Re: [VOTE] Release VelocityTools 2.0-alpha1 (Take 2)

2007-06-30 Thread Nathan Bubna

On 6/30/07, Claude Brisson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Le vendredi 29 juin 2007 à 14:25 -0700, Nathan Bubna a écrit :
> On 6/28/07, Will Glass-Husain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > -1.  (sorry!)
> >
> > There are no docs.  All the generated doc files in the binary distro have
> > size of 0KB.  In the source distro, typing "ant docs" also produces bad
> > docs.
>
> Claude, this seems to be some issue with DVSL.  It looks like the 2.x
> branch is still on 0.43 while the trunk is using 1.0-dev.  Which i
> don't appear to have in my filesystem currently, so the 1.x trunk
> isn't building for me either.   What's the status of DVSL right now?
> Any chance you could give me a hand getting docs building again? :)

DVSL 1.0 is ready for an RC, I lacked some time to push it out (yet one
week of hard work and I'm on vacation).

Here's the situation:

For Tools 1.x: The DVSL ant task has changed from
o.a.tools.dvsl.DVSLTask package to o.a.dvsl.DVSLTask package. To make
Gump happy, I made the build.xml in tools 1.x trunk now use the new
package to declare the DVSL ant task, but it wasn't a really good
solution since Gump is the only one happy. So I'm gonna roll this back
and put a deprecated class in the old DVSL package. It's better for BC
and even if the next 1.x tools release is made before DVSL there won't
be any problem.


that sounds like a good plan


But for Tools 2.x, which is still using dvsl-0.43, it's a totally
different problem: it's simply that the published dvsl-0.43 binary (as
long as the 0.44 and 0.45 ones) doesn't work with velocity-1.5 (it just
needed to be recompiled). So to build the docs there is no other real
solution today than building dvsl-1.0-dev manually, copy it to the lib,
and edit build.xml to use o.a.dvsl.DVSLTask.


hmm.  or hack the docs build to use velocity 1.4, right?  probably not
worth it, since 2.0 final probably won't come before DVSL 1.0


It'd be cool to release DVSL 1.0 quite soon, wouldn't it? I'll try to
initiate it and start the vote on sunday evening - I'll be offline
during the w-e.


that would be great.  i see no reason to wait.  once the deprecated
DVSLTask subclass discussed above is added.



  Claude

> > Again, let me know if I'm missing something obvious.
> >
> > On the positive side, "ant test" worked fine under both JDK 1.5 and JDK 1.6
> >
> > I'll note some trivial nits, probably want to fix before final 2.0 release
> > -- notice file has 2006 copyright, not 2007
> > -- ant clean doesn't remove empty target directory
> > -- the VLS_readme file is written in the first person tense, but who is that
> > person?  (no one signed the message)
> > -- the STATUS file appears to be out of date.  (not sure-- worth a check).
> >
> > best,
> > WILL
> >
> > On 6/28/07, Nathan Bubna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Ok, here goes again.  The problem with the source build has been fixed
> > > and my refactorings from this morning are now included.  Sorry that we
> > > have to do this again, but here goes:
> > >
> > > The new test build for this release is once again available at:
> > > http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-alpha1/
> > >
> > > Check out the release artifacts, play with an example, and vote! :)
> > >
> > > [ ] +1 Let's do it
> > > [ ] +0 Have fun; i don't care.
> > > [ ] -0  Not sure about this, but i won't stop you.
> > > [ ] -1 No, because __
> > >
> > > The voting period is typically 72 hours, but i won't wrap it up until
> > > the morning of Monday, July 2 at the earliest.  If there aren't enough +1s
> > > and no -1s, then the vote will stay open until either i'm tired of
> > > waiting or all PMC members have voted. :)
> > >
> > > My vote is +1
> > >
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Re: [VOTE] Release VelocityTools 2.0-alpha1 (Take 2)

2007-06-30 Thread Claude Brisson
Le vendredi 29 juin 2007 à 14:25 -0700, Nathan Bubna a écrit :
> On 6/28/07, Will Glass-Husain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > -1.  (sorry!)
> >
> > There are no docs.  All the generated doc files in the binary distro have
> > size of 0KB.  In the source distro, typing "ant docs" also produces bad
> > docs.
> 
> Claude, this seems to be some issue with DVSL.  It looks like the 2.x
> branch is still on 0.43 while the trunk is using 1.0-dev.  Which i
> don't appear to have in my filesystem currently, so the 1.x trunk
> isn't building for me either.   What's the status of DVSL right now?
> Any chance you could give me a hand getting docs building again? :)

DVSL 1.0 is ready for an RC, I lacked some time to push it out (yet one
week of hard work and I'm on vacation).

Here's the situation: 

For Tools 1.x: The DVSL ant task has changed from
o.a.tools.dvsl.DVSLTask package to o.a.dvsl.DVSLTask package. To make
Gump happy, I made the build.xml in tools 1.x trunk now use the new
package to declare the DVSL ant task, but it wasn't a really good
solution since Gump is the only one happy. So I'm gonna roll this back
and put a deprecated class in the old DVSL package. It's better for BC
and even if the next 1.x tools release is made before DVSL there won't
be any problem.

But for Tools 2.x, which is still using dvsl-0.43, it's a totally
different problem: it's simply that the published dvsl-0.43 binary (as
long as the 0.44 and 0.45 ones) doesn't work with velocity-1.5 (it just
needed to be recompiled). So to build the docs there is no other real
solution today than building dvsl-1.0-dev manually, copy it to the lib,
and edit build.xml to use o.a.dvsl.DVSLTask.

It'd be cool to release DVSL 1.0 quite soon, wouldn't it? I'll try to
initiate it and start the vote on sunday evening - I'll be offline
during the w-e.


  Claude

> > Again, let me know if I'm missing something obvious.
> >
> > On the positive side, "ant test" worked fine under both JDK 1.5 and JDK 1.6
> >
> > I'll note some trivial nits, probably want to fix before final 2.0 release
> > -- notice file has 2006 copyright, not 2007
> > -- ant clean doesn't remove empty target directory
> > -- the VLS_readme file is written in the first person tense, but who is that
> > person?  (no one signed the message)
> > -- the STATUS file appears to be out of date.  (not sure-- worth a check).
> >
> > best,
> > WILL
> >
> > On 6/28/07, Nathan Bubna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Ok, here goes again.  The problem with the source build has been fixed
> > > and my refactorings from this morning are now included.  Sorry that we
> > > have to do this again, but here goes:
> > >
> > > The new test build for this release is once again available at:
> > > http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-alpha1/
> > >
> > > Check out the release artifacts, play with an example, and vote! :)
> > >
> > > [ ] +1 Let's do it
> > > [ ] +0 Have fun; i don't care.
> > > [ ] -0  Not sure about this, but i won't stop you.
> > > [ ] -1 No, because __
> > >
> > > The voting period is typically 72 hours, but i won't wrap it up until
> > > the morning of Monday, July 2 at the earliest.  If there aren't enough +1s
> > > and no -1s, then the vote will stay open until either i'm tired of
> > > waiting or all PMC members have voted. :)
> > >
> > > My vote is +1
> > >
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> >
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Re: [VOTE] Release VelocityTools 2.0-alpha1 (Take 2)

2007-06-29 Thread Nathan Bubna

On 6/28/07, Will Glass-Husain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

-1.  (sorry!)

There are no docs.  All the generated doc files in the binary distro have
size of 0KB.  In the source distro, typing "ant docs" also produces bad
docs.


Claude, this seems to be some issue with DVSL.  It looks like the 2.x
branch is still on 0.43 while the trunk is using 1.0-dev.  Which i
don't appear to have in my filesystem currently, so the 1.x trunk
isn't building for me either.   What's the status of DVSL right now?
Any chance you could give me a hand getting docs building again? :)


Again, let me know if I'm missing something obvious.

On the positive side, "ant test" worked fine under both JDK 1.5 and JDK 1.6

I'll note some trivial nits, probably want to fix before final 2.0 release
-- notice file has 2006 copyright, not 2007
-- ant clean doesn't remove empty target directory
-- the VLS_readme file is written in the first person tense, but who is that
person?  (no one signed the message)
-- the STATUS file appears to be out of date.  (not sure-- worth a check).

best,
WILL

On 6/28/07, Nathan Bubna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Ok, here goes again.  The problem with the source build has been fixed
> and my refactorings from this morning are now included.  Sorry that we
> have to do this again, but here goes:
>
> The new test build for this release is once again available at:
> http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-alpha1/
>
> Check out the release artifacts, play with an example, and vote! :)
>
> [ ] +1 Let's do it
> [ ] +0 Have fun; i don't care.
> [ ] -0  Not sure about this, but i won't stop you.
> [ ] -1 No, because __
>
> The voting period is typically 72 hours, but i won't wrap it up until
> the morning of Monday, July 2 at the earliest.  If there aren't enough +1s
> and no -1s, then the vote will stay open until either i'm tired of
> waiting or all PMC members have voted. :)
>
> My vote is +1
>
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Re: [VOTE] Release VelocityTools 2.0-alpha1 (Take 2)

2007-06-29 Thread Nathan Bubna

On 6/29/07, Claude Brisson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I tested it in a real webapp and it seems ok...
The new api is really much cleaner than the 1.x, that's a pleasure to
use it!


good to hear!


There are some small developments I'd like to commit in but they are not
ready and will wait for the 2.1 release.


we're only in alpha stage right now.  unless they're really drastic, i
think they should go in now.  To me, "alpha" means "the big
refactorings and core infrastructure is done; here's something to
*start* working with.  expect some changes."   I'm likely to make more
than a few small developments too.



so,

+1

One remark: when fully rebuilding I saw that there remains some internal
references to deprecated classes, like to the old ToolInfo class in
o.a.v.tools.view package, that could easily be changed.


it's something we need to consider.  at this point, i've decided to
leave the old core infrastructure in place and deprecated.  i know
there's not likely to be many people who directly interacted with it
(and thus we probably can yank it), but it's not really hurting
anything and might still be useful in some way i haven't foreseen.

also, i have occasionally thought that it might be nice to break the
many deprecated class out into a separate "backwards compatible"
build, but then we're basically talking about doubling the number of
jars we distribute.  since we already put out three, that seemed like
overkill.

anyway, all that is to say, we should have a discussion at some point
about whether and/or how long we want to leave the various deprecated
pieces (support for old toolbox format, support for Tools with init()
methods, and the old tool management infrastructure) in place.




  Claude

Le vendredi 29 juin 2007 à 09:36 -0700, Will Glass-Husain a écrit :
> Ok, I change my vote to a +1.  Don't want to hold up progress here.  After
> all, it's an alpha.   Anyone who uses this and complains about missing docs
> will get support on the list.
>
> > does this really matter for an *alpha*, especially when none of the
> > docs have been updated and so many of them are wrong, and the tools
> > are mostly documented via javascript?
>
> Best, WILL
>
>
> On 6/29/07, Nathan Bubna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > On 6/28/07, Will Glass-Husain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > -1.  (sorry!)
> > >
> > > There are no docs.  All the generated doc files in the binary distro
> > have
> > > size of 0KB.  In the source distro, typing "ant docs" also produces bad
> > > docs.
> >
> > does this really matter for an *alpha*, especially when none of the
> > docs have been updated and so many of them are wrong, and the tools
> > are mostly documented via javascript?
> >
> > > Again, let me know if I'm missing something obvious.
> > >
> > > On the positive side, "ant test" worked fine under both JDK 1.5 and JDK
> > 1.6
> > >
> > > I'll note some trivial nits, probably want to fix before final 2.0release
> > > -- notice file has 2006 copyright, not 2007
> >
> > will fix.
> >
> > > -- ant clean doesn't remove empty target directory
> >
> > that's mvn/ant crossover.  will fix, but doesn't matter.
> >
> > > -- the VLS_readme file is written in the first person tense, but who is
> > that
> > > person?  (no one signed the message)
> >
> > been that way for all final releases.  i wrote it before i was even a
> > committer, i believe.
> >
> > > -- the STATUS file appears to be out of date.  (not sure-- worth a
> > check).
> >
> > it's an alpha.  all the docs are out of date. :)
> >
> > > best,
> > > WILL
> > >
> > > On 6/28/07, Nathan Bubna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ok, here goes again.  The problem with the source build has been fixed
> > > > and my refactorings from this morning are now included.  Sorry that we
> > > > have to do this again, but here goes:
> > > >
> > > > The new test build for this release is once again available at:
> > > > http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-alpha1/
> > > >
> > > > Check out the release artifacts, play with an example, and vote! :)
> > > >
> > > > [ ] +1 Let's do it
> > > > [ ] +0 Have fun; i don't care.
> > > > [ ] -0  Not sure about this, but i won't stop you.
> > > > [ ] -1 No, because __
> > > >
> > > > The voting period is typically 72 hours, but i won't wrap it up until
> > > > the morning of Monday, July 2 at the earliest.  If there aren't enough
> > +1s
> > > > and no -1s, then the vote will stay open until either i'm tired of
> > > > waiting or all PMC members have voted. :)
> > > >
> > > > My vote is +1
> > > >
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Re: [VOTE] Release VelocityTools 2.0-alpha1 (Take 2)

2007-06-29 Thread Claude Brisson
I tested it in a real webapp and it seems ok...
The new api is really much cleaner than the 1.x, that's a pleasure to
use it!

There are some small developments I'd like to commit in but they are not
ready and will wait for the 2.1 release.

so,

+1

One remark: when fully rebuilding I saw that there remains some internal
references to deprecated classes, like to the old ToolInfo class in
o.a.v.tools.view package, that could easily be changed.


  Claude

Le vendredi 29 juin 2007 à 09:36 -0700, Will Glass-Husain a écrit :
> Ok, I change my vote to a +1.  Don't want to hold up progress here.  After
> all, it's an alpha.   Anyone who uses this and complains about missing docs
> will get support on the list.
> 
> > does this really matter for an *alpha*, especially when none of the
> > docs have been updated and so many of them are wrong, and the tools
> > are mostly documented via javascript?
> 
> Best, WILL
> 
> 
> On 6/29/07, Nathan Bubna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > On 6/28/07, Will Glass-Husain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > -1.  (sorry!)
> > >
> > > There are no docs.  All the generated doc files in the binary distro
> > have
> > > size of 0KB.  In the source distro, typing "ant docs" also produces bad
> > > docs.
> >
> > does this really matter for an *alpha*, especially when none of the
> > docs have been updated and so many of them are wrong, and the tools
> > are mostly documented via javascript?
> >
> > > Again, let me know if I'm missing something obvious.
> > >
> > > On the positive side, "ant test" worked fine under both JDK 1.5 and JDK
> > 1.6
> > >
> > > I'll note some trivial nits, probably want to fix before final 2.0release
> > > -- notice file has 2006 copyright, not 2007
> >
> > will fix.
> >
> > > -- ant clean doesn't remove empty target directory
> >
> > that's mvn/ant crossover.  will fix, but doesn't matter.
> >
> > > -- the VLS_readme file is written in the first person tense, but who is
> > that
> > > person?  (no one signed the message)
> >
> > been that way for all final releases.  i wrote it before i was even a
> > committer, i believe.
> >
> > > -- the STATUS file appears to be out of date.  (not sure-- worth a
> > check).
> >
> > it's an alpha.  all the docs are out of date. :)
> >
> > > best,
> > > WILL
> > >
> > > On 6/28/07, Nathan Bubna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ok, here goes again.  The problem with the source build has been fixed
> > > > and my refactorings from this morning are now included.  Sorry that we
> > > > have to do this again, but here goes:
> > > >
> > > > The new test build for this release is once again available at:
> > > > http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-alpha1/
> > > >
> > > > Check out the release artifacts, play with an example, and vote! :)
> > > >
> > > > [ ] +1 Let's do it
> > > > [ ] +0 Have fun; i don't care.
> > > > [ ] -0  Not sure about this, but i won't stop you.
> > > > [ ] -1 No, because __
> > > >
> > > > The voting period is typically 72 hours, but i won't wrap it up until
> > > > the morning of Monday, July 2 at the earliest.  If there aren't enough
> > +1s
> > > > and no -1s, then the vote will stay open until either i'm tired of
> > > > waiting or all PMC members have voted. :)
> > > >
> > > > My vote is +1
> > > >
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Re: [VOTE] Release VelocityTools 2.0-alpha1 (Take 2)

2007-06-29 Thread Will Glass-Husain

Ok, I change my vote to a +1.  Don't want to hold up progress here.  After
all, it's an alpha.   Anyone who uses this and complains about missing docs
will get support on the list.


does this really matter for an *alpha*, especially when none of the
docs have been updated and so many of them are wrong, and the tools
are mostly documented via javascript?


Best, WILL


On 6/29/07, Nathan Bubna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On 6/28/07, Will Glass-Husain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> -1.  (sorry!)
>
> There are no docs.  All the generated doc files in the binary distro
have
> size of 0KB.  In the source distro, typing "ant docs" also produces bad
> docs.

does this really matter for an *alpha*, especially when none of the
docs have been updated and so many of them are wrong, and the tools
are mostly documented via javascript?

> Again, let me know if I'm missing something obvious.
>
> On the positive side, "ant test" worked fine under both JDK 1.5 and JDK
1.6
>
> I'll note some trivial nits, probably want to fix before final 2.0release
> -- notice file has 2006 copyright, not 2007

will fix.

> -- ant clean doesn't remove empty target directory

that's mvn/ant crossover.  will fix, but doesn't matter.

> -- the VLS_readme file is written in the first person tense, but who is
that
> person?  (no one signed the message)

been that way for all final releases.  i wrote it before i was even a
committer, i believe.

> -- the STATUS file appears to be out of date.  (not sure-- worth a
check).

it's an alpha.  all the docs are out of date. :)

> best,
> WILL
>
> On 6/28/07, Nathan Bubna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Ok, here goes again.  The problem with the source build has been fixed
> > and my refactorings from this morning are now included.  Sorry that we
> > have to do this again, but here goes:
> >
> > The new test build for this release is once again available at:
> > http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-alpha1/
> >
> > Check out the release artifacts, play with an example, and vote! :)
> >
> > [ ] +1 Let's do it
> > [ ] +0 Have fun; i don't care.
> > [ ] -0  Not sure about this, but i won't stop you.
> > [ ] -1 No, because __
> >
> > The voting period is typically 72 hours, but i won't wrap it up until
> > the morning of Monday, July 2 at the earliest.  If there aren't enough
+1s
> > and no -1s, then the vote will stay open until either i'm tired of
> > waiting or all PMC members have voted. :)
> >
> > My vote is +1
> >
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Re: [VOTE] Release VelocityTools 2.0-alpha1

2007-06-29 Thread Nathan Bubna

On 6/29/07, Ahmed Mohombe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Nathan Bubna-3 wrote:
>
> VelocityTools 2.0 is, in my estimation, ready for an alpha release.  I
>
Why not user the same version number like Velocity?


never done it before.  all Tools 1.x releases are (i believe
compatible with all 1.3+ Engine releases).


This way it would be much simpler for the users to match versions. E.g.
they would intuitively use Velcity 1.6 with VelocityTools 1.6.


it would be cool if that just happened.  for Tools 1.1, 1.2, & 1.3, we
were relatively lucky to have the Tools version numbers line up to the
Struts 1.x version numbers, but that was 90% coincidence.

i don't, however, think it is worth it to alter development pace
(rushing or holding back on release cycles) just to keep numbers in
sync.  better to just document what version(s) of Velocity are
required for each version of VelocityTools.

Tools 2.0, while it is highly compatible with 1.x versions, is largely
a rewrite of the internal infrastructure and involves a lot of package
shuffling and refactoring.  what compatibility there is comes through
a huge number of deprecated classes and methods put/left in place just
for that purpose.  Those will start disappearing in subsequent version
minor version releases.  Calling this a 1.x release would be quite a
stretch.


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Re: [VOTE] Release VelocityTools 2.0-alpha1

2007-06-29 Thread Ahmed Mohombe


Nathan Bubna-3 wrote:
> 
> VelocityTools 2.0 is, in my estimation, ready for an alpha release.  I
> 
Why not user the same version number like Velocity?

This way it would be much simpler for the users to match versions. E.g.
they would intuitively use Velcity 1.6 with VelocityTools 1.6.

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Re: [VOTE] Release VelocityTools 2.0-alpha1 (Take 2)

2007-06-28 Thread Will Glass-Husain

-1.  (sorry!)

There are no docs.  All the generated doc files in the binary distro have
size of 0KB.  In the source distro, typing "ant docs" also produces bad
docs.

Again, let me know if I'm missing something obvious.

On the positive side, "ant test" worked fine under both JDK 1.5 and JDK 1.6

I'll note some trivial nits, probably want to fix before final 2.0 release
-- notice file has 2006 copyright, not 2007
-- ant clean doesn't remove empty target directory
-- the VLS_readme file is written in the first person tense, but who is that
person?  (no one signed the message)
-- the STATUS file appears to be out of date.  (not sure-- worth a check).

best,
WILL

On 6/28/07, Nathan Bubna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Ok, here goes again.  The problem with the source build has been fixed
and my refactorings from this morning are now included.  Sorry that we
have to do this again, but here goes:

The new test build for this release is once again available at:
http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-alpha1/

Check out the release artifacts, play with an example, and vote! :)

[ ] +1 Let's do it
[ ] +0 Have fun; i don't care.
[ ] -0  Not sure about this, but i won't stop you.
[ ] -1 No, because __

The voting period is typically 72 hours, but i won't wrap it up until
the morning of Monday, July 2 at the earliest.  If there aren't enough +1s
and no -1s, then the vote will stay open until either i'm tired of
waiting or all PMC members have voted. :)

My vote is +1

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Re: [VOTE] Release VelocityTools 2.0-alpha1

2007-06-28 Thread Nathan Bubna

Turns out the "test" directory was being left out of the source zips,
both in 2.x and 1.x.  I'll re-post the vote for 2.0-alpha1 promptly...

On 6/28/07, Will Glass-Husain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi

-1.  ant test fails for me.  Or is there something I'm doing wrong?  I'm
running JDK 1.5 and ant 1.7.  (confirmed with "ant env" and "ant -version").

* downloaded "velocity-tools-2.0-alpha1-src.zip"
* unzip and cd to main directory
* ant clean
* ant test

test.generic:

prepare.test:
[mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\My
Documents\Workspace\misc\velocity-tools-2.0-alpha1-src\buil
d\test\rst
[mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\My
Documents\Workspace\misc\velocity-tools-2.0-alpha1-src\buil
d\test\classes
[mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\My
Documents\Workspace\misc\velocity-tools-2.0-alpha1-src\buil
d\test\log
 [copy] Copying 7 files to C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\My
Documents\Workspace\misc\velocity-tools-2.0-alpha1-sr
c\build\test\src

BUILD FAILED
C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\My Documents\Workspace\misc\velocity-
tools-2.0-alpha1-src\build.xml:599: The following
error occurred while executing this line:
C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\My Documents\Workspace\misc\velocity-
tools-2.0-alpha1-src\test.xml:75: Warning: Could n
ot find file C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\My
Documents\Workspace\misc\velocity-tools-2.0-alpha1-src\test\etc\jetty.x
ml.tmpl to copy.

WILL




On 6/28/07, Nathan Bubna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 6/27/07, Nathan Bubna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > VelocityTools 2.0 is, in my estimation, ready for an alpha release.  I
> > would call this a beta, but it has essentially no updated
> > documentation and has received precious little feedback to date.
> >
> > The test build for this release is available at:
> > http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-alpha1/
> >
> > Check out the release artifacts, play with an example, and vote! :)
> >
> > [ ] +1 Let's do it
> > [ ] +0 Have fun; i don't care.
> > [ ] -0  Not sure about this, but i won't stop you.
> > [ ] -1 No, because __
> >
> > The voting period is typically 72 hours, putting its close time as
> > roughly 10am PST on Saturday, Feb 24th.  If there aren't enough +1s
> > and no -1s, then the vote will stay open until either i'm tired of
> > waiting or all PMC members have voted. :)
>
> By the way, that close date should have been updated to "roughly 4pm
> PST on Saturday, June 30th".  Oops. :)
>
> > My vote is +1
> >
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Re: [VOTE] Release VelocityTools 2.0-alpha1

2007-06-28 Thread Will Glass-Husain

Hi Marino,

Just to clarify... when you tested the build, did you actually download the
binary release candidate and do 'ant test' from there?  Or did you just work
from svn head.

Looking at Nathan's recent commit, I think the actual release binary was
missing the test files.

WILL

On 6/28/07, Will Glass-Husain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Maybe it's a Windows issue?

On 6/28/07, Marinó A. Jónsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'm using the current HEAD and it works fine for me :)
>
> +1
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf
> Of Will Glass-Husain
> Sent: 28. júní 2007 18:44
> To: Velocity Developers List
> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release VelocityTools 2.0-alpha1
>
> Hi
>
> -1.  ant test fails for me.  Or is there something I'm doing wrong?  I'm
> running JDK 1.5 and ant 1.7.  (confirmed with "ant env" and "ant
> -version").
>
> * downloaded "velocity-tools-2.0-alpha1-src.zip"
> * unzip and cd to main directory
> * ant clean
> * ant test
>
> test.generic:
>
> prepare.test:
> [mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\My
> Documents\Workspace\misc\velocity-tools-2.0-alpha1-src\buil
> d\test\rst
> [mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\My
> Documents\Workspace\misc\velocity-tools-2.0-alpha1-src\buil
> d\test\classes
> [mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\My
> Documents\Workspace\misc\velocity-tools-2.0-alpha1-src\buil
> d\test\log
>  [copy] Copying 7 files to C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\My
> Documents\Workspace\misc\velocity- tools-2.0-alpha1-sr
> c\build\test\src
>
> BUILD FAILED
> C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\My Documents\Workspace\misc\velocity-
> tools-2.0-alpha1-src\build.xml:599: The following error occurred while
> executing this line:
> C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\My Documents\Workspace\misc\velocity-
> tools-2.0-alpha1-src\test.xml:75: Warning: Could n ot find file
> C:\Documents
> and Settings\wglass\My
> Documents\Workspace\misc\velocity-tools-2.0-alpha1-src\test\etc\jetty.x
> ml.tmpl to copy.
>
> WILL
>
>
>
>
> On 6/28/07, Nathan Bubna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > On 6/27/07, Nathan Bubna < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > VelocityTools 2.0 is, in my estimation, ready for an alpha release.
> > > I would call this a beta, but it has essentially no updated
> > > documentation and has received precious little feedback to date.
> > >
> > > The test build for this release is available at:
> > > 
http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-alpha1/<http://people.apache.org/%7Enbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-alpha1/>
> > >
> > > Check out the release artifacts, play with an example, and vote! :)
> > >
> > > [ ] +1 Let's do it
> > > [ ] +0 Have fun; i don't care.
> > > [ ] -0  Not sure about this, but i won't stop you.
> > > [ ] -1 No, because __
> > >
> > > The voting period is typically 72 hours, putting its close time as
> > > roughly 10am PST on Saturday, Feb 24th.  If there aren't enough +1s
> > > and no -1s, then the vote will stay open until either i'm tired of
> > > waiting or all PMC members have voted. :)
> >
> > By the way, that close date should have been updated to "roughly 4pm
> > PST on Saturday, June 30th".  Oops. :)
> >
> > > My vote is +1
> > >
> >
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Re: [VOTE] Release VelocityTools 2.0-alpha1

2007-06-28 Thread Will Glass-Husain

Maybe it's a Windows issue?

On 6/28/07, Marinó A. Jónsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I'm using the current HEAD and it works fine for me :)

+1

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Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release VelocityTools 2.0-alpha1

Hi

-1.  ant test fails for me.  Or is there something I'm doing wrong?  I'm
running JDK 1.5 and ant 1.7.  (confirmed with "ant env" and "ant
-version").

* downloaded "velocity-tools-2.0-alpha1-src.zip"
* unzip and cd to main directory
* ant clean
* ant test

test.generic:

prepare.test:
[mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\My
Documents\Workspace\misc\velocity-tools-2.0-alpha1-src\buil
d\test\rst
[mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\My
Documents\Workspace\misc\velocity-tools-2.0-alpha1-src\buil
d\test\classes
[mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\My
Documents\Workspace\misc\velocity-tools-2.0-alpha1-src\buil
d\test\log
 [copy] Copying 7 files to C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\My
Documents\Workspace\misc\velocity-tools-2.0-alpha1-sr
c\build\test\src

BUILD FAILED
C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\My Documents\Workspace\misc\velocity-
tools-2.0-alpha1-src\build.xml:599: The following error occurred while
executing this line:
C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\My Documents\Workspace\misc\velocity-
tools-2.0-alpha1-src\test.xml:75: Warning: Could n ot find file
C:\Documents
and Settings\wglass\My
Documents\Workspace\misc\velocity-tools-2.0-alpha1-src\test\etc\jetty.x
ml.tmpl to copy.

WILL




On 6/28/07, Nathan Bubna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 6/27/07, Nathan Bubna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > VelocityTools 2.0 is, in my estimation, ready for an alpha release.
> > I would call this a beta, but it has essentially no updated
> > documentation and has received precious little feedback to date.
> >
> > The test build for this release is available at:
> > http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-alpha1/
> >
> > Check out the release artifacts, play with an example, and vote! :)
> >
> > [ ] +1 Let's do it
> > [ ] +0 Have fun; i don't care.
> > [ ] -0  Not sure about this, but i won't stop you.
> > [ ] -1 No, because __
> >
> > The voting period is typically 72 hours, putting its close time as
> > roughly 10am PST on Saturday, Feb 24th.  If there aren't enough +1s
> > and no -1s, then the vote will stay open until either i'm tired of
> > waiting or all PMC members have voted. :)
>
> By the way, that close date should have been updated to "roughly 4pm
> PST on Saturday, June 30th".  Oops. :)
>
> > My vote is +1
> >
>
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RE: [VOTE] Release VelocityTools 2.0-alpha1

2007-06-28 Thread Marinó A . Jónsson
I'm using the current HEAD and it works fine for me :)

+1

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Of Will Glass-Husain
Sent: 28. júní 2007 18:44
To: Velocity Developers List
Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release VelocityTools 2.0-alpha1

Hi

-1.  ant test fails for me.  Or is there something I'm doing wrong?  I'm
running JDK 1.5 and ant 1.7.  (confirmed with "ant env" and "ant -version").

* downloaded "velocity-tools-2.0-alpha1-src.zip"
* unzip and cd to main directory
* ant clean
* ant test

test.generic:

prepare.test:
[mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\My
Documents\Workspace\misc\velocity-tools-2.0-alpha1-src\buil
d\test\rst
[mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\My
Documents\Workspace\misc\velocity-tools-2.0-alpha1-src\buil
d\test\classes
[mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\My
Documents\Workspace\misc\velocity-tools-2.0-alpha1-src\buil
d\test\log
 [copy] Copying 7 files to C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\My
Documents\Workspace\misc\velocity-tools-2.0-alpha1-sr
c\build\test\src

BUILD FAILED
C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\My Documents\Workspace\misc\velocity-
tools-2.0-alpha1-src\build.xml:599: The following error occurred while
executing this line:
C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\My Documents\Workspace\misc\velocity-
tools-2.0-alpha1-src\test.xml:75: Warning: Could n ot find file C:\Documents
and Settings\wglass\My
Documents\Workspace\misc\velocity-tools-2.0-alpha1-src\test\etc\jetty.x
ml.tmpl to copy.

WILL




On 6/28/07, Nathan Bubna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 6/27/07, Nathan Bubna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > VelocityTools 2.0 is, in my estimation, ready for an alpha release.  
> > I would call this a beta, but it has essentially no updated 
> > documentation and has received precious little feedback to date.
> >
> > The test build for this release is available at:
> > http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-alpha1/
> >
> > Check out the release artifacts, play with an example, and vote! :)
> >
> > [ ] +1 Let's do it
> > [ ] +0 Have fun; i don't care.
> > [ ] -0  Not sure about this, but i won't stop you.
> > [ ] -1 No, because __
> >
> > The voting period is typically 72 hours, putting its close time as 
> > roughly 10am PST on Saturday, Feb 24th.  If there aren't enough +1s 
> > and no -1s, then the vote will stay open until either i'm tired of 
> > waiting or all PMC members have voted. :)
>
> By the way, that close date should have been updated to "roughly 4pm 
> PST on Saturday, June 30th".  Oops. :)
>
> > My vote is +1
> >
>
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Re: [VOTE] Release VelocityTools 2.0-alpha1

2007-06-28 Thread Will Glass-Husain

Hi

-1.  ant test fails for me.  Or is there something I'm doing wrong?  I'm
running JDK 1.5 and ant 1.7.  (confirmed with "ant env" and "ant -version").

* downloaded "velocity-tools-2.0-alpha1-src.zip"
* unzip and cd to main directory
* ant clean
* ant test

test.generic:

prepare.test:
   [mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\My
Documents\Workspace\misc\velocity-tools-2.0-alpha1-src\buil
d\test\rst
   [mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\My
Documents\Workspace\misc\velocity-tools-2.0-alpha1-src\buil
d\test\classes
   [mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\My
Documents\Workspace\misc\velocity-tools-2.0-alpha1-src\buil
d\test\log
[copy] Copying 7 files to C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\My
Documents\Workspace\misc\velocity-tools-2.0-alpha1-sr
c\build\test\src

BUILD FAILED
C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\My Documents\Workspace\misc\velocity-
tools-2.0-alpha1-src\build.xml:599: The following
error occurred while executing this line:
C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\My Documents\Workspace\misc\velocity-
tools-2.0-alpha1-src\test.xml:75: Warning: Could n
ot find file C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\My
Documents\Workspace\misc\velocity-tools-2.0-alpha1-src\test\etc\jetty.x
ml.tmpl to copy.

WILL




On 6/28/07, Nathan Bubna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On 6/27/07, Nathan Bubna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> VelocityTools 2.0 is, in my estimation, ready for an alpha release.  I
> would call this a beta, but it has essentially no updated
> documentation and has received precious little feedback to date.
>
> The test build for this release is available at:
> http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-alpha1/
>
> Check out the release artifacts, play with an example, and vote! :)
>
> [ ] +1 Let's do it
> [ ] +0 Have fun; i don't care.
> [ ] -0  Not sure about this, but i won't stop you.
> [ ] -1 No, because __
>
> The voting period is typically 72 hours, putting its close time as
> roughly 10am PST on Saturday, Feb 24th.  If there aren't enough +1s
> and no -1s, then the vote will stay open until either i'm tired of
> waiting or all PMC members have voted. :)

By the way, that close date should have been updated to "roughly 4pm
PST on Saturday, June 30th".  Oops. :)

> My vote is +1
>

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Re: [VOTE] Release VelocityTools 2.0-alpha1

2007-06-28 Thread Nathan Bubna

If you need the extra hour, then you are welcome to it. :)

On 6/28/07, Will Glass-Husain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

PST or PDT?   Nice bonus to get that extra hour :-)

 :-)



On 6/28/07, Nathan Bubna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 6/27/07, Nathan Bubna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > VelocityTools 2.0 is, in my estimation, ready for an alpha release.  I
> > would call this a beta, but it has essentially no updated
> > documentation and has received precious little feedback to date.
> >
> > The test build for this release is available at:
> > http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-alpha1/
> >
> > Check out the release artifacts, play with an example, and vote! :)
> >
> > [ ] +1 Let's do it
> > [ ] +0 Have fun; i don't care.
> > [ ] -0  Not sure about this, but i won't stop you.
> > [ ] -1 No, because __
> >
> > The voting period is typically 72 hours, putting its close time as
> > roughly 10am PST on Saturday, Feb 24th.  If there aren't enough +1s
> > and no -1s, then the vote will stay open until either i'm tired of
> > waiting or all PMC members have voted. :)
>
> By the way, that close date should have been updated to "roughly 4pm
> PST on Saturday, June 30th".  Oops. :)
>
> > My vote is +1
> >
>
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Re: [VOTE] Release VelocityTools 2.0-alpha1

2007-06-28 Thread Will Glass-Husain

PST or PDT?   Nice bonus to get that extra hour :-)

:-)



On 6/28/07, Nathan Bubna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On 6/27/07, Nathan Bubna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> VelocityTools 2.0 is, in my estimation, ready for an alpha release.  I
> would call this a beta, but it has essentially no updated
> documentation and has received precious little feedback to date.
>
> The test build for this release is available at:
> http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-alpha1/
>
> Check out the release artifacts, play with an example, and vote! :)
>
> [ ] +1 Let's do it
> [ ] +0 Have fun; i don't care.
> [ ] -0  Not sure about this, but i won't stop you.
> [ ] -1 No, because __
>
> The voting period is typically 72 hours, putting its close time as
> roughly 10am PST on Saturday, Feb 24th.  If there aren't enough +1s
> and no -1s, then the vote will stay open until either i'm tired of
> waiting or all PMC members have voted. :)

By the way, that close date should have been updated to "roughly 4pm
PST on Saturday, June 30th".  Oops. :)

> My vote is +1
>

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Re: [VOTE] Release VelocityTools 2.0-alpha1

2007-06-28 Thread Nathan Bubna

On 6/27/07, Nathan Bubna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

VelocityTools 2.0 is, in my estimation, ready for an alpha release.  I
would call this a beta, but it has essentially no updated
documentation and has received precious little feedback to date.

The test build for this release is available at:
http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-alpha1/

Check out the release artifacts, play with an example, and vote! :)

[ ] +1 Let's do it
[ ] +0 Have fun; i don't care.
[ ] -0  Not sure about this, but i won't stop you.
[ ] -1 No, because __

The voting period is typically 72 hours, putting its close time as
roughly 10am PST on Saturday, Feb 24th.  If there aren't enough +1s
and no -1s, then the vote will stay open until either i'm tired of
waiting or all PMC members have voted. :)


By the way, that close date should have been updated to "roughly 4pm
PST on Saturday, June 30th".  Oops. :)


My vote is +1



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