[dev] CSpace download at Chip-Magazin

2006-07-31 Thread thomasasta
Hi

there is already a big magazin-feature for CSpace in the CIP Magazin

http://www.chip.de/downloads/c1_downloads_20717069.html

and see the pictures here

http://www.chip.de/bildergalerie/c1_bildergalerie_v1_20716876.html

:-)

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[dev] Problems building openoffice (OOO_2_0_3) for Mandirva 2006

2006-07-31 Thread
When building openoffice (OOO_2_0_3) for Mandriva 2006 x86_64 it gives this 
error:

   at com.jclark.xsl.sax.Driver.transformFile(com.jclark.xsl.sax.XSLProcessor, 
c   
   
om.jclark.xsl.sax.OutputMethodHandlerImpl, java.io.File, java.io.File, 
java.io.F   
   
ile) 
(/home/mmodem/rpm/BUILD/ooo-build/build/OOO_2_0_3/solver/680/unxlngx6.pro/l 

 
ib/libxt.jar.so)
   at com.jclark.xsl.sax.Driver.main(java.lang.String[]) 
(/home/mmodem/rpm/BUILD 
 
/ooo-build/build/OOO_2_0_3/solver/680/unxlngx6.pro/lib/libxt.jar.so)
   at .main (/usr/lib64/libgij.so.6.0.0)
   at .__libc_start_main (/lib64/tls/libc-2.3.6.so)
dmake:  Error code 1, while 
making '../../../../unxlngx6.pro/misc/registry/data/
  
org/openoffice/Inet.xcu'
'---* tg_merge.mk *---'

ERROR: Error 65280 occurred while 
making /home/mmodem/rpm/BUILD/ooo-build/build/  

OOO_2_0_3/officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice
make: ** [stamp/build] Erro 1

Any help?
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Re: Re: Re: [dev] Adding a buddylist / Instant Mesenger to openoffice

2006-07-31 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi thomasasta,

On Fri, Jul 28, 2006 at 15:21:34 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
> > So you're not talking about the product OpenOffice.org application suite
> > to add code to have CSpace integrated, but some OOo CD-ROM instead that
> > should bundle it? This is beyond developer's control. Talk to the OOo CD
> > distributors instead.
> 
> Who is making the Open Office CD?

What is "the Open Office CD"? Btw, note that the product's name is
OpenOffice.org.

> Why should they add a program, which
> is not from open office? I just want to suggest that next to
> Calculator and word process there is an official Instant messenger
> from Openoffice.

Going to http://distribution.openoffice.org/cdrom/index.html#cdrom I see
over 300 CD distributors listed. Which one are you talking about? You'll
have to talk to them directly. Citing from that page:

| Note: OpenOffice.org makes no claims about the contents of any CD-ROM
| you may purchase from a distributor listed here. We list these only as
| a courtesy to the community.


> CSpace is serverless and non-commercial so total decentral and democratic.
> I want to suggest to make it an own Application for Open Office Suite, a 7. 
> application next to word, calc...

Well, the components of the OOo suite have one thing in common: they all
support the infrastructure and API and file format of the suite. I don't
see where CSpace would fit into that. Bundling it with some CD is
a different thing.

Don't get me wrong. I like the idea of decentralized not client-server
based messaging, but to have it _integrated_ with OOo a lot more is
needed than just a stand-alone application. You could see whether
creating an OOo extension from CSpace would give some benefit though,
see http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Extensions

Maybe you also should have pointed out more explicitly that CSpace is
not an Instant Messenger but a P2P connection platform instead, with IM
just being one application built on it.

Btw, what protocol(s) does CSpace use? I didn't find any reference to
RFCs or the like. Just that it uses Kademlia and DHT for
decentralization and TLS for the secure channel.

  Eike

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Re: [dev] interested to contribute in openoffice.org

2006-07-31 Thread Malte Timmermann
Cool :)

What's your main interest - core, components, helping on bug fixes?

If your answer is "writing a helpful component for OOo from scratch", I
would suggest writing the "Creative Commons" component.

http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=dev&msgNo=17284

I think there is a lot of interest in such a component, but nobody
volunteered to write that (right now).

Interested?
Malte.

mukhilarasu arasuanbu wrote, On 07/31/06 12:39:
> Hi,
>
>   I am a developer having 3+ years of experience in various development 
> projects and having development experience  in OOAD, C++,Java2 and J2EE 
> technologies.
>
>   I am very much interested to participate in openoffice.org project
>
>   guide me to start...
>
>   Thanks
>   Anbu
>
> 
>   
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Re: [dev] Minimal Works .wps import filter?

2006-07-31 Thread Caolan McNamara
On Sat, 2006-07-29 at 22:28 -0600, Andrew Ziem wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> What would be the minimal acceptable function and code quality that 
> OpenOffice.org would accept for a Microsoft Works import filter? 
> 
> Right now I have about 500 lines of spaghetti C++ that dumps the plain 
> text to stdout for Works 4 (old, but seems to be the most popular on the 
> Internet) and Works version 8 (aka 2005).  Version 7 should probably 
> work as is.  However, Works 2000 (aka 5) looks somewhat different.  I 
> realize this code is not yet helpful, but I'm looking ahead.
> 
> For the future, I'm considering creating a library with an API similar 
> to libwpd, so the Works-OpenOffice.org integration should be easy (I 
> hope).  Eventually, the filter should process text styles, alignment, 
> page size, etc., but at what point would the import filter be acceptable?
> 

If it was me, I'd say all main body text, and basic formatting, i.e. get
inline formatted italic, bold, underline, fontname and fontsize working.
Getting styles imported and supporting the above in those styles would
be good too if possible initially, but afterwards if necessary.

If that functions, then it would seem suitable quality to me for
inclusion. And extend it feature by feature block afterwards.

Do you know if the works file format documented anywhere ? Is it it's
own file format, or is it some cut-down version of some other file
format ?

C.

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[dev] interested to contribute in openoffice.org

2006-07-31 Thread mukhilarasu arasuanbu
Hi,
   
  I am a developer having 3+ years of experience in various development 
projects and having development experience  in OOAD, C++,Java2 and J2EE 
technologies.
   
  I am very much interested to participate in openoffice.org project
   
  guide me to start...
   
  Thanks
  Anbu
   


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[dev] Minimal Works .wps import filter?

2006-07-31 Thread Andrew Ziem


Hi,

What would be the minimal acceptable function and code quality that 
OpenOffice.org would accept for a Microsoft Works import filter? 

Right now I have about 500 lines of spaghetti C++ that dumps the plain 
text to stdout for Works 4 (old, but seems to be the most popular on the 
Internet) and Works version 8 (aka 2005).  Version 7 should probably 
work as is.  However, Works 2000 (aka 5) looks somewhat different.  I 
realize this code is not yet helpful, but I'm looking ahead.


For the future, I'm considering creating a library with an API similar 
to libwpd, so the Works-OpenOffice.org integration should be easy (I 
hope).  Eventually, the filter should process text styles, alignment, 
page size, etc., but at what point would the import filter be acceptable?



Andrew

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Re: [dev] CSpace Oh Oh Seven as an Open Office Component

2006-07-31 Thread Sophie Gautier

Hi,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi

the idea was, to make CSpace a component of the Open Office Suite.

Openoffice.org has 6 components like Word Excel Powerpoint etc.


humm, and what is the like for Draw ?


Open Office is short "OO".


Wrong, the name of our product is OpenOffice.org so the short name is
OOo, and we really mean this third "o".



A 7th one could be a Messenger: CSpace. We could call it "CSapce Oh
Oh Seven" - So spoken "Cyberspace OO7". As it would be the 7th
component of the suite.


All component in OOo are named OpenOffice.org  in 
your case this might be OpenOffice.org CSpace Oh Oh Seven (quite long 
for a GUI entry). By the way, what does "Oh Oh" mean ?


I asked in the developer forum.

There are different ways to integrate it: Integrated to the core or
as an ad-on or just bundled into the installer.


The first requirement would be that it is required for OOo by the 
community. So read the process defined on the site and our guidelines 
for participating in order to achieve your goal.


Kind regards
Sophie

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Re: [dev] Adding a buddylist / Instant Mesenger to openoffice

2006-07-31 Thread KAMI

Hi!

Interesting talk
Éric Bischoff írta:

Le Vendredi 28 Juillet 2006 19:43, Thomas Müller a écrit :
  

But we have all to agree on that, that we want to have this component.



Personally I _do not_ agree to have an instant messenger integrated with OOo's 
core. And especially a perfect unknown software. And even more if written in 
Python.
  
I think - the original idea - integrating IM like facility into OOo is 
good. Why? Because the created documents have to send to others. That is 
why documents created. There are several way to send it. You can put on 
fileservers. I thing this is the hard side from view of file managament 
(locking, management, etc.). Also you can send it via e-mail. Email is a 
important communication form. OOo supports this via file-send menu. This 
is good. It uses external program to do it. Using IM can substitue 
emailing and I think it is faster. We can provide send action for it 
(via add-on). Another level is adding it to the suite. I might enable 
higher level of interaction between OOo and IM application. Send or 
receive from ooo - on taskpad/bar like panel. And chat in ooo. Send the 
current modification instantly to other side. Diff files at two (or 
more?) IM users... We might have many idea to how and how much integrate 
im to ooo. I am stand for the integration (from just an external linkage 
to integral part of ooo)... We have to dicuss it well... But not sure if 
the cspace is the best... If you see one of the Another Office Company 
you might hear about Groove... So integration istant messanging (and 
more) functions is might not a close.
Another theme is integrated e-mailing (i saw it time by time on 
maillists). I know we haven't enough resource but an integrated mail 
client with planning, resource, contact, time management is might make 
ooo more popular. I see the advantages of it. Of course it might need 
lot of resource to create something useful. Outlook is the fourth most 
requested app from OOo (after W, C, I)... So it might be in our long 
term todo list. Integrating or creating IM client may be nearly same 
useful - but it requires lot less resources...
As a UNIX guy, I like applications to concentrate on what they do best. Then 
you assemble applications, like a building game. Otherwise you bloat 
applications. OOo is a desktop suite, it should not do email, IM, or video 
editing.
  
I agree in video editing. But a well designed program not bloated (in 
term of speed and usability) integrating more functionality. Of course 
we have to ask our users what they are really need. And because of our 
limited resources we need to order well our tasks.

There's a video game in Excel. Does that make sense ? Obviously not.

There are however a few acceptable solutions :

1) If the IM guys want to write it as an add-on to OOo, why not. Their 
problem ;-).
  

Yes :o)
2) Also, distributions are free to bundle OOo with whatever software they 
like, provided they think about license issues
  

Yes :o)
3) If someone can prove there are some parts in writer, calc or impress that 
can benefit of the _integration_ of an IM, then we should be able to call any 
external IM program (the choice of which can be done by the user, with a 
default to the system one). But I would like to see a use case _before_.
  
Paritally yes. We may need at least IM where the communication and 
coworking is stronger. An office application might need special services 
(see above)... Of course the spec must be open so no one retained to 
implement it in another im to maintain the higher level cooperation with 
ooo suite.


Also, I have to say that writing answers and not getting reactions to them is 
particularly unpleasant and gives the impression to speak to deaf people. 
Hence the harsh tone.
  

Thomas,
Integrating something to OOo is never start to change end user pages on 
OOo site. You might create project you have to make you Im comaptible 
with OOo, integrate it, integrate into build system, localization then 
we need builds and careful testing. It takes time. It is not one hour 
work... So we need more work than you expected... I am sure... OOo is 
move slover than you think. There are several patch that makes smaller 
modifications than you want, but they ares still on hold...


Have a nice day,

Best regards,
KAMI