Re: [SailfishDevel] sporadic bouts of Could not connect to MerSDK Virtual Machine. Timeout waiting for reply from server.
Hi Jarko and Juha Right now QtCreator is deploying as RPM without a problem - whereas last week it was consistently giving the error. I am sure it will rear its ugly head soon, so I will report back then following your advice. In the meantime, some more background info. I am on OSX 10.8.5 on a MBA. I am running the very latest SailfishOS SDK, but have had this problem with previous versions to. I have lots of applicaitons running on the MBA, including QtCreator Lotus Notes, MS Office, Thunderbird, Chrome, Safari, Terminal, a VPN etc. I almost never shutdown / restart unless forced to. . I move between various networks - at home, office, hotspot on Jolla, VPN to office etc. I do a lot of Sailfish Development mobile - on the train, and thus often open and shut the laptop lid during development The problem can occur out of the blue: i.e. 30 seconds previously it successfully deployed - I make a small one line change to the code, try to redeploy, and bingo: the problem occurs. The progress bar for the build was at about 50 % complete or more. The timeout comes after seconds rather than minutes (but I need to reproduce it again to give more accurate timings). During the problem I have been able to ssh into the SDK and Emulator with no noticeable problem. Chris On 02.06.14 10:23, Jarko Vihriala wrote: when that happens, have you tried to SSH into the MerSDK from command line. We have seen issues where the SSH key exchange takes long time for some reason , currently that's under investigation. If you want to help in that, - you could do a SSH session inside MerSDK and run journalctl -fa in terminal - run deploy commands from Qt Creator - observe the output, is there a +10s timeout in the log somewhere (looking at timestamps)? thanks, Jarko *From:* devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org [devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] on behalf of Tone Kastlunger [users.giulie...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Saturday, May 31, 2014 11:28 AM *To:* Sailfish OS Developers *Subject:* Re: [SailfishDevel] sporadic bouts of Could not connect to MerSDK Virtual Machine. Timeout waiting for reply from server. Hi I for once happen to get the issue every once in a while even during binary deployment. Best, tk On Thursday, May 29, 2014, Christopher Lamb christopher.l...@thurweb.ch mailto:christopher.l...@thurweb.ch wrote: Hi All I am still suffering from this issue, and getting more and more frustrated! Right now it is refusing to deploy as RPM to the Emulator. Is anything I can do to better debug / understand this issue? The timeout settings previously suggested are probably red-herrings, as they apply to the device (phone / Emulator), whereas the error is a timeout to the SDK. All help greatly appreciated. Grüsse Chris On 28.04.14 08:01, christopher.l...@thurweb.ch wrote: Hi Thanks. I found a well hidden {1} timeout setting in the preferences / devices and increased this from the default 2 secs to 10 secs. This does seem to help, but as always with sporadic problems only time will tell if this is a fix, or if the problem is just dormant for a while. What I don't understand is, given the error says Could not connect to MerSDK Virtual Machine why should a timeout for connecting to a Jolla device play any role? Is the error misleading? is the problem actually in connecting FROM the MerSDK to the Jolla? Chris {1} when the preferences pane opens, at least on my OSX host the timeout setting is offscreen in an embedded pane with scroll bars in the middle of the preferences pane. Only if you scroll down in the embedded pane are further settings including the timeout revealed. Truly a wonderful bit of UI design 8-) Zitat von fasza2mob...@gmail.com: I believe the timeout setting can be adjusted in QtCreator where you set up your mer device(ssh password, etc). By increasing this value you can probably prevent the timeout issue altogether. I don't have the SDK in front of me to give you the exact menu you need to open, but it isn't too hard to find once you know what you're looking for. On Sat Apr 26 2014 13:41:20 GMT+0100 (BST), christopher.l...@thurweb.ch wrote: Hi All I am suffering from sporadic bouts of the error: Could not connect to MerSDK Virtual Machine. Timeout waiting for reply from server One moment I can be happily hacking and deploying code to my Jolla without error. Then I make a small change to the code, try to deploy,
Re: [SailfishDevel] sporadic bouts of Could not connect to MerSDK Virtual Machine. Timeout waiting for reply from server.
Hi Jarko Have got on the train, started deploying, and get the problem. Below is output from the SDK and QtCreator. I am starting to wonder if the problem is related to networking in some way. This morning I successfully deployed at home - connected to the home wireless network. Now I am on the train - when I deployed / got the error) I was not connected to any network. (I have just opened the Jolla hotspot to send this mai). Chris SDK journalctl -fa output Apple-Pip:~ christopherlamb$ ssh -p -i ~/SailfishOS/vmshare/ssh/private_keys/engine/root root@localhost Last login: Wed Apr 30 07:00:35 2014 [root@SailfishSDK ~]# journalctl -fa Logs begin at Tue, 03 Jun 2014 06:00:29 +. Jun 03 06:48:07 SailfishSDK sshd[10191]: pam_unix(sshd:session): session closed for user mersdk Jun 03 06:48:07 SailfishSDK sshd[9470]: pam_unix(sshd:session): session closed for user mersdk Jun 03 06:48:07 SailfishSDK sshd[9447]: pam_unix(sshd:session): session closed for user mersdk Jun 03 06:48:07 SailfishSDK sshd[9447]: syslogin_perform_logout: logout() returned an error Jun 03 06:48:07 SailfishSDK systemd-logind[143]: Removed session c36. Jun 03 06:48:07 SailfishSDK systemd-logind[143]: Removed session c32. Jun 03 06:48:07 SailfishSDK systemd-logind[143]: Removed session c33. Jun 03 06:48:25 SailfishSDK sshd[10683]: Accepted publickey for root from 10.0.2.2 port 59953 ssh2 Jun 03 06:48:25 SailfishSDK systemd-logind[143]: New session c37 of user root. Jun 03 06:48:25 SailfishSDK sshd[10683]: pam_unix(sshd:session): session opened for user root by (uid=0) Jun 03 06:48:54 SailfishSDK sshd[10702]: Accepted publickey for mersdk from 10.0.2.2 port 59955 ssh2 Jun 03 06:48:54 SailfishSDK systemd-logind[143]: New session c38 of user mersdk. Jun 03 06:48:54 SailfishSDK sshd[10702]: pam_unix(sshd:session): session opened for user mersdk by (uid=0) Jun 03 06:49:00 SailfishSDK sshd[10707]: Accepted publickey for mersdk from 10.0.2.2 port 59958 ssh2 Jun 03 06:49:00 SailfishSDK systemd-logind[143]: New session c39 of user mersdk. Jun 03 06:49:00 SailfishSDK sshd[10707]: pam_unix(sshd:session): session opened for user mersdk by (uid=0) Jun 03 06:49:01 SailfishSDK sshd[10707]: pam_unix(sshd:session): session closed for user mersdk Jun 03 06:49:01 SailfishSDK systemd-logind[143]: Removed session c39. Jun 03 06:49:01 SailfishSDK sshd[11124]: Accepted publickey for mersdk from 10.0.2.2 port 59960 ssh2 Jun 03 06:49:01 SailfishSDK systemd-logind[143]: New session c40 of user mersdk. Jun 03 06:49:01 SailfishSDK sshd[11124]: pam_unix(sshd:session): session opened for user mersdk by (uid=0) Jun 03 06:49:04 SailfishSDK sshd[11124]: pam_unix(sshd:session): session closed for user mersdk Jun 03 06:49:04 SailfishSDK systemd-logind[143]: Removed session c40. Jun 03 06:49:04 SailfishSDK sshd[11423]: Accepted publickey for mersdk from 10.0.2.2 port 59962 ssh2 Jun 03 06:49:04 SailfishSDK systemd-logind[143]: New session c41 of user mersdk. Jun 03 06:49:04 SailfishSDK sshd[11423]: pam_unix(sshd:session): session opened for user mersdk by (uid=0) Jun 03 06:49:04 SailfishSDK sshd[10705]: dispatch_protocol_error: type 128 seq 5 Jun 03 06:50:07 SailfishSDK sshd[11426]: dispatch_protocol_error: type 128 seq 8 Jun 03 06:50:07 SailfishSDK sshd[10705]: dispatch_protocol_error: type 128 seq 6 Jun 03 06:50:07 SailfishSDK sshd[10705]: Received disconnect from 10.0.2.2: 11: Jun 03 06:50:07 SailfishSDK sshd[11423]: pam_unix(sshd:session): session closed for user mersdk Jun 03 06:50:07 SailfishSDK sshd[10702]: pam_unix(sshd:session): session closed for user mersdk Jun 03 06:50:07 SailfishSDK systemd-logind[143]: Removed session c41. Jun 03 06:50:07 SailfishSDK systemd-logind[143]: Removed session c38. //Qt Creator Output 08:49:00: Running steps for project beertent... 08:49:00: Starting: /Users/christopherlamb/.config/SailfishAlpha4/mer-sdk-tools/MerSDK/SailfishOS-i486/qmake /Users/christopherlamb/SailfishProjects/beertent/beertent/beertent.pro -r -spec linux-g++ CONFIG+=debug CONFIG+=declarative_debug CONFIG+=qml_debug Executing(%build): /bin/sh -e /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.Abqi8B 08:49:01: The process /Users/christopherlamb/.config/SailfishAlpha4/mer-sdk-tools/MerSDK/SailfishOS-i486/qmake exited normally. 08:49:01: Starting: /Users/christopherlamb/.config/SailfishAlpha4/mer-sdk-tools/MerSDK/SailfishOS-i486/make Executing(%build): /bin/sh -e /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.vaeuWx mkdir -p translations lupdate /home/mersdk/share/SailfishProjects/beertent/beertent/src /home/mersdk/share/SailfishProjects/beertent/beertent/qml -ts /home/mersdk/share/SailfishProjects/beertent/beertent/translations/beertent.ts Scanning directory '/home/mersdk/share/SailfishProjects/beertent/beertent/src'... Scanning directory '/home/mersdk/share/SailfishProjects/beertent/beertent/qml'... Updating '../beertent/translations/beertent.ts'... Found 7 source text(s) (0 new and 7 already existing) lrelease
Re: [SailfishDevel] sporadic bouts of Could not connect to MerSDK Virtual Machine. Timeout waiting for reply from server.
Hi Jarko Still on the train, now with the Jolla Wifi Hotspot active, and I can build without problems. This indicates that I get the problem when no network is connected. In this case I am deploying to the Emulator, so no network should be required Grüsse Chris On 02.06.14 10:23, Jarko Vihriala wrote: journalctl -fa ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] sporadic bouts of Could not connect to MerSDK Virtual Machine. Timeout waiting for reply from server.
I get the same error often when developing with Windows 8 64-bit, never on Mac OSX 10. They are both always connected to the (same) network. It helps to close and open the virtual machine, the it stays reachable for another while once it does the same again. - Saija Lähetetty iPadista Christopher Lamb christopher.l...@thurweb.ch kirjoitti 3.6.2014 kello 9.58: Hi Jarko Still on the train, now with the Jolla Wifi Hotspot active, and I can build without problems. This indicates that I get the problem when no network is connected. In this case I am deploying to the Emulator, so no network should be required Grüsse Chris On 02.06.14 10:23, Jarko Vihriala wrote: journalctl -fa ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] sporadic bouts of Could not connect to MerSDK Virtual Machine. Timeout waiting for reply from server.
Hi Saija In my case restarting the VMs does not help. I think (from memory) that rebooting the whole laptop does help. It is possible that the same reported error may have a number of different causes - in my case it seems to be when my development host loses its network connection (though as with all sporadic problems it is difficult to be sure). Thanks Chris On 03.06.14 09:02, Saija Saarenpää wrote: I get the same error often when developing with Windows 8 64-bit, never on Mac OSX 10. They are both always connected to the (same) network. It helps to close and open the virtual machine, the it stays reachable for another while once it does the same again. - Saija Lähetetty iPadista Christopher Lamb christopher.l...@thurweb.ch kirjoitti 3.6.2014 kello 9.58: Hi Jarko Still on the train, now with the Jolla Wifi Hotspot active, and I can build without problems. This indicates that I get the problem when no network is connected. In this case I am deploying to the Emulator, so no network should be required Grüsse Chris On 02.06.14 10:23, Jarko Vihriala wrote: journalctl -fa ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] sporadic bouts of Could not connect to MerSDK Virtual Machine. Timeout waiting for reply from server.
Oh, that sounds like a lot worse case than mine. I can live with mine since it's easy to fix temporarily, but I truly hope the cause is found for your case and fixed permanently. - Saija Lähetetty iPadista Christopher Lamb christopher.l...@thurweb.ch kirjoitti 3.6.2014 kello 10.24: Hi Saija In my case restarting the VMs does not help. I think (from memory) that rebooting the whole laptop does help. It is possible that the same reported error may have a number of different causes - in my case it seems to be when my development host loses its network connection (though as with all sporadic problems it is difficult to be sure). Thanks Chris On 03.06.14 09:02, Saija Saarenpää wrote: I get the same error often when developing with Windows 8 64-bit, never on Mac OSX 10. They are both always connected to the (same) network. It helps to close and open the virtual machine, the it stays reachable for another while once it does the same again. - Saija Lähetetty iPadista Christopher Lamb christopher.l...@thurweb.ch kirjoitti 3.6.2014 kello 9.58: Hi Jarko Still on the train, now with the Jolla Wifi Hotspot active, and I can build without problems. This indicates that I get the problem when no network is connected. In this case I am deploying to the Emulator, so no network should be required Grüsse Chris On 02.06.14 10:23, Jarko Vihriala wrote: journalctl -fa ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] sporadic bouts of Could not connect to MerSDK Virtual Machine. Timeout waiting for reply from server.
Hi Christopher, the changing networks may play a part in this problem. Did I already sometime earlier ask you to modify your Mac's /etc/hosts file? It has helped in some cases to add the name for the MerSDK virtual machine to /etc/hosts like this: 127.0.0.1 SailfishSDK Or if you already have the 127.0.0.1 there, just add the SailfishSDK to the end of the existing line like this: 127.0.0.1localhost.localdomain localhost SailfishSDK Could you try this and let me know if there's any improvement? If you already have it there.. well then we'll have to think of something else. VirtualBox has some DNS related settings like these: |--natdnsproxy1-N on|off|: This option makes the NAT engine proxy all guest DNS requests to the host's DNS servers| | |--natdnshostresolver1-N on|off|: This option makes the NAT engine use the host's resolver mechanisms to handle DNS requests Of these we use the --natdnshostresolver1 on in MerSDK and the Emulator. The options are documented here: http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch08.html#vboxmanage-modifyvm The rpmbuild command does a DNS query in the place where the failure is in your log. Usually it just prints out: warning: Could not canonicalize hostname: SailfishSDK Which is fine.. but in some networks that bit can cause a failure. In those cases modifying the /etc/hosts file has helped. Best regards, Juha On 03.06.2014 10:24, Christopher Lamb wrote: Hi Saija In my case restarting the VMs does not help. I think (from memory) that rebooting the whole laptop does help. It is possible that the same reported error may have a number of different causes - in my case it seems to be when my development host loses its network connection (though as with all sporadic problems it is difficult to be sure). Thanks Chris On 03.06.14 09:02, Saija Saarenpää wrote: I get the same error often when developing with Windows 8 64-bit, never on Mac OSX 10. They are both always connected to the (same) network. It helps to close and open the virtual machine, the it stays reachable for another while once it does the same again. - Saija Lähetetty iPadista Christopher Lamb christopher.l...@thurweb.ch kirjoitti 3.6.2014 kello 9.58: Hi Jarko Still on the train, now with the Jolla Wifi Hotspot active, and I can build without problems. This indicates that I get the problem when no network is connected. In this case I am deploying to the Emulator, so no network should be required Grüsse Chris On 02.06.14 10:23, Jarko Vihriala wrote: journalctl -fa ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
[SailfishDevel] [Minutes] SailfishOS community meeting 03 June + planning for next one 10 June
Hi, Thanks to everyone who attended todays's meeting. Minutes/logs: Minutes: http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/2014/mer-meeting.2014-06-03-10.00.html Minutes (text): http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/2014/mer-meeting.2014-06-03-10.00.txt Log: http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/2014/mer-meeting.2014-06-03-10.00.log.html Next meeting will be on 2014-06-10 @ 15:00 UTC. Meeting Chair will be cybette unless someone volunteers until then. Please propose discussion topics, with some content/details at: http://piratepad.net/SailfishOSSMeetings (add your name/nick if you suggest a topic and will present the topic at the meeting, or name someone who should present. Indicate how much time approximately you will need for the topic so we can timebox the meeting accordingly) NOTE: Propose your topic by Friday 06 June. Any topics added after that will be considered for the following meeting. This is so that people involved can prepare for the discussions before the meeting. Thanks, netzvieh ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] [Minutes] SailfishOS community meeting 03 June + planning for next one 10 June
For those who don't want to delve into the meeting logs, here the full description of Basil Semuonovs topic from the Pirate Pad: Harbour SailfishOS apps compatibility Statement: Problem with SailfishOS fragmentation is coming. Harbour/Store is not prepared for it. Description: Now we have 1 device running official SailfishOS - the Jolla Phone. And one major SailfishOS version running on devices. One day Jolla will release another device. Also, SailfishOS targets to be on android devices, and once SailfishOS will be ported, lots of supported devices will appear. This will cause fragmentation in terms of 'base' specs of devices. To make it clear, i'm not talking about 'this smartphone have an attachable DVD-ROM, and that will have ultra-3D-touch surface'. I'm talking about screen resolution aspect, CPU GPU performance, amount of RAM. Most of devices will have 1gb+ ram, 2+ cores, 16:9/16:10 aspect. Of course, SailfishOS versions will be different on all devices, since there are some hardware problems, or just timeframe related 'complication' issues during new SailfishOS version release time. Every-day apps like notes/music player/etc will probably work just fine. Some of 3d enabled games will. But most of gorgeous apps would break the leg here: some should not be runned on square resolultion, some require atleast 2gb of RAM to work as expected and provide neat user experience. Or imaging 'streaming apps', that require LTE support for fast connection. Also, SailfishOS is rapidly developing. Dont you say that you will always use Qt 5.2 core libs? What if Qt releases 6.x in a month with 'breaking quantum-state-processor support', and it will installed in every 2 of 3 flagship phones. What will happen to all already published apps, if you change some of core packages to new major version? Possible solution: SailfishOS: Introduce core meta packet(s) with sfos version, which, maybe, depend on target device(or its specs), so apps can depend on it. Harbour: Add target SailfishOS version/device specs for application, while publishing. Best regards, netzvieh ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] sporadic bouts of Could not connect to MerSDK Virtual Machine. Timeout waiting for reply from server.
Hi Juha I have edited my /etc/hosts to look like this: 127.0.0.1 localhost SailfishSDK 255.255.255.255 broadcasthost ::1 localhost fe80::1%lo0 localhost Now in the office, with WIFI turned off, and no ethernet plugged in, I can deploy as RPM successfully! So for the moment it looks like editing the /etc/hosts may be enough. Later this evening on train on the way home I will try with WiFi activated but no proper connection (which means it will probably default to the SBB/Swisscom WiFi which requires a logon to properly connect). Thanks Chris On 03.06.14 11:24, Juha Kallioinen wrote: Hi Christopher, the changing networks may play a part in this problem. Did I already sometime earlier ask you to modify your Mac's /etc/hosts file? It has helped in some cases to add the name for the MerSDK virtual machine to /etc/hosts like this: 127.0.0.1 SailfishSDK Or if you already have the 127.0.0.1 there, just add the SailfishSDK to the end of the existing line like this: 127.0.0.1localhost.localdomain localhost SailfishSDK Could you try this and let me know if there's any improvement? ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] sporadic bouts of Could not connect to MerSDK Virtual Machine. Timeout waiting for reply from server.
Hi Juha I am now on the train. Deployment also works with WiFi active, but not properly connected. This means that - at least in my case - adding SailfishSDK to the /etc/hosts is a good fix for this error. I think this is one for the Known Issues page. I guess that (without the entry in /etc/hosts) active networking is required for SailfishSDK to be resolved. Of course I could SSH in, because I was using localhost as the machine name to connect (ssh -p -i ~/SailfishOS/vmshare/ssh/private_keys/engine/root root@localhost). Thanks for your help and forebearance, Chris On 03.06.14 17:15, Christopher Lamb wrote: Hi Juha I have edited my /etc/hosts to look like this: 127.0.0.1 localhost SailfishSDK 255.255.255.255 broadcasthost ::1 localhost fe80::1%lo0 localhost Now in the office, with WIFI turned off, and no ethernet plugged in, I can deploy as RPM successfully! So for the moment it looks like editing the /etc/hosts may be enough. Later this evening on train on the way home I will try with WiFi activated but no proper connection (which means it will probably default to the SBB/Swisscom WiFi which requires a logon to properly connect). Thanks Chris On 03.06.14 11:24, Juha Kallioinen wrote: Hi Christopher, the changing networks may play a part in this problem. Did I already sometime earlier ask you to modify your Mac's /etc/hosts file? It has helped in some cases to add the name for the MerSDK virtual machine to /etc/hosts like this: 127.0.0.1 SailfishSDK Or if you already have the 127.0.0.1 there, just add the SailfishSDK to the end of the existing line like this: 127.0.0.1localhost.localdomain localhost SailfishSDK Could you try this and let me know if there's any improvement? ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
[SailfishDevel] SDL2 without OpenGL, nothing but a black screen
Ahoy, I was coding something simple with 2D-only graphics using SDL2, and noticed that drawing graphics that does work in the emulator, does not work on the actual phone. To demonstrate that, I copied the example code from https://wiki.libsdl.org/SDL_CreateRenderer, added a Makefile and hello.bmp, and placed those onto GitHub: https://github.com/lanurmi/sailfish-minimal-sdl. As also described in README.md, the sample runs fine in the emulator, but fails to show anything but a black screen on the actual phone. Additionally, if the |SDL_RENDERER_SOFTWARE ||flag is used instead of SDL_RENDERER_ACCELERATED, the sample still runs on the emulator, but causes a segmentation fault on the phone. The phone is running 1.0.5.19. Am I doing something wrong? (Can't imagine what that would be.) Best Regards, Lauri Nurmi | ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org