issue with building release for LLVM, 
replacing gcc command with llvm-gcc in build scripts.


I have some questions:

- is possible build for example only module Writer, only executable 
module, not installable packages and bypass this issue?


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Re: Code snippets from oooforum in AOO website?

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Dňa 01.06.2014 22:51, Hagar Delest  wrote / napísal(a):

Le 01/06/2014 16:51, Rob Weir a écrit :

Is it possible to approach the operator of oooforum.org and discuss
this?  If he is no longer interested in maintaining that website,
maybe he would agree to working with us to transfer the content,
giving us permission?  Maybe even transferring the domain name?


Then we are at a dead end...
We already had this kind of discussion in November 2011. Since I doubt
we can reach Ed, this is a lost cause.
I tried to get the terms of use but oooforum cannot be reached anymore.



Have you tried "internet archive" ?

https://web.archive.org/web/20140322204726/http://www.oooforum.org/

-MH


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Re: [PROPOSAL] - additional text for the Update Notification of installed Mac OS X versions [was: Re: [RELEASE] urgent request - activation of Update Notification for our AOO 4.1.0 release]

[Michal Hriň]

V Utorok, 6. máj 2014 o 13:52 +0200, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann napísal(a):
> Hi,
> 
> On 06.05.2014 13:20, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> > Solo per Mac OS X 10.7 o superiore
> >
> > (the original still looks acceptable anyway)
> 
> Thanks for the review and the feedback.
> 
> I will update the text tomorrow - waiting for some more needed updates 
> on other translations.
> 
> 

If I understand, you would like translated messsage "Only for Mac OS
versions 10.7 or never (newer)" .. right ? 

So:

Slovak sk 

"Iba pre Mac OS verzie 10.7 a novšie"

Czech cs

"Pouze pro Mac OS verze 10.7 a novější"


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Re: [RELEASE] urgent request - activation of Update Notification for our AOO 4.1.0 release

[Michal Hriň]

V Utorok, 29. apríl 2014 o 14:09 +0200, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
napísal(a):

Hi Oliver,

I tried yesterday download links you provided for Czech and Slovak, and
looked functional.

Deeper testing comes later this day, probably after yours desired time.

Regards,
Michal Hriň 

> Hi,
> 
> I am in preparation of the activation of the update notification for our 
> AOO 4.1.0 release for installed OpenOffice instances - versions 3.2.0, 
> 3.2.1, 3.3.0, 3.4.0, 3.4.1, 4.0.0 and 4.0.1
> 
> Here is the list of the languages whose users will be guided to a 
> localized website from the update notification in OpenOffice:
> - Czech   http://www.openoffice.org/cs/download
> - German  http://www.openoffice.org/de
> - Spanish http://www.openoffice.org/es/descargar
> - French  http://www.openoffice.org/fr/Telecharger
> - Italian http://www.openoffice.org/it/download
> - Japanesehttp://www.openoffice.org/ja/download
> - Dutch   http://www.openoffice.org/nl/downloaden.html
> - Portuguese (European)   http://www.openoffice.org/pt
> - Slovak  http://www.openoffice.org/sk/download
> - Turkish http://www.openoffice.org/tr
> - Chinese (simplified)http://www.openoffice.org/zh-cn
> - Chinese (traditional)   http://www.openoffice.org/zh-tw
> 
> As far as I can see the websites for the following languages need an 
> update for AOO 4.1.0
> - French
> - Japanese
> - Dutch
> 
> Request to all native speakers of the above languages:
> - Please have a look, if the localilzed website is ok.
> - Please update the localized website, if needed - esp. for French, 
> Japanese and Dutch
> 
> My plan is to go live with the update notification for AOO 4.1.0 
> tomorrow early afternoon (14:00 UTC+2).
> 
> Please leave my a note, if the one or the other localized website should 
> be dropped or kept for the update notification.
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> 
> Best regards, Oliver.
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Re: Automating Error-prone Manual Release-related Files By Using Centralized Release Artifact Metadata

[Michal Hriň]

Dňa Tue, 01 Oct 2013 20:38:03 +0200 Marcus (OOo)   
napísal:



Am 10/01/2013 04:17 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:

Every time we release we need to generate quite a few files related to
the release.

Here's the list I know of:

1) The ASC/SHA/MD5 hashes and signature files, one for every released  
file


2) A CWiki page listing all the built files with hyperlinks to hashes,  
etc.


https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds#DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-AOOSnapshot

This is used when voting on a Release Candidate.

3) release_matrix.js, used by the download page's logic to decide what
file to recommend based on user's locale:

http://www.openoffice.org/download/release_matrix.js


Plus the file size for the install files. I get it from the Sourceforge  
master mirror via rsync.


A simplification would be to combine "languages.js" and  
"release_matrix.js".



4) The other.html page that has a table listing all release files:

http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html


This is already automated via a few variables from "gloablvars.js".


5) Another download page, on openoffice.apache.org, listing the source
and SDK links, along with hashes:

https://openoffice.apache.org/downloads.html


My opinion is that we don't need this. Everything is already available  
on "other.html". We could reduce the webpage to show general information  
but for the specific release things refer to "other.html".



6) A flat list of all download URLs, used by the download stats script:

http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/devtools/aoo-stats/401.lst

7) The XML files used by the upgrade notification server, one XML file
per release:

https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/projects/update38/ProductUpdateService/check.Update

I imagine this list will grow over time.  Certainly new releases and
new translations cause us to update these files.  And to the extent
they are manually created they will contain errors.   Even if created
by automation, if we don't have a canonical data set that we're all
working from there is the opportunity for error.

So the big question: What can we do to improve on this?

1) Can we have a single, published, canonical, machine-readable
description of what is contained in a release, or even what is
contained in each build:


+1
Yeah, a (so-called) "source of truth" would be great.

For the download website the "globalvars.js" delivers the source data.  
But it needs to be filled with the data.




Topic looks interesting,
I have question, what data about released files do you mean ?
It is not enough to have : version+platform+language ?


a) base URL of where the files live


http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/

Then + VERSION + "/binaries/" + ISO_CODE


b) based URL to where the hashes and signatures live


http://www.apache.org/dist/openoffice/

Then + VERSION + "/binaries/" + NL_LANGUAGE + "/" + FILENAME

a) and b) can be seen as easy or difficult. Depends on your personal  
point of view.



c) list of all language codes and platforms included in the build

 >

d) defined rules for creating the full paths and file names given this
information.

2) Have such a data file for every past release, at least back to 3.4.0.


+1


3) Write scripts to generate our other files from these canonical files.

4) Check this all in to a central place so when a new release comes
out we can generate these needed files automatically, with much lower
chance for errors.

5) Spend our extra time drinking beer and imagining how rich we'd all
be if we each received $0.01 for every download of AOO.

How close are we to this?  Is any part of this automated already today?


The top number #4 is already automated.

But with the bottom #1 - #4 would be an advantage. However, I would be  
satisfied with #1 (source of base data) as everything else is not that  
difficult and time-consuming.


My 2 ct.

Marcus


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Re: [RELEASE] Urgent - Polish is missing in the release matrix

[Michal Hriň]

Dňa Tue, 01 Oct 2013 18:33:13 +0200 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann  
 napísal:



Hi,

On 01.10.2013 18:28, Michal Hriň wrote:

Dňa Tue, 01 Oct 2013 18:07:39 +0200 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
 napísal:


Hi,

On 01.10.2013 16:29, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:

Hi,

On 01.10.2013 16:22, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:

Hi,

On 01.10.2013 15:52, Rob Weir wrote:

On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
 wrote:

Hi,

it looks like that Polish is missing in the 'release matrix' -
ooo-site/trunk/content/download/release_matrix.js

Because I do not feel experienced enough, I am hesitating to
change the
'release matrix'.
Can someone with more experience update the 'release matrix?

My proposed insertion to release_matrix.js would be:

"pl":{"0": ['Linux_x86-64_install-deb',  'y', '154',
'Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_ast.tar.gz'],
"1": ['Linux_x86-64_install-rpm',  'y', '155',
'Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_Linux_x86-64_install-rpm_ast.tar.gz'],
"2": ['Linux_x86-64_langpack-deb', 'y', ' 13',
'Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_Linux_x86-64_langpack-deb_ast.tar.gz'],
"3": ['Linux_x86-64_langpack-rpm', 'y', ' 13',
'Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_Linux_x86-64_langpack-rpm_ast.tar.gz'],
"4": ['Linux_x86_install-deb', 'y', '146',
'Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_Linux_x86_install-deb_ast.tar.gz'],
"5": ['Linux_x86_install-rpm', 'y', '147',
'Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_Linux_x86_install-rpm_ast.tar.gz'],
"6": ['Linux_x86_langpack-deb','y', ' 13',
'Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_Linux_x86_langpack-deb_ast.tar.gz'],
"7": ['Linux_x86_langpack-rpm','y', ' 13',
'Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_Linux_x86_langpack-rpm_ast.tar.gz'],
"8": ['Mac_x86_install',   'y', '162',
'Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_MacOS_x86_install_ast.dmg'],
"9": ['Mac_x86_langpack',  'y', ' 13',
'Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_MacOS_x86_langpack_ast.dmg'],
   "10": ['Win_x86_install',   'y', '134',
'Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_Win_x86_install_ast.exe'],
   "11": ['Win_x86_langpack',  'y', ' 13',
'Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_Win_x86_langpack_ast.exe']},

But I am not sure, if this will be enough.



I made that change, but recommending the Polish rather than the
Asturian installs ;-)

We'll see if that is enough.



On my system (Windows 7 64bit) with Firefox Polish is still missing.



I think a corresponding replace of 'n' by 'y' in
ooo-site/trunk/content/download/languages.js is needed



I have committed and publish this change, but Polish is still missing.


I changed windows locale to Polish and green box on English site works.



Cool - we have made it finally.


on other download page is Polish too .. You ve got it !


Thx for taking care and testing.


Best regards, Oliver.





But even worse is that http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html
does not show any entry in the table in Internet Explorer 8

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Re: [RELEASE] Urgent - Polish is missing in the release matrix

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Dňa Tue, 01 Oct 2013 18:07:39 +0200 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann  
 napísal:



Hi,

On 01.10.2013 16:29, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:

Hi,

On 01.10.2013 16:22, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:

Hi,

On 01.10.2013 15:52, Rob Weir wrote:

On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
 wrote:

Hi,

it looks like that Polish is missing in the 'release matrix' -
ooo-site/trunk/content/download/release_matrix.js

Because I do not feel experienced enough, I am hesitating to change  
the

'release matrix'.
Can someone with more experience update the 'release matrix?

My proposed insertion to release_matrix.js would be:

"pl":{"0": ['Linux_x86-64_install-deb',  'y', '154',
'Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_ast.tar.gz'],
"1": ['Linux_x86-64_install-rpm',  'y', '155',
'Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_Linux_x86-64_install-rpm_ast.tar.gz'],
"2": ['Linux_x86-64_langpack-deb', 'y', ' 13',
'Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_Linux_x86-64_langpack-deb_ast.tar.gz'],
"3": ['Linux_x86-64_langpack-rpm', 'y', ' 13',
'Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_Linux_x86-64_langpack-rpm_ast.tar.gz'],
"4": ['Linux_x86_install-deb', 'y', '146',
'Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_Linux_x86_install-deb_ast.tar.gz'],
"5": ['Linux_x86_install-rpm', 'y', '147',
'Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_Linux_x86_install-rpm_ast.tar.gz'],
"6": ['Linux_x86_langpack-deb','y', ' 13',
'Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_Linux_x86_langpack-deb_ast.tar.gz'],
"7": ['Linux_x86_langpack-rpm','y', ' 13',
'Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_Linux_x86_langpack-rpm_ast.tar.gz'],
"8": ['Mac_x86_install',   'y', '162',
'Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_MacOS_x86_install_ast.dmg'],
"9": ['Mac_x86_langpack',  'y', ' 13',
'Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_MacOS_x86_langpack_ast.dmg'],
   "10": ['Win_x86_install',   'y', '134',
'Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_Win_x86_install_ast.exe'],
   "11": ['Win_x86_langpack',  'y', ' 13',
'Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_Win_x86_langpack_ast.exe']},

But I am not sure, if this will be enough.



I made that change, but recommending the Polish rather than the
Asturian installs ;-)

We'll see if that is enough.



On my system (Windows 7 64bit) with Firefox Polish is still missing.



I think a corresponding replace of 'n' by 'y' in
ooo-site/trunk/content/download/languages.js is needed



I have committed and publish this change, but Polish is still missing.


I changed windows locale to Polish and green box on English site works.



Best regards, Oliver.


Best regards, Oliver.


But even worse is that http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html
does not show any entry in the table in Internet Explorer 8

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Re: [RELEASE 4.0.1][Product Update Notification Service] updated XML feeds for the former versions to be notified about version 4.0.1

[Michal Hriň]

Dňa Mon, 30 Sep 2013 14:59:47 +0200 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann  
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Slovak and Czech download pages are ready

http://www.openoffice.org/sk/download

http://www.openoffice.org/cs/download

Regards,
Michal Hriň



Hi,

Status update and open questions!!!

Got feedback for
- Dutch
- German
- Italian
- Spanish
- Slovak

German, Italian and Spanish landing pages will be fine as I am being  
told.


Dutch landing page links to the default download page, but it talks  
about version 4.0.0.

Will this be changed for AOO 4.0.1 release?

Slovak landing page rework landing page is in progress.
Will it be finished right after the AOO 4.0.1 release?



Missing feedback for
- Chinese (simplified)
- Chinese (traditional)
- French
- Japanese

Chinese (simplified) landing page looks ok, but links to download page  
which does not show a download link at least in my environment (Win 7  
64bit, English, Firefox)

Are there changes needed for AOO 4.0.1 release?

Chinese (traditional) landing page looks ok, but links to  
http://www.openoffice.org/download/other-341.html for the download as  
far as I can see.

Is there a change in progress for AOO 4.0.1 release?

I have given the wrong link for the French landing page - it is  
http://www.openoffice.org/fr/Telecharger

French landing page links to AOO 4.0.0 packages.
Is there a change in progress for AOO 4.0.1 release?
My posts still did not reach users-fr@o.a.o - I do not see them in the  
mailing archive.


Japanese landing page links to sub page with links to AOO 4.0.0 packages.
Is there a change in progress for AOO 4.0.1 release?


Please provide feedback - Thanks in advance.


Best regards, Oliver.


On 27.09.2013 10:27, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:

Hi

On 20.09.2013 14:03, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:

Hi,

forgive me for writing in English, but this post goes to several native
language mailing lists and to dev@o.a.o and l10n@o.a.o.

I am currently preparing the update of the XML feeds for our product
update notification service for former OpenOffice versions (3.2.0,
3.2.1, 3.3.0, 3.4.0, 3.4.1, 4.0.0) in order to enable the notification
about new version 4.0.1

For most of the languages the user is directed by the update
notification to our main download side [1].
For the following languages the user is directed to the corresponding
native languages page:
- Chinese (simplified)
- Chinese (traditional)
- Dutch
- French
- German
- Italian
- Japanese
- Slovak
- Spanish

IMPORTANT:
Please drop me a short note, when the corresponding native langauge
pages has been updated after version 4.0.1 has been released
OR
drop me a short note, when no update to the native language page is
needed.



So far, I got feedback for
- German
- Spanish

Looking at the mail archives of general-ja@o.a.o, progetto-it@o.a.o and
users-fr@o.a.o reveals that my post did not reach the corresponding
mailing list.
Request to the corresponding mailing list moderators/admins: Could you
please check, why my post did not reach the mailing list.

I will now check the landing pages for the following languages. If from
my point of view the page needs to be updated for AOO 4.0.1 release and
if I got no feedback, I will change the download landing page for these
languages to the default download page to avoid user confusion.
- Chinese (simplified)
 http://www.openoffice.org/zh-cn
- Chinese (traditional)
 http://www.openoffice.org/zh-tw
- Dutch
 http://www.openoffice.org/nl/downloaden.html
- French
 http://www.openoffice.org/es/descargar
- Italian
 http://www.openoffice.org/it
- Japanese
 http://www.openoffice.org/ja
- Slovak
 http://www.openoffice.org/sk/download

Please give feedback.


Best regards, Oliver.



When I have collected the replies for all the above mentioned languages
I will enable the product update notification for version 4.0.1

BTW, if for your languages the user shall also be directed to a
corresponding native languages pages, then let me know this page. I  
will

include it in the update XML feeds.

[1] www.openoffice.org/download


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[WEBSITE] Planned time for site update

[Michal Hriň]

Hi,

it would be good to know:

- when will be r4.0.1 announced on web site?
- will be main download page modified?

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Re: [RELEASE 4.0.1][Product Update Notification Service] updated XML feeds for the former versions to be notified about version 4.0.1

[Michal Hriň]

Dňa Fri, 27 Sep 2013 10:27:12 +0200 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann  
 napísal:



Hi

On 20.09.2013 14:03, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:

Hi,

forgive me for writing in English, but this post goes to several native
language mailing lists and to dev@o.a.o and l10n@o.a.o.

I am currently preparing the update of the XML feeds for our product
update notification service for former OpenOffice versions (3.2.0,
3.2.1, 3.3.0, 3.4.0, 3.4.1, 4.0.0) in order to enable the notification
about new version 4.0.1

For most of the languages the user is directed by the update
notification to our main download side [1].
For the following languages the user is directed to the corresponding
native languages page:
- Chinese (simplified)
- Chinese (traditional)
- Dutch
- French
- German
- Italian
- Japanese
- Slovak
- Spanish

IMPORTANT:
Please drop me a short note, when the corresponding native langauge
pages has been updated after version 4.0.1 has been released
OR
drop me a short note, when no update to the native language page is  
needed.




So far, I got feedback for
- German
- Spanish

Looking at the mail archives of general-ja@o.a.o, progetto-it@o.a.o and  
users-fr@o.a.o reveals that my post did not reach the corresponding  
mailing list.
Request to the corresponding mailing list moderators/admins: Could you  
please check, why my post did not reach the mailing list.


I will now check the landing pages for the following languages. If from  
my point of view the page needs to be updated for AOO 4.0.1 release and  
if I got no feedback, I will change the download landing page for these  
languages to the default download page to avoid user confusion.

- Chinese (simplified)
http://www.openoffice.org/zh-cn
- Chinese (traditional)
http://www.openoffice.org/zh-tw
- Dutch
http://www.openoffice.org/nl/downloaden.html
- French
http://www.openoffice.org/es/descargar
- Italian
http://www.openoffice.org/it
- Japanese
http://www.openoffice.org/ja
- Slovak
http://www.openoffice.org/sk/download

Please give feedback.



Hi Oliver,

I don't find a time to have a look at new download page, so for this time
SK & CS download page are broken.

I try to look at it to end of week, so the problem is that I don't know  
nothing,

cause I don't have established work-flow for editing download page.

I need rework download page directly when is EN site finished, every  
change in EN DN site broke

my NL DN site.

Regards, Michal Hriň.



Best regards, Oliver.



When I have collected the replies for all the above mentioned languages
I will enable the product update notification for version 4.0.1

BTW, if for your languages the user shall also be directed to a
corresponding native languages pages, then let me know this page. I will
include it in the update XML feeds.

[1] www.openoffice.org/download


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Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.0.1 (RC3)

[Michal Hriň]

Dňa Sun, 22 Sep 2013 10:06:03 +0200 Jürgen Schmidt   
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Hi all,

this is a call for vote on releasing the RC3 release candidate as
Apache OpenOffice 4.0.1. This will be an important update release for
Apache OpenOffice 4.0 to fix some serious regressions and to introduce
some new languages (Basque, Khmer, Lithuaian, Polish, Serbian Cyrillic,
Swedish, Turkish, Vietnamese and Chinese Traditional). It is a further
key milestone to continue the success of OpenOffice.

This release candidate contains mainly fixes serious problems and
regressions and new languages. An over view can be found under:

http://people.apache.org/~jsc/developer-snapshots/snapshot/RC3_fixes_1513395_1524958.html

The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary
releases for 32 languages) and further information how to verify and
review Apache OpenOffice 4.0.1 can be found on the following wiki page:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds#DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-AOOSnapshot

The RC is based on the release branch AOO401, revision 1524958!

Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0.1.

The vote starts now and will be open until:

   UTC at noon on Wednesday, 25 September: 2013-09-25 12:00 UTC.

But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like
to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project
members.

   [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0.1
   [ ]  0 Don't care
   [ ] -1 Do not release this package because...



+1

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[BUGZILLA] How to close old issues ?

[Michal Hriň]

Hi,

I found some issues that can be closed (verified? status).

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=92297

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=62453

How can I do this ?

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Translation integration

[Michal Hriň]

Hi,

I am planning this weekend to play with .sdf files.
(converting, merging, etc.)

I found some links on wiki [1],[2].

Is this information still relevant ?
There are mentioned tool "gsicheck [3]", which Juergen mention early too.
Where can I download this tool ?

[1] http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Localization_for_developers
[2] http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Translation:General_Information
[3] http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Gsicheck

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Re: [RELEASE]: propose snapshot build for AOO 4.0.1

[Michal Hriň]

Dňa Thu, 22 Aug 2013 14:00:17 +0200 Jürgen Schmidt   
napísal:



On 8/22/13 1:29 PM, Michal Hriň wrote:

Dňa Thu, 22 Aug 2013 12:02:09 +0200 Jürgen Schmidt
 napísal:


On 8/22/13 11:51 AM, Michal Hriň wrote:

Dňa Thu, 22 Aug 2013 11:37:45 +0200 janI  napísal:


On 22 August 2013 11:33, Michal Hriň  wrote:


Dňa Thu, 22 Aug 2013 09:46:17 +0200 Jürgen Schmidt

napísal:

 Hi,


I propose a first snapshot build based on revision 1516374 on  
branch

AOO401.

This version will contain fixes for some of the proposed  
showstoppers
and 2 further languages zh-TW and pl. Other updated languages are  
not

yet updated and will be included in the next snapshot.

Khmer will be integrate when the problems are solved.

@Ariel, is it possible for you to prepare the Linux builds? If not
please let us know.

Juergen



What's the problem with other languages ? Why you could not
integrate it
to this
snapshot ?

Lot of improvements are in pootle server .. remember more dev.  
builds

are
made,
then translations arre better



I agree with jsc, to only do snapshot build with completed languages.
It is
quite a lot of work to get translations back from pootle into the
source
tree.

I hope we will  have a couple of snapshot builds before deadline, so
newly
finished languages can be built fast.




Look at pootle server at last activity .. there is lot of activity  
from

last release.
(i remember pt, fr, de, for me sk,cs . This improvements werent in
release)
I dont believe that there will be couple of snapshots ... to 6th
september remains only
2 weeks.
It is wasteing of cpu power to make all langue builds without language
update.


but I can't see issues for all of this languages. Nothing is included
automatically



Here is issue for pt approved by _you_
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122909

My non approved from yesterday,
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123073

For lot of languages aren't issues but lot of people _very asked_ you
(here on ML)
closely to 4.0 release for language update (me too), I can't find it in
mails.


yes and I requested issues for each of them. If that is too much than it
is not my problem. I have far enough to do. And I am not here to do
everything that can be done by everybody else as well.



OK. I understand. You are ignoring language without issue.
So what about updated PT and SK in this dev. build? :)


If it too much that anybody else create an issue who is familiar with
issuezilla than again it is not my problem. I use English versions only.



Speaker question: Do you think that translators are computer experts and
know how to use
issuezilla ?


I think it is no rocket science and can be done by people who use
Pootle. And if not they can ask on the mailing list that they probably  
read.




I know that nothing is done automatically and I am still ready to help
you with translations.
I can be your slave for one day (yesterday?) and update source code with
translations if you
say me how.


Perfect, the problem is that you need access to the Pootle server
directly and we should solve this specific detail first.



I can download all .po files from Pootle (as anybody else, it is not very  
effective),

it is not enough ?



Sorry if my response sounds too harsh.

Juergen




Regards,
Michal Hriň


Juergen




rgds
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Re: [RELEASE]: propose snapshot build for AOO 4.0.1

[Michal Hriň]

Dňa Thu, 22 Aug 2013 12:02:09 +0200 Jürgen Schmidt   
napísal:



On 8/22/13 11:51 AM, Michal Hriň wrote:

Dňa Thu, 22 Aug 2013 11:37:45 +0200 janI  napísal:


On 22 August 2013 11:33, Michal Hriň  wrote:


Dňa Thu, 22 Aug 2013 09:46:17 +0200 Jürgen Schmidt

napísal:

 Hi,


I propose a first snapshot build based on revision 1516374 on branch
AOO401.

This version will contain fixes for some of the proposed showstoppers
and 2 further languages zh-TW and pl. Other updated languages are not
yet updated and will be included in the next snapshot.

Khmer will be integrate when the problems are solved.

@Ariel, is it possible for you to prepare the Linux builds? If not
please let us know.

Juergen



What's the problem with other languages ? Why you could not
integrate it
to this
snapshot ?

Lot of improvements are in pootle server .. remember more dev. builds
are
made,
then translations arre better



I agree with jsc, to only do snapshot build with completed languages.
It is
quite a lot of work to get translations back from pootle into the  
source

tree.

I hope we will  have a couple of snapshot builds before deadline, so
newly
finished languages can be built fast.




Look at pootle server at last activity .. there is lot of activity from
last release.
(i remember pt, fr, de, for me sk,cs . This improvements werent in  
release)

I dont believe that there will be couple of snapshots ... to 6th
september remains only
2 weeks.
It is wasteing of cpu power to make all langue builds without language
update.


but I can't see issues for all of this languages. Nothing is included
automatically



Here is issue for pt approved by _you_
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122909

My non approved from yesterday,
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123073

For lot of languages aren't issues but lot of people _very asked_ you  
(here on ML)
closely to 4.0 release for language update (me too), I can't find it in  
mails.


Speaker question: Do you think that translators are computer experts and  
know how to use

issuezilla ?

I know that nothing is done automatically and I am still ready to help you  
with translations.
I can be your slave for one day (yesterday?) and update source code with  
translations if you

say me how.

Regards,
Michal Hriň


Juergen




rgds
jan I



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Re: [RELEASE]: propose snapshot build for AOO 4.0.1

[Michal Hriň]

Dňa Thu, 22 Aug 2013 11:37:45 +0200 janI  napísal:


On 22 August 2013 11:33, Michal Hriň  wrote:

Dňa Thu, 22 Aug 2013 09:46:17 +0200 Jürgen Schmidt  


napísal:

 Hi,


I propose a first snapshot build based on revision 1516374 on branch
AOO401.

This version will contain fixes for some of the proposed showstoppers
and 2 further languages zh-TW and pl. Other updated languages are not
yet updated and will be included in the next snapshot.

Khmer will be integrate when the problems are solved.

@Ariel, is it possible for you to prepare the Linux builds? If not
please let us know.

Juergen



What's the problem with other languages ? Why you could not  integrate  
it

to this
snapshot ?

Lot of improvements are in pootle server .. remember more dev. builds  
are

made,
then translations arre better



I agree with jsc, to only do snapshot build with completed languages. It  
is

quite a lot of work to get translations back from pootle into the source
tree.

I hope we will  have a couple of snapshot builds before deadline, so  
newly

finished languages can be built fast.




Look at pootle server at last activity .. there is lot of activity from  
last release.

(i remember pt, fr, de, for me sk,cs . This improvements werent in release)
I dont believe that there will be couple of snapshots ... to 6th september  
remains only

2 weeks.
It is wasteing of cpu power to make all langue builds without language  
update.



rgds
jan I



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Re: [RELEASE]: propose snapshot build for AOO 4.0.1

[Michal Hriň]

Dňa Thu, 22 Aug 2013 09:46:17 +0200 Jürgen Schmidt   
napísal:



Hi,

I propose a first snapshot build based on revision 1516374 on branch  
AOO401.


This version will contain fixes for some of the proposed showstoppers
and 2 further languages zh-TW and pl. Other updated languages are not
yet updated and will be included in the next snapshot.

Khmer will be integrate when the problems are solved.

@Ariel, is it possible for you to prepare the Linux builds? If not
please let us know.

Juergen


What's the problem with other languages ? Why you could not  integrate it  
to this

snapshot ?

Lot of improvements are in pootle server .. remember more dev. builds are  
made,

then translations arre better

-MH



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Re: [WEBSITE][BUG] Download script

[Michal Hriň]

Dňa Thu, 25 Jul 2013 22:25:10 +0200 Marcus (OOo)   
napísal:



Am 07/25/2013 10:06 PM, schrieb Michal Hriň:

Dňa Thu, 25 Jul 2013 00:11:53 +0200 Marcus (OOo) 
napísal:


Am 07/24/2013 11:17 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):

Am 07/24/2013 11:02 PM, schrieb Michal Hriň:
Dňa Wed, 24 Jul 2013 22:50:30 +0200 Michal Hri  


napísal:

And Marcus, when you will lookin' at it , please,
repair "Language name " to only "slovenčina" ..
Thanks.


You mean on the "other.html"?


OK, forget it. Found it. ;-)

But I remember our discussion from the past OOo project about a)
correct writing of sk + sl and b) how to differenciate between both
writings as they are very similar in their native languages. So, you
suggested the additional text to make it clear.

Do you want this to be changed now?



I remember this discussion (maybe I was misunderstood) but let this
question
opened ..

I would like to contact Slovak linguistic organization - they explain it
definitely.


OK, I'll wait.


Hi Marcus,

I have answer from Slovak institute of linguistics about name of my  
language ;).


"slovenčina" and "slovenský jazyk" are _synonyms_. This means that both  
are same.


slovenčina means Slovak / Slovakian and
slovenský jazy means Slovak language.

So, it is not necessary to change that name in script.

Regards,
Michal Hriň



- MH



Marcus





From: Marcus (OOo) 
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 10:13 PM
Subject: Re: [WEBSITE][BUG] Download script

Am 07/24/2013 09:45 PM, schrieb Michal Hriň:

Internet Explorer 10 and Windows 7 64bit is recognized by download
script as "Windows mobile device".


Please post the output of the analysis webpage:

http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html

Then I will have a look.

Thanks in advance.

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[Personal][Discuss][UX] Legacy

[Michal Hriň]

Hi,

today I remembered a Ribbon like UI with name _Project Renaissance_.
(just type to search engine "openoffice renaissance")
Do you remember it too ? What is whit it ?
I was never implemented ?

I read in our forums that may be good to implement _tabs_ from Symphony
to AOO.

Ideas ? :)

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Re: [WEBSITE][BUG] Download script

[Michal Hriň]

Dňa Thu, 25 Jul 2013 00:11:53 +0200 Marcus (OOo)   
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Am 07/24/2013 11:17 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):

Am 07/24/2013 11:02 PM, schrieb Michal Hriň:

Dňa Wed, 24 Jul 2013 22:50:30 +0200 Michal Hri 
napísal:

And Marcus, when you will lookin' at it , please,
repair "Language name " to only "slovenčina" ..
Thanks.


You mean on the "other.html"?


OK, forget it. Found it. ;-)

But I remember our discussion from the past OOo project about a) correct  
writing of sk + sl and b) how to differenciate between both writings as  
they are very similar in their native languages. So, you suggested the  
additional text to make it clear.


Do you want this to be changed now?



I remember this discussion (maybe I was misunderstood) but let this  
question

opened ..

I would like to contact Slovak linguistic organization - they explain it  
definitely.


- MH



Marcus





From: Marcus (OOo) 
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 10:13 PM
Subject: Re: [WEBSITE][BUG] Download script

Am 07/24/2013 09:45 PM, schrieb Michal Hriň:

Internet Explorer 10 and Windows 7 64bit is recognized by download
script as "Windows mobile device".


Please post the output of the analysis webpage:

http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html

Then I will have a look.

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Re: [WEBSITE][BUG] Download script

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Dňa Thu, 25 Jul 2013 00:16:16 +0200 Marcus (OOo)   
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Am 07/25/2013 12:10 AM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):

Am 07/24/2013 10:50 PM, schrieb Michal Hri:

Browser variables Values
navigator.appCodeName Mozilla
navigator.appName Microsoft Internet Explorer
navigator.appVersion 5.0 (compatible; MSIE 10.0; Windows NT 6.1;
WOW64; Trident/6.0; SLCC2; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.5.30729;
.NET CLR 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; .NET4.0C)
navigator.platform Win32
navigator.oscpu undefined
navigator.product undefined
navigator.productSub undefined
navigator.vendor undefined
navigator.vendorSub undefined
navigator.language undefined
navigator.browserLanguage cs-CZ
navigator.userLanguage sk-SK
navigator.systemLanguage sk-SK
navigator.userAgent Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; MSIE 10.0; Windows NT
6.1; WOW64; Trident/6.0; SLCC2; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR
3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; .NET4.0C)


"Center" is the problem:

First it will be tested if "windows" or win" is contained in
"navigator.platform". If yes, the "navigator.userAgent" will be checked
if "phone" or "moble" or "ce" is included.

(all converted into lower case)

And "ce" is included in "center". ;-)

I've deleted the query for "ce". Please test if this solves the problem.


I don't know if this is already published when you test, so please use  
this URL:


http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/

Marcus




OK, it is fine for now, if I'll find some bugs I'll contact you. :)
Thanks!

Regards,
- Michal Hriň




JavaScript functions/variables Values
Language name Slovenský jazyk (slovenčina)
Language ISO code sk
Language array data sk,Slovak,Slovenský jazyk
(slovenčina),y,http://www.openoffice.org/sk/
Platform name Windows mobile device
Mirror platform name
File name undefined
File extension
Checksum file (here for MD5) undefined
hasMirrorLink() true
getLink() http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html



From: Marcus (OOo)
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 10:13 PM
Subject: Re: [WEBSITE][BUG] Download script


Am 07/24/2013 09:45 PM, schrieb Michal Hriň:

Internet Explorer 10 and Windows 7 64bit is recognized by download
script as "Windows mobile device".


Please post the output of the analysis webpage:

http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html

Then I will have a look.

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Re: [WEBSITE][BUG] Download script

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Dňa Wed, 24 Jul 2013 22:50:30 +0200 Michal Hri   
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Browser variables  Values
navigator.appCodeName  Mozilla
navigator.appName  Microsoft Internet Explorer
navigator.appVersion  5.0 (compatible; MSIE 10.0; Windows NT 6.1; WOW64;  
Trident/6.0; SLCC2; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR  
3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; .NET4.0C)

navigator.platform  Win32
navigator.oscpu  undefined
navigator.product  undefined
navigator.productSub  undefined
navigator.vendor  undefined
navigator.vendorSub  undefined
navigator.language  undefined
navigator.browserLanguage  cs-CZ
navigator.userLanguage  sk-SK
navigator.systemLanguage  sk-SK
navigator.userAgent  Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; MSIE 10.0; Windows NT 6.1;  
WOW64; Trident/6.0; SLCC2; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET  
CLR 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; .NET4.0C)

JavaScript functions/variables Values
Language name  Slovenský jazyk (slovenčina)
Language ISO code  sk
Language array data  sk,Slovak,Slovenský jazyk  
(slovenčina),y,http://www.openoffice.org/sk/

Platform name  Windows mobile device
Mirror platform name
File name  undefined
File extension
Checksum file (here for MD5)  undefined
hasMirrorLink()  true
getLink()  http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html




And Marcus, when you will lookin' at it , please,
repair "Language name " to only "slovenčina" ..
Thanks.




 From: Marcus (OOo) 
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 10:13 PM
Subject: Re: [WEBSITE][BUG] Download script

Am 07/24/2013 09:45 PM, schrieb Michal Hriň:

Internet Explorer 10 and Windows 7 64bit is recognized by download
script as "Windows mobile device".


Please post the output of the analysis webpage:

http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html

Then I will have a look.

Thanks in advance.

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[WEBSITE][BUG] Download script

[Michal Hriň]

Hi,

Internet Explorer 10 and Windows 7 64bit is recognized by download
script as "Windows mobile device".

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Re: Some NL homepages that need updating for 4.0

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Hi all,

Slovak and Czech NL pages are updated, form yesterday.

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Re: [VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC)

[Michal Hriň]

Hi,

[X]  0 Don't care

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Re: [DISCUSS][VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC)

[Michal Hriň]

Dňa Sun, 14 Jul 2013 09:42:03 +0200 Juergen Schmidt  
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Am Sonntag, 14. Juli 2013 um 06:35 schrieb imacat:

On 2013/07/13 20:52, Ariel Constenla-Haile said:
> On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 12:20:32PM +0200, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
> > Am 07/13/2013 05:14 AM, schrieb Ariel Constenla-Haile:
> > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 11:54 PM,  
imacat wrote:

> > > > Sorry. I did not see Traditional Chinese version. Did I missed
> > > > something on the Traditional Chinese version?
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > UI translation is not complete:  
https://translate.apache.org/zh_TW/aoo40/

> >
> > I can see that 97% is translated. Not that bad. Do we have an
> > agreement that we need 100% for a release?
> >
>
>
> http://markmail.org/message/pxgvjuw2j3ukqsom
>
> Concerns should have been risen at that time, it was discussed on the
> mailing list, and properly tagged ("if it does not happen on the  
mailing

> list...").
>
>
> > I'm asking because I really don't know it and in former OOo times we
> > have done releases for languages with at least 80% translated UI
> > [1]. So, maybe a change that I haven't seen in the last weeks.
> >
>
>
> For this particular case, the translation of the main 4.0.0 feature is
> incomplete  
https://translate.apache.org/zh_TW/aoo40/svx/source/sidebar/
> How serious would it be to release this translation in such a state?  
The
> same applies to other languages released in 3.4.* but not in this  
4.0.0

> RC.
>


Hmm... I see the problem with side bar translation. And I'm very
sorry that I was in my research paper and did not notice the previous
discussion. However, there are several issues of concern:

1. I am going to give a talk in our largest local open source
conference (COSCUP 2013, http://coscup.org/) on 8/3, and plan to
announce OpenOffice 4.0. It is the first talk after the key notes. It
would be very embarrassing to announce it without a local version  
released.


2. There would be a large-scale deployment around August or September
(6000-7000) in a government department, and they are planning to join
our development force in order to fix some Chinese problems in
governmental use. If OpenOffice 4.0 Traditional Chinese version is not
available at that time, we could only give them 3.4.1, which their
development could not be based on.

I've asked our local community to help the translation in urgent.
If we can finish the Traditional Chinese sidebar translation with
certain amount, could it be OK to release it?

let translate the UI First and then we can figure out what's possible.  
Hopefully some other languages can continue the translation as well and  
we can think about a language only release where I am a big fan of to  
support local communities.


But in general we have discussed it and I would have not released German  
(my mother language) if the UI translation would have been not complete.
Just to make sure that we need active local communities who participate  
in the project or at least in the translation part.




Hi Juergen,

Yust today German translation is done. I and French community made some  
changes

in translations.
Did you think about rebuilding some (sk, fr, de maybe cn) binaries ?

- Michal Hriň

It would be even better if the help would be translated as well but that  
is a much higher burden and we are more flexible here.


Juergen


>
>
> Regards


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Re: Any opinions on requested showstopper 122614?

[Michal Hriň]

Dňa Tue, 02 Jul 2013 19:30:44 +0200 Regina Henschel  
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Hi,

Rob Weir schrieb:
On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Jürgen Schmidt   
wrote:

Hi,

any opinions on requested showstopper
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122614

It seems to be quite easy to disable the help agent and I have no real
opinion on it. I can disable it quite fast by myself but can live with  
a

different default as well.

Well it's no real showstopper but a fix would be straight forward.



Is a regression, a very minor one.


It is no regression, but the help agent was broken in AOO3.4 and that is  
fixed now.


   But it is something that every

user will see, so this is likely to lead to support emails, etc.


Here I agree and the help agent should be off as default.



I'm not really understand here, but Yes +1 light bulb should be disabled
by default, cause when you "click on it" it opens help files which not
translated ... It's a problem ...

+1 ... disable lightbulb by default

MH


I

think we want the impression of 4.0 to focus on the new sidepanel, not
be distracted by retro light bulbs popping up.   So if it is easy to
fix maybe we can include it?


Kind regards
Regina

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Re: [BUG] Toolbar - Formatting enabled by default

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Dňa Thu, 13 Jun 2013 16:46:00 +0200 Michal Hriň   
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Hi,

When I started the new dev build 1491858 I saw an eyecandy bug.

Panel "Formating" is enabled by default, but the functions on this panel  
are in the sidebar.


(context menu "view -> toolbars -> formating")

I think about this .. Example:

- Name of font: sans ...
- font height: 12 px
  - bold, italic, underlined

  - paragraphs

...


Should be this panel disabled by default ?

Regards,
Michal Hriň



The same panel is enabled by default in writer, calc, in draw is panel at  
the bottom of the screen with shapes, but the shapes functions is in the  
sidebar too.


I mean with this that .. when the user for the first time runs product  
then he/she will have the same functions in more toolbars ..






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[BUG] Toolbar - Formatting enabled by default

[Michal Hriň]

Hi,

When I started the new dev build 1491858 I saw an eyecandy bug.

Panel "Formating" is enabled by default, but the functions on this panel  
are in the sidebar.


(context menu "view -> toolbars -> formating")

I think about this .. Example:

- Name of font: sans ...
- font height: 12 px
 - bold, italic, underlined

 - paragraphs

...


Should be this panel disabled by default ?

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Re: [VOTE] Logo selection for Apache OpenOffice 4.0

[Michal Hriň]

HERE IS THE BALLOT:

My ranked preferences for the AOO 4.0 logo are:

1st Choice: none of the above

2nd Choice: Samer Mansour

3rd Choice:  
https://cwiki.apache.org/OOOUSERS/02-design-proposal-samer-mansour-20130303.html


4th Choice: Logo-01

5th Choice:


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Re: Translators needed for Wizard Templates Titles

[Michal Hriň]

Dňa Thu, 16 May 2013 15:03:47 +0200 Ariel Constenla-Haile  
 napísal:



On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 02:47:11AM -0300, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:

On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 07:02:18PM -0300, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
> Hello *,
>
> Bug 110378 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=110378 found
> a total of 292 templates without localized Title, in 11 Languages (es,
> eu, fr, it, ja, ko, pt-BR, sk, sv, zh-CN, zh-TW).
>
> The affected languages are:
>
> - Currently supported languages:
>
> * es, Spanish
> * fr, French
> * it, Italian
> * ja, Japanese
> * pt-BR, Portugese (Brazil)
> * sk, Slovak
> * zh-CN, Chinese (simplified)
> * zh-TW, Chinese (traditional)
>
> - Currently unsupported languages:
>
> * eu, Basque
> * ko, Korean
> * sv, Swedish

Translations are still needed for

- Chinese (traditional)
- Portugese (Brazil)

The translation is rather simple, almost 20/30 words, of kind "Orange",
"Classic", "Modern".


Just a reminder that (after more than 8 months) translations are still
missing.


Regards



Ariel, I don't understand the file for Slovak in the Bug 110378 is  
translated
(or it is translated bad ?). The Fax Wizard in OOo341 don't has blank  
fields.


Templates in source code  
../openoffice/trunk/main/extras/source/templates/wizard/..

looks translated too.

I missed something?

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Re: "Easy hack" for website

[Michal Hriň]

Dňa Wed, 17 Apr 2013 00:03:53 +0200 Andrea Pescetti   
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On 15/04/2013 Michal Hriň wrote:

I added little patch to BZ, can you check it ?
If everything will be all right, I'll continue with this work.


Michal, remember you are a committer. So, when you are confident, you  
can use "svn commit" and commit your code directly to the repository.  
The website will be actually updated only when someone (can be you, but  
any other committer too) publishes your changes.




Yes, yesterday I used SVN and BZ for the first time .. so I needed some
help. (& Rob's link about svn basics fell to benefit )


So, if it is more comfortable for you, you can commit your changes and  
ask on the list for someone to review and publish them. This should be  
more straightforward than generating and submitting a patch.




All right :)

Regards, Michal Hriň



Regards,
   Andrea.

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Re: "Easy hack" for website

[Michal Hriň]

Dňa Mon, 15 Apr 2013 00:29:09 +0200 Rob Weir  napísal:


On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Michal Hriň  wrote:


Hi Rob,

I started work on this bug 122003, because I'm not familiar with
Subversion,
I need little help.

I'd like to create a "big patch" as mentioned in bug description but I
don't know how
to do it through svn.

- I made "svn co ..." for downloading whole ooo-site
- I'm edited some files and some I removed

and what is the next step ?
"svn diff  something" ?



Yes.  Details here:
http://openoffice.apache.org/svn-basics.html#creating_and_submitting_patches


Be sure to do this from the root of the ooo-site directory.

You can then zip this and attach it to the BZ issue.  I'll then review  
and

commit.


I added little patch to BZ, can you check it ?
If everything will be all right, I'll continue with this work.

Regards, Michal Hriň.





Thanks,

-Rob




Regards,
Michal Hriň

Dňa Fri, 05 Apr 2013 00:49:07 +0200 Rob Weir   
napísal:



 I just entered a BZ issue :


https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=122003<https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122003>

"Missing  tag on many webpages"

If there are any new volunteers looking for how to get started, this is
one
easy way that does not require any programming.  We need someone to  
review
a bunch of HTML pages and add titles to them.  It should help these  
pages

be listed more appropriately in Google, Bing and other search engines.

There are 874 pages missing titles, so this is something where we can
divide up the work as well.

Regards,

-Rob



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Re: "Easy hack" for website

[Michal Hriň]

Hi Rob,

I started work on this bug 122003, because I'm not familiar with  
Subversion,

I need little help.

I'd like to create a "big patch" as mentioned in bug description but I  
don't know how

to do it through svn.

- I made "svn co ..." for downloading whole ooo-site
- I'm edited some files and some I removed

and what is the next step ?
"svn diff  something" ?

Regards,
Michal Hriň

Dňa Fri, 05 Apr 2013 00:49:07 +0200 Rob Weir  napísal:


I just entered a BZ issue :

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122003

"Missing  tag on many webpages"

If there are any new volunteers looking for how to get started, this is  
one
easy way that does not require any programming.  We need someone to  
review

a bunch of HTML pages and add titles to them.  It should help these pages
be listed more appropriately in Google, Bing and other search engines.

There are 874 pages missing titles, so this is something where we can
divide up the work as well.

Regards,

-Rob


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Re: "Easy hack" for website

[Michal Hriň]

Hi Rob,

I can take a look at "sk && cs" NL pages, but I don't have a lot of 
free time now.
(and I got broken heating in my office where I got dedicated apache 
working machine :( )

When is the deadline ?

Regards,
Michal Hriň

-Original Message-
From: Rob Weir 
To: dev 
Sent: Fri, Apr 5, 2013 3:20 pm
Subject: Re: "Easy hack" for website


On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 11:39 PM, Samer Mansour  
wrote:


Rob could you possibly export the pages missing titles in a CSV, one 

per

line?
I'll check google analytics to see if there is a page visit export 

feature

and then prioritize.



The data is from the Google Web Master Tools.   Anyone doing site-wide
website work should probably have access.  Want access?

I just took the current version and attached it to the BZ issue.



I would also surface NL homepages for example, even if a language 

doesn't

as many hit, the home page should be at least titled.



Some of these pages are NL pages, for example:

http://www.openoffice.org/cs/bugs.html

Figuring out a title for these is a little harder, but maybe the first
header on the page would be a good indication.



I would document the output in the cWiki so that as pages are 

completed
volunteers can mark done in a column. Slash if I get time I would 

tackle

some as well.



I think the most efficient way to accomplish this this task is with an
editor that can search for these files by a regex and load them
automatically, rather than process a list of URLs in a file.  If done 
that

way I bet pages could be processed in 15-20 seconds each.



As a side note if the goal is to improve in search results, let me 

talk to
some colleagues that are familiar with SEO if they have any high ROI 

steps.

ie. is there a meta tag like description that is highly used by search
engines.




Maybe a topic for a separate thread.  In general we're doing very good 
on
the key searches. I have a small list of specific queries I've been 
working
to improve our position for, and I'm getting some success.  But it has 
been
more about producing useful, relevant, targeted content.  Meta 
description
gives you maybe a little edge, but the site is pretty well optimized 
that

already.

Regards,

-Rob




On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:

> I just entered a BZ issue :
>
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122003
>
> "Missing  tag on many webpages"
>
> If there are any new volunteers looking for how to get started, 

this is

one
> easy way that does not require any programming.  We need someone to
review
> a bunch of HTML pages and add titles to them.  It should help these 

pages
> be listed more appropriately in Google, Bing and other search 

engines.

>
> There are 874 pages missing titles, so this is something where we 

can

> divide up the work as well.
>
> Regards,
>
> -Rob
>



 


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Re: Help with OOO project

[Michal Hriň]

Dňa Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:49:57 +0100 Alexandro Colorado   
napísal:



On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Jan Vrba  wrote:


Dear Sir / Madam,

I would like to help you with Apache Open Office project. My native
language is Czech, I have an English Advanced Certificate from Cambridge
and JLPT N4 (Japanese Lang.). Therefore I can translate something for  
you.




Hi Jan,

if you are interested in translation the better mailing list for you would  
be l10n.


http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html#localization-mailing-list-public

For the first time you can read some informations about organization

http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/intro-contributing.html

and  here are some informations about translation

http://openoffice.apache.org/translate.html

In this time product/program is translated on 99% into Czech language.
If you are not commiter you can make suggestion to pootle or ask Juergen  
for "po files"

and finish/review translation offline.

If you have some knowledge about HTML you can translate/create Czech  
national language web page

which is now little outdated.

Welcome in project!

Regards,
Michal Hriň



Moreover I can help you with testing new version of Apache OpenOffice  
for

PC or Android (if you are planning to make Android version).

If you are interested, please feel free to contact me and I can send you
my CV.



Hi Jan, welcome!

Please make sure to read the introduction modules of the QA project,  
which

include instructions about testing and how we organized ourselves through
test cases.
http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/intro-qa.html

Also please check the piece on Testing like, setting up virtual OS via
Virtualbox or other emulation software and getting our nightly builds and
Snapshot build:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds






I look forward to hearing from you.

Your faithfully,
Jan Vrba








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