Re: [UPDATE SERVICE] New landingpage for languages not included in AOO

2014-07-28 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 07/15/2014 11:54 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):

Am 07/15/2014 11:40 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:

On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Marcus (OOo)
wrote:

Am 07/15/2014 02:09 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:


On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 5:42 PM, Marcus (OOo)
wrote:


Hi all,

some time ago Oliver told me that it would be great to have a landing
webpage for languages for that we have not (yet) a release but in the
past
with OpenOffice.org.

To reach also these users an update service could be activated and
referred
to this landing page.

To get the best out of this_

- Show the users that there is a new AOO version.

( - Maybe also a short text + link for more details that OpenOffice is
now
part of Apache as it could be that this is not obvious for users with
such
old versions.)

- Convince the users to download this new version even when their
language
is not available.

- Gain new helpers for localization work. The user can help to bring
her/his
language into AOO.

I volunteer to create such a webpage.



We have two similar pages already, though they could use some updating:

http://www.openoffice.org/projects/untranslated.html

http://www.openoffice.org/development/releases/eol-nl.html

We used the 2nd one when we declared End of Life for AOO 3.4



I'll update them. Also if it's possible to combine both as 3 pages
are too
much.



Three is a lot. I think untranslated.html was used to notify pre AOO
versions of OpenOffice where we did not have support for their
language in AOO. If we had support for their language we would just
offer them a normal update notification. But for the others we sent
them to this page. The eol-nl.html version was used in a similar way,
but a slightly stronger message when we declared EOL on OpenOffice.org
3.3.0 and earlier. This can be combined, I think. We never really
deployed these fully, but just used them for a couple of weeks to test
the reaction. They are called from the update notification service,
so if we change the URL we'll need to update it there as well.

I think legacy/thankyou.html page is hard coded in OOo installs. It
is called after installing. So we don't want to change that URL.


OK


In the last 30 days we've had:

45,713 hits to legacy/thankyou.html

And zero hits to untranslated.html or eol-nl.html.


Great, you have just answered my next questions (how many hits and which
page should survive) ;-).


if nobody objects I will delete the both 0 hits pages and combine the 
whole content + updates in "legacy/thankyou.html".


Marcus

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Re: [UPDATE SERVICE] New landingpage for languages not included in AOO

2014-07-16 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 15/07/2014 Rob Weir wrote:

I think legacy/thankyou.html page is hard coded in OOo installs.  It
is called after installing.  So we don't want to change that URL.


To be precise, that URL is not hard coded. But we are redirecting to it 
the following hard coded URLs from ancient versions of OpenOffice:

https://registration2.services.openoffice.org/
http://registration2.services.openoffice.org/
http://survey.services.openoffice.org/

They were used to "register" the product after installation and possibly 
for a survey shown to users who were uninstalling it.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: [UPDATE SERVICE] New landingpage for languages not included in AOO

2014-07-15 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 07/15/2014 11:40 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:

On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Marcus (OOo)  wrote:

Am 07/15/2014 02:09 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:


On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 5:42 PM, Marcus (OOo)
wrote:


Hi all,

some time ago Oliver told me that it would be great to have a landing
webpage for languages for that we have not (yet) a release but in the
past
with OpenOffice.org.

To reach also these users an update service could be activated and
referred
to this landing page.

To get the best out of this_

- Show the users that there is a new AOO version.

( - Maybe also a short text + link for more details that OpenOffice is
now
part of Apache as it could be that this is not obvious for users with
such
old versions.)

- Convince the users to download this new version even when their
language
is not available.

- Gain new helpers for localization work. The user can help to bring
her/his
language into AOO.

I volunteer to create such a webpage.



We have two similar pages already, though they could use some updating:

http://www.openoffice.org/projects/untranslated.html

http://www.openoffice.org/development/releases/eol-nl.html

We used the 2nd one when we declared End of Life for AOO 3.4



I'll update them. Also if it's possible to combine both as 3 pages are too
much.



Three is a lot.   I think untranslated.html was used to notify pre AOO
versions of OpenOffice where we did not have support for their
language in AOO.   If we had support for their language we would just
offer them a normal update notification.  But for the others we sent
them to this page. The eol-nl.html version was used in a similar way,
but a slightly stronger message when we declared EOL on OpenOffice.org
3.3.0 and earlier.  This can be combined, I think.  We never really
deployed these fully, but just used them for a couple of weeks to test
the reaction.  They are called from the update notification service,
so if we change the URL we'll need to update it there as well.

I think legacy/thankyou.html page is hard coded in OOo installs.  It
is called after installing.  So we don't want to change that URL.


OK


In the last 30 days we've had:

45,713 hits to legacy/thankyou.html

And zero hits to untranslated.html or eol-nl.html.


Great, you have just answered my next questions (how many hits and which 
page should survive) ;-).


Thanks

Marcus


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Re: [UPDATE SERVICE] New landingpage for languages not included in AOO

2014-07-15 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Marcus (OOo)  wrote:
> Am 07/15/2014 02:09 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>
>> On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 5:42 PM, Marcus (OOo)
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> some time ago Oliver told me that it would be great to have a landing
>>> webpage for languages for that we have not (yet) a release but in the
>>> past
>>> with OpenOffice.org.
>>>
>>> To reach also these users an update service could be activated and
>>> referred
>>> to this landing page.
>>>
>>> To get the best out of this_
>>>
>>> - Show the users that there is a new AOO version.
>>>
>>> ( - Maybe also a short text + link for more details that OpenOffice is
>>> now
>>> part of Apache as it could be that this is not obvious for users with
>>> such
>>> old versions.)
>>>
>>> - Convince the users to download this new version even when their
>>> language
>>> is not available.
>>>
>>> - Gain new helpers for localization work. The user can help to bring
>>> her/his
>>> language into AOO.
>>>
>>> I volunteer to create such a webpage.
>>>
>>
>> We have two similar pages already, though they could use some updating:
>>
>> http://www.openoffice.org/projects/untranslated.html
>>
>> http://www.openoffice.org/development/releases/eol-nl.html
>>
>> We used the 2nd one when we declared End of Life for AOO 3.4
>
>
> I'll update them. Also if it's possible to combine both as 3 pages are too
> much.
>

Three is a lot.   I think untranslated.html was used to notify pre AOO
versions of OpenOffice where we did not have support for their
language in AOO.   If we had support for their language we would just
offer them a normal update notification.  But for the others we sent
them to this page. The eol-nl.html version was used in a similar way,
but a slightly stronger message when we declared EOL on OpenOffice.org
3.3.0 and earlier.  This can be combined, I think.  We never really
deployed these fully, but just used them for a couple of weeks to test
the reaction.  They are called from the update notification service,
so if we change the URL we'll need to update it there as well.

I think legacy/thankyou.html page is hard coded in OOo installs.  It
is called after installing.  So we don't want to change that URL.

In the last 30 days we've had:

45,713 hits to legacy/thankyou.html

And zero hits to untranslated.html or eol-nl.html.

Regards,

-Rob

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Re: [UPDATE SERVICE] New landingpage for languages not included in AOO

2014-07-15 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 07/15/2014 02:09 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:

On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 5:42 PM, Marcus (OOo)  wrote:

Hi all,

some time ago Oliver told me that it would be great to have a landing
webpage for languages for that we have not (yet) a release but in the past
with OpenOffice.org.

To reach also these users an update service could be activated and referred
to this landing page.

To get the best out of this_

- Show the users that there is a new AOO version.

( - Maybe also a short text + link for more details that OpenOffice is now
part of Apache as it could be that this is not obvious for users with such
old versions.)

- Convince the users to download this new version even when their language
is not available.

- Gain new helpers for localization work. The user can help to bring her/his
language into AOO.

I volunteer to create such a webpage.



We have two similar pages already, though they could use some updating:

http://www.openoffice.org/projects/untranslated.html

http://www.openoffice.org/development/releases/eol-nl.html

We used the 2nd one when we declared End of Life for AOO 3.4


I'll update them. Also if it's possible to combine both as 3 pages are 
too much.


Thanks

Marcus


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Re: [UPDATE SERVICE] New landingpage for languages not included in AOO

2014-07-15 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 07/15/2014 08:18 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

On 14/07/2014 Marcus (OOo) wrote:

some time ago Oliver told me that it would be great to have a landing
webpage for languages for that we have not (yet) a release but in the
past with OpenOffice.org.


It's a good idea, since these versions are not being notified of
security updates and all other recent improvements.


ah, good point. Should be defintely mentioned.


I volunteer to create such a webpage.


This page can probably be repurposed to that:
http://www.openoffice.org/legacy/thankyou.html
(we already redirect to it some legacy links, possibly the user survey
from early 3.x versions).


Great, an existing page. And it's time to update this when looking at 
the version number ;-) - which I'll do roughly right after this post. 
More to come.


Marcus


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Re: [UPDATE SERVICE] New landingpage for languages not included in AOO

2014-07-15 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 5:42 PM, Marcus (OOo)  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> some time ago Oliver told me that it would be great to have a landing
> webpage for languages for that we have not (yet) a release but in the past
> with OpenOffice.org.
>
> To reach also these users an update service could be activated and referred
> to this landing page.
>
> To get the best out of this_
>
> - Show the users that there is a new AOO version.
>
> ( - Maybe also a short text + link for more details that OpenOffice is now
> part of Apache as it could be that this is not obvious for users with such
> old versions.)
>
> - Convince the users to download this new version even when their language
> is not available.
>
> - Gain new helpers for localization work. The user can help to bring her/his
> language into AOO.
>
> I volunteer to create such a webpage.
>

We have two similar pages already, though they could use some updating:

http://www.openoffice.org/projects/untranslated.html

http://www.openoffice.org/development/releases/eol-nl.html

We used the 2nd one when we declared End of Life for AOO 3.4

-Rob

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Re: [UPDATE SERVICE] New landingpage for languages not included in AOO

2014-07-14 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 14/07/2014 Marcus (OOo) wrote:

some time ago Oliver told me that it would be great to have a landing
webpage for languages for that we have not (yet) a release but in the
past with OpenOffice.org.


It's a good idea, since these versions are not being notified of 
security updates and all other recent improvements.



I volunteer to create such a webpage.


This page can probably be repurposed to that:
http://www.openoffice.org/legacy/thankyou.html
(we already redirect to it some legacy links, possibly the user survey 
from early 3.x versions).


Regards,
  Andrea.

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[UPDATE SERVICE] New landingpage for languages not included in AOO

2014-07-14 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Hi all,

some time ago Oliver told me that it would be great to have a landing 
webpage for languages for that we have not (yet) a release but in the 
past with OpenOffice.org.


To reach also these users an update service could be activated and 
referred to this landing page.


To get the best out of this_

- Show the users that there is a new AOO version.

( - Maybe also a short text + link for more details that OpenOffice is 
now part of Apache as it could be that this is not obvious for users 
with such old versions.)


- Convince the users to download this new version even when their 
language is not available.


- Gain new helpers for localization work. The user can help to bring 
her/his language into AOO.


I volunteer to create such a webpage.

Marcus


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