Re: [dev] [dwm] sloppy focus
hi, On Mon, Jul 04, 2011 at 11:28:54AM +0300, Ruben Mikkonen wrote: I don't know about all you, but I find dwm's sloppy focus can be really annoying at times -- focusing a window when I accidentally nudge my atrophying pointer -- and would rather click-to-focus. The great thing about dropping dwm's sloppy focus is it saves 20 lines of code! So how about we make dwm less mousy and a bit simpler, too? this is an idea so bad it's impressive cool! regards, Mate ps. btw there are lot of other wms and Desktop Environments *sparkle* for lunix that provide click to focus, maybe you should check them out
Re: [dev] Experimental editor
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 10:49:12AM -0400, Kurt H Maier wrote: On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Nick suckless-...@njw.me.uk wrote: I haven't used it, so don't know it's level of suckiness, but might cairo work? No. maybe check out animator: http://repo.hu/projects/animator/ disclaimers: - i'm the author - i advertised it in this ml before - it's not suckless, that wasn't even the intention - but maybe the approach can be interesting... (also we used it for many things and it seems to be great for hacking together UIs and visualizations) regards, Mate
Re: [dev] Microsoft considers harmful...
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 01:55:37PM -0400, Bryan Bennett wrote: Let's face it - the web is no longer focused on Gopher-like information presentation and gathering any longer. Live with it. The Chrome browser source code is 155MB without libraries. Its you and similar people who made the web to be like this. And you seem to like it. With no irony. Incidentally, the last version of the Web that was any good, and the purpose and function of web pages that are still usable to some degree in this day and age, is still the same - Gopher-like information presentation and gathering. The bastardization that began with HTTP 1.1, HTML 4.0 and CSS ruined the web, and the resulting mess will be unfixable until our civilization is wiped from the face of the earth. The only hope for a bright future in IT is swift death. In short, GTFO. With friendship, Mate PS. gopher owns
Re: [dev] Experimental editor
hi, Whether or not your keyboard has a page up/down key is a bit moot; the point is that an editor should have under 10 keybindings: up, down, left, right (C-hjkl), page up and down (C-uv), save and quite (and search and search-and-replace (if you are feeling luxurious)). you are wrong and/or never learnt to properly use an editor in your life. with friendship, Mate
Re: [dev] ideas on suckless file manager
I like to change my background to a random color every 2-10ms; it's http://dagobah.net/flash/epilepsy-with-nice-music.swf
Re: [dev] ideas on suckless file manager
Hi, On Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 08:40:48PM +0200, ilf wrote: On 06-08 12:13, Bert Münnich wrote: i dont think this is a task for an image viewer. we should probably write an ssetroot or so linking against imlib2 and allowing opaque colors like xsetroot does.. I think developing another X background setter would make sense in only one scenario: if it finally had decent support for xinerama. Because currently there is _no_ _such_ _thing_. regards, Mate
Re: [dev] sbase
Hi, On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 03:15:43AM +0100, Connor Lane Smith wrote: I think it's about time we started a minimalist, statically linked set of core utilities. The BSD family are bloated, and the GNU monstrous. Some of us seem to be resorting to using those from Plan 9, which were designed for another operating system and exist on Unix through a compatibility shim. please, please don't take this as a troll - it's just a personal feeling... but I do feel that the suckless project is at its best when it produces fantastically useful minimalistic software like dwm. These days it seems a moronic, unproductive crusade on features and rewriting completely serviceable utilities to be much worse is more popular. Best regards, Mate
Re: [dev] Suckless UML
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 04:50:01PM +0200, timow+...@diningphilosopher.de wrote: On 2011-05-10, CHABOT Simon wrote: Could you give me some suckless softwares name to work with UML ? honestly i'm surprised by this lack of reaction to UML + suckless in the same sentence. Usually this mailing list is swimming in bile regarding much more innocuous topics to the point of unreadability; so why not now? although I haven't seen Uriel reply to this yet. regards, Mate
[dev] channel construct for inter-thread communication in C programs
Hello all, I guess I can't get enough of the punishment I always get in these threads. Announcing project: http://repo.hu/projects/cchan/ 'This is a small library that implements a channel construct for inter-thread communication in C programs. ' This is a very small and simple lib that does one thing only. It uses mutexes and conds for synchronization; it is interfaced to the thread API using a very thin .h file with macros. It would be probably quite easy to port it to use other thread APIs. Currently it supports pthreads and SDL threads. Doesn't use C99 or gcc-specific features, hopefully. Future development: would be nice to implement a select() operation for listening on multiple channels at once; would probably also be very complicated. Regards, Mate PS. I'm fully aware that Plan 9 has this functionality built in. Not interested in you should use plan9 and/or plan9 portability libs mails thanx
Re: [dev] channel construct for inter-thread communication in C programs
On Thu, Sep 09, 2010 at 08:42:43AM -0400, Corey Thomasson wrote: I was only referring to the channels, not the entire library. I pointed it out more as a potential jumpstart for implementing a select(), etc. I wasn't trying to say cchan was redundant. libtask is a good pointer and looks nice (i remember it being mentioned in this ML before). unfortunately, I believe the major difficulties with implementing select() come from the preemptively multi-threaded nature of the environment... regards, Mate
Re: [dev] Suckless design in Games
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 12:39:24PM -0700, Robert Ransom wrote: This list is a subculture itself (as is the 9fans list). wait what? i thought this list *was* the 9fetish^wfans list M.
Re: [dev] plumb 1.0
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 05:40:43PM -0400, David J Patrick wrote: how about piper ? why not piper maru at that srsly, nice names so far, how about comments on the ware :D Mate
Re: [dev] plumb 1.0
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 11:10:36AM +0200, Christoph Lohmann wrote: Hi, your »plumb« looks like the Plan 9 plumber[0] done wrong, whereas your »plumbnet« is a wrong done socat[1] or ncat[2]. Those tools do network right and allow further configuration, like encryption, wrappers, filters, etc., which your application will only find out on purpose, if anyone needs it. apparently you haven't read any of my mails or the man pages, because what plumb does has little relation to the plan9 plumber - and it does it on linux where these facilities are unavailable anyway. furthermore, plumbnet's functionality is not easily reproducible with either socat or similar tools (this is why i wrote it in the first place). Best regards, Mate
Re: [dev] plumb 1.0
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 07:25:56PM +0200, Uriel wrote: http://doc.cat-v.org/plan_9/4th_edition/papers/plumb well darn, should've expected it from plan9 :) yeah, i'll consider the name change, it's no problem at this point - any suggestions for names? :) Mate
Re: [dev] Interesting post about X11
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 12:46:09AM +0100, Aled Gest wrote: I've yet to see evidence of that in Scheme's case. If you can provide links to practical examples, of tools that are cleanly and efficiently written in Scheme, that aren't purely academic in purpose, and don't come with 30 pages of waffle about how great Scheme is, I'd be happy to take a look. sorry, but I'm not sure that the burden of proof is on him. Furthermore, I don't think the whole I hate everything you said and I don't care a bit, but mayyybe if you're real nice you can try to convince me shtick takes us in a productive direction. And as a last (and unrelated) point, I would say that embracing Lispy things, reading SICP, (writing your own eval :), et cetera makes you write better C programs even if you never touch Lisp again. Ignorance is never an advantage, whatever you're ignorant of. Being proud of it is just horrible. Best regards, Mate
Re: [dev] Interesting post about X11
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 03:10:27AM -0700, Robert Ransom wrote: Scheme *should* be used for everything because at least one good macro system has been designed for it. Lisp macros can do arbitrary computation at compile-time, and the Scheme macro system required by R6RS provides all the power of Lisp macros *and* supports a pattern-matching macro specification syntax for simple syntactic sugar. this is exactly the reason scheme macros are horrible and Lisp macros are better for your mind and health. This is one of the humongous, indefensible warts on the scheme language (the other being #f) hth :) Best regards, Mate
Re: [dev] Interesting post about X11
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 12:22:52PM +0200, Mate Nagy wrote: On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 03:10:27AM -0700, Robert Ransom wrote: Scheme *should* be used for everything because at least one good macro system has been designed for it. Lisp macros can do arbitrary computation at compile-time, and the Scheme macro system required by R6RS provides all the power of Lisp macros *and* supports a pattern-matching macro specification syntax for simple syntactic sugar. this is exactly the reason scheme macros are horrible and Lisp macros are better for your mind and health. This is one of the humongous, indefensible warts on the scheme language (the other being #f) whoops... i misunderstood your post as a flame for hygienic macros against generic lisp macros. maybe i've been reading too many uriel posts sorry for the noise, carry on Mate
Re: [dev] Interesting post about X11
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 03:46:16AM -0700, Robert Ransom wrote: It was (at least in that paragraph). See my reply to your other message for three examples of useful SYNTAX-RULES macros; SYNTAX-RULES cannot be implemented properly without a hygienic macro system. I don't think you would actually object to having a hygienic macro system and SYNTAX-RULES *along with* the full compilation-at-compile-time functionality of Common Lisp macros. that sounds fine, of course - but can't you implement hygienic macros on top of the usual gensym (provided, as it is, that it won't be eq to any other symbol)? Regards, Mate
Re: [dev] Convert Suckless Projects Documentation to a More Simple Language
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 11:29:36AM +0200, ⚖ Alexander Surma Surma wrote: English really isn't much more than bastardized Germanic [...]. A bit like C++ to C, really. You made my day. then i suggest reading this article: http://www.crossmyt.com/hc/linghebr/awfgrmlg.html Mate
Re: [dev] Convert Suckless Projects Documentation to a More Simple Language
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 11:59:25AM +0200, pancake wrote: http://en.tokipona.org/ well this looks really interesting, no joke thanks for the link Mate
Re: [dev] Interesting post about X11
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 01:28:28PM +0100, Connor Lane Smith wrote: Vi is a modal clusterfuck. I mean, the crazy shit that thing does? It's different on every machine. Even Bill Joy doesn't use vi anymore. insert ad hominem vi[m] is awesome (also most popular programmer's editor) if you dismiss vi (and especially modeful interfaces) it's you who is wrong, not anyone else anywhere please get off your UX high horse and get back to using osx insert more ad hominems sincerely, Mate
Re: [dev] Suckless operating system
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 07:12:54PM +0400, anonymous wrote: Lynx and Mozilla Firefox support Gopher. firefox's gopher support has some catches (e.g. only port 70 is supported, given port after : is ignored). There is an extension for firefox called overbite: http://gopher.floodgap.com/overbite/ this adds decent gopher support. lynx used to be a terribly buggy gopher client, but in recent versions the major problems seem to be fixed. I remember it had an issue with a bit overzealous caching, so watch out. There's also the gopher package in Debian, which is supposedly a text-based (ncurses) client from the University of Minnesota. This is an abomination that tries to connect with (the nonstandard) gopher+ by default and if the gopher server doesn't handle this, fails utterly. Gopher servers must contain gopher+ trampolines to work around this problem. It has problems handling menus with more consecutive info lines than the screen height (this is a bit unusual but not unknown situation). My vote: if you're firefox running anyway, use overbite; otherwise try lynx. Mate
Re: [dev] stderr: unnecessary?
On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 03:03:27AM +0100, Connor Lane Smith wrote: My point was that that is false. not only is it false, but a few months ago we were running an application (with nsz) where on one computer about 10 processes mmapped a 3.5GB file all at once, perfectly happily. (They were 64 bit computers of course.) the same thing also worked with just 2GB of physical ram (although it was a bit of a strain, in production systems we used 8GB). Mate
Re: [dev] [dvtm] Fibonacci layout patch
On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 01:27:07PM +0200, Mate Nagy wrote: Using the vim splits may be cheating, but it sure is convenient. sorry for self-reply: I thought that maybe for maximum punishment, the fibonacci layout could support nmaster. (Also note that this is a 2560x1600 setup, that's why so much division (and nmaster) makes sense.) Mate
Re: [dev] dmenu_path rewrite in C
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:09:33PM +0200, Premysl Hruby wrote: Conclusion: 0.7 seconds is somewhat noticeable lag. It's another question whether it's worth the effort to write the C program, but hey, it's been done already. Well, I (and others possibly) have no concern about cache miss, my files in $PATH doesn't changes every five minutes :-) I have cache misses rather often, and the delay *is* annoying. I'd be a happy user of the C rewrite. Regards, Mate
Re: [dev] dmenu_path rewrite in C
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 01:43:06PM +0300, Elmo Todurov wrote: On 05/19/2010 01:32 PM, pancake wrote: i would probably even improve the heap usage of this .c, but it's better solution than the shellscript one IMHO. How? I believe usability is a factor as important as general sucklessness. If the shell script version is annoyingly slow, and there is a comparatively simple .c version that's much faster, I'd go for the .c version... regardless of religious issues (although if the faster version was 5000 lines of c++, I'd think twice about it) Regards, Mate
Re: [dev] SDL fullscreen problems in dwm
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 04:40:59PM -, hessi...@hessiess.com wrote: Literally non resizeable, the window cannot be resized. hm, I can open SDL windows that are resizable easily enough, with... SDL_RESIZABLE Mate
Re: [dev] SWK: The simple widget kit
On Sun, May 09, 2010 at 08:42:48PM -0700, Robert Ransom wrote: You need a definition of 'suckless user interface' before you start specifying guidelines for how to produce one. Here's a draft: A suckless user interface is: * useful, * usable, * transparent, * either discoverable or well-documented, * reliable, * as simple as possible, and no simpler, and * customizable. you forget the most important point: you don't design suckless software for the user. You educate the user first, then design software for the new, enlightened man. furthermore, as simple as possible, and no simpler and customizable are very very arguable (in b4 shitstorm) Mate
Re: [dev] SWK: The simple widget kit
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:31:29AM +0200, Gregor Best wrote: There are languages (such as arabic) that are not written in the latin left-to-right fashion but exactly the other way round (i.e. you have to start reading at the right end of a line and end at the left). indeed! let's depend on pango so we can support these issues elegantly, out of the box! whee Mate
Re: [dev] [sw] Suckless web-framework
Why do I get mail on the *suckless* mailing list that *literally* contains 10 pages of css? (suckless web framework right) Is this some kind of weird parallel universe or something, because please teleport me back M.
Re: [dev] Care to share Xinerama Xorg.conf?
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 11:35:31AM -0700, Amit Uttamchandani wrote: Hey everyone, 1. Debian Squeeze (Linux 2.6.32) 2. Radeon HD 3600 card 3. xserver-xorg 7.5 4. xserver-xorg-core 1.7.6 If you have a similar set up I'd like to try out your xorg.conf. incidentally, when i last saw something like this work, there was nothing in xorg.conf; you had to set it up with xrandr during runtime (nothing in xorg.conf worked) Mate
Re: [dev] Care to share Xinerama Xorg.conf?
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 11:35:31AM -0700, Amit Uttamchandani wrote: Finally got a second monitor but can't get Xinerama to function for the life of me. .. 2. Radeon HD 3600 card hahahahah sorry you're screwed Mate PS. for all seriousness it's gonna be pretty difficult, i always had a ton of trouble with xinerama radeon under linux... linux ati drivers are an abomination
Re: [dev] [sw] Suckless web-framework
On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 05:52:14PM +, Connor Lane Smith wrote: On 5 April 2010 17:34, Charlie Kester corky1...@comcast.net wrote: As for paragraphs, separating them with blank lines always made more sense to me than p tags, and here again, no closing tag is required. no closing tags are required for p either. HTML is not XML. don't confuse them. Mate
Re: [dev] GSoC 2010
On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 01:44:04PM +0100, pancake wrote: why do you need TTF? font rendering is a really complex stuff, in dwk yes we were only planning to support monospaced fonts, calculate sizes yes with changing size of fonts is really complex and cpu-intensive task and yes i dont think it matters to the user. no, sorry In non-uriel style, yes, font rendering is horribly complicated and an entirely fucked up discipline, but I don't think a real widget set can skip out on it. Bitmap fonts are fine for programming (and I even use it for web browsing when it's dark and I switch the theme to white-on-black), but often sub-pixel tuned ttf is just more comfortable to read. Actually I wrote a similar widget set that I use in frtplot (frtplot.port70.net), straight C and everything, and.. it only does bitmap font rendering (no Unicode though). But I wouldn't want to use it for software that isn't exclusively for programmers.. Mate
Re: [dev] GSoC 2010
On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 12:57:31PM +, Anselm R Garbe wrote: Well one design decision for the API I'm in favor with is not to provide any font-related functionality in the first version and leave font rendering up to the implementation. If someone writes an app he shouldn't bother about the fonts/colors etc, he should concentrate on the functionality -- this also enforces a consistent look among all programs that might use dwk. I agree something like this would be fantastic for small suckless GUI projects (if that wasn't an oxymoron... but I'm not certain about this at all, either way) Mate
Re: [dev] [OT]: Lisp
Hello, On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 04:22:48PM +, Aled Gest wrote: Please don't fallaciously assume I don't know anything just because I'm criticizing a Language you're fanatical about. I agree, no language can directly accommodate all needs, but if I find my self wanting to write ugly macros to do something, I find a better way of achieving what I need. C is far from perfect, but I find it nice enough to do the majority of things painlessly. Its primary concept is the transparency of the program's abstract syntax tree (due to the syntax simplicity). Tell me, how is that beneficial? please stop posting thx - Mate
Re: [dev] [OT]: Go programming language
Hello, I'm officially announcing a go excercise project called: godwm (dwm implemented in Go) i'd be interested in helping with this Regards, Mate
Re: [dev] dwm xinerama config.mk settings
Hiho, I'm a little uneasy with that since I'm using Xinerama all the time nowadays. But I wouldn't mind doing that by default. Any complaints? yes plz (although didn't we have this thread a couple of times?) I think Xinerama should be enable by default - most people will have the necessary headers installed anyway. Regards, Mate
Re: [dev] [st] goals / non-goals for st?
sounds fine. Maybe with a keybinding and adding numbers to the link like vimperator does. Lynx-cur has also the numbering link feature as an option and doesn't use javascript for that as vimperator does. the best thing about vimperator though (which makes it usable as opposed to everything else with this approach) that you don't have to type in the number; you can just type a few characters of the link text, and it'll filter the suitable link candidates with each character interactively. It'll also renumber the candidates in each step, so the usual process is to type a few characters of the link then type in a final 1 digit number to choose, or just press enter on the default selection. The point is that typing a few characters of a link is faster than typing a few numbers, because there's one less brain-processing step involved - you don't actually have to read the number. This has a perceptible time overhead. Regards, Mate
Re: [dev] Bottom Stack
On Wed, Oct 07, 2009 at 10:58:39AM -0400, David Neu wrote: bstack.c (dwm 5.6.1) (20090908) bstackhoriz.c (dwm 5.6.1) (20090908) Can anyone advise what, if anything need to make them work with dwm 5.7.2? you can use nmaster+bstack, which is up to date and is included in the patches page (I don't know what bstackhoriz is, though) Regards, Mate
Re: [dev] Suckless word processing solution?
On Sun, Oct 04, 2009 at 08:26:08PM +0200, Antoni Grzymala wrote: Doesn't terrify me. I sleep quite well in fact. I do observe some obsession-terrification-related symptoms on this list. :) in short: everyone who hates vi was molested as a kid. makes sense M.
Re: [dev] [dwm] pertag and struct Monitor issues
Hiho, But the nasty thing is, layout patches like gaplessgrid need to know Monitor when compiled. I thought the same, when writing nmaster+bstack, but then nsz has rewritten it in its current form, and it doesn't need to know Monitor. Look at http://dwm.suckless.org/patches/nmaster-sym.c The trick is to use an external array indexed by monitor. This might or might not do the trick for you. Would it make sense to add a void *aux; to Monitor, that patches don't need to screw around with dwm.c? IMHO this would be really ugly and patches mucking up dwm.c would be preferable to this. Regards, Mate
Re: [dev] dwm nmaster_bstack-5.7
Hiho, On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 01:21:51AM +0200, Julien Steinhauser wrote: nmaster_bstack patch updated for dwm-5.7. the nmaster patch page http://dwm.suckless.org/patches/nmaster actually has this patch already; actually, a stilistically improved version by nsz. (Yeah, I noticed after I updated the patch myself... Now I'm using nsz's version.) Regards, Mate
Re: [dev] [dwm] Fibonacci spiral and Movestack patches for dwm 5.6.1
Hiho, The Fibonacci spiral patch offers a new layout that arranges the clients in a spiral - http://www.aplusbi.com/projects/dwm/dwm-5.6.1-fibonacci.diff neat The movestack patch allows you to swap the selected client with the client before or after it (a clone of the Xmonad mod-shift-j and mod-shift-k functionality) - http://www.aplusbi.com/projects/dwm/dwm-5.6.1-movestack.diff this exists in a few instances already, apparently many people like it :) for instance: http://dwm.suckless.org/patches/push see also: http://dwm.suckless.org/patches/attachabove Regards, Mate
Re: [dev] A lightwieight and working typesetting system.
Hiho, On Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 08:29:39AM -, hessi...@hessiess.com wrote: But these features are non-standard and will not work the same on different viewers, hence the point, HTML NEVER prints the same from two different viewers. Generally the point of systems like TeX is you can garentee that a document will always look the same, regardless of if it was typeset now or 10 years in the future. This is the most serious drawback of TeX. Documents should look like how the user wants them, not how the author wants them. There's also that pagination is annoying and obsolete now, but this is mostly related to the former point. Regards, Mate
Re: [dev] A lightwieight and working typesetting system.
Hiho, On Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 11:59:39AM +0200, Antoni Grzymala wrote: Szabolcs Nagy dixit (2009-09-05, 10:35): also, This is purest craps of crap. A high quality book typeset by a knowledgeable typesetter is *incomparable* to any automatically generated text that you get on screen/PDA or whichever low-resolution display system you choose (one that will also usually lack contrast). Robert Bringhurst makes a parallel that a typesetter with his typesetting skills is interpreting text like a musician interprets music and gives it final shape for a reader to consume (or appreciate). This is somewhat poetic, but definitely strikes a very important point. High quality fonts, ligatures, proper hyphenation and other subtle typographic elements (yes, with lots of added complexity, thank you very much) are a *big* gain and make perfect sense when typeset at 2450 dpi; pretending that text set on a 90 dpi PDA display by some quicky crap pseudo-typesetting engine is equivalent in quality is preposterous. (sorry for bottom posting, but this bears quoting) this is all fine and dandy, now please get out of my computer, documentation and reading material in general. Books on paper are great, although the interface is a bit dated; I'd much rather have the 90dpi PDA screen that remembers my position in multiple books, and sometimes I can even search for stuff. I can imagine a few uses where wasting trees and technology on 2450 dpi technology makes sense (literature), but for the majority of stuff (manuals, documentation, tutorials, journals, mail) this is completely ridiculous. This is the same as why you don't see those beautiful, hand-made ironworks on buildings, bridges, etc. any more. They're all great craftmanship, but completely uneconomical in this age. So sorry it hurts ya. Best regards, Mate Nagy
Re: [dev] mapping keyboard buttons to move the mouse?
Hiho, I was wondering if it was possible to map keyboard buttons to move the mouse cursor/ send mouse button events. For example, I was thinning of having alt gr and the arrow buttons move the mouse cursor, and alt gr + z, x and c send left, middle, right mouse button events. have you tried this one yet: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/movecursor.html altho this doesn't offer random keybindings (i wouldn't be surprised if you can tune it using xmodmap somehow, though) Regards, Mate
Re: [dev] [dwm] New slaves
Hiho, On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 11:06:41AM +, Jacob Todd wrote: Are there any patches for dwm that let you spawn new clients as slaves instead of always making the new client master? - http://dwm.suckless.org/patches/attachabove maybe this Regards, Mate
Re: [dev] [st] goals / non-goals for st?
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 02:17:15AM +0200, Valentin wrote: Isn't that what screen's there for? :P if only screen's interface for scrolling back wasn't ridiculously uncomfortable. IMHO shift+pgup/pgdn, and horribile dictu mousewheel scrolling are essential. On the other hand, regex search forward backward etc would be convenient, also keyboard-based text selection (connected to the X clipboard, which again screen cannot do). Regards, Mate
Re: [dev] dwm background, UXTerm, and config.h
Hiho, How do I define a background-image for each monitor, individually? The following command produces undesirable results: $ feh --bg-scale ~/media/images/wallpaper/dwm-3d-bg02.png - scales across both monitors rather than each one individually well, you need a xinerama-aware wallpaper setter app. I had some limited access with one called 'nitrogen'. I think it's actually much easier to create a single image with both wallpapers in it, and set it using feh. Also, does UXTerm have a transparency feature? The man pages for xterm and UXTerm fail to make any reference. If not, what alternatives if any would you suggest? I recall seeing a (Gentoo, I believe) thread regarding an alternative to UXTerm that was light-weight and offered a few more customization options, but I'm unable to relocate it. i seem to recall that urxvt supports (virtual) transparency Finally, can someone provide or tell me where the documentation is for the new monitor option defined under the rules[] in config.h? Is 0 the left monitor and 1 the right monitor as defined in the xorg.conf? What would -1? be, then? -1 means not to put matching clients on any particular monitor (instead, use the current selected monitor). Numbering probably depends on how xinerama data is provided. Best regards, Mate Nagy
Re: [dev] dwm default bindings
anyway, i could agree with the change if it's just #define MODKEY Mod1Mask|ControlMask imho the best default is Mod1 - it's a lot less annoying than Ctrl+Alt, in apps Esc+key can often be used instead. Ctrl+Alt is not a good default, because it'll induce EMACS-fingers and scare off the userbase. The only reason for Mod4 not being the default is that it might not work out of the box for everyone - although it's still an option for people who don't actually have a Windows key, they can remap Caps-Lock or somesuch to Mod4 using xmodmap. Regards, Mate
Re: [dev] DWM problem
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:38:07PM +, Kupai József wrote: I start dwm with the dwm command after I killed twm. I have no ~/.xsession-errors ...rrighto. Try to launch an xterm, then try launching further xterms from that (from the same terminal command that's specified in your config.h). Try to note the potential error messages there. Regards, Mate
