[freenet-dev] website spanish translation rev 1
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It has been merged into staging, and I hope it'll be deployed this weekend along with the rest of the server work planned. - -operhiem1 On 03/14/2012 07:20 AM, Ian Clarke wrote: > Great work! Have we merged this yet? > > Ian. > > On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Flavio Heredia > wrote: > >> good morning list. >> >> a revision of website spanish translation is ready and a pull >> request done. >> >> many typos corrected and a better translation improved. >> >> for a preview please see http://merlinux.com.ar/freenetproject/ >> >> also in freenet. >> >> enjoy and kind regards. merlin >> >> On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 10:10 AM, Flavio Heredia >> wrote: >>> On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Steve Dougherty >>> >> wrote: Looks great! I'm in the process of deploying it. Is "Convesar" in "Compartir, Convesar, Navegar. Anonimamente. En la Red Libre" a typo for "Conversar?" Thanks, operhiem1 On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Flavio Heredia >> wrote: > >>> >>> yes, it is... i'm working in a review and many of this and >>> other errors will be corrected. thanks a lot for feedback...! >>> merlin >> ___ Devl mailing >> list Devl at freenetproject.org >> http://freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl >> > > > > > > ___ Devl mailing list > Devl at freenetproject.org > http://freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJPYR8sAAoJECLJP19KqmFuiLIP/15P6q1vQTRDMXINnp1EWvvU ay+3n7hk0QxPXHc0UMzX3hjKj2vQmsbAbPqCRFLEexP42kBYywc9bgk0G9YArXhv ErKvthw/7f5Jq2NiTeC+8xsXIjaERtpQFfJe5h1slVNLvzoBvUEccTIO7XC0ycJK NNGDIojXFGMTqqHzcERGZK+O0Ld9l1jXGo7DN7bGujz3J5wQv0tR959V0iMIEAzP oLt4pOmv5C84+V0VySTtjyEyKYI5jPiQKt9NUOGvj72n8ZeWZLC9EmN76KR2gkKi EsOjvVciUJSTI6g//vQxKaQCawcKoDJvIQGZjKnZL5k79B2dokvdc5YkZyKbz5Us c0V+KO5wEyUx5m4s9aX28oOWaFNN5P8BkWPP+RQIZV5OY8XvS5HvmbG8CBK5/HwU M56Gn/KfCAP6ZGWiO1aZ010EMnAR04RIREMrzi+2WV0VI39N+BPy2igCEHj4RE3d asVnForOux1qczTVYLFxE2kZClvM00UE3iHKQEiU/ICQJo+txGHpbz+qjy2/i3BT kfDiAYpiW163jRXKNytvYCEfAb6AF1BrGTf+IKjxVr/sYCPHkTj4QSDnazgwcSd1 3o7xOEkRxDoQ8CCiUq5y7eLt+SF3fa75vmApUHzb/FBsu4f//QTb2Z9Ss9E07+9f 4XCla/MMHOeCUeTVpWxc =97ye -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[freenet-dev] Should we switch the websites to httpS only?
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 06:19:07AM -0500, Ian Clarke wrote: > On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Evan Daniel wrote: > > > I'm in favor of https only. The only real arguments against it are > > probably server cpu load. I assume that given our traffic levels, > > that's not likely to be an issue? > > > Actually it might. While we normally hover around 2,500 visits per day, > which the server should be able to handle quite easily, we do occasionally > get linked from high-traffic websites which puts a lot more strain on the > server. > > It's important that the server doesn't go down on these occasions as they > are an important way to acquire new users, donors, and developers. > > Ian. That might have been a concern a decade ago, it's not anymore... back then we had a dynamic website, nowadays everything is static and (much) faster. Talking about SSL: some of the SSL ciphers are quite fast... and even accelerated in hardware! http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/wasinfo/v6r0/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.ibm.websphere.express.doc%2Finfo%2Fexp%2Fae%2Frprf_ssl.html http://zombe.es/post/4078724716/openssl-cipher-selection I've tweaked what we use on osprey already: RC4-SHA as a first choice, AES-128-SHA the fallback... and the other ciphers then. When we will renew the SSL cert, I will ensure that we use a smaller keysize too; 4096 bits RSA is too big, even by my paranoid standards. We can't do ECC just yet (the openssl version we use doesn't support it)... and the VM we rent doesn't export AESNI's CPU flags. Florent
[freenet-dev] fproxy-ng first draft and a short roadmap
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/67035152/fproxy-ng.png It should be ok - Nicolas Hernandez a-n - aleph-networks *associ?* http://www.aleph-networks.com On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Ian Clarke wrote: > On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Nicolas Hernandez < > nicolas.hernandez at aleph-networks.com> wrote: > >> Here is the first draft of http://dl.free.fr/h8FSuBGNG >> <http://dl.free.fr/h8FSuBGNG> >> > > Nicolas, I can't seem to download this, I click on "T?l?charger ce > fichier" but nothing happens :-/ > > You might want to consider using http://dropbox.com/. > > Ian. > > > -- > Ian Clarke > Founder, The Freenet Project > Email: ian at freenetproject.org > > ___ > Devl mailing list > Devl at freenetproject.org > http://freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20120314/8341050a/attachment.html>
[freenet-dev] A general question about heavy UI
- Nicolas Hernandez a-n - aleph-networks *associ?* http://www.aleph-networks.com On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Ian Clarke wrote: > On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 5:53 AM, Nicolas Hernandez < > nicolas.hernandez at aleph-networks.com> wrote: > >> One of my expert (francis) ask me if it is a good idea to developp a >> frontend like Azureus wich could embed a freenet node ? >> Have you some reasons to say that this is a bad idea as personnal time >> invertissment ? The Freenet dev community is ok to receive this sort of >> contribution ? >> > > Would this be instead of or in addition to replicating FProxy's current > functionality? > in addition in my opinion > > This is certainly possible, however searching in Freenet is rather because > of how we must implement it internally, so it would be difficult to > replicate the experience of a file-sharing app like Azureus. > agree > > It is also very important that we do not do anything that might allow > someone to accuse us of inducing copyright infringement, although of course > there are many perfectly legitimate uses of file sharing applications. > > good alert ... ! ... we have that in our mind now. > Ian. > > -- > Ian Clarke > Founder, The Freenet Project > Email: ian at freenetproject.org > > > ___ > Devl mailing list > Devl at freenetproject.org > http://freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20120314/a6cac266/attachment.html>
[freenet-dev] A general question about heavy UI
Hello, One of my expert (francis) ask me if it is a good idea to developp a frontend like Azureus wich could embed a freenet node ? Have you some reasons to say that this is a bad idea as personnal time invertissment ? The Freenet dev community is ok to receive this sort of contribution ? nicolas - Nicolas Hernandez a-n - aleph-networks *associ?* http://www.aleph-networks.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20120314/ba819a0a/attachment.html>
[freenet-dev] Gun.IO and Freenet
but I shall defend, to the > death, your right to say it. - Voltaire > Those who would give up Liberty, to purchase temporary Safety, deserve > neither Liberty nor Safety. - Ben Franklin -- GPG: 4096R/5FBBDBCE https://github.com/infinity0 https://bitbucket.org/infinity0 https://launchpad.net/~infinity0 -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 900 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20120314/ac39f23b/attachment.pgp>
[freenet-dev] fproxy-ng first draft and a short roadmap
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 2:01 AM, Ximin Luo wrote: > On 11/03/12 23:11, Matthew Toseland wrote: > > On Sunday 11 Mar 2012 22:07:08 Nicolas Hernandez wrote: > >> Hello, > >> > Hi, > >> after lots of internal fights the choice is made. Let's go for GWT. > > > > This will cost us a large proportion of our core userbase. Alienating > your core users is a cardinal sin. > > > > This prophecy is a little unrealistic, prophecy + unrealistic is already a critic :-) I 'am' an old Java programmer, my experts are advanced java programmers, and when we are coding with GWT, we produce GWT. it looks real for me. I am not a commiter, just a coder nothing prophetic for freenet. If our efforts to share code with Freenet community does'nt work, it would not be a technical problem for us, it would just be an ideological reframing. > let's see what the end result actually > is before criticising it. > > Nicolas - can you describe your reasoning behind your decision? Why not > e.g. > Apache Wicket? I have send en email about that. I can fill the decision matrix for you if you really needs. - Minimalist ui tools - poor production capacity in iterative mode, - developpers knowledge of Wicket, - capacity of using multiple UI with and without js (Lnyx, Web 2.0, Android, ...) are unfavorable compare to GWT We likes the concepts of Wicket, but in the case of a road to 0.8, GWT looks - for us - the less worst choice. 6 monthes to produce the entire UI is not impossible. With wickets i can't produce someting usable in 6 monthes Nicolas -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20120314/3b2e94d1/attachment.html>
[freenet-dev] GSoC: is experience with security a necessity?
Hi Kieran, Firstoff: Welcome to Freenet! Am Mittwoch, 14. M?rz 2012, 01:58:31 schrieb Kieran Donegan: > I'm a second year BSc Computer Science student in University College Cork, > Ireland. Freenet's development goals really resonate with me and I'd love > to help enhance Freenet for GSoC this year. My Java skills are excellent > and I have a good knowledge of application layer and transport layer > networking protocols. That?s all you need for most tasks. Security knowledge is only needed in security sensitive parts > My security knowledge however is basic to > non-existent. Being that security is one of the main concerns when > operating a service like Freenet would I be hopeless in contributing to the > project? Definitely not! > I have a keen interest to learn however and would appreciate some > pointers on how to get started before GSoC kicks off. You could try improving some existing extension to get a feel how freenet works. Adding multi-site support to Freereader might be a good start. Or maybe first starting with adding an option to set the site title. https://github.com/freenet/plugin-Freereader-staging Or just look for a GSoC task which interests you most and see if you can find a very small starting project for that. http://new-wiki.freenetproject.org/Google_Summer_of_Code/2012 Best wishes, Arne -- A man in the streets faces a knife. Two policemen are there it once. They raise a sign: ?Illegal Scene! Noone may watch this!? The man gets robbed and stabbed and bleeds to death. The police had to hold the sign. ?Welcome to Europe, citizen. Censorship is beautiful. ( http://draketo.de/stichwort/censorship ) -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 316 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20120314/84ed1963/attachment.pgp>
[freenet-dev] website spanish translation rev 1
Great work! Have we merged this yet? Ian. On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Flavio Heredia wrote: > good morning list. > > a revision of website spanish translation is ready and a pull request done. > > many typos corrected and a better translation improved. > > for a preview please see http://merlinux.com.ar/freenetproject/ > > also in freenet. > > enjoy and kind regards. > merlin > > On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 10:10 AM, Flavio Heredia > wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Steve Dougherty > wrote: > >> Looks great! I'm in the process of deploying it. > >> > >> Is "Convesar" in "Compartir, Convesar, Navegar. Anonimamente. En la Red > >> Libre" a typo for "Conversar?" > >> > >> Thanks, > >> operhiem1 > >> > >> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Flavio Heredia > wrote: > >>> > > > > yes, it is... i'm working in a review and many of this and other > > errors will be corrected. > > thanks a lot for feedback...! > > merlin > ___ > Devl mailing list > Devl at freenetproject.org > http://freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl > -- Ian Clarke Personal blog: http://blog.locut.us/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20120314/21f4d6f1/attachment.html>
[freenet-dev] Should we switch the websites to httpS only?
On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Evan Daniel wrote: > I'm in favor of https only. The only real arguments against it are > probably server cpu load. I assume that given our traffic levels, > that's not likely to be an issue? Actually it might. While we normally hover around 2,500 visits per day, which the server should be able to handle quite easily, we do occasionally get linked from high-traffic websites which puts a lot more strain on the server. It's important that the server doesn't go down on these occasions as they are an important way to acquire new users, donors, and developers. Ian. -- Ian Clarke Founder, The Freenet Project Email: ian at freenetproject.org -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20120314/a5bcdf27/attachment.html>
[freenet-dev] GSoC: is experience with security a necessity?
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:58 PM, Kieran Donegan wrote: > I'm a second year BSc Computer Science student in University College Cork, > Ireland. Freenet's development goals really resonate with me and I'd love > to help enhance Freenet for GSoC this year. My Java skills are excellent > and I have a good knowledge of application layer and transport layer > networking protocols. My security knowledge however is basic to > non-existent. Being that security is one of the main concerns when > operating a service like Freenet would I be hopeless in contributing to the > project? I have a keen interest to learn however and would appreciate some > pointers on how to get started before GSoC kicks off. > In addition to other people's replies, you may also be interested to learn more about security. The book "Applied Cryptography" looks a bit intimidating from the outside, but it's actually a really good read - and very accessible (if kinda expensive). Ian. -- Ian Clarke Founder, The Freenet Project Email: ian at freenetproject.org -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20120314/a55c5552/attachment.html>
[freenet-dev] A general question about heavy UI
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 5:53 AM, Nicolas Hernandez < nicolas.hernandez at aleph-networks.com> wrote: > One of my expert (francis) ask me if it is a good idea to developp a > frontend like Azureus wich could embed a freenet node ? > Have you some reasons to say that this is a bad idea as personnal time > invertissment ? The Freenet dev community is ok to receive this sort of > contribution ? > Would this be instead of or in addition to replicating FProxy's current functionality? This is certainly possible, however searching in Freenet is rather because of how we must implement it internally, so it would be difficult to replicate the experience of a file-sharing app like Azureus. It is also very important that we do not do anything that might allow someone to accuse us of inducing copyright infringement, although of course there are many perfectly legitimate uses of file sharing applications. Ian. -- Ian Clarke Founder, The Freenet Project Email: ian at freenetproject.org -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20120314/f8d56dc1/attachment.html>
[freenet-dev] fproxy-ng first draft and a short roadmap
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 5:17 AM, Nicolas Hernandez < nicolas.hernandez at aleph-networks.com> wrote: > I have send en email about that. I can fill the decision matrix for you if > you really needs. > - Minimalist ui tools > - poor production capacity in iterative mode, > - developpers knowledge of Wicket, > - capacity of using multiple UI with and without js (Lnyx, Web 2.0, > Android, ...) > > are unfavorable compare to GWT > These justifications seem pragmatic. I do agree that the development cycle with Wicket can be a bit slow, at least 4 years ago when I last used it. Also, you are correct not to underestimate the importance of using a familiar tool, it can make a huge difference in development time. Ian. -- Ian Clarke Personal blog: http://blog.locut.us/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20120314/9a6ab9bf/attachment.html>
[freenet-dev] fproxy-ng first draft and a short roadmap
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Nicolas Hernandez < nicolas.hernandez at aleph-networks.com> wrote: > Here is the first draft of http://dl.free.fr/h8FSuBGNG > <http://dl.free.fr/h8FSuBGNG> > Nicolas, I can't seem to download this, I click on "T?l?charger ce fichier" but nothing happens :-/ You might want to consider using http://dropbox.com/. Ian. -- Ian Clarke Founder, The Freenet Project Email: ian at freenetproject.org -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20120314/a7c7d935/attachment.html>
[freenet-dev] GSoC: is experience with security a necessity?
Hi, I'm a second year BSc Computer Science student in University College Cork, Ireland. Freenet's development goals really resonate with me and I'd love to help enhance Freenet for GSoC this year. My Java skills are excellent and I have a good knowledge of application layer and transport layer networking protocols. My security knowledge however is basic to non-existent. Being that security is one of the main concerns when operating a service like Freenet would I be hopeless in contributing to the project? I have a keen interest to learn however and would appreciate some pointers on how to get started before GSoC kicks off. Regards, Kieran -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20120314/dab42beb/attachment.html>
[freenet-dev] fproxy-ng first draft and a short roadmap
On Tuesday 13 Mar 2012 16:50:17 Ian Clarke wrote: > On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Matthew Toseland amphibian.dyndns.org > > wrote: > > > On Sunday 11 Mar 2012 22:07:08 Nicolas Hernandez wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > after lots of internal fights the choice is made. Let's go for GWT. > > > > This will cost us a large proportion of our core userbase. Alienating your > > core users is a cardinal sin. > > > > I don't agree. We can't be held hostage by a vocal minority of existing > users, and if Nicolas is willing to do the work, I believe his opinion > should hold sway. Sorry, he has already explained that he can provide an html fallback, based on the same infrastructure. So there is no problem - at least none more serious than the gentoo issues, which are minor imho. So it looks good. -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20120314/50139315/attachment.pgp>
[freenet-dev] GSoC: is experience with security a necessity?
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 9:58 PM, Kieran Donegan wrote: > Hi, > > I'm a second year BSc Computer Science student in University College Cork, > Ireland. Freenet's development goals really resonate with me and I'd love > to help enhance Freenet for GSoC this year. My Java skills are excellent > and I have a good knowledge of application layer and transport layer > networking protocols. My security knowledge however is basic to > non-existent. Being that security is one of the main concerns when > operating a service like Freenet would I be hopeless in contributing to the > project? I have a keen interest to learn however and would appreciate some > pointers on how to get started before GSoC kicks off. > > Regards, > Kieran > > There are many areas of Freenet development that can benefit from a good Java coder, most don't require any security knowledge. For the most part, the heavy lifting (crypto, hashing, etc) is taken care of for you. Check out http://new-wiki.freenetproject.org/Google_Summer_of_Code/2012 for places to start! :) -- I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend, to the death, your right to say it. - Voltaire Those who would give up Liberty, to purchase temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. - Ben Franklin -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20120314/da5664e4/attachment.html>
Re: [freenet-dev] GSoC: is experience with security a necessity?
Hi Kieran, Firstoff: Welcome to Freenet! Am Mittwoch, 14. März 2012, 01:58:31 schrieb Kieran Donegan: I'm a second year BSc Computer Science student in University College Cork, Ireland. Freenet's development goals really resonate with me and I'd love to help enhance Freenet for GSoC this year. My Java skills are excellent and I have a good knowledge of application layer and transport layer networking protocols. That’s all you need for most tasks. Security knowledge is only needed in security sensitive parts My security knowledge however is basic to non-existent. Being that security is one of the main concerns when operating a service like Freenet would I be hopeless in contributing to the project? Definitely not! I have a keen interest to learn however and would appreciate some pointers on how to get started before GSoC kicks off. You could try improving some existing extension to get a feel how freenet works. Adding multi-site support to Freereader might be a good start. Or maybe first starting with adding an option to set the site title. https://github.com/freenet/plugin-Freereader-staging Or just look for a GSoC task which interests you most and see if you can find a very small starting project for that. http://new-wiki.freenetproject.org/Google_Summer_of_Code/2012 Best wishes, Arne -- A man in the streets faces a knife. Two policemen are there it once. They raise a sign: “Illegal Scene! Noone may watch this!” The man gets robbed and stabbed and bleeds to death. The police had to hold the sign. …Welcome to Europe, citizen. Censorship is beautiful. ( http://draketo.de/stichwort/censorship ) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org http://freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl
Re: [freenet-dev] fproxy-ng first draft and a short roadmap
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 2:01 AM, Ximin Luo infini...@gmx.com wrote: On 11/03/12 23:11, Matthew Toseland wrote: On Sunday 11 Mar 2012 22:07:08 Nicolas Hernandez wrote: Hello, Hi, after lots of internal fights the choice is made. Let's go for GWT. This will cost us a large proportion of our core userbase. Alienating your core users is a cardinal sin. This prophecy is a little unrealistic, prophecy + unrealistic is already a critic :-) I 'am' an old Java programmer, my experts are advanced java programmers, and when we are coding with GWT, we produce GWT. it looks real for me. I am not a commiter, just a coder nothing prophetic for freenet. If our efforts to share code with Freenet community does'nt work, it would not be a technical problem for us, it would just be an ideological reframing. let's see what the end result actually is before criticising it. Nicolas - can you describe your reasoning behind your decision? Why not e.g. Apache Wicket? I have send en email about that. I can fill the decision matrix for you if you really needs. - Minimalist ui tools - poor production capacity in iterative mode, - developpers knowledge of Wicket, - capacity of using multiple UI with and without js (Lnyx, Web 2.0, Android, ...) are unfavorable compare to GWT We likes the concepts of Wicket, but in the case of a road to 0.8, GWT looks - for us - the less worst choice. 6 monthes to produce the entire UI is not impossible. With wickets i can't produce someting usable in 6 monthes Nicolas ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org http://freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl
[freenet-dev] A general question about heavy UI
Hello, One of my expert (francis) ask me if it is a good idea to developp a frontend like Azureus wich could embed a freenet node ? Have you some reasons to say that this is a bad idea as personnal time invertissment ? The Freenet dev community is ok to receive this sort of contribution ? nicolas - Nicolas Hernandez a-n - aleph-networks *associé* http://www.aleph-networks.com ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org http://freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl
Re: [freenet-dev] fproxy-ng first draft and a short roadmap
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Nicolas Hernandez nicolas.hernan...@aleph-networks.com wrote: Here is the first draft of http://dl.free.fr/h8FSuBGNG http://dl.free.fr/h8FSuBGNG Nicolas, I can't seem to download this, I click on Télécharger ce fichier but nothing happens :-/ You might want to consider using http://dropbox.com/. Ian. -- Ian Clarke Founder, The Freenet Project Email: i...@freenetproject.org ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org http://freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl
Re: [freenet-dev] fproxy-ng first draft and a short roadmap
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 5:17 AM, Nicolas Hernandez nicolas.hernan...@aleph-networks.com wrote: I have send en email about that. I can fill the decision matrix for you if you really needs. - Minimalist ui tools - poor production capacity in iterative mode, - developpers knowledge of Wicket, - capacity of using multiple UI with and without js (Lnyx, Web 2.0, Android, ...) are unfavorable compare to GWT These justifications seem pragmatic. I do agree that the development cycle with Wicket can be a bit slow, at least 4 years ago when I last used it. Also, you are correct not to underestimate the importance of using a familiar tool, it can make a huge difference in development time. Ian. -- Ian Clarke Personal blog: http://blog.locut.us/ ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org http://freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl
Re: [freenet-dev] A general question about heavy UI
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 5:53 AM, Nicolas Hernandez nicolas.hernan...@aleph-networks.com wrote: One of my expert (francis) ask me if it is a good idea to developp a frontend like Azureus wich could embed a freenet node ? Have you some reasons to say that this is a bad idea as personnal time invertissment ? The Freenet dev community is ok to receive this sort of contribution ? Would this be instead of or in addition to replicating FProxy's current functionality? This is certainly possible, however searching in Freenet is rather because of how we must implement it internally, so it would be difficult to replicate the experience of a file-sharing app like Azureus. It is also very important that we do not do anything that might allow someone to accuse us of inducing copyright infringement, although of course there are many perfectly legitimate uses of file sharing applications. Ian. -- Ian Clarke Founder, The Freenet Project Email: i...@freenetproject.org ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org http://freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl
Re: [freenet-dev] GSoC: is experience with security a necessity?
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:58 PM, Kieran Donegan kdonegan...@gmail.comwrote: I'm a second year BSc Computer Science student in University College Cork, Ireland. Freenet's development goals really resonate with me and I'd love to help enhance Freenet for GSoC this year. My Java skills are excellent and I have a good knowledge of application layer and transport layer networking protocols. My security knowledge however is basic to non-existent. Being that security is one of the main concerns when operating a service like Freenet would I be hopeless in contributing to the project? I have a keen interest to learn however and would appreciate some pointers on how to get started before GSoC kicks off. In addition to other people's replies, you may also be interested to learn more about security. The book Applied Cryptography looks a bit intimidating from the outside, but it's actually a really good read - and very accessible (if kinda expensive). Ian. -- Ian Clarke Founder, The Freenet Project Email: i...@freenetproject.org ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org http://freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl
Re: [freenet-dev] Should we switch the websites to httpS only?
On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Evan Daniel eva...@gmail.com wrote: I'm in favor of https only. The only real arguments against it are probably server cpu load. I assume that given our traffic levels, that's not likely to be an issue? Actually it might. While we normally hover around 2,500 visits per day, which the server should be able to handle quite easily, we do occasionally get linked from high-traffic websites which puts a lot more strain on the server. It's important that the server doesn't go down on these occasions as they are an important way to acquire new users, donors, and developers. Ian. -- Ian Clarke Founder, The Freenet Project Email: i...@freenetproject.org ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org http://freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl
Re: [freenet-dev] website spanish translation rev 1
Great work! Have we merged this yet? Ian. On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Flavio Heredia merli...@gmail.com wrote: good morning list. a revision of website spanish translation is ready and a pull request done. many typos corrected and a better translation improved. for a preview please see http://merlinux.com.ar/freenetproject/ also in freenet. enjoy and kind regards. merlin On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 10:10 AM, Flavio Heredia merli...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Steve Dougherty st...@asksteved.com wrote: Looks great! I'm in the process of deploying it. Is Convesar in Compartir, Convesar, Navegar. Anonimamente. En la Red Libre a typo for Conversar? Thanks, operhiem1 On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Flavio Heredia merli...@gmail.com wrote: yes, it is... i'm working in a review and many of this and other errors will be corrected. thanks a lot for feedback...! merlin ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org http://freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl -- Ian Clarke Personal blog: http://blog.locut.us/ ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org http://freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl
Re: [freenet-dev] A general question about heavy UI
- Nicolas Hernandez a-n - aleph-networks *associé* http://www.aleph-networks.com On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Ian Clarke i...@freenetproject.org wrote: On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 5:53 AM, Nicolas Hernandez nicolas.hernan...@aleph-networks.com wrote: One of my expert (francis) ask me if it is a good idea to developp a frontend like Azureus wich could embed a freenet node ? Have you some reasons to say that this is a bad idea as personnal time invertissment ? The Freenet dev community is ok to receive this sort of contribution ? Would this be instead of or in addition to replicating FProxy's current functionality? in addition in my opinion This is certainly possible, however searching in Freenet is rather because of how we must implement it internally, so it would be difficult to replicate the experience of a file-sharing app like Azureus. agree It is also very important that we do not do anything that might allow someone to accuse us of inducing copyright infringement, although of course there are many perfectly legitimate uses of file sharing applications. good alert ... ! ... we have that in our mind now. Ian. -- Ian Clarke Founder, The Freenet Project Email: i...@freenetproject.org ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org http://freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org http://freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl
Re: [freenet-dev] fproxy-ng first draft and a short roadmap
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/67035152/fproxy-ng.png It should be ok - Nicolas Hernandez a-n - aleph-networks *associé* http://www.aleph-networks.com On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Ian Clarke i...@freenetproject.org wrote: On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Nicolas Hernandez nicolas.hernan...@aleph-networks.com wrote: Here is the first draft of http://dl.free.fr/h8FSuBGNG http://dl.free.fr/h8FSuBGNG Nicolas, I can't seem to download this, I click on Télécharger ce fichier but nothing happens :-/ You might want to consider using http://dropbox.com/. Ian. -- Ian Clarke Founder, The Freenet Project Email: i...@freenetproject.org ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org http://freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org http://freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl
Re: [freenet-dev] Gun.IO and Freenet
Library has some architectural problems. I don't think it's a great use of time to try to improve the existing code directly. - We didn't create a proper specification for how the data structure should work over freenet - I made a mistake in trying to shoe-horn a stub remote data structure into the Java collections framework. - To support loading from remote, I wrote my own event handling framework, which was not a very clean design as I wasn't familiar with java.util.concurrent at the time. - I did write an asynchronous merge algorithm (SkelBTreeMap.update) which currently does the majority of the write work, but it's quite complex and doesn't integrate well with the rest of the code. Toad also made some adjustments on top of it for performance, which makes understanding it even more complex as it distracts from the pure form of the algorithm. What is needed to get Library working well is to: 1. specify the data structure, and associated algorithms, properly. I have notes, I can help with this 2. use an event handling framework for Java (something similar to Twisted for python, but also has the ability to use threads if necessary) 3. use this to implement the algorithm in a concise way freenet itself should use something like this as well - atm it uses its own custom solution which is a bit messy and not well-separated from the rest of the code. It also uses many of its own crypto and concurrent utilities, which bloats the code for no reason. In other words, both Library and freenet (probably freenet first) needs some major refactoring work, before major features can progress. Most of this requires that freenet-ext be available as separate modules, which needs an overhaul of the update-over-freenet system as that currently assumse freenet-ext comes in a single JAR. Oh, and another thing, the config framework is horrible and we really should use an existing external solution. This would make the freenet installation portable to different systems (e.g. to conform to FHS), rather than being constrained to the current rigid set of directories. I did make this part customisable but it's still untidy and has some fiddly non-fatal problems. Dependency diagram: [ overhaul freenet update system ] |- [ use external crypto library ] |- [ use external config management library ] ||- [ make installation more portable / robust ] |- [ use external event-handling library (both async and concurrent) ] ||- [ update the Library plugin as described ] This is the ideal non-hacky correct way of doing things, but I gather we don't have that much development time on the whole. X On 14/03/12 05:06, Juiceman wrote: Hi, I think you wrote or worked on the Library plugin for Freenet? I posted a job at http://gun.io/open/45/update-freenet-plugin-library-to-snakeyaml-110 for someone to update the code, figured you might be interested? The bounty is only $25 USD right now, I wish I could afford more The Seeker took a stab at it but couldn't get it to work. This is what he said to me on Sone: The Seeker @Juiceman I tried doing this, but just making it compile and run isn't nearly enough :-/ When I try to do a search, I get this 3-layer stacktrace... trying to follow wtf is going on makes my brain hurt. I give up. plugins.Library.util.exec.TaskAbortException: Could not construct index from data -- plugins.Library.index.ProtoIndexSerialiser.pull(ProtoIndexSerialiser.java:123) -- plugins.Library.Library.getIndex(Library.java:677) -- plugins.Library.Library.getIndex(Library.java:640) -- plugins.Library.Library.getIndex(Library.java:616) -- plugins.Library.search.Search.splitQuery(Search.java:245) -- plugins.Library.search.Search.startSearch(Search.java:111) -- plugins.Library.search.Search.splitQuery(Search.java:347) -- plugins.Library.search.Search.startSearch(Search.java:111) -- plugins.Library.search.Search.startSearch(Search.java:117) -- plugins.Library.ui.MainPage.processPostRequest(MainPage.java:192) -- plugins.Library.ui.MainPageToadlet.handleMethodPOST(MainPageToadlet.java:96) -- sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method) -- sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39) -- sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25) -- java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:597) -- freenet.clients.http.ToadletContextImpl.handle(ToadletContextImpl.java:564) -- freenet.clients.http.SimpleToadletServer$SocketHandler.run(SimpleToadletServer.java:1102) -- freenet.support.PooledExecutor$MyThread.realRun(PooledExecutor.java:233) -- freenet.support.io.NativeThread.run(NativeThread.java:130) plugins.Library.io.DataFormatException: TreeMapTranslator: reverse translation failed. Try supplying a non-null key-translator. -- plugins.Library.util.SkeletonTreeMap$TreeMapTranslator.rev(SkeletonTreeMap.java:330) --
Re: [freenet-dev] Should we switch the websites to httpS only?
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 06:19:07AM -0500, Ian Clarke wrote: On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Evan Daniel eva...@gmail.com wrote: I'm in favor of https only. The only real arguments against it are probably server cpu load. I assume that given our traffic levels, that's not likely to be an issue? Actually it might. While we normally hover around 2,500 visits per day, which the server should be able to handle quite easily, we do occasionally get linked from high-traffic websites which puts a lot more strain on the server. It's important that the server doesn't go down on these occasions as they are an important way to acquire new users, donors, and developers. Ian. That might have been a concern a decade ago, it's not anymore... back then we had a dynamic website, nowadays everything is static and (much) faster. Talking about SSL: some of the SSL ciphers are quite fast... and even accelerated in hardware! http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/wasinfo/v6r0/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.ibm.websphere.express.doc%2Finfo%2Fexp%2Fae%2Frprf_ssl.html http://zombe.es/post/4078724716/openssl-cipher-selection I've tweaked what we use on osprey already: RC4-SHA as a first choice, AES-128-SHA the fallback... and the other ciphers then. When we will renew the SSL cert, I will ensure that we use a smaller keysize too; 4096 bits RSA is too big, even by my paranoid standards. We can't do ECC just yet (the openssl version we use doesn't support it)... and the VM we rent doesn't export AESNI's CPU flags. Florent ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org http://freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl
Re: [freenet-dev] website spanish translation rev 1
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It has been merged into staging, and I hope it'll be deployed this weekend along with the rest of the server work planned. - -operhiem1 On 03/14/2012 07:20 AM, Ian Clarke wrote: Great work! Have we merged this yet? Ian. On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Flavio Heredia merli...@gmail.com wrote: good morning list. a revision of website spanish translation is ready and a pull request done. many typos corrected and a better translation improved. for a preview please see http://merlinux.com.ar/freenetproject/ also in freenet. enjoy and kind regards. merlin On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 10:10 AM, Flavio Heredia merli...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Steve Dougherty st...@asksteved.com wrote: Looks great! I'm in the process of deploying it. Is Convesar in Compartir, Convesar, Navegar. Anonimamente. En la Red Libre a typo for Conversar? Thanks, operhiem1 On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Flavio Heredia merli...@gmail.com wrote: yes, it is... i'm working in a review and many of this and other errors will be corrected. thanks a lot for feedback...! merlin ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org http://freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org http://freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJPYR8sAAoJECLJP19KqmFuiLIP/15P6q1vQTRDMXINnp1EWvvU ay+3n7hk0QxPXHc0UMzX3hjKj2vQmsbAbPqCRFLEexP42kBYywc9bgk0G9YArXhv ErKvthw/7f5Jq2NiTeC+8xsXIjaERtpQFfJe5h1slVNLvzoBvUEccTIO7XC0ycJK NNGDIojXFGMTqqHzcERGZK+O0Ld9l1jXGo7DN7bGujz3J5wQv0tR959V0iMIEAzP oLt4pOmv5C84+V0VySTtjyEyKYI5jPiQKt9NUOGvj72n8ZeWZLC9EmN76KR2gkKi EsOjvVciUJSTI6g//vQxKaQCawcKoDJvIQGZjKnZL5k79B2dokvdc5YkZyKbz5Us c0V+KO5wEyUx5m4s9aX28oOWaFNN5P8BkWPP+RQIZV5OY8XvS5HvmbG8CBK5/HwU M56Gn/KfCAP6ZGWiO1aZ010EMnAR04RIREMrzi+2WV0VI39N+BPy2igCEHj4RE3d asVnForOux1qczTVYLFxE2kZClvM00UE3iHKQEiU/ICQJo+txGHpbz+qjy2/i3BT kfDiAYpiW163jRXKNytvYCEfAb6AF1BrGTf+IKjxVr/sYCPHkTj4QSDnazgwcSd1 3o7xOEkRxDoQ8CCiUq5y7eLt+SF3fa75vmApUHzb/FBsu4f//QTb2Z9Ss9E07+9f 4XCla/MMHOeCUeTVpWxc =97ye -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org http://freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl
Re: [freenet-dev] GSoC: is experience with security a necessity?
Cheers for the tips. I've had a look at the project suggestions and Tahrir caught my eye, it sounds really awesome. I will probably get a chance to give it a go at the weekend (college has me busy atm) and will hopefully make a start on implementing TCP as a transport layer. I will probably need some help with this. Is this the correct mailing list to use for specific Tahrir problems? Regards, Kieran ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org http://freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl
