RE: Thinking of joining OpenOffice as a developer
Ah, found it. As I said separately when I couldn't find this message, it is best to put the actually-used build commands in the source-code tree itself, so that no matter how things change over time, each release has what was used to build the project-distributed binaries with it. - Dennis > -Original Message- > From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@apache.org] > Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2015 15:09 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Thinking of joining OpenOffice as a developer > > Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > >> From: Patricia Shanahan > >> I started with > >> > https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide/Building_o > >> n_Windows, > >> but hit some issues and want to make sure I'm using the right guide. > > The first line of that page says > > "This page is archived for historical reasons only. It is no longer > maintained and information may not be current." > > If you missed it, many others may miss it. I've now created a wiki > account for you (you will shortly receive a temporary password by mail) > so that you can fix this and/or other issues you may find: of course > this is best done by someone who is relatively new to the project. > > > There may be additional information. The easiest way is to find out > exactly what the build parameters were for the 4.1.2 release (which > should be in the source code archive for that release). > > No, they are not part of the source release. They never were. But this > time I do have specs of all the systems and build flags we sued, so that > we can aim at having a reproducible build. I'll put them somewhere in > SVN (or would the wiki be better?). > > Regards, >Andrea. > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
RE: Thinking of joining OpenOffice as a developer
Patricia, I am in constant despair of what it takes to use Windows to build a Windows install of AOO, if only to confirm the build that was used in a release. If you have succeeded, can you share your build parameters and anything you learned about the instructions with regard to dependencies that must be satisfied for the build to work? Since the Windows buildbot is not even running any longer, it is apparently necessary to endure this gauntlet to even be able to test anything. My beginners-mind is failing me on this one. - Dennis (aka orc...@apache.org) > -Original Message- > From: Patricia Shanahan [mailto:p...@acm.org] > Sent: Monday, November 2, 2015 03:11 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Thinking of joining OpenOffice as a developer > > On 11/2/2015 2:33 AM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 12:57 AM, Patricia Shanahan <p...@acm.org> > wrote: > ... > >> "Install cygwin, 32bit version" > >> > >> Do I really have to go to 32-bit Cygwin? I have a fine 64-bit Cygwin > >> already running on my 16 GB memory system. > >> > >> > > I am not sure what impact the bitness of Cygwin has on the build, but > as I > > discovered recently, AOO doesn't build on Win64. > > > > How are your efforts with AOO development going otherwise Patricia? Do > you > > need any help or development ideas? > > > > I am still working through the instructions for getting ready to build - > I have some other non-software projects that will take a lot of my time > this week. > > By "Win64" do you mean any 64-bit MS-Windows system? If so, that is a > very serious issue. I do development on a 64-bit Windows 8.1 system. Has > anyone successfully built on that OS? > > I am experimenting with installing Linux on other computers, but none of > them has the compute power, memory, or monitor size for serious > development. > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Thinking of joining OpenOffice as a developer
I have finished my non-software project, so building AOO is now at the top of my project list. I am working through the instructions, keeping a log of issues and difficulties I encounter. One thought to consider: Is is possible that difficulty building AOO in one of the commonest desktop environments, 64-bit MS-Windows, is one of the reasons for difficulty attracting developers? More and more developers are unfamiliar with Bash and similar shells. The requirement to use Cygwin is not going to stop me because I've been using UNIX-like shells for over 30 years, but I would much prefer to use an IDE. Patricia On 11/7/2015 9:32 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: Patricia, I am in constant despair of what it takes to use Windows to build a Windows install of AOO, if only to confirm the build that was used in a release. If you have succeeded, can you share your build parameters and anything you learned about the instructions with regard to dependencies that must be satisfied for the build to work? Since the Windows buildbot is not even running any longer, it is apparently necessary to endure this gauntlet to even be able to test anything. My beginners-mind is failing me on this one. - Dennis (aka orc...@apache.org) -Original Message- From: Patricia Shanahan [mailto:p...@acm.org] Sent: Monday, November 2, 2015 03:11 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Thinking of joining OpenOffice as a developer On 11/2/2015 2:33 AM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 12:57 AM, Patricia Shanahan <p...@acm.org> wrote: ... "Install cygwin, 32bit version" Do I really have to go to 32-bit Cygwin? I have a fine 64-bit Cygwin already running on my 16 GB memory system. I am not sure what impact the bitness of Cygwin has on the build, but as I discovered recently, AOO doesn't build on Win64. How are your efforts with AOO development going otherwise Patricia? Do you need any help or development ideas? I am still working through the instructions for getting ready to build - I have some other non-software projects that will take a lot of my time this week. By "Win64" do you mean any 64-bit MS-Windows system? If so, that is a very serious issue. I do development on a 64-bit Windows 8.1 system. Has anyone successfully built on that OS? I am experimenting with installing Linux on other computers, but none of them has the compute power, memory, or monitor size for serious development. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
RE: Thinking of joining OpenOffice as a developer
> -Original Message- > From: Patricia Shanahan [mailto:p...@acm.org] > Sent: Saturday, November 7, 2015 18:40 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Thinking of joining OpenOffice as a developer > > I have finished my non-software project, so building AOO is now at the > top of my project list. > > I am working through the instructions, keeping a log of issues and > difficulties I encounter. > > One thought to consider: Is is possible that difficulty building AOO in > one of the commonest desktop environments, 64-bit MS-Windows, is one of > the reasons for difficulty attracting developers? [orcmid] I share your suspicion, but I have no hard data other than my own reaction. Now that there are the Visual Studio Community Editions, it is difficult to justify all of the contortions there are between Cygwin's "file system" and the native system that the cl.exe and related tools are going to be depended on from Cygwin. I also note, but have been drawn away from it for other duties, that Windows batch scripts will run just fine under Cygwin and those might be a better way to bridge even from CygWin to the Microsoft tools and libraries. (I worked this out with MSYS2 and it seems to work just fine with CygWin too.) Those batch scripts can then use the developer setups for paths and whatnot and not mess with the Windows registry. Which is to say, even if CygWin is used for the overall build process, there are better ways to switch back and forth between the Windows tools and the CygWin utilities used. > > More and more developers are unfamiliar with Bash and similar shells. > The requirement to use Cygwin is not going to stop me because I've been > using UNIX-like shells for over 30 years, but I would much prefer to use > an IDE. > > Patricia > > On 11/7/2015 9:32 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > > Patricia, > > > > I am in constant despair of what it takes to use Windows to build a > > Windows install of AOO, if only to confirm the build that was used in > > a release. > > > > If you have succeeded, can you share your build parameters and > > anything you learned about the instructions with regard to > > dependencies that must be satisfied for the build to work? > > > > Since the Windows buildbot is not even running any longer, it is > > apparently necessary to endure this gauntlet to even be able to test > > anything. > > > > My beginners-mind is failing me on this one. > > > > - Dennis (aka orc...@apache.org) > > > >> -Original Message- From: Patricia Shanahan > >> [mailto:p...@acm.org] Sent: Monday, November 2, 2015 03:11 To: > >> dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Thinking of joining > >> OpenOffice as a developer > >> > >> On 11/2/2015 2:33 AM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: > >>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 12:57 AM, Patricia Shanahan > >>> <p...@acm.org> > >> wrote: ... > >>>> "Install cygwin, 32bit version" > >>>> > >>>> Do I really have to go to 32-bit Cygwin? I have a fine 64-bit > >>>> Cygwin already running on my 16 GB memory system. > >>>> > >>>> > >>> I am not sure what impact the bitness of Cygwin has on the build, > >>> but > >> as I > >>> discovered recently, AOO doesn't build on Win64. > >>> > >>> How are your efforts with AOO development going otherwise > >>> Patricia? Do > >> you > >>> need any help or development ideas? > >>> > >> > >> I am still working through the instructions for getting ready to > >> build - I have some other non-software projects that will take a > >> lot of my time this week. > >> > >> By "Win64" do you mean any 64-bit MS-Windows system? If so, that is > >> a very serious issue. I do development on a 64-bit Windows 8.1 > >> system. Has anyone successfully built on that OS? > >> > >> I am experimenting with installing Linux on other computers, but > >> none of them has the compute power, memory, or monitor size for > >> serious development. > >> > >> > >> - > >> > >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > > > > > - > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Thinking of joining OpenOffice as a developer
On Mon, 2 Nov 2015 03:10:40 -0800 Patricia Shanahanwrote: > On 11/2/2015 2:33 AM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 12:57 AM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: > ... > >> "Install cygwin, 32bit version" > >> > >> Do I really have to go to 32-bit Cygwin? I have a fine 64-bit Cygwin > >> already running on my 16 GB memory system. > >> > >> > > I am not sure what impact the bitness of Cygwin has on the build, but as I > > discovered recently, AOO doesn't build on Win64. > > > > How are your efforts with AOO development going otherwise Patricia? Do you > > need any help or development ideas? > > > > I am still working through the instructions for getting ready to build - > I have some other non-software projects that will take a lot of my time > this week. > > By "Win64" do you mean any 64-bit MS-Windows system? If so, that is a > very serious issue. I do development on a 64-bit Windows 8.1 system. Has > anyone successfully built on that OS? > > I am experimenting with installing Linux on other computers, but none of > them has the compute power, memory, or monitor size for serious development. > My thoughts are that the most important factor in development is monitor size/usage. I use a double monitor setup - 1280x1024 and 1650x1050 and it is quite adequate. If I were to replace a monitor now, I'd consider a 2650 x 1440. For memory, all my machines are 4GB (old machines) and their chips run at about 4000 Bogomips per core (2 core CPUs). The major manifestation of slow CPUs will be long compile times; editing is OK if you keep the number of concurrent processes low (IDE code editor, email and Browser would be ny typical setup, running on Xubuntu 15.10) -- Rory O'Farrell - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Thinking of joining OpenOffice as a developer
On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 12:57 AM, Patricia Shanahanwrote: > On 10/29/2015 10:56 AM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: > >> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 7:32 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: >> > ... > >> What is the best guide to building AOO on Windows 8? >>> >>> I started with >>> >>> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide/Building_on_Windows >>> , >>> but hit some issues and want to make sure I'm using the right guide. >>> >>> >> Hi Patricia >> >> I used this building guide on Windows: >> >> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step#Windows_7 >> >> If you have any problems building feel free to mail this list. Windows >> doesn't always build cleanly for me either. >> >> Oh and a big welcome to AOO. I like Apache River too btw :-). >> > > "Install cygwin, 32bit version" > > Do I really have to go to 32-bit Cygwin? I have a fine 64-bit Cygwin > already running on my 16 GB memory system. > > I am not sure what impact the bitness of Cygwin has on the build, but as I discovered recently, AOO doesn't build on Win64. How are your efforts with AOO development going otherwise Patricia? Do you need any help or development ideas?
Re: Thinking of joining OpenOffice as a developer
On 11/2/2015 2:33 AM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 12:57 AM, Patricia Shanahanwrote: ... "Install cygwin, 32bit version" Do I really have to go to 32-bit Cygwin? I have a fine 64-bit Cygwin already running on my 16 GB memory system. I am not sure what impact the bitness of Cygwin has on the build, but as I discovered recently, AOO doesn't build on Win64. How are your efforts with AOO development going otherwise Patricia? Do you need any help or development ideas? I am still working through the instructions for getting ready to build - I have some other non-software projects that will take a lot of my time this week. By "Win64" do you mean any 64-bit MS-Windows system? If so, that is a very serious issue. I do development on a 64-bit Windows 8.1 system. Has anyone successfully built on that OS? I am experimenting with installing Linux on other computers, but none of them has the compute power, memory, or monitor size for serious development. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Thinking of joining OpenOffice as a developer
On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 1:10 PM, Patricia Shanahanwrote: > On 11/2/2015 2:33 AM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: > >> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 12:57 AM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: >> > ... > >> "Install cygwin, 32bit version" >>> >>> Do I really have to go to 32-bit Cygwin? I have a fine 64-bit Cygwin >>> already running on my 16 GB memory system. >>> >>> >>> I am not sure what impact the bitness of Cygwin has on the build, but as >> I >> discovered recently, AOO doesn't build on Win64. >> >> How are your efforts with AOO development going otherwise Patricia? Do you >> need any help or development ideas? >> >> > I am still working through the instructions for getting ready to build - I > have some other non-software projects that will take a lot of my time this > week. > > By "Win64" do you mean any 64-bit MS-Windows system? If so, that is a very > serious issue. I do development on a 64-bit Windows 8.1 system. Has anyone > successfully built on that OS? > > You can build 32 bit AOO binaries on 64-bit Windows, but you cannot build 64 bit AOO Windows binaries anywhere, it still needs to be ported there. > I am experimenting with installing Linux on other computers, but none of > them has the compute power, memory, or monitor size for serious development. > > Linux virtualises well, and builds significantly faster than Windows.
Re: Thinking of joining OpenOffice as a developer
On 10/29/2015 8:06 AM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Hello; First of all, a warm welcome to Patricia. Java developers are particularly welcome at this stage! Just IMHO, the C++ side of AOO is either under-control or too-ugly-to care-about, so we would do good focus more on the Java parts, which are also somewhat ugly but still promising. Once you get the code to build, some things that could be looked into: - We are using some very old Java code for things that are in modern JDKs: Stax is one of them .. it looks very easy to get rid of. Apache Commons is another one (LibreOffice recently replaced it), Rhino could be replaced with project Nashorn. - Then there’s a lot of space for new Java development: We could make better use of Apache Lucene and tomcat. We could probably find uses for Apache POI We could probably use pdfbox to import pdf (just speculating, we have some C code for that that still needs fixes) I am sure there is more to do, just hope that gives you some hints ;) That gives me a starting place. I was trying to decide whether to begin by learning AOO building or to begin with C++ review and update. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Thinking of joining OpenOffice as a developer
Hello; First of all, a warm welcome to Patricia. Java developers are particularly welcome at this stage! Just IMHO, the C++ side of AOO is either under-control or too-ugly-to care-about, so we would do good focus more on the Java parts, which are also somewhat ugly but still promising. Once you get the code to build, some things that could be looked into: - We are using some very old Java code for things that are in modern JDKs: Stax is one of them .. it looks very easy to get rid of. Apache Commons is another one (LibreOffice recently replaced it), Rhino could be replaced with project Nashorn. - Then there’s a lot of space for new Java development: We could make better use of Apache Lucene and tomcat. We could probably find uses for Apache POI We could probably use pdfbox to import pdf (just speculating, we have some C code for that that still needs fixes) I am sure there is more to do, just hope that gives you some hints ;) Pedro. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
RE: Thinking of joining OpenOffice as a developer
Thanks, Patricia, > -Original Message- > From: Patricia Shanahan [mailto:p...@acm.org] > Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2015 10:32 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Thinking of joining OpenOffice as a developer > [ ... ] > What is the best guide to building AOO on Windows 8? > > I started with > https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide/Building_o > n_Windows, > but hit some issues and want to make sure I'm using the right guide. [orcmid] There may be additional information. The easiest way is to find out exactly what the build parameters were for the 4.1.2 release (which should be in the source code archive for that release). Then there might be adjustments for building from the SVN trunk. That is what I would attempt myself. Expert developers who built the Windows versions can say more about what works to get a build that matches what is used for a distribution (and a debugging-build equivalent). - Dennis > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Thinking of joining OpenOffice as a developer
On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 7:32 PM, Patricia Shanahanwrote: > On 10/29/2015 9:12 AM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: > >> On 10/29/2015 8:06 AM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: >> >>> Hello; >>> >>> First of all, a warm welcome to Patricia. Java developers are >>> particularly welcome at this stage! >>> >>> Just IMHO, the C++ side of AOO is either under-control or >>> too-ugly-to care-about, so we would do good focus more on the >>> Java parts, which are also somewhat ugly but still promising. >>> >>> Once you get the code to build, some things that could be looked into: >>> >>> - We are using some very old Java code for things that are in modern >>> JDKs: >>> Stax is one of them .. it looks very easy to get rid of. >>> Apache Commons is another one (LibreOffice recently replaced it), >>> Rhino could be replaced with project Nashorn. >>> >>> - Then there’s a lot of space for new Java development: >>> >>> We could make better use of Apache Lucene and tomcat. >>> We could probably find uses for Apache POI >>> We could probably use pdfbox to import pdf (just speculating, >>> we have some C code for that that still needs fixes) >>> >>> I am sure there is more to do, just hope that gives you some hints ;) >>> >> >> That gives me a starting place. I was trying to decide whether to begin >> by learning AOO building or to begin with C++ review and update. >> > > What is the best guide to building AOO on Windows 8? > > I started with > https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide/Building_on_Windows, > but hit some issues and want to make sure I'm using the right guide. > Hi Patricia I used this building guide on Windows: https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step#Windows_7 If you have any problems building feel free to mail this list. Windows doesn't always build cleanly for me either. Oh and a big welcome to AOO. I like Apache River too btw :-). Damjan
Re: Thinking of joining OpenOffice as a developer
On 10/29/2015 9:12 AM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: On 10/29/2015 8:06 AM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Hello; First of all, a warm welcome to Patricia. Java developers are particularly welcome at this stage! Just IMHO, the C++ side of AOO is either under-control or too-ugly-to care-about, so we would do good focus more on the Java parts, which are also somewhat ugly but still promising. Once you get the code to build, some things that could be looked into: - We are using some very old Java code for things that are in modern JDKs: Stax is one of them .. it looks very easy to get rid of. Apache Commons is another one (LibreOffice recently replaced it), Rhino could be replaced with project Nashorn. - Then there’s a lot of space for new Java development: We could make better use of Apache Lucene and tomcat. We could probably find uses for Apache POI We could probably use pdfbox to import pdf (just speculating, we have some C code for that that still needs fixes) I am sure there is more to do, just hope that gives you some hints ;) That gives me a starting place. I was trying to decide whether to begin by learning AOO building or to begin with C++ review and update. What is the best guide to building AOO on Windows 8? I started with https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide/Building_on_Windows, but hit some issues and want to make sure I'm using the right guide. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Thinking of joining OpenOffice as a developer
Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: From: Patricia Shanahan I started with https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide/Building_o n_Windows, but hit some issues and want to make sure I'm using the right guide. The first line of that page says "This page is archived for historical reasons only. It is no longer maintained and information may not be current." If you missed it, many others may miss it. I've now created a wiki account for you (you will shortly receive a temporary password by mail) so that you can fix this and/or other issues you may find: of course this is best done by someone who is relatively new to the project. There may be additional information. The easiest way is to find out exactly what the build parameters were for the 4.1.2 release (which should be in the source code archive for that release). No, they are not part of the source release. They never were. But this time I do have specs of all the systems and build flags we sued, so that we can aim at having a reproducible build. I'll put them somewhere in SVN (or would the wiki be better?). Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Thinking of joining OpenOffice as a developer
On 10/29/2015 3:08 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: From: Patricia Shanahan I started with https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide/Building_o n_Windows, but hit some issues and want to make sure I'm using the right guide. The first line of that page says "This page is archived for historical reasons only. It is no longer maintained and information may not be current." If you missed it, many others may miss it. I've now created a wiki account for you (you will shortly receive a temporary password by mail) so that you can fix this and/or other issues you may find: of course this is best done by someone who is relatively new to the project. Thanks. When I am sure I have the right guide, I'll edit the old one to add a prominent link to the correct one. I got the temporary password. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Thinking of joining OpenOffice as a developer
On 10/29/2015 10:56 AM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 7:32 PM, Patricia Shanahanwrote: ... What is the best guide to building AOO on Windows 8? I started with https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide/Building_on_Windows, but hit some issues and want to make sure I'm using the right guide. Hi Patricia I used this building guide on Windows: https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step#Windows_7 If you have any problems building feel free to mail this list. Windows doesn't always build cleanly for me either. Oh and a big welcome to AOO. I like Apache River too btw :-). "Install cygwin, 32bit version" Do I really have to go to 32-bit Cygwin? I have a fine 64-bit Cygwin already running on my 16 GB memory system. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
RE: Thinking of joining OpenOffice as a developer
While that sentiment was expressed on a thread about another topic, it should be understood that the idea of *increasing* Java dependency does not reflect an agreed project direction. Before that could be considered, it seems to me that a number of issues around Java dependency need to be addressed first, especially those that introduce crashers in unexpected ways. This should be on a thread of its own, now that I think about it. The current usability issues need to be called out and their impact appreciated. - Dennis > -Original Message- > From: Patricia Shanahan [mailto:p...@acm.org] > Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 20:38 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Thinking of joining OpenOffice as a developer > > > > On 10/28/2015 8:18 PM, F C. Costero wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 7:37 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > >> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 6:22 PM, Patricia Shanahan <p...@acm.org> > wrote: > >> > >>> I am a very experienced programmer and computer architect, now > retired. > >> My > >>> current strongest language is Java, but I have programmed in many > >> languages > >>> and can learn them as needed. My last professional C++ work was in > the > >>> 1980's. > >>> > >>> Although I am Chair of the Apache River PMC, the types of work it > >>> currently needs, other than the facilitation and reporting I do as > Chair, > >>> are outside my areas of expertise. I have time to do some > programming > >>> elsewhere. > >>> > >>> I have been an OpenOffice user - I started using StarOffice at Sun > around > >>> 2000 - but more recently I've switched to LibreOffice because of > lack of > >>> OpenOffice releases. I am now downloading OpenOffice 4.1.2. > >>> > >>> I have become aware that OpenOffice needs more developers. Despite > the > >>> rustiness of my C++, I hope I can help. If so, how should I get > started? > >>> > >>> > >> You have wonderful experience, Patricia! Thank you for your interest. > >> Stay tuned. We'll be discussing plans and tasks for the future very > soon. > >> Meanwhile, we could certainly use some "architect" eyes on our code. > Please > >> weigh in as you see fit. > >> > >> -- > >> - > - > >> MzK > >> > >> “The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.” > >>--Lao Tzu > >> > > Hello Patricia, > > You might be interested in the comments in favor of Java use in > AOO made > > on this list by Damjan Jovanovic on Oct 15. I'm sorry I can't link to > them > > at the moment. > > Francis > > > > Thanks. I've just read the thread. I certainly prefer Java to C++, but I > rarely have a machine capable of running OpenOffice that does not have > at least one JRE installed. > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Thinking of joining OpenOffice as a developer
On 10/28/2015 8:18 PM, F C. Costero wrote: On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 7:37 PM, Kay Schenkwrote: On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 6:22 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: I am a very experienced programmer and computer architect, now retired. My current strongest language is Java, but I have programmed in many languages and can learn them as needed. My last professional C++ work was in the 1980's. Although I am Chair of the Apache River PMC, the types of work it currently needs, other than the facilitation and reporting I do as Chair, are outside my areas of expertise. I have time to do some programming elsewhere. I have been an OpenOffice user - I started using StarOffice at Sun around 2000 - but more recently I've switched to LibreOffice because of lack of OpenOffice releases. I am now downloading OpenOffice 4.1.2. I have become aware that OpenOffice needs more developers. Despite the rustiness of my C++, I hope I can help. If so, how should I get started? You have wonderful experience, Patricia! Thank you for your interest. Stay tuned. We'll be discussing plans and tasks for the future very soon. Meanwhile, we could certainly use some "architect" eyes on our code. Please weigh in as you see fit. -- -- MzK “The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.” --Lao Tzu Hello Patricia, You might be interested in the comments in favor of Java use in AOO made on this list by Damjan Jovanovic on Oct 15. I'm sorry I can't link to them at the moment. Francis Thanks. I've just read the thread. I certainly prefer Java to C++, but I rarely have a machine capable of running OpenOffice that does not have at least one JRE installed. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Thinking of joining OpenOffice as a developer
On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 6:22 PM, Patricia Shanahanwrote: > I am a very experienced programmer and computer architect, now retired. My > current strongest language is Java, but I have programmed in many languages > and can learn them as needed. My last professional C++ work was in the > 1980's. > > Although I am Chair of the Apache River PMC, the types of work it > currently needs, other than the facilitation and reporting I do as Chair, > are outside my areas of expertise. I have time to do some programming > elsewhere. > > I have been an OpenOffice user - I started using StarOffice at Sun around > 2000 - but more recently I've switched to LibreOffice because of lack of > OpenOffice releases. I am now downloading OpenOffice 4.1.2. > > I have become aware that OpenOffice needs more developers. Despite the > rustiness of my C++, I hope I can help. If so, how should I get started? > > You have wonderful experience, Patricia! Thank you for your interest. Stay tuned. We'll be discussing plans and tasks for the future very soon. Meanwhile, we could certainly use some "architect" eyes on our code. Please weigh in as you see fit. -- -- MzK “The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.” --Lao Tzu
Re: Thinking of joining OpenOffice as a developer
On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 7:37 PM, Kay Schenkwrote: > On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 6:22 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: > > > I am a very experienced programmer and computer architect, now retired. > My > > current strongest language is Java, but I have programmed in many > languages > > and can learn them as needed. My last professional C++ work was in the > > 1980's. > > > > Although I am Chair of the Apache River PMC, the types of work it > > currently needs, other than the facilitation and reporting I do as Chair, > > are outside my areas of expertise. I have time to do some programming > > elsewhere. > > > > I have been an OpenOffice user - I started using StarOffice at Sun around > > 2000 - but more recently I've switched to LibreOffice because of lack of > > OpenOffice releases. I am now downloading OpenOffice 4.1.2. > > > > I have become aware that OpenOffice needs more developers. Despite the > > rustiness of my C++, I hope I can help. If so, how should I get started? > > > > > You have wonderful experience, Patricia! Thank you for your interest. > Stay tuned. We'll be discussing plans and tasks for the future very soon. > Meanwhile, we could certainly use some "architect" eyes on our code. Please > weigh in as you see fit. > > -- > -- > MzK > > “The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.” > --Lao Tzu > Hello Patricia, You might be interested in the comments in favor of Java use in AOO made on this list by Damjan Jovanovic on Oct 15. I'm sorry I can't link to them at the moment. Francis