code.dlang.org now supports categories and search

2013-10-16 Thread Sönke Ludwig
The DUB package registry [1] has finally gained support for the text and 
category based search of packages. There is also a category for D 
standard library candidate modules, as has been suggested recently.


If you already have any registered packages, please log in and add the 
proper categories to each of them ("My packages" -> click on package 
name). Should there be no exact category match, and that specific 
category is likely to have multiple entries in the future, please make a 
corresponding pull request against the category file [2] on GitHub.


It's still all a little rough around the edges. Any bugs can be reported 
on the issue tracker [3] or discussed in the forum [4].


[1]: http://code.dlang.org
[2]: 
https://github.com/rejectedsoftware/dub-registry/blob/master/categories.json

[3]: https://github.com/rejectedsoftware/dub-registry/issues
[4]: http://forum.rejectedsoftware.com/groups/rejectedsoftware.dub/


Re: code.dlang.org now supports categories and search

2013-10-16 Thread ponce

On Wednesday, 16 October 2013 at 19:01:45 UTC, Sönke Ludwig wrote:
If you already have any registered packages, please log in and 
add the proper categories to each of them ("My packages" -> 
click on package name). Should there be no exact category 
match, and that specific category is likely to have multiple 
entries in the future, please make a corresponding pull request 
against the category file [2] on GitHub.


It's still all a little rough around the edges. Any bugs can be 
reported on the issue tracker [3] or discussed in the forum [4].


Great! But I think the eloty categories must go until needed.


Re: code.dlang.org now supports categories and search

2013-10-16 Thread ponce

On Wednesday, 16 October 2013 at 19:23:54 UTC, ponce wrote:


Great! But I think the eloty categories must go until needed.


I meant "empty".


Re: code.dlang.org now supports categories and search

2013-10-16 Thread Sönke Ludwig

Am 16.10.2013 21:24, schrieb ponce:

On Wednesday, 16 October 2013 at 19:23:54 UTC, ponce wrote:


Great! But I think the eloty categories must go until needed.


I meant "empty".


https://github.com/rejectedsoftware/dub-registry/issues/21


Re: code.dlang.org now supports categories and search

2013-10-16 Thread Andrej Mitrovic
On 10/16/13, Sönke Ludwig  wrote:
> It's still all a little rough around the edges. Any bugs can be reported
> on the issue tracker [3] or discussed in the forum [4].
>
> [1]: http://code.dlang.org
> [2]:
> https://github.com/rejectedsoftware/dub-registry/blob/master/categories.json
> [3]: https://github.com/rejectedsoftware/dub-registry/issues
> [4]: http://forum.rejectedsoftware.com/groups/rejectedsoftware.dub/

Not necessarily a bug, but when you search for "dlib", you only get
one result, "dlib" (dlibgit is missing). I've tried using "dlib*" but
that didn't work either. I think the search engine should try to be a
little more lax and show partial matches too.


Re: code.dlang.org now supports categories and search

2013-10-16 Thread Sönke Ludwig

Am 16.10.2013 21:58, schrieb Andrej Mitrovic:

On 10/16/13, Sönke Ludwig  wrote:

It's still all a little rough around the edges. Any bugs can be reported
on the issue tracker [3] or discussed in the forum [4].

[1]: http://code.dlang.org
[2]:
https://github.com/rejectedsoftware/dub-registry/blob/master/categories.json
[3]: https://github.com/rejectedsoftware/dub-registry/issues
[4]: http://forum.rejectedsoftware.com/groups/rejectedsoftware.dub/


Not necessarily a bug, but when you search for "dlib", you only get
one result, "dlib" (dlibgit is missing). I've tried using "dlib*" but
that didn't work either. I think the search engine should try to be a
little more lax and show partial matches too.



I agree, that should probably count as one of the rough edges ;)

Currently it uses a crude old way of doing text search for old versions 
of MongoDB, but in the latest versions they have much better means. I'll 
look into it.


Re: code.dlang.org now supports categories and search

2013-10-17 Thread Sönke Ludwig

Am 16.10.2013 21:01, schrieb Sönke Ludwig:

The DUB package registry [1] has finally gained support for the text and
category based search of packages. There is also a category for D
standard library candidate modules, as has been suggested recently.

If you already have any registered packages, please log in and add the
proper categories to each of them ("My packages" -> click on package
name). Should there be no exact category match, and that specific
category is likely to have multiple entries in the future, please make a
corresponding pull request against the category file [2] on GitHub.

It's still all a little rough around the edges. Any bugs can be reported
on the issue tracker [3] or discussed in the forum [4].

[1]: http://code.dlang.org
[2]:
https://github.com/rejectedsoftware/dub-registry/blob/master/categories.json

[3]: https://github.com/rejectedsoftware/dub-registry/issues
[4]: http://forum.rejectedsoftware.com/groups/rejectedsoftware.dub/


Now also with JavaScript support for switching categories and alphabetic 
sorting.


Re: code.dlang.org now supports categories and search

2013-10-17 Thread Tourist

On Thursday, 17 October 2013 at 18:22:02 UTC, Sönke Ludwig wrote:

Am 16.10.2013 21:01, schrieb Sönke Ludwig:
The DUB package registry [1] has finally gained support for 
the text and
category based search of packages. There is also a category 
for D
standard library candidate modules, as has been suggested 
recently.


If you already have any registered packages, please log in and 
add the
proper categories to each of them ("My packages" -> click on 
package
name). Should there be no exact category match, and that 
specific
category is likely to have multiple entries in the future, 
please make a
corresponding pull request against the category file [2] on 
GitHub.


It's still all a little rough around the edges. Any bugs can 
be reported

on the issue tracker [3] or discussed in the forum [4].

[1]: http://code.dlang.org
[2]:
https://github.com/rejectedsoftware/dub-registry/blob/master/categories.json

[3]: https://github.com/rejectedsoftware/dub-registry/issues
[4]: 
http://forum.rejectedsoftware.com/groups/rejectedsoftware.dub/


Now also with JavaScript support for switching categories and 
alphabetic sorting.


The website is a bit "jumpy" for me in Firefox upon navigation.
As if it loads without the CSS for a moment, and then restores.


Re: code.dlang.org now supports categories and search

2013-10-17 Thread Suliman

code.dlang.org

Does we should have cats? maybe the organization by tags is 
better?





Re: code.dlang.org now supports categories and search

2013-10-18 Thread Sönke Ludwig

Am 18.10.2013 08:47, schrieb Suliman:

code.dlang.org

Does we should have cats? maybe the organization by tags is better?


You mean like a flat list of tags?

Currently it's something like hierarchical tags. Each package can have 
multiple categories, and the specific categories, as well as the 
ancestor categories will all match.


But one thing that I'd like to improve is the UI for category selection 
and make it hierarchical and step by step (like the path navigation of 
e.g. modern Windows Explorer). Also maybe the hierarchy itself could be 
improved (it's in a very ad-hoc state), so that there is less redundancy 
and selecting multiple tags/categories is used to disambiguate instead.


Re: code.dlang.org now supports categories and search

2013-10-18 Thread Sönke Ludwig

Am 17.10.2013 20:25, schrieb Tourist:

On Thursday, 17 October 2013 at 18:22:02 UTC, Sönke Ludwig wrote:

Am 16.10.2013 21:01, schrieb Sönke Ludwig:

The DUB package registry [1] has finally gained support for the text and
category based search of packages. There is also a category for D
standard library candidate modules, as has been suggested recently.

If you already have any registered packages, please log in and add the
proper categories to each of them ("My packages" -> click on package
name). Should there be no exact category match, and that specific
category is likely to have multiple entries in the future, please make a
corresponding pull request against the category file [2] on GitHub.

It's still all a little rough around the edges. Any bugs can be reported
on the issue tracker [3] or discussed in the forum [4].

[1]: http://code.dlang.org
[2]:
https://github.com/rejectedsoftware/dub-registry/blob/master/categories.json


[3]: https://github.com/rejectedsoftware/dub-registry/issues
[4]: http://forum.rejectedsoftware.com/groups/rejectedsoftware.dub/


Now also with JavaScript support for switching categories and
alphabetic sorting.


The website is a bit "jumpy" for me in Firefox upon navigation.
As if it loads without the CSS for a moment, and then restores.


I could barely reproduce it, but it looks like the cache headers that 
the server sent caused the CSS to be re-requested for every page load. 
Should be fixed now.


Re: code.dlang.org now supports categories and search

2013-10-18 Thread Tourist

On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 10:23:20 UTC, Sönke Ludwig wrote:

Am 17.10.2013 20:25, schrieb Tourist:
On Thursday, 17 October 2013 at 18:22:02 UTC, Sönke Ludwig 
wrote:

Am 16.10.2013 21:01, schrieb Sönke Ludwig:
The DUB package registry [1] has finally gained support for 
the text and
category based search of packages. There is also a category 
for D
standard library candidate modules, as has been suggested 
recently.


If you already have any registered packages, please log in 
and add the
proper categories to each of them ("My packages" -> click on 
package
name). Should there be no exact category match, and that 
specific
category is likely to have multiple entries in the future, 
please make a
corresponding pull request against the category file [2] on 
GitHub.


It's still all a little rough around the edges. Any bugs can 
be reported

on the issue tracker [3] or discussed in the forum [4].

[1]: http://code.dlang.org
[2]:
https://github.com/rejectedsoftware/dub-registry/blob/master/categories.json


[3]: https://github.com/rejectedsoftware/dub-registry/issues
[4]: 
http://forum.rejectedsoftware.com/groups/rejectedsoftware.dub/


Now also with JavaScript support for switching categories and
alphabetic sorting.


The website is a bit "jumpy" for me in Firefox upon navigation.
As if it loads without the CSS for a moment, and then restores.


I could barely reproduce it, but it looks like the cache 
headers that the server sent caused the CSS to be re-requested 
for every page load. Should be fixed now.


Yep, the issue is gone.
Good job!


Re: code.dlang.org now supports categories and search

2013-11-09 Thread Andrej Mitrovic
On 10/16/13, Sönke Ludwig  wrote:
> The DUB package registry [1] has finally gained support for the text and
> category based search of packages.

Is it possible to add a feature to sort the view by the added date of
a package (rather than just updated/name sorting)? Sometimes I'd like
to see which packages are new in the registry.


Re: code.dlang.org now supports categories and search

2013-11-09 Thread evilrat
On Saturday, 9 November 2013 at 17:04:35 UTC, Andrej Mitrovic 
wrote:


Is it possible to add a feature to sort the view by the added 
date of
a package (rather than just updated/name sorting)? Sometimes 
I'd like

to see which packages are new in the registry.


that would be really useful. who knows when something 
interresting added to dub, this would allow to see...


Re: code.dlang.org now supports categories and search

2013-11-10 Thread Sönke Ludwig

Am 09.11.2013 18:18, schrieb evilrat:

On Saturday, 9 November 2013 at 17:04:35 UTC, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:


Is it possible to add a feature to sort the view by the added date of
a package (rather than just updated/name sorting)? Sometimes I'd like
to see which packages are new in the registry.


that would be really useful. who knows when something interresting added
to dub, this would allow to see...


I've also thought about that in the past days, shouldn't be difficult to 
add (an RSS feed could also be interesting).


Re: code.dlang.org now supports categories and search

2013-11-10 Thread Rory McGuire
Would be nice if you could subscribe to a daily/weekly mail of the new
/updated packages .
On 10 Nov 2013 10:25, "Sönke Ludwig"  wrote:

> Am 09.11.2013 18:18, schrieb evilrat:
>
>> On Saturday, 9 November 2013 at 17:04:35 UTC, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Is it possible to add a feature to sort the view by the added date of
>>> a package (rather than just updated/name sorting)? Sometimes I'd like
>>> to see which packages are new in the registry.
>>>
>>
>> that would be really useful. who knows when something interresting added
>> to dub, this would allow to see...
>>
>
> I've also thought about that in the past days, shouldn't be difficult to
> add (an RSS feed could also be interesting).
>


Re: code.dlang.org now supports categories and search

2013-11-10 Thread Andrej Mitrovic
On 11/10/13, Sönke Ludwig  wrote:
> I've also thought about that in the past days, shouldn't be difficult to
> add (an RSS feed could also be interesting).

I didn't want to appear needy, but yes an RSS feed would be awesome.


Re: code.dlang.org now supports categories and search

2013-11-11 Thread Andrej Mitrovic
On 11/10/13, Andrej Mitrovic  wrote:
> On 11/10/13, Sönke Ludwig  wrote:
>> I've also thought about that in the past days, shouldn't be difficult to
>> add (an RSS feed could also be interesting).
>
> I didn't want to appear needy, but yes an RSS feed would be awesome.

Excellent, I see you've added the "Added" section now. However the
Date column should likely reference the date added rather than the
date updated when "Added" is selected.


Re: code.dlang.org now supports categories and search - license information now required

2013-10-17 Thread Sönke Ludwig
There has been another important change that requires existing packages 
to be updated: All packages must now have the fields "description" and 
"license" present to be published. The license field has to be set 
according to the specification [1]. All existing branches and version 
tags stay unaffected by this requirement and are still available.


This change has been done to prepare for an automated validation of 
license terms in complex dependency hierarchies. This may be an 
important feature as the number of available packages grows, which is 
why this requirement has been introduced now as early as possible.


[1]: http://code.dlang.org/package-format#licenses


Re: code.dlang.org now supports categories and search - license information now required

2013-10-17 Thread ilya-stromberg

On Thursday, 17 October 2013 at 09:33:46 UTC, Sönke Ludwig wrote:
There has been another important change that requires existing 
packages to be updated: All packages must now have the fields 
"description" and "license" present to be published. The 
license field has to be set according to the specification [1]. 
All existing branches and version tags stay unaffected by this 
requirement and are still available.


This change has been done to prepare for an automated 
validation of license terms in complex dependency hierarchies. 
This may be an important feature as the number of available 
packages grows, which is why this requirement has been 
introduced now as early as possible.


[1]: http://code.dlang.org/package-format#licenses


A little addition: allow use full license name, not only short 
name:

`BSL-1.0` or `Boost Software License 1.0`
`AFL-3.0` or `Academic Free License 3.0`
It simplify creation of human-readable license name.

Add `public domain` license.

Add abbility to add the array with licenses:
"license": ["BSL-1.0", "AFL-3.0", "public domain"]
I think it's better than
"license": "BSL-1.0 or AFL-3.0 or public domain"


Re: code.dlang.org now supports categories and search - license information now required

2013-10-17 Thread Sönke Ludwig

Am 17.10.2013 11:55, schrieb ilya-stromberg:

On Thursday, 17 October 2013 at 09:33:46 UTC, Sönke Ludwig wrote:

There has been another important change that requires existing
packages to be updated: All packages must now have the fields
"description" and "license" present to be published. The license field
has to be set according to the specification [1]. All existing
branches and version tags stay unaffected by this requirement and are
still available.

This change has been done to prepare for an automated validation of
license terms in complex dependency hierarchies. This may be an
important feature as the number of available packages grows, which is
why this requirement has been introduced now as early as possible.

[1]: http://code.dlang.org/package-format#licenses


A little addition: allow use full license name, not only short name:
`BSL-1.0` or `Boost Software License 1.0`
`AFL-3.0` or `Academic Free License 3.0`
It simplify creation of human-readable license name.


How about letting the registry display the full name, but keep the short 
name for package descriptions? Having a single compact name reduces the 
chances for errors or ambiguities and reduces the amount of mapping code 
that is needed when reasoning about licenses. My initial idea was to 
fuzzy match licenses and also allow alternatives like "GPLv2" instead of 
"GPL-2.0", but in the end it just increases the potential for mistakes.




Add `public domain` license.


Will do.



Add abbility to add the array with licenses:
"license": ["BSL-1.0", "AFL-3.0", "public domain"]
I think it's better than
"license": "BSL-1.0 or AFL-3.0 or public domain"


There will still be the need to specify "or later", so this will only 
make it partially more structured. I'm a little undecided on this one.


Re: code.dlang.org now supports categories and search - license information now required

2013-10-17 Thread ilya-stromberg

On Thursday, 17 October 2013 at 10:07:40 UTC, Sönke Ludwig wrote:

Am 17.10.2013 11:55, schrieb ilya-stromberg:
On Thursday, 17 October 2013 at 09:33:46 UTC, Sönke Ludwig 
wrote:

There has been another important change that requires existing
packages to be updated: All packages must now have the fields
"description" and "license" present to be published. The 
license field

has to be set according to the specification [1]. All existing
branches and version tags stay unaffected by this requirement 
and are

still available.

This change has been done to prepare for an automated 
validation of
license terms in complex dependency hierarchies. This may be 
an
important feature as the number of available packages grows, 
which is
why this requirement has been introduced now as early as 
possible.


[1]: http://code.dlang.org/package-format#licenses


A little addition: allow use full license name, not only short 
name:

`BSL-1.0` or `Boost Software License 1.0`
`AFL-3.0` or `Academic Free License 3.0`
It simplify creation of human-readable license name.


How about letting the registry display the full name, but keep 
the short name for package descriptions? Having a single 
compact name reduces the chances for errors or ambiguities and 
reduces the amount of mapping code that is needed when 
reasoning about licenses. My initial idea was to fuzzy match 
licenses and also allow alternatives like "GPLv2" instead of 
"GPL-2.0", but in the end it just increases the potential for 
mistakes.


OK, maybe you are right.





Add `public domain` license.


Will do.



Add abbility to add the array with licenses:
"license": ["BSL-1.0", "AFL-3.0", "public domain"]
I think it's better than
"license": "BSL-1.0 or AFL-3.0 or public domain"


There will still be the need to specify "or later", so this 
will only make it partially more structured. I'm a little 
undecided on this one.


We can use `+` to indicate "or later":
"license": ["BSL-1.0+", "AFL-3.0+", "public domain"]
I think it will be clear.


Re: code.dlang.org now supports categories and search - license information now required

2013-10-17 Thread Sönke Ludwig

Am 17.10.2013 12:14, schrieb ilya-stromberg:


Add abbility to add the array with licenses:
"license": ["BSL-1.0", "AFL-3.0", "public domain"]
I think it's better than
"license": "BSL-1.0 or AFL-3.0 or public domain"


There will still be the need to specify "or later", so this will only
make it partially more structured. I'm a little undecided on this one.


We can use `+` to indicate "or later":
"license": ["BSL-1.0+", "AFL-3.0+", "public domain"]
I think it will be clear.


Fair enough, that should work.

But one potential issue just occurred to me. What if a product is 
licensed under multiple licenses that must _all_ apply? That would 
basically be "MPL-2.0 and Apache-1.0" instead of "or". This is something 
that happens quite frequently when code is taken from multiple projects 
or when the license was changed, but some files were under foreign 
copyright.


Re: code.dlang.org now supports categories and search - license information now required

2013-10-17 Thread ponce
But one potential issue just occurred to me. What if a product 
is licensed under multiple licenses that must _all_ apply? That 
would basically be "MPL-2.0 and Apache-1.0" instead of "or". 
This is something that happens quite frequently when code is 
taken from multiple projects or when the license was changed, 
but some files were under foreign copyright.


A lot of projects have per-file license specifics.


Re: code.dlang.org now supports categories and search - license information now required

2013-10-17 Thread ilya-stromberg

On Thursday, 17 October 2013 at 10:39:45 UTC, Sönke Ludwig wrote:
But one potential issue just occurred to me. What if a product 
is licensed under multiple licenses that must _all_ apply? That 
would basically be "MPL-2.0 and Apache-1.0" instead of "or". 
This is something that happens quite frequently when code is 
taken from multiple projects or when the license was changed, 
but some files were under foreign copyright.


It's impossible.
For example, GPL-2.0 and GPL-3.0 are incompatible. So, if user 
requires both GPL-2.0 AND GPL-3.0, it means that we have invalid 
license items.


So, we should provide only "OR" modifier, not "AND". And I agree 
with ponce: we should provide a per-file license specifics, it 
should solve your problem.


Re: code.dlang.org now supports categories and search - license information now required

2013-10-17 Thread Sönke Ludwig

Am 17.10.2013 13:42, schrieb ilya-stromberg:

On Thursday, 17 October 2013 at 10:39:45 UTC, Sönke Ludwig wrote:

But one potential issue just occurred to me. What if a product is
licensed under multiple licenses that must _all_ apply? That would
basically be "MPL-2.0 and Apache-1.0" instead of "or". This is
something that happens quite frequently when code is taken from
multiple projects or when the license was changed, but some files were
under foreign copyright.


It's impossible.
For example, GPL-2.0 and GPL-3.0 are incompatible. So, if user requires
both GPL-2.0 AND GPL-3.0, it means that we have invalid license items.

So, we should provide only "OR" modifier, not "AND". And I agree with
ponce: we should provide a per-file license specifics, it should solve
your problem.


If you have per-file differences, then this in fact means that both 
licenses need to be obeyed when using the package. If those licenses are 
incompatible, that's a problem of the package combining them - it's 
basically unusable then. But going a per-file way is by-far too 
detailed. It's hard enough to assure proper per-package licensing and 
keeping license comments up to date, but this will IMO just result in chaos.


Also, while GPL 2 and 3 may not be compatible, there are other licenses 
which are compatible, but one is not a superset of the other.


Re: code.dlang.org now supports categories and search - license information now required

2013-10-17 Thread ilya-stromberg

On Thursday, 17 October 2013 at 12:06:49 UTC, Sönke Ludwig wrote:
If you have per-file differences, then this in fact means that 
both licenses need to be obeyed when using the package. If 
those licenses are incompatible, that's a problem of the 
package combining them - it's basically unusable then. But 
going a per-file way is by-far too detailed. It's hard enough 
to assure proper per-package licensing and keeping license 
comments up to date, but this will IMO just result in chaos.


Also, while GPL 2 and 3 may not be compatible, there are other 
licenses which are compatible, but one is not a superset of the 
other.


OK, understand your position. May be just provide special syntax 
for this cases, for example:

"license": [{"BSL-1.0", "MIT"}]


Re: code.dlang.org now supports categories and search - license information now required

2013-10-17 Thread Andrej Mitrovic
On 10/17/13, Sönke Ludwig  wrote:
> Having a single compact name reduces the
> chances for errors

Speaking of which, if I forget to add the license to a package file is
there any way to get this information from the server? I mean like a
page saying that my package was rejected because it's missing X or Y,
rather than having to guess whether the package file is bad or the
server is just temporarily overloaded.

Personally I think it would be better if we had a "dub publish"
command, which would then error back if the server rejects the
package, rather than make this whole process automated based on
searching github (I assume this is how the dub server works now).


Re: code.dlang.org now supports categories and search - license information now required

2013-10-17 Thread Sönke Ludwig

Am 17.10.2013 14:13, schrieb ilya-stromberg:

On Thursday, 17 October 2013 at 12:06:49 UTC, Sönke Ludwig wrote:

If you have per-file differences, then this in fact means that both
licenses need to be obeyed when using the package. If those licenses
are incompatible, that's a problem of the package combining them -
it's basically unusable then. But going a per-file way is by-far too
detailed. It's hard enough to assure proper per-package licensing and
keeping license comments up to date, but this will IMO just result in
chaos.

Also, while GPL 2 and 3 may not be compatible, there are other
licenses which are compatible, but one is not a superset of the other.


OK, understand your position. May be just provide special syntax for
this cases, for example:
"license": [{"BSL-1.0", "MIT"}]


It would have to be still valid JSON. So something like

"license": {"or": [{"and": ["BSL-1.0", "MIT]}, "GPL-2.0"]}

would work. But that is hardly more practical than

"license": "BSL-1.0 and MIT or GPL-2.0"

With the advantage of not requiring operator precedence, though.


Re: code.dlang.org now supports categories and search - license information now required

2013-10-17 Thread Sönke Ludwig

Am 17.10.2013 14:25, schrieb Andrej Mitrovic:


Personally I think it would be better if we had a "dub publish"
command, which would then error back if the server rejects the
package, rather than make this whole process automated based on
searching github (I assume this is how the dub server works now).



"dub publish" sounds like something that may considerably increase the 
complexity of the command line tool, especially in the long term, and it 
also increases the coupling to the public registry, whereas now it just 
needs a very small HTTP API that can be fulfilled by any HTTP file 
server. So I'd rather want to avoid that if possible.


Re: code.dlang.org now supports categories and search - license information now required

2013-10-17 Thread Sönke Ludwig

Am 17.10.2013 14:25, schrieb Andrej Mitrovic:

On 10/17/13, Sönke Ludwig  wrote:

Having a single compact name reduces the
chances for errors


Speaking of which, if I forget to add the license to a package file is
there any way to get this information from the server? I mean like a
page saying that my package was rejected because it's missing X or Y,
rather than having to guess whether the package file is bad or the
server is just temporarily overloaded.

Personally I think it would be better if we had a "dub publish"
command, which would then error back if the server rejects the
package, rather than make this whole process automated based on
searching github (I assume this is how the dub server works now).



When you log in on the website and then go to "My packages", you'll see 
a table of all packages along with excerpts of possible errors. You can 
then click on each package to see the full list of errors. There is also 
a button to trigger a manual update after changes now, so that the usual 
uncertain wait is not necessary anymore.


Re: code.dlang.org now supports categories and search - license information now required

2013-10-17 Thread ilya-stromberg

On Thursday, 17 October 2013 at 12:27:02 UTC, Sönke Ludwig wrote:

Am 17.10.2013 14:13, schrieb ilya-stromberg:
On Thursday, 17 October 2013 at 12:06:49 UTC, Sönke Ludwig 
wrote:
If you have per-file differences, then this in fact means 
that both
licenses need to be obeyed when using the package. If those 
licenses
are incompatible, that's a problem of the package combining 
them -
it's basically unusable then. But going a per-file way is 
by-far too
detailed. It's hard enough to assure proper per-package 
licensing and
keeping license comments up to date, but this will IMO just 
result in

chaos.

Also, while GPL 2 and 3 may not be compatible, there are other
licenses which are compatible, but one is not a superset of 
the other.


OK, understand your position. May be just provide special 
syntax for

this cases, for example:
"license": [{"BSL-1.0", "MIT"}]


It would have to be still valid JSON. So something like

"license": {"or": [{"and": ["BSL-1.0", "MIT]}, "GPL-2.0"]}

would work. But that is hardly more practical than

"license": "BSL-1.0 and MIT or GPL-2.0"

With the advantage of not requiring operator precedence, though.


We can use "or" as default. So, your example:
"license": [{"and": ["BSL-1.0", "MIT]}, "GPL-2.0"]

Yes, the example
"license": "BSL-1.0 and MIT or GPL-2.0"
looks better, but what about more complex cases:
"license": "BSL-1.0 and MIT or GPL-2.0 and BSL-1.0"
What does it mean?


Re: code.dlang.org now supports categories and search - license information now required

2013-10-17 Thread Jacob Carlborg

On 2013-10-17 14:06, Sönke Ludwig wrote:


If you have per-file differences, then this in fact means that both
licenses need to be obeyed when using the package.


Not necessarily. There can be two completely separated targets, that 
don't share any code. I don't know if that's possible in Dub, but in 
theory it would be.


--
/Jacob Carlborg


Re: code.dlang.org now supports categories and search - license information now required

2013-10-17 Thread Jacob Carlborg

On 2013-10-17 14:33, Sönke Ludwig wrote:


"dub publish" sounds like something that may considerably increase the
complexity of the command line tool, especially in the long term, and it
also increases the coupling to the public registry, whereas now it just
needs a very small HTTP API that can be fulfilled by any HTTP file
server. So I'd rather want to avoid that if possible.


You could have something like this:

dub publish 

Should be much difference compare to how it works now. It would just 
trigger the server to look for that tag, instead of doing it automatically.


--
/Jacob Carlborg


Re: code.dlang.org now supports categories and search - license information now required

2013-10-17 Thread Jacob Carlborg

On 2013-10-17 11:33, Sönke Ludwig wrote:

There has been another important change that requires existing packages
to be updated: All packages must now have the fields "description" and
"license" present to be published. The license field has to be set
according to the specification [1]. All existing branches and version
tags stay unaffected by this requirement and are still available.


Perhaps add the license: Apple Public Source License. This can be useful 
for creating bindings to Apple specific libraries. Is there a 
corresponding license for Microsoft?


--
/Jacob Carlborg


Re: code.dlang.org now supports categories and search - license information now required

2013-10-17 Thread Sönke Ludwig

Am 17.10.2013 15:26, schrieb Jacob Carlborg:

On 2013-10-17 14:06, Sönke Ludwig wrote:


If you have per-file differences, then this in fact means that both
licenses need to be obeyed when using the package.


Not necessarily. There can be two completely separated targets, that
don't share any code. I don't know if that's possible in Dub, but in
theory it would be.



Not necessarily, but possibly, so it probably has to cope with it.

One possibility to handle your example would be to make different sub 
packages for the two targets.


Re: code.dlang.org now supports categories and search - license information now required

2013-10-17 Thread ilya-stromberg
On Thursday, 17 October 2013 at 13:31:06 UTC, Jacob Carlborg 
wrote:

On 2013-10-17 11:33, Sönke Ludwig wrote:
There has been another important change that requires existing 
packages
to be updated: All packages must now have the fields 
"description" and
"license" present to be published. The license field has to be 
set
according to the specification [1]. All existing branches and 
version
tags stay unaffected by this requirement and are still 
available.


Perhaps add the license: Apple Public Source License. This can 
be useful for creating bindings to Apple specific libraries. Is 
there a corresponding license for Microsoft?


Yes:
Microsoft Public License (Ms-PL)
Microsoft Reciprocal License (Ms-RL)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shared_source


Re: code.dlang.org now supports categories and search - license information now required

2013-10-17 Thread Sönke Ludwig

Am 17.10.2013 15:31, schrieb Jacob Carlborg:

On 2013-10-17 11:33, Sönke Ludwig wrote:

There has been another important change that requires existing packages
to be updated: All packages must now have the fields "description" and
"license" present to be published. The license field has to be set
according to the specification [1]. All existing branches and version
tags stay unaffected by this requirement and are still available.


Perhaps add the license: Apple Public Source License. This can be useful
for creating bindings to Apple specific libraries. Is there a
corresponding license for Microsoft?



Added APSL-2.0 (Apple Public Source License) and MS-PL (Microsoft Public 
License).


Re: code.dlang.org now supports categories and search - license information now required

2013-10-17 Thread Sönke Ludwig

Am 17.10.2013 15:28, schrieb Jacob Carlborg:

On 2013-10-17 14:33, Sönke Ludwig wrote:


"dub publish" sounds like something that may considerably increase the
complexity of the command line tool, especially in the long term, and it
also increases the coupling to the public registry, whereas now it just
needs a very small HTTP API that can be fulfilled by any HTTP file
server. So I'd rather want to avoid that if possible.


You could have something like this:

dub publish 

Should be much difference compare to how it works now. It would just
trigger the server to look for that tag, instead of doing it automatically.



Well, the other issue with that is that there is no guarantee that the 
server can fulfill the request in a timely manner. It may be busy 
getting information about other packages/tags/branches which makes it 
impossible to get direct feedback.


What about an e-mail notification, though? Seems like the most natural 
channel.


Re: code.dlang.org now supports categories and search - license information now required

2013-10-17 Thread Rory McGuire
The only license JSON that looks valid is the string. Simple bracketing
will suffice for complex licenses.
On 17 Oct 2013 16:05, "Sönke Ludwig"  wrote:

> Am 17.10.2013 15:28, schrieb Jacob Carlborg:
>
>> On 2013-10-17 14:33, Sönke Ludwig wrote:
>>
>>  "dub publish" sounds like something that may considerably increase the
>>> complexity of the command line tool, especially in the long term, and it
>>> also increases the coupling to the public registry, whereas now it just
>>> needs a very small HTTP API that can be fulfilled by any HTTP file
>>> server. So I'd rather want to avoid that if possible.
>>>
>>
>> You could have something like this:
>>
>> dub publish 
>>
>> Should be much difference compare to how it works now. It would just
>> trigger the server to look for that tag, instead of doing it
>> automatically.
>>
>>
> Well, the other issue with that is that there is no guarantee that the
> server can fulfill the request in a timely manner. It may be busy getting
> information about other packages/tags/branches which makes it impossible to
> get direct feedback.
>
> What about an e-mail notification, though? Seems like the most natural
> channel.
>


Re: code.dlang.org now supports categories and search - license information now required

2013-10-17 Thread ponce
On Thursday, 17 October 2013 at 13:26:06 UTC, Jacob Carlborg 
wrote:

On 2013-10-17 14:06, Sönke Ludwig wrote:

If you have per-file differences, then this in fact means that 
both

licenses need to be obeyed when using the package.


Not necessarily. There can be two completely separated targets, 
that don't share any code. I don't know if that's possible in 
Dub, but in theory it would be.


I have an example of such a thing, but honestly I don't think dub 
should go that much far. Just providing the superset of what 
licenses a package _might_ fall under is already useful.




Re: code.dlang.org now supports categories and search - license information now required

2013-10-17 Thread Jacob Carlborg

On 2013-10-17 15:44, Sönke Ludwig wrote:


Not necessarily, but possibly, so it probably has to cope with it.

One possibility to handle your example would be to make different sub
packages for the two targets.


What's happens then with the main/super package, in regards to licensing?

--
/Jacob Carlborg


Re: code.dlang.org now supports categories and search - license information now required

2013-10-17 Thread Jacob Carlborg

On 2013-10-17 15:53, Sönke Ludwig wrote:


Added APSL-2.0 (Apple Public Source License) and MS-PL (Microsoft Public
License).


Cool, thanks.

--
/Jacob Carlborg


Re: code.dlang.org now supports categories and search - license information now required

2013-10-17 Thread Sönke Ludwig

Am 17.10.2013 16:59, schrieb Jacob Carlborg:

On 2013-10-17 15:44, Sönke Ludwig wrote:


Not necessarily, but possibly, so it probably has to cope with it.

One possibility to handle your example would be to make different sub
packages for the two targets.


What's happens then with the main/super package, in regards to licensing?



It's independent as long as it doesn't explicitly add the submodules as 
dependencies. If it does add them, it would have to add both licenses. 
But other packages can still only reference a sub package if they want.


Re: code.dlang.org now supports categories and search - license information now required

2013-10-17 Thread Sönke Ludwig

Am 17.10.2013 17:02, schrieb Sönke Ludwig:

Am 17.10.2013 16:59, schrieb Jacob Carlborg:

On 2013-10-17 15:44, Sönke Ludwig wrote:


Not necessarily, but possibly, so it probably has to cope with it.

One possibility to handle your example would be to make different sub
packages for the two targets.


What's happens then with the main/super package, in regards to licensing?



It's independent as long as it doesn't explicitly add the submodules as
dependencies. If it does add them, it would have to add both licenses.
But other packages can still only reference a sub package if they want.


s/only reference a/just reference a single/