Re: [dev] REMINDER: use specification templates for specifications

2007-11-08 Thread Cor Nouws

Kohei Yoshida wrote (8-11-2007 17:06)

On Thu, 2007-11-08 at 16:47 +0100, Bernd Eilers wrote:

Anyhow you certainly don´t want to break that semi-automatic process to 
generate Release Notes and volunteer to offer to parse a few hundred 
specifications in a few hundred different plain text based formats 


So, is that true that we have a few hundred new features going in to
each release?  If that's true, I'd agree for the need of automation but
I have my doubt that that is really the case.  Correct me if I'm wrong.


Count for 2.3.0 is only (...) about 70.
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/New_Features_2.3#Full_list

Though some structured data/lists were available, it took more that a 
day to only discover all features. Some simply had to be dug out 
Issuetracker.

And one feature was discovered a month after the release of 2.3.0 :-)

I cannot judge about a specific issue leading to this thread, but the 
more automated (= regular info) the better, IMO ;-)


Regards,
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Re: [dev] Copy of formatted text from Header/Footer to Frame

2007-11-08 Thread Sandeep Raghuvanshi
I am sorry for the misunderstanding, actually we have to copy the formatted
text from Frame to Frame and not from header/footer to frame.
any idea?

regards,
Sandeep


On 11/7/07, Oliver Specht - Sun Germany - ham02 - Hamburg <
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> Sandeep Raghuvanshi wrote:
> > Hi All,
> > we have some formatted text available in the header/footer of the page
> which
> > needs to be copied into frames available in the document(we are creating
> > these frames to mimic the Header/Footer on landscape pages).
> > we can copy this text without any formatting using String method but we
> have
> > to have the text in the original format and hence we have tried out the
> copy
> > and paste option using dispatcher but as we can not move the viewcursor
> in
> > the header/footer, we are not able to achieve this.
> >
> > Any idea/suggestion how to go for this?
> >
> >
> >
> Hi,
> why can't you set the ViewCursor into the Header/Footer? If they are
> visible you can put the ViewCursor into the header/footer via the
> XSelectionSupplier::select() method.
> Just pass the result of getStart() from the
> HeaderText(Left)/FooterText(Left) property ( contains an XText interface
> ) of the related page style.
>
> Regards,
> Oliver
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[dev] CLI, TextTable and Cells - why can I not set property values ?

2007-11-08 Thread Marten Feldtmann

This is an extract of my code - I do not know, why the last code line
always fails  any ideas ?


unoidl.com.sun.star.beans.XPropertySet propSet = null;

// We get a single cell  which works without problems ...
unoidl.com.sun.star.table.XCell cell = 
((unoidl.com.sun.star.table.XCellRange)aXTextTable).getCellByPosition(1,1);


// THis property value setting (based on tables) works also  


((unoidl.com.sun.star.beans.XPropertySet)aXTextTable).setPropertyValue(
"BackColor",
new uno.Any(0xAA));

// Now we try to work based on cells ...
propSet = (unoidl.com.sun.star.beans.XPropertySet) cell;

// This always breaks and raises UnknownPropertyException
// ... but single cells should have this property ...
propSet.setPropertyValue(
   "HoriJustify",
   new uno.Any((ushort)unoidl.com.sun.star.table.CellHoriJustify.LEFT));

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Re: [dev] REMINDER: use specification templates for specifications

2007-11-08 Thread Kohei Yoshida

On Thu, 2007-11-08 at 16:47 +0100, Bernd Eilers wrote:

> Anyhow you certainly don´t want to break that semi-automatic process to 
> generate Release Notes and volunteer to offer to parse a few hundred 
> specifications in a few hundred different plain text based formats 

So, is that true that we have a few hundred new features going in to
each release?  If that's true, I'd agree for the need of automation but
I have my doubt that that is really the case.  Correct me if I'm wrong.

Kohei

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Re: [dev] REMINDER: use specification templates for specifications

2007-11-08 Thread Kohei Yoshida

On Thu, 2007-11-08 at 16:47 +0100, Bernd Eilers wrote:
> Openoffice Development wrote:
> > 
> >> A defined process !?  By who?  I thought we (Sun and non-Sun) agreed
> >> when we had that big spec process discussion back in 2006[1] that the
> >> format of the specification no longer matters, but the content does.
> >> Someone even suggested that we write in plain text or just in the issue
> >> page.  Did I miss any other "important" discussion that took place since
> >> then?
> >>
> 
> I remember it otherwise and that was that the agreement was to use that 
> suggested template for Wiki Specifications, but I may be wrong.
> 
> Anyhow you certainly don´t want to break that semi-automatic process to 
> generate Release Notes and volunteer to offer to parse a few hundred 
> specifications in a few hundred different plain text based formats by 
> sighting them manually for each new official user Release and each new 
> Developer Milestone instead. Or do you want to offer to do this kind of 
> work for OpenOffice.org? Or do you think we should just drop the most 
> important part of the Relases Motes at all which is to tell people which 
> new things they can expect from a Release and which main bugs have been 
> fixed, I certainly think you don't!

By the way, that feature is not yet ready, neither is its spec.  It was
going into 2.4 because you guys needed it (so Niklas put it in
partically).  So, I don't think I'm obligated to finish the spec when I
don't even think it's ready.

So, what do you suggest we do then?

Kohei

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Re: [dev] REMINDER: use specification templates for specifications

2007-11-08 Thread Bernd Eilers

Openoffice Development wrote:



A defined process !?  By who?  I thought we (Sun and non-Sun) agreed
when we had that big spec process discussion back in 2006[1] that the
format of the specification no longer matters, but the content does.
Someone even suggested that we write in plain text or just in the issue
page.  Did I miss any other "important" discussion that took place since
then?



I remember it otherwise and that was that the agreement was to use that 
suggested template for Wiki Specifications, but I may be wrong.


Anyhow you certainly don´t want to break that semi-automatic process to 
generate Release Notes and volunteer to offer to parse a few hundred 
specifications in a few hundred different plain text based formats by 
sighting them manually for each new official user Release and each new 
Developer Milestone instead. Or do you want to offer to do this kind of 
work for OpenOffice.org? Or do you think we should just drop the most 
important part of the Relases Motes at all which is to tell people which 
new things they can expect from a Release and which main bugs have been 
fixed, I certainly think you don't!


 

You can use:

http://so-web.germany.sun.com/EIS2/servlet/guide.CheckSpecification



Sorry, "server not found" error here. :-(
  

Also. if you give an address please make sure it works...


Sorry, my mistake, I accidently posted an Sun internal URL to the 
internal incarnation of EIS instead of the right one to the 
OpenOffice.org incarnation of EIS, the correct URL is:


http://eis.services.openoffice.org/EIS2/servlet/guide.CheckSpecification

If you are already logged into EIS you can use the Menü-Entry
"Misc/Check Specification" there, the URL above is just a shortcut to 
the feature.





Yours,
Timo




Yours,
Bernd Eilers


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Re: [dev] REMINDER: use specification templates for specifications

2007-11-08 Thread Openoffice Development



A defined process !?  By who?  I thought we (Sun and non-Sun) agreed
when we had that big spec process discussion back in 2006[1] that the
format of the specification no longer matters, but the content does.
Someone even suggested that we write in plain text or just in the issue
page.  Did I miss any other "important" discussion that took place since
then?

  

You can use:

http://so-web.germany.sun.com/EIS2/servlet/guide.CheckSpecification



Sorry, "server not found" error here. :-(
  

Also. if you give an address please make sure it works...

Yours,
Timo




[dev] Seeking volunteer with an open CWS for UI freeze OOo2.4

2007-11-08 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi,

Does someone have an open CWS that is UI relevant for OOo2.4, and is
willing to take care of
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=82927#desc7

That would add several language list box entries for Sami to
svx/source/dialogs/langtab.src

Thanks
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Re: [dev] REMINDER: use specification templates for specifications

2007-11-08 Thread Kohei Yoshida

On Thu, 2007-11-08 at 12:14 +0100, Bernd Eilers wrote:

> This process will break if developers do not use the correct templates 
> which is a defined process for creating new specifications.

A defined process !?  By who?  I thought we (Sun and non-Sun) agreed
when we had that big spec process discussion back in 2006[1] that the
format of the specification no longer matters, but the content does.
Someone even suggested that we write in plain text or just in the issue
page.  Did I miss any other "important" discussion that took place since
then?

> You can use:
> 
> http://so-web.germany.sun.com/EIS2/servlet/guide.CheckSpecification

Sorry, "server not found" error here. :-(

Kohei

[1] http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=dev&msgNo=18118

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Re: [dev] windows buildbot error message, bit of help ?

2007-11-08 Thread Caolan McNamara

On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 17:14 +, Caolan McNamara wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 17:32 +0100, Hans-Joachim Lankenau wrote:
> > hi!
> > 
> > looks like version changes in assemblies happen outside of the source
> > code (no further comment...). so ccache takes the cached object as the
> > code didn't change...
> > 
> > should be fixed now (disabled ccache in these places).
> 
> That's most excellent, if we're back on track that's awesome work :-)

Neat, *that* works, now just
http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=81911 fails at install
set creation time. This business of creating multi-platform install sets
for qa purposes without local access to a windows machine and compiler
is still a formidable multi-week barrier that the misery of which cannot
even be begun to be understood by someone inside the SO organization
(except for poor ause who gets to try and stitch it together for us)

C.

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[dev] REMINDER: use specification templates for specifications

2007-11-08 Thread Bernd Eilers


Hi there!

I just stumbled over this Page ( 
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Calc/Features/DataPilot_drill-down_on_data_field 
) in the OO Wiki which someone seemed to be trying to use as a 
specification URL in EIS.


We have an semi-automated processes around specifications and EIS 
Database Entries for OpenOffice.org ChildWorkspaces for creating Release 
Notes for new OpenOffice.org user releases and developer Milestones.


This process will break if developers do not use the correct templates 
which is a defined process for creating new specifications.


You can use:

http://so-web.germany.sun.com/EIS2/servlet/guide.CheckSpecification

to check if your specification document can be used for these processes.

As templates either OpenDocument format file is available on 
http://specs.openoffice.org/collaterals/template/2.0/OpenOffice-org-Specification-Template.ott 



which is described on http://specs.openoffice.org/

or a wiki template is availabe at

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Specification_Template

Documentation about Specifications can be found here:

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:Specification

and on http://specs.openoffice.org

The Wiki template seems to be not mentioned well on

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:Specification

except from a link in the Articles in category "Specification" section 
maybe someone can add something about it in the text above.


Kind regards,
Bernd Eilers

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