Re: Problem accessing web site

2013-07-21 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 07/05/2013 04:28 PM, schrieb Donald Whytock:

On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de  wrote:


Am 07/04/2013 11:05 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:

  On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Dave Fisherdave2w...@comcast.net

  wrote:



On Jul 4, 2013, at 8:18 AM, Pedro Marquez wrote:

  Dear Sir:


I´ve been trying to download the OpenOffice software from:
http://www.openoffice.org/es/**descargar/http://www.openoffice.org/es/descargar/

However, it always respond with:




  http://sourceforge.net/**projects/openofficeorg.mirror/**

files/localized/es/3.4http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/localized/es/3.4
.


1/Apache_OpenOffice_**incubating_3.4.1_Win_x86_**
install_es.exe/download

Server not found



I´ve asked to my systems administrator about, and he tells me that the
security system “Fortinet” we use blocks it. What can I do?



(1) You can download from here:

http://www.apache.org/dist/**incubator/ooo/files/localized/**es/3.4.1/http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/es/3.4.1/

But you don't get the mirror system offered by sourceforge.net to our
project (and many other non-Apache.)

(2) Ask Fortinet or your admin to whitelist sourceforge.net.



Marcus/Kay - Have we thought more about offering downloads from the
Apache
Mirror system for these exceptional cases?




No, up to today there were really just very few complains about downloads
that do not work due to network restrictions of companies or ISPs.

But ...


  Well, we can certainly think about it now. Marcus is really the lead in

this. Maybe it would be as simple as changing the description of the
alternate link from:

*Get all platforms, languages, language packs*

to

*Problems downloading? Get all platforms, languages, language packs.*


and offer

http://www.apache.org/disthtt**p://www.apache.org/dist/**
incubator/ooo/files/localized/**es/3.4.1/http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/es/3.4.1/




as another alternative...somewhere



... yes, somewhere else is good because the green box is already full
enough of additional links, of course IMHO. :-)

I could think of a section on the other.html webpage:

- Another entry in the TOC
- Some text and link to the Apache server below the tables
- Additionally a link on the main download webpage,
  in link bar on the right


  It's good that you sent this. I for one had forgotten that we need to

change this link off incubator for 4.0. It needs to be added to our 4.0
tasks.



Too late ;-) , it's already gone as we can see with the current snapshot
builds.

Marcus




The set of Apache mirrors offers different domains and domain types, some
of which might be more easily reached through restrictive firewalls.  At my
company I'm able to download from SourceForge but some other
open/public/shareware/freeware sites are blocked.  Plus, some businesses
are blocked but university domains are generally reachable.  So, yes,
getting on the Apache mirrors might make AOO more accessible for
downloading.


Finally, I've added some hints:

New link entry in the nav bar on the right side:
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index.html

New TOC entry and text section:
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/other.html

If you see improvements just tell me.

Marcus


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Re: Problem accessing web site

2013-07-21 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Marcus (OOo) wrote:

Am 07/05/2013 04:28 PM, schrieb Donald Whytock:

getting on the Apache mirrors might make AOO more accessible for
downloading.


Finally, I've added some hints:
New link entry in the nav bar on the right side:
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index.html
New TOC entry and text section:
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/other.html


Don't the Apache mirrors only contain checksums? Out of the 5 links 
offered for Italy at

http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-closer.cgi/openoffice/
3 have no openoffice content at all (404), 2 only have some sha256 
checksums, and this may be due to propagation.


But also the master
http://www.eu.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.0.0/binaries/it/
contains just the checksums, not the actual files.

Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Problem accessing web site

2013-07-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:
 Marcus (OOo) wrote:

 Am 07/05/2013 04:28 PM, schrieb Donald Whytock:

 getting on the Apache mirrors might make AOO more accessible for
 downloading.


 Finally, I've added some hints:
 New link entry in the nav bar on the right side:
 http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index.html
 New TOC entry and text section:
 http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/other.html


 Don't the Apache mirrors only contain checksums? Out of the 5 links offered
 for Italy at
 http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-closer.cgi/openoffice/
 3 have no openoffice content at all (404), 2 only have some sha256
 checksums, and this may be due to propagation.

 But also the master
 http://www.eu.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.0.0/binaries/it/
 contains just the checksums, not the actual files.


That's what was discussed with Infra.   apache.org/dist would contain
source distribution, KEYS and MD5/SHA256/ASC for all files, including
for the binaries.  But it would not contain the binaries.

-Rob

 Regards,
   Andrea.


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Re: Problem accessing web site

2013-07-21 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 07/21/2013 04:20 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:

On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Andrea Pescettipesce...@apache.org  wrote:

Marcus (OOo) wrote:


Am 07/05/2013 04:28 PM, schrieb Donald Whytock:


getting on the Apache mirrors might make AOO more accessible for
downloading.



Finally, I've added some hints:
New link entry in the nav bar on the right side:
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index.html
New TOC entry and text section:
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/other.html



Don't the Apache mirrors only contain checksums? Out of the 5 links offered
for Italy at
http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-closer.cgi/openoffice/
3 have no openoffice content at all (404), 2 only have some sha256
checksums, and this may be due to propagation.

But also the master
http://www.eu.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.0.0/binaries/it/
contains just the checksums, not the actual files.



That's what was discussed with Infra.   apache.org/dist would contain
source distribution, KEYS and MD5/SHA256/ASC for all files, including
for the binaries.  But it would not contain the binaries.


Ah, right. It's the externaldist directory:

http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-closer.cgi/externaldist/openoffice/

However, the closer.cgi doesn't work with this and I don't know how to 
extend this. Does someone else?


Marcus


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Re: Problem accessing web site

2013-07-04 Thread Kay Schenk
On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 8:18 AM, Pedro Marquez
pmarq...@itchihuahua.edu.mxwrote:

 Dear Sir:

 I´ve been trying to download the OpenOffice software from:
 http://www.openoffice.org/es/descargar/

 However, it always respond with:




 http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/localized/es/3.4.
 1/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.1_Win_x86_install_es.exe/download

 Server not found



 I´ve asked to my systems administrator about, and he tells me that the
 security system “Fortinet” we use blocks it. What can I do?

 Thank you in advance,

 -Pedro Marquez, Prof.


This link works fine for me ... My only  suggestion would be to contact
your system admins and/or internet service provider about why they're
preventing downloads from SourceForge.



-- 
-
MzK

If you stick with a vision, it might not all work,
 but some of it will be absolute genius.
   -- Kim Cattrall


Re: Problem accessing web site

2013-07-04 Thread Dave Fisher

On Jul 4, 2013, at 8:18 AM, Pedro Marquez wrote:

 Dear Sir:
 
 I´ve been trying to download the OpenOffice software from:
 http://www.openoffice.org/es/descargar/
 
 However, it always respond with: 
 
 
 
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/localized/es/3.4.
 1/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.1_Win_x86_install_es.exe/download
 
 Server not found
 
 
 
 I´ve asked to my systems administrator about, and he tells me that the
 security system “Fortinet” we use blocks it. What can I do?

(1) You can download from here:

http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/es/3.4.1/

But you don't get the mirror system offered by sourceforge.net to our project 
(and many other non-Apache.)

(2) Ask Fortinet or your admin to whitelist sourceforge.net.



Marcus/Kay - Have we thought more about offering downloads from the Apache 
Mirror system for these exceptional cases?

Regards,
Dave



 
 Thank you in advance,
 
 -Pedro Marquez, Prof.
 


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Re: Problem accessing web site

2013-07-04 Thread Kay Schenk
On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote:


 On Jul 4, 2013, at 8:18 AM, Pedro Marquez wrote:

  Dear Sir:
 
  I´ve been trying to download the OpenOffice software from:
  http://www.openoffice.org/es/descargar/
 
  However, it always respond with:
 
 
 
 
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/localized/es/3.4
 .
  1/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.1_Win_x86_install_es.exe/download
 
  Server not found
 
 
 
  I´ve asked to my systems administrator about, and he tells me that the
  security system “Fortinet” we use blocks it. What can I do?

 (1) You can download from here:

 http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/es/3.4.1/

 But you don't get the mirror system offered by sourceforge.net to our
 project (and many other non-Apache.)

 (2) Ask Fortinet or your admin to whitelist sourceforge.net.

 

 Marcus/Kay - Have we thought more about offering downloads from the Apache
 Mirror system for these exceptional cases?


Well, we can certainly think about it now. Marcus is really the lead in
this. Maybe it would be as simple as changing the description of the
alternate link from:

*Get all platforms, languages, language packs*

to

*Problems downloading? Get all platforms, languages, language packs.*


and offer

http://www.apache.org/disthttp://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/es/3.4.1/

as another alternative...somewhere

It's good that you sent this. I for one had forgotten that we need to
change this link off incubator for 4.0. It needs to be added to our 4.0
tasks.


 Regards,
 Dave



 
  Thank you in advance,
 
  -Pedro Marquez, Prof.
 


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 but some of it will be absolute genius.
   -- Kim Cattrall


Re: Problem accessing web site

2013-07-04 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 07/04/2013 11:05 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:

On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Dave Fisherdave2w...@comcast.net  wrote:



On Jul 4, 2013, at 8:18 AM, Pedro Marquez wrote:


Dear Sir:

I´ve been trying to download the OpenOffice software from:
http://www.openoffice.org/es/descargar/

However, it always respond with:





http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/localized/es/3.4
.

1/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.1_Win_x86_install_es.exe/download

Server not found



I´ve asked to my systems administrator about, and he tells me that the
security system “Fortinet” we use blocks it. What can I do?


(1) You can download from here:

http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/es/3.4.1/

But you don't get the mirror system offered by sourceforge.net to our
project (and many other non-Apache.)

(2) Ask Fortinet or your admin to whitelist sourceforge.net.



Marcus/Kay - Have we thought more about offering downloads from the Apache
Mirror system for these exceptional cases?


No, up to today there were really just very few complains about 
downloads that do not work due to network restrictions of companies or ISPs.


But ...


Well, we can certainly think about it now. Marcus is really the lead in
this. Maybe it would be as simple as changing the description of the
alternate link from:

*Get all platforms, languages, language packs*

to

*Problems downloading? Get all platforms, languages, language packs.*


and offer

http://www.apache.org/disthttp://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/es/3.4.1/

as another alternative...somewhere


... yes, somewhere else is good because the green box is already full 
enough of additional links, of course IMHO. :-)


I could think of a section on the other.html webpage:

- Another entry in the TOC
- Some text and link to the Apache server below the tables
- Additionally a link on the main download webpage,
 in link bar on the right


It's good that you sent this. I for one had forgotten that we need to
change this link off incubator for 4.0. It needs to be added to our 4.0
tasks.


Too late ;-) , it's already gone as we can see with the current snapshot 
builds.


Marcus


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