Re: [freenet-dev] Please help us test the new wininstaller (Vista users especially welcome)

2009-05-17 Thread Zero3
gh...@hushmail.com skrev:
> Using the current wininstaller (FreenetInstaller-1210), I installed
> into Windows 7 x64 Build 7100. Installed java as prompted (x32).
> Install went very well. The uninstaller leaves user 'Freenet' and I
> updated my open ticket(bug) with these results.

Your bug at https://bugs.freenetproject.org/view.php?id=3113 is a 
duplicate of https://bugs.freenetproject.org/view.php?id=3080 ;).

But you are correct. The issue has been discussed a couple of times 
already. The problem is that there is no easy/proper way of deleting the 
user folder. For some reason, Windows does not provide an easy way of 
doing this. Googling the issue will reveal that many people have 
stumbled upon this problem before us. At the moment, we include a 
third-party tool that correctly deletes the profile folder on Windows XP 
and earlier. We haven't yet found one that works for Vista as well.

 > Freenet found that I had Chrome installed and used it, even though
 > it was not my default browser.Bug/Feature?

That is actually a feature :). The launcher has a prioritized list of 
browsers it will look for, and use if found. Chrome is a lot more secure 
than IE (for example) and supports incognito mode, hence it is higher 
prioritized.

Maybe we should inform the user of this in someway. Hmm...

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Re: [freenet-dev] Please help us test the new wininstaller (Vista users especially welcome)

2009-05-16 Thread ghoul
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Using the current wininstaller (FreenetInstaller-1210), I installed
into Windows 7 x64 Build 7100. Installed java as prompted (x32).
Install went very well. The uninstaller leaves user 'Freenet' and I
updated my open ticket(bug) with these results.

Freenet found that I had Chrome installed and used it, even though
it was not my default browser.Bug/Feature?

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Re: [freenet-dev] Please help us test the new wininstaller (Vista users especially welcome)

2009-05-15 Thread Zero3
gh...@hushmail.com skrev:
> One other thing, When the uninstaller runs, it does not remove the
> freenet user it created. I had multiple users named freenet,
> freenet.001, freenet.002 etc.

Which installer? The new (single GUI screen) or old (several pages) one? 
  The new one should definitely remove the user in the uninstaller.

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Re: [freenet-dev] Please help us test the new wininstaller (Vista users especially welcome)

2009-05-14 Thread ghoul
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On Tue, 12 May 2009 13:45:49 -0600 Zero3 
wrote:

>> 2nd Install, with java pre-installed (32/64 bit)
>>
>> 1. Freenet installer as Administrator
>> 2. Java detected, taking default install options
>
>Did the installer correctly detect your 64-bit Java installation?
>I thought it didn't do that last time?

No, it detected the 32 bit only.

>> 6. Up and running. One small oddity, I accessed the same index
>page
>> as above, but this time I had to go to it three times to get the
>> latest, most current version. Will this cause confusion with new
>> users that they sometimes can get old content from the main
>page?
>Was it a very old version, or the second latest? Your node
probably
>found the second latest version first, and transparently replaced
>it with the latest one once it stumbled upon it. This is quite
>normal. It shouldn't happen for long though, as all nodes should
>update their copies as soon as they "hear about" the new one.

What I thought odd was that it actually updated to a newer version
twice. So rather than jump from an old edition to the latest, it
hit an intermediate one on the way.

>> 7. Not installer related, but upon uninstalling w/ option to
>do
>> survey, the survey errored out with: "Something bad happened.
>Don't
>> worry, though. The Spreadsheets Team has been notified and we'll
>> get right on it." This was from IE as it is still set as the
>> default browser. (but not for long)
>
>Sounds like an error from Google (who hosts the survey
>spreadsheet).
>Should fix itself once they figure out what's wrong.
>
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One other thing, When the uninstaller runs, it does not remove the
freenet user it created. I had multiple users named freenet,
freenet.001, freenet.002 etc.

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Re: [freenet-dev] Please help us test the new wininstaller (Vista users especially welcome)

2009-05-12 Thread Zero3
gh...@hushmail.com skrev:
> 4. Only sees IE as I use  portable FF.

Makes sense. I doubt the portable FF adds any kind of indication that it 
is available? (Registry key or the like, which we could look for in the 
browser search done in the launcher)

> 
> 2nd Install, with java pre-installed (32/64 bit)
> 
> 1. Freenet installer as Administrator
> 2. Java detected, taking default install options

Did the installer correctly detect your 64-bit Java installation? I 
thought it didn't do that last time?

> 6. Up and running. One small oddity, I accessed the same index page
> as above, but this time I had to go to it three times to get the
> latest, most current version. Will this cause confusion with new
> users that they sometimes can get old content from the main page?

Was it a very old version, or the second latest? Your node probably 
found the second latest version first, and transparently replaced it 
with the latest one once it stumbled upon it. This is quite normal. It 
shouldn't happen for long though, as all nodes should update their 
copies as soon as they "hear about" the new one.

> 7. Not installer related, but upon uninstalling w/ option to do
> survey, the survey errored out with: "Something bad happened. Don't
> worry, though. The Spreadsheets Team has been notified and we'll
> get right on it." This was from IE as it is still set as the
> default browser. (but not for long)

Sounds like an error from Google (who hosts the survey spreadsheet). 
Should fix itself once they figure out what's wrong.

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Re: [freenet-dev] Please help us test the new wininstaller (Vista users especially welcome)

2009-05-12 Thread ghoul
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On Mon, 11 May 2009 17:07:14 -0600 Matthew Toseland
 wrote:
>We have removed the memory limit option in git ...

Ignoring the memory issue/non-issue, here is my install testing
today:

Installed version of Java:
java version "1.6.0_13"
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_13-b03)
Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 11.3-b02, mixed mode)

1. Freenet installer as Administrator
2. Asks for Java 1.5 or greater, installing.
3. Taking default install options
4. Only sees IE as I use  portable FF.
5. Switch to FF after configuration.
6. Did not see is ask for a node name.(probably due to using wizard
vs manual install)
7. Install took the BW changes, but memory adjustments ignored.(Was
suggested possible access rights issue to wrapper.conf)
8. Up and running:

Peer statistics

* Connected: 3
* Busy: 2
* Never connected: 5
* Seed nodes: 4
Took less than 2 minutes to bring up one of the indexes (The
Ultimate Freenet Index).

Error in wrapper: (known non-issue I believe)
STATUS | wrapper  | 2009/05/12   | Freenet background service
installed.
STATUS | wrapper  | 2009/05/12   | --> Wrapper Started as Service
STATUS | wrapper  | 2009/05/12   | Java Service Wrapper Community
Edition 3.3.3
STATUS | wrapper  | 2009/05/12   |   Copyright (C) 1999-2009 Tanuki
Software, Ltd.  All Rights Reserved.
STATUS | wrapper  | 2009/05/12   |
http://wrapper.tanukisoftware.org
STATUS | wrapper  | 2009/05/12   |
STATUS | wrapper  | 2009/05/12   | Launching a JVM...
INFO   | jvm 1| 2009/05/12   | WrapperManager: Initializing...
INFO   | jvm 1| 2009/05/12   | WrapperManager: WARNING - The
Wrapper jar file currently in use is version "3.3.1"
INFO   | jvm 1| 2009/05/12   | WrapperManager:   while
the version of the Wrapper which launched this JVM is
INFO   | jvm 1| 2009/05/12   | WrapperManager:
"3.3.3".
INFO   | jvm 1| 2009/05/12   | WrapperManager:   The
Wrapper may appear to work correctly but some features may
INFO   | jvm 1| 2009/05/12   | WrapperManager:   not
function correctly.  This configuration has not been tested
INFO   | jvm 1| 2009/05/12   | WrapperManager:   and is
not supported.


9.Install was quick easy and painless. Shut node down via browser,
then started it via the destop shortcut. All is well.
Input Rate: 101 KiB/sec (of 256 KiB)
Output Rate: 6.39 KiB/sec (of 64.0 KiB)
Total Input: 1.56 MiB (16.7 KiB/sec)
Total Output: 739 KiB (7.70 KiB/sec)
Payload Output: 383 KiB (3.98 KiB/sec)(51%)

10. Uninstalled, shortcut still on destop. Nope, F5(refresh) and
it's gone.

2nd Install, with java pre-installed (32/64 bit)

1. Freenet installer as Administrator
2. Java detected, taking default install options
3. Cut/paste url into FF to continue at this point.
4. Receive warning about using same brower for Internet/Freenet.
5. Same issues as 6/7 above.
6. Up and running. One small oddity, I accessed the same index page
as above, but this time I had to go to it three times to get the
latest, most current version. Will this cause confusion with new
users that they sometimes can get old content from the main page?
7. Not installer related, but upon uninstalling w/ option to do
survey, the survey errored out with: "Something bad happened. Don't
worry, though. The Spreadsheets Team has been notified and we'll
get right on it." This was from IE as it is still set as the
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Re: [freenet-dev] Please help us test the new wininstaller (Vista users especially welcome)

2009-05-11 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Friday 08 May 2009 19:15:46 gh...@hushmail.com wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 08 May 2009 05:51:58 -0600 Zero3 
> wrote:
> >Hey
> >
> >You seem to have tested the *old* Windows installer, which
> >unfortunately
> >doesn't work on Vista. If you can, please test the new one from
> >the link
> >from toad's mail :).
> >
> >- Zero3
> 
> 
> The good:
> Under Vista64 the installer does produce a functioning node.

Great!
> 
> The bad:
> Wrapper.conf seems to not get an update from wizard mode. Maximum
> memory was still default of 192 and not the 512 I had set. If I do
> a new install and configure it manually rather than using the
> wizard, after a node reboot I can see the changes. A reboot after
> the wizard install does not.

Permissions problem, surely?
> 
> The unfortunate:
> The installer does not see existing 64 bit java installs under the
> Vista OS. The option to install java only installs the 32 bit java.
> This works and allows the install to complete but now you have both
> 32/64 bit jre's.

:|

Better than nothing.
> 
> The messy workaround:
> After the node is installed and working, shut it down.
> Uninstall the 32 bit java.
> Start-run-cmd, then cd to %windir%\syswow64.
> There create three symbolic links to the 64 bit java in
> %windir%\system32.
> mklink java.exe ..\system32\java.exe
> mklink javaw.exe ..\system32\javaw.exe
> mklinik javaws.exe ..\system32\javaws.exe
> Restart the node.
> (I believe these links will break if java is ever updated and need
> to be recreated manually at that point in time.)

Nice, a desktop version of Windows with support for symlinks.
> 
> 
> Thoughts:
> The installer cannot be spoofed by the symbolic links alone, only
> after a completed install is done can the freenet software be ran
> under a 64 bit java.
> 
> Could the installer be revised to detect a 64 bit OS? Also
> adjusting for 64 bit java detection and it's possible download
> accordingly?
> 
> The options to make changes to the wrapper don't happen when using
> the wizard. Can this be fixed or should it be removed and then
> after the node is up remind the user to adjust memory usage if
> he/she wants and then to reboot the node.

We have removed the memory limit option in git ...


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Re: [freenet-dev] Please help us test the new wininstaller (Vista users especially welcome)

2009-05-11 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Sunday 10 May 2009 00:54:48 Luke771 wrote:
> Zero3 wrote:
> > gh...@hushmail.com skrev:
> >   
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> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, 08 May 2009 05:51:58 -0600 Zero3 
> >> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> Hey
> >>>
> >>> You seem to have tested the *old* Windows installer, which
> >>> unfortunately
> >>> doesn't work on Vista. If you can, please test the new one from
> >>> the link
> >>>   
> >> >from toad's mail :).
> >> 
> >>> - Zero3
> >>>   
> >> The good:
> >> Under Vista64 the installer does produce a functioning node.
> >> 
> >
> > Great! What about the problems you mentioned in your previous mail? (I 
> > just replied to those in another message)
> >
> >   
> >> The bad:
> >> Wrapper.conf seems to not get an update from wizard mode. Maximum
> >> memory was still default of 192 and not the 512 I had set. If I do
> >> a new install and configure it manually rather than using the
> >> wizard, after a node reboot I can see the changes. A reboot after
> >> the wizard install does not.
> >> 
> >
> > We already have a couple of bugs reported in that area. You probably hit 
> > one of them:
> > https://bugs.freenetproject.org/view.php?id=2500
> > https://bugs.freenetproject.org/view.php?id=2573
> >
> >   
> >> The unfortunate:
> >> The installer does not see existing 64 bit java installs under the
> >> Vista OS. The option to install java only installs the 32 bit java.
> >> This works and allows the install to complete but now you have both
> >> 32/64 bit jre's.
> >> 
> >
> > OK - see previous mail.
> >
> >
> >   
> >> The messy workaround:
> >> After the node is installed and working, shut it down.
> >> Uninstall the 32 bit java.
> >> Start-run-cmd, then cd to %windir%\syswow64.
> >> There create three symbolic links to the 64 bit java in
> >> %windir%\system32.
> >> mklink java.exe ..\system32\java.exe
> >> mklink javaw.exe ..\system32\javaw.exe
> >> mklinik javaws.exe ..\system32\javaws.exe
> >> Restart the node.
> >> (I believe these links will break if java is ever updated and need
> >> to be recreated manually at that point in time.)
> >>
> >>
> >> Thoughts:
> >> The installer cannot be spoofed by the symbolic links alone, only
> >> after a completed install is done can the freenet software be ran
> >> under a 64 bit java.
> >>
> >> Could the installer be revised to detect a 64 bit OS? Also
> >> adjusting for 64 bit java detection and it's possible download
> >> accordingly?
> >>
> >> The options to make changes to the wrapper don't happen when using
> >> the wizard. Can this be fixed or should it be removed and then
> >> after the node is up remind the user to adjust memory usage if
> >> he/she wants and then to reboot the node.
> >> 
> >
> > As previously mentioned: Does anyone know how to handle this 32-bit vs. 
> > 64-bit stuff? What to do? (I have no idea, and nothing to test 64-bit 
> > stuff on).
> >   
> OK, I _know_ I'm gonna say something stupid but I have to, so here it goes:
> 
> Joe Cynical suggests: the average user probably wouldnt be bothered by 
> having both a 32-bit and a 64-bit JRE's, especially if told that he's 
> supposed to.
> Make "simple install" just install JRE automatically and "expert mode" 
> let the user manually give the path to his JRE.

IMHO it should work in any case. But it does, so there is no great urgency to 
fix it.


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Re: [freenet-dev] Please help us test the new wininstaller (Vista users especially welcome)

2009-05-11 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Friday 08 May 2009 15:12:33 gh...@hushmail.com wrote:
> Both installers were from toad's links yesterday. One earlier in
> the day and the second around four hours later (with a slightly
> different file size). Here is the MD5 generated on both files.
> a8f88c158cc3927cdc786b67150b86f9 and
> 4fb8e9ff969d7c2b0575aa370874cf89.
> 
> I'm more than happy to give it another go or two or three. Once
> I've had a bit more coffee...

New version, should include update.cmd:
8854028 2009-05-11 23:54 FreenetInstaller-1209.exe
md5: 23e1b4ef70b1bd35ba2fc32fbc54637f
sha256: 00461dd83d9b0370d9f59fabe00168966ef5e6c5ad2d6b588a4d5f3036b304aa


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Re: [freenet-dev] Please help us test the new wininstaller (Vista users especially welcome)

2009-05-10 Thread ghoul
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>Joe Cynical suggests: the average user probably wouldnt be
>bothered by
>having both a 32-bit and a 64-bit JRE's, especially if told that
>he's
>supposed to.
>Make "simple install" just install JRE automatically and "expert
>mode"
>let the user manually give the path to his JRE.
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You have got a point. I may have been a bit more sensitive to this
as this was my first jump into 64 bit Vista. I had my mind centered
around '64 bit or nothing'. I've now had my old node migrated and
all is running fine. As an aside, I was looking at 64 bit compiles
of Firefox 3.0.10 (Minefield?) but when I read that all my current
addons would not be compatible I let that go as well.
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Re: [freenet-dev] Please help us test the new wininstaller (Vista users especially welcome)

2009-05-09 Thread Luke771
Zero3 wrote:
> gh...@hushmail.com skrev:
>   
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>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 08 May 2009 05:51:58 -0600 Zero3 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey
>>>
>>> You seem to have tested the *old* Windows installer, which
>>> unfortunately
>>> doesn't work on Vista. If you can, please test the new one from
>>> the link
>>>   
>> >from toad's mail :).
>> 
>>> - Zero3
>>>   
>> The good:
>> Under Vista64 the installer does produce a functioning node.
>> 
>
> Great! What about the problems you mentioned in your previous mail? (I 
> just replied to those in another message)
>
>   
>> The bad:
>> Wrapper.conf seems to not get an update from wizard mode. Maximum
>> memory was still default of 192 and not the 512 I had set. If I do
>> a new install and configure it manually rather than using the
>> wizard, after a node reboot I can see the changes. A reboot after
>> the wizard install does not.
>> 
>
> We already have a couple of bugs reported in that area. You probably hit 
> one of them:
> https://bugs.freenetproject.org/view.php?id=2500
> https://bugs.freenetproject.org/view.php?id=2573
>
>   
>> The unfortunate:
>> The installer does not see existing 64 bit java installs under the
>> Vista OS. The option to install java only installs the 32 bit java.
>> This works and allows the install to complete but now you have both
>> 32/64 bit jre's.
>> 
>
> OK - see previous mail.
>
>
>   
>> The messy workaround:
>> After the node is installed and working, shut it down.
>> Uninstall the 32 bit java.
>> Start-run-cmd, then cd to %windir%\syswow64.
>> There create three symbolic links to the 64 bit java in
>> %windir%\system32.
>> mklink java.exe ..\system32\java.exe
>> mklink javaw.exe ..\system32\javaw.exe
>> mklinik javaws.exe ..\system32\javaws.exe
>> Restart the node.
>> (I believe these links will break if java is ever updated and need
>> to be recreated manually at that point in time.)
>>
>>
>> Thoughts:
>> The installer cannot be spoofed by the symbolic links alone, only
>> after a completed install is done can the freenet software be ran
>> under a 64 bit java.
>>
>> Could the installer be revised to detect a 64 bit OS? Also
>> adjusting for 64 bit java detection and it's possible download
>> accordingly?
>>
>> The options to make changes to the wrapper don't happen when using
>> the wizard. Can this be fixed or should it be removed and then
>> after the node is up remind the user to adjust memory usage if
>> he/she wants and then to reboot the node.
>> 
>
> As previously mentioned: Does anyone know how to handle this 32-bit vs. 
> 64-bit stuff? What to do? (I have no idea, and nothing to test 64-bit 
> stuff on).
>
> - Zero3
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OK, I _know_ I'm gonna say something stupid but I have to, so here it goes:

Joe Cynical suggests: the average user probably wouldnt be bothered by 
having both a 32-bit and a 64-bit JRE's, especially if told that he's 
supposed to.
Make "simple install" just install JRE automatically and "expert mode" 
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Re: [freenet-dev] Please help us test the new wininstaller (Vista users especially welcome)

2009-05-08 Thread Zero3
gh...@hushmail.com skrev:
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>> As previously mentioned: Does anyone know how to handle this 32-
>> bit vs.
>> 64-bit stuff? What to do? (I have no idea, and nothing to test 64-
>> bit
>> stuff on).
>>
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> The wrapper did not like my soft links. Seems that the community
> version only supports 32 bit. I'm still playing, but it looks like
> I'd have to keep the 32 bit java for freenet if I want to use the
> wrapper. (Unless I want to buy my own copy for $90 and up per node.)

That is correct, unfortunately.

Question is: Can we combine 64-bit Java with 32-bit wrapper and Freenet?

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Re: [freenet-dev] Please help us test the new wininstaller (Vista users especially welcome)

2009-05-08 Thread ghoul
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>As previously mentioned: Does anyone know how to handle this 32-
>bit vs.
>64-bit stuff? What to do? (I have no idea, and nothing to test 64-
>bit
>stuff on).
>
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The wrapper did not like my soft links. Seems that the community
version only supports 32 bit. I'm still playing, but it looks like
I'd have to keep the 32 bit java for freenet if I want to use the
wrapper. (Unless I want to buy my own copy for $90 and up per node.)

And in hindsight, the rest of the users on the box don't seem to
see the 32 bit java. Only freenet. That might just be a good thing.





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Re: [freenet-dev] Please help us test the new wininstaller (Vista users especially welcome)

2009-05-08 Thread Zero3
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> 
> 
> On Fri, 08 May 2009 05:51:58 -0600 Zero3 
> wrote:
>> Hey
>>
>> You seem to have tested the *old* Windows installer, which
>> unfortunately
>> doesn't work on Vista. If you can, please test the new one from
>> the link
>>from toad's mail :).
>> - Zero3
> 
> 
> The good:
> Under Vista64 the installer does produce a functioning node.

Great! What about the problems you mentioned in your previous mail? (I 
just replied to those in another message)

>
> The bad:
> Wrapper.conf seems to not get an update from wizard mode. Maximum
> memory was still default of 192 and not the 512 I had set. If I do
> a new install and configure it manually rather than using the
> wizard, after a node reboot I can see the changes. A reboot after
> the wizard install does not.

We already have a couple of bugs reported in that area. You probably hit 
one of them:
https://bugs.freenetproject.org/view.php?id=2500
https://bugs.freenetproject.org/view.php?id=2573

> 
> The unfortunate:
> The installer does not see existing 64 bit java installs under the
> Vista OS. The option to install java only installs the 32 bit java.
> This works and allows the install to complete but now you have both
> 32/64 bit jre's.

OK - see previous mail.


> The messy workaround:
> After the node is installed and working, shut it down.
> Uninstall the 32 bit java.
> Start-run-cmd, then cd to %windir%\syswow64.
> There create three symbolic links to the 64 bit java in
> %windir%\system32.
> mklink java.exe ..\system32\java.exe
> mklink javaw.exe ..\system32\javaw.exe
> mklinik javaws.exe ..\system32\javaws.exe
> Restart the node.
> (I believe these links will break if java is ever updated and need
> to be recreated manually at that point in time.)
> 
> 
> Thoughts:
> The installer cannot be spoofed by the symbolic links alone, only
> after a completed install is done can the freenet software be ran
> under a 64 bit java.
> 
> Could the installer be revised to detect a 64 bit OS? Also
> adjusting for 64 bit java detection and it's possible download
> accordingly?
> 
> The options to make changes to the wrapper don't happen when using
> the wizard. Can this be fixed or should it be removed and then
> after the node is up remind the user to adjust memory usage if
> he/she wants and then to reboot the node.

As previously mentioned: Does anyone know how to handle this 32-bit vs. 
64-bit stuff? What to do? (I have no idea, and nothing to test 64-bit 
stuff on).

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Re: [freenet-dev] Please help us test the new wininstaller (Vista users especially welcome)

2009-05-08 Thread Zero3
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> Both installers were from toad's links yesterday. One earlier in
> the day and the second around four hours later (with a slightly
> different file size). Here is the MD5 generated on both files.
> a8f88c158cc3927cdc786b67150b86f9 and
> 4fb8e9ff969d7c2b0575aa370874cf89.
> 
> I'm more than happy to give it another go or two or three. Once
> I've had a bit more coffee...
> 
> Thanks

Ahh, you posted logs from the old and new installer. I only noticed the 
ones from the old installer when i read your message.

Old installer: The Java installer with all the different pages.
New installer: Only a single page (should look like this: 
http://privat.zero3.dk/FreenetInstaller_MainGUI.png (old screenshot, but 
you get the idea)).

You should only test the *new* one. I'll try commenting on your results 
for the new installer:

"2. Installer does not see java as installed."

Did you already have Java installed at this point? If so, which version? 
  And what is the values of the registry keys "CurrentVersion" and 
"RuntimeLib" under "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\JavaSoft\Java Runtime 
Environment"?

"5. Does not like my existing node, so much for seeing if I could
  upgrading in place.  :) "

As the new installer is fundamentally different from the old one, it 
won't be possible to upgrade your installation via the installer. Simply 
keeping identity/settings/datastore/etc. have been discussed, but so far 
postponed for a later version (a quite complicated process compared to 
how few users that will actually use it). But in the ideal world, it 
would indeed be possible :).

"7. Fails to start system service as above, again."

Which kind of error do you get?

"Spoke too soon, the java installed via the Freenet installer
installs 32 bit java in %windir%\syswow64 as well as "Program
Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin"."

That is true. The installer will always install the 32-bit version if 
Java is not found. I don't actually know if we ought to install the 
32-bit version or 64-bit version? The wrapper (and Freenet?) is 32-bit, 
but maybe the 64-bit version of Java can run it anyway? Or? Anyone?

"Better way would be for the installer to see the existing 64 bit
java me thinks."

Exactly! If 64-bit Java runs Freenet, I just need to figure out how to 
detect the 64-bit version (see my questions about registry keys above).

Thanks for your help so far btw.!

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Re: [freenet-dev] Please help us test the new wininstaller (Vista users especially welcome)

2009-05-08 Thread ghoul
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On Fri, 08 May 2009 05:51:58 -0600 Zero3 
wrote:
>Hey
>
>You seem to have tested the *old* Windows installer, which
>unfortunately
>doesn't work on Vista. If you can, please test the new one from
>the link
>from toad's mail :).
>
>- Zero3


The good:
Under Vista64 the installer does produce a functioning node.

The bad:
Wrapper.conf seems to not get an update from wizard mode. Maximum
memory was still default of 192 and not the 512 I had set. If I do
a new install and configure it manually rather than using the
wizard, after a node reboot I can see the changes. A reboot after
the wizard install does not.

The unfortunate:
The installer does not see existing 64 bit java installs under the
Vista OS. The option to install java only installs the 32 bit java.
This works and allows the install to complete but now you have both
32/64 bit jre's.

The messy workaround:
After the node is installed and working, shut it down.
Uninstall the 32 bit java.
Start-run-cmd, then cd to %windir%\syswow64.
There create three symbolic links to the 64 bit java in
%windir%\system32.
mklink java.exe ..\system32\java.exe
mklink javaw.exe ..\system32\javaw.exe
mklinik javaws.exe ..\system32\javaws.exe
Restart the node.
(I believe these links will break if java is ever updated and need
to be recreated manually at that point in time.)


Thoughts:
The installer cannot be spoofed by the symbolic links alone, only
after a completed install is done can the freenet software be ran
under a 64 bit java.

Could the installer be revised to detect a 64 bit OS? Also
adjusting for 64 bit java detection and it's possible download
accordingly?

The options to make changes to the wrapper don't happen when using
the wizard. Can this be fixed or should it be removed and then
after the node is up remind the user to adjust memory usage if
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Re: [freenet-dev] Please help us test the new wininstaller (Vista users especially welcome)

2009-05-08 Thread ghoul
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Both installers were from toad's links yesterday. One earlier in
the day and the second around four hours later (with a slightly
different file size). Here is the MD5 generated on both files.
a8f88c158cc3927cdc786b67150b86f9 and
4fb8e9ff969d7c2b0575aa370874cf89.

I'm more than happy to give it another go or two or three. Once
I've had a bit more coffee...

Thanks

On Fri, 08 May 2009 05:51:58 -0600 Zero3 
wrote:
>Hey
>
>You seem to have tested the *old* Windows installer, which
>unfortunately
>doesn't work on Vista. If you can, please test the new one from
>the link
>from toad's mail :).
>
>- Zero3
>
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>>
>>
>> On Thu, 07 May 2009 16:29:19 -0600 Matthew Toseland
>>  wrote:
>>> On Thursday 07 May 2009 23:27:44 Matthew Toseland wrote:
 On Thursday 07 May 2009 18:10:06 Matthew Toseland wrote:
>>>
>https://checksums.freenetproject.org/latest/FreenetInstaller.exe
> This should be Vista-compatible. It is entirely Zero3's work.
>>> Please test
>>> it
> before we release it to all Windows users! In particular,
>>> testing on Vista
> and Windows 7 would be very helpful (since the existing
>>> installer doesn't
> work on these platforms). Thanks!
>
 I have updated the executable:
 - Bundled update.cmd, with juiceman's patch applied.
 - Various minor fixes.
>>> The new length is 8849746 bytes.
>>
>> Here is my adventure with trying to install Freenet on Vista 64
>bit
>> (I'm new to this OS). It is a bit repetitive but better than
>> nothing I imagine.
>>
>>
>>
>> Notes and such:
>>
>> Installing as an administrator.
>>
>> Idea: Progress indicator for both freenet-stable-latest.jar and
>> freenet-ext.jar inside IzPack. They took quite some time to
>> download this iteration and a new user may give up. If not a
>> progress indicator, possibly an idea of how large the file is so
>> the user knows it may be awhile.
>>
>> Failure same as reported to bugtracker...
>>
>> Registering .fref file extension
>> "Online installation mode"
>> Downloading update.cmd
>> Downloading the Opennet seednode file
>> Setting up plugins
>>  -JSTUN
>>  -UPnP
>>  -XMLLibrarian
>>  -KeyExplorer
>>  -ThawIndexBrowser
>> Downloading freenet-stable-latest.jar
>> Downloading freenet-ext.jar
>> Detecting tcp port availability
>> Setting fproxy port to 
>> Building wrapper.conf
>> Copying install_service.bat
>> Copying remove_service.bat
>> Copying start.cmd
>> Copying stop.cmd
>> Installing the wrapper
>>  - Creating a user for freenet
>> Removing old freenet user
>> Creating new freenet user
>> Setting password expiry
>> Writing password to file temporarily to install service
>>  - Hiding the freenet user from the login screen
>>  - Tweaking the permissions of the freenet user
>>  - Changing file permissions
>>  - Registering Freenet as a system service
>> Running wrapper on wrapper.conf
>> Running wrapper again on wrapper.conf
>> wrapper  | Freenet 0.7 darknet- installed.
>>  - Start the node up
>> The Freenet 0.7 darknet- service is starting.
>> The Freenet 0.7 darknet- service could not be started.
>>
>> A system error has occurred.
>>
>> System error 1067 has occurred.
>>
>> The process terminated unexpectedly.
>>
>> Starting browser
>> All done, please click Next
>> - -
>>
>> Possible windows defender issue? Trying again with it disabled.
>> - -
>>
>> Strange, 2nd time it thinks I do not have java installed. To
>work
>> around I ran java.exe from the command line and then immediately
>> ran the
>>
>> installer. This only worked once and only once, see further
>down.
>>
>> Another thought: In addition to "Online installation mode", how
>> about a mode for moving a pre-existing node to an new (virgin)
>> windows OS. (creates new user, permission, etc, but moves
>existing
>> configs and datastore)
>>
>> Pffft, failed again as above
>>
>> ahh, mklink java.exe c:\windows\system32\java.exe
>>
>> Ok, try again:
>>
>> 1. Install as administrator
>> 2. after IzPack pack install finishes (13/13) drop to cmd as
>admin
>> and add symbolic link in ./bin "mklink java.exe
>> c:\windows\system32\java.exe"
>> 3. Click next in installer.
>> 4. Installer finished w/o errors, click next.
>> 5. Oops, next window is empty, clicking next does nothing.
>> 6. Click Quit. (No shortcuts/start menu items built for Freenet)
>> 7. Freenet first time wizard starts
>> 8. Work through installer, then I shut down node from main page.
>>
>> Try again:
>> 1. Install as administrator
>> 2. Installer does not see java as installed.
>> 3. Run the java installer, New window on installer with options
>for
>> shortcuts etc. (not seen in earlier tries, progress?)
>> 4. Change default directory
>> 5. Does not like my existing node, so much for s

Re: [freenet-dev] Please help us test the new wininstaller (Vista users especially welcome)

2009-05-08 Thread Zero3
Hey

You seem to have tested the *old* Windows installer, which unfortunately 
doesn't work on Vista. If you can, please test the new one from the link 
from toad's mail :).

- Zero3

gh...@hushmail.com skrev:
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> 
> 
> On Thu, 07 May 2009 16:29:19 -0600 Matthew Toseland
>  wrote:
>> On Thursday 07 May 2009 23:27:44 Matthew Toseland wrote:
>>> On Thursday 07 May 2009 18:10:06 Matthew Toseland wrote:
>> https://checksums.freenetproject.org/latest/FreenetInstaller.exe
 This should be Vista-compatible. It is entirely Zero3's work.
>> Please test
>> it
 before we release it to all Windows users! In particular,
>> testing on Vista
 and Windows 7 would be very helpful (since the existing
>> installer doesn't
 work on these platforms). Thanks!

>>> I have updated the executable:
>>> - Bundled update.cmd, with juiceman's patch applied.
>>> - Various minor fixes.
>> The new length is 8849746 bytes.
> 
> Here is my adventure with trying to install Freenet on Vista 64 bit
> (I'm new to this OS). It is a bit repetitive but better than
> nothing I imagine.
> 
> 
> 
> Notes and such:
> 
> Installing as an administrator.
> 
> Idea: Progress indicator for both freenet-stable-latest.jar and
> freenet-ext.jar inside IzPack. They took quite some time to
> download this iteration and a new user may give up. If not a
> progress indicator, possibly an idea of how large the file is so
> the user knows it may be awhile.
> 
> Failure same as reported to bugtracker...
> 
> Registering .fref file extension
> "Online installation mode"
> Downloading update.cmd
> Downloading the Opennet seednode file
> Setting up plugins
>   -JSTUN
>   -UPnP
>   -XMLLibrarian
>   -KeyExplorer
>   -ThawIndexBrowser
> Downloading freenet-stable-latest.jar
> Downloading freenet-ext.jar
> Detecting tcp port availability
> Setting fproxy port to 
> Building wrapper.conf
> Copying install_service.bat
> Copying remove_service.bat
> Copying start.cmd
> Copying stop.cmd
> Installing the wrapper
>   - Creating a user for freenet
> Removing old freenet user
> Creating new freenet user
> Setting password expiry
> Writing password to file temporarily to install service
>   - Hiding the freenet user from the login screen
>   - Tweaking the permissions of the freenet user
>   - Changing file permissions
>   - Registering Freenet as a system service
> Running wrapper on wrapper.conf
> Running wrapper again on wrapper.conf
> wrapper  | Freenet 0.7 darknet- installed.
>   - Start the node up
> The Freenet 0.7 darknet- service is starting.
> The Freenet 0.7 darknet- service could not be started.
> 
> A system error has occurred.
> 
> System error 1067 has occurred.
> 
> The process terminated unexpectedly.
> 
> Starting browser
> All done, please click Next
> - -
> 
> Possible windows defender issue? Trying again with it disabled.
> - -
> 
> Strange, 2nd time it thinks I do not have java installed. To work
> around I ran java.exe from the command line and then immediately
> ran the
> 
> installer. This only worked once and only once, see further down.
> 
> Another thought: In addition to "Online installation mode", how
> about a mode for moving a pre-existing node to an new (virgin)
> windows OS. (creates new user, permission, etc, but moves existing
> configs and datastore)
> 
> Pffft, failed again as above
> 
> ahh, mklink java.exe c:\windows\system32\java.exe
> 
> Ok, try again:
> 
> 1. Install as administrator
> 2. after IzPack pack install finishes (13/13) drop to cmd as admin
> and add symbolic link in ./bin "mklink java.exe
> c:\windows\system32\java.exe"
> 3. Click next in installer.
> 4. Installer finished w/o errors, click next.
> 5. Oops, next window is empty, clicking next does nothing.
> 6. Click Quit. (No shortcuts/start menu items built for Freenet)
> 7. Freenet first time wizard starts
> 8. Work through installer, then I shut down node from main page.
> 
> Try again:
> 1. Install as administrator
> 2. Installer does not see java as installed.
> 3. Run the java installer, New window on installer with options for
> shortcuts etc. (not seen in earlier tries, progress?)
> 4. Change default directory
> 5. Does not like my existing node, so much for seeing if I could
> upgrading in place. :)
> 6. Point to empty directory.
> 7. Fails to start system service as above, again.
> 
> Try again:
> 1. Uninstall java(s) and now uninstall Freenet as it now had menus
> and such. This works! lol
> 2. Install as administrator
> 3. Install java. WTF? current user no longer sees java. Perhaps
> only for freenet? Continue install...
> 4. Install says it finished
> 5. First time installer starts
> 6. Finished and working had I any 'friends' yet.
> 
> Spoke too soon, the java installed via the Freenet installer
> installs 32 bi

Re: [freenet-dev] Please help us test the new wininstaller (Vista users especially welcome)

2009-05-07 Thread Thomas Bruderer

Matthew Toseland wrote:

On Thursday 07 May 2009 23:27:44 Matthew Toseland wrote:
  

On Thursday 07 May 2009 18:10:06 Matthew Toseland wrote:


https://checksums.freenetproject.org/latest/FreenetInstaller.exe

This should be Vista-compatible. It is entirely Zero3's work. Please test 
  
it 
  
before we release it to all Windows users! In particular, testing on Vista 
and Windows 7 would be very helpful (since the existing installer doesn't 
work on these platforms). Thanks!


  

I have updated the executable:
- Bundled update.cmd, with juiceman's patch applied.
- Various minor fixes.



The new length is 8849746 bytes.
  



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I checked the new installer on Windows Vista 64bit. Looks good :) no 
problems. Install was done very fast. very nice.


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Re: [freenet-dev] Please help us test the new wininstaller (Vista users especially welcome)

2009-05-07 Thread ghoul
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On Thu, 07 May 2009 16:29:19 -0600 Matthew Toseland
 wrote:
>On Thursday 07 May 2009 23:27:44 Matthew Toseland wrote:
>> On Thursday 07 May 2009 18:10:06 Matthew Toseland wrote:
>> >
>https://checksums.freenetproject.org/latest/FreenetInstaller.exe
>> >
>> > This should be Vista-compatible. It is entirely Zero3's work.
>Please test
>it
>> > before we release it to all Windows users! In particular,
>testing on Vista
>> > and Windows 7 would be very helpful (since the existing
>installer doesn't
>> > work on these platforms). Thanks!
>> >
>> I have updated the executable:
>> - Bundled update.cmd, with juiceman's patch applied.
>> - Various minor fixes.
>
>The new length is 8849746 bytes.

Here is my adventure with trying to install Freenet on Vista 64 bit
(I'm new to this OS). It is a bit repetitive but better than
nothing I imagine.



Notes and such:

Installing as an administrator.

Idea: Progress indicator for both freenet-stable-latest.jar and
freenet-ext.jar inside IzPack. They took quite some time to
download this iteration and a new user may give up. If not a
progress indicator, possibly an idea of how large the file is so
the user knows it may be awhile.

Failure same as reported to bugtracker...

Registering .fref file extension
"Online installation mode"
Downloading update.cmd
Downloading the Opennet seednode file
Setting up plugins
-JSTUN
-UPnP
-XMLLibrarian
-KeyExplorer
-ThawIndexBrowser
Downloading freenet-stable-latest.jar
Downloading freenet-ext.jar
Detecting tcp port availability
Setting fproxy port to 
Building wrapper.conf
Copying install_service.bat
Copying remove_service.bat
Copying start.cmd
Copying stop.cmd
Installing the wrapper
- Creating a user for freenet
Removing old freenet user
Creating new freenet user
Setting password expiry
Writing password to file temporarily to install service
- Hiding the freenet user from the login screen
- Tweaking the permissions of the freenet user
- Changing file permissions
- Registering Freenet as a system service
Running wrapper on wrapper.conf
Running wrapper again on wrapper.conf
wrapper  | Freenet 0.7 darknet- installed.
- Start the node up
The Freenet 0.7 darknet- service is starting.
The Freenet 0.7 darknet- service could not be started.

A system error has occurred.

System error 1067 has occurred.

The process terminated unexpectedly.

Starting browser
All done, please click Next
- -

Possible windows defender issue? Trying again with it disabled.
- -

Strange, 2nd time it thinks I do not have java installed. To work
around I ran java.exe from the command line and then immediately
ran the

installer. This only worked once and only once, see further down.

Another thought: In addition to "Online installation mode", how
about a mode for moving a pre-existing node to an new (virgin)
windows OS. (creates new user, permission, etc, but moves existing
configs and datastore)

Pffft, failed again as above

ahh, mklink java.exe c:\windows\system32\java.exe

Ok, try again:

1. Install as administrator
2. after IzPack pack install finishes (13/13) drop to cmd as admin
and add symbolic link in ./bin "mklink java.exe
c:\windows\system32\java.exe"
3. Click next in installer.
4. Installer finished w/o errors, click next.
5. Oops, next window is empty, clicking next does nothing.
6. Click Quit. (No shortcuts/start menu items built for Freenet)
7. Freenet first time wizard starts
8. Work through installer, then I shut down node from main page.

Try again:
1. Install as administrator
2. Installer does not see java as installed.
3. Run the java installer, New window on installer with options for
shortcuts etc. (not seen in earlier tries, progress?)
4. Change default directory
5. Does not like my existing node, so much for seeing if I could
upgrading in place. :)
6. Point to empty directory.
7. Fails to start system service as above, again.

Try again:
1. Uninstall java(s) and now uninstall Freenet as it now had menus
and such. This works! lol
2. Install as administrator
3. Install java. WTF? current user no longer sees java. Perhaps
only for freenet? Continue install...
4. Install says it finished
5. First time installer starts
6. Finished and working had I any 'friends' yet.

Spoke too soon, the java installed via the Freenet installer
installs 32 bit java in %windir%\syswow64 as well as "Program Files
(x86)\Java\jre6\bin".

Try yet again:
1. install 64 bit java
2. ln them (mklink java.exe ..\system32\java.exe)
3. Install freenet as administrator
4. Again, fails to see java.
5. Ok, gonna try installing java from freenet installer, then
remove this version of java after install.
6. fails to seee java, but wait, trying #2 again after install...
7. hmm, it tried to start, but says freen

Re: [freenet-dev] Please help us test the new wininstaller (Vista users especially welcome)

2009-05-07 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Thursday 07 May 2009 23:27:44 Matthew Toseland wrote:
> On Thursday 07 May 2009 18:10:06 Matthew Toseland wrote:
> > https://checksums.freenetproject.org/latest/FreenetInstaller.exe
> > 
> > This should be Vista-compatible. It is entirely Zero3's work. Please test 
it 
> > before we release it to all Windows users! In particular, testing on Vista 
> > and Windows 7 would be very helpful (since the existing installer doesn't 
> > work on these platforms). Thanks!
> > 
> I have updated the executable:
> - Bundled update.cmd, with juiceman's patch applied.
> - Various minor fixes.

The new length is 8849746 bytes.


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Re: [freenet-dev] Please help us test the new wininstaller (Vista users especially welcome)

2009-05-07 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Thursday 07 May 2009 18:10:06 Matthew Toseland wrote:
> https://checksums.freenetproject.org/latest/FreenetInstaller.exe
> 
> This should be Vista-compatible. It is entirely Zero3's work. Please test it 
> before we release it to all Windows users! In particular, testing on Vista 
> and Windows 7 would be very helpful (since the existing installer doesn't 
> work on these platforms). Thanks!
> 
I have updated the executable:
- Bundled update.cmd, with juiceman's patch applied.
- Various minor fixes.



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