Re: Funny coverage of the recent reddit/hackernews chatter

2013-10-16 Thread Sönke Ludwig

Am 15.10.2013 23:17, schrieb Iain Buclaw:

On 15 October 2013 18:59, Tourist  wrote:

On Tuesday, 15 October 2013 at 17:47:54 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:



http://www.fastcolabs.com/3019948/more-about-d-language-and-why-facebook-is-experimenting-with-it

Andrei



Google shows a rise in interest as well:
http://www.google.com/trends/explore?q=d+language#q=d%20language&cmpt=q



Google shows a rise of interest... from Nigeria.




This one seems to be more interesting:
http://www.google.com/trends/explore?q=dlang#q=dlang&cmpt=q


Re: Funny coverage of the recent reddit/hackernews chatter

2013-10-16 Thread simendsjo

On Wednesday, 16 October 2013 at 07:52:06 UTC, Sönke Ludwig wrote:

Am 15.10.2013 23:17, schrieb Iain Buclaw:
On 15 October 2013 18:59, Tourist  
wrote:
On Tuesday, 15 October 2013 at 17:47:54 UTC, Andrei 
Alexandrescu wrote:



http://www.fastcolabs.com/3019948/more-about-d-language-and-why-facebook-is-experimenting-with-it

Andrei



Google shows a rise in interest as well:
http://www.google.com/trends/explore?q=d+language#q=d%20language&cmpt=q



Google shows a rise of interest... from Nigeria.




This one seems to be more interesting:
http://www.google.com/trends/explore?q=dlang#q=dlang&cmpt=q


Another funny thing: I couldn't get the page to work in Chromium 
and had to use FF :)


Re: Funny coverage of the recent reddit/hackernews chatter

2013-10-16 Thread Jacob Carlborg

On 2013-10-16 10:01, simendsjo wrote:


Another funny thing: I couldn't get the page to work in Chromium and had
to use FF :)


Did you try Chrome :)

--
/Jacob Carlborg


Re: Pragmatic D Tutorial

2013-10-16 Thread Tourist

On Sunday, 13 October 2013 at 08:23:16 UTC, Tourist wrote:

On Saturday, 12 October 2013 at 23:34:11 UTC, qznc wrote:

On Monday, 7 October 2013 at 22:39:26 UTC, qznc wrote:

On Monday, 7 October 2013 at 20:36:46 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
OP: any chance to adjust that page? Then we'll announce to 
reddit.


Too early for more publicity, I think.


Now every chapter has "some" text. Feel free to publicize it.


A small issue:
http://qznc.github.io/d-tut/meta.html

The width of the code in "String Mixins" overflows under the 
menu.


Also, I liked the previous design more, with some orange.


Same here:
http://qznc.github.io/d-tut/optimization.html


Re: Unstandard, a general purpose library

2013-10-16 Thread ilya-stromberg
On Saturday, 12 October 2013 at 14:21:12 UTC, Denis Shelomovskij 
wrote:
*Unstandard* is a library for general purpose usage aimed to be 
an addition to the *D* standard runtime library *Phobos*.


The author would like to pull as much functionality as possible 
to Phobos but it's a rather difficult and slow work.


Good luck.
It will be great to see additional functions in Phobos.


Re: Mono-D 0.5.4.1 - Build, completion & other fixes + Unittests via rdmd

2013-10-16 Thread Bruno Medeiros

On 08/10/2013 14:18, Alexander Bothe wrote:

Are there any plans/tricks/hacks on how to get programs built
with dmd debuggable with gdb? Then we also could release the
addin for Windows as well!
(Afaik I asked the same question some time ago, but well, perhaps
something did change over the time :-))


I was wondering the same as well... But from the lack of answers I think 
not much can be done? :/


--
Bruno Medeiros - Software Engineer


Re: Mono-D 0.5.4.1 - Build, completion & other fixes + Unittests via rdmd

2013-10-16 Thread Dicebot
On Wednesday, 16 October 2013 at 12:38:40 UTC, Bruno Medeiros 
wrote:

On 08/10/2013 14:18, Alexander Bothe wrote:

Are there any plans/tricks/hacks on how to get programs built
with dmd debuggable with gdb? Then we also could release the
addin for Windows as well!
(Afaik I asked the same question some time ago, but well, 
perhaps

something did change over the time :-))


I was wondering the same as well... But from the lack of 
answers I think not much can be done? :/


Well I do debug `dmd -gc` programs with gdb relatively 
frequently. What exactly is of interest?


Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-16 Thread Andrej Mitrovic
On 10/16/13, Andrei Alexandrescu  wrote:
> What are you protesting against?

Walter.


Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-16 Thread deadalnix

On Saturday, 12 October 2013 at 22:16:13 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:

http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd2beta.zip

Current list of regressions:

http://d.puremagic.com/issues/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_severity=regression&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED

This isn't a release candidate, in particular the documentation 
needs work, but we need to shake the tree for any undetected 
regressions.


Further beta announcements go in the dmd-beta mailing list.

Note that this release contains:

29 enhancements
307 dmd bugs fixed
14 druntime bugs fixed
73 phobos bugs fixed


Hum I have several regression is SDC's test suite. I have to 
investigate more to fix the code or submit bug report. It looks 
related to AA. What are the changes that affect AA in this new 
release ?


Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-16 Thread Anthony Goins
On Wednesday, 16 October 2013 at 13:34:04 UTC, Andrej Mitrovic 
wrote:
On 10/16/13, Andrei Alexandrescu 
 wrote:

What are you protesting against?


Walter.


The last change log was awesome.
I vote to get rid of Walter. :)


code.dlang.org now supports categories and search

2013-10-16 Thread Sönke Ludwig
The DUB package registry [1] has finally gained support for the text and 
category based search of packages. There is also a category for D 
standard library candidate modules, as has been suggested recently.


If you already have any registered packages, please log in and add the 
proper categories to each of them ("My packages" -> click on package 
name). Should there be no exact category match, and that specific 
category is likely to have multiple entries in the future, please make a 
corresponding pull request against the category file [2] on GitHub.


It's still all a little rough around the edges. Any bugs can be reported 
on the issue tracker [3] or discussed in the forum [4].


[1]: http://code.dlang.org
[2]: 
https://github.com/rejectedsoftware/dub-registry/blob/master/categories.json

[3]: https://github.com/rejectedsoftware/dub-registry/issues
[4]: http://forum.rejectedsoftware.com/groups/rejectedsoftware.dub/


Re: Facebook is using D in production starting today

2013-10-16 Thread Pedro Rodrigues
On Friday, 11 October 2013 at 00:36:12 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu 
wrote:
Today I committed the first 5112 lines of D code to Facebook's 
repository. The project is in heavy daily use at Facebook. 
Compared to the original version (written in C++) we've 
measured massive wins in all of source code size, build speed, 
and running speed.


In all likelihood we'll follow up with a blog post describing 
the process.



Andrei


This is nice to know. Any estimate on when is that blog post 
coming out?


Re: code.dlang.org now supports categories and search

2013-10-16 Thread ponce

On Wednesday, 16 October 2013 at 19:01:45 UTC, Sönke Ludwig wrote:
If you already have any registered packages, please log in and 
add the proper categories to each of them ("My packages" -> 
click on package name). Should there be no exact category 
match, and that specific category is likely to have multiple 
entries in the future, please make a corresponding pull request 
against the category file [2] on GitHub.


It's still all a little rough around the edges. Any bugs can be 
reported on the issue tracker [3] or discussed in the forum [4].


Great! But I think the eloty categories must go until needed.


Re: code.dlang.org now supports categories and search

2013-10-16 Thread ponce

On Wednesday, 16 October 2013 at 19:23:54 UTC, ponce wrote:


Great! But I think the eloty categories must go until needed.


I meant "empty".


Re: code.dlang.org now supports categories and search

2013-10-16 Thread Sönke Ludwig

Am 16.10.2013 21:24, schrieb ponce:

On Wednesday, 16 October 2013 at 19:23:54 UTC, ponce wrote:


Great! But I think the eloty categories must go until needed.


I meant "empty".


https://github.com/rejectedsoftware/dub-registry/issues/21


Re: code.dlang.org now supports categories and search

2013-10-16 Thread Andrej Mitrovic
On 10/16/13, Sönke Ludwig  wrote:
> It's still all a little rough around the edges. Any bugs can be reported
> on the issue tracker [3] or discussed in the forum [4].
>
> [1]: http://code.dlang.org
> [2]:
> https://github.com/rejectedsoftware/dub-registry/blob/master/categories.json
> [3]: https://github.com/rejectedsoftware/dub-registry/issues
> [4]: http://forum.rejectedsoftware.com/groups/rejectedsoftware.dub/

Not necessarily a bug, but when you search for "dlib", you only get
one result, "dlib" (dlibgit is missing). I've tried using "dlib*" but
that didn't work either. I think the search engine should try to be a
little more lax and show partial matches too.


Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-16 Thread Brad Roberts

On 10/16/13 6:33 AM, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:

On 10/16/13, Andrei Alexandrescu  wrote:

What are you protesting against?


Walter.


That's not a what, that's a who.  Would you please elaborate on the what and why?  I haven't seen 
any obstructionism coming from anyone in terms of repeating the previous style for this releases notes.




Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-16 Thread Jacob Carlborg

On Wednesday, 16 October 2013 at 20:19:17 UTC, Brad Roberts wrote:

That's not a what, that's a who.  Would you please elaborate on 
the what and why?  I haven't seen any obstructionism coming 
from anyone in terms of repeating the previous style for this 
releases notes.


Originally Walter  thought it was enough to just list the 
bugzilla issues.


--
/Jacob Carlborg


Re: Funny coverage of the recent reddit/hackernews chatter

2013-10-16 Thread Jonathan M Davis
On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 10:48:12 Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> http://www.fastcolabs.com/3019948/more-about-d-language-and-why-facebook-is-> 
> experimenting-with-it

I was not expecting to be quoted from there. Well, it's sometimes surprising 
where stuff pops up. At least I didn't get quoted for saying something stupid. 
:)

- Jonathan M Davis


Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-16 Thread Jonathan M Davis
On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 22:28:41 Jacob Carlborg wrote:
> On Wednesday, 16 October 2013 at 20:19:17 UTC, Brad Roberts wrote:
> > That's not a what, that's a who. Would you please elaborate on
> > the what and why? I haven't seen any obstructionism coming
> > from anyone in terms of repeating the previous style for this
> > releases notes.
> 
> Originally Walter thought it was enough to just list the
> bugzilla issues.

Yes, but after Andej did the great changelog for 2.063, Walter publicly 
admitted that he had been wrong about the changelog. Andrej showed Walter that 
it _is_ worth doing something more than just a list of bugzilla issues. So, I 
would assume that whatever Andrej is unhappy with Walter for is something 
else.

- Jonathan M Davis


Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-16 Thread John Colvin
On Wednesday, 16 October 2013 at 20:28:42 UTC, Jacob Carlborg 
wrote:
On Wednesday, 16 October 2013 at 20:19:17 UTC, Brad Roberts 
wrote:


That's not a what, that's a who.  Would you please elaborate 
on the what and why?  I haven't seen any obstructionism coming 
from anyone in terms of repeating the previous style for this 
releases notes.


Originally Walter  thought it was enough to just list the 
bugzilla issues.


--
/Jacob Carlborg


He was proved wrong and IIRC correctly quite graciously admitted 
defeat.


Re: Facebook is using D in production starting today

2013-10-16 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu

On 10/16/13 12:12 PM, Pedro Rodrigues wrote:

On Friday, 11 October 2013 at 00:36:12 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

Today I committed the first 5112 lines of D code to Facebook's
repository. The project is in heavy daily use at Facebook. Compared to
the original version (written in C++) we've measured massive wins in
all of source code size, build speed, and running speed.

In all likelihood we'll follow up with a blog post describing the
process.


Andrei  


This is nice to know. Any estimate on when is that blog post coming out?


Not yet. I'm scrambling to hit the proverbial iron while it's hot, and 
blogging had to give priority to that. I estimate a couple more weeks 
before I have something out.


Thanks for the interest.


Andrei



Re: Mono-D 0.5.4.1 - Build, completion & other fixes + Unittests via rdmd

2013-10-16 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu

On 10/16/13 5:38 AM, Bruno Medeiros wrote:

On 08/10/2013 14:18, Alexander Bothe wrote:

Are there any plans/tricks/hacks on how to get programs built
with dmd debuggable with gdb? Then we also could release the
addin for Windows as well!
(Afaik I asked the same question some time ago, but well, perhaps
something did change over the time :-))


I was wondering the same as well... But from the lack of answers I think
not much can be done? :/


What are the matters involved? I did get basic debugging sessions 
working, but I forgot whether it was dmd or gdc.


Andrei



Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-16 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu

On 10/16/13 2:16 PM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:

On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 22:28:41 Jacob Carlborg wrote:

On Wednesday, 16 October 2013 at 20:19:17 UTC, Brad Roberts wrote:

That's not a what, that's a who. Would you please elaborate on
the what and why? I haven't seen any obstructionism coming
from anyone in terms of repeating the previous style for this
releases notes.


Originally Walter thought it was enough to just list the
bugzilla issues.


Yes, but after Andej did the great changelog for 2.063, Walter publicly
admitted that he had been wrong about the changelog. Andrej showed Walter that
it _is_ worth doing something more than just a list of bugzilla issues. So, I
would assume that whatever Andrej is unhappy with Walter for is something
else.


Oh that was it? I recall Walter and I discussing two unrelated issue 
(null pointers and VMs) where I sort of reversed my view and admitted I 
considered my previous opinions wrong. He mentioned the changelog, and 
said "boy was I wrong about that!"


So Andrej consider yourself vindicated, in public and in private.


Andrei



Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-16 Thread Tourist
On Wednesday, 16 October 2013 at 20:28:42 UTC, Jacob Carlborg 
wrote:
On Wednesday, 16 October 2013 at 20:19:17 UTC, Brad Roberts 
wrote:


That's not a what, that's a who.  Would you please elaborate 
on the what and why?  I haven't seen any obstructionism coming 
from anyone in terms of repeating the previous style for this 
releases notes.


Originally Walter  thought it was enough to just list the 
bugzilla issues.


--
/Jacob Carlborg


http://forum.dlang.org/thread/ko84eb$1kfo$1...@digitalmars.com


Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-16 Thread Walter Bright

On 10/16/2013 6:33 AM, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:

On 10/16/13, Andrei Alexandrescu  wrote:

What are you protesting against?


Walter.



I'll go have myself flogged, then.


Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-16 Thread bearophile

Walter Bright:


I'll go have myself flogged, then.


But please be gentle and use something soft, like a fake snow 
leopard tail:


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/musta.surma/Hpim4850.jpg

Bye,
bearophile


NWCPP tonight!

2013-10-16 Thread Walter Bright

Date: Wednesday October 16, 2013

Time: 7:00 PM

Location: Microsoft Eastside Campus, Bldg. 41, Room 1511 / Townsend (see our 
website www.nwcpp.org for directions).


Title: New Adventures in C++ with Cinder and More

Be there or be square.


Re: code.dlang.org now supports categories and search

2013-10-16 Thread Sönke Ludwig

Am 16.10.2013 21:58, schrieb Andrej Mitrovic:

On 10/16/13, Sönke Ludwig  wrote:

It's still all a little rough around the edges. Any bugs can be reported
on the issue tracker [3] or discussed in the forum [4].

[1]: http://code.dlang.org
[2]:
https://github.com/rejectedsoftware/dub-registry/blob/master/categories.json
[3]: https://github.com/rejectedsoftware/dub-registry/issues
[4]: http://forum.rejectedsoftware.com/groups/rejectedsoftware.dub/


Not necessarily a bug, but when you search for "dlib", you only get
one result, "dlib" (dlibgit is missing). I've tried using "dlib*" but
that didn't work either. I think the search engine should try to be a
little more lax and show partial matches too.



I agree, that should probably count as one of the rough edges ;)

Currently it uses a crude old way of doing text search for old versions 
of MongoDB, but in the latest versions they have much better means. I'll 
look into it.


Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-16 Thread Rory McGuire
On 17 Oct 2013 00:40, "bearophile"  wrote:
>
> Walter Bright:
>
>
>> I'll go have myself flogged, then.
>
>
> But please be gentle and use something soft, like a fake snow leopard
tail:

Surely having to deal with c++ whenever Walter works on dmd is punishment
enough :D.